=== asac_ is now known as asac [05:27] hey what exactly is Ubuntu arm? sounds fun [05:39] ? [05:40] presumably its a port to the ARM architecture [05:40] so then i could run it on say my ipod touch [05:40] ? [05:41] how would you install it? [05:42] well one installs an os from a medium of data called a CD, so i guess the data medium of installation would be a hard drive and a usb cord [05:42] if i were to do it at least === Guest53746 is now known as Iago === Iago is now known as Paradoxical === Paradoxical is now known as Programmador [05:45] so i guess thats how [05:45] The darwin kernel is open source too [05:45] so i guess i would grab some of its kext handling code [05:45] patch them into the kernel [05:46] and keep the ipod kexts until i could write my own (good luck) [05:46] seeing as the ipod touch os is a stripped down version of OSX [05:48] have you by chance ever installed rockbox on your ipod touch? [05:49] this sounds like fun. if anyone who is working on it is here please keep in touch, i would love see ubuntu on my ipod touch [05:49] i dont think anyone's working on it [05:49] there's far more open hardware available [05:50] open what? [05:50] hardware [05:50] like open source hardware as in the blueprints? [05:50] you dont have to jailbreak nokia's stuff [05:50] true that [05:51] openmoko, pandora [05:51] im just thinking about how many people have the ipod touch i know [05:51] its all the same hardware and software, makes things easy lol [05:51] kinda [05:52] i guess people have hacked up the iphone enough to install a bootloader and kernel [05:52] http://www.vimeo.com/2373142 [05:52] And rockbox is meant to run on =far= less capable hardware [05:52] IOKit probably has something to program for the hardware [05:52] franly, the ipod touch is /huge/ compared to the platforms rockbox usually runs on [05:53] Martyn: im just saying, rockbox would be an easier first step than ubuntu [05:53] more memory to work with, but also more hardware to deal with [05:53] pwnguin : Oh good god [05:53] pwnguin : The entire linux kernel was ported to the iPhone platform, and then we all gave up on it because Apple basically has built a platform to be as unfriendly as possible [05:53] well easy isnt my thing lol ive been a linux user for years now and have dug deep lol === Guest78452 is now known as NCommander [05:53] heh [05:54] half the hardware in there is nearly impossible to reverse engineer drivers for without being exposed to the original firmware [05:54] IOkit works? [05:54] the xcode programming interface for drivers? [05:54] its got to [05:55] When Jurgen tried to cobble together a driver for the capacitive touch sensor .. he literally threw the phone out a window after three months of fruitless toil [05:55] heh [05:55] that bad eh? [05:55] that bad [05:55] Martyn: so what hardware do you run ubuntu-arm on? [05:56] WIth the G1 and all the other great Android hardware platforms .. nobody really wanted to run on the iPhone anymore [05:56] that sucks [05:56] pwnguin : One of the first quad core ARM development boards in the world? [05:56] hah [05:56] ok [05:57] god why [05:57] pwnguin : I work for smooth-stone, we're making an ARM server CPU [05:57] I'd really like to see ubuntu on the iphone so I can see Steve Jobs cry [05:57] wow lol [05:57] Yep, big wow [05:57] Programmador: why would he cry, when ubuntu isn't gonna run smoothly on it [05:57] why on earth would you want to do that? [05:57] I've already gotten 9.10 working, and I'm the one who created the lucid-arm-server blueprint [05:57] probably power envelope and because you think it'll be fast [05:57] because i bet you some one out there would make it soooth [05:58] smooth [05:58] so anyway i gtg happy christmas all, i think I'll drop in later, this sounds pretty cool