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pete_hi all01:57
running_rabbit07Happy Holidays All! I recently installed Brasero on my Kubuntu machine and now I can't open any folders. I uninstalled Brasero, because the only reply I got to my thread, was to tell me I am supposed to use the Kubuntu program. Anyway, does anyone know what I have to do to get my folder opening capaabilities back? Thanx02:08
pumbawhat do you mean by saying "you can not open any folders"?02:09
running_rabbit07If I try to open a file, brasero tries to open it instead of Dolphin, after uninstalling brasero, I get a window saying brasero can't be found02:11
running_rabbit07http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8555522#post8555522 is my UF thread where there is a screenshot of the brasero window that was popping up.02:13
running_rabbit07Am I going to hve to reinstall Kubuntu to fix the settings?02:19
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asobianyone know how to extract .z01, .z02 etc?03:01
daskreechWhat's the file type?03:07
archnubhi can anyone help me debug the issue im having with my hauppauge 1250 card?03:10
archnubits being autodetected correctly but spews out tveeprom 0-0050: Encountered bad packet header [ff]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom. message03:10
Wolfcastlehello03:12
WolfcastleI'm having problems with knetworkmanager03:12
Wolfcastlesometimes on startup it shows me the available wifi connection but it doesn't try to connect when i click on it03:13
Wolfcastleonly thing that fixes it is a restart of knetworkmanager03:13
daskreechTHat's hauppage audio ?03:22
daskreechWolfcastle: is there anything interesting about the network ?03:22
Wolfcastledaskreech: not really, protected with wpa203:23
* daskreech slowly backs off :)03:24
archnubno its a tv card03:26
daskreecharchnub: ah right. I'd say hit up #mythtv they would have great knowledge of TV cards03:29
archnubi agree and i have googled every website about it for the last 2 days no luck03:29
archnubeven recompiled the latest and greatest v4l-dvb drivers 4 times now, tried messing with insmod options, etc03:30
Roastednoob question - "user is not in sudoers file" how can I add a user to have sudo rights from within kuser management tool?03:31
daskreechRoasted: How much power would you like them to have?03:36
Roasteddaskreech - I just needed them to have sudo power. But I figured it out. In kuser you have to addt hem to the "admin" group.03:37
RoastedI got confused becuase you see, I created a user named "administrator", so I had an administrator group there. So I added my new user to administrator thinking that was it, not realizing administrator was a "user group"03:37
daskreechRoasted: I was going to say if you wanted them to have the same power as the first user just add them to the admin group03:37
Roastedonce I added him to "admin" I was good to go03:37
daskreechRoasted: Ah right03:38
Roastedgosh I hate last minute set ups. trying to get these done so I can put these darn computers under the tree! :P03:38
daskreechRoasted: if you give up then say the gift is 10 months of cost free support :)03:39
Roastedlol - thats the only downside with immediate family. The support is kind of pre-built in :P03:39
Roastedbut hey, two new dual booting rigs for my HS/freshmanincollege brothers, theyll be happy03:40
Roastedif not I'll just do the brotherly thing - resort to violence03:40
Roastedhey if I add a new user as "admin" within kuser, would I be okay then to delete the first user I created on the system?03:41
daskreechRoasted: http://tinyurl.com/ydgtmj603:42
daskreechRoasted: Why would you want to delete them?03:43
RoastedI gotta start doing that. Heck, just tonight I ended up troubleshooting a family members laptop with a virus at a family gathering :P03:43
Roasteddaskreech - well by force of habit when I set up new systems, I add the user "administrator" just becuase its the common practice at work.03:43
Roasteddaskreech - these systems are going to my brothers, curt and tyler, so I created a user account on each one to correspond with that username. But administrator is still there, and kind of useless now.03:44
RoastedI just wanted to see if I could nuke that account, leaving curt the only acct on his pc and tyler the only acct on his pc.03:44
Roastedbut I didnt want to upset anything, permissions wise, if I do that. I wasnt sure if the first user MUST exist for all eternity on *nix boxes or what.03:44
daskreechRoasted: give administrator a bastard of a password and use the same password on all the computers. If they royally screw everything up you will have a backup user. Write down the details and keep it somewhere safe of course03:46
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Roastedyeah, I can do that. BUT - COULD I delete adminstrator if I really wanted?03:47
daskreechyeah03:47
daskreechYou'd regret it later :)03:47
Roastedhow so03:47
daskreechcause at somepoint someone will change the password then sometime later they will screw everthng up then they will call you03:49
Roastedgotta love recovery console, man :P03:50
daskreechI had someone get annoyed that they had to keep typing sudo so they chowned / to themselves03:50
Roastedsudo useradd, reboot, log in as newly created user, even if the only user prior on the system was completely FUBAR'd03:50
Roastedlol03:50
Roastedthats awesome03:50
daskreechYeah one of the things I need o putin my Linux class03:51
daskreechto put in03:54
Roastedyeah03:54
RoastedI hear that one03:54
kubianwhy do that when you can use sudo -i to give you a root session03:56
daskreechWhat do you have left to do?03:56
Roasteddaskreech - what do you mean? on these systems Im doing?03:56
daskreechkubian: You'd be amazed at what the mind comes up with once they grasp the flexibilty of Linux without any background or history03:56
daskreechRoasted: Yes03:56
Roastedjust gotta pull the data off my linux server03:57
Roasteddaskreech - you see, my brothers run XP, so all of their stuff is there. I use 3rd party windows software to sync their documents to my samba server every night at 3 am.03:57
Roasteddaskreech - so that way when their rig crashes, which has happened 3 times for poor curt (and oddly 0 times for tyler) I have a backup of their stuff.03:57
Roasteddaskreech - Im just pulling last nights backup off (30 gig per) so their systems are AS ready to go as possible when they open them up tomorrow.03:58
daskreechcool03:58
gpmerry chrismas04:17
gphello I just updraded to karmic koala and its able to set the display resolution04:18
gpwhen i restarted it said ur booting low graphic mode and then was not able set my screen resolution04:18
gpit was working perfectly in kubuntu draper04:19
gpMy system is Hp proliant ML11004:21
gpand Display is Sansung SyncMaster 940 BW -> 19 inch with 1400 X900 display04:22
gpis any body there ?04:22
gphelloooooooooooooo04:23
gpcalling houston04:23
gpwtf04:31
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gp__hello04:31
Roastedwhy is kubuntu so retarded with screen resolution04:39
daskreechgp__: hi04:41
daskreechgp__: What video card do you have?04:41
gp__hi04:41
gp__daskreech: intel04:41
daskreechRoasted: I find that if KDM doesn't register properly then screen resolution gets kinda borked04:42
daskreechgp__: Can You be more specific ?04:42
gp__how to findout04:42
daskreechsudo lshw -C Video04:42
Roasteddaskreech - well I was just messing around with the resolution on this system. I forced it to 1024x768 just because. I rebooted. It comes up as 1680x1050.  Okay fine. But when I hit "display" in system settings its like, OHW AIT, NOW I REMEMBER and instantly reverts back to 1024x768. It's like, come on, it's a fricken resolution. Stay with what I say.04:43
gp__lspci -v  | grep vga04:44
gp__*-display UNCLAIMED04:44
gp__       description: VGA compatible controller04:44
gp__       product: MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1)04:44
gp__       vendor: Matrox Graphics, Inc.04:44
FloodBotK1gp__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:44
gp__       physical id: 004:44
daskreechJontheEchidna: ping04:46
JontheEchidnadaskreech: pong04:46
gp__daskreech: its Matrox Graphics ...but it was working in previous version before upgrade04:47
daskreechJontheEchidna: Any explanation as to why I can't see kipiplugins from the beta ppa ?04:47
JontheEchidnacan't see it?04:47
daskreechapt-cache policy kipi-plugins04:48
daskreechCandidate: 0.7.0-1ubuntu204:48
gp__daskreech: what to do now04:48
daskreech500 http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages04:48
daskreech500 http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages[A[A04:48
daskreechgp__: It's unclaimed. Hmm04:49
daskreechJontheEchidna: ^^^04:49
* JontheEchidna shrugs04:49
gp__https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServersHp04:52
gp__its listed here04:52
daskreechgp__: Ok cool04:56
daskreechgp__: umm last updated two years ago04:57
gp__yeah :-(04:57
daskreechthere is a possibilty that the drivers for that have been dropped04:57
daskreechLet me see if I can find out. What kernel do you have?04:57
daskreech uname -r04:57
gp__2.6.31-16-generic04:58
daskreechgp__: Seems to have a driver05:02
gp__do i have to enable it or something ?05:02
daskreechgp__: can you see if lsmod | grep mga shows anything ?05:03
gp__nopes :-(05:05
daskreechtry sudo modprobe mga05:08
gp__daskreech: sudo modprobe mga returns nothing05:41
gp__daskreech: sorry abt late reply05:41
daskreechgp__: ok rerun the lsmod grep05:43
gp__daskreech: you mean lsmod | grep vga05:47
gp__?05:47
gp__mga                    60156  005:49
gp__lsmod | grep mga  mga                    60156  0 drm                   159584  1 mga05:50
