[00:00] <LiteralKa> too late
[00:00] <cwillu_at_work> Whizpopthat, don't get in the habit of using root shells
[00:00] <blackest_knight> merry xmas
[00:00] <cwillu_at_work> ubbe, don't get in the habit of suggesting people use root shells
[00:00] <edbian> LiteralKa: ha ha ok no big deal
[00:00] <ubbe> cwillu_at_work, relax
[00:00] <LiteralKa> yeah, hopefully :P
[00:00] <edbian> LiteralKa: After you get everything installed again reboot and see if it makes a difference.
[00:00] <LiteralKa> okay
[00:00] <LiteralKa> thank you
[00:01] <edbian> LiteralKa: No Problem.  Hardware detection is the  biggest problem for linux imho
[00:01] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, any luck?
[00:01] <LiteralKa> yeah
[00:01] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: Where do i go from here, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ...it gave me no such file or directory
[00:01] <Whizpopthat> wait hold on lol
[00:01] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, sudo which ifconfig
[00:02] <cwillu_at_work> which ifconfig, you _don't_ need to use sudo for each command, and it _will_ bite you badly some day if you do
[00:02] <minimec> Whizpopthat: Ok. Let's work that out together... What kind of device is that? USB wifi or integrated netbook device?
[00:02] <LiteralKa> i've been using tty for the past 24 hours
[00:02] <Circs> I have a G1 with USB tethering enables and my netbook runs 8.0. in 9.04 the tethering is supposed to be "auto-magic" is there a way to enable support for this tethering in 8.04?
[00:02] <Whizpopthat> Dell inspiron 1501 wireless card.
[00:02] <edbian> LiteralKa: I bet you're getter pretty good at it! :P
[00:02] <LiteralKa> lol
[00:03] <LiteralKa> It's been pathetic
[00:03] <LiteralKa> I still find myself trying to use the mouse
[00:03] <michaels_> Get windows keys for only 5 eur http://bit.ly/5Tgz2X :)
[00:03] <APERSON> !ops | michaels_ spamming
[00:03] <edbian> LiteralKa: Unfortunately I think the best advice I can give is to simply use the last version of Ubuntu
[00:03] <minimec> Whizpopthat: What about that? http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
[00:04] <Circs> ty Seeker`
[00:04] <LiteralKa> yeah
[00:04] <LiteralKa> well
[00:04] <LiteralKa> here goes
[00:04]  * ubbe now we suggest third party wifi tools?
[00:04] <cwillu_at_work> h0g4398h3, still there?
[00:04] <edbian> LiteralKa: I use debian because I was annoyed by Ubuntu updates messing things up.  Although I do occasionally miss life on the edge
[00:04] <Whizpopthat> minimec: download the Auto-NDISwrapper?
[00:05] <ilSoldier> hi
[00:05] <Hydrosis> lol, why was Seeker kicked?
[00:05] <ilSoldier> I need help
[00:05]  * nucc1 says so long and thanks for all the fish.
[00:05] <Seeker`> Hydrosis: I wasn't
[00:05] <ilSoldier> is this correct? mount -o rw filename foldertomounto
[00:05] <LiteralKa> restarting
[00:05] <Hydrosis> Lysdexia kicked in, why did you kick that guy Seeker?
[00:05] <cwillu_at_work> Hydrosis, he did the kicking
[00:05] <edbian> ilSoldier: are you trying to mount an ISO ?
[00:05] <ilSoldier> no
[00:05] <ilSoldier> I'm trying to mount an ntfs partition on a hard drive
[00:06] <switch10_> anyone have a good alternative to fspot and picasa??  I just read this, im done with fspot..  http://daniel-bartholomew.com/wordpress/2009/10/f-spot-considered-harmful/
[00:06] <ubbe> ilSoldier, why did you write filename?
[00:06] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, it would be mount /dev/sdasomething /mount/point
[00:06] <Whizpopthat> ?
[00:06] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, if it's an image file, you'd need to add -o loop
[00:06] <ilSoldier> I've booted from ubuntu on my usb stick so I could fix up my xp os which is on my hard drive
[00:06] <Whizpopthat> minimec: are you suggesting to download the Auto-NDISwrapper?
[00:07] <ubbe> minimec, does your wifi card show up in dmesg
[00:07] <arch----> how do you prevent ubuntu LIVE from going into sleep mode?
[00:07] <arch----> im in the process of DL'ing something and don't want it to get interruped
[00:07] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, does your wifi card show up in dmesg
[00:07] <minimec> Whizpopthat: I would try that. I never had to use ndiswrapper as i try to only choose Linux compatible devices. But that sounds quiet interesting. Still... as your card is recognized as wlan0, I guess your card is working. You could also pastebin your dmesg (console 'dmesg'). There we could verify if your device gives some errors during boot...
[00:08] <edbian> I'm back.  Sorry 'bout that
[00:08] <switch10_> arch----: in power Management
[00:08] <edbian> Who's trying to mount something?
[00:08] <arch----> how to get there
[00:08] <ubbe> minimec, if the card is working why would you install a third party tool which is for alternative drivers?
[00:08] <Snausages> switch10_: wow, that guy sure is upset about it...  it's a bug in free software!  guy ought to relax a lil.
[00:08] <switch10_> arch----: system>prefs
[00:08] <Shanthi> Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically.
[00:09] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:09] <Whizpopthat> loading dmesg in a sec
[00:09] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:09] <Shanthi> FWIW,  ipod (1st gen Min, if it matters) is mounted at /media/mypod correctly and I can list stuff there. I finally managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:10] <switch10_> Snausages: ya hes not to happy.  but he brings up a good point.  ive used fspot until now, and im just curious to see what else is out there...
[00:10] <minimec> ubbe: see my last post to Whizpopthat ;)
[00:10] <arch----> thanks
[00:10] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:10] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:10] <switch10_> Snausages: im not a huge fan of picasa either...
[00:10] <Whizpopthat> minimec: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m268d2eba
[00:10] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, sudo iwlist scan    --->output should show wifi networks
[00:11] <switch10_> Snausages: fspot is better than picasa in my opinion though
[00:11] <lun4tic> hi anybody there to help me with a vlc streaming server problem on ubuntu-server?
[00:11] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2416): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.27" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManager" due to security policies in the configuration file
[00:11] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2416): WARNING **: Could not acquire name; bailing out
[00:11] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning: network is down
[00:11] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:11] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:11] <lun4tic> i always get "Illegal Instruction" when trying to start a movie on the client. the server has no X installed and cannot play movies without streaming either
[00:12] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:12] <ago_> hello
[00:12] <switch10_> !hello
[00:12] <edbian> ago_: Hi :)
[00:12] <chaupham1990> hi
[00:12] <LiteralKa> edbian: Error
[00:12] <lun4tic> what do i have to install to get vlc playing movies? some "ugly" packages?
