[01:57] <pete_> hi all
[02:08] <running_rabbit07> Happy Holidays All! I recently installed Brasero on my Kubuntu machine and now I can't open any folders. I uninstalled Brasero, because the only reply I got to my thread, was to tell me I am supposed to use the Kubuntu program. Anyway, does anyone know what I have to do to get my folder opening capaabilities back? Thanx
[02:09] <pumba> what do you mean by saying "you can not open any folders"?
[02:11] <running_rabbit07> If I try to open a file, brasero tries to open it instead of Dolphin, after uninstalling brasero, I get a window saying brasero can't be found
[02:13] <running_rabbit07> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8555522#post8555522 is my UF thread where there is a screenshot of the brasero window that was popping up.
[02:19] <running_rabbit07> Am I going to hve to reinstall Kubuntu to fix the settings?
[03:01] <asobi> anyone know how to extract .z01, .z02 etc?
[03:07] <daskreech> What's the file type?
[03:10] <archnub> hi can anyone help me debug the issue im having with my hauppauge 1250 card?
[03:10] <archnub> its being autodetected correctly but spews out tveeprom 0-0050: Encountered bad packet header [ff]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom. message
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> hello
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> I'm having problems with knetworkmanager
[03:13] <Wolfcastle> sometimes on startup it shows me the available wifi connection but it doesn't try to connect when i click on it
[03:13] <Wolfcastle> only thing that fixes it is a restart of knetworkmanager
[03:22] <daskreech> THat's hauppage audio ?
[03:22] <daskreech> Wolfcastle: is there anything interesting about the network ?
[03:23] <Wolfcastle> daskreech: not really, protected with wpa2
[03:24]  * daskreech slowly backs off :)
[03:26] <archnub> no its a tv card
[03:29] <daskreech> archnub: ah right. I'd say hit up #mythtv they would have great knowledge of TV cards
[03:29] <archnub> i agree and i have googled every website about it for the last 2 days no luck
[03:30] <archnub> even recompiled the latest and greatest v4l-dvb drivers 4 times now, tried messing with insmod options, etc
[03:31] <Roasted> noob question - "user is not in sudoers file" how can I add a user to have sudo rights from within kuser management tool?
[03:36] <daskreech> Roasted: How much power would you like them to have?
[03:37] <Roasted> daskreech - I just needed them to have sudo power. But I figured it out. In kuser you have to addt hem to the "admin" group.
[03:37] <Roasted> I got confused becuase you see, I created a user named "administrator", so I had an administrator group there. So I added my new user to administrator thinking that was it, not realizing administrator was a "user group"
[03:37] <daskreech> Roasted: I was going to say if you wanted them to have the same power as the first user just add them to the admin group
[03:37] <Roasted> once I added him to "admin" I was good to go
[03:38] <daskreech> Roasted: Ah right
[03:38] <Roasted> gosh I hate last minute set ups. trying to get these done so I can put these darn computers under the tree! :P
[03:39] <daskreech> Roasted: if you give up then say the gift is 10 months of cost free support :)
[03:39] <Roasted> lol - thats the only downside with immediate family. The support is kind of pre-built in :P
[03:40] <Roasted> but hey, two new dual booting rigs for my HS/freshmanincollege brothers, theyll be happy
[03:40] <Roasted> if not I'll just do the brotherly thing - resort to violence
[03:41] <Roasted> hey if I add a new user as "admin" within kuser, would I be okay then to delete the first user I created on the system?
[03:42] <daskreech> Roasted: http://tinyurl.com/ydgtmj6
[03:43] <daskreech> Roasted: Why would you want to delete them?
[03:43] <Roasted> I gotta start doing that. Heck, just tonight I ended up troubleshooting a family members laptop with a virus at a family gathering :P
[03:43] <Roasted> daskreech - well by force of habit when I set up new systems, I add the user "administrator" just becuase its the common practice at work.
[03:44] <Roasted> daskreech - these systems are going to my brothers, curt and tyler, so I created a user account on each one to correspond with that username. But administrator is still there, and kind of useless now.
[03:44] <Roasted> I just wanted to see if I could nuke that account, leaving curt the only acct on his pc and tyler the only acct on his pc.
[03:44] <Roasted> but I didnt want to upset anything, permissions wise, if I do that. I wasnt sure if the first user MUST exist for all eternity on *nix boxes or what.
[03:46] <daskreech> Roasted: give administrator a bastard of a password and use the same password on all the computers. If they royally screw everything up you will have a backup user. Write down the details and keep it somewhere safe of course
[03:47] <Roasted> yeah, I can do that. BUT - COULD I delete adminstrator if I really wanted?
[03:47] <daskreech> yeah
[03:47] <daskreech> You'd regret it later :)
[03:47] <Roasted> how so
[03:49] <daskreech> cause at somepoint someone will change the password then sometime later they will screw everthng up then they will call you
[03:50] <Roasted> gotta love recovery console, man :P
[03:50] <daskreech> I had someone get annoyed that they had to keep typing sudo so they chowned / to themselves
[03:50] <Roasted> sudo useradd, reboot, log in as newly created user, even if the only user prior on the system was completely FUBAR'd
[03:50] <Roasted> lol
[03:50] <Roasted> thats awesome
[03:51] <daskreech> Yeah one of the things I need o putin my Linux class
[03:54] <daskreech> to put in
[03:54] <Roasted> yeah
[03:54] <Roasted> I hear that one
[03:56] <kubian> why do that when you can use sudo -i to give you a root session
[03:56] <daskreech> What do you have left to do?
[03:56] <Roasted> daskreech - what do you mean? on these systems Im doing?
[03:56] <daskreech> kubian: You'd be amazed at what the mind comes up with once they grasp the flexibilty of Linux without any background or history
[03:56] <daskreech> Roasted: Yes
[03:57] <Roasted> just gotta pull the data off my linux server
[03:57] <Roasted> daskreech - you see, my brothers run XP, so all of their stuff is there. I use 3rd party windows software to sync their documents to my samba server every night at 3 am.
[03:57] <Roasted> daskreech - so that way when their rig crashes, which has happened 3 times for poor curt (and oddly 0 times for tyler) I have a backup of their stuff.
[03:58] <Roasted> daskreech - Im just pulling last nights backup off (30 gig per) so their systems are AS ready to go as possible when they open them up tomorrow.
[03:58] <daskreech> cool
[04:17] <gp> merry chrismas
[04:18] <gp> hello I just updraded to karmic koala and its able to set the display resolution
[04:18] <gp> when i restarted it said ur booting low graphic mode and then was not able set my screen resolution
[04:19] <gp> it was working perfectly in kubuntu draper
[04:21] <gp> My system is Hp proliant ML110
[04:22] <gp> and Display is Sansung SyncMaster 940 BW -> 19 inch with 1400 X900 display
[04:22] <gp> is any body there ?
[04:23] <gp> helloooooooooooooo
[04:23] <gp> calling houston
[04:31] <gp> wtf
[04:31] <gp__> hello
[04:39] <Roasted> why is kubuntu so retarded with screen resolution
[04:41] <daskreech> gp__: hi
[04:41] <daskreech> gp__: What video card do you have?
[04:41] <gp__> hi
[04:41] <gp__> daskreech: intel
[04:42] <daskreech> Roasted: I find that if KDM doesn't register properly then screen resolution gets kinda borked
[04:42] <daskreech> gp__: Can You be more specific ?
[04:42] <gp__> how to findout
[04:42] <daskreech> sudo lshw -C Video
[04:43] <Roasted> daskreech - well I was just messing around with the resolution on this system. I forced it to 1024x768 just because. I rebooted. It comes up as 1680x1050.  Okay fine. But when I hit "display" in system settings its like, OHW AIT, NOW I REMEMBER and instantly reverts back to 1024x768. It's like, come on, it's a fricken resolution. Stay with what I say.
[04:44] <gp__> lspci -v  | grep vga
[04:44] <gp__> *-display UNCLAIMED
[04:44] <gp__>        description: VGA compatible controller
[04:44] <gp__>        product: MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1)
[04:44] <gp__>        vendor: Matrox Graphics, Inc.
[04:44] <FloodBotK1> gp__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <gp__>        physical id: 0
[04:46] <daskreech> JontheEchidna: ping
[04:46] <JontheEchidna> daskreech: pong
[04:47] <gp__> daskreech: its Matrox Graphics ...but it was working in previous version before upgrade
[04:47] <daskreech> JontheEchidna: Any explanation as to why I can't see kipiplugins from the beta ppa ?
[04:47] <JontheEchidna> can't see it?
[04:48] <daskreech> apt-cache policy kipi-plugins
[04:48] <daskreech> Candidate: 0.7.0-1ubuntu2
[04:48] <gp__> daskreech: what to do now
[04:48] <daskreech> 500 http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
[04:48] <daskreech> 500 http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages[A[A
[04:49] <daskreech> gp__: It's unclaimed. Hmm
[04:49] <daskreech> JontheEchidna: ^^^
[04:49]  * JontheEchidna shrugs
[04:52] <gp__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServersHp
[04:52] <gp__> its listed here
[04:56] <daskreech> gp__: Ok cool
[04:57] <daskreech> gp__: umm last updated two years ago
[04:57] <gp__> yeah :-(
[04:57] <daskreech> there is a possibilty that the drivers for that have been dropped
[04:57] <daskreech> Let me see if I can find out. What kernel do you have?
[04:57] <daskreech>  uname -r
[04:58] <gp__> 2.6.31-16-generic
[05:02] <daskreech> gp__: Seems to have a driver
[05:02] <gp__> do i have to enable it or something ?
[05:03] <daskreech> gp__: can you see if lsmod | grep mga shows anything ?
[05:05] <gp__> nopes :-(
[05:08] <daskreech> try sudo modprobe mga
[05:41] <gp__> daskreech: sudo modprobe mga returns nothing
[05:41] <gp__> daskreech: sorry abt late reply
[05:43] <daskreech> gp__: ok rerun the lsmod grep
[05:47] <gp__> daskreech: you mean lsmod | grep vga
[05:47] <gp__> ?
[05:49] <gp__> mga                    60156  0
[05:50] <gp__> lsmod | grep mga  mga                    60156  0 drm                   159584  1 mga
[05:52] <gp__> daskreech: what I have do do next ...restart x server ?