gp__daskreech: what I have do do next ...restart x server ?05:52
daskreechgp__: yes05:52
daskreechgp__: No I think you can just change your res now though you may want to check if X is using the mga driver05:53
gp__crl + alt + backspace not working05:53
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daskreechgp__: don't zap06:07
slawcioi have question (kubuntu - kde), how to set kmplayer (or how to set in kde) one instance opening kmaplyer's.. i don't want have 10 runned players but only one. like winamp :)06:13
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gpdaskreech: restarted x still same issue :-(06:17
gpmy screen resolution should be 1400 X 900 but its at 1360 X 76806:18
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gp__http://paste.ubuntu.com/346290/  ->> my X.conf file06:20
daskreechgp__: oK06:27
gp__daskreech: here the complete information ->>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346292/06:27
TLproblems here - while trying to open / mount ntfs drive.. "the enclosing drive for your volumeis locked"06:32
TLwhat now?06:33
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daskreechIrcSystemError: try and put in the driver in the xorg.conf06:34
daskreechTL: The enclosing drive?06:34
IrcSystemErrordaskreech: how ?06:34
TLnever mind it magically disappeared :)06:35
TLprobably synaptic update06:36
daskreechok06:36
daskreechIrcSystemError: in the Device Section add in Driver mga06:40
IrcSystemErrordaskreech: where to put driver name X.conf ?06:41
IrcSystemErroroks thanks06:41
IrcSystemErrordaskreech: I have update X.conf as u told ->> pl check it here ->> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346302/06:45
IrcSystemErrorrestarting x06:47
slawcioi have question (kubuntu - kde), how to set kmplayer (or how to set in kde) one instance opening kmaplyer's.. i don't want have 10 runned players but only one. like winamp :)06:51
gpdaskreech: restarted x after adding driver in x.conf ...no effect06:53
gpdaskreech:  pl help me06:53
gpi cant change the resolution06:54
daskreechslawcio: I think it's how you call it try %t instad of %u for the file type06:54
slawciook, how to set file type?06:55
daskreechgp: try sudo xrandr 006:55
daskreechslawcio: In system settings or Konqueror settings file type06:55
slawcioi use dolphin :)06:56
daskreechslawcio: system settings then06:56
gpdaskreech: did you mean  xrandr -q  ?06:59
gphttp://pastebin.com/m4c3c5f1e07:00
daskreechgp: xrandr -s 007:01
gpgives blank response07:02
daskreechgp: seems to think that 1360 x 768 is the highest you can go07:03
gpcant i force it to 1400 X 900 res07:04
gpmy eyes are paining at this res07:04
daskreechgp: ha yes you can07:04
slawciodaskreech:07:05
daskreechPut the modelines in the xorg.conf07:05
slawciodefaut is: kmplayer -caption "%c" %i %U07:05
slawciowhat I must add?07:05
daskreechslawcio: urk! I'm not that great at the file type code passing07:05
daskreechI think you change %U to something else07:05
daskreechslawcio: #kde might know better >_>07:06
slawcioyou started helping me and you must finish it!07:07
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gpdaskreech: where to modline in monitor or screen section07:10
daskreechslawcio: :-)07:12
daskreechgp: monitor07:18
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vladпривет всем07:32
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Mamarok!ru | vlad07:33
ubottuvlad: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke07:33
vladsssory07:33
slawciodaskreech: i using script "pkill -9 mplayer; kmplayer[...]" ;p07:51
slawcionow work07:51
daskreechslawcio: Umm ok08:00
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monkillMerry Christmas and Happy New Year!08:03
noaXessso m wishes from switzerland..... merry christmas.. and all the best for 201008:16
noaXesscan someone, if you will :), look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/346338/08:16
noaXesshave medibuntu and vdpau apt sources installed..08:17
TheFuzzballHappy Christmas!08:17
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neptunepinkComputer had to be euthanised because of malignant kernel threads, now a bunch of icon graphics are missing, and god-knows-what-else. Is there a way to have dpkg repair this?09:27
KelvariI have been having problems with Kubuntu Karmic while surfing the web. Sometimes the website that loads - or at least tries to load - isn't the website that I'm trying to go to.09:28
KelvariAs one recent example, I tried to go to http://www.google.com, and wound up on the Bing search homepage.09:29
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KelvariThis has happened with both wireless and wired connections, both using DHCP09:30
KelvariCan anyone provide any suggestions on how to fix this problem, and keep it from happening in the future?09:34
subitoKelvari: wasn't there some typo in the address?09:39
KelvariNo, the address had been entered correctly.09:40
KelvariEven doing a ping to the URL returned a response from the incorrect site and IP address.09:41
KelvariSometimes going to http://www.google.com would put me through to the Bing website, sometimes it would put me through to Mozilla's website.09:42
subitohello, is there a way for okular to search arabic words in a pdf document? i've tried and it finds nothing09:49
KelvariI'd suspect that that would depend on how the PDF was set up in the first place. If it's set as an image, I doubt you'd be able to find any phrases that you'd search for. If it's set up more like a text file, then you'd have better luck.09:51
monkill!nvidia09:51
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:51
lordganeshhow to schedule events in kubuntu09:51
lordganeshhow to schedule tasks in kubuntu09:51
monkillnow install air blue theme final last desktop 9.1009:55
monkillhelp me09:55
KelvariDoes anyone know how to fix DNS problems in Kubuntu Karmic?09:56
sinclair86you running a dns server or /etc/resolv.conf stuff?09:57
KelvariThis is after initial install with kubuntu-restricted-extras package installed. DNS is supposed to be handled by my router.09:57
sinclair86you know your the second person today that had issues aftert hat09:58
sinclair86cat /etc/resolv.conf09:58
sinclair86whats in there?09:58
sinclair86and09:58
sinclair86cat /etc/network/interfaces09:58
Kelvarigive me 1 second and I'll tell you.09:58
Kelvariresolv.conf = # Generated by NetworkManager10:00
sinclair86thats it? no nameserver?10:00
Kelvariinterfaces = auto lo (line 1) iface lo inet loopback (line 2)10:00
Kelvarino nameserver10:00
lordganeshif i want run ktorrent at 2:00 am automatically , how could i do it in kubuntu?10:00
monkillnow install air blue theme final last desktop 9.1010:01
monkill?10:01
sinclair86kelvari echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 >> /etc/resolv.conf assuming your network is 192.168.1.1/2410:02
sinclair86as for the interfaces file was that all that was in there?10:02
sinclair86whas the output of iwconfig10:03
KelvariWent in to add that line, and there's actually more to the resolv.conf than what it was showing me10:03
sinclair86domain and search and nameserver?10:03
Kelvari# Generated by NetworkManager (Line1) domain domain_not_set.invalid (line 2) search domain_not_set.invalid (Line 3) nameserver 192.168.1.1 (Line 4) nameserver 206.124.65.253 (Line 5)10:04
sinclair86kk tahts fine10:04
sinclair86is the interface actually up?10:04
sinclair86output of ifconfig?10:05
Kelvariwlan0 has inet addr:192.168.1.6410:05
KelvariThe interface is up, and I can get online10:06
sinclair86then whats the issue?10:06
KelvariI will try to go to a website, such as Google.com, and end up getting redirected to another website, such as bing.com or mozilla.com10:06
sinclair86someone hacked ur router?10:07
Kelvarinot as far as I am able to tell.10:07
Kelvariwireless is WPA encrypted10:08
Kelvariand remote administrtation is disabled.10:08
sinclair86what version of ubuntu you on?10:08
KelvariKubuntu 9.10 x8610:08
subitoKelvari: does it happen on other computers?10:08
sinclair86lol stupid me go figure ur in this chat10:08
KelvariOnly on computers that are running a Karmic release10:08
sinclair86how many do you have?10:09
KelvariI have 2 that are running Karmic - my laptop (Kubuntu), and my mother's computer (Ubuntu).10:09
sinclair86and are you kde 4.3?10:09
KelvariCorrect. All updates have been installed.10:09
tsimpsondoes it happen in multiple browsers?10:09
KelvariYes. It happens in both Konqueror and Firefox.10:09
subitoKelvari: and during a simple ping too, you said10:10
KelvariYes10:10
KelvariIn the past, it has acutally interfered with my ability to get updates, as well.10:10
tsimpsonso you type in "google.com" and get redirected to a new site? or does it show "google.com" but display another web page?10:11
tsimpson*show in the address bar10:11
KelvariThe URL will show http://www.google.com but I will be looking at either the Bing homepage or the Mozilla homepage, or some other site.10:11
subitoKelvari: are you connected using wifi or ethernet?10:11
KelvariThis has happened both with wi-fi and ethernet connections.10:11
tsimpsonthen it's something to do with your DNS server(s)10:11
tsimpsonor the DNS servers your router is using10:12
KelvariI have a machine running Windows 7 that does not have these problems, despite being connected to the same router.10:12
sinclair86yea and 206.124.65.253 is verizon dns.... you have fios?10:12
KelvariI wish... I'm actually still sub-megabit10:12
sinclair86but your provider is verizon correct?10:13
KelvariYes.10:13
subitoKelvari: have you tried cleaning your interfaces file and connecting without network manager?10:13
