BUGabundo | any one knows what this means | 00:31 |
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BUGabundo | ERROR: ioctl() [No such file or directory][2] | 00:31 |
bjsnider | BUGabundo, notice anything strange about chromium-browser today? | 00:38 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: need more info than that | 00:38 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: also, we've fixed the codec setup issue, so if you have time, we can try the powerdown fixes for your HDA controller | 00:38 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: not tonight | 00:40 |
BUGabundo | I just got into bed | 00:40 |
BUGabundo | just seeing what's up , and sleep in a bit | 00:40 |
BUGabundo | ping me tomorrow | 00:40 |
BUGabundo | if you are sitting in front of a pc | 00:40 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: like? | 00:40 |
bjsnider | browser window assuming the full length of the webpage instead of creating a scrollbar | 00:41 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: well I only opened gmail and vodafone.pt | 00:43 |
BUGabundo | didn't notice anyrhing weird in neither | 00:43 |
BUGabundo | any site you want me to test all my browsers? | 00:43 |
BUGabundo | about my prob, I'm getting that while using n2n | 00:44 |
BUGabundo | it was working fine all week | 00:44 |
BUGabundo | up until now | 00:44 |
BUGabundo | nothing in my logs | 00:44 |
BUGabundo | only on cli, when started | 00:44 |
BUGabundo | it simply dies | 00:45 |
bjsnider | crimsun, can you run jack and pulse at the same time? | 00:45 |
crimsun | you can do anything you want | 00:45 |
crimsun | we only have jack1 in Ubuntu, however, which does not have the dbus handoff work | 00:46 |
bjsnider | which would be using which? | 00:46 |
crimsun | -EPARSE | 00:46 |
crimsun | jack1 and pulse will race on hw:, if that's what you're asking | 00:47 |
bjsnider | what does that mean "race on hw"? | 00:47 |
crimsun | if jackd grabs hw:, then it will have exclusive access to the sound devices, and pulseaudio will lose the race thus giving you a dummy/null sink/source | 00:47 |
crimsun | if pulseaudio grabs hw:, then it will have exclusive access to the sound devices, and jackd will lose the race and complain bitterly | 00:48 |
bjsnider | so pulse could not act as a middle-man for jack and vice versa | 00:48 |
crimsun | neither can | 00:48 |
crimsun | if anything, dbus is the proposed "middle man" | 00:48 |
bjsnider | well, there's a ppa whre pulseaudio is patched to, i dunno use jack or whatever. | 00:48 |
crimsun | the issue upstream is that jack has no way of saying "I'm done" | 00:49 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: sound is cliping | 00:49 |
BUGabundo | and flanging | 00:49 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: that's great, go to sleep and ping me in the morning. | 00:49 |
BUGabundo | lolol | 00:49 |
BUGabundo | let me check paman | 00:50 |
BUGabundo | to see if it is not above 100% | 00:50 |
crimsun | bjsnider: "patched to"? Meaning pulse is built with jack support? | 00:50 |
BUGabundo | 88% actually | 00:50 |
crimsun | bjsnider: that doesn't resolve the unerlying race that I described | 00:51 |
bjsnider | crimsun, it would seems so. but what does jack support eve mean? | 00:51 |
crimsun | bjsnider: it means pulse can use jack as a sink and as a source | 00:52 |
bjsnider | https://launchpad.net/~motin/+archive/until-jack-is-included-in-main | 00:52 |
crimsun | yes, I've corresponded with him | 00:53 |
crimsun | his first attempts at versioning were abysmal | 00:53 |
bjsnider | somebody's bugging me to add jack support the libxine | 00:53 |
bjsnider | can't do it | 00:53 |
crimsun | huh? | 00:54 |
crimsun | just look at the original Debian source package | 00:54 |
bjsnider | it's awfully, awfully difficult | 00:55 |
crimsun | what are you talking about? | 00:55 |
bjsnider | jack is going to be in main i think | 00:55 |
bjsnider | nothing. just joking around | 00:55 |
crimsun | jack *will* be in main as soon people get off their arses and finish the documentation (MIR) | 00:56 |
bjsnider | what is portaudio? | 00:58 |
crimsun | another API | 00:59 |
bjsnider | why can't we just have ONE audio system that's flexible enough that it does everything? | 00:59 |