[00:12] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2426): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.28" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManager" due to security policies in the configuration file
[00:12] <LiteralKa> ** (gdm-binary:2426): WARNING **: Could not acquire name; bailing out
[00:12] <FloodBot2> LiteralKa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, dmesg shows your device
[00:12] <LiteralKa> FloodBot2: I can't. ;_;
[00:13] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:13] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: I did dmesg.. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m268d2eba
[00:13] <switch10_> lun4tic: what type of file??
[00:13] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:13] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, fn F2  command on keyboard will activate the wifi on that laptop make sure that is on
[00:13] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:13] <edbian> LiteralKa: Mmm, that's a crazy error.  Can you find the config file it's whining about?
[00:13] <cwillu_at_work> LiteralKa, can you give more description of what happened?
[00:13] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, make sure you see the wifi light lit up on your laptop
[00:13] <lun4tic> switch10_: different avi, mpeg and stuff none of them works
[00:13] <cwillu_at_work> LiteralKa, sounds like something that would happen if gdm died during an upgrade to karmic
[00:14] <edbian> LiteralKa: His mouse and keyboard did not work after switching to ubuntu 9.10 so I suggested hi purge and re-install HAL
[00:14] <minimec> Whizpopthat: I think I got something ... Line 472: [   28.000407] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
[00:14] <lun4tic> with "normal" vlc on my desktop ubuntu all works fine
[00:14] <Whizpopthat> ubbe: It's off, but won't turn on, wireless IS enabled
[00:14] <lun4tic> but the server wont play anything
[00:14] <Whizpopthat> minimec: I just noticed that.
[00:14] <Hydrosis> LiteralKa - http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu  -- If it's screen resolution detection problems, maybe you can learn something from this?  Not sure what you exact problem is, sorry.
[00:14] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, could be that the driver in ubuntu wont activate the light i just want to make sure its on
[00:14] <edbian> Hydrosis: His mouse and keyboard weren't working
[00:14] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:15] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:15] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:15] <Whizpopthat> Okay
[00:15] <teleri> ok, I'm on an Acer Aspire One D250 and after every boot up i have to wait about a minute before i turn the mouse pad on or else if i try any earlier it causes the whole keyboard, mouse, and mic to stop working intirly
[00:15] <lun4tic> i allready addet the medibuntu repository and installed gstreamer...ugly packages and w32codecs
[00:15] <Whizpopthat> minimec: what's the url to download the firmware
[00:15] <JoeSomebody> if a game says ubuntu 8.04 does that mean 8.04 or higher, like in windowsland?
[00:15] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody, no, but usually it will work.
[00:16] <edbian> JoeSomebody: Not explicitly but probably.
[00:16] <Whizpopthat> i just did it through terminal nevermind
[00:16] <JoeSomebody> :)
[00:16] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, looking closer ndiswrapper is recommended for your laptop
[00:16] <teleri> JoeSomebody: sometimes.. it's hit or miss
[00:16] <ilSoldier> how do you switch to root user in the command in line?
[00:16] <blakkheim> ilSoldier: sudo su
[00:16] <Hydrosis> ilSolider, use sudo
[00:16] <switch10_> ilSoldier: sudo
[00:16] <teleri> JoeSomebody: which game in particular?
[00:16] <ubbe> Whizpopthat, http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/11/ndiswrapper-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[00:16] <switch10_> ha
[00:16] <edbian> ilSoldier: "sudo <commandName>" is the method in Ubuntu
[00:17] <minimec> Whizpopthat: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware ?!?
[00:17] <JoeSomebody> i was going to try Urban terror that Hydrosis was mentioning
[00:17] <Whizpopthat> I remember having that on my old version, I had to manually retrieve it that might be the issue
[00:17] <Shanthi> anyone reg: Amarok 2.2.0 on Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:17] <chaupham1990> i can't install ndiswrapper-utils
[00:17] <chaupham1990> errorE: bcmwl-kernel-source: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:17] <chaupham1990> anybody help me?
[00:17] <Whizpopthat> minimec: i found it already through terminal
[00:17] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, sudo -s will give you a root prompt, but you'll sleep sounder at night if you just use sudo <command> as necessary, it really does prevent mishaps
[00:17] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody, Urban Terror works on all Ubuntu installs that I have ever used.  Get the game and have fun, it's the best FPS for Linux, in my opinion.
[00:17] <edbian> How can i send a  network message to all the users on my home router?
[00:17] <blakkheim> !repeat > chaupham1990
[00:17] <ilSoldier> well I did sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp
[00:17] <ilSoldier> is that wrong???
[00:17] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, did it say anything?
[00:17] <teleri> JoeSomebody: are you still there?
[00:18] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, ok , here i go ...
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  If you want read/write access use ntfs-3g
[00:18] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, generally you don't have to supply "-t <fstype>"
[00:18] <JoeSomebody> teleri, yes
[00:18] <edbian> ilSoldier: You probably want "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp"
[00:18] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, but what Dr_Willis said :p
[00:18] <Rolcol> Is there something wrong with the version of CUPS karmic has that does not allow me to print PDFs but is fine with postscript?
[00:18] <Whizpopthat> minimec: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter wget will work?
[00:18] <edbian> ilSoldier: Typically you want to mount things in /media/<folderName> but that's really up to you
[00:18] <Rolcol> On this printer, anyway
[00:19] <ubbe> edbian, wall
[00:19] <Shanthi> How to add podcasts to the device ? Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically. I managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:19] <blakkheim> Shanthi: what kind of ipod?
[00:19] <Gartral> JoeSomebody: hi, im the same as teleri, i can't find that game
[00:20] <edbian> ubbe: Can you be more specific?  How do I get it to send to every local IP address?  or just to a specific one?
[00:20] <Shanthi> blakkheim: 1st gen mini silver
[00:20] <minimec> Whizpopthat: Try to follow the instructions. I guess that will do. If they want you to install that... then do it.
[00:20] <JoeSomebody> Urban Terror? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Urban-Terror-Download-30754.html
[00:20] <Whizpopthat> minimec: do you think i will need to reboot after i finish?
[00:20] <Hydrosis> The Urban Terror website is down right now.
[00:21] <ilSoldier> edbian I typed exactly what you typed
[00:21] <switch10_> what alternatives are there to fspot and picasa??
[00:21] <ilSoldier> a whole bunch of stuff came down showing all the options -v -h yada yada
[00:21] <Hydrosis> switch10_ I dont use either, so I cant answer that.