[05:52] <daskreech> gp__: yes
[05:53] <daskreech> gp__: No I think you can just change your res now though you may want to check if X is using the mga driver
[05:53] <gp__> crl + alt + backspace not working
[06:07] <daskreech> gp__: don't zap
[06:13] <slawcio> i have question (kubuntu - kde), how to set kmplayer (or how to set in kde) one instance opening kmaplyer's.. i don't want have 10 runned players but only one. like winamp :)
[06:17] <gp> daskreech: restarted x still same issue :-(
[06:18] <gp> my screen resolution should be 1400 X 900 but its at 1360 X 768
[06:20] <gp__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346290/  ->> my X.conf file
[06:27] <daskreech> gp__: oK
[06:27] <gp__> daskreech: here the complete information ->>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346292/
[06:32] <TL> problems here - while trying to open / mount ntfs drive.. "the enclosing drive for your volumeis locked"
[06:33] <TL> what now?
[06:34] <daskreech> IrcSystemError: try and put in the driver in the xorg.conf
[06:34] <daskreech> TL: The enclosing drive?
[06:34] <IrcSystemError> daskreech: how ?
[06:35] <TL> never mind it magically disappeared :)
[06:36] <TL> probably synaptic update
[06:36] <daskreech> ok
[06:40] <daskreech> IrcSystemError: in the Device Section add in Driver mga
[06:41] <IrcSystemError> daskreech: where to put driver name X.conf ?
[06:41] <IrcSystemError> oks thanks
[06:45] <IrcSystemError> daskreech: I have update X.conf as u told ->> pl check it here ->> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346302/
[06:47] <IrcSystemError> restarting x
[06:51] <slawcio> i have question (kubuntu - kde), how to set kmplayer (or how to set in kde) one instance opening kmaplyer's.. i don't want have 10 runned players but only one. like winamp :)
[06:53] <gp> daskreech: restarted x after adding driver in x.conf ...no effect
[06:53] <gp> daskreech:  pl help me
[06:54] <gp> i cant change the resolution
[06:54] <daskreech> slawcio: I think it's how you call it try %t instad of %u for the file type
[06:55] <slawcio> ok, how to set file type?
[06:55] <daskreech> gp: try sudo xrandr 0
[06:55] <daskreech> slawcio: In system settings or Konqueror settings file type
[06:56] <slawcio> i use dolphin :)
[06:56] <daskreech> slawcio: system settings then
[06:59] <gp> daskreech: did you mean  xrandr -q  ?
[07:00] <gp> http://pastebin.com/m4c3c5f1e
[07:01] <daskreech> gp: xrandr -s 0
[07:02] <gp> gives blank response
[07:03] <daskreech> gp: seems to think that 1360 x 768 is the highest you can go
[07:04] <gp> cant i force it to 1400 X 900 res
[07:04] <gp> my eyes are paining at this res
[07:04] <daskreech> gp: ha yes you can
[07:05] <slawcio> daskreech:
[07:05] <daskreech> Put the modelines in the xorg.conf
[07:05] <slawcio> defaut is: kmplayer -caption "%c" %i %U
[07:05] <slawcio> what I must add?
[07:05] <daskreech> slawcio: urk! I'm not that great at the file type code passing
[07:05] <daskreech> I think you change %U to something else
[07:06] <daskreech> slawcio: #kde might know better >_>
[07:07] <slawcio> you started helping me and you must finish it!
[07:10] <gp> daskreech: where to modline in monitor or screen section
[07:12] <daskreech> slawcio: :-)
[07:18] <daskreech> gp: monitor
[07:32] <vlad> привет всем
[07:33] <Mamarok> !ru | vlad
[07:33] <vlad> sssory
[07:51] <slawcio> daskreech: i using script "pkill -9 mplayer; kmplayer[...]" ;p
[07:51] <slawcio> now work
[08:00] <daskreech> slawcio: Umm ok
[08:03] <monkill> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
[08:16] <noaXess> so m wishes from switzerland..... merry christmas.. and all the best for 2010
[08:16] <noaXess> can someone, if you will :), look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/346338/
[08:17] <noaXess> have medibuntu and vdpau apt sources installed..
[08:17] <TheFuzzball> Happy Christmas!
[09:27] <neptunepink> Computer had to be euthanised because of malignant kernel threads, now a bunch of icon graphics are missing, and god-knows-what-else. Is there a way to have dpkg repair this?
[09:28] <Kelvari> I have been having problems with Kubuntu Karmic while surfing the web. Sometimes the website that loads - or at least tries to load - isn't the website that I'm trying to go to.
[09:29] <Kelvari> As one recent example, I tried to go to http://www.google.com, and wound up on the Bing search homepage.
[09:30] <Kelvari> This has happened with both wireless and wired connections, both using DHCP
[09:34] <Kelvari> Can anyone provide any suggestions on how to fix this problem, and keep it from happening in the future?
[09:39] <subito> Kelvari: wasn't there some typo in the address?
[09:40] <Kelvari> No, the address had been entered correctly.
[09:41] <Kelvari> Even doing a ping to the URL returned a response from the incorrect site and IP address.
[09:42] <Kelvari> Sometimes going to http://www.google.com would put me through to the Bing website, sometimes it would put me through to Mozilla's website.
[09:49] <subito> hello, is there a way for okular to search arabic words in a pdf document? i've tried and it finds nothing
[09:51] <Kelvari> I'd suspect that that would depend on how the PDF was set up in the first place. If it's set as an image, I doubt you'd be able to find any phrases that you'd search for. If it's set up more like a text file, then you'd have better luck.
[09:51] <monkill> !nvidia
[09:51] <lordganesh> how to schedule events in kubuntu
[09:51] <lordganesh> how to schedule tasks in kubuntu
[09:55] <monkill> now install air blue theme final last desktop 9.10
[09:55] <monkill> help me
[09:56] <Kelvari> Does anyone know how to fix DNS problems in Kubuntu Karmic?
[09:57] <sinclair86> you running a dns server or /etc/resolv.conf stuff?
[09:57] <Kelvari> This is after initial install with kubuntu-restricted-extras package installed. DNS is supposed to be handled by my router.
[09:58] <sinclair86> you know your the second person today that had issues aftert hat
[09:58] <sinclair86> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[09:58] <sinclair86> whats in there?
[09:58] <sinclair86> and
[09:58] <sinclair86> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[09:58] <Kelvari> give me 1 second and I'll tell you.
[10:00] <Kelvari> resolv.conf = # Generated by NetworkManager
[10:00] <sinclair86> thats it? no nameserver?
[10:00] <Kelvari> interfaces = auto lo (line 1) iface lo inet loopback (line 2)
[10:00] <Kelvari> no nameserver
[10:00] <lordganesh> if i want run ktorrent at 2:00 am automatically , how could i do it in kubuntu?
[10:01] <monkill> now install air blue theme final last desktop 9.10
[10:01] <monkill> ?
[10:02] <sinclair86> kelvari echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 >> /etc/resolv.conf assuming your network is 192.168.1.1/24
[10:02] <sinclair86> as for the interfaces file was that all that was in there?
[10:03] <sinclair86> whas the output of iwconfig
[10:03] <Kelvari> Went in to add that line, and there's actually more to the resolv.conf than what it was showing me
[10:03] <sinclair86> domain and search and nameserver?
[10:04] <Kelvari> # Generated by NetworkManager (Line1) domain domain_not_set.invalid (line 2) search domain_not_set.invalid (Line 3) nameserver 192.168.1.1 (Line 4) nameserver 206.124.65.253 (Line 5)
[10:04] <sinclair86> kk tahts fine
[10:04] <sinclair86> is the interface actually up?
[10:05] <sinclair86> output of ifconfig?
[10:05] <Kelvari> wlan0 has inet addr:192.168.1.64
[10:06] <Kelvari> The interface is up, and I can get online
[10:06] <sinclair86> then whats the issue?
[10:06] <Kelvari> I will try to go to a website, such as Google.com, and end up getting redirected to another website, such as bing.com or mozilla.com
[10:07] <sinclair86> someone hacked ur router?
[10:07] <Kelvari> not as far as I am able to tell.
[10:08] <Kelvari> wireless is WPA encrypted
[10:08] <Kelvari> and remote administrtation is disabled.
[10:08] <sinclair86> what version of ubuntu you on?
[10:08] <Kelvari> Kubuntu 9.10 x86
[10:08] <subito> Kelvari: does it happen on other computers?
[10:08] <sinclair86> lol stupid me go figure ur in this chat
[10:08] <Kelvari> Only on computers that are running a Karmic release
[10:09] <sinclair86> how many do you have?
[10:09] <Kelvari> I have 2 that are running Karmic - my laptop (Kubuntu), and my mother's computer (Ubuntu).
[10:09] <sinclair86> and are you kde 4.3?
[10:09] <Kelvari> Correct. All updates have been installed.
[10:09] <tsimpson> does it happen in multiple browsers?
[10:09] <Kelvari> Yes. It happens in both Konqueror and Firefox.
[10:10] <subito> Kelvari: and during a simple ping too, you said
[10:10] <Kelvari> Yes
[10:10] <Kelvari> In the past, it has acutally interfered with my ability to get updates, as well.
[10:11] <tsimpson> so you type in "google.com" and get redirected to a new site? or does it show "google.com" but display another web page?
[10:11] <tsimpson> *show in the address bar
[10:11] <Kelvari> The URL will show http://www.google.com but I will be looking at either the Bing homepage or the Mozilla homepage, or some other site.
[10:11] <subito> Kelvari: are you connected using wifi or ethernet?
[10:11] <Kelvari> This has happened both with wi-fi and ethernet connections.
[10:11] <tsimpson> then it's something to do with your DNS server(s)
[10:12] <tsimpson> or the DNS servers your router is using
[10:12] <Kelvari> I have a machine running Windows 7 that does not have these problems, despite being connected to the same router.
[10:12] <sinclair86> yea and 206.124.65.253 is verizon dns.... you have fios?
[10:12] <Kelvari> I wish... I'm actually still sub-megabit
[10:13] <sinclair86> but your provider is verizon correct?
[10:13] <Kelvari> Yes.
[10:13] <subito> Kelvari: have you tried cleaning your interfaces file and connecting without network manager?
[10:13] <Kelvari> I have done a full format and reinstall of the OS, and have even had this problem from a LiveCD
[10:13] <sinclair86> he doesnt have anything in those files
[10:14] <subito> Kelvari: but have you tried connecting without networkmanager?
[10:14] <sinclair86> first 2 i asked to see was resolv and /network/interfaces
[10:14] <tsimpson> if you type in "host www.google.com 192.168.1.1" into a shell, is it different from "host www.google.com 206.124.65.253"?