KelvariI have done a full format and reinstall of the OS, and have even had this problem from a LiveCD10:13
sinclair86he doesnt have anything in those files10:13
subitoKelvari: but have you tried connecting without networkmanager?10:14
sinclair86first 2 i asked to see was resolv and /network/interfaces10:14
tsimpsonif you type in "host www.google.com 192.168.1.1" into a shell, is it different from "host www.google.com 206.124.65.253"?10:14
KelvariI haven't tried that, tsimpson.10:14
tsimpsonif so, it's your router acting strangely, and windows may be favouring the public DNS rather than the private10:15
Kelvaritsimpson: There is a discrepency between the IP adddresses10:15
Kelvariusing 192.168.1.1, I get 209.85.225.x10:16
Kelvariusing 206.124.65.253 I get 64.233.169.x10:16
sinclair86block ur 192.168.1.110:16
sinclair86in resolv10:16
sinclair86209 != google10:17
tsimpsonboth are apparently google blocks10:17
tsimpson209.85.128.0 - 209.85.255.255 is owed by Google Inc10:17
tsimpson*owned10:17
sinclair86>_<10:17
tsimpsonas is 64.233.160.0 - 64.233.191.25510:17
KelvariI'm willing to listen to any other suggestions.10:19
lordganeshhow to do port forwarding in kubuntu10:21
KelvariOkay... I'm having the issue right now on my laptop. www.whois.net brought me to the Google.com homepage.10:21
tsimpsonlordganesh: you port forward with your router10:22
Kelvari192.168.1.1 reports IP 74.125.95.100; 206.14.65.253 reports 199.238.166.24510:22
tsimpsonthe latter seems correct10:23
lordganeshtsimpson: i m asking how to do that10:23
tsimpsonlordganesh: you use your routers admin interface10:24
Kelvaritsimpson: It looks like Sinclaire was right - my router is giving me bad DNS information.10:28
sinclair86wewt wewt10:29
Kelvari74.125.95.100 is Google's, and 199.238.166.245 is Whois.net's10:29
KelvariI guess Win7 was just relying on the external information, and Kubuntu the internal infrmation. I'll see what I can do to fix that, and hopefully have a good day of error-free browsing.10:30
tsimpsonKelvari: you should be able to override the DNS servers by adding the line "supersede domain-name-server 206.124.65.253" to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf10:30
KelvariI'm thinking of setting the Router to refer to either OpenDNS or Google DNS10:32
tsimpsonKelvari: you try that first, if all else fails then try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf10:32
KelvariWill do. Thank you for your time and help.10:32
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sinclair86tsimpson editting resolv.conf could do it as well too?10:33
tsimpsonsinclair86: resolv.conf is regenerated every time you connect to the network10:34
sinclair86... damn guess ive been doing it wrong this whole time lol10:34
monkill!root10:52
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:52
OpenSorcelol10:52
monkill!rootlogin10:52
monkill!loginroot10:53
monkill!login10:53
ubottuuse @login10:53
tsimpsonwhat are you looking for?10:53
monkill!help10:53
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:53
tsimpsonmonkill: what are you looking for?10:54
shadeslayermonkill: any problems?10:54
monkillnow sesson login root ?10:54
tsimpsonmonkill: "sudo -i"10:55
shadeslayermonkill: eh? there is no root password,use sudo before a  command10:55
tsimpson"sudo -i" will start a shell as the root user10:55
shadeslayer(sudo -s too :) )10:55
tsimpson-s just runs the shell, -i runs the login shell10:56
besitzerhilfe10:56
OpenSorcemonkill, lol, hence ubottu's first reply to you was accurate10:56
besitzerwer kann mir helfen10:57
tsimpson!de | besitzer10:57
ubottubesitzer: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:57
besitzeris doch kacke10:58
monkillAir final update (plasma theme)10:59
monkill  10:59
monkillPlasma Theme now install kubuntu karmic ?10:59
shadeslayermonkill: the default plasma theme is Air..11:01
monkillblack a now run blue air ?11:02
shadeslayermonkill: youre not a native english speaker?11:03
monkillsorry :(11:03
shadeslayermonkill: oh no problem we have loco channels as well11:03
shadeslayermonkill: which language do you speak?11:04
monkill:)11:04
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wesleyis it possible that on part of harddrive is damaged and other parts not?11:21
shadeslayerwesley: yeah11:22
shadeslayerwesley: one of my HD's 'tore' apart at one place and the rest of the platters were fine11:23
wesleybecause I have 500 gb of 931 in use, because on other 500 there is a part damaged11:23
shadeslayerwesley: you can try and fsck it and see if something comes up,i would suggest you get it replaced11:23
wesleyI have it replaced, but when I did it still wasnt broken11:24
wesleyso I wanted use it as external11:24
wesleyNow I have 500 gb at back in use, leaving 300 gb away11:24
shadeslayerwesley: so youre point is?11:25
wesleythat I can still use it, but I would like to know  exact where the damage is11:26
shadeslayerwesley: ah.. thats more problematic...  there was a app,i cant remember the name..11:26
wesleycan I see where it goes wrong? or just go create filesystems each 20gb and then see where I fail?11:27
shadeslayerwesley: im trying to find something :)11:28
Mamarokshadeslayer: fdisk11:29
shadeslayerMamarok: nope its testdisk11:30
shadeslayerwesley: try testdisk11:30
shadeslayerwesley: testdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool11:30
Mamarokshadeslayer: well, he needs to repair these anyway11:30
Mamarokwesley: also running SMART on it is a good idea, just to be sure it is not dying11:30
shadeslayerMamarok: he wants to know the exact areas of damage11:31
wesleyyes so I can use what is not damaged, its 1tb hd11:31
Mamarokthat doesn't really matter, you need to mark those sectors as damaged anway to avoid stuff is written to it11:31
wesleyI will not partition it11:31
Mamarokso it's pretty irrelevant where the damage is11:31
shadeslayerwesley: anyways itll eventually spread to other parts,so the whole disk will eventually die..11:31
wesleyreally? if I just use one part?11:32
Mamarokshadeslayer: that's why I say running smart to make sure the integrity is not ruined11:32
shadeslayeryeah thats a good option11:32
Mamarokwesley: is the disk integrity is rotten, then it will spread and kill the disk ultimately11:32
Mamarokwhich can happen quite fast, so running smart, then fix with fdisk if the disk is healthy is the best you can do11:33
shadeslayerwesley: also suppose the platter heads start colliding nasty stuff could happen11:33
Mamarokif smart tells you the disk has problems, get yourself a new one fast11:33
shadeslayeri.e if the disk platters are physically damaged11:33
wesleyI lready have a new one, I upgraded to ecodrive of 1,5 tb11:34
Mamarokwesley: well, then check tat faulty disk with smart11:34
Mamarok!smartz11:34
Mamarok!smart11:34
shadeslayer!info smart-notifier11:35
ubottusmart-notifier (source: smart-notifier): graphical hard disk health status notifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.28-1.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 11 kB, installed size 184 kB11:35
Cuddletauren!info moo11:35
ubottuPackage moo does not exist in karmic11:35
MamarokCuddletauren: behave11:36
Mamarokwesley: the package name is actually smartmontools11:36
wesleyI found it alreadu11:36
Mamarokshadeslayer: smart-notifier should not be used, since it runs a daemon11:36
Mamarokshadeslayer: which can, onver time, dammage the disk11:37
Mamarokover* time11:37
shadeslayerMamarok: oh i didnt know that... thats the only app i could find in the repos11:37
Mamarokshadeslayer, wesley: it is smartmontools, then run smartctl on the disk you want to test (unmounted, of course)11:38
wesleyit is unparted11:38
Mamarokunpartitioned you mean?11:39
shadeslayerwesley: the disk should probably be like : /dev/sda11:39
wesleyyes11:39
Mamarokwesley: well, it should at least have a partition to test11:39
wesleycan make it ntfs11:39
Mamarokelse there is no format on it11:39
Mamarokwesley: why? use ext3 or ext411:39
Mamarokunless you really *have* to use it with Windows, there is no reason to use ntfs11:40
wesleyext4 is where it failed to make a ext411:40
Mamarokthen use ext311:40
CuddletaurenMamarok: i insincerely apologize for the grave inconvienience caused by my learning-by-doing attitude11:41
MamarokCuddletauren: you can /msg ubottu to test then, don't do it in the channel11:41
Cuddletaureni wasn't testing anything11:42
Cuddletaureni was learning abou moo11:42
wesleyit will fail creating ext3 to11:42
shadeslayerCuddletauren: try : apt-get moo : in a terminal11:43
MamarokCuddletauren: which is nothing related to Kubuntu11:43
Mamarokshadeslayer: there's no such package11:43
Cuddletaureni did apt-get moo i wanted to learn about it11:43
shadeslayerMamarok: its a easteregg :P11:43
Cuddletaurenand kubuntu is what i run to achieve my apt-get moo success11:43
Mamarok*sigh* then do it in #kubuntu-offtopic, not in the support channel, please11:44
wesleyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/346421/  this what gparted has to say11:46
Mamarokwesley: which is not really helpful, could you translate, please?11:50
wesleynot really its to much to translate11:51
Mamarokwesley: according to google translate that went well, no?11:51
shadeslayerMamarok: line 3711:52
Mamarokit's says: writing inode table: completed at the end11:52
Mamarok"Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root"11:53
wesleyfunny things its half english and like just 2 dutch words11:53
Mamarokhm...11:53
CuddletaurenMamarok: i already did it, why would i need to do it again11:53
Mamarokwesley: I found that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=637361211:54
shadeslayerMamarok: doesnt it say : When Creating root11:54
Mamarokshadeslayer: see that link11:54