[00:21] <ubbe> edbian, udp broadcasting
[00:21] <switch10_> Hydrosis: do you use a photo manager?
[00:21] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, got an error - Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: urbanterror-data (>= 4.1)
[00:22] <edbian> ilSoldier: Can you copy / paste what that was exactly?
[00:22] <ilSoldier> "so for the informational part. Next the mounting."
[00:22] <ilSoldier> wtf does that mean
[00:22] <edbian> ubbe: What would the command look like?
[00:22] <ubbe> edbian, its a c program
[00:22] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody, I just said that the offical UrbanTerror site is down, so maybe you're trying to grab files from a dead server.
[00:22] <minimec> Whizpopthat: That's the easiest thing 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' may work to, but it will cut your wired connection too ;)
[00:22] <ilSoldier> edbian I'm on another computer :-(
[00:22] <Whizpopthat> okay ill try it.
[00:22] <ilSoldier> ooo nm nm
[00:22] <edbian> ilSoldier: do you have the ntfs-3g package installed?
[00:23] <edbian> ilSoldier: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[00:23] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, you mean my version is too old?
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: I'm just confused because the wall man page is just "wall filename"
[00:23] <ubbe> edbian, http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/How_to_use_udp_broadcast
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: ooooooooooooooo
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: ha ha, thanks!
[00:23] <ubbe> edbian, thats a python one but i've never tried that
[00:23] <edbian> ubbe: Is it in the repos?
[00:24] <ubbe> edbian, did wall send it to all pc's
[00:24] <Hydrosis> Where did you downlaod UrbanTerror from is the officail site is down, JoeSomebody?
[00:24] <ilSoldier> hah "can't find package ntfs-3g"
[00:24] <Pelo> evening folks
[00:24] <edbian> ubbe: no, that's what I'm trying to figure out how to do
[00:24] <JoeSomebody> http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Urban-Terror-Download-30754.html
[00:24] <Pelo> is there a command line ap to select restricted drivers ?
[00:24] <ubbe> edbian, try a udp broadcast
[00:24] <edbian> ilSoldier: Check your repos.
[00:24] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, jockey-text I believe
[00:25] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, thanks
[00:25] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, you can also just apt-get install the relevant packages, but knowing which ones you need is probably your problem in the first place ;p
[00:25] <ubbe> edbian, there might be a program but i know commercial firewalls can do it and so can a C program but i've never had a need for it
[00:25] <Hydrosis> That should have worked, JoeSomebody
[00:25] <ubbe> edbian, just curious what you doing?
[00:26] <ilSoldier> repos?
[00:26] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I actualy know which ones, I think I ust apt-get installed  nvidia-173*  that should do it I think, don't you ?
[00:26] <edbian> ubbe: Messing with my brother!
[00:26] <ubbe> LOL
[00:26] <jamieleshaw> haha
[00:26] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, dkms status -> check for the relevant driver for your kernel
[00:26] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, might just need a reboot, yep
[00:26] <Shanthi> How to add podcasts to the device ? Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod (1st gen Mini) or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically. I managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:27] <Hydrosis> JoeSomebody - http://www.urbanterror.net/page.php?6
[00:27] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, i am on 9.10
[00:27] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I just saw dkms scroll by during the install I'M gonna assume it did the job
[00:27] <ubbe> edbian, wall is only on the same machine so it wont work for sending
[00:27] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, in that case, simply closing everything and restarting gdm might do the trick
[00:27] <cwillu_at_work> (if it doesn't, just reboot :p)
[00:27]  * Pelo finds doing the config of a command line system by remote a bit unnverving 
[00:28] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, no gdm, that was the point of this little reinstall, old comp to be used as a media server (connected to the tv), I'M getting rid of everything but the bare essentials
[00:28] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, doing the same for a remote system that controls the gates of a bulk weigher is more unnerving :p
[00:29] <|black|> I have a question regarding Intel C2D E7400
[00:29] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, then why do you need nvidia?
[00:29] <|black|> can any one help please?
[00:29] <cwillu_at_work> oh, _to_ be used
[00:29] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, just ask, don't ask to ask
[00:29] <|black|> nice
[00:29] <mmarc__> hi
[00:29] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I want hte proper video driver to run the tv ,  and the application I'M gonna be using to put .... stuff on the tv from the comp
[00:29] <|black|> mate I am just confused my processor is 64bit or 32bit?
[00:29] <mmarc__> is it possible to install eclipse 3.4 (not 3.5) from repos for Karmic?
[00:29] <|black|> I know it supports 64 but is it native?
[00:30] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, if it supports a 64bit operating system, then it's 64bit
[00:30] <|black|> like will I get performance boost if I switch from ubuntu 32bit to 64bit?
[00:30] <cwillu_at_work> you can't install a 64bit os on a 32bit machine, it just won't work
[00:30] <JoeSomebody> Hydrosis, my first download was too quick (said complete but lied i think) this one should work 3% so far
[00:30] <Bob_Dole> All Core 2's are 64bit capable.
[00:30] <|black|> I know its supported
[00:30] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, do you know how to auto-login to a cli system and auto start apps ?
[00:30] <cwillu_at_work> probably, although some things will be more of a headache to get working (flash comes to mind)
[00:31] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, which, graphical stuff?
[00:31] <Real_Christmas> If I boot a Ubuntu Live CD and install openssh-server, then the user ubuntu hasn't got any password. How come? And what would happend if anyone try to connect to my computer using ubuntu@ip-address ?
[00:31] <|black|> so it guarentees that I wil get perform. boost?
[00:31] <Bob_Dole> |black| also, 64bit only boosts performance for some applications, but makes everything require a little extra ram.
[00:31] <Hydrosis> |mate|: open a terminal window and type "uname -m" without the quotation makrs.  Tell me what it says
[00:31] <|black|> I think 2Gb is adequate for that?
[00:31] <switch10_> Real_Christmas: the password on the live cd is blank
[00:31] <cwillu_at_work> meh, the additional ram usage really is negligable in most cases
[00:31] <ilSoldier> how do I get the ntfs-3g option for mounting? is it just my version of ubuntu?
[00:31] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, from scratch ,  I want this box to start this one app when it boots,  freevo , it requires x but I can manage that bit,
[00:31] <switch10_> Real_Christmas: and the user name is ubuntu
[00:31] <|black|> is any one here with a core 2 duo?
[00:32] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, investigate xinit and company
[00:32] <JoeSomebody> i just got a used hp printer psc 1350 for a present, any chance of it working in linux?