crimsun | christ, that's what we're trying to do | 01:00 |
BUGabundo | Dec 24 00:35:48 BluBUG pulseaudio[1481]: ratelimit.c: 105 events suppressed | 01:00 |
BUGabundo | sigh | 01:00 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: that doesn't mean a thing | 01:00 |
BUGabundo | means a 20MBs log :) | 01:01 |
crimsun | people look at ratelimit and go "oh no" | 01:01 |
BUGabundo | its writing ervery 10 sec | 01:01 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: seriously, it very probably means your sound hw is broken, and we're unable to work around it in the driver | 01:01 |
BUGabundo | eheh | 01:01 |
BUGabundo | we know its broken | 01:01 |
BUGabundo | you proved it yesterday | 01:01 |
bjsnider | so's his graphics card | 01:01 |
crimsun | no, yesterday was a bug | 01:02 |
crimsun | takashi and I fixed it early this morning | 01:02 |
SoftwareExplorer | crisum:I'm getting ready to report a Lucid bug. Every time an application starts to play a sound or stops playing a sound there is a pop/click. Does you know if I should report this as a bug for the pulseaudio package or the linux package? | 01:02 |
crimsun | SoftwareExplorer: don't bother, I already know about powerdown issues. | 01:02 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: not sure gpu is broken... from what I've been reading, I think savat was wrong. this card is proposely cripped by manufatured | 01:03 |
crimsun | SoftwareExplorer: technically it's a linux issue, but the symptom is *caused* by an addition to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, which is owned by the alsa-driver source package. | 01:03 |
bjsnider | what? | 01:03 |
bjsnider | the manufacturer cannopt cripple the purevideo hardware | 01:03 |
bjsnider | they could cripple the windows driver | 01:03 |
bjsnider | but the hardware would not be crippled | 01:04 |
crimsun | oh but the OEM can do anything | 01:04 |
crimsun | there's this thing called a "bios" | 01:04 |
bjsnider | crimsun, not without opening the case and hacking it with a screwdriver | 01:04 |
crimsun | (and don't tell me efi is any better) | 01:04 |
SoftwareExplorer | crimsun: Ok, thanks. | 01:04 |
crimsun | bjsnider: it doesn't have to have anything to do with physically crippling it | 01:04 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: not like that | 01:05 |
bjsnider | they can cripple the windblows driver and that's all. the purevideo hardware cannot be disabled in the bios | 01:05 |
BUGabundo | basicly this model is a entrance model | 01:05 |
BUGabundo | so they used less pipes | 01:05 |
BUGabundo | 16 instead of regular 32 | 01:05 |
bjsnider | pipes? | 01:05 |
BUGabundo | so it "can't" do vdpay | 01:05 |
bjsnider | did you ask nvidia about this? | 01:05 |
crimsun | bjsnider: dude, you can do a *lot* in bios. you can intercept all sorts of junk. | 01:05 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: its words from nvidia dev on their forum | 01:06 |
BUGabundo | about the g85 vs g90 GPU core | 01:06 |
bjsnider | i'd like to see that post | 01:06 |
BUGabundo | easy | 01:06 |
bjsnider | take that craptop back and get a better one | 01:06 |
bjsnider | you got robbed | 01:06 |
BUGabundo | google nvidia forum 8400 vdpau | 01:06 |
BUGabundo | its on board | 01:06 |
crimsun | SoftwareExplorer: which codec do you have? head -6 /proc/asound/card*/codec* | 01:07 |
bjsnider | if that happened then the windows purevideo driver would also not work | 01:07 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: no idea | 01:08 |
BUGabundo | maybe it doesn't | 01:08 |
BUGabundo | I never put win in this laptop | 01:08 |
bjsnider | BUGabundo, who manufactured that thing? which oem? | 01:09 |
BUGabundo | asustek | 01:09 |
BUGabundo | model S27S | 01:09 |
BUGabundo | *S37S | 01:09 |
SoftwareExplorer | crimsun: "Conexant CX20549 (Venice)" , when I ran the command it did pop/click | 01:09 |
bjsnider | asus? | 01:09 |
i_is_broke | what the heck is byobu? | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: not quite... it's the factory that used to assemble Asus laptop | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | now asus has a new factory | 01:10 |
crimsun | SoftwareExplorer: ok, thanks. I should have fixes for that in a few days | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | !google byobu | 01:10 |