Mamarokthere are some rotten sectors on the disk, but it should be able to partition11:55
shadeslayerhmm...11:55
Mamarokshadeslayer: and I don't really care if it is when or while, that was google translate from Dutch :)11:55
wesleyI have last 500 gb already parted as ext311:56
shadeslayerMamarok: hehe...11:56
Mamarokwesley: try making a small 1 Gb partition at the start11:56
soeehi12:10
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lordganeshhow to assign shortcut to konsole terminal12:53
shadeslayerlordganesh: kde 4,4?12:53
lordganeshno 4.312:53
OpenSorcewow someone spoke!12:54
shadeslayerlordganesh: its in system settings > Input actions12:54
shadeslayerOpenSorce: no im just a bot :P12:54
OpenSorcelol12:55
soee;]12:55
shadeslayerbtw anyone know of packages of bangarang?12:56
OpenSorceMy bf was just commenting that the Ubuntu channel is more active than this one, he presumed it was because Ubuntu has more going on. I corrected him and said "No, Kubuntu just works."12:57
lordganeshshadeslayer: thanks12:57
shadeslayerlordganesh: no problems :)12:57
soeetrue, true it works if u fix few things :)12:57
OpenSorceAlthough to be fair I rarely use a wm at all12:58
lordganeshhow to schedule graphical tasks in cron12:58
shadeslayerlordganesh: i dont think you can do graphical tasks with crin,but i may be wrong12:59
shadeslayer*cron12:59
OpenSorceof course that whole conversation led to the old Gnome vs. KDE debate and ended when I showed him Linus' point of view on the subject :-P12:59
shadeslayerOpenSorce: #kubuntu-offtopic :)13:00
OpenSorceOh right.... sorry to break the silence13:01
* shadeslayer thinks silence is golden :P13:01
OpenSorceobviously13:01
Cuddletaurengnome is less problematic in my findings13:04
OpenSorceShh! You'll wake up that topic nazi guy!13:05
soeehehe :)13:05
MamarokOpenSorce: please see the topic13:09
OpenSorceI did.... a few hours ago when I entered, but thanks for pointing it out :-)13:10
lordganeshhow to install kubuntu from usb . i tried usb creator . it doesn't work13:41
Wolfcastlelordganesh: have you tried unetbootin?13:43
shadeslayerlordganesh: try unetbootin from windows/ubuntu13:43
shadeslayer!usb | lordganesh13:43
ubottulordganesh: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:43
Wolfcastletry unetbooting it's easy to use13:43
dagon2yup, unetbootin should do the trick13:45
Goliathhey13:45
Goliathcan i use the raster graphic system?13:46
Goliathwith kde13:46
da1l6hi13:57
Goliathda1l6: how may i assist you?13:57
da1l6I have kubuntu 9.10 and a strange problem: When the screen is locked i can't unlock it. The password is correct, it works for ssh login. Changed password it and unlock still doesn't work.13:58
da1l6I have no idea where to start looking.13:58
soeeda1l6: if u type password only black screen stays or the password field to?14:01
da1l6i type the password in the unlock dialog, press enter and it tells me that it can't unlock.14:01
luizhello! can someone help me with a problem?14:05
soeeluiz: what problem ?14:05
Goliathluiz: dont ask to ask. just ask!14:05
da1l6Ha! Found it! The owner group of /etc/shadow was root not shadow! Now unlock works. :)14:06
Cuddletaureni'm sure some of us would appreciate his asking permission first14:06
luizI updated ubuntu to version 9.10 and kde does not work anymore14:06
OpenSorceGoliath.... aren't you the guy that was just looking for Mr. Torvalds in ##linux?14:08
GoliathMr.Tenenbaum you mean14:09
Goliathor at least Mr.Stallman14:09
soeeluiz: kde doesnt start?14:09
luizhow can I reset KDE settings to default?14:09
OpenSorceoh wait, this is #kubuntu no talking in here or they yell at you14:09
luizit loads all the modules, except the last, represented by the logo K14:10
Wolfcastlelol14:11
luizin this moment, i go back to the login screen14:12
OpenSorcelulz, you may want to close the KDM (the login screen) and try running X from the CLI (startx)14:13
luizi already tried startx. the splash screen is shown and the same problem occours14:14
Wolfcastlewhat is the output when running startx?14:15
luizthere's no output14:15
Wolfcastlethat's strange14:16
oziHello14:16
Wolfcastlehello ozi14:16
oziNew in Linux14:17
ozi:D14:17
luizit begins when I upgraded my Ubuntu version from 9.04 to 9.1014:17
ozimmm14:17
ozilistening :D14:17
Wolfcastletry looking in google how to reset kde...I think you can just delete the .kde directory14:18
Wolfcastleso is it working out for you ozi?14:18
ozimy Kubuntu Normaly14:18
ozigreats14:18
luizozi: what version?14:18
ozi9.1014:18
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Omar87Hi all.14:19
luizIf I just delete .kde directory, can it bring some problem?14:19
luizOmar87: hi14:19
luizozi: what is your KDE version?14:20
ozi4.3.214:20
ozistandart Karmic14:21
Wolfcastleluiz: possibly, try google for information regarding that14:21
Omar87I have just upgraded to KDE 4.4, but when I rebooted, Plasma crashed and I all I can see is a black screen.14:21
Omar87However, I can see windows, but no desktop at all.14:21
soeeOmar87: try to logout and login again14:21
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luizWolfcastle: thanks. I'll look for it14:21
ozitry google for restore previous sesion14:21
soeeOmar87: CTRL+ALT+del14:22
soeethan logout and login14:22
Omar87soee: okay, I brb. But is there a command I can use for that?14:22
oziyup14:22
morganOmar87: From a terminal run plasma-desktop. Also I had a problem on a laptop after upgrade, I had to manually kill plasma-netbook as it was blocking my desktop.14:23
luizWolfcastle: where is located .kde directory?14:24
Wolfcastleluiz: in your home directory14:25
luizthanks!14:25
Wolfcastleno problem14:25
ozianyone can help installing yahoo mesengger 9.0 linux ?14:26
ozi:D14:26
GoliathHey14:26
Goliathdoes kubuntu use its own patches for kde?14:26
OpenSorcelol, Goliath weren't all "How may I assist you" in here a minute ago like an op or something? And you don't know if Kubuntu even uses it's own patches?14:28
ozii will listening for while :D14:30
luizWolfcastle: i ran 'rm -rf .kde' in my home directory14:31
luizWolfcastle: now i will restart session, trying KDE14:32
Wolfcastleok good luck14:32
luizWolfcastle: thcnk you!14:32
luizthank*14:32
Goliathreally does kubuntu use its own kde patches?14:33
oziAnyone can help capture window when is rotaing cube14:34
ozi?14:34
ozirotating14:34
Malin_how do I get the facebook widget to work properly? It gives me an error about not finding the facebook package requried for the facebook widghet14:40
Malin_widget14:40
Malin_I wonder wich packages I haven't installed, and why not the "add widget" installes nesecarry packages14:41
luizWolfcastle: startx return a error14:42
abhi_hello all14:42
Wolfcastleok what error?14:42
abhi_merry christmas14:42
luizWolfcastle: "Fatal server error. Server is already active for display 0"14:43
abhi_i hav an question14:43
Wolfcastleluiz: ok isn't kdm already running thenho ho h+14:43
abhi_is there any way to stop recent document listing in kubuntu?14:44
Wolfcastlesorry14:44
abhi_i can do it in ubuntu14:44
abhi_but dont know how to do  it in kubuntu14:44
luizWolfcaslte: i didn't undesrtand14:44
luizWolfcastle: i didn't undesrtand14:45
Wolfcastleluiz: sounds like kdm is already running14:45
luizWolfcastle: do you know what I have to do?14:45
abhi_how to stop recent documents listing under kubuntu?14:46
Wolfcastleluiz: try running sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart14:46
abhi_is there any way to do it?14:47
luizWolfcastle: may I exit from this session or can I do it right now?14:47
Wolfcastleyou can do it right now14:48
luizok14:48
paineshi14:50
Wolfcastlehello14:50
paineshow do I add media devices to amarok2 in 9.10 kubuntu ? internet search hasn't been very helpful14:50
painesoh yeah. and happy xmas to everyone14:50
Wolfcastlemerry xmas14:52
petsoundsany recommendations for a comfort and affordable keyboard for office use?14:54
luizWolfcastle: I restated my PC, in recovery mode, ran startx but GNOME started14:56
luizWolfcastle: should I run startkde?14:56
Wolfcastletry startkde or kdm14:57
luizok14:57
Cuddletaureni think he'd be wise to invest in a terminal irc client14:58
LinexHello15:05
luizWolfcastle: kdm starts and login screen is shown. I log in and kde still not load15:05
LinexAnyone here using krfb ?15:05
soeeluiz: what kde verion u have ?15:06
luiznow I am with 4.4 beta 215:07
luizsoee: but the problem begins when I was with 4.315:07
luizsoee: it's the same problem that I have with chakra15:08
luizsoee: now I think it's a hardware problem15:08
soeeluiz: probably15:08
luizbut yesterday it was working perfectly15:09
soeeluiz: u have both gnome and kde installed ?15:09
luizsoee: yes15:09
luizsoee: I am in GNOME right now15:10
soeewell tbh i never used both in my system15:10
soeeso its hard for me to say if it has anything to do with this, but prolly no15:11
luizsoee: I understand..15:11
luizsoee: I don't know what to do now15:12
luizsoee: maybe I use GNOME for while.15:12
luizsoee: the KDE apps works perfectly in gnome15:13
soeeluiz: well if u want, i was using it last few months but now when i switched to KDE i now i wont go back to gnome :)15:13
luizsoee: I prefeer KDE15:14
soeeluiz: if you have extra partition for /home directory maybe try to reinstall system - only kubuntu15:15
luizsoee: can I do it in a windows partition?15:15
luizsoee: will I lost my programs?15:16
soeewell if u change partition format, u cant install system on ntfs or fat15:16
soeeluiz: yes u will have to install them again15:16
luizsoee: mmm15:17
petsounds!purekde15:17
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »15:17
petsounds!puregnome15:17
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal15:17