[10:14] <Kelvari> I haven't tried that, tsimpson.
[10:15] <tsimpson> if so, it's your router acting strangely, and windows may be favouring the public DNS rather than the private
[10:15] <Kelvari> tsimpson: There is a discrepency between the IP adddresses
[10:16] <Kelvari> using 192.168.1.1, I get 209.85.225.x
[10:16] <Kelvari> using 206.124.65.253 I get 64.233.169.x
[10:16] <sinclair86> block ur 192.168.1.1
[10:16] <sinclair86> in resolv
[10:17] <sinclair86> 209 != google
[10:17] <tsimpson> both are apparently google blocks
[10:17] <tsimpson> 209.85.128.0 - 209.85.255.255 is owed by Google Inc
[10:17] <tsimpson> *owned
[10:17] <sinclair86> >_<
[10:17] <tsimpson> as is 64.233.160.0 - 64.233.191.255
[10:19] <Kelvari> I'm willing to listen to any other suggestions.
[10:21] <lordganesh> how to do port forwarding in kubuntu
[10:21] <Kelvari> Okay... I'm having the issue right now on my laptop. www.whois.net brought me to the Google.com homepage.
[10:22] <tsimpson> lordganesh: you port forward with your router
[10:22] <Kelvari> 192.168.1.1 reports IP 74.125.95.100; 206.14.65.253 reports 199.238.166.245
[10:23] <tsimpson> the latter seems correct
[10:23] <lordganesh> tsimpson: i m asking how to do that
[10:24] <tsimpson> lordganesh: you use your routers admin interface
[10:28] <Kelvari> tsimpson: It looks like Sinclaire was right - my router is giving me bad DNS information.
[10:29] <sinclair86> wewt wewt
[10:29] <Kelvari> 74.125.95.100 is Google's, and 199.238.166.245 is Whois.net's
[10:30] <Kelvari> I guess Win7 was just relying on the external information, and Kubuntu the internal infrmation. I'll see what I can do to fix that, and hopefully have a good day of error-free browsing.
[10:30] <tsimpson> Kelvari: you should be able to override the DNS servers by adding the line "supersede domain-name-server 206.124.65.253" to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:32] <Kelvari> I'm thinking of setting the Router to refer to either OpenDNS or Google DNS
[10:32] <tsimpson> Kelvari: you try that first, if all else fails then try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:32] <Kelvari> Will do. Thank you for your time and help.
[10:33] <sinclair86> tsimpson editting resolv.conf could do it as well too?
[10:34] <tsimpson> sinclair86: resolv.conf is regenerated every time you connect to the network
[10:34] <sinclair86> ... damn guess ive been doing it wrong this whole time lol
[10:52] <monkill> !root
[10:52] <OpenSorce> lol
[10:52] <monkill> !rootlogin
[10:53] <monkill> !loginroot
[10:53] <monkill> !login
[10:53] <tsimpson> what are you looking for?
[10:53] <monkill> !help
[10:54] <tsimpson> monkill: what are you looking for?
[10:54] <shadeslayer> monkill: any problems?
[10:54] <monkill> now sesson login root ?
[10:55] <tsimpson> monkill: "sudo -i"
[10:55] <shadeslayer> monkill: eh? there is no root password,use sudo before a  command
[10:55] <tsimpson> "sudo -i" will start a shell as the root user
[10:55] <shadeslayer> (sudo -s too :) )
[10:56] <tsimpson> -s just runs the shell, -i runs the login shell
[10:56] <besitzer> hilfe
[10:56] <OpenSorce> monkill, lol, hence ubottu's first reply to you was accurate
[10:57] <besitzer> wer kann mir helfen
[10:57] <tsimpson> !de | besitzer
[10:58] <besitzer> is doch kacke
[10:59] <monkill> Air final update (plasma theme)
[10:59] <monkill>   
[10:59] <monkill> Plasma Theme now install kubuntu karmic ?
[11:01] <shadeslayer> monkill: the default plasma theme is Air..
[11:02] <monkill> black a now run blue air ?
[11:03] <shadeslayer> monkill: youre not a native english speaker?
[11:03] <monkill> sorry :(
[11:03] <shadeslayer> monkill: oh no problem we have loco channels as well
[11:04] <shadeslayer> monkill: which language do you speak?
[11:04] <monkill> :)
[11:21] <wesley> is it possible that on part of harddrive is damaged and other parts not?
[11:22] <shadeslayer> wesley: yeah
[11:23] <shadeslayer> wesley: one of my HD's 'tore' apart at one place and the rest of the platters were fine
[11:23] <wesley> because I have 500 gb of 931 in use, because on other 500 there is a part damaged
[11:23] <shadeslayer> wesley: you can try and fsck it and see if something comes up,i would suggest you get it replaced
[11:24] <wesley> I have it replaced, but when I did it still wasnt broken
[11:24] <wesley> so I wanted use it as external
[11:24] <wesley> Now I have 500 gb at back in use, leaving 300 gb away
[11:25] <shadeslayer> wesley: so youre point is?
[11:26] <wesley> that I can still use it, but I would like to know  exact where the damage is
[11:26] <shadeslayer> wesley: ah.. thats more problematic...  there was a app,i cant remember the name..
[11:27] <wesley> can I see where it goes wrong? or just go create filesystems each 20gb and then see where I fail?
[11:28] <shadeslayer> wesley: im trying to find something :)
[11:29] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: fdisk
[11:30] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: nope its testdisk
[11:30] <shadeslayer> wesley: try testdisk
[11:30] <shadeslayer> wesley: testdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool
[11:30] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, he needs to repair these anyway
[11:30] <Mamarok> wesley: also running SMART on it is a good idea, just to be sure it is not dying
[11:31] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: he wants to know the exact areas of damage
[11:31] <wesley> yes so I can use what is not damaged, its 1tb hd
[11:31] <Mamarok> that doesn't really matter, you need to mark those sectors as damaged anway to avoid stuff is written to it
[11:31] <wesley> I will not partition it
[11:31] <Mamarok> so it's pretty irrelevant where the damage is
[11:31] <shadeslayer> wesley: anyways itll eventually spread to other parts,so the whole disk will eventually die..
[11:32] <wesley> really? if I just use one part?
[11:32] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that's why I say running smart to make sure the integrity is not ruined
[11:32] <shadeslayer> yeah thats a good option
[11:32] <Mamarok> wesley: is the disk integrity is rotten, then it will spread and kill the disk ultimately
[11:33] <Mamarok> which can happen quite fast, so running smart, then fix with fdisk if the disk is healthy is the best you can do
[11:33] <shadeslayer> wesley: also suppose the platter heads start colliding nasty stuff could happen
[11:33] <Mamarok> if smart tells you the disk has problems, get yourself a new one fast
[11:33] <shadeslayer> i.e if the disk platters are physically damaged
[11:34] <wesley> I lready have a new one, I upgraded to ecodrive of 1,5 tb
[11:34] <Mamarok> wesley: well, then check tat faulty disk with smart
[11:34] <Mamarok> !smartz
[11:34] <Mamarok> !smart
[11:35] <shadeslayer> !info smart-notifier
[11:35] <Cuddletauren> !info moo
[11:36] <Mamarok> Cuddletauren: behave
[11:36] <Mamarok> wesley: the package name is actually smartmontools
[11:36] <wesley> I found it alreadu
[11:36] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: smart-notifier should not be used, since it runs a daemon
[11:37] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: which can, onver time, dammage the disk
[11:37] <Mamarok> over* time
[11:37] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: oh i didnt know that... thats the only app i could find in the repos
[11:38] <Mamarok> shadeslayer, wesley: it is smartmontools, then run smartctl on the disk you want to test (unmounted, of course)
[11:38] <wesley> it is unparted
[11:39] <Mamarok> unpartitioned you mean?
[11:39] <shadeslayer> wesley: the disk should probably be like : /dev/sda
[11:39] <wesley> yes
[11:39] <Mamarok> wesley: well, it should at least have a partition to test
[11:39] <wesley> can make it ntfs
[11:39] <Mamarok> else there is no format on it
[11:39] <Mamarok> wesley: why? use ext3 or ext4
[11:40] <Mamarok> unless you really *have* to use it with Windows, there is no reason to use ntfs
[11:40] <wesley> ext4 is where it failed to make a ext4
[11:40] <Mamarok> then use ext3
[11:41] <Cuddletauren> Mamarok: i insincerely apologize for the grave inconvienience caused by my learning-by-doing attitude
[11:41] <Mamarok> Cuddletauren: you can /msg ubottu to test then, don't do it in the channel
[11:42] <Cuddletauren> i wasn't testing anything
[11:42] <Cuddletauren> i was learning abou moo
[11:42] <wesley> it will fail creating ext3 to
[11:43] <shadeslayer> Cuddletauren: try : apt-get moo : in a terminal
[11:43] <Mamarok> Cuddletauren: which is nothing related to Kubuntu
[11:43] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: there's no such package
[11:43] <Cuddletauren> i did apt-get moo i wanted to learn about it
[11:43] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: its a easteregg :P
[11:43] <Cuddletauren> and kubuntu is what i run to achieve my apt-get moo success
[11:44] <Mamarok> *sigh* then do it in #kubuntu-offtopic, not in the support channel, please
[11:46] <wesley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346421/  this what gparted has to say
[11:50] <Mamarok> wesley: which is not really helpful, could you translate, please?
[11:51] <wesley> not really its to much to translate
[11:51] <Mamarok> wesley: according to google translate that went well, no?
[11:52] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: line 37
[11:52] <Mamarok> it's says: writing inode table: completed at the end
[11:53] <Mamarok> "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root"
[11:53] <wesley> funny things its half english and like just 2 dutch words
[11:53] <Mamarok> hm...
[11:53] <Cuddletauren> Mamarok: i already did it, why would i need to do it again
[11:54] <Mamarok> wesley: I found that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6373612
[11:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: doesnt it say : When Creating root
[11:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: see that link
[11:55] <Mamarok> there are some rotten sectors on the disk, but it should be able to partition
[11:55] <shadeslayer> hmm...
[11:55] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: and I don't really care if it is when or while, that was google translate from Dutch :)
[11:56] <wesley> I have last 500 gb already parted as ext3
[11:56] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hehe...
[11:56] <Mamarok> wesley: try making a small 1 Gb partition at the start
[12:10] <soee> hi
[12:53] <lordganesh> how to assign shortcut to konsole terminal
[12:53] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: kde 4,4?