[00:32] <Bob_Dole> ENcoding things, and compressing/decompressing are the main things to benefit from 64bit. Are you doing those things?
[00:32] <Pelo> ilSoldier, there is an app called ntfs-config I beleive,  it'S gui , just install it and look for it in the menus
[00:32] <Bob_Dole> |black| *ENcoding things, and compressing/decompressing are the main things to benefit from 64bit. Are you doing those things?
[00:32] <switch10_> |black|:  do you have more than 3.5 gigs of ram?  if so you will see a performance boost from using 64 bit.  otherwise stick with 32
[00:32] <JoeSomebody> i mean ubuntu?
[00:32] <Real_Christmas> switch10_: Yes, I know, but what will happend if anyone tries to connect using ssh ubuntu@ip-address when the password is blank? Will they get into my computer then?
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, you'll want to use upstart jobs, which really are quite simple (you can use /etc/init/tty1 as an example, and look at the other ones as needed.  Most of them are _way_ more complicated than they need to be however, due to their convertion from old-style /etc/init.d/ scripts)
[00:33] <adac> Is there a karmic skype deb on skype.com?
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, blank passwords can't be used for remote logins by default
[00:33] <|black|> Bob_Dole, I do coding and processor intesive work will it help, and I have 2gb but getting another 2gb stick is not a prob
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> or any login for that matter
[00:33] <switch10_> Real_Christmas: yup they could if you have an ssh server installed...
[00:33] <gui7> ello
[00:33] <|black|> gui7, hi mate
[00:33] <cwillu_at_work> switch10_, no, they couldn't
[00:33] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, nice to know. What would be the best way to get it working. Set a password for root?
[00:34] <Bob_Dole> |black| I don't actually know for that. it might, and the extra ram can be helpful.
[00:34] <minimec> adac: the debian/ubuntu package on the skype page does the job, as it is a 'static library version'
[00:34] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, switch10_, pam disables password authentication for accounts with no passwords by default
[00:34] <danopia> http://is.gd/5AAh1
[00:34] <switch10_> cwillu_at_work: why not?
[00:34] <Whizpopthat> minimec: i'm sure i followed the instructions correctly and it may have failed lol.
[00:34] <JoeSomebody> hp printer just windows and mac on the website
[00:34] <Whizpopthat> minimec: i'm going to try a reboot in a minute.
[00:34] <switch10_> cwillu_at_work: ah ok
[00:34] <gui7> anyone know what the easiest way to convert a .avi to a DVD is? i dont need any fancy menus or subtitles, i just need it to play on my (normal) dvd player :)
[00:34] <|black|> Bob_Dole, coz I heard maybe a rumor, that 64bit is supported in C2D but not native (in hardware)
[00:34] <|black|> only thats y m confused
[00:34] <Pelo> ok thanks cwillu_at_work I'll look into that, I'll just try to get this box working properly for now , I can deal with the automated stuff later
[00:34] <minimec> Whizpopthat: It's christmas. Maybe you get your gift ;)
[00:34] <adac> minimec, http://www.skype.com/intl/de/download/skype/linux/choose/ It says #  Ubuntu 8.04
[00:34] <adac> Ubuntu 8.10+ 32-bit
[00:34] <adac> Ubuntu 8.10+ 64-bit  is it ok to take one of those THEN?
[00:34] <FloodBot2> adac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: So it will not be possible to login using ssh without first setting a password for user ubuntu?
[00:35] <JoeSomebody> what are you all using for printers in linux?
[00:35] <newser> by any chance anyone knows how to test if a gps receiver is working with gpsd?
[00:35] <|black|> my only question is can any one tell me is core 2 duo better at 64bit than 32?
[00:35] <Whizpopthat> not quite christmas yet, 4:35 the 24th.
[00:35] <Real_Christmas> user ubuntu at a Live CD, I mean.
[00:35] <gui7> is there an easier way to convert avi to dvd than this?: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/AVI_to_DVD
[00:35] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, yes, or installing an ssh public key in the /home/ubuntu/.ssh/authorized_keys file, which is strongly preferred
[00:35] <newser> by any chance anyone knows how to test if a gps receiver is working with gpsd? or if the gps receiver is being detected at all?
[00:35] <Bob_Dole> |black| Core 2 Duo is native 64bit. Some of the chips preceding it are too, but very few. Native 64bit doesn't mean it has the physical addressing space of 64bit, because NO ONE needs that yet.
[00:35] <minimec> adac: yes. I use the 32bit version on karmic ;)
[00:35] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, (ssh-keygen on your local machine, and then copy the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub into authorized_keys on the remote)
[00:35] <shanezilla> anyone have any good tutorials for vsftpd
[00:35] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: To avoid brute force?
[00:36] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, basically, yes.
[00:36] <Whizpopthat> minimec: not quite christmas yet, 4:35 the 24th.
[00:36] <adac> |black|, I thought so. But I'm not really sure bout that
[00:36] <|black|> Bob_Dole, Thanks that all I needed to know and yes 4gb is enuf at ram 16gb is not yet main stream
[00:36] <Bob_Dole> 64bit address space= 16 Exabytes= more RAM than actually exists, probably.
[00:36] <adac> minimec, thx!
[00:36] <ilSoldier> so ntfs-config should come with ubuntu?
[00:36] <minimec> Whizpopthat: well here it's the 25th 1:30 am ;)
[00:37] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, by default, any user account with a password can be logged into remotely if sshd is installed, you have to explicitly disable password authentication in that case (publics keys will always work, its just that the password will _also_ work)
[00:37] <minimec> adac: np
[00:37] <|black|> Bob_Dole, means any app/OS compiled for 64bit will be faster, provided I have enuf ram
[00:37] <Shanthi> I'm a noob, is this not the correct forum for this question ? No responses so far ...  How to add podcasts to the device ? Amarok 2.2.0 KDE 4.3.2 on Ubuntu Karmic (9.10): I subscribed to podcasts and they are in Home->Playlists->Podcasts. However, I can't find a way to add it to ipod (1st gen Mini) or how to synchronize with the ipod automatically. I managed to get my ipod showing under 'Home->Local Music'.
[00:37] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, but it's not possible to login if the ubuntu password is blank? Not for anyone?
[00:37] <Whizpopthat> minimec: figured so. I'm going to reboot and if it doesn't work correctly I'm going to uninstall and do a clean brand new install of 9.10
[00:37] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Or will they get in without any password prompt?
[00:37] <|black|> Shanthi, I dont know if it answers your question but I use rythmbox with my IPod
[00:37] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, unless you've done the authorized keys thing correct.
[00:37] <minimec> Whizpopthat: You don't need to!!!