SoftwareExplorer | crimsun: Thanks for working on Ubuntu :) | 01:11 |
bjsnider | SoftwareExplorer, that's very different from the messages he usually sees in here | 01:12 |
jherraez | hey there, im trying the lucid alpha 1 on a virtual machine, and it demands login/pw , which i have no idea what it could be... | 01:52 |
Tscheesy | hm.. on the ARM from schratch it was ubuntu:ubuntu | 01:55 |
jherraez | its not that, guess i should have download the alpha instead of the daily build | 01:57 |
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Tscheesy | can't help sry | 01:59 |
arand | jherraez: is this the livecd asking? | 02:21 |
jherraez | booted from the daily build , selected try without changes, eventually gdm appeared asking for a login, throw typical "ubuntu" and "guest" at it, no luck | 02:23 |
arand | jherraez: default login is ubuntu with no password, I think | 02:25 |
jherraez | nope, when i type ubuntu it will play the usual failure song, won't even ask for a pw | 02:26 |
jherraez | thx anyway, im goin to sleep now, ill just wait for alpha 2 to try again | 02:28 |
arand | That to me indicates some form of mess-up.. (redownload?/wait for next daily build?) dunno though. | 02:28 |
SoftwareExplorer | I'm trying to get a backtrace for an xserver bug. The machine I'm using has a nvidia card, and I haven't installed the proprietary driver. What debug symbol packages should I install? I have already added the ddebs repository(s) | 05:02 |
bjsnider | SoftwareExplorer, what driver are you using then? | 05:02 |
RAOF | SoftwareExplorer: libc6, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-video-(nv,vesa - depending on your driver), various xserver-xorg-input-* packages... | 05:03 |
SoftwareExplorer | I don't know a lot about how the xserver works, how would I find out what driver? | 05:03 |
RAOF | grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 05:03 |
bjsnider | you're probably using the awesome nv driver then | 05:03 |
SoftwareExplorer | it lists fb, nv and vesa | 05:04 |
SoftwareExplorer | RAOF: so when you say, for example, libc6 I should add "-dbgsym" to the end of it? | 05:05 |
RAOF | Yup. | 05:06 |
RAOF | You'd add -dbgsym to all those package names. | 05:06 |
SoftwareExplorer | RAOF: Ok, got. Thanks. I'll see what I can get | 05:06 |
SoftwareExplorer | RAOF: Sorry, I meant "Ok, got it." (oops) | 05:07 |
RAOF | X's backtrace itself can help in working out what dbgsym packages you need - ie: if nv_drv.so appears in the backtrace, you'll need the dbgsym package for the package containing nv_drv.so, which you can find using "dpkg -S nv_drv.so". | 05:07 |
SoftwareExplorer | RAOF: Wow, thanks, that will help a lot. I was kind of wondering if I could find out what package a file belonged to. | 05:08 |
RAOF | dpkg -S is awesomely useful, yes. If you're looking for "what package contains this file that I don't have", then apt-file is what you're after. | 05:09 |
SoftwareExplorer | GDB says "Reading symbols from /usr/bin/Xorg...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/Xorg...(no debugging symbols found)...done." is that bad? dpkg -S Xorg has the line "xserver-xorg-core-dbgsym: /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/Xorg" which I have installed. So wouldn't I have the package that has what I need already installed? | 05:17 |
RAOF | That's OK; it's read debugging symbols for Xorg, and it can't find debugging symbols for the debugging symbols of Xorg. | 05:19 |
SoftwareExplorer | RAOF: Thanks :) | 05:22 |
billybigrigger | anyone alive? | 05:39 |
billybigrigger | i did an update-manager -d upgrade to lucid today and upon reboot, i'm stuck at a grub rescue screen with grub rescue> | 05:39 |
billybigrigger | something about the symbol `grub_gettext` not found | 05:39 |
billybigrigger | any clues? | 05:39 |
billybigrigger | there is one forum post i've dug up and it's a pretty new thread, only 3 posts, and the solution doesn't work for me | 05:40 |
billybigrigger | what is the latest vmlinuz image? maybe i can manually boot it, but have no way of telling what kernel i have | 05:40 |
i_is_broke | 2.6.31-17 is what i got. | 05:44 |
billybigrigger | whats the standard 64bit kernel? | 05:45 |
billybigrigger | -686 | 05:45 |
billybigrigger | vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-686 file not found | 05:45 |