soeeinstalling programs isnt so hard15:17
luizsoee: maybe I do it..15:19
soeeluiz: if u do, remeber to create extra partition for /home, than u can reinstall system whenever u want and ur files will stay in your home directory if u dont format this partition15:20
luizsoee: thanks!15:21
Raszyn_urlop_od_luiz or you can copy all filders begining at dot (.xxx) from /home15:23
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BluesKajMerry Christamas To All ! :>)15:29
petsoundsBluesKaj, merry christmas to you and your family15:31
TysekbluesKaj thx U215:31
TysekY215:32
BluesKajpetsounds, thanks15:32
BluesKajTysek :)15:32
* BluesKaj adds a little baileys to the morning coffee15:33
petsoundsno daily walk today? :D15:33
BluesKajlater, in about an hr15:33
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Tysekpetsounds it's reining today :( bbadly weather15:37
petsoundsTysek, i see bad weather in poland :)15:39
Tysekpetsounds, after 24 h. of eating I fell terribly15:41
gpKarmic Koala sucks15:42
petsoundsi'm not celebrating christmas so i don't eat much :)15:42
Tysekgp why?15:44
Tysekpetsounds - for my ist chanse to see with famyly (parents) lot's of food is tradition15:46
Tysekusualy I go to walk after dinner15:46
gpKarmic Koala sucks15:48
Fanfaregp: WHY?15:48
gpjust updraded from 8:10  and its not able get resolution15:49
Tysekgp give us more information about your hardware15:49
Tysekit was a usuali instalation or update ?15:49
gphttp://pastebin.com/m1364d76b15:51
gpupdate15:52
gphttp://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12867_na/12867_na.HTML15:55
gpi dont understand why its not working now15:55
gpmust be some bug15:56
Fanfaregp: not familiar with Matrox, but did u try to get a proper screen without xorg.conf?15:57
gp but did u try to get a proper screen without xorg.conf? ->> what exaclty you mean this statement15:58
gpdelete xorg.con and then try ?15:59
gpsomething like that or what ?15:59
Fanfaregp: better move it to something like xorg.conf_back15:59
Tysekgp or u try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg15:59
BluesKaj!matrox15:59
BluesKaj!nvidia16:00
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:00
BluesKajgp, check this out first then come back if you can't solve your problem For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:01
gpsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ->> tried this atleasrtr 50 times16:01
BluesKajforget the xorg.conf file it's an afterthought in 9.10 , the kernel source driver is more important than xorg.conf16:02
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dasKreeChbainco: Hello16:07
dasKreeCh!it16:07
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:07
visheshAnyone knows where the Bluetooth hci configuration files lies? It's supposed to be in /etc/bluetooth/hci.conf, but it's not there. It's a know bug apparently.16:16
visheshSorry, it's supposed to be in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf ..16:17
visheshKBluetooth manages to pair bluetooth devices perfectly, but how does it do it without this file?16:17
dasKreeChvishesh: udev16:20
visheshdasKreeCh: You think it would be possible for you to elaborate a little bit? Please. /etc/udev/ has only 1 files udev.conf and a rules.d folder16:50
visheshdasKreeCh: And apparently the /lib/udev/rules.d/97-bluetooth.rules files doesn't really do much, apart from starting the bluetoothd daemon whenever any bluetooth device is added.16:52
dasKreeChvishesh: what are you trying to figure out?17:06
visheshdasKreeCh: I'm trying to figure out where the hcid configuration lies. No practical use - just so I know. KBluetooth manages to pair devices perfectly, and that info is supposed to be stored in hcid.conf. So, I've been wondering how it does it. I even downloaded the source code, but that just used the Solid Framework.17:08
oziim back :D17:09
visheshdasKreeCh: Any idea?17:11
ozihow about installing yahoo mesengger in Kubuntu ??17:12
oziym 9.017:12
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ozianyone here ?17:17
petsoundsozi, you have kopete :)17:22
ozii have kopete17:22
ozipidgin17:22
ozibut im use gyachE17:22
ozilook like YM17:22
ozibut not perfect17:23
ozi:(17:23
petsoundsand why do you want to install YM?17:23
ozi99% my work17:23
ozion ym17:23
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oziMy employees can not use kopete pidgin or gyachE17:24
visheshozi: Why not just use Pidgin or kopete. It doesn't matter what your employees use, the end result will be the same.17:25
ozihe he17:25
visheshUnless, you use Photo sharing or some other feature of Yahoo Messenger. I think Pidin even supports voice & video chat.17:26
petsoundsto my knowledge ym is a protocol so every apps support that protocol will be compatible, unless you want to use webcam17:26
oziyup17:26
oziemotion17:26
visheshI'm not too sure about Koepete. You want to use a webcam?17:26
ozimaybe 1 reason17:26
petsoundsnowadays ppl tend to use skype, and it works fine with my ubuntu17:27
ozii have skype17:27
visheshUhm .. Okay. I'm not that great at explaining stuff, but I'll try. My gf was confused about the same thing. Emoticons are just normal "text". Example a color with a dash and a right parenthesis make a smile. :-)17:28
dasKreeChvishesh: ok I thik that the solid configuration might keep the pairs and pss it in on lieu of a hcid.conf17:28
dasKreeChozi: Hello17:28
oziyes17:28
ozimmm17:28
dasKreeChozi: Yahoo messenger doesn't work under Linux right now17:28
visheshThere is no separate mechanism for transmitting emoticons. They are transferred as normal text and the client decides how to display them.17:29
dasKreeCh Yahoo has for all purposes stoppd supporting the linux versioj17:29
oziyup17:29
dasKreeCh Gyache supports almost all of the Yahoo 9 functions Photo sharing webcam etc17:29
dasKreeCh if you need more or Yahoo 10 then install Windows in a virtual machine17:29
ozivishesh: you mean just change her emotion17:30
petsoundsyahoo + microsoft = bing, and it's a bad news :(17:30
ozihahahaha17:30
ozivishesh: you mean just change her emotion ?17:30
dasKreeChozi: if you want Yahoo emoticons in Kopete they are there17:30
ozimmm17:30
ozilike good17:30
dasKreeCh!offtopic | petsounds17:30
ubottupetsounds: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!17:30
visheshozi : No, chuck it. I'm horrible at explaining stuff.17:30
petsoundsdasKreeCh, i think it's fine. no support question atm17:31
visheshdasKreeCh: Any idea where the Solid framework configuration files are? Btw .. I don't think you're right. Long explanation, but lets see.17:31
dasKreeChpetsounds: Just letting you know before you start a long discussion17:32
petsoundsdasKreeCh, i don't talk much! please back scroll i only answering question. please backscroll!17:32
dasKreeChvishesh: Are you using kdebluetooth?17:32
dasKreeChpetsounds: I'm not berating you :)17:33
visheshdasKreeCh: kBluetooth. Kdebluetooth is apparently depreciated.17:33
dasKreeChpetsounds: I'm just saying that if a statement like that leads to a long discussion then it's better to continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic17:34
dasKreeChpetsounds: For some reason mentioning microsoft sends some people onto this long discussion of morals and greed etc17:34
visheshdasKreeCh: I even use blueman at times. And thats the reason I think there has to be some seperate mech for pairing stuff.17:34
dasKreeChvishesh: Are there any config files in ~/.kde17:34
dasKreeChvishesh: I wouldn't doubt it the KDE and GNome teams don't work together on bluetooth stuff17:35
the_wavehello, everyone. i have isdn connection (using win xp right now) and i want to use it with my kubuntu netbook (lenovo ideapad). i use an external isdn modem, that connects to the laptop via usb. i tried to find manuals/howtos and things like this, but all of them don't care about usb-connected isdn modems. my modem is a "billion tiny usb isdn ta 128"17:35
visheshdasKreeCh: Hmm .. I'll try out something, and come back to you.17:36
the_wavewhen i connect it to the kubuntu laptop the log shows me that soemthing is happening but i dont know how to go on... also most information on isdn is outdated :/17:36
visheshdasKreeCh: Can't find any Bluetooth config files..17:36
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petsoundsdasKreeCh, i know what to do and what not to do! so stop pointing me talking off-topic!17:41
dasKreeChthe_wave: try kppp17:41
dasKreeChpetsounds: ok17:41
dasKreeChvishesh: what version are you using?17:42
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the_wavedasKreeCh: ok, i will give it a try, thank you for hint! :)... i will give you feedback asap17:44
dasKreeChthe_wave: ok17:48
the_wave_dasKreeCh: back...17:53
the_wave_dasKreeCh: there was no modem recognized17:54
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dasKreeChthe_wave2: Alright what have you looked at for documentation?17:55
KelvariI'm having DNS problems with Kubuntu Karmic18:00
dasKreeChKelvari: More information?18:00
KelvariI go to http://www.google.com and it takes me to the Adobe homepage.18:00
the_wave2dasKreeCh: i mainly looked ad ubuntu-sites but found out that this is for cards, and not for external usb modems, so i dumped it. all the other things i tried were for old versions of ubuntu and didnt work either. i checked my logfiles and found the expression "Billion tiny USB ISDN TA 128" so i entered it to google.18:01
the_wave2dasKreeCh: now i try http://trustusbta.sourceforge.net/18:01
KelvariIt happens with Firefox, Konqueror, and even ping18:02
dasKreeChthe_wave2: that's for the driver18:02
the_wave2dasKreeCh: hmmm, ok i see18:02
dasKreeChKelvari: What is the IP that ping returns ?18:02
