=== root is now known as Guest80455 [00:28] hey all [00:28] kwin shortcuts any help please [00:30] Trying to compile a wifi driver to get master mode, I'm getting this when I run make: http://paste.ubuntu.com/345619/ | And i'm looking at this page and a few others: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode#ZyDAS%20ZD1211 [00:32] Running 9.10 === patrick is now known as cl0udy [00:36] kubuntu.fr [00:36] hello, does anyone speak french? [00:39] augustin: try #kubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-fr === augustin is now known as augustin_ === augustin_ is now known as augustin__ === augustin__ is now known as doil__ === doil__ is now known as augustin_ [00:45] thank you === augustin_ is now known as doil_ [00:55] how can I find the device for my touchpad? I'm trying to configure my xorg.conf, and I went through /dev/input/* one by one and cat'ted all those, and none of them responds to the touchpad... [00:56] test [00:56] hm? === johan is now known as Guest80007 [01:04] If you upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 it will mess with Synaptics touchpads and the most easy way to fix it is to do a fresh install. If thats not your case then I have no idea. [01:20] krimoral: erm, this was a fresh install..., but your already gone, and I don't really know who I'm talking to, but yea, gonna reboot now that I added some stuff to xorg.conf manually... === seabass is now known as gnu2nix [01:28] is there any place in kubuntu in which I can disable tap to click for my synaptics touchpad? [01:30] gsynaptic might do that. apt-get install gsynaptic [01:31] agh, it tries to install a bunch of gnome stuff though [01:35] r4v3nsw0rd: You can either disable it via a terminal command once per session, or install the touchpad module for system settings [01:35] The latter isn't in the repos, but it's available from some random ppas [01:35] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=113335 [01:35] Good night guys [01:35] huh, thats... inconvenient... lol [01:35] thanks Zorael [01:36] author ppa has jaunty packages: https://launchpad.net/~mishaaq/+archive/ppa/ [01:36] https://launchpad.net/~dominik-stadler/+archive/ppa/ for karmic packages [01:36] Then it should show up in System Settings under Keyboard and Mouse [01:37] I need some help, I've been reading FAQs but couldn't find any solution. I was using Ubuntu for some time, and recently installed Kubuntu. But vim is pretty weird. I've already removed and reinstalled it... but it won't work right in Konsole. [01:37] It wont scroll the text properly and when I leave it and get back to shell all text is gone and it doesnt show the prompt =| [01:45] tpconfig is a console app that you have to be root for. read the help. Otherwise you could try ... [01:55] gsyanptics will work for you. you can install it, the run it as normal user, and it allows you to set sensitivity and disable tap click altogether :D [01:55] I just tried it to be sure (linux mint ... um, it's ubuntu based hehe) [01:57] Um, I just realized I had KDE 4.3.2 [01:57] Updating to 4.3.4 right now === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:59] Zorael: sorry, I've installed the package, noticed no difference, rebooted, and still nothing... it seems to be what I want, but I can't get it working, any ideas? [02:00] r4v3nsw0rd: Does it show up in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Touchpad? [02:02] r4v3nsw0rd: May need to run 'kbuildsycoca4' after having installed the package. === esker is now known as verga === verga is now known as blackstar [02:06] where is the kbuildsycoca4? [02:06] oh, nvmd [02:06] still not there [02:16] r4v3nsw0rd: 'kcmshell4 touchpad' should open it, then [02:16] r4v3nsw0rd: I'm using the karmic 'kcmtouchpad' package from the dominik-stadler ppa, and that works for me [02:18] r4v3nsw0rd: It should install the following files: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/345657/ [02:19] In particular you need /usr/lib/kde4/kcm_touchpad.so for the actual system settings module (the binary), and /usr/share/kde4/services/touchpad.desktop for it to register itself as an entry in system settings === augustin is now known as doil [02:32] t'es vraiment pas sympa [02:44] Meh still having konsole problems when using vim [02:44] Its pretty