[12:53] <lordganesh> no 4.3
[12:54] <OpenSorce> wow someone spoke!
[12:54] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: its in system settings > Input actions
[12:54] <shadeslayer> OpenSorce: no im just a bot :P
[12:55] <OpenSorce> lol
[12:55] <soee> ;]
[12:56] <shadeslayer> btw anyone know of packages of bangarang?
[12:57] <OpenSorce> My bf was just commenting that the Ubuntu channel is more active than this one, he presumed it was because Ubuntu has more going on. I corrected him and said "No, Kubuntu just works."
[12:57] <lordganesh> shadeslayer: thanks
[12:57] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: no problems :)
[12:57] <soee> true, true it works if u fix few things :)
[12:58] <OpenSorce> Although to be fair I rarely use a wm at all
[12:58] <lordganesh> how to schedule graphical tasks in cron
[12:59] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: i dont think you can do graphical tasks with crin,but i may be wrong
[12:59] <shadeslayer> *cron
[12:59] <OpenSorce> of course that whole conversation led to the old Gnome vs. KDE debate and ended when I showed him Linus' point of view on the subject :-P
[13:00] <shadeslayer> OpenSorce: #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[13:01] <OpenSorce> Oh right.... sorry to break the silence
[13:01]  * shadeslayer thinks silence is golden :P
[13:01] <OpenSorce> obviously
[13:04] <Cuddletauren> gnome is less problematic in my findings
[13:05] <OpenSorce> Shh! You'll wake up that topic nazi guy!
[13:05] <soee> hehe :)
[13:09] <Mamarok> OpenSorce: please see the topic
[13:10] <OpenSorce> I did.... a few hours ago when I entered, but thanks for pointing it out :-)
[13:41] <lordganesh> how to install kubuntu from usb . i tried usb creator . it doesn't work
[13:43] <Wolfcastle> lordganesh: have you tried unetbootin?
[13:43] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: try unetbootin from windows/ubuntu
[13:43] <shadeslayer> !usb | lordganesh
[13:43] <Wolfcastle> try unetbooting it's easy to use
[13:45] <dagon2> yup, unetbootin should do the trick
[13:45] <Goliath> hey
[13:46] <Goliath> can i use the raster graphic system?
[13:46] <Goliath> with kde
[13:57] <da1l6> hi
[13:57] <Goliath> da1l6: how may i assist you?
[13:58] <da1l6> I have kubuntu 9.10 and a strange problem: When the screen is locked i can't unlock it. The password is correct, it works for ssh login. Changed password it and unlock still doesn't work.
[13:58] <da1l6> I have no idea where to start looking.
[14:01] <soee> da1l6: if u type password only black screen stays or the password field to?
[14:01] <da1l6> i type the password in the unlock dialog, press enter and it tells me that it can't unlock.
[14:05] <luiz> hello! can someone help me with a problem?
[14:05] <soee> luiz: what problem ?
[14:05] <Goliath> luiz: dont ask to ask. just ask!
[14:06] <da1l6> Ha! Found it! The owner group of /etc/shadow was root not shadow! Now unlock works. :)
[14:06] <Cuddletauren> i'm sure some of us would appreciate his asking permission first
[14:06] <luiz> I updated ubuntu to version 9.10 and kde does not work anymore
[14:08] <OpenSorce> Goliath.... aren't you the guy that was just looking for Mr. Torvalds in ##linux?
[14:09] <Goliath> Mr.Tenenbaum you mean
[14:09] <Goliath> or at least Mr.Stallman
[14:09] <soee> luiz: kde doesnt start?
[14:09] <luiz> how can I reset KDE settings to default?
[14:09] <OpenSorce> oh wait, this is #kubuntu no talking in here or they yell at you
[14:10] <luiz> it loads all the modules, except the last, represented by the logo K
[14:11] <Wolfcastle> lol
[14:12] <luiz> in this moment, i go back to the login screen
[14:13] <OpenSorce> lulz, you may want to close the KDM (the login screen) and try running X from the CLI (startx)
[14:14] <luiz> i already tried startx. the splash screen is shown and the same problem occours
[14:15] <Wolfcastle> what is the output when running startx?
[14:15] <luiz> there's no output
[14:16] <Wolfcastle> that's strange
[14:16] <ozi> Hello
[14:16] <Wolfcastle> hello ozi
[14:17] <ozi> New in Linux
[14:17] <ozi> :D
[14:17] <luiz> it begins when I upgraded my Ubuntu version from 9.04 to 9.10
[14:17] <ozi> mmm
[14:17] <ozi> listening :D
[14:18] <Wolfcastle> try looking in google how to reset kde...I think you can just delete the .kde directory
[14:18] <Wolfcastle> so is it working out for you ozi?
[14:18] <ozi> my Kubuntu Normaly
[14:18] <ozi> greats
[14:18] <luiz> ozi: what version?
[14:18] <ozi> 9.10
[14:19] <Omar87> Hi all.
[14:19] <luiz> If I just delete .kde directory, can it bring some problem?
[14:19] <luiz> Omar87: hi
[14:20] <luiz> ozi: what is your KDE version?
[14:20] <ozi> 4.3.2
[14:21] <ozi> standart Karmic
[14:21] <Wolfcastle> luiz: possibly, try google for information regarding that
[14:21] <Omar87> I have just upgraded to KDE 4.4, but when I rebooted, Plasma crashed and I all I can see is a black screen.
[14:21] <Omar87> However, I can see windows, but no desktop at all.
[14:21] <soee> Omar87: try to logout and login again
[14:21] <luiz> Wolfcastle: thanks. I'll look for it
[14:21] <ozi> try google for restore previous sesion
[14:22] <soee> Omar87: CTRL+ALT+del
[14:22] <soee> than logout and login
[14:22] <Omar87> soee: okay, I brb. But is there a command I can use for that?
[14:22] <ozi> yup
[14:23] <morgan> Omar87: From a terminal run plasma-desktop. Also I had a problem on a laptop after upgrade, I had to manually kill plasma-netbook as it was blocking my desktop.
[14:24] <luiz> Wolfcastle: where is located .kde directory?
[14:25] <Wolfcastle> luiz: in your home directory
[14:25] <luiz> thanks!
[14:25] <Wolfcastle> no problem
[14:26] <ozi> anyone can help installing yahoo mesengger 9.0 linux ?
[14:26] <ozi> :D
[14:26] <Goliath> Hey
[14:26] <Goliath> does kubuntu use its own patches for kde?
[14:28] <OpenSorce> lol, Goliath weren't all "How may I assist you" in here a minute ago like an op or something? And you don't know if Kubuntu even uses it's own patches?
[14:30] <ozi> i will listening for while :D
[14:31] <luiz> Wolfcastle: i ran 'rm -rf .kde' in my home directory
[14:32] <luiz> Wolfcastle: now i will restart session, trying KDE
[14:32] <Wolfcastle> ok good luck
[14:32] <luiz> Wolfcastle: thcnk you!
[14:32] <luiz> thank*
[14:33] <Goliath> really does kubuntu use its own kde patches?
[14:34] <ozi> Anyone can help capture window when is rotaing cube
[14:34] <ozi> ?
[14:34] <ozi> rotating
[14:40] <Malin_> how do I get the facebook widget to work properly? It gives me an error about not finding the facebook package requried for the facebook widghet
[14:40] <Malin_> widget
[14:41] <Malin_> I wonder wich packages I haven't installed, and why not the "add widget" installes nesecarry packages
[14:42] <luiz> Wolfcastle: startx return a error
[14:42] <abhi_> hello all
[14:42] <Wolfcastle> ok what error?
[14:42] <abhi_> merry christmas
[14:43] <luiz> Wolfcastle: "Fatal server error. Server is already active for display 0"
[14:43] <abhi_> i hav an question
[14:43] <Wolfcastle> luiz: ok isn't kdm already running thenho ho h+
[14:44] <abhi_> is there any way to stop recent document listing in kubuntu?
[14:44] <Wolfcastle> sorry
[14:44] <abhi_> i can do it in ubuntu
[14:44] <abhi_> but dont know how to do  it in kubuntu
[14:44] <luiz> Wolfcaslte: i didn't undesrtand
[14:45] <luiz> Wolfcastle: i didn't undesrtand
[14:45] <Wolfcastle> luiz: sounds like kdm is already running
[14:45] <luiz> Wolfcastle: do you know what I have to do?
[14:46] <abhi_> how to stop recent documents listing under kubuntu?
[14:46] <Wolfcastle> luiz: try running sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[14:47] <abhi_> is there any way to do it?
[14:47] <luiz> Wolfcastle: may I exit from this session or can I do it right now?
[14:48] <Wolfcastle> you can do it right now
[14:48] <luiz> ok
[14:50] <paines> hi
[14:50] <Wolfcastle> hello
[14:50] <paines> how do I add media devices to amarok2 in 9.10 kubuntu ? internet search hasn't been very helpful
[14:50] <paines> oh yeah. and happy xmas to everyone
[14:52] <Wolfcastle> merry xmas
[14:54] <petsounds> any recommendations for a comfort and affordable keyboard for office use?
[14:56] <luiz> Wolfcastle: I restated my PC, in recovery mode, ran startx but GNOME started
[14:56] <luiz> Wolfcastle: should I run startkde?
[14:57] <Wolfcastle> try startkde or kdm
[14:57] <luiz> ok
[14:58] <Cuddletauren> i think he'd be wise to invest in a terminal irc client
[15:05] <Linex> Hello
[15:05] <luiz> Wolfcastle: kdm starts and login screen is shown. I log in and kde still not load
[15:05] <Linex> Anyone here using krfb ?
[15:06] <soee> luiz: what kde verion u have ?
[15:07] <luiz> now I am with 4.4 beta 2
[15:07] <luiz> soee: but the problem begins when I was with 4.3
[15:08] <luiz> soee: it's the same problem that I have with chakra
[15:08] <luiz> soee: now I think it's a hardware problem
[15:08] <soee> luiz: probably
[15:09] <luiz> but yesterday it was working perfectly
[15:09] <soee> luiz: u have both gnome and kde installed ?
[15:09] <luiz> soee: yes
[15:10] <luiz> soee: I am in GNOME right now
[15:10] <soee> well tbh i never used both in my system
[15:11] <soee> so its hard for me to say if it has anything to do with this, but prolly no
[15:11] <luiz> soee: I understand..
[15:12] <luiz> soee: I don't know what to do now
[15:12] <luiz> soee: maybe I use GNOME for while.
