[00:31] any one knows what this means [00:31] ERROR: ioctl() [No such file or directory][2] [00:38] BUGabundo, notice anything strange about chromium-browser today? [00:38] BUGabundo: need more info than that [00:38] BUGabundo: also, we've fixed the codec setup issue, so if you have time, we can try the powerdown fixes for your HDA controller [00:40] crimsun: not tonight [00:40] I just got into bed [00:40] just seeing what's up , and sleep in a bit [00:40] ping me tomorrow [00:40] if you are sitting in front of a pc [00:40] bjsnider: like? [00:41] browser window assuming the full length of the webpage instead of creating a scrollbar [00:43] bjsnider: well I only opened gmail and vodafone.pt [00:43] didn't notice anyrhing weird in neither [00:43] any site you want me to test all my browsers? [00:44] about my prob, I'm getting that while using n2n [00:44] it was working fine all week [00:44] up until now [00:44] nothing in my logs [00:44] only on cli, when started [00:45] it simply dies [00:45] crimsun, can you run jack and pulse at the same time? [00:45] you can do anything you want [00:46] we only have jack1 in Ubuntu, however, which does not have the dbus handoff work [00:46] which would be using which? [00:46] -EPARSE [00:47] jack1 and pulse will race on hw:, if that's what you're asking [00:47] what does that mean "race on hw"? [00:47] if jackd grabs hw:, then it will have exclusive access to the sound devices, and pulseaudio will lose the race thus giving you a dummy/null sink/source [00:48] if pulseaudio grabs hw:, then it will have exclusive access to the sound devices, and jackd will lose the race and complain bitterly [00:48] so pulse could not act as a middle-man for jack and vice versa [00:48] neither can [00:48] if anything, dbus is the proposed "middle man" [00:48] well, there's a ppa whre pulseaudio is patched to, i dunno use jack or whatever. [00:49] the issue upstream is that jack has no way of saying "I'm done" [00:49] crimsun: sound is cliping [00:49] and flanging [00:49] BUGabundo: that's great, go to sleep and ping me in the morning. [00:49] lolol [00:50] let me check paman [00:50] to see if it is not above 100% [00:50] bjsnider: "patched to"? Meaning pulse is built with jack support? [00:50] 88% actually [00:51] bjsnider: that doesn't resolve the unerlying race that I described [00:51] crimsun, it would seems so. but what does jack support eve mean? [00:52] bjsnider: it means pulse can use jack as a sink and as a source [00:52] https://launchpad.net/~motin/+archive/until-jack-is-included-in-main [00:53] yes, I've corresponded with him [00:53] his first attempts at versioning were abysmal [00:53] somebody's bugging me to add jack support the libxine [00:53] can't do it [00:54] huh? [00:54] just look at the original Debian source package [00:55] it's awfully, awfully difficult [00:55] what are you talking about? [00:55] jack is going to be in main i think [00:55] nothing. just joking around [00:56] jack *will* be in main as soon people get off their arses and finish the documentation (MIR) [00:58] what is portaudio? [00:59] another API [00:59] why can't we just have ONE audio system that's flexible enough that it does everything? [01:00] christ, that's what we're trying to do [01:00] Dec 24 00:35:48 BluBUG pulseaudio[1481]: ratelimit.c: 105 events suppressed [01:00] sigh [01:00] BUGabundo: that doesn't mean a thing [01:01] means a 20MBs log :) [01:01] people look at ratelimit and go "oh no" [01:01] its writing ervery 10 sec [01:01] BUGabundo: seriously, it very probably means your sound hw is broken, and we're unable to work around it in the driver [01:01] eheh [01:01] we know its broken [01:01] you proved it yesterday [01:01] so's his graphics card [01:02] no, yesterday was a bug [01:02] takashi and I fixed it early this morning [01:02] crisum:I'm getting ready to report a Lucid bug. Every time an application starts to play a sound or stops playing a sound there is a pop/click. Does you know if I should report this as a bug for the pulseaudio package or the linux package? [01:02] SoftwareExplorer: don't bother, I already know about powerdown issues. [01:03] bjsnider: not sure gpu is broken... from what I've been reading, I think savat was wrong. this card is proposely cripped by manufatured [01:03] SoftwareExplorer: technically it's a linux issue, but the symptom is *caused* by an addition to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, which is owned by the alsa-driver source