billybigrigger | :( | 05:45 |
i_is_broke | wait wrong grub..sorry hold on a sec. | 05:47 |
i_is_broke | 2.6.32-9 | 05:47 |
billybigrigger | i_is_broke: you there? | 05:50 |
i_is_broke | yeah | 05:50 |
billybigrigger | thought i lost my connection | 05:51 |
i_is_broke | na your still here..lol | 05:51 |
billybigrigger | hmm | 05:53 |
billybigrigger | 2.6.32-9 doesn't exist either | 05:53 |
billybigrigger | sigh | 05:53 |
billybigrigger | this sucks | 05:54 |
i_is_broke | when did you last update? | 05:59 |
i_is_broke | i have -5 threw -9 | 06:00 |
i_is_broke | might try with generic-pae on it. | 06:01 |
billybigrigger | 00000000000000000000 | 06:01 |
billybigrigger | ...............................................................................3 | 06:01 |
billybigrigger | 0 | 06:01 |
billybigrigger | 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | 06:01 |
billybigrigger | 0. | 06:01 |
i_is_broke | hmmm? | 06:01 |
billybigrigger | oh my, sorry, was trying to type over the laptop on my other machine | 06:01 |
i_is_broke | lol np. | 06:02 |
billybigrigger | ahh ls /boot works from rescue promt :P | 06:02 |
billybigrigger | its 32-9-generic | 06:02 |
billybigrigger | not 686 like i was trying | 06:02 |
i_is_broke | figured it was something simple...just didnt know which one it was. | 06:03 |
billybigrigger | ok now i'm at a busy box shell | 06:07 |
billybigrigger | telling me to try root = /dev/sda1 | 06:07 |
i_is_broke | well thats a step closer..lol | 06:07 |
billybigrigger | not hda1 | 06:07 |
billybigrigger | never used a busy box shell | 06:08 |
billybigrigger | i don't see any commands to set root boot device though | 06:08 |
billybigrigger | ls | 06:08 |
crimsun | set root foo, e.g., set root (hd0,1) | 06:09 |
crimsun | we deprecated -686 many releases ago | 06:09 |
billybigrigger | crimsun: just going of the only solution i've found for my problem | 06:11 |
billybigrigger | kernel in question was 2.6.31-1-686 so....yeah | 06:11 |
crimsun | ...from Debian? | 06:12 |
billybigrigger | http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361013 | 06:13 |
billybigrigger | now i'm getting target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init | 06:13 |
crimsun | -1- is very old | 06:13 |
billybigrigger | no init found try passing init= bootarg | 06:13 |
billybigrigger | i'm using 2.6.32-9-generic | 06:13 |
crimsun | you really should use an alternate installer in rescue mode | 06:14 |
billybigrigger | i don't have an install disk, this was from a karmic upgrade | 06:14 |
crimsun | you don't have a live image, either? | 06:15 |
crimsun | (you're seriously running a development version with no alternate installer or desktop installer?) | 06:15 |
billybigrigger | yup | 06:16 |
billybigrigger | jaunty+1 was beautiful for me, not any problems like this ever | 06:17 |
crimsun | just saying that it's foolhardy not to have a rescue mode available | 06:17 |
crimsun | it sounds like you haven't gotten a real / yet | 06:18 |
billybigrigger | i can ls in busy box and it show's my / | 06:19 |
crimsun | do you have /sbin/init ? | 06:21 |
billybigrigger | no | 06:21 |
crimsun | do you have /sbin on a separate partition? | 06:21 |
billybigrigger | no | 06:21 |
crimsun | then it isn't your real / | 06:21 |
billybigrigger | have a good suggestion for a live usb? | 06:22 |
billybigrigger | slax usb download link is broken | 06:22 |
crimsun | anything that boots and ships /usr/sbin/chroot is a good candidate | 06:23 |
crimsun | were you current with updates? | 06:23 |
billybigrigger | yeah just updated karmic, then did a update-manager -d upgrade to lucid | 06:25 |
crimsun | mountall 2.2 or 2.3? | 06:26 |
billybigrigger | your speaking chinese | 06:26 |
billybigrigger | crimsun: what is mountall? 2.2 or 2.3? | 06:31 |
i_is_broke | i just updated that.. | 06:31 |
i_is_broke | we just went in to 2.3. | 06:32 |
i_is_broke | i have thought about and think i will from now on out im going to save a list of all the updates that i get, on my production box so i can go back and see incase of things like this. | 06:33 |
crimsun | apt and dpkg both have logs in /var/log/ | 06:34 |
i_is_broke | crimsun yeah but if you cant get into them...they wont do you any good, thats why i said i was going to put them on my production box so i can have them for fubar moments. | 06:43 |