[00:37] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, no, they won't be allowed a connection
[00:37] <Bob_Dole> |black| more or less. not everything will benefit though.
[00:38] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, thanks fpr all info.
[00:38] <Real_Christmas> *for
[00:38] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, cwillu.com for instance has a root account with no password
[00:38] <|black|> Bob_Dole, but still there is + not -ve in switching to 64 right?
[00:38] <cwillu_at_work> which disables it for most intents and purposes
[00:38] <nanotube> so, i just got my dell vostro a90, aka dell mini9 (woot!), preloaded with a dellified ubuntu 8.04 (meh). i want to upgrade to ubuntu karmic. but i don't much favor the 'netbook' interface, and am thinking of just using the 'standard' desktop ubuntu 9.10 install. question is: am i missing anything important by doing that (i.e, anything besides the (imho, crappy) netbook interface) ?
[00:38] <gui7> what's the easiest way to conver an avi to dvd?
[00:38] <Whizpopthat> minimec: Well I'll figure something out eventually i suppose.
[00:38] <rhett> i put this in an init file: exec command >> file.log 2>&1 , but i don't see it logging
[00:38] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, and you use keys? Wouldn't it be more secure to use both password AND key?
[00:38] <switch10_> gui7: devede
[00:39] <minimec> Whizpopthat: Do that reboot and cross your fingers ;)
[00:39] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, when you create a key, it prompts for a passphrase to encrypt the key itself
[00:39] <msmarc> is there a way to access the bios on power pc macs?
[00:39] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, adding an addition password doesn't buy much of anything, no
[00:39] <Bob_Dole> |black| a tiny amount of programs don't work on 64bit. last I heard, and the flash plugin is unstable if you use the default one.
[00:39] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, note that key-based logins bypasses the password completely
[00:39] <Whizpopthat> minimec: okay will do, if it doesn't work ill be back :P lol. Well, I'll still let you know anyways... Rebooting.
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> msmarc:  theres some special key seqwuence you use to get to the ppc macs firmware but they use different terms for the stuff
[00:40] <switch10_> gui7, http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[00:40] <|black|> Bob_Dole, thats agreeable.
[00:40] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Ok, nice to know.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> ive never had Linux work decently on my old PPC imac. its now a doorstop basically.
[00:40] <newser> Ihave  a gps receiver attached to the computer via usb. How can I know if it is being detected or not?
[00:40] <|black|> Bob_Dole, one last question mate, can i upgrade to 64 or do i need re install?
[00:40] <Bob_Dole> |black| I think you gotta reinstall
[00:40] <msmarc> i'm running ubuntu on my power pc mac and it works pretty well
[00:41] <gui7> switch10_, ive tried devede, is it normal for it to take ages to encode?
[00:41] <|black|> newser, after plugging it in type: dmesg | tail in shell
[00:41] <msmarc> Only stuff I don't have is flash and I can't get it to hibernate
[00:41] <|black|> Bob_Dole, that sux a bit but will give it a shot
[00:41] <Real_Christmas> Another question. I want to helt a friend to install Vista in his computer but is it possible to do this remote using Linux in some way? He has got Vista recovery CDs but I want to do it through Linux remote. Is it possible?
[00:41] <switch10_> gui7:  ya it takes a while, but it is the best
[00:41] <gui7> switch10_, oki thx :D
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> msmarc:  in my old imacDV the silly display was always shifted over to the left about 4 characters.. made it a pain to use.
[00:41] <Bob_Dole> I have a PowerPC mac that can't get X to work. it makes me sad. :( I have another PPC mac that ought to just work though.
[00:42] <newser> |black|, what do you mean with tail in shell?
[00:42] <msmarc> I wish i could get my stupid mac to hibernate then I could use wake-on-lan
[00:42] <cwillu_at_work> newser, open a terminal and type "dmesg | tail" to show the last 10 lines of dmesg
[00:42] <|black|> newser, type this exactly in shell "dmesg | tail"
[00:42] <Bob_Dole> Linux is the only future for these old PowerPC Macs. Apple's abandoned them. :/
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> I tried to set up my old imac with OS-9 and just a telnet client/ssh client.. but it was hard to even find a  telnet/ssh client that wasent some sort of crippled 'share'ware.
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  They make good doorstops
[00:43] <|black|> newser, dmesg is a command that shows you some hardware info like whats plugged in usb and what ubuntu did with that
[00:43] <msmarc> haha I want a server not a doorstop
[00:43] <|black|> newser, and when combined with | tail in the end, you discard the lenghty output and get only last 10 lines
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure they even make good servers...
[00:43] <|black|> newser, not a requirement just to make things more readable
[00:43] <Real_Christmas> Is it possible to reinstall Windows Vista using some kind of remote access to for example a Ubuntu Live CD? I want to reinstall Vista using Vista recovery CD but doing it remote from my computer having Ubuntu Linux.
[00:43] <newser> |black|, thanks
[00:44] <|black|> newser, no problem
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> Real_Christmas:  that would be a neat trick..
[00:44] <jabagawee> Real_Christmas, not that i know of
[00:44] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, I can think of approaches, but they probably wouldn't work without lots and lots of testing, and even then they probably still wouldln't work
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> use virtualbox, to access the actual physical hard drive and use it to boot xp. :)
[00:45] <preecher> is they a program for ubuntu that will let me "split" a movie and then burn it on 2 cd's
[00:45] <switch10_> preecher: avidemux will split it for you
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> preecher:  devede and i think avidumux let you make those old style cd-movie disks..
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> i forget what they were even called back then.
[00:45] <switch10_> preecher: whats the file type??
[00:46] <Snausages> Dr_Willis: VCDs
[00:46] <preecher> Swish, and Dr_Willis  thanks -)
[00:46] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Well, I think the easiest way would be to use the telephone, but the question is interesting. I will get into this problem many times, I think.
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> I cant ever recall actually watching a 'vcd'
[00:46] <Snausages> those are very harsh low res, but anything can decode them
[00:46] <switch10_> Dr_willlis: the quality was so bad
[00:46] <cwillu_at_work> Dr_Willis, we had some in highschool
[00:46] <Snausages> Dr_Willis: it's a regional thing...  they were huge in asia but found very little attention elsewhere.
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> Wife got a portable dvd player for xmas - that has a usb and sd slots.. it can play mpeg4 videos. :)
[00:47] <Whizpopthat> minimec: Reboot helped, my wireless works! I am on it currently with LAN cable unhooked :) Thanks so much for your help! Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> Videos have came a loooong way..
[00:47] <ilSoldier> do I really need ntfs-3g just to read/write to ntfs partitions?
