[00:08] apw: any interest in extending buildscripts/build-mkschroot to work for Debian suites, too? I could push my tree. [00:57] crimsun, why not indeed === zoglesby_ is now known as zoglesby === zoglesby_ is now known as zoglesby [19:01] Quick question folks: is there a way of installing latest kernel from Lucid on 8.10? [19:01] I've tried the PPA for kernel, but its empty ;] [19:01] matti, I think that could break stuff, you may want to try that in a virtual machine [19:02] Isn't the kernel quasi-agnostic? [19:02] matti: of course, just manually install the debs [19:02] I believe it should be fine, but I will use your advise ;] [19:02] insert big fat disclaimer/caveat [19:03] crimsun: I am not gonna complain in a case of issues. [19:03] ;] [19:03] crimsun, a quick question: won't the latest kernel break stuff in intrepid, i am just asking to get some information on this topic [19:04] I always can build it myself using make-kpkg. [19:04] dhillon-v10: Em. Actually. [19:04] dhillon-v10: Interpid is still udev-bounded. [19:04] dhillon-v10: Therefore it might actually be unhappy. [19:04] ;] [19:05] I wonder if backport is possible. [19:06] matti, there are some great videos on youtube about making a custom kernel on debian based systems (ubuntu) let me get you the link for that, I have tried myself it works :D [19:07] I have no problem compiling it from the vanilla. [19:07] But I like the way how it is patched in Ubuntu. [19:07] I've noticed, that an upstream bug has been resolved in almost-latest version available in Lucid. [19:07] Hence, I wanted to upgrade ;] [19:08] matti, ahh here you go, try it out and see what you get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH4H9cHPV2s&feature=channel that's part 1, part 2 will be in the related videos [19:09] I have to finally put myself up and do some bug squashing and help in general with the Ubuntu development. [19:09] dhillon-v10: Thanks! [19:09] dhillon-v10: Interestingly, I am finding process of building .deb package a nightmare ;] [19:10] matti, sure :D I actually got started with ubuntu development in this channel [19:10] matti, packaging isn't too hard, over time you get the hang of it [19:10] dhillon-v10: Granted. [19:10] dhillon-v10: I am used to building .rpm because of my work. [19:11] dhillon-v10: And it is really simple - I've found building .deb a little bit more complex - although both apt-get and aptitude are better than rpm package manager. [19:11] dhillon-v10: Any advice on how to begin? [19:11] matti, sure, you will have to do a lot of reading [19:12] matti, what are you trying to package [19:12] Nothing at the moment. [19:12] matti, nice :D alright let's find something for you, just a sec. [19:13] Perhaps I should backport vlc 1.0.x to Intrepid. [19:13] Unless its already done. [19:13] matti, you want to start out doing something smaller, I am not discouraging you but the amount of information you will find will be hard to keep up with [19:14] ;] [19:14] But it is not a rocket science, isnt it? ;] [19:14] matti, here's an insanely long guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html keep that for reference, Danial Holbach made some videos on packaging, let me get you the link for that as well [19:15] matti, no its not rocket science otherwise I wouldn't get it [19:15] You would ;] [19:15] Nothing is impossible. [19:16] ;] [19:16] matti, alright here's another page, this one is long but you will have to read it, sorry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete [19:17] What do we use during build process? [19:17] Makefile? Ant? Scons? [19:17] Crazy to the level of n^n autoconf? [19:17] ;] [19:18] matti, nothing there's one common build process that applies to packaging a software written in any language [19:18] matti, that makes Debian so awesome [19:19] Quick question - side thing - is there a way for an aplication to be forced to re-connect to the Puleaudio sink? [19:20] matti, not sure about that, I am learning about the sound base, right now I don't know much :D [19:20] matti, alright here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Videos [19:22] ;] [19:23] matti, when you finish watching the videos you can then jump on to #ubuntu-motu and then ask on how to get started [19:24] OK [19:24] I am already spying there ;] [19:25] dhillon-v10: Thank you very much for your help! [19:25] dhillon-v10: Do you have Wiki page on ubuntu.com? [19:25] matti, good luck and whenever you need me just /query dhillon-v10 [19:25] matti, yah just a sec. [19:26] matti, it needs to be updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/dhillonv/ will do that today [19:26] Oh gosh. [19:26] My FF just crashed ;] [19:26] * matti blames Adobe Flash. [19:27] matti, use chromium its really fast but in beta though never crashed until now [19:27] Indeed it is. [19:27] I am used to FF, hard to break old habits ;] [19:28] Oh, you do not actually have feedback section in there ;] [19:30] matti, just make one then lol :D [19:31] matti, alright its there now [19:35] Ops. [19:35] I have conflicting entry ;] [19:35] I was in process of adding one for you ;] [19:36] matti, don't worry I'll fix it [19:38] I can deal with it ;p [19:40] - done. [19:40] Hope you like it ;] [19:41] matti, thanks a lot, now that you remind me, I need to get testimonials from other devs. as well :D [19:41] :) [19:42] matti, alright I have to go now, good luck and I'll talk to you later bye [19:42] Bye! [19:42] Merry Christmas! [19:42] matti, yah same to you