billybigrigger | hmm this sucks | 06:44 |
billybigrigger | so much for passing out to heroes tonight :P | 06:44 |
crimsun | i_is_broke: there should not be a reason you can't get to them provided you always keep a method for chrooting into the install | 06:46 |
crimsun | i.e., an alternate installer disc/image | 06:46 |
i_is_broke | ah thats true, i guess i should make one as well...the only thing i got right now is karmics install disk.. | 06:47 |
crimsun | you could also configure rsyslog to log remotely, too | 06:47 |
i_is_broke | cant i just copy them threw ssh? | 06:50 |
i_is_broke | crimsun you got to remember im still learning this stuff... | 06:51 |
crimsun | i_is_broke: sure, there are many roads to Rome | 06:52 |
i_is_broke | crimsun that is what i like about linux theres more then one way to do something or run something unlike windows where you have to do everything there way or it borks everything. | 06:53 |
i_is_broke | that and the fact that everytime a new windows version is release you almost have to buy a new computer to get it to run. | 06:55 |
i_is_broke | linux im pressed me when i had my old 2x2x6 burner and windows wouldnt run it any more, but i installed linux and it worked like a charm..slow as hell but still worked. | 06:56 |
i_is_broke | what the hey ....cant the find something else to spam..that one is getting old. | 07:10 |
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knittl | bjsnider: merry christmas! are you there? :) | 09:45 |
nanomad | is anyone having issues with grub? update-grub locks up here | 09:48 |
nanomad | nvm, it worked. It just took a LOT of time, lol | 09:50 |
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CosmiChaos | Hey, got strange screen-output for Usplash and TTYs, guess its related to xorg-nv, because nvidia-glx is installed and correctly working for desktop mode | 11:47 |
CosmiChaos | any idea? | 11:47 |
soee | hi | 11:50 |
CosmiChaos | hey its not very useful to have no CONSOLE available because graphic-output is crippled | 11:51 |
CosmiChaos | hello anyone of 146? | 11:51 |
CosmiChaos | gimp-plugin-registry depends on libcv1, libcvaux1 and libhighgui1 but new sivp 0.5.0-1ubuntu3 upgraded packages to libcv4, libcvaux4 and libhighgui4 | 11:59 |
CosmiChaos | hey according to synaptic search mode the new section list with one section per source is really nice, great work | 12:17 |
CosmiChaos | now when we install a specific package | 12:18 |
CosmiChaos | can you add a text in the properties, from which source it comes from, that would be really helpful | 12:18 |
CosmiChaos | xD it already is | 12:19 |
maxb | Hi, is anyone else experiencing graphics glitching and occasional blank screens requiring a reboot, using Intel graphics hardware in Lucid? | 12:33 |
CosmiChaos | maxb, no but lots a graphic glitches in TTY or during boot and shutdown with Nvidia, nobody here cares | 12:41 |
yofel | maxb: me after resuming from suspend | 13:05 |
maxb | yofel: bug 492392 is where I've been making notes | 13:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 492392 in linux "[lucid, intel] After suspend, flickering screen and then blank screen." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/492392 | 13:07 |
maxb | What's your hardware? | 13:07 |
maxb | Mine is an Aspire One | 13:07 |
yofel | 945GME | 13:07 |
yofel | (eeePC 1000H) | 13:07 |
yofel | yep, that sounds like the bug | 13:08 |
maxb | hmm... well at least it affects enough common hardware that it ought to get some attention :-) | 13:09 |
maxb | hmm... seems I've developed a gdm-fails-to-start race condition too | 13:10 |
yofel | yeah, that GPU was pretty much the default for netbooks for a while | 13:11 |
maxb | Well... that was novel. Having persuaded GDM to start at all, I had to log in three times before it managed it without crashing | 13:13 |
BluesKaj | Hey all | 14:35 |
om26er | i unplugged the charger but still the battery status show full | 14:59 |
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billybigrigger | anyone alive? | 16:30 |
billybigrigger | anyone had problems with grub booting to rescue mode after an upgrade to lucid? | 16:31 |
billybigrigger | i'm stuck at the rescue prompt giving me about symbol grub_gettext not found | 16:31 |