[00:47]  * cwillu_at_work unplugs Whizpopthat 
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  'just to' ? if you want to read/write.. you use ntfs-3g....
[00:48] <ilSoldier> oh ok :-)
[00:48] <Snausages> ilSoldier: I think there are other methods, but that 3g thing is by far the slickest
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  if you want read only - you dont need ntfs-3g.
[00:48] <jabagawee> what's the proper way to tar up a partition to back it up and untar after an install?
[00:48] <minimec> Whizpopthat: So you got your christmas gift... ;) Merry Christmas & a happy New Year too...
[00:48] <jabagawee> keeping permissions and symlinks and whatnot
[00:48] <ilSoldier> I try to install it but ubuntu says missing dependencies. maybe it's this trash usb stick version of ubuntuu?
[00:48] <Whizpopthat> minimec: Yup :) see ya.
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  you may want to check out the 'fsarchiver' tool. (but its not in the repos yet)
[00:49] <ilSoldier> I have ubuntu 6.10 - the edgy eft - released oct 06
[00:49] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, tar czvf backup.tgz /path/to/files
[00:49] <jabagawee> cwillu_at_work, thanks
[00:49] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, good tip
[00:49] <|black|> Bob_Dole, thanks mate you helped alot!
[00:49] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, hey, it's me again
[00:49]  * cwillu_at_work hides
[00:49] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, using relative paths is preferable
[00:49] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, still no luck with the monitor, windows couldn't read it either
[00:50] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, avoids the "burn up your rootfs by accident" syndrome of storing absolute paths in a tar
[00:50] <jabagawee> cwillu_at_work, explain?
[00:50] <cwillu_at_work> jabagawee, tarballs contain file paths
[00:50] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, i'm pretty close to giving up and just living with the current resolution
[00:50] <cwillu_at_work> if those paths are absolute, and you extract them without providing an explicit target location, it'll overwrite the existing files in those locations
[00:51] <|black|> cwillu_at_work, thanks mate
[00:51] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, any idea where nvidia-settings reads its options from though? it has one resolution more than the standard "Display" screen and xrandr
[00:51] <cwillu_at_work> RandomizeR, it does its own detection, causing all sorts of grief and hilarity
[00:51] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, yeah, i'll say!
[00:51] <gme30066> hieo! is anyone familiar with iptables? :-)
[00:51] <cwillu_at_work> specifically, it has its own methods of talking to the nvidia driver
[00:52] <trevor> does anyone in here have a good working knowledge of virtualbox
[00:52] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, yes
[00:52]  * cwillu_at_work is an administrative god :p
[00:53] <cwillu_at_work> or cwillu_at_work needs to sleep more, not sure which
[00:53] <RandomizeR> cwillu_at_work, well, thanks again for your help, i'll probably go sleep now :(
[00:53] <trevor> i have windows 7 in vbox right now running, but i cannot install guest additions for seamless mode
[00:53] <trevor> is there something else i must do'?
[00:53] <RandomizeR> thanks for your help everyone :)
[00:53] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, where does it fail?
[00:53] <trevor> when i click it it does nothing
[00:54] <Pelo> can someone tell me how to add sound to my command line system
[00:54] <Pelo> ??
[00:54] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, when you click what?
[00:54] <RandomizeR> night..
[00:54] <trevor> install guest additions
[00:54] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, have you downloaded the guest additions?
[00:54] <trevor> probably not, where do i go to do that
[00:54] <trevor> i havent used vbox in over a year
[00:54] <Pelo> trevor, you need to dl the guest addition file from somehere and mout them as a cd for instalation , better ask in the channel of the VM you are using
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> virtualbox's site (sun).  It's supposed to be seamless, but there's version numbers in the path that change, etc
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, ^
[00:55] <gme30066> anyone familiar with iptables?
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, all it is is an iso that gets mounted as a cdrom, which autoruns a device driver installer;  you can do the same process by hand
[00:55] <trevor> sweet thanks cwillu_at_work
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> trevor, so it's just a matter of finding the download
[00:55] <MK13> does/did anyone have a problem where the speakers crackle when a sound is about to be played on Karmic?
[00:55] <cwillu_at_work> gme30066, you'll have more luck if you just ask the question :p
[00:56] <adac> MK13, yes me. Did you solve it? It is really annoying
[00:56] <cwillu_at_work> adac, MK13, afaik it's pulseaudio being respawned after autosuspending due to idle;  I think this can be disabled in the pulseaudio config files
[00:56] <gme30066> okee ;-)  Do these rules make sense for protecting an Asterisk box that's publicly accessible? http://skitch.com/gellenburg/nc6ck/firewall-rules
[00:56] <MK13> adac, no i am just seeing if anyone else had it and if they have fixed it yet. What computer do you have?
[00:57] <cwillu_at_work> it may affect the ability of other applications that aren't alsa/pulse compatible to play sound thuough
[00:57] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, thnx will try that
[00:57] <Pelo> how do I tell what video driver I'm using again ?
[00:57] <cwillu_at_work> gme30066, the astericks channel can probably give a better idea about that
[00:57] <gme30066> yeah.
[00:57] <najifu> can you halp me?
[00:57] <adac> MK13, I see!
[00:57] <nanotube> so, i just got my dell vostro a90, aka dell mini9 (woot!), preloaded with a dellified ubuntu 8.04 (meh). i want to upgrade to ubuntu karmic. but i don't much favor the 'netbook' interface, and am thinking of just using the 'standard' desktop ubuntu 9.10 install. question is: am i missing anything important by doing that (i.e, anything besides the (imho, crappy) netbook interface) ?
[00:57] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, top of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there's probably better places :p
[00:57] <gme30066> i can't join #asterisk. I'm getting this error: http://skitch.com/gellenburg/nc6p1/colloquy
[00:57] <Pelo> najifu, you need to ask a quesiton
[00:58] <najifu> my ubuntu eror.
[00:58] <cwillu_at_work> gme30066, register your nick
[00:58] <cwillu_at_work> !register | gme30066
[00:59] <adac> MK13, you mean my hardware? Well selfbuilt: quadcore, 2 gigs ram, nivdia gforce card.
[00:59] <Pelo> najifu,  you need to state your problem completely , if you don'T get an answer right away , be patient and ask again after a few minutes, It's a busy channel here,  but you need at tell us about the problem  "my ubuntu error" doesn't tell us much
[00:59] <najifu> hello..
[00:59] <MK13> adac, well i was trying to see if it had to do w/ specific audio cards... but if cwillu_at_work is right then it is pulseaudio that is doing it itself
[00:59] <|Infected|> Hello.