weird === squidy is now known as squids === murat is now known as Guest83010 [03:00] How do I turn off the laptop trackpad completely? This is make or break for me, as it is impossible to use the keyboard on this laptop with kubuntu. [03:06] My audio card is not detected! It is on windows but i lost my audio card in kubuntu, kde even prompted me to remove the drivers as they were "no longer necessary" [03:06] hello === don is now known as Guest20659 [03:12] My chip is intel, by the way [04:17] hola alguien habla español? [04:19] hola!!! [04:33] no habla [04:35] how can I minimize konversation to system tray? [04:39] islington: In the settings dialog, Go to the "general" section [04:39] there should be a checkbox at the top for the system tray [04:40] thanks JontheEchidna [04:41] no prob [04:42] anybody know where to find a good manual to write a program for rs232. [04:47] take that as a no. [05:08] Zorael: I've finally got kcmtouchpad package installed and rand dpkg -L kcmtouchpad as seen on the pastebin link, and verified that I have same results. I then ran kbuildsyscoca4 as you said may need to be done, but it still didn't work, then I used kcmshell4 touchpad, and I disabled touch and went to the settings at the bottom of tapping and made sure that one finger, two fingers, and three fingers all were referenced to none, [05:08] and clicked apply, and then tapped ok, and it closed... so the settings didn't apply. looking at the terminal, it states that "Property for 'Synaptics Gestures' not available. Skipping." ... any further ideas? =/ it seems so close too [05:11] i'm trying to disable my synaptics touchpad's tap to click setting [05:14] [05:18] yea, I think he's afk, he helped me some 3 hours ago... [05:21] [05:31] NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information. [05:48] Heya all. Anyone here is good with Wine? [05:48] I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala. I would like to know how to set up the boot parameters so that I have only the standard terminal message bootup screen, without the splash screen. Either that, or the splash screen with the bootup output below the Ubuntu logo. [05:57] hey i want to upgrade from an old version to 9.04 [05:57] how do ido this [05:58] adept [05:58] ls [05:58] ls [05:58] antonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:59] oh, sorry, i thought i was in a terminal [06:04] yay, finally, apparently having the touchpad set up in xorg conflicts with the kcmtouchpad, so after I removed the settings for the touchpad in xorg.conf and rebooted, everything is fine... thanks Zorael [06:05] how do I restore the default plasma settings in 9.10? [06:06] In Jaunty it was deleting a few files with plasma in the name and then re-logging in but I can't locate those now :p === ceineke_ is now known as sledge === darkdelusions_ is now known as darkdelusions [07:06] Is KDE 4.4 ready yet? [07:06] KDE 4.4 beta, I meant. [07:11] yup [07:11] just got brewed up [07:18] RussellAlan: how do I unblock blocked updates? [07:18] with buttons ;-) [07:19] sorry brah [07:19] RussellAlan: huh? [07:27] is there not a default newsgroup app with kubuntu? [07:49] Good morning to the chan. [08:47] hello === Raszyn_urlop_od_ is now known as Tysek === Dekans is now known as Dekans[afk] === zegenie_ is now known as zegenie [09:59] hello everyone [10:00] ive got a question [10:04] nick mustafa === subito is now known as babalu [10:12] hello? [10:15] hello!!!! [10:16] can you help me [10:16] hello every body [10:16] doubtful, but i would hear you out. [10:16] hoh can i create a video from my screen ? [10:16] there is a program in kubuntu ? [10:16] jacblac if you tell us wiat is the problem well see [10:16] after upgrading to 9.10 my driver has problems [10:17] it makes funny things at the top of every program [10:17] i tried to install envyng but i returns me a python error [10:18] simo__ use recordmydesktop [10:18] it's a package ? [10:18] it* [10:18] aye [10:18] simo__ recordmydesktop [10:19] how u get so helpful [10:20] ok im trying to install it [10:20] simo__: vlc can do that [10:20] i hav vlc but how ? [10:20] i would have to advise against VLC for this task [10:20] jacblac can you tell us more info [10:20] yep [10:20] media - open capture device [10:20] Cuddletauren: sorry :o [10:21] i