[15:13] <luiz> soee: the KDE apps works perfectly in gnome
[15:13] <soee> luiz: well if u want, i was using it last few months but now when i switched to KDE i now i wont go back to gnome :)
[15:14] <luiz> soee: I prefeer KDE
[15:15] <soee> luiz: if you have extra partition for /home directory maybe try to reinstall system - only kubuntu
[15:15] <luiz> soee: can I do it in a windows partition?
[15:16] <luiz> soee: will I lost my programs?
[15:16] <soee> well if u change partition format, u cant install system on ntfs or fat
[15:16] <soee> luiz: yes u will have to install them again
[15:17] <luiz> soee: mmm
[15:17] <petsounds> !purekde
[15:17] <petsounds> !puregnome
[15:17] <soee> installing programs isnt so hard
[15:19] <luiz> soee: maybe I do it..
[15:20] <soee> luiz: if u do, remeber to create extra partition for /home, than u can reinstall system whenever u want and ur files will stay in your home directory if u dont format this partition
[15:21] <luiz> soee: thanks!
[15:23] <Raszyn_urlop_od_> luiz or you can copy all filders begining at dot (.xxx) from /home
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Merry Christamas To All ! :>)
[15:31] <petsounds> BluesKaj, merry christmas to you and your family
[15:31] <Tysek> bluesKaj thx U2
[15:32] <Tysek> Y2
[15:32] <BluesKaj> petsounds, thanks
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Tysek :)
[15:33]  * BluesKaj adds a little baileys to the morning coffee
[15:33] <petsounds> no daily walk today? :D
[15:33] <BluesKaj> later, in about an hr
[15:37] <Tysek> petsounds it's reining today :( bbadly weather
[15:39] <petsounds> Tysek, i see bad weather in poland :)
[15:41] <Tysek> petsounds, after 24 h. of eating I fell terribly
[15:42] <gp> Karmic Koala sucks
[15:42] <petsounds> i'm not celebrating christmas so i don't eat much :)
[15:44] <Tysek> gp why?
[15:46] <Tysek> petsounds - for my ist chanse to see with famyly (parents) lot's of food is tradition
[15:46] <Tysek> usualy I go to walk after dinner
[15:48] <gp> Karmic Koala sucks
[15:48] <Fanfare> gp: WHY?
[15:49] <gp> just updraded from 8:10  and its not able get resolution
[15:49] <Tysek> gp give us more information about your hardware
[15:49] <Tysek> it was a usuali instalation or update ?
[15:51] <gp> http://pastebin.com/m1364d76b
[15:52] <gp> update
[15:55] <gp> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12867_na/12867_na.HTML
[15:55] <gp> i dont understand why its not working now
[15:56] <gp> must be some bug
[15:57] <Fanfare> gp: not familiar with Matrox, but did u try to get a proper screen without xorg.conf?
[15:58] <gp>  but did u try to get a proper screen without xorg.conf? ->> what exaclty you mean this statement
[15:59] <gp> delete xorg.con and then try ?
[15:59] <gp> something like that or what ?
[15:59] <Fanfare> gp: better move it to something like xorg.conf_back
[15:59] <Tysek> gp or u try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !matrox
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !nvidia
[16:01] <BluesKaj> gp, check this out first then come back if you can't solve your problem For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:01] <gp> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ->> tried this atleasrtr 50 times
[16:02] <BluesKaj> forget the xorg.conf file it's an afterthought in 9.10 , the kernel source driver is more important than xorg.conf
[16:06] <bainco> salve
[16:06] <bainco> ìlist
[16:06] <bainco> 1list
[16:06] <bainco> !list
[16:07] <dasKreeCh> bainco: Hello
[16:07] <dasKreeCh> !it
[16:16] <vishesh> Anyone knows where the Bluetooth hci configuration files lies? It's supposed to be in /etc/bluetooth/hci.conf, but it's not there. It's a know bug apparently.
[16:17] <vishesh> Sorry, it's supposed to be in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf ..
[16:17] <vishesh> KBluetooth manages to pair bluetooth devices perfectly, but how does it do it without this file?
[16:20] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: udev
[16:50] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: You think it would be possible for you to elaborate a little bit? Please. /etc/udev/ has only 1 files udev.conf and a rules.d folder
[16:52] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: And apparently the /lib/udev/rules.d/97-bluetooth.rules files doesn't really do much, apart from starting the bluetoothd daemon whenever any bluetooth device is added.
[17:06] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: what are you trying to figure out?
[17:08] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: I'm trying to figure out where the hcid configuration lies. No practical use - just so I know. KBluetooth manages to pair devices perfectly, and that info is supposed to be stored in hcid.conf. So, I've been wondering how it does it. I even downloaded the source code, but that just used the Solid Framework.
[17:09] <ozi> im back :D
[17:11] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Any idea?
[17:12] <ozi> how about installing yahoo mesengger in Kubuntu ??
[17:12] <ozi> ym 9.0
[17:17] <ozi> anyone here ?
[17:22] <petsounds> ozi, you have kopete :)
[17:22] <ozi> i have kopete
[17:22] <ozi> pidgin
[17:22] <ozi> but im use gyachE
[17:22] <ozi> look like YM
[17:23] <ozi> but not perfect
[17:23] <ozi> :(
[17:23] <petsounds> and why do you want to install YM?
[17:23] <ozi> 99% my work
[17:23] <ozi> on ym
[17:24] <ozi> My employees can not use kopete pidgin or gyachE
[17:25] <vishesh> ozi: Why not just use Pidgin or kopete. It doesn't matter what your employees use, the end result will be the same.
[17:25] <ozi> he he
[17:26] <vishesh> Unless, you use Photo sharing or some other feature of Yahoo Messenger. I think Pidin even supports voice & video chat.
[17:26] <petsounds> to my knowledge ym is a protocol so every apps support that protocol will be compatible, unless you want to use webcam
[17:26] <ozi> yup
[17:26] <ozi> emotion
[17:26] <vishesh> I'm not too sure about Koepete. You want to use a webcam?
[17:26] <ozi> maybe 1 reason
[17:27] <petsounds> nowadays ppl tend to use skype, and it works fine with my ubuntu
[17:27] <ozi> i have skype
[17:28] <vishesh> Uhm .. Okay. I'm not that great at explaining stuff, but I'll try. My gf was confused about the same thing. Emoticons are just normal "text". Example a color with a dash and a right parenthesis make a smile. :-)
[17:28] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: ok I thik that the solid configuration might keep the pairs and pss it in on lieu of a hcid.conf
[17:28] <dasKreeCh> ozi: Hello
[17:28] <ozi> yes
[17:28] <ozi> mmm
[17:28] <dasKreeCh> ozi: Yahoo messenger doesn't work under Linux right now
[17:29] <vishesh> There is no separate mechanism for transmitting emoticons. They are transferred as normal text and the client decides how to display them.
[17:29] <dasKreeCh>  Yahoo has for all purposes stoppd supporting the linux versioj
[17:29] <ozi> yup
[17:29] <dasKreeCh>  Gyache supports almost all of the Yahoo 9 functions Photo sharing webcam etc
[17:29] <dasKreeCh>  if you need more or Yahoo 10 then install Windows in a virtual machine
[17:30] <ozi> vishesh: you mean just change her emotion
[17:30] <petsounds> yahoo + microsoft = bing, and it's a bad news :(
[17:30] <ozi> hahahaha
[17:30] <ozi> vishesh: you mean just change her emotion ?
[17:30] <dasKreeCh> ozi: if you want Yahoo emoticons in Kopete they are there
[17:30] <ozi> mmm
[17:30] <ozi> like good
[17:30] <dasKreeCh> !offtopic | petsounds
[17:30] <vishesh> ozi : No, chuck it. I'm horrible at explaining stuff.
[17:31] <petsounds> dasKreeCh, i think it's fine. no support question atm
[17:31] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Any idea where the Solid framework configuration files are? Btw .. I don't think you're right. Long explanation, but lets see.
[17:32] <dasKreeCh> petsounds: Just letting you know before you start a long discussion
[17:32] <petsounds> dasKreeCh, i don't talk much! please back scroll i only answering question. please backscroll!
[17:32] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: Are you using kdebluetooth?
[17:33] <dasKreeCh> petsounds: I'm not berating you :)
[17:33] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: kBluetooth. Kdebluetooth is apparently depreciated.
[17:34] <dasKreeCh> petsounds: I'm just saying that if a statement like that leads to a long discussion then it's better to continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <dasKreeCh> petsounds: For some reason mentioning microsoft sends some people onto this long discussion of morals and greed etc
[17:34] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: I even use blueman at times. And thats the reason I think there has to be some seperate mech for pairing stuff.
[17:34] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: Are there any config files in ~/.kde
[17:35] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: I wouldn't doubt it the KDE and GNome teams don't work together on bluetooth stuff
[17:35] <the_wave> hello, everyone. i have isdn connection (using win xp right now) and i want to use it with my kubuntu netbook (lenovo ideapad). i use an external isdn modem, that connects to the laptop via usb. i tried to find manuals/howtos and things like this, but all of them don't care about usb-connected isdn modems. my modem is a "billion tiny usb isdn ta 128"
[17:36] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Hmm .. I'll try out something, and come back to you.
[17:36] <the_wave> when i connect it to the kubuntu laptop the log shows me that soemthing is happening but i dont know how to go on... also most information on isdn is outdated :/
[17:36] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Can't find any Bluetooth config files..
[17:41] <petsounds> dasKreeCh, i know what to do and what not to do! so stop pointing me talking off-topic!
[17:41] <dasKreeCh> the_wave: try kppp
[17:41] <dasKreeCh> petsounds: ok
[17:42] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: what version are you using?
[17:44] <the_wave> dasKreeCh: ok, i will give it a try, thank you for hint! :)... i will give you feedback asap
[17:48] <dasKreeCh> the_wave: ok
[17:53] <the_wave_> dasKreeCh: back...
[17:54] <the_wave_> dasKreeCh: there was no modem recognized
[17:55] <dasKreeCh> the_wave2: Alright what have you looked at for documentation?
[18:00] <Kelvari> I'm having DNS problems with Kubuntu Karmic
[18:00] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: More information?
[18:00] <Kelvari> I go to http://www.google.com and it takes me to the Adobe homepage.
[18:01] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: i mainly looked ad ubuntu-sites but found out that this is for cards, and not for external usb modems, so i dumped it. all the other things i tried were for old versions of ubuntu and didnt work either. i checked my logfiles and found the expression "Billion tiny USB ISDN TA 128" so i entered it to google.