[01:00] <gme30066> cool thanks
[01:00] <adac> MK13, It must be a software 'bug' Cause i only experienced that problem since my last bigger upgrade
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  you wont miss much. You might have to some how disable 'maximus'  thats the app that fullscreens everything.  It can cause issues with the normal ubuntu gnome desktop
[01:01] <|black|> any one knows that migrating from 32-64 requires a fresh install or i can upgrade ubuntu?
[01:01] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, you wouldn'T have any notion on how to install sound support on a cli machine would you ?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  you cant upgrade from 32bit to 64bit
[01:02] <|black|> Dr_Willis, Any idea to save my current setup and restore it?
[01:02] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, apt-get install alsa-soimethingsomething
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  I just keep /home/ on its own partition. and archive any configs i want to save.
[01:02] <freebse> Guys I experienced the same problems on GNU/Debian unstable and the only reason so far is to fully disable pulse, a blacklist is what we are going to do, as far as I know right now it is not really fixable in an easy way
[01:02] <cwillu_at_work> Pelo, alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-tools
[01:02] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, where would the config file for autosuspending/etc. be?
[01:02] <sebsebseb> freebse: #debian
[01:03] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, you are an angel
[01:03] <sebsebseb> freebse: oh nevermind
[01:03] <cwillu_at_work> MK13, with the rest of the config files :p
[01:03] <freebse> sebsebseb: I just said :) nevermind
[01:03] <cwillu_at_work> MK13, start in /etc, look for pulseaudio'y looking things :p
[01:03] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: well, i take it if i do a fresh install of 9.10 desktop edition, maximus won't even be there? (and if it is, i bet unchecking it from the session startup list will do the trick anyway)
[01:03] <|black|> Dr_Willis, alright... So I am downloading right now it says AMD64 in file name, is that also intented for intel core 2 duo?
[01:03] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, i don't see anysettings like it... i think it is /etc/pulse/
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> nanotube:  correct. Maximus is part of the netbook remix.
[01:03] <freebse> sebsebseb: I just wanted to inform guys that on the same software base on sid we have the same problem
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  amd64 means '64bit'
[01:04] <nanotube> Dr_Willis: well, ok, i'm going for the std desktop edition then. wish me luck. :)
[01:04] <cwillu_at_work> MK13, grep suspend /etc/pulse/*
[01:04] <|black|> Dr_Willis, still thats confusing tho :/
[01:04] <sebsebseb> freebse: well I hadn't read that stuff before typing
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> |black|:  no its not..  amd had 64bit first.. so thats what it was named...
[01:04] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, yes.  Intel got to be the default name for 32bit, amd gets to be the default name for 64 bit :p
[01:05]  * Dr_Willis waits for 128bit
[01:05] <|black|> Dr_Willis, cwillu_at_work: The picture comes in focus :D
[01:05]  * |black| wakes Dr_Willis up!
[01:05] <MK13> cwillu_at_work, much more effective than searching with my own eye, thanks
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> part of knowing computers and linux.. = knowing the history of computers and linux.
[01:05] <cwillu_at_work> that's what intel gets for making a 64bit platform that wasn't compatible in any meaningful way with their existing 32bit arch :p
[01:05] <freebse> The Problem is Iceweasel or like you say FIrefox... the bug is known, and it is on the biglist allready... anyway to fix it disable pulse
[01:05]  * Dr_Willis still wants to know where the N went in the 'umount' (unmount) command.
[01:05] <|black|> I agree first true 64bit revolution goes to AMD
[01:06] <cwillu_at_work> freebse, sorry, fix what?
[01:06] <adac> Dr_Willis, what did N option do?
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> adac:  the command is 'unmount' but its spelt 'umount' with no n
[01:07] <freebse> cwillu_at:work: no sund for Iceweasel or other allplications while pulse is installed and other known problems
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> I also find it odd that nvidia-xconfig is a CLI app and nvida-settings is a X gui app.. :)
[01:07] <adac> Dr_Willis, ahh now I see ;) hahah I guess it is already too late here. I should go to bed soon :P
[01:07] <cwillu_at_work> freebse, that's not a problem we're experiencing
[01:07] <cwillu_at_work> I can assure you that I have sound in firefox via pulseaudio
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Pulse audio and firefox works here.
[01:08] <|black|> When they dont i use killall pulseaudio :D
[01:08] <freebse> I can too, but this is a major problem, anyway ignor me in that case ;)
[01:08] <ilSoldier> hey
[01:08] <Hydrosis> Pulse hates me.  Doesnt work for games, I get errors in my console with mplayer vids etc.
[01:08] <ilSoldier> I installed ntfs-3g and ntfs config
[01:09] <cwillu_at_work> freebse, done and done
[01:09] <|black|> freebse, try "killall pulseaudio"
[01:09] <Socom> hello there ^_^ ?
[01:09] <Hydrosis> killall or pkill or xkill should do the job for individual processes
[01:09] <minimec> freebse: If you have some problems with your pulseaudio configuratioin, first install pavucontrol. It  gives you a lot of info and options for pulseaudio.
[01:09] <|black|> Socom, speak!
[01:09] <Socom> how are you doing ? black :) ?
[01:09] <|black|> Socom, I am half asleep if its not for my cigarettes....
[01:09] <ilSoldier> how do I know if ntfs-3g is working fine on my computer?
[01:10] <freebse> minimec: thx a lot, but this is not the problem over here on some installations
[01:10] <cwillu_at_work> Hydrosis, xkill isn't like pkill or killall, it only kills the process by the coincidence that most x apps die when they're disconnected from x
[01:10] <Hydrosis> cwillu_at_work, thanks for the info. I'll read up on the command more later.
[01:10] <Socom> this is my first time
[01:10] <ilSoldier> I did man ntfs-3g
[01:10] <ilSoldier> seems to be there
[01:10] <Socom> I want to be Game Developer
[01:11] <|black|> ilSoldier, try deleting C:/Windows
[01:11] <cwillu_at_work> ilSoldier, don't
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> islington:  use the ntfs-3g command to mount a ntfs fiklesystem
[01:11] <MK13> adac, i no longer have the crackle :D
[01:11] <marcel> Hi all together. Is anyone here who has some experience with nvidia drivers for graphical cards and would help me get compiz running?
[01:11] <ilSoldier> well I have to be able to mount the partition first!
[01:11] <cwillu_at_work> |black|, don't make me sic the ops on you :p
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> islington:  or use -t ntfs-3g when mouinting it
[01:11] <|black|> ilSoldier, I hope you understood the joke part?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  ntfs-3g is the command that can moint them..
[01:11] <`mOOse`> anybody ever inject an iso with additional files in ubuntu? If so, what did you use to do it?