got ati radeon 7500 mobility in my laptop t41. i upgraded it yesterday from 8.04 to 9.10 [10:21] in 8.04 everything were fine, after upgrade it makes stripes all over the top of every program [10:22] and ? [10:23] when i write the name of video and of audio, i chek play [10:23] he gave me a eror Your input can't be opened: [10:23] VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2://kubuntu simo vid'. Check the log for details. [10:24] simo__: Capture Mode: Desktop, and play [10:24] so i tried to install envyng Tysek, to install another driver [10:24] but i can'T install envyng [10:26] how you can save this ? [10:26] jacblac moment i serching [10:27] ok i try to be patient [10:32] jacblac i think that i did a video, how can i save it ? [10:32] huh i dunno [10:32] i don't even have proper video driver [10:33] I'n not found nothing special [10:34] hmm [10:34] Tysek: is reinstalling with a new kubuntu 9.10 an option? === petteri_ is now known as kemmuru [10:35] if you start with live cd everything is ok ? [10:35] i only got live cd 8.04 [10:35] but i could try it [10:35] i have nvidia card [10:36] try... [10:36] oh ok nvidia is way better (back then) [10:37] jacblac you have envy in repos ? [10:37] repos? [10:39] repository (synaptic, or kpackage install) [10:40] or you try install drivers from ati web page [10:40] they only have windows driver atm [10:40] ok i have to do a restart [10:40] brb [10:41] http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx [10:42] I see linux :-) [10:47] so [10:47] Tysek: there is no radeon 7500 [10:48] a ok [10:48] oh wait [10:48] found it [10:48] all other radeon products [10:49] ^ === Cuddletauren is now known as raDeon [10:50] oh wait it says i have to download it from laptop manufacturer [10:52] so Tysek, if my terminal says that my python is too new for envyng [10:53] what can i do? [10:59] Merry Christmas everybody :) [11:03] too new :-D woow [11:04] it's problem, but I don't I do not recommend downgrade [11:05] yeah but shouldn't it be compatible [11:05] hi, anybody here use kdevelop? [11:05] you have \home in other drive/partiton [11:07] if yes i thing it well be bether if you install 9.1 form cd/pendrive [11:10] hi guys [11:10] hi [11:12] someone knows, why Dolphin don`t refresh folder content automatically? when new files or folders appears in opened Dolphin folder - there are no one, until I push F5 key [11:13] slacker: i have noticed that tooo [11:13] there is some of strange here [11:13] because sometime it does [11:13] sometime no [11:13] is this bug? [11:13] mmm dunno [11:14] but it's a bit strange ya [11:14] i think it could be a bug [11:14] new kubuntu is real fine [11:14] but maybe there is some settings i dunno [11:14] :)9.10? [11:14] or 10.04? [11:14] year 9.10, i`ve installed it yesterday [11:15] on 9.10 I noticed the same thing [11:15] it happens sometimes, not always === Dekans[afk] is now known as Dekans [11:15] slacker: yeah but it lasks of some packages like mplayerthumbs ... [11:15] and some other stuff xD [11:15] but a lots better than older release [11:16] yes, 9.04 was real bad [11:16] here it was working fine ... [11:16] but network manager dont still dont work [11:16] 9.04 but 9.10 was better [11:16] here works :) [11:16] with my wi-fi spot - dont [11:17] it breaks link evry 30 sec [11:17] i`ve installed WICD - and it`s ok [11:17] here i have an linksys with wpa psk and works [11:17] My English is bad, year? [11:17] xD [11:17] i am not english too [11:18] where are you form? [11:18] italy [11:18] "ciao" :) [11:19] lol [11:19] Stiamo passando dalla Russia saluti, soprattutto Football Club Inter [11:19] lol are you russian ? [11:19] i am a inter fan lol [11:19] xD [11:20] yes, i am russian [11:20] Rubin rule! =) [11:20] there is a russina channel of course for linux [11:20] slacker privet :-D but I'm not from russia [11:20] i think you know [11:21] i won to study english and speak it good, thats why iam here [11:22] i am a bad speaker instead [11:22] better than me )) [11:30] in russia kubuntu community very poor [11:31] (little) ) [11:50] hi [11:52] Riddell: good morning :) [11:53] Riddell: I heard you're one of the main people in the kubuntu project? [11:58] hyper_ch: mm hmm [11:58] Riddell: well, the KDE SC 4.4 Beta 2 PPA works really nice but nepomuk requires