package. [01:03] what? [01:03] the manufacturer cannopt cripple the purevideo hardware [01:03] they could cripple the windows driver [01:04] but the hardware would not be crippled [01:04] oh but the OEM can do anything [01:04] there's this thing called a "bios" [01:04] crimsun, not without opening the case and hacking it with a screwdriver [01:04] (and don't tell me efi is any better) [01:04] crimsun: Ok, thanks. [01:04] bjsnider: it doesn't have to have anything to do with physically crippling it [01:05] bjsnider: not like that [01:05] they can cripple the windblows driver and that's all. the purevideo hardware cannot be disabled in the bios [01:05] basicly this model is a entrance model [01:05] so they used less pipes [01:05] 16 instead of regular 32 [01:05] pipes? [01:05] so it "can't" do vdpay [01:05] did you ask nvidia about this? [01:05] bjsnider: dude, you can do a *lot* in bios. you can intercept all sorts of junk. [01:06] bjsnider: its words from nvidia dev on their forum [01:06] about the g85 vs g90 GPU core [01:06] i'd like to see that post [01:06] easy [01:06] take that craptop back and get a better one [01:06] you got robbed [01:06] google nvidia forum 8400 vdpau [01:06] its on board [01:07] SoftwareExplorer: which codec do you have? head -6 /proc/asound/card*/codec* [01:07] if that happened then the windows purevideo driver would also not work [01:08] bjsnider: no idea [01:08] maybe it doesn't [01:08] I never put win in this laptop [01:09] BUGabundo, who manufactured that thing? which oem? [01:09] asustek [01:09] model S27S [01:09] *S37S [01:09] crimsun: "Conexant CX20549 (Venice)" , when I ran the command it did pop/click [01:09] asus? [01:10] what the heck is byobu? [01:10] bjsnider: not quite... it's the factory that used to assemble Asus laptop [01:10] now asus has a new factory [01:10] SoftwareExplorer: ok, thanks. I should have fixes for that in a few days [01:10] !google byobu [01:11] crimsun: Thanks for working on Ubuntu :) [01:12] SoftwareExplorer, that's very different from the messages he usually sees in here [01:52] hey there, im trying the lucid alpha 1 on a virtual machine, and it demands login/pw , which i have no idea what it could be... [01:55] hm.. on the ARM from schratch it was ubuntu:ubuntu [01:57] its not that, guess i should have download the alpha instead of the daily build === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:59] can't help sry [02:21] jherraez: is this the livecd asking? [02:23] booted from the daily build , selected try without changes, eventually gdm appeared asking for a login, throw typical "ubuntu" and "guest" at it, no luck [02:25] jherraez: default login is ubuntu with no password, I think [02:26] nope, when i type ubuntu it will play the usual failure song, won't even ask for a pw [02:28] thx anyway, im goin to sleep now, ill just wait for alpha 2 to try again [02:28] That to me indicates some form of mess-up.. (redownload?/wait for next daily build?) dunno though. [05:02] I'm trying to get a backtrace for an xserver bug. The machine I'm using has a nvidia card, and I haven't installed the proprietary driver. What debug symbol packages should I install? I have already added the ddebs repository(s) [05:02] SoftwareExplorer, what driver are you using then? [05:03] SoftwareExplorer: libc6, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-video-(nv,vesa - depending on your driver), various xserver-xorg-input-* packages... [05:03] I don't know a lot about how the xserver works, how would I find out what driver? [05:03] grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:03] you're probably using the awesome nv driver then [05:04] it lists fb, nv and vesa [05:05] RAOF: so when you say, for example, libc6 I should add "-dbgsym" to the end of it? [05:06] Yup. [05:06] You'd add -dbgsym to all those package names. [05:06] RAOF: Ok, got. Thanks. I'll see what I can get [05:07] RAOF: Sorry, I meant "Ok, got it." (oops) [05:07] X's backtrace itself can help in working out what dbgsym packages you need - ie: if nv_drv.so appears in the backtrace, you'll need the dbgsym package for the package containing nv_drv.so, which you can find using "dpkg -S nv_drv.so". [05:08] RAOF: Wow, thanks, that will help a lot. I was kind of wondering if I could find out what package a file belonged to. [05:09] dpkg -S is awesomely useful, yes. If you're looking for "what package contains this file that I don't have", then apt-file is what you're after. [05:17] GDB says "Reading symbols from /usr/bin/Xorg...