[01:11] <adac> MK13, :) Can you post your changes on a pastie?
[01:11] <|black|> cwillu_at_work, I dare not :)
[01:12] <dan2> hey guys
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> !info kiso | `mOOse`
[01:12] <|black|> Socom, its a long journey son
[01:12] <`mOOse`> thanks doc :-)
[01:12] <Socom> I have problems with partitions !! swap and / and root and and and
[01:12] <dan2> I have a 1080p screen attached, but every time I login in takes it from what looks like 1080p in GDM, to 1680x1050 and I have to continuously do this everytime I log in and out
[01:12] <dan2> is there a solution to this?
[01:12] <dan2> (change it to 1080p)
[01:12] <MK13> adac, sure just give me a sec
[01:12] <dan2> I tried rewriting X config 100x
[01:12] <dan2> doesn't work
[01:12] <|black|> any one interested in some art?
[01:12] <dan2> it's labeled properly
[01:12] <FloodBot2> dan2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <ilSoldier> well okay ntfs-3g is there but it doesn't seem to be working with the mount command
[01:13] <Hydrosis> dan2 are you trying to change screen resolution?
[01:13] <adac> MK13, kk
[01:13] <|black|> ilSoldier, what mount command are you giving exactly?
[01:13] <Mistletoe> Hey, im having problems with the Karmic live cd
[01:13] <dan2> Hydrosis, I want the screen resolution to stay 1080p when I log in and out, but it won't do that, it always reverts to 1680
[01:13] <dan2> Hydrosis, at the login screen for GDM it looks like it's 1080, then it downsizes
[01:13] <ilSoldier> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp
[01:14] <marcel> who can help me getting my nvidia graphical card running?
[01:14] <trevor> i should probably just be running xp in a virtualmachine, 32 bit 7 seems like a little much
[01:14] <|black|> ilSoldier, and whats the output of that?
[01:14] <Socom> black , I like photoshop
[01:14] <Hydrosis> I have the same problem but with 800x600.  I can manually change it but it doesnt do a damn thing if I restart.  Changing the .config fils does nothing either.  Read the last part of this and see if you can figure out a solution with this data. - http://chvnx.com/post/280205781/change-screen-resolution-in-linux-ubuntu
[01:14] <Hydrosis> dan2
[01:15] <dan2> k
[01:15] <ilSoldier> |black| pastebin.com/m27c8af56
[01:15] <dan2> thanks
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> ilSoldier:  you did make the directory /home/ubuntu/xp first?
[01:15] <MK13> the really long "###' lines show what i commented out, and show the beginning of each file
[01:16] <ilSoldier> Dr_Willis yes sir
[01:16] <minimec> marcel: first... try to run >Administration >Hardware Driver from the menu...
[01:16] <MK13> adac,  the really long "###' lines show what i commented out, and show the beginning of each file : http://pastebin.com/d755554d9
[01:16] <|black|> ilSoldier, thats strange its giving output like you are typing just mount
[01:16] <ilSoldier> Dr_Willis even if I didn't, same thing happens
[01:17] <ilSoldier> |black| when I type just mount it says "mount: only root can do that"
[01:17] <|black|> ilSoldier, I tried: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /home/ubuntu/xp and output is as it should be...
[01:17] <Mistletoe> Im having problems with the 9.10 live cd, when I boot up, I can only see Exampls, Install Ubuntu 9.10, and the wallpaper
[01:17] <Mistletoe> Nothing else
[01:17] <|black|> ilSoldier, i mean sudo mount
[01:17] <Mistletoe> Examples*
[01:17] <duffydack> ok thats just sad... ffmpeg + medibuntu + flv to mp3 = no way...
[01:17] <cwillu_at_work> Mistletoe, no panel?
[01:17] <Mistletoe> No
[01:17] <imaginativeone> hi all...
[01:17] <|black|> Mistletoe, there's all that there is
[01:17] <|black|> imaginativeone, hey
[01:17] <imaginativeone> how do I access my dvd writer via terminal?
[01:17] <cwillu_at_work> no, there should be a panel
[01:17] <krishn1> Sound not working in firefox browser when I open youtube
[01:17] <duffydack> I had to compile the latest to do it.  thats really crappy...
[01:17] <Hydrosis> |black| is your NTSF it's own drive or is it a partition?
[01:18] <cwillu_at_work> Mistletoe, how much memory in the machine?  is the cd still doing anything?
[01:18] <Mistletoe> I dont see one
[01:18] <duffydack> flv to mp3? wtF?
[01:18] <Mistletoe> 1GB
[01:18] <|black|> imaginativeone, what you want to do?
[01:18] <Mistletoe> And is the CD still doing anything, no
[01:18] <Mistletoe> it isnt
[01:18] <krishn1> I am using FF3 ,and sound not working when I open youtube
[01:18] <|black|> Hydrosis, I have single hard and I have many partitions ntfs, and ext3, 4
[01:18] <adac> MK13, perfect, thx a lot! will try it out tomorrow immediately. Ok I'll go to bed it's already late. cu!!
[01:18] <imaginativeone> I have a dvd with photos on it
[01:18] <Hydrosis> daffyduck, there are FireFox scripts that take YouTube videos and export .mp3 audio from them,.
[01:18] <imaginativeone> BUT
[01:18] <imaginativeone> it has a huge crack on it
[01:18] <imaginativeone> I'm hoping to get as many photos as I can
[01:19] <|black|> imaginativeone, dude be wary coz it might break and damage your writer
[01:19] <imaginativeone> |black|: did you get that?
[01:19] <imaginativeone> ok
[01:19] <imaginativeone> I'll have to take the risk
[01:19] <marcel> minimec: Hi. If I do so, I just get the usual window - just with an empty list. (I use Karmic and the geforce 105m)
[01:19] <|black|> imaginativeone, happened to me once, but if you are willing then, "cd /media/cdrom"
[01:19] <imaginativeone> thanks
[01:19] <|black|> and you are in cdrom root directory
[01:20] <|black|> imaginativeone, if you have more than one drives
[01:20] <|black|> keep trying with "cd /media/cdrom0"
[01:20] <|black|> cdrom1 etc
[01:20] <|black|> hope that helps
[01:20] <|black|> any one up for a smoke?
[01:21] <minimec> marcel: first look at the search results on the net tell me
[01:22] <minimec> marcel: ... that your geforce 105m is a little problematic on linux. Try to find some more infos on the net. That could help.
[01:23] <zaphira13> HEy guys... which is the best partition setup for a ubuntu intallation?
[01:23] <marcel> minimec: I've been trying hard... cant find anything usefull
[01:23] <edbian> zaphira13: Well it's a matter