Virtuoso and that's not (yet) supplied [11:59] are there plans to provide it also for the Karmic PPA? [11:59] hyper_ch: right, there's no working release currently [11:59] maybe, if they make a working release [11:59] what do you mean working release? [11:59] a version which works [12:00] someone in #kde using OpenSuse IIRC says he got Virtuoso supplied with his 4.4 beta 2 install [12:00] so I don't know what exactely you're refering to with a "working" release [12:03] they're using an old version of virtuoso [12:06] So, er. In the Karmic version of KDE, the Session Manager systems setting allows you to specify a "manually saved" session. How does one manually save said session? [12:11] ah, nevermind. It appears as a new entry in the kickoff menu. ^_^ [12:12] Riddell: ah ok... well, I just miss my indexing capabilities now :( [12:24] Riddell: or is there a way to revert nepomuk back to sesame? [12:24] what's the link to the kde ppa? [12:24] kde sc 4.4 beta 2 ppa? [12:25] dagon2: [12:26] yeah [12:26] Kage: you online? [12:26] lol [12:26] dagon2: either use my small generator: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch or visit the kubuntu homepage (latest news) http://www.kubuntu.org [12:26] just saw the topic :D [12:26] nobody ever reads the topic :) [12:27] One should read more often :P [12:27] but look at my repogen tool :) [12:32] hyper_ch: that's one sweet thing :D Loved the generator [12:32] dagon2: :) [12:33] so it's not too complicated to use then? [12:33] not at all :D [12:33] well, i regurarly check the stats and where people come from [12:34] and quite often I read "I have now those three boxes but what should I do with them" [12:34] hyper_ch: Liked the generator too [12:34] xD [12:34] I'll save that link and tell my buddies :) [12:34] :) [12:34] What the heck, I might as well blog about it [12:34] <||arifaX> how can I Alt+Shift+F12 (disable composting) do by command line?? [12:34] yey :) [12:35] btw, you saw that there's also one for debian [12:35] (although I don't manage the added repos there and use debian only as server so I don't care much for the packages there) === suvi_ is now known as k === k is now known as Guest89008 === Guest89008 is now known as suvi_ [12:38] dagon2: my blog is also fun - if you know german :) [12:41] supersub: hey :) [12:41] supersub: BTW... my service charge is... lets see.... $460... but Ill give you a discount... $415 :) [12:43] hyper_ch: I do know german ;) [12:43] dagon2: hehehe :) well, in case I don't know a language then I at least know how to use google translage :) [12:44] hyper_ch: German humor doesn't translate well [12:44] :) [12:45] ubuntulady.wordpress.com sends me everyday 5-10 people onto my repogen tool === suvi_ is now known as sunenva [12:49] how do u assign custom hotkeys to a script? [12:50] what kind of script? [12:50] bash [12:50] I don't think you can [12:51] oh [12:51] damn then [12:51] you can assign custom hotkeys to konsole I'd think [12:51] hows that done? [12:52] Speaking of konsole, I need some help [12:52] It just wont work with vim [12:53] Vim acts weird, I get to insert/normal mode but I cannot edit the text. And when I leave vim my konsole is all black. [12:54] heOyeA: right-click into the window and select edit profile and then find out yourself :) [12:56] shaamanime: konsole/vim? [12:57] hyper_ch: Yes [12:57] shaamanime: not sure how oyu mean that but check the edit profile and the different options there [12:58] <||arifaX> Answered my question myself: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19956&sid=13dbdff1a4e196b7ae3b9199db64cb29&start=10 [12:58] ||arifaX: can you also answer mine? [12:58] hyper_ch: If I enter/leave vim, konsole gets black. No text in it... just the prompt. I can do stuff but I can't see anything, it also doesnt appear if I try to select the text. [12:59] shaamanime: no clue [12:59] don't use vim then :) [12:59] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: what was it [13:00] ||arifaX: I installed the KDE SC 4.4 Beta 2 PPA packages and now upon every reboot my bottom bar is automagically changed to that black oxygen one... that means that time and date will not be displayed... why is that so? [13:01] also, on KDE 4.3.4, when I have an external monitor attached, and just opened the monitor