the_wave2dasKreeCh: i am posting the log so u can have a look at it18:02
KelvariThe ping to google returns 74.125.95.103, but the problem is intermittent.18:03
the_wave2dasKreeCh: http://pastebin.com/d3a2ad9c18:05
dasKreeChKelvari: who is your DNS provider?18:08
KelvariI've currently got my router set up to use OpenDNS18:08
dasKreeChthe_wave2: So it detects it18:08
dasKreeChKelvari: 4.4.4.2 ?18:08
Kelvari208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 for the router's information18:09
KelvariThe computer shows 192.168.1.1 and 208.67.220.22018:09
dasKreeChwhere the first is the router obviously18:09
KelvariYes.18:09
the_wave2dasKreeCh: is think it detects something... the expression "Billion tiny USB ISDN TA 128" seems to be someting like a lable... so its just a string of letters... no practical information for linux... like the name of a pendirve...18:10
dasKreeChthe_wave2: Yes but the firmware is returning that so it has some kind of communication with it18:11
the_wave2dasKreeCh: you are right.18:11
the_wave2dasKreeCh: but kppp does not recognize it18:11
dasKreeChIs there a /dev/ppp ?18:12
coz_hey guys ,,, is there a site that has a list of default kde applications and the executable names?18:15
RoastedWhy does Kubuntu give me problems with keeping the resolution I set it to? It always defaults to the native resolution, which is fine, but my 22" inch monitor displays text so horribly that I set it to a different resolution, but Kubuntu just changes it to default each time I reboot.18:16
the_wave2dasKreeCh: hmmm... give me a sec, so i connect it to my kubuntu again, ok?18:16
coz_Roasted, isnt there a setting under System Settings for saving the current session?18:17
Roastedcoz_ - Hmm, I dont know? I just hit resolution, 1024x768, "apply" and reboot, and it changes it back each time I reboot. Was I missing a step?18:18
coz_Roasted,  looking on my kubuntu system  under system settings   advances  ..session management18:18
coz_Roasted, I believe  there is a  "restore previous session"  tick box18:19
RoastedOh, yes I know about this. Would that change the resolution too?? I thought it was just for open windows??18:19
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dasKreeChcoz_: KDE.org ?18:19
coz_Roasted,   as far as I know... and I am not up on all of kde for sure... this should save the session you are on and keep the resolution18:19
coz_dasKreeCh,  thanks I will check there18:20
Roastedcoz_ just another thing to fire out18:20
the_wave3dasKreeCh: i have... but it exists, no matter if the modem is connected or not18:20
coz_Roasted,  out of curiosity  ...whch video card>?18:20
Roastedcoz_ - if I reboot, and it comes back as native resolution when I had set it to 1024x768, if I go to system settings, then the SECOND I hit "display", the screen goes black and it instantly changes to 1024x768. So its like it knows I changed it, but its not restoring it until I go back to display.18:20
dasKreeChcoz_: Also I supsect depends on your definition of "default" KDE18:20
Roastedagain I dont have to CHANGE it. I just hit display and BLAM it goes back.18:21
Roastedcoz_ - Nvidia 9400GT, 185 drivers18:21
dasKreeChthe_wave3: Yeah I just figured that out as well same for /dev/idsn0 which I certainly dont' have18:21
the_wave3dasKreeCh: :)18:21
dasKreeChRoasted: I used to cheat for stuff like that. you may want to play with Hinting for the LCD Fonts18:21
coz_Roasted,  ok let me try it here to see if it does keep the resolution I set18:21
petsoundsRoasted, do you create nvidia-xconfig ?18:22
Roasteddaskreech - you mean in regard to my monitor being poor?18:22
Roastedpetsounds -  no,  I didnt create it personally.18:22
the_wave3dasKreeCh:do u speak german?18:22
petsoundsRoasted, then try to create it with sudo nvidia-xconfig and then kdesudo nvidia-settings18:23
Roastedpetsounds - well, I cant at the moment. The computers were gifts I just handed off to my brothers. I couldnt even BEGIN to pry them from them now. :P18:23
Roastedpetsounds, coz_ - I am trying this restore session/resolution thing with my kubuntu work laptop now to test ....18:24
coz_Roasted,  ok that didnt work on this system  however you were correct...after starting the session and then going into system settings  Display...it immediately sets it correctly but not when bootint up18:26
coz_Roasted,  I dont have an answer to this one  apparenlty.... I  am not up on all kde stuff at this point18:26
Roastedcoz_ you just tested it?18:26
coz_Roasted,  i did18:26
Roastedcoz_ did you set the restore session thing to start a new one each time? and then try it?18:26
dasKreeCh!de18:27
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.18:27
dasKreeChthe_wave3: nein!18:27
coz_Roasted,  well I set session to restore previous session  but it did not restore the resolution for me18:27
Roastedcoz_ yeah. I'm rebooting now. I set my laptop to start a new session each time and applied 800x600 as the resoliution. We'll see what happens when it boots up.......18:28
coz_Roasted,  that one sounds like it will probably work18:28
Roastedcoz_ we'll see uin about 12 seconds........18:28
Roastedlogin screen looks the same.........18:29
the_wave3ok i ll go back to it a nother time :(18:29
Roastednaw18:29
Roasteddidnt work18:29
coz_Roasted,   ok  damn18:29
Roastedback to 1280x80018:29
Roastedits no big deal, its just one of those like, REALLY? things18:29
coz_Roasted,  and you want this at which res?18:29
Roastedlike, its a fricken screen resolution.18:29
coz_Roasted,  which resolution do you want again?18:29
Roastedcoz_ I dont need anything changed on the laptop. Its just my 22 inch monitor on my workbench has trouble reading text @ 1680x1050 (its native rez)18:30
RoastedI forget what I normally keep the 22 at...18:30
coz_Roasted,  ok hold on18:30
dasKreeChRoasted: press alt+E on the login screen18:30
macomaybe you should change the DPI instead of the resolution?18:30
macoor make the fonts bigger18:30
dasKreeChWhen my computer starts up with the wrong Res I press that and it normally corrects it. Course I normally want as high a res as I can get so it's not a good comparison18:31
coz_Roasted,  have you played with nvidia-settings for this?18:31
Roastedmaco - that's an idea too. But even still, changing screen resolution isnt something that should be problematic. Now it's not about finding a "fix", its about finding out why in the world something sos imple is problematic.18:31
Roastedcoz_ no I havent. Perhaps I should.18:31
coz_Roasted,   kdesudo nvidia-settings   make the resolution changes and click to save to xconfig18:31
Roastedin fact yeah, maybe I should have done that originally, lol18:31
maco...its not had18:31
coz_Roasted,  you also may want to run nvidia-xconfig18:31
* dasKreeCh files it under X sucks18:31
macohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution18:32
maco*hard18:32
macojust do what that wiki page says to do for kdm18:32
Roastedcoz_ I dont think my laptop has a nvidia card.......18:32
Roastedcoz_ nvidia-settings isnt doing anything18:32
Roastedyeah its an intel card18:33
coz_Roasted,   oh  which card on laptop?    lspci | grep -i vga18:33
coz_ok18:33
coz_mmm18:33
coz_Roasted,    what does xrandr spit out?18:34
coz_Roasted,  at the top of that readout should be  minimim   current and maximum18:35
visheshdasKreeCh: You there?18:35
Roastedcoz_ battery just died....18:35
coz_ooooo18:35
Roastedcoz_ oh well, Ill deal with it later18:36
Roastedits just, something like this is just...... stupid..... to deal with18:36
Roastedscreen resolution shouldnt be so tricky18:36
RoastedIm sorry, linux or not, it shouldnt be18:36
coz_Roasted,  ok that link   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution  there are steps to change resolution via xrandr18:36
coz_Roasted,  generally it isnt this tricky   ... I can say on gnome   it works really well however... I dont often work on systems with intel video  so any of the possible work arounds are not apparent to me18:37
Roastedwell,  I assume I could get it working on the other desktops I worked on before, since they had nvidia cards18:37
Roastedbut its just like, if linux wants to be grandma-approved, how in the world do they expect granny to program a xorg file so she can get 800x600 text on her 24 inch monitor?18:38
Roastedits just like, come on now18:38
shadeslayerRoasted: theres a GUI way too18:38
Roastedshadeslayer - how?18:38
shadeslayerRoasted: i assume youre on KDE?18:38
Roastedyes18:38
KelvaridasKreeCh: Have set DNS on laptop's connection preferences to 4.2.2.2 and still have problems.18:39
shadeslayerRoasted: K > System settings > Display18:39
Roastedshadeslayer - yep18:39
coz_:)18:39
Roasteddo something for me18:39
Roastedchange your resolution, and reboot18:39
Roastedsee if it sticks18:39
FloodBotK1Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:39
coz_??18:39
Roasted3 computers I tested it on, not a single one stuck with the resolution. Went back to native when I rebooted.18:39
Roastedthat was directed towards shadeslayer18:40
coz_Roasted,  t his is  apparenlty something up with kubuntu but let me check somewhere else hols on18:40
ozivishesh: Tanks Alot :D18:40
shadeslayerRoasted: ah.. thats the problem,now i understand what my friend tried to say,he has the exact same problem :P18:40
ozikopete just install icon pacakge for yahoo :))18:40
Roastedshadeslayer - I was just ranting when you came in in regard ot this because a problem like this just shouldnt....... exist. ya know?18:40
visheshozi : You're welcome. :-)18:40
KelvariRoasted: I understand what you mean, in regards to Shade's problem.18:40
ozitanks very much18:41
shadeslayerRoasted: well the default behaviour is that it defaults to the best res18:41