billybigrigger | crimsun: ping | 16:35 |
yofel | I don't have that but I'm certain a few people reported the same | 16:35 |
yofel | *error | 16:35 |
billybigrigger | oh yeah? | 16:35 |
billybigrigger | i found 1 post on the forums, and the solution doesn't work for me | 16:35 |
billybigrigger | yofel: i can get to a busybox shell...but with the error target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init | 16:39 |
billybigrigger | i think it was crimsun told me i haven't picked the right / | 16:39 |
billybigrigger | tried booting (hd0,1) and root = /dev/sda1 | 16:39 |
yofel | that would explain a few things | 16:39 |
billybigrigger | http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361013 | 16:40 |
billybigrigger | last post | 16:40 |
billybigrigger | i get to a busybox shell with that, changing my device names and kernel of course | 16:40 |
billybigrigger | but i'm not sure if booting a supergrub disk will tell me how grub see's my disks | 16:40 |
yofel | hm... do you have /boot seperate or on / ? | 16:42 |
billybigrigger | yofel: haha this sounds amatuer but i don't know | 16:43 |
billybigrigger | booting SGD now to peak around | 16:43 |
billybigrigger | ahh poop i'm going to need to chroot | 16:43 |
yofel | well, I'm still trying to figure out what information grub2 needs to boot the os... | 16:44 |
billybigrigger | hmm | 16:45 |
billybigrigger | found out my / is on sdc1 | 16:45 |
billybigrigger | and no separate /boot | 16:45 |
billybigrigger | and assuming i still remember grub2's naming convention, that should be 2,0 no? | 16:46 |
yofel | hm that would be 'set root=(hd2,1)' then | 16:46 |
billybigrigger | i know between grub and grub2 they named hdd's different | 16:46 |
yofel | no, 2,0 was grub-legacy | 16:46 |
billybigrigger | ahh | 16:46 |
billybigrigger | ok | 16:46 |
yofel | VERY annoying | 16:46 |
billybigrigger | hmm | 16:47 |
billybigrigger | will give that a go | 16:47 |
yofel | at least if I understand this correct now... | 16:47 |
billybigrigger | understand what | 16:48 |
yofel | the numbering | 16:48 |
billybigrigger | hmmm | 16:48 |
yofel | yep, sdc1 is 2,1, checked the doc | 16:49 |
billybigrigger | linux16 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-9-generic root=/dev/sdc1 ro | 16:49 |
billybigrigger | file not found | 16:49 |
billybigrigger | where as before, using (hd0,1) and /dev/sda1 it found it | 16:49 |
billybigrigger | and booted | 16:49 |
yofel | o.O | 16:49 |
billybigrigger | i have 2 other hard drives, sda and sdb, but root is on sdc | 16:49 |
billybigrigger | maybe grub isn't seeing those disks and is naming sdc as sda | 16:50 |
billybigrigger | because i can boot my 2.6.32-9-generic kernel using set root hd0,1 and /dev/sda1 | 16:50 |
yofel | maybe the device.map isn't right? | 16:50 |
yofel | hm, and root hd2,1 and /dev/sdc1 ? | 16:51 |
billybigrigger | ahhh | 16:51 |
yofel | err... | 16:51 |
billybigrigger | grub rescue prompt has an ls | 16:51 |
yofel | hd0,1 and /dev/sdc1 | 16:51 |
billybigrigger | after setting rood to hd2,1 and running ls | 16:51 |
billybigrigger | i can see i'm not on my / disk | 16:51 |
yofel | hehe, good to know... | 16:52 |
billybigrigger | hmm | 16:52 |
billybigrigger | it has to be hd0 | 16:53 |
billybigrigger | as i can see hd0 hd0,1 hd0,6 hd0,5 | 16:53 |
billybigrigger | which would be my / /home and swap i assume | 16:53 |
billybigrigger | it has to be 0,1 | 16:53 |
yofel | can you check your device.map somehow? | 16:55 |
billybigrigger | hmm | 16:56 |
billybigrigger | got to x in low graphics mode | 16:56 |
bjsnider | hd0 would not be sdc | 16:56 |
billybigrigger | it was root (hd0,1) and /dev/sdc1 | 16:56 |
bjsnider | it would be sda | 16:56 |
billybigrigger | ya i dunno | 16:56 |
billybigrigger | i'm in x now | 16:56 |
yofel | that would mean your device.map is wrong | 16:56 |
billybigrigger | i tried hd0,1 and sda1 and busybox complained it couldn't find /sbin/init | 16:56 |
bjsnider | what if you try hd2,1? | 16:57 |
billybigrigger | hd2,1 is my music drive | 16:57 |
bjsnider | is your root hard drive not plugged into the first sata port? | 16:57 |