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/Xorg...(no debugging symbols found)...done." is that bad? dpkg -S Xorg has the line "xserver-xorg-core-dbgsym: /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/Xorg" which I have installed. So wouldn't I have the package that has what I need already installed? [05:19] That's OK; it's read debugging symbols for Xorg, and it can't find debugging symbols for the debugging symbols of Xorg. [05:22] RAOF: Thanks :) [05:39] anyone alive? [05:39] i did an update-manager -d upgrade to lucid today and upon reboot, i'm stuck at a grub rescue screen with grub rescue> [05:39] something about the symbol `grub_gettext` not found [05:39] any clues? [05:40] there is one forum post i've dug up and it's a pretty new thread, only 3 posts, and the solution doesn't work for me [05:40] what is the latest vmlinuz image? maybe i can manually boot it, but have no way of telling what kernel i have [05:44] 2.6.31-17 is what i got. [05:45] whats the standard 64bit kernel? [05:45] -686 [05:45] vmlinuz-2.6.31-17-686 file not found [05:45] :( [05:47] wait wrong grub..sorry hold on a sec. [05:47] 2.6.32-9 [05:50] i_is_broke: you there? [05:50] yeah [05:51] thought i lost my connection [05:51] na your still here..lol [05:53] hmm [05:53] 2.6.32-9 doesn't exist either [05:53] sigh [05:54] this sucks [05:59] when did you last update? [06:00] i have -5 threw -9 [06:01] might try with generic-pae on it. [06:01] 00000000000000000000 [06:01] ...............................................................................3 [06:01] 0 [06:01] 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 [06:01] 0. [06:01] hmmm? [06:01] oh my, sorry, was trying to type over the laptop on my other machine [06:02] lol np. [06:02] ahh ls /boot works from rescue promt :P [06:02] its 32-9-generic [06:02] not 686 like i was trying [06:03] figured it was something simple...just didnt know which one it was. [06:07] ok now i'm at a busy box shell [06:07] telling me to try root = /dev/sda1 [06:07] well thats a step closer..lol [06:07] not hda1 [06:08] never used a busy box shell [06:08] i don't see any commands to set root boot device though [06:08] ls [06:09] set root foo, e.g., set root (hd0,1) [06:09] we deprecated -686 many releases ago [06:11] crimsun: just going of the only solution i've found for my problem [06:11] kernel in question was 2.6.31-1-686 so....yeah [06:12] ...from Debian? [06:13] http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361013 [06:13] now i'm getting target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init [06:13] -1- is very old [06:13] no init found try passing init= bootarg [06:13] i'm using 2.6.32-9-generic [06:14] you really should use an alternate installer in rescue mode [06:14] i don't have an install disk, this was from a karmic upgrade [06:15] you don't have a live image, either? [06:15] (you're seriously running a development version with no alternate installer or desktop installer?) [06:16] yup [06:17] jaunty+1 was beautiful for me, not any problems like this ever [06:17] just saying that it's foolhardy not to have a rescue mode available [06:18] it sounds like you haven't gotten a real / yet [06:19] i can ls in busy box and it show's my / [06:21] do you have /sbin/init ? [06:21] no [06:21] do you have /sbin on a separate partition? [06:21] no [06:21] then it isn't your real / [06:22] have a good suggestion for a live usb? [06:22] slax usb download link is broken [06:23] anything that boots and ships /usr/sbin/chroot is a good candidate [06:23] were you current with updates? [06:25] yeah just updated karmic, then did a update-manager -d upgrade to lucid [06:26] mountall 2.2 or 2.3? [06:26] your speaking chinese [06:31] crimsun: what is mountall? 2.2 or 2.3? [06:31] i just updated that.. [06:32] we just went in to 2.3. [06:33] i have thought about and think i will from now on out im going to save a list of all the updates that i get, on my production box so i can go back and see incase of things like this. [06:34] apt and dpkg both have logs in /var/log/ [06:43] crimsun yeah but if you cant get into them...they wont do you any good, thats why i said i was going to put them on my production box so i can have them for fubar moments. [06:44] hmm this sucks [06:44] so much for passing out to heroes tonight :P [06:46] i_is_broke: there should not be a reason you can't get to them provided you always keep a method for