Roastedshadeslayer - oh yeah, and that's understandable.18:41
shadeslayerRoasted: yeah,so if you need something tailored,you need to do some work :P18:41
dasKreeChvishesh: I'm here18:41
Roastedshadeslayer - I have a poor monitor that sucks at default resolution. Text is unreadable. What abuot me? I have to change the resolution after each reboot? Problems like this just shouldn't exist when the DE has been around for such a long time.18:41
visheshdasKreeCh: Oh. I tested it out. The GNOME and KDE bluetooth apps have some common way of knowing who is paired and who isn't. And no info seems to be stored in /etc/Bluetooth18:42
coz_Roasted,  I think the xrandr  options talked about on that link may help18:42
coz_Roasted,  would you pastebin.com your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  please18:42
dasKreeChKelvari: does this only happen for google.com ?18:43
RoastedI can't. The battery died on that laptop.18:43
coz_Roasted,  oh yeah sorry18:43
shadeslayerRoasted: well i think setting it  in XOrg should work18:43
RoastedI have the charger in the car, but Im in the middle of eating lunch, so uh :P18:43
KelvariNo. It's now happening for https://addons.mozilla.org, which is putting me on the Google.com homepage.18:43
coz_Roasted,   lunch is way more important :)18:43
shadeslayerRoasted: oh found another methid18:43
shadeslayer(if you use a nvidia GPU)18:44
dasKreeChvishesh: shouldn't it be ~/.bluetooth ?18:44
Roastedshadeslayer - yeah, I'm sure it is. It's just I feel as though Linux is pretty easy to use and the average user could adapt to it if need be. And seeing problems like this just completely crushes any positive "oh yeah you dont need to be a genius to use this" thing I ever said. :(18:44
coz_shaamanime,   intel for that machine18:44
shadeslayerRoasted: do you have a nvidia card?18:44
Roastedshadeslayer - 2 of the 3 systems I tested have nvidia, my laptop has intel18:44
dasKreeChKelvari: go to www.yahoo.com and see if that works18:44
Roastedall 3 did the same thing18:44
visheshdasKreeCh: I have blueman and kBluetooth installed. kBluetooth has a pairing mechanism while blueman doesn't. If you unpair it from the mobile. Blueman doesn't work, bu kbluetooth asks for it to get paired. That was the first thing I looked for .. :-(18:44
shadeslayerRoasted: ok in the nvidia settings set the res to whatever you want and click save to X config18:45
shadeslayerRoasted: for the intel im not sure what to do18:45
Roastedshadeslayer - yeahhhh :(18:45
dasKreeChvishesh: So if you pair it with kbluetooth can blueman use it?18:45
visheshdasKreeCh: Yup. But I have to initiate the request from my cell.18:46
shadeslayerRoasted: im pretty sure it can be accomplished in gnome but not in KDE18:47
dasKreeChvishesh: ok Hmm I remember something like this with MacOSX18:47
shadeslayer(gnome probably has better tools for this)18:47
Roastedshadeslayer - yeah18:48
RoastedI used gnome for about 5 years18:48
RoastedI only recently swithced to KDE18:48
visheshdasKreeCh: Wait. That doesn't necessarily mean they have a common storing place. Blueman tried to use connect to my cell, but my cell rejected it cause it wasn't paired. This means that blueman doesn't know anything about pairing .. I think.. damn.18:48
shadeslayerRoasted: you see KDE 4.x is still under heavy development,i suggest you file a upstream bug at bugs.kde.cgi18:48
visheshdasKreeCh: So, my inference in kinda wrong ..  maybe18:48
Roastedshadeslayer - I understand. But when I google something and it's a bug that's been around since the beginning of KDE's days, it's just like, wow really?18:49
shadeslayerRoasted: maybe nobody paid attention to this,maybe nobody followed up,lots of reason to reopen the bug report or comment on it18:49
RoastedIt's strange though, how selecting display kciks the resolution back18:49
shadeslayerRoasted: also maybe the reporter didnt follow up18:50
Roastedonce I reboot and it goes back to the old resolution, and I go to system settings - display, blam its back18:50
Roastedshadeslayer - yeah, I guess its possible. I just didnt expect to find this many hits about it on google. SOMEBODY has to know about this. :(18:50
shadeslayerRoasted: no its actually a problem with Xorg.conf.... its default behaviour is to select the best res for the PC18:50
Roastedshadeslayer - well, does ubuntu have this problem? (gnome)18:50
shadeslayerRoasted: maybe,maybe not, im not sure18:51
Roastedshadeslayer - so you dont think its KDE dependent?18:51
shadeslayerRoasted: well if gnome writes to xorg,its a kde problem,if not its both a kde and gnome problem18:51
Roastedwell, the thing is, if you use nvidia-settings, you're writing to xorg.18:52
shadeslayerRoasted: exactly18:52
RoastedI'll bet any money on the desktops here with vnidia cards that if I write to xorg, KDE will be fine.18:52
Roastedbuuuuuuut..... my intel lappy... :(18:52
shadeslayerRoasted: yep..18:52
shadeslayerRoasted: edit it by hand18:52
visheshdasKreeCh: I'm heading over to the blueZ website. Maybe they have some answers. I'll let you know.18:52
shadeslayerRoasted: you can read the wiki and set the res by yourself18:53
shadeslayer!res | Roasted18:53
ubottuRoasted: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution18:53
Roastedshadeslayer - it's weird. I'm a terminal junkie. But as part of my job, I alwyas do the hard work, the research, development, preparation, etc, and then I relay that information and teach other people about it.18:53
RoastedI work in a school district with technology. So I have to set the stuff up and teach epople how to use it in class.18:53
Roastedshadeslayer - so by nature, Im used to doing the dirty terminal work, but then I want there to be an easy to use gui or something for the end user to see, ya know.18:54
shadeslayerRoasted: i think thats a pretty good job :)18:54
Roastedso even though I know its possible to edit the xorg file, I look at it from the mind set of a basic user - how would they edit the xorg file? I can think of about 99% of people I talk to daily who would be like yeah eff this wheres my windows cd again?18:54
colton_I just got a new printer and am looking for linux device drivers (it only came with drivers for windows and mac). Where could I find them?18:54
shadeslayerRoasted: 99pc of those normal people wouldnt want a horrid res as 800x60018:55
shadeslayercolton_: there are no drivers for linux18:55
shadeslayercolton_: just plug it in and use it :P18:55
Roastedshadeslayer - youd be surprised. There's some uh.. how do I say this......18:55
Roastedshadeslayer - ........old.......... teachers at work ;)18:55
Roastedjust the other day someone asked me to change it. I changed it to 800x600 (the lowest) and she wanted the icons bigger yet.18:56
Roastedshadeslayer - however, this was also a student computer for 1st graders.18:56
shadeslayerRoasted: tell her to get better glasses or change her optician :P18:56
Roastedshadeslayer - well, little kids were using it too, she just wanted it changed so nobody had issues with it18:56
Roastedshadeslayer - my underlying point is, theres still a need to change resolution of systems, even if you "should" be using the native res for LCD monitors.18:57
shadeslayerhmm... i think plasma-netbook is the kind of thing youre looking for.. big icons18:57
KelvaridasKreeCh: sorry about the wait. Going to www.yahoo.com works, and now addons.mozilla.org works.18:57
Roastedshadeslayer - I havent used ATI in years. Does ATI have a control panel like nvidia does?18:57
shadeslayerRoasted: ATi has more problems than nvidia,thats what ive heard18:58
Roastedshadeslayer - Yeah, ATI has come a long way, but still trails behind nvidia in my opinion. I havent used them for a while though.18:58
shadeslayerRoasted: although feel free to ask...18:58
Roastedshadeslayer - I just wasnt sure if ATI had a control panel that could edit the xorg file the way nvidia does.18:58
Tm_Thi kids19:00
shadeslayerRoasted: google around,ask here... i have no idea :)19:00
shadeslayerTm_T: :D19:00
Roastedshadeslayer - it appears as if they do http://michaeleberhart.net/linux/ubuntu/8_10/ati_control.png19:01
RoastedI just wonder if it writes to xorg19:01
shirosaki.help19:02
shadeslayerRoasted: probably yes19:03
BluesKajRoasted, dunno about ati, but nvidia writes to xorg with the nvidia-xconfig command19:03
BluesKajerr generates an xorg.conf file if one isn't already written19:04
shadeslayerBluesKaj: we have discussed that :)19:05
Roastedit also writes to the xorg just by hitting "write to xorg" in the menu too19:06
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Pat_Benson_I have a old ATI card (x1950 Pro)and I have never seen any control panel settings working well that is .. there was a ATIcontrol center (?) before but that didn't work well or at all(this was in Intripid19:15
KelvariSorry - my computer couldn't find irc.freenodes.net19:16
Guest31984hello19:18
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rodiahello19:19
shadeslayerrodia: hi19:19
rodiahi: shadeslayer  where are you from ?19:20
shadeslayerrodia: why are you interested?19:20
rodiameat som people19:20
shadeslayerrodia: India..19:21
rodiameet people19:21
rodiawhit same interstings19:22
KelvariI would greatly appreciate it if I could get some help with my internet connection.19:26
BluesKajPat_Benson_, ATI is working on a linux driver that covers most of the pci cards and onboards out there ,..should be out in the next few months19:27
BluesKajKelvari, cable/dsl/eth0, or wifi ?19:28
KelvariBluesKaj: DSL using either eth0 or wifi19:29
BluesKajKelvari, network manager?19:33
dasKreeChKelvari: irc.ubuntu.com19:34
dasKreeChBluesKaj: He's having an issue where his DNS is returning the wrong IPs for lookups19:35