billybigrigger | ls at the grub rescue prompt showed hd0 hd0,1 hd0,5 hd 06, hd1 hd1,1 hd2 hd2,1 | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | bjsnider: no, root is on sdc1 | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | in my device.map | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | hd0 /dev/sda | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | hd1 sdb | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | hd2 sdc | 16:58 |
bjsnider | yes but i mean physically, is it plugged into sata1? | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | yeah | 16:58 |
billybigrigger | oooh wait a minute, i was screwing around with my sata ports when i was modding my xbox360 | 16:59 |
* billybigrigger ponders.... | 16:59 | |
billybigrigger | :)1 | 16:59 |
bjsnider | don't ponder. open it up and look | 16:59 |
billybigrigger | no i needed to ponder | 17:00 |
billybigrigger | root disk is ide | 17:00 |
billybigrigger | the other 2 storage drives are sata | 17:00 |
bjsnider | you've got a board with 1 ata and multiple satas | 17:01 |
bjsnider | or 2 atas | 17:01 |
billybigrigger | 2 atas, root disk, and dvdrw are ata | 17:01 |
billybigrigger | and 4 sata ports | 17:01 |
bjsnider | well, ide drives should not be called sd-anything | 17:02 |
bjsnider | sd is sata, orscsi | 17:02 |
billybigrigger | yeah | 17:02 |
bjsnider | waht does /etc/fstab say? | 17:02 |
billybigrigger | ide drives have been showing up as sd for me for a long time, since intrepid iirc | 17:02 |
billybigrigger_ | http://pastebin.com/m77a5503d | 17:04 |
bjsnider | if sata drives get priority then i can see how your first ide drive would be sdc | 17:05 |
bjsnider | because you have two satas | 17:05 |
bjsnider | which would be a and b | 17:05 |
bjsnider | and in fact that is exactly what your fstab file says | 17:06 |
yofel | makes sense, but that doesn't explain why an ide drive would show up as sdX, some bios setting? | 17:07 |
om26er | !mac | 17:07 |
ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 17:07 |
bjsnider | i don't know. maybe the kernel changed in that regard | 17:08 |
om26er | how can i find my wireless mac address | 17:08 |
om26er | i am not connected to any network | 17:08 |
bjsnider | iwconfig | 17:08 |
bjsnider | i think that show you what it is | 17:08 |
om26er | bjsnider, iwconfig | 17:08 |
om26er | dont work | 17:08 |
bjsnider | what do you mean? | 17:08 |
billybigrigger | bjsnider: yofel thanks for the help guys | 17:09 |
billybigrigger | i have a semi-working x, all i needed for now, will fix later i guess :P | 17:09 |
om26er | does not show the mac address of wifi | 17:09 |
yofel | om26er: doesn't ifconfig show it even if you're disconnected? | 17:10 |
om26er | dont seem to | 17:10 |
bjsnider | it would be the "HWAddr" | 17:10 |
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yoasif_ | anyone here using xchat? | 18:31 |
yofel | yoasif_: sometimes, what's the question? | 18:32 |
yoasif_ | yofel, i added a new server to my autojoins, but there aren't any channel set up for the autojoins (the server is slashnet)... when i start up xchat now, the "join channel" dialog comes up, i enter #webdesign, and it crashes | 18:33 |
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bjsnider | try it from the console to check output | 18:35 |
bjsnider | there are two different xchat options in the repos though | 18:35 |
bjsnider | maybe you've got the wrong one | 18:35 |
yoasif_ | bjsnider, i can do that, there are no debug packages fyi | 18:35 |
yoasif_ | hmm | 18:35 |
bjsnider | are you using xchat or xchat-gnome? | 18:36 |
yoasif_ | xchat-gnome | 18:36 |
yoasif_ | Installed: 1:0.26.1-1ubuntu1 | 18:37 |
bjsnider | i'm using the xchat package, and it doesn't crash, at east here on karmic | 18:37 |
bjsnider | i had trouble with the other one | 18:37 |
yoasif_ | yeah, but xchat-gnome is in main | 18:37 |
bjsnider | what is your point? | 18:38 |
yoasif_ | main apps should supposedly have more support | 18:38 |
yoasif_ | that's all | 18:38 |
yoasif_ | alright, i'll try it in console, brb | 18:39 |
yofel | wasn't that something about the license, not support? | 18:40 |
bjsnider | please don't bore me with talk of licenses | 18:41 |
mac_v | lol | 18:41 |
yofel | hehe | 18:41 |
yoasif_ | bjsnider, yofel this is my console output | 18:42 |
yoasif_ | http://pastebin.com/m33345204 | 18:42 |
yofel | segfault yay... | 18:43 |
yoasif_ | yeah and no debug packages | 18:43 |
