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| Guest53746 | hey what exactly is Ubuntu arm? sounds fun | 05:27 |
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| Guest53746 | ? | 05:39 |
| pwnguin | presumably its a port to the ARM architecture | 05:40 |
| Guest53746 | so then i could run it on say my ipod touch | 05:40 |
| Guest53746 | ? | 05:40 |
| pwnguin | how would you install it? | 05:41 |
| Guest53746 | well one installs an os from a medium of data called a CD, so i guess the data medium of installation would be a hard drive and a usb cord | 05:42 |
| Guest53746 | if i were to do it at least | 05:42 |
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| Programmador | so i guess thats how | 05:45 |
| Programmador | The darwin kernel is open source too | 05:45 |
| Programmador | so i guess i would grab some of its kext handling code | 05:45 |
| Programmador | patch them into the kernel | 05:45 |
| Programmador | and keep the ipod kexts until i could write my own (good luck) | 05:46 |
| Programmador | seeing as the ipod touch os is a stripped down version of OSX | 05:46 |
| pwnguin | have you by chance ever installed rockbox on your ipod touch? | 05:48 |
| Programmador | this sounds like fun. if anyone who is working on it is here please keep in touch, i would love see ubuntu on my ipod touch | 05:49 |
| pwnguin | i dont think anyone's working on it | 05:49 |
| pwnguin | there's far more open hardware available | 05:49 |
| Programmador | open what? | 05:50 |
| pwnguin | hardware | 05:50 |
| Programmador | like open source hardware as in the blueprints? | 05:50 |
| pwnguin | you dont have to jailbreak nokia's stuff | 05:50 |
| Programmador | true that | 05:50 |
| pwnguin | openmoko, pandora | 05:51 |
| Programmador | im just thinking about how many people have the ipod touch i know | 05:51 |
| Programmador | its all the same hardware and software, makes things easy lol | 05:51 |
| pwnguin | kinda | 05:51 |
| pwnguin | i guess people have hacked up the iphone enough to install a bootloader and kernel | 05:52 |
| pwnguin | http://www.vimeo.com/2373142 | 05:52 |
| Martyn | And rockbox is meant to run on =far= less capable hardware | 05:52 |
| Programmador | IOKit probably has something to program for the hardware | 05:52 |
| Martyn | franly, the ipod touch is /huge/ compared to the platforms rockbox usually runs on | 05:52 |
| pwnguin | Martyn: im just saying, rockbox would be an easier first step than ubuntu | 05:53 |
| Programmador | more memory to work with, but also more hardware to deal with | 05:53 |
| Martyn | pwnguin : Oh good god | 05:53 |
| Martyn | pwnguin : The entire linux kernel was ported to the iPhone platform, and then we all gave up on it because Apple basically has built a platform to be as unfriendly as possible | 05:53 |
| Programmador | well easy isnt my thing lol ive been a linux user for years now and have dug deep lol | 05:53 |
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| pwnguin | heh | 05:53 |
| Martyn | half the hardware in there is nearly impossible to reverse engineer drivers for without being exposed to the original firmware | 05:54 |
| Programmador | IOkit works? | 05:54 |
| Programmador | the xcode programming interface for drivers? | 05:54 |
| Programmador | its got to | 05:54 |
| Martyn | When Jurgen tried to cobble together a driver for the capacitive touch sensor .. he literally threw the phone out a window after three months of fruitless toil | 05:55 |
| pwnguin | heh | 05:55 |
| Programmador | that bad eh? | 05:55 |
| Martyn | that bad | 05:55 |
| pwnguin | Martyn: so what hardware do you run ubuntu-arm on? | 05:55 |
| Martyn | WIth the G1 and all the other great Android hardware platforms .. nobody really wanted to run on the iPhone anymore | 05:56 |
| Programmador | that sucks | 05:56 |
| Martyn | pwnguin : One of the first quad core ARM development boards in the world? | 05:56 |
| pwnguin | hah | 05:56 |
| pwnguin | ok | 05:56 |
| pwnguin | god why | 05:57 |
| Martyn | pwnguin : I work for smooth-stone, we're making an ARM server CPU | 05:57 |
| Programmador | I'd really like to see ubuntu on the iphone so I can see Steve Jobs cry | 05:57 |
| Programmador | wow lol | 05:57 |
| Martyn | Yep, big wow | 05:57 |
| pwnguin | Programmador: why would he cry, when ubuntu isn't gonna run smoothly on it | 05:57 |
| Programmador | why on earth would you want to do that? | 05:57 |
| Martyn | I've already gotten 9.10 working, and I'm the one who created the lucid-arm-server blueprint | 05:57 |
| pwnguin | probably power envelope and because you think it'll be fast | 05:57 |
| Programmador | because i bet you some one out there would make it soooth | 05:57 |
| Programmador | smooth | 05:58 |
| Programmador | so anyway i gtg happy christmas all, i think I'll drop in later, this sounds pretty cool | 05:58 |
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