chrooting into the install [06:46] i.e., an alternate installer disc/image [06:47] ah thats true, i guess i should make one as well...the only thing i got right now is karmics install disk.. [06:47] you could also configure rsyslog to log remotely, too [06:50] cant i just copy them threw ssh? [06:51] crimsun you got to remember im still learning this stuff... [06:52] i_is_broke: sure, there are many roads to Rome [06:53] crimsun that is what i like about linux theres more then one way to do something or run something unlike windows where you have to do everything there way or it borks everything. [06:55] that and the fact that everytime a new windows version is release you almost have to buy a new computer to get it to run. [06:56] linux im pressed me when i had my old 2x2x6 burner and windows wouldnt run it any more, but i installed linux and it worked like a charm..slow as hell but still worked. [07:10] what the hey ....cant the find something else to spam..that one is getting old. === voidmage-away is now known as voidmage [09:45] bjsnider: merry christmas! are you there? :) [09:48] is anyone having issues with grub? update-grub locks up here [09:50] nvm, it worked. It just took a LOT of time, lol === nanomad_ is now known as nanomad [11:47] Hey, got strange screen-output for Usplash and TTYs, guess its related to xorg-nv, because nvidia-glx is installed and correctly working for desktop mode [11:47] any idea? [11:50] hi [11:51] hey its not very useful to have no CONSOLE available because graphic-output is crippled [11:51] hello anyone of 146? [11:59] gimp-plugin-registry depends on libcv1, libcvaux1 and libhighgui1 but new sivp 0.5.0-1ubuntu3 upgraded packages to libcv4, libcvaux4 and libhighgui4 [12:17] hey according to synaptic search mode the new section list with one section per source is really nice, great work [12:18] now when we install a specific package [12:18] can you add a text in the properties, from which source it comes from, that would be really helpful [12:19] xD it already is [12:33] Hi, is anyone else experiencing graphics glitching and occasional blank screens requiring a reboot, using Intel graphics hardware in Lucid? [12:41] maxb, no but lots a graphic glitches in TTY or during boot and shutdown with Nvidia, nobody here cares [13:05] maxb: me after resuming from suspend [13:07] yofel: bug 492392 is where I've been making notes [13:07] Launchpad bug 492392 in linux "[lucid, intel] After suspend, flickering screen and then blank screen." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/492392 [13:07] What's your hardware? [13:07] Mine is an Aspire One [13:07] 945GME [13:07] (eeePC 1000H) [13:08] yep, that sounds like the bug [13:09] hmm... well at least it affects enough common hardware that it ought to get some attention :-) [13:10] hmm... seems I've developed a gdm-fails-to-start race condition too [13:11] yeah, that GPU was pretty much the default for netbooks for a while [13:13] Well... that was novel. Having persuaded GDM to start at all, I had to log in three times before it managed it without crashing [14:35] Hey all [14:59] i unplugged the charger but still the battery status show full === mac_v is now known as \vish [16:30] anyone alive? [16:31] anyone had problems with grub booting to rescue mode after an upgrade to lucid? [16:31] i'm stuck at the rescue prompt giving me about symbol grub_gettext not found [16:35] crimsun: ping [16:35] I don't have that but I'm certain a few people reported the same [16:35] *error [16:35] oh yeah? [16:35] i found 1 post on the forums, and the solution doesn't work for me [16:39] yofel: i can get to a busybox shell...but with the error target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init [16:39] i think it was crimsun told me i haven't picked the right / [16:39] tried booting (hd0,1) and root = /dev/sda1 [16:39] that would explain a few things [16:40] http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361013 [16:40] last post [16:40] i get to a busybox shell with that, changing my device names and kernel of course [16:40] but i'm not sure if booting a supergrub disk will tell me how grub see's my disks [16:42] hm... do you have /boot seperate or on / ? [16:43] yofel: haha this sounds amatuer but i don't know [16:43] booting SGD now to peak around [16:43] ahh poop i'm going to need to chroot [16:44] well, I'm still trying to figure out what information grub2 needs to boot the os... [16:45] hmm [16:45] found out my / is