JaydenBluesKaj: it's me, Kelvari - connected belly-upped on the Linux laptop again.19:36
BluesKajJayden, oh, a laptop ok.. wicd works well if network manager doesn't cut it , especially on wifi ...no wpa2 available with nm . wicd provides options for all encryptions19:38
JaydenBluesKaj: This happens even with wired connection, and I run WPA, not WPA219:39
BluesKajJayden, broadcom ?19:39
JaydenBluesKaj: Atheros19:40
shadeslayerbbl19:40
BluesKajthere's an atheros driver available for linux afaik, Jayden ..installed ?19:41
JaydenBluesKaj: Wi-fi works out-of-the-box19:41
JaydenBluesKaj: driver=ath5k19:42
visheshdasKreeCh: Can't find anything. Giving up for now. Tired .. will be back tom. Ugh.19:44
apparlehey I am not getting a sleep option... how to enable it?19:46
BluesKajJayden, try opendns ... setup your gateway/router primary DNS 208.67.222.222, secondary DNS 208.67.220.220 ...see if that helps19:47
JaydenBluesKaj: Router is set up to use OpenDNS, still having severe issues.19:47
BluesKajJayden, sorry then it's beyond my scope :(19:48
apparleguys someone plz tell me how to put my computer to sleep... I can't find the option sleep nor suspend to RAM19:52
JaydenBluesKaj: Do you think trying Lucid Alpha might help?19:53
BluesKajapparle, use a hammer19:53
Wolfcastlehello19:53
WolfcastleI use kubuntu karmic19:53
apparleBluesKaj: LOL19:54
Wolfcastleand the battery status widget is showing no battery is present19:54
Wolfcastlevery often on starupt19:54
Wolfcastlewhen cleary I can verify it is19:54
Malin_I have an issue that it belives the ac power adapter is unpluged19:54
BluesKajJayden, I pinged your finall node ip and there wasn't any error19:54
JaydenBluesKaj: And, right now, I can't even ping to Google from my laptop19:55
BluesKajapparle, there seems to be an issue with powernowd etc on karmic19:55
apparleBluesKaj: I haven't tried it on Ubuntu.... is it kubuntu specific or karmic specific?19:56
BluesKajJayden, but the pc your using to speak to us ok ?19:56
BluesKajit's an issue with gnome and kde , apparle19:57
apparleBluesKaj: any workaround......link etc...19:57
BluesKajapparle, sorry dunno for sure , you could try the launchpad bug reports19:58
apparleBluesKaj: I didn't find anything useful by googling... could you help19:59
BluesKajapparle, not really , I just shut my machine down when I'm not going use it for a few hrs , even19:59
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apparleBluesKaj: np..... I'll search things thanks20:00
BluesKajapparle, there's some guys at #ubuntu who might be able to help , gnome seems to have the same problem, even more so20:01
apparleBluesKaj: k thanks20:02
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Wolfcastleare kubuntu bugs reported at the same pages as ubuntu bugs?20:03
apparleWolfcastle: yes20:04
Wolfcastlethanx20:04
apparleWolfcastle: bugs are related to individual packages20:04
Wolfcastlewhat package would the battery monitor be part of?20:05
Wolfcastleplasma?20:05
dasKreeChapparle: do you have acpi ?20:06
apparledasKreeCh: I think so.. but I am not sure ... where to check20:06
ai9371_hello20:07
apparledasKreeCh: if I have acpi what to do?20:11
apparle!pastebin20:11
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic20:11
apparledasKreeCh: just found in the MoBo manual.... ACPI is supported20:13
vbgunzhey can anybody read this?20:13
apparlevbgunz: yes20:13
sinclair86no20:13
apparledasKreeCh: will be back online in 5 min..20:14
vbgunzI am having an interesting issue. It appears I am connected here (konversation 4) and also in kopete. But konqueror and Firefox refuse to almost load any webpages at all. with those guys, it's as if I am offline. what can cause that?20:14
sinclair86dns20:15
sinclair86torrents20:15
vbgunzsinclair86: I was gonna guess that20:15
vbgunzI am using the google dns servers20:15
Wolfcastlewhat package should I file a bug against if i have a problem with a widget?20:16
sinclair86vbgunz are the pages not loading via browser? what about ping them?20:16
sinclair86where did you place googles dns servers... in your dhcp.conf or in your router?20:17
dasKreeChvbgunz: Maybe they are set to offline?20:19
dasKreeChWolfcastle: kdebase-workspace20:21
WolfcastledasKreeCh: thanx20:21
dasKreeChWolfcastle: assuming it's not something you installed yourself20:21
Wolfcastlenop nothing i installed by myself20:21
soeehi20:26
Wolfcastlehello20:26
BluesKajsinclair86, best to put it in the dns server settings in the router20:28
sinclair86not for me was trying to help that kid and was trying to figure out his setup20:29
BluesKajvbgunz, di you get that ? read above...and some advice, the google dns servers are clunky. I tried them for a while and got the same probs as you20:31
sinclair86awww... you made him leave20:36
BluesKajsinclair86, he's prolly changing to opendns :)20:37
BluesKajsinclair86, you're the one who called him a kid btw :)20:37
sinclair86eh speaking from exprience most of them are... besides anyone younger than me is a kid20:38
Mamaroksinclair86: how do you know?20:38
MamarokI know a lot of people asking for help here that are much older than you think20:39
sinclair86well when im 52 there arent too many people that i cant call kids20:39
macoyour parents?20:40
sinclair86exactly20:40
sinclair86they being one20:40
macoif my dad came in here he'd be older than you20:40
BluesKajI know that I'm one of the older guys around ... met only one guy older than I am and he was an old unix dude :)20:40
macobut the linux machine that went missing from his house ran debian, not kubuntu ;)20:40
sinclair86any of you guys play geas of war or cod?20:41
BluesKaj<---66 , but still kickin'20:41
sinclair86damn20:41
BluesKajI play drums not games :)20:42
sinclair86rock band drums... lol =P20:42
BluesKajnot all , some country as well20:42
ZoraelIt's not possible to bind (xmodmap) a single key to be another key + a modifier, is it? Like, to bind a multimedia key to be Ctrl+Tab?20:57
dasKreeChZorael: as far as I know you can quite easily21:16
apparleHello21:18
ZoraeldasKreeCh: Any idea how? I've tried to cheat xmodmap by telling it 'keycode 135 = Ctrl+Tab', and 'Ctrl-Tab' and other variations, but it rejects them.21:18
apparleWhen I Suspend to RAM the system sleeps but when I start again.... the screen just remains black.... although the processer fan starts again... where could be the problem21:19
apparleCould it be a problem with the video driver or something else?21:20
dasKreeChapparle: What Processor?21:20
dasKreeChapparle: that's possible21:20
apparledasKreeCh: Pentium D........standby works fine in WinXP21:20
dasKreeChZorael: Look at ainput actions or the Shortcuts in System settings21:21
dasKreeCh It's under keybaord21:21
dasKreeChapparle: I know but Linux isn't Windows21:21
apparledasKreeCh: so one thing confirm.... not a hardware problem...21:22
sharifHow to be able to find a form of bandwidth quota in ubuntu so i can limit speed while sharing Internet for users via Ubuntu Internet sharing machine ?21:22
apparle!ssh21:22
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)21:22
ZoraeldasKreeCh: No terminal environment-nonspecific solution?21:25
dasKreeChZorael: xmodmap would be it21:26
apparledasKreeCh: any help what to do... or how to locate where could be the problem21:27
ZoraeldasKreeCh: Right, not sure it supports sending modified keys, so I'll go with KDE's solution.21:27
Zoraelthanks.21:27
K350how to install all applications in systemsettings?21:29
sykewhere can I get -dbg packages for the KDE 4.3.3  that's in PPA?21:37
sykeI would really prefer not to build my own dbg packages from source, and I have several reproducible crashes to submit21:38
dasKreeChZorael: Xmod is of course for X if you want something for the terminal you may ned a nother solution21:41
dasKreeChapparle: I'd drop the Video card drivers to vesa and see if it still happend21:42
dasKreeChhappens21:42
apparledasKreeCh: how to do that?21:42
dasKreeChapparle: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf under Device put the line Driver "vesa"21:49
dasKreeChthen restart X21:49
dasKreeChyou can do that by logging out and pressing alt+E on the login menu21:50
apparledasKreeCh: but I don't have any xorg.conf21:51
dasKreeChapparle: >_>21:51
dasKreeChBluesKaj: can you help apparle make a xorg.conf with a driver vesa line?21:52
BluesKajdasKreeCh, with nvidia it's nvidia-xconfig , not sure about vesa21:53
BluesKajhang on lemme check something21:54
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apparledasKreeCh: will this be enough http://paste.ubuntu.com/346674/21:54
martijn_hi, i have installed daisy under opensuse, but i cannot get the panel on bottum there, see this=> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 do you have any idea how to fix this?21:56
BluesKajapparle, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg21:56
apparleBluesKaj: what is that supposed to do?21:57
fantihello! what is the ubuntu way to tell apt-get NOT to overwrite my custom compiled xorg-server package while running apt-get upgrade?21:58
BluesKajapparle, configure your xorgfile according to your hardware21:58
apparleBluesKaj: Actually I want to config xorg.conf to use vesa22:02
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Guest36156google22:17
sharifwhat do you mean by google ?22:25
zaphira13Guys i have a big problem, When i am sending files from pidgin the go really slow but in windows with msn they are really fast...why??? What can i do??22:57
sinclair86.23:08
zaphira13Guys i have a big problem, When i am sending files from pidgin the go really slow but in windows with msn they are really fast...why??? What can i do??23:13
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