[18:01] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: now i try http://trustusbta.sourceforge.net/
[18:02] <Kelvari> It happens with Firefox, Konqueror, and even ping
[18:02] <dasKreeCh> the_wave2: that's for the driver
[18:02] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: hmmm, ok i see
[18:02] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: What is the IP that ping returns ?
[18:02] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: i am posting the log so u can have a look at it
[18:03] <Kelvari> The ping to google returns 74.125.95.103, but the problem is intermittent.
[18:05] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: http://pastebin.com/d3a2ad9c
[18:08] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: who is your DNS provider?
[18:08] <Kelvari> I've currently got my router set up to use OpenDNS
[18:08] <dasKreeCh> the_wave2: So it detects it
[18:08] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: 4.4.4.2 ?
[18:09] <Kelvari> 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 for the router's information
[18:09] <Kelvari> The computer shows 192.168.1.1 and 208.67.220.220
[18:09] <dasKreeCh> where the first is the router obviously
[18:09] <Kelvari> Yes.
[18:10] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: is think it detects something... the expression "Billion tiny USB ISDN TA 128" seems to be someting like a lable... so its just a string of letters... no practical information for linux... like the name of a pendirve...
[18:11] <dasKreeCh> the_wave2: Yes but the firmware is returning that so it has some kind of communication with it
[18:11] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: you are right.
[18:11] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: but kppp does not recognize it
[18:12] <dasKreeCh> Is there a /dev/ppp ?
[18:15] <coz_> hey guys ,,, is there a site that has a list of default kde applications and the executable names?
[18:16] <Roasted> Why does Kubuntu give me problems with keeping the resolution I set it to? It always defaults to the native resolution, which is fine, but my 22" inch monitor displays text so horribly that I set it to a different resolution, but Kubuntu just changes it to default each time I reboot.
[18:16] <the_wave2> dasKreeCh: hmmm... give me a sec, so i connect it to my kubuntu again, ok?
[18:17] <coz_> Roasted, isnt there a setting under System Settings for saving the current session?
[18:18] <Roasted> coz_ - Hmm, I dont know? I just hit resolution, 1024x768, "apply" and reboot, and it changes it back each time I reboot. Was I missing a step?
[18:18] <coz_> Roasted,  looking on my kubuntu system  under system settings   advances  ..session management
[18:19] <coz_> Roasted, I believe  there is a  "restore previous session"  tick box
[18:19] <Roasted> Oh, yes I know about this. Would that change the resolution too?? I thought it was just for open windows??
[18:19] <dasKreeCh> coz_: KDE.org ?
[18:19] <coz_> Roasted,   as far as I know... and I am not up on all of kde for sure... this should save the session you are on and keep the resolution
[18:20] <coz_> dasKreeCh,  thanks I will check there
[18:20] <Roasted> coz_ just another thing to fire out
[18:20] <the_wave3> dasKreeCh: i have... but it exists, no matter if the modem is connected or not
[18:20] <coz_> Roasted,  out of curiosity  ...whch video card>?
[18:20] <Roasted> coz_ - if I reboot, and it comes back as native resolution when I had set it to 1024x768, if I go to system settings, then the SECOND I hit "display", the screen goes black and it instantly changes to 1024x768. So its like it knows I changed it, but its not restoring it until I go back to display.
[18:20] <dasKreeCh> coz_: Also I supsect depends on your definition of "default" KDE
[18:21] <Roasted> again I dont have to CHANGE it. I just hit display and BLAM it goes back.
[18:21] <Roasted> coz_ - Nvidia 9400GT, 185 drivers
[18:21] <dasKreeCh> the_wave3: Yeah I just figured that out as well same for /dev/idsn0 which I certainly dont' have
[18:21] <the_wave3> dasKreeCh: :)
[18:21] <dasKreeCh> Roasted: I used to cheat for stuff like that. you may want to play with Hinting for the LCD Fonts
[18:21] <coz_> Roasted,  ok let me try it here to see if it does keep the resolution I set
[18:22] <petsounds> Roasted, do you create nvidia-xconfig ?
[18:22] <Roasted> daskreech - you mean in regard to my monitor being poor?
[18:22] <Roasted> petsounds -  no,  I didnt create it personally.
[18:22] <the_wave3> dasKreeCh:do u speak german?
[18:23] <petsounds> Roasted, then try to create it with sudo nvidia-xconfig and then kdesudo nvidia-settings
[18:23] <Roasted> petsounds - well, I cant at the moment. The computers were gifts I just handed off to my brothers. I couldnt even BEGIN to pry them from them now. :P
[18:24] <Roasted> petsounds, coz_ - I am trying this restore session/resolution thing with my kubuntu work laptop now to test ....
[18:26] <coz_> Roasted,  ok that didnt work on this system  however you were correct...after starting the session and then going into system settings  Display...it immediately sets it correctly but not when bootint up
[18:26] <coz_> Roasted,  I dont have an answer to this one  apparenlty.... I  am not up on all kde stuff at this point
[18:26] <Roasted> coz_ you just tested it?
[18:26] <coz_> Roasted,  i did
[18:26] <Roasted> coz_ did you set the restore session thing to start a new one each time? and then try it?
[18:27] <dasKreeCh> !de
[18:27] <dasKreeCh> the_wave3: nein!
[18:27] <coz_> Roasted,  well I set session to restore previous session  but it did not restore the resolution for me
[18:28] <Roasted> coz_ yeah. I'm rebooting now. I set my laptop to start a new session each time and applied 800x600 as the resoliution. We'll see what happens when it boots up.......
[18:28] <coz_> Roasted,  that one sounds like it will probably work
[18:28] <Roasted> coz_ we'll see uin about 12 seconds........
[18:29] <Roasted> login screen looks the same.........
[18:29] <the_wave3> ok i ll go back to it a nother time :(
[18:29] <Roasted> naw
[18:29] <Roasted> didnt work
[18:29] <coz_> Roasted,   ok  damn
[18:29] <Roasted> back to 1280x800
[18:29] <Roasted> its no big deal, its just one of those like, REALLY? things
[18:29] <coz_> Roasted,  and you want this at which res?
[18:29] <Roasted> like, its a fricken screen resolution.
[18:29] <coz_> Roasted,  which resolution do you want again?
[18:30] <Roasted> coz_ I dont need anything changed on the laptop. Its just my 22 inch monitor on my workbench has trouble reading text @ 1680x1050 (its native rez)
[18:30] <Roasted> I forget what I normally keep the 22 at...
[18:30] <coz_> Roasted,  ok hold on
[18:30] <dasKreeCh> Roasted: press alt+E on the login screen
[18:30] <maco> maybe you should change the DPI instead of the resolution?
[18:30] <maco> or make the fonts bigger
[18:31] <dasKreeCh> When my computer starts up with the wrong Res I press that and it normally corrects it. Course I normally want as high a res as I can get so it's not a good comparison
[18:31] <coz_> Roasted,  have you played with nvidia-settings for this?
[18:31] <Roasted> maco - that's an idea too. But even still, changing screen resolution isnt something that should be problematic. Now it's not about finding a "fix", its about finding out why in the world something sos imple is problematic.
[18:31] <Roasted> coz_ no I havent. Perhaps I should.
[18:31] <coz_> Roasted,   kdesudo nvidia-settings   make the resolution changes and click to save to xconfig
[18:31] <Roasted> in fact yeah, maybe I should have done that originally, lol
[18:31] <maco> ...its not had
[18:31] <coz_> Roasted,  you also may want to run nvidia-xconfig
[18:31]  * dasKreeCh files it under X sucks
[18:32] <maco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:32] <maco> *hard
[18:32] <maco> just do what that wiki page says to do for kdm
[18:32] <Roasted> coz_ I dont think my laptop has a nvidia card.......
[18:32] <Roasted> coz_ nvidia-settings isnt doing anything
[18:33] <Roasted> yeah its an intel card
[18:33] <coz_> Roasted,   oh  which card on laptop?    lspci | grep -i vga
[18:33] <coz_> ok
[18:33] <coz_> mmm
[18:34] <coz_> Roasted,    what does xrandr spit out?
[18:35] <coz_> Roasted,  at the top of that readout should be  minimim   current and maximum
[18:35] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: You there?
[18:35] <Roasted> coz_ battery just died....
[18:35] <coz_> ooooo
[18:36] <Roasted> coz_ oh well, Ill deal with it later
[18:36] <Roasted> its just, something like this is just...... stupid..... to deal with
[18:36] <Roasted> screen resolution shouldnt be so tricky
[18:36] <Roasted> Im sorry, linux or not, it shouldnt be
[18:36] <coz_> Roasted,  ok that link   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution  there are steps to change resolution via xrandr
[18:37] <coz_> Roasted,  generally it isnt this tricky   ... I can say on gnome   it works really well however... I dont often work on systems with intel video  so any of the possible work arounds are not apparent to me
[18:37] <Roasted> well,  I assume I could get it working on the other desktops I worked on before, since they had nvidia cards
[18:38] <Roasted> but its just like, if linux wants to be grandma-approved, how in the world do they expect granny to program a xorg file so she can get 800x600 text on her 24 inch monitor?
[18:38] <Roasted> its just like, come on now
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Roasted: theres a GUI way too
[18:38] <Roasted> shadeslayer - how?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Roasted: i assume youre on KDE?
[18:38] <Roasted> yes
[18:39] <Kelvari> dasKreeCh: Have set DNS on laptop's connection preferences to 4.2.2.2 and still have problems.
[18:39] <shadeslayer> Roasted: K > System settings > Display
[18:39] <Roasted> shadeslayer - yep
[18:39] <coz_> :)
[18:39] <Roasted> do something for me
[18:39] <Roasted> change your resolution, and reboot
[18:39] <Roasted> see if it sticks
[18:39] <FloodBotK1> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <coz_> ??
[18:39] <Roasted> 3 computers I tested it on, not a single one stuck with the resolution. Went back to native when I rebooted.
[18:40] <Roasted> that was directed towards shadeslayer
[18:40] <coz_> Roasted,  t his is  apparenlty something up with kubuntu but let me check somewhere else hols on
[18:40] <ozi> vishesh: Tanks Alot :D
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Roasted: ah.. thats the problem,now i understand what my friend tried to say,he has the exact same problem :P
[18:40] <ozi> kopete just install icon pacakge for yahoo :))
[18:40] <Roasted> shadeslayer - I was just ranting when you came in in regard ot this because a problem like this just shouldnt....... exist. ya know?