on sdc1 [16:45] and no separate /boot [16:46] and assuming i still remember grub2's naming convention, that should be 2,0 no? [16:46] hm that would be 'set root=(hd2,1)' then [16:46] i know between grub and grub2 they named hdd's different [16:46] no, 2,0 was grub-legacy [16:46] ahh [16:46] ok [16:46] VERY annoying [16:47] hmm [16:47] will give that a go [16:47] at least if I understand this correct now... [16:48] understand what [16:48] the numbering [16:48] hmmm [16:49] yep, sdc1 is 2,1, checked the doc [16:49] linux16 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-9-generic root=/dev/sdc1 ro [16:49] file not found [16:49] where as before, using (hd0,1) and /dev/sda1 it found it [16:49] and booted [16:49] o.O [16:49] i have 2 other hard drives, sda and sdb, but root is on sdc [16:50] maybe grub isn't seeing those disks and is naming sdc as sda [16:50] because i can boot my 2.6.32-9-generic kernel using set root hd0,1 and /dev/sda1 [16:50] maybe the device.map isn't right? [16:51] hm, and root hd2,1 and /dev/sdc1 ? [16:51] ahhh [16:51] err... [16:51] grub rescue prompt has an ls [16:51] hd0,1 and /dev/sdc1 [16:51] after setting rood to hd2,1 and running ls [16:51] i can see i'm not on my / disk [16:52] hehe, good to know... [16:52] hmm [16:53] it has to be hd0 [16:53] as i can see hd0 hd0,1 hd0,6 hd0,5 [16:53] which would be my / /home and swap i assume [16:53] it has to be 0,1 [16:55] can you check your device.map somehow? [16:56] hmm [16:56] got to x in low graphics mode [16:56] hd0 would not be sdc [16:56] it was root (hd0,1) and /dev/sdc1 [16:56] it would be sda [16:56] ya i dunno [16:56] i'm in x now [16:56] that would mean your device.map is wrong [16:56] i tried hd0,1 and sda1 and busybox complained it couldn't find /sbin/init [16:57] what if you try hd2,1? [16:57] hd2,1 is my music drive [16:57] is your root hard drive not plugged into the first sata port? [16:58] ls at the grub rescue prompt showed hd0 hd0,1 hd0,5 hd 06, hd1 hd1,1 hd2 hd2,1 [16:58] bjsnider: no, root is on sdc1 [16:58] in my device.map [16:58] hd0 /dev/sda [16:58] hd1 sdb [16:58] hd2 sdc [16:58] yes but i mean physically, is it plugged into sata1? [16:58] yeah [16:59] oooh wait a minute, i was screwing around with my sata ports when i was modding my xbox360 [16:59] * billybigrigger ponders.... [16:59] :)1 [16:59] don't ponder. open it up and look [17:00] no i needed to ponder [17:00] root disk is ide [17:00] the other 2 storage drives are sata [17:01] you've got a board with 1 ata and multiple satas [17:01] or 2 atas [17:01] 2 atas, root disk, and dvdrw are ata [17:01] and 4 sata ports [17:02] well, ide drives should not be called sd-anything [17:02] sd is sata, orscsi [17:02] yeah [17:02] waht does /etc/fstab say? [17:02] ide drives have been showing up as sd for me for a long time, since intrepid iirc [17:04] http://pastebin.com/m77a5503d [17:05] if sata drives get priority then i can see how your first ide drive would be sdc [17:05] because you have two satas [17:05] which would be a and b [17:06] and in fact that is exactly what your fstab file says [17:07] makes sense, but that doesn't explain why an ide drive would show up as sdX, some bios setting? [17:07] !mac [17:07] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [17:08] i don't know. maybe the kernel changed in that regard [17:08] how can i find my wireless mac address [17:08] i am not connected to any network [17:08] iwconfig [17:08] i think that show you what it is [17:08] bjsnider, iwconfig [17:08] dont work [17:08] what do you mean? [17:09] bjsnider: yofel thanks for the help guys [17:09] i have a semi-working x, all i needed for now, will fix later i guess :P [17:09] does not show the mac address of wifi [17:10] om26er: doesn't ifconfig show it even if you're disconnected? [17:10] dont seem to [17:10] it would be the "HWAddr" === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:31] anyone here using xchat? [18:32] yoasif_: sometimes, what's the question? [18:33] yofel, i added a new server to my autojoins, but there aren't any channel set up for the autojoins (the server is slashnet)... when i start up xchat now, the "join channel" dialog comes up, i enter #webdesign, and it crashes === \vish is now known as mac_v [18:35] try it from the console to check output [18:35] there are two different xchat options in the repos though [18:35] maybe you've got the wrong one [18:35] bjsnider, i can do that, there are no debug packages fyi [18:35] hmm [18:36]