settings, it auto-adjusted to the external monitor size on my netbook. Now I have to manually select the resoltuion [13:03] and why does KDE still not have a "take-over-the-world button"? [13:03] such a button would make my life much easier :) [13:05] hyper_ch: Fixed it? Just edited my .vimrc and removed colums/lines numbers (it was configured for gnome) [13:05] and on my desktop I have the actual show folder (-> dektop) widget [13:05] because on my desktop I want to have stuff displayed that's on my desktop [13:05] but whenever I move with the mouse on folder I get that annyoing preview popup [13:05] how to stop that? [13:05] shaamanime: great :) [13:11] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: because its beta :) [13:11] ||arifaX: and what about the desktop folder preview annoyance? [13:11] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: monitor settings do also not work fine here for me on karmic. don't use a graphical interface use xrandr on command line that works like a charm [13:12] ||arifaX: in 4.3.4 I added a link to the Display settings and when I attached an external monitor I just had to open it and it auto-adjusted the resolution [13:12] good day leonie_ [13:13] good day jbicha [13:14] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: I think it relies on xorg.conf. If not present or not set up with defaults it uses maybe something of /etc/X11/Xsession.d/xxx [13:14] I think leonie has some issues with the server [13:14] ||arifaX: no clue... I was just happy to only be required to klick the display link and let it do its magic [13:14] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: I also wonder why such things work perfectly in gnome but not in kde... [13:15] gnome is evil [13:15] :( [13:15] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: I think sometimes "they" just write a front end and forget the details. - see knetworkmanager and see networkmanager with gnome - ever tried to do openvpn with knetworkmanager in 9.10 ? its a shame [13:16] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: but its free so ... [13:16] ||arifaX: no, never tried it [13:16] damn, I'm so not used anymore to the double-click on windows [13:17] <||arifaX> hyper_ch: double click on win can also be changed to single click. that is not a good argument for switching to linux [13:18] it's not my computer [13:20] but I'm still surprised how well performant KDE 4.4 is on my netbook :) [13:21] Sysinfo for 'eubi': Linux 2.6.31-17-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.3.85 (KDE 4.3.85 (KDE 4.4 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Atom CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz at 1667 MHz (3324 bogomips), HD: 69/144GB, RAM: 1906/2005MB, 200 proc's, 3.43h up [13:21] I think that I'm gonna run Kubuntu on my netbook [13:22] Are you running the remix or the usual? [13:23] dagon2: didn't like remix... runing the usual [13:24] I think I'll try that then [13:24] :> [13:24] my stupid aspire one won't charge my battery though :/ [13:25] :) [13:26] and of course the warranty is not valid anymore [13:26] that's typical for me, the bad luck.. [13:26] But Kubuntu Karmic runs like a charm though, that's a treat :P [13:27] so it does [13:28] it does [13:31] Just to remind you guys, Plasma Netbook Interface is still in Technical Preview, it misses few functions :P [13:33] Quintasan: I don't see a real point in that interface [13:33] hyper_ch: why not? [13:34] i don't see any benefit over default kde [14:01] hello guys [14:01] where is the sleep option [14:01] I get shutdown restart and hibernate.... I neither get sleep nor suspend to RAM [14:04] how to get the source of any package using apt? [14:04] !sleep [14:04] !mount [14:04] Partitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter [14:05] !DiskMounter [14:05] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [14:13] apparle: apt-get source package === crissi_ is now known as CrissiD [14:18] how do I set firefox as the default browser in Kubuntu? [14:20] jbicha: System Settings -> Default applications -> Web browser [14:20] how do u get this desktop widget to fullscreen again? http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3219/snapshot1s.png [14:21] Quintasan: that doesn't work, links in Pidgin for instance still open