[18:40] <vishesh> ozi : You're welcome. :-)
[18:40] <Kelvari> Roasted: I understand what you mean, in regards to Shade's problem.
[18:41] <ozi> tanks very much
[18:41] <shadeslayer> Roasted: well the default behaviour is that it defaults to the best res
[18:41] <Roasted> shadeslayer - oh yeah, and that's understandable.
[18:41] <shadeslayer> Roasted: yeah,so if you need something tailored,you need to do some work :P
[18:41] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: I'm here
[18:41] <Roasted> shadeslayer - I have a poor monitor that sucks at default resolution. Text is unreadable. What abuot me? I have to change the resolution after each reboot? Problems like this just shouldn't exist when the DE has been around for such a long time.
[18:42] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Oh. I tested it out. The GNOME and KDE bluetooth apps have some common way of knowing who is paired and who isn't. And no info seems to be stored in /etc/Bluetooth
[18:42] <coz_> Roasted,  I think the xrandr  options talked about on that link may help
[18:42] <coz_> Roasted,  would you pastebin.com your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  please
[18:43] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: does this only happen for google.com ?
[18:43] <Roasted> I can't. The battery died on that laptop.
[18:43] <coz_> Roasted,  oh yeah sorry
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Roasted: well i think setting it  in XOrg should work
[18:43] <Roasted> I have the charger in the car, but Im in the middle of eating lunch, so uh :P
[18:43] <Kelvari> No. It's now happening for https://addons.mozilla.org, which is putting me on the Google.com homepage.
[18:43] <coz_> Roasted,   lunch is way more important :)
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Roasted: oh found another methid
[18:44] <shadeslayer> (if you use a nvidia GPU)
[18:44] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: shouldn't it be ~/.bluetooth ?
[18:44] <Roasted> shadeslayer - yeah, I'm sure it is. It's just I feel as though Linux is pretty easy to use and the average user could adapt to it if need be. And seeing problems like this just completely crushes any positive "oh yeah you dont need to be a genius to use this" thing I ever said. :(
[18:44] <coz_> shaamanime,   intel for that machine
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Roasted: do you have a nvidia card?
[18:44] <Roasted> shadeslayer - 2 of the 3 systems I tested have nvidia, my laptop has intel
[18:44] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: go to www.yahoo.com and see if that works
[18:44] <Roasted> all 3 did the same thing
[18:44] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: I have blueman and kBluetooth installed. kBluetooth has a pairing mechanism while blueman doesn't. If you unpair it from the mobile. Blueman doesn't work, bu kbluetooth asks for it to get paired. That was the first thing I looked for .. :-(
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Roasted: ok in the nvidia settings set the res to whatever you want and click save to X config
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Roasted: for the intel im not sure what to do
[18:45] <Roasted> shadeslayer - yeahhhh :(
[18:45] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: So if you pair it with kbluetooth can blueman use it?
[18:46] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Yup. But I have to initiate the request from my cell.
[18:47] <shadeslayer> Roasted: im pretty sure it can be accomplished in gnome but not in KDE
[18:47] <dasKreeCh> vishesh: ok Hmm I remember something like this with MacOSX
[18:47] <shadeslayer> (gnome probably has better tools for this)
[18:48] <Roasted> shadeslayer - yeah
[18:48] <Roasted> I used gnome for about 5 years
[18:48] <Roasted> I only recently swithced to KDE
[18:48] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Wait. That doesn't necessarily mean they have a common storing place. Blueman tried to use connect to my cell, but my cell rejected it cause it wasn't paired. This means that blueman doesn't know anything about pairing .. I think.. damn.
[18:48] <shadeslayer> Roasted: you see KDE 4.x is still under heavy development,i suggest you file a upstream bug at bugs.kde.cgi
[18:48] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: So, my inference in kinda wrong ..  maybe
[18:49] <Roasted> shadeslayer - I understand. But when I google something and it's a bug that's been around since the beginning of KDE's days, it's just like, wow really?
[18:49] <shadeslayer> Roasted: maybe nobody paid attention to this,maybe nobody followed up,lots of reason to reopen the bug report or comment on it
[18:49] <Roasted> It's strange though, how selecting display kciks the resolution back
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Roasted: also maybe the reporter didnt follow up
[18:50] <Roasted> once I reboot and it goes back to the old resolution, and I go to system settings - display, blam its back
[18:50] <Roasted> shadeslayer - yeah, I guess its possible. I just didnt expect to find this many hits about it on google. SOMEBODY has to know about this. :(
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Roasted: no its actually a problem with Xorg.conf.... its default behaviour is to select the best res for the PC
[18:50] <Roasted> shadeslayer - well, does ubuntu have this problem? (gnome)
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Roasted: maybe,maybe not, im not sure
[18:51] <Roasted> shadeslayer - so you dont think its KDE dependent?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Roasted: well if gnome writes to xorg,its a kde problem,if not its both a kde and gnome problem
[18:52] <Roasted> well, the thing is, if you use nvidia-settings, you're writing to xorg.
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Roasted: exactly
[18:52] <Roasted> I'll bet any money on the desktops here with vnidia cards that if I write to xorg, KDE will be fine.
[18:52] <Roasted> buuuuuuut..... my intel lappy... :(
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Roasted: yep..
[18:52] <shadeslayer> Roasted: edit it by hand
[18:52] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: I'm heading over to the blueZ website. Maybe they have some answers. I'll let you know.
[18:53] <shadeslayer> Roasted: you can read the wiki and set the res by yourself
[18:53] <shadeslayer> !res | Roasted
[18:53] <Roasted> shadeslayer - it's weird. I'm a terminal junkie. But as part of my job, I alwyas do the hard work, the research, development, preparation, etc, and then I relay that information and teach other people about it.
[18:53] <Roasted> I work in a school district with technology. So I have to set the stuff up and teach epople how to use it in class.
[18:54] <Roasted> shadeslayer - so by nature, Im used to doing the dirty terminal work, but then I want there to be an easy to use gui or something for the end user to see, ya know.
[18:54] <shadeslayer> Roasted: i think thats a pretty good job :)
[18:54] <Roasted> so even though I know its possible to edit the xorg file, I look at it from the mind set of a basic user - how would they edit the xorg file? I can think of about 99% of people I talk to daily who would be like yeah eff this wheres my windows cd again?
[18:54] <colton_> I just got a new printer and am looking for linux device drivers (it only came with drivers for windows and mac). Where could I find them?
[18:55] <shadeslayer> Roasted: 99pc of those normal people wouldnt want a horrid res as 800x600
[18:55] <shadeslayer> colton_: there are no drivers for linux
[18:55] <shadeslayer> colton_: just plug it in and use it :P
[18:55] <Roasted> shadeslayer - youd be surprised. There's some uh.. how do I say this......
[18:55] <Roasted> shadeslayer - ........old.......... teachers at work ;)
[18:56] <Roasted> just the other day someone asked me to change it. I changed it to 800x600 (the lowest) and she wanted the icons bigger yet.
[18:56] <Roasted> shadeslayer - however, this was also a student computer for 1st graders.
[18:56] <shadeslayer> Roasted: tell her to get better glasses or change her optician :P
[18:56] <Roasted> shadeslayer - well, little kids were using it too, she just wanted it changed so nobody had issues with it
[18:57] <Roasted> shadeslayer - my underlying point is, theres still a need to change resolution of systems, even if you "should" be using the native res for LCD monitors.
[18:57] <shadeslayer> hmm... i think plasma-netbook is the kind of thing youre looking for.. big icons
[18:57] <Kelvari> dasKreeCh: sorry about the wait. Going to www.yahoo.com works, and now addons.mozilla.org works.
[18:57] <Roasted> shadeslayer - I havent used ATI in years. Does ATI have a control panel like nvidia does?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Roasted: ATi has more problems than nvidia,thats what ive heard
[18:58] <Roasted> shadeslayer - Yeah, ATI has come a long way, but still trails behind nvidia in my opinion. I havent used them for a while though.
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Roasted: although feel free to ask...
[18:58] <Roasted> shadeslayer - I just wasnt sure if ATI had a control panel that could edit the xorg file the way nvidia does.
[19:00] <Tm_T> hi kids
[19:00] <shadeslayer> Roasted: google around,ask here... i have no idea :)
[19:00] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: :D
[19:01] <Roasted> shadeslayer - it appears as if they do http://michaeleberhart.net/linux/ubuntu/8_10/ati_control.png
[19:01] <Roasted> I just wonder if it writes to xorg
[19:02] <shirosaki> .help
[19:03] <shadeslayer> Roasted: probably yes
[19:03] <BluesKaj> Roasted, dunno about ati, but nvidia writes to xorg with the nvidia-xconfig command
[19:04] <BluesKaj> err generates an xorg.conf file if one isn't already written
[19:05] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: we have discussed that :)
[19:06] <Roasted> it also writes to the xorg just by hitting "write to xorg" in the menu too
[19:15] <Pat_Benson_> I have a old ATI card (x1950 Pro)and I have never seen any control panel settings working well that is .. there was a ATIcontrol center (?) before but that didn't work well or at all(this was in Intripid
[19:16] <Kelvari> Sorry - my computer couldn't find irc.freenodes.net
[19:18] <Guest31984> hello
[19:19] <rodia> hello
[19:19] <shadeslayer> rodia: hi
[19:20] <rodia> hi: shadeslayer  where are you from ?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> rodia: why are you interested?
[19:20] <rodia> meat som people
[19:21] <shadeslayer> rodia: India..
[19:21] <rodia> meet people
[19:22] <rodia> whit same interstings
[19:26] <Kelvari> I would greatly appreciate it if I could get some help with my internet connection.
[19:27] <BluesKaj> Pat_Benson_, ATI is working on a linux driver that covers most of the pci cards and onboards out there ,..should be out in the next few months
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Kelvari, cable/dsl/eth0, or wifi ?
[19:29] <Kelvari> BluesKaj: DSL using either eth0 or wifi
[19:33] <BluesKaj> Kelvari, network manager?
[19:34] <dasKreeCh> Kelvari: irc.ubuntu.com
[19:35] <dasKreeCh> BluesKaj: He's having an issue where his DNS is returning the wrong IPs for lookups
[19:36] <Jayden> BluesKaj: it's me, Kelvari - connected belly-upped on the Linux laptop again.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> Jayden, oh, a laptop ok.. wicd works well if network manager doesn't cut it , especially on wifi ...no wpa2 available with nm . wicd provides options for all encryptions
[19:39] <Jayden> BluesKaj: This happens even with wired connection, and I run WPA, not WPA2
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Jayden, broadcom ?