bjsnider | it only says segmentation fault, nothing else helpful | 18:44 |
bjsnider | try the other xchat | 18:44 |
yoasif_ | i'm not looking for a workaround, i want to submit a good bug report heh | 18:44 |
yofel | yoasif_: run xchat-gnome in gdb and get a backtrace? | 18:45 |
bjsnider | is anyone still developing it? | 18:45 |
yoasif_ | xchat-gnome is dead upstream? | 18:45 |
mac_v | bjsnider: xchat-gnome is not dead ,it is active more atleast in Ubuntu :) | 18:46 |
bjsnider | i don't know | 18:46 |
* mac_v uses xchat... waiting or userlist to be implemented to switch to *-gnome | 18:46 | |
bjsnider | why is it always so unstable then? | 18:46 |
mac_v | for* | 18:46 |
yofel | is it really active? the package wasn't modified since jaunty... | 18:47 |
mac_v | bjsnider: not sure , i used it a couple of weeks ago , seemed fine then... | 18:47 |
mac_v | yofel: kenvandine is doing work on the xchat-gnome... , let me find the package | 18:47 |
mac_v | yofel: if you want to check dev frequency... even xchat hasnt had updates since jan/feb :) | 18:48 |
bjsnider | xchat works fine here | 18:49 |
mac_v | > https://launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+archive/xchat-gnome | 18:49 |
mac_v | bjsnider: yeah , for me too :) | 18:49 |
mac_v | yoasif_: try the ppa ^ bug might have been solved | 18:51 |
yoasif_ | mac_v, getting the backtrace first | 18:51 |
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bjsnider | ghostcube, ping | 20:43 |
SantaBUG | hey yoasif bjsnider | 20:43 |
SantaBUG | Merry xtmas guys http://p.bugabundo.net/merry-xtmas-and-an-happy-new-year-2010 | 20:43 |
SantaBUG | I LUV YOU ALL | 20:43 |
Tallken | omg | 21:21 |
i_is_broke | well all have a safe and merry christmas.:D | 21:32 |
sebsebseb | hi | 21:39 |
Izinucs | If I load up kubuntu alpha on a system that also has windows and ubuntu.. 1> will it replace grub1 with grub2 2> how will that effect my booting the older ubuntu install | 21:56 |
darthanubis | no | 21:58 |
Izinucs | guess that answers question 1 and 2 concurrently :) | 22:08 |
Bookman | In 9.10 there used to be System>Administration>Services, what does 10.04 now that this has been removed? | 23:24 |
Bookman | Actually I'm not sure 9.10 had it either. Last time I checked was in 9.04 | 23:26 |
yofel | as far as I know this is still being worked on because managing system services has changed now that ubuntu uses upstart | 23:35 |
BUGabundo | eheh | 23:35 |
yofel | more like a upstart/sysvinit mix right now :/ | 23:35 |
Bookman | Did 9.10 have it? | 23:36 |
yofel | don't know any more TBH | 23:36 |
Bookman | So there is no GUI method of starting/stopping services? And to see which are running? | 23:36 |
bjsnider | karmic did not have the services cp | 23:37 |
bjsnider | there is no gui method of stopping and starting services | 23:37 |
Bookman | Well that is a pita | 23:39 |
bjsnider | i think lucid is going to be 100% upstart | 23:40 |
Bookman | I have no idea what upstart is | 23:41 |
yofel | !upstart | 23:41 |
ubottu | Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ | 23:41 |
Bookman | Thanks! I will get reading | 23:42 |
Bookman | So if I SSH into a machine not running an ssh server, will it automatically start it? (start on event) | 23:45 |
yofel | Bookman: no, to start an ssh connection you'll need a listening ssh server on the other pc | 23:46 |
bjsnider | which means you would need to configure the service to start | 23:47 |
BUGabundo | Bookman: look at xinetd | 23:49 |
yofel | Bookman: 'event' is used here as in another service or init itself emits an event and another service can be configured to start when that happens | 23:49 |
Bookman | Got it. | 23:49 |
Bookman | I'm trying to install openssh via synaptic and it will not allow me. I think there are dependencies issues. | 23:50 |
yofel | really? lemme check for updates, I do have the server installed here | 23:52 |
BUGabundo | works fine her | 23:53 |
Bookman | hmmm.... | 23:53 |
yofel | nope, nothing related to openssh | 23:53 |
yofel | Bookman: can you be a bit more verbose about 'doesn't allow me to'? | 23:55 |
Bookman | I am checking my repositories list now. | 23:56 |
Bookman | That was it. Some were not turned on, sorry about htat. | 23:56 |
Bookman | *that | 23:56 |
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