in Konqueror [14:21] jbicha: AFAIK Pidgin is GTK+ app and you need to set that in Pidgin [14:21] Bonster: what do you mean by full screen? [14:22] Bonster: you mean you want your wallpaper to be fullscreen? [14:22] Quintasan, well it only 1/2 the size [14:22] anyone with latest chromium (4.0.280.0 - 35217 ) ? I am seeing the browser window vanish on several websites (w.g. lifehacker.com) - but OS process list shows chromium as sleeping [14:22] Quintasan, it use to be filled [14:23] Bonster: by any chance, did you update to 4.4? [14:23] Quintasan, no still on 4.3 [14:23] * hyper_ch heard that Chromium was developped to enable Google to take over the world [14:23] Bonster: good, don't do it, did you try setting other wallpaper as filled and then changing back? [14:23] I cannot see the sleep option plz help [14:24] Quintasan, dont think is the wallpaper, is the widget is 1/2 the size [14:25] Bonster: the wallpaper isn't a widget [14:25] Quintasan, didnt said it was [14:25] Bonster: I can't quite understand what are you trying to do now [14:26] Quintasan, trying to make the widget to fill the screen [14:26] Quintasan, right now is only 1/2 [14:26] ffs, looks like a problem with configuration [14:28] Bonster: ~/.kde/share/config/ <-- look trough plasma* files and search for 840x525 or something that looks like half of your screen :P [14:29] Bonster: or you can try moving ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* somewhere else and restart plasma-desktop, but this will reset settings to defaults [14:29] Quintasan, yea i can killx and it goes back to normal, but was just wondering how to reset [14:29] manually [14:30] Bonster: kquitapp plasma-destkop [14:31] Quintasan, that did nothing [14:31] Bonster: you mean killing plasma or editing the files? [14:33] Quintasan, killing [14:33] Bonster: you will need to edit the files or move them first, killing plasma won't alter configuration [14:34] well since i can killx and it resets, so the configurations is not the problem [14:36] Hey all [14:36] BluesKaj: \o [14:36] hi Quintasan [14:40] hey all.... [14:40] merry christmas === ubuntu is now known as engine [14:42] if amarok is running, all other sound app can't play any audio, need to stop/close amarok to get sound working.. any idea why? === matthew is now known as mattdinky [15:02] hi [15:10] i need some advice. ive just installed kde 4.3.85 to ubuntu karmic, but when i log in to it after boot, only a console opens .. i can run plasma-desktop from that, but the windows have no heading [15:10] does anyone know the reason of this ? === raDeon is now known as Cuddletauren [15:12] hm ? [15:14] Edg_, have done an apt upgrade command today ? [15:14] of course [15:15] do you have any packages being held back ? [15:15] none [15:16] well, I guess you'll have to wait for someone who had the same problem and was able o fix it [15:17] yeah ;-( === jesse_ is now known as jesse2 [15:41] Hello guys sup?? [15:43] zaphira13: ? [15:48] is the "xorg-driver-fglrx" that is listed in the package manager different than what would be installed using the envy-ng installer? [15:50] I have a question, Which is better? And why? Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10? And about Kubuntu 9.04 or 910???? [15:53] zaphira13: I would go with Ubuntu 9.10. It will require less updates than 9.04. Ubuntu vs Kubuntu is a matter of taste, but I would start with Ubuntu because it is more widely used. They only differ in the desktop [15:56] Yeah i noticed that, they run the same aplications [16:03] zaphira13: no, the applications are different; most of the applications used in kubuntu are written using Qt whereas the ones used in ubuntu are written using Gtk [16:03] sweet. kubuntu baseball cap came in yesterday just in time for Christmas [16:05] How can you make these apps? In GTK and Qt? [16:08] Can someone assist me? I am getting DHCP from gateway but cannot ping the gateway or surf the net [16:10] How can i install programs in Kubuntu? I was using Synaptic in Ubuntu [16:11] zaphira13: you can use command line sudo apt-get install {program name} [16:11] any other way? [16:11] zaphira13: It has something called "KPackageKit" which serves the same function... I used it to install Synaptic :) Like you, I am more familiar and comfortable with this [16:11]