[19:40] <Jayden> BluesKaj: Atheros
[19:40] <shadeslayer> bbl
[19:41] <BluesKaj> there's an atheros driver available for linux afaik, Jayden ..installed ?
[19:41] <Jayden> BluesKaj: Wi-fi works out-of-the-box
[19:42] <Jayden> BluesKaj: driver=ath5k
[19:44] <vishesh> dasKreeCh: Can't find anything. Giving up for now. Tired .. will be back tom. Ugh.
[19:46] <apparle> hey I am not getting a sleep option... how to enable it?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> Jayden, try opendns ... setup your gateway/router primary DNS 208.67.222.222, secondary DNS 208.67.220.220 ...see if that helps
[19:47] <Jayden> BluesKaj: Router is set up to use OpenDNS, still having severe issues.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Jayden, sorry then it's beyond my scope :(
[19:52] <apparle> guys someone plz tell me how to put my computer to sleep... I can't find the option sleep nor suspend to RAM
[19:53] <Jayden> BluesKaj: Do you think trying Lucid Alpha might help?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> apparle, use a hammer
[19:53] <Wolfcastle> hello
[19:53] <Wolfcastle> I use kubuntu karmic
[19:54] <apparle> BluesKaj: LOL
[19:54] <Wolfcastle> and the battery status widget is showing no battery is present
[19:54] <Wolfcastle> very often on starupt
[19:54] <Wolfcastle> when cleary I can verify it is
[19:54] <Malin_> I have an issue that it belives the ac power adapter is unpluged
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Jayden, I pinged your finall node ip and there wasn't any error
[19:55] <Jayden> BluesKaj: And, right now, I can't even ping to Google from my laptop
[19:55] <BluesKaj> apparle, there seems to be an issue with powernowd etc on karmic
[19:56] <apparle> BluesKaj: I haven't tried it on Ubuntu.... is it kubuntu specific or karmic specific?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> Jayden, but the pc your using to speak to us ok ?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> it's an issue with gnome and kde , apparle
[19:57] <apparle> BluesKaj: any workaround......link etc...
[19:58] <BluesKaj> apparle, sorry dunno for sure , you could try the launchpad bug reports
[19:59] <apparle> BluesKaj: I didn't find anything useful by googling... could you help
[19:59] <BluesKaj> apparle, not really , I just shut my machine down when I'm not going use it for a few hrs , even
[20:00] <apparle> BluesKaj: np..... I'll search things thanks
[20:01] <BluesKaj> apparle, there's some guys at #ubuntu who might be able to help , gnome seems to have the same problem, even more so
[20:02] <apparle> BluesKaj: k thanks
[20:03] <Wolfcastle> are kubuntu bugs reported at the same pages as ubuntu bugs?
[20:04] <apparle> Wolfcastle: yes
[20:04] <Wolfcastle> thanx
[20:04] <apparle> Wolfcastle: bugs are related to individual packages
[20:05] <Wolfcastle> what package would the battery monitor be part of?
[20:05] <Wolfcastle> plasma?
[20:06] <dasKreeCh> apparle: do you have acpi ?
[20:06] <apparle> dasKreeCh: I think so.. but I am not sure ... where to check
[20:07] <ai9371_> hello
[20:11] <apparle> dasKreeCh: if I have acpi what to do?
[20:11] <apparle> !pastebin
[20:13] <apparle> dasKreeCh: just found in the MoBo manual.... ACPI is supported
[20:13] <vbgunz> hey can anybody read this?
[20:13] <apparle> vbgunz: yes
[20:13] <sinclair86> no
[20:14] <apparle> dasKreeCh: will be back online in 5 min..
[20:14] <vbgunz> I am having an interesting issue. It appears I am connected here (konversation 4) and also in kopete. But konqueror and Firefox refuse to almost load any webpages at all. with those guys, it's as if I am offline. what can cause that?
[20:15] <sinclair86> dns
[20:15] <sinclair86> torrents
[20:15] <vbgunz> sinclair86: I was gonna guess that
[20:15] <vbgunz> I am using the google dns servers
[20:16] <Wolfcastle> what package should I file a bug against if i have a problem with a widget?
[20:16] <sinclair86> vbgunz are the pages not loading via browser? what about ping them?
[20:17] <sinclair86> where did you place googles dns servers... in your dhcp.conf or in your router?
[20:19] <dasKreeCh> vbgunz: Maybe they are set to offline?
[20:21] <dasKreeCh> Wolfcastle: kdebase-workspace
[20:21] <Wolfcastle> dasKreeCh: thanx
[20:21] <dasKreeCh> Wolfcastle: assuming it's not something you installed yourself
[20:21] <Wolfcastle> nop nothing i installed by myself
[20:26] <soee> hi
[20:26] <Wolfcastle> hello
[20:28] <BluesKaj> sinclair86, best to put it in the dns server settings in the router
[20:29] <sinclair86> not for me was trying to help that kid and was trying to figure out his setup
[20:31] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, di you get that ? read above...and some advice, the google dns servers are clunky. I tried them for a while and got the same probs as you
[20:36] <sinclair86> awww... you made him leave
[20:37] <BluesKaj> sinclair86, he's prolly changing to opendns :)
[20:37] <BluesKaj> sinclair86, you're the one who called him a kid btw :)
[20:38] <sinclair86> eh speaking from exprience most of them are... besides anyone younger than me is a kid
[20:38] <Mamarok> sinclair86: how do you know?
[20:39] <Mamarok> I know a lot of people asking for help here that are much older than you think
[20:39] <sinclair86> well when im 52 there arent too many people that i cant call kids
[20:40] <maco> your parents?
[20:40] <sinclair86> exactly
[20:40] <sinclair86> they being one
[20:40] <maco> if my dad came in here he'd be older than you
[20:40] <BluesKaj> I know that I'm one of the older guys around ... met only one guy older than I am and he was an old unix dude :)
[20:40] <maco> but the linux machine that went missing from his house ran debian, not kubuntu ;)
[20:41] <sinclair86> any of you guys play geas of war or cod?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> <---66 , but still kickin'
[20:41] <sinclair86> damn
[20:42] <BluesKaj> I play drums not games :)
[20:42] <sinclair86> rock band drums... lol =P
[20:42] <BluesKaj> not all , some country as well
[20:57] <Zorael> It's not possible to bind (xmodmap) a single key to be another key + a modifier, is it? Like, to bind a multimedia key to be Ctrl+Tab?
[21:16] <dasKreeCh> Zorael: as far as I know you can quite easily
[21:18] <apparle> Hello
[21:18] <Zorael> dasKreeCh: Any idea how? I've tried to cheat xmodmap by telling it 'keycode 135 = Ctrl+Tab', and 'Ctrl-Tab' and other variations, but it rejects them.
[21:19] <apparle> When I Suspend to RAM the system sleeps but when I start again.... the screen just remains black.... although the processer fan starts again... where could be the problem
[21:20] <apparle> Could it be a problem with the video driver or something else?
[21:20] <dasKreeCh> apparle: What Processor?
[21:20] <dasKreeCh> apparle: that's possible
[21:20] <apparle> dasKreeCh: Pentium D........standby works fine in WinXP
[21:21] <dasKreeCh> Zorael: Look at ainput actions or the Shortcuts in System settings
[21:21] <dasKreeCh>  It's under keybaord
[21:21] <dasKreeCh> apparle: I know but Linux isn't Windows
[21:22] <apparle> dasKreeCh: so one thing confirm.... not a hardware problem...
[21:22] <sharif> How to be able to find a form of bandwidth quota in ubuntu so i can limit speed while sharing Internet for users via Ubuntu Internet sharing machine ?
[21:22] <apparle> !ssh
[21:25] <Zorael> dasKreeCh: No terminal environment-nonspecific solution?
[21:26] <dasKreeCh> Zorael: xmodmap would be it
[21:27] <apparle> dasKreeCh: any help what to do... or how to locate where could be the problem
[21:27] <Zorael> dasKreeCh: Right, not sure it supports sending modified keys, so I'll go with KDE's solution.
[21:27] <Zorael> thanks.
[21:29] <K350> how to install all applications in systemsettings?
[21:37] <syke> where can I get -dbg packages for the KDE 4.3.3  that's in PPA?
[21:38] <syke> I would really prefer not to build my own dbg packages from source, and I have several reproducible crashes to submit
[21:41] <dasKreeCh> Zorael: Xmod is of course for X if you want something for the terminal you may ned a nother solution
[21:42] <dasKreeCh> apparle: I'd drop the Video card drivers to vesa and see if it still happend
[21:42] <dasKreeCh> happens
[21:42] <apparle> dasKreeCh: how to do that?
[21:49] <dasKreeCh> apparle: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf under Device put the line Driver "vesa"
[21:49] <dasKreeCh> then restart X
[21:50] <dasKreeCh> you can do that by logging out and pressing alt+E on the login menu
[21:51] <apparle> dasKreeCh: but I don't have any xorg.conf
[21:51] <dasKreeCh> apparle: >_>
[21:52] <dasKreeCh> BluesKaj: can you help apparle make a xorg.conf with a driver vesa line?
[21:53] <BluesKaj> dasKreeCh, with nvidia it's nvidia-xconfig , not sure about vesa
[21:54] <BluesKaj> hang on lemme check something
[21:54] <apparle> dasKreeCh: will this be enough http://paste.ubuntu.com/346674/
[21:56] <martijn_> hi, i have installed daisy under opensuse, but i cannot get the panel on bottum there, see this=> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 do you have any idea how to fix this?
[21:56] <BluesKaj> apparle, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:57] <apparle> BluesKaj: what is that supposed to do?
[21:58] <fanti> hello! what is the ubuntu way to tell apt-get NOT to overwrite my custom compiled xorg-server package while running apt-get upgrade?
[21:58] <BluesKaj> apparle, configure your xorgfile according to your hardware
[22:02] <apparle> BluesKaj: Actually I want to config xorg.conf to use vesa
[22:17] <Guest36156> google
[22:25] <sharif> what do you mean by google ?
[22:57] <zaphira13> Guys i have a big problem, When i am sending files from pidgin the go really slow but in windows with msn they are really fast...why??? What can i do??
[23:08] <sinclair86> .
[23:13] <zaphira13> Guys i have a big problem, When i am sending files from pidgin the go really slow but in windows with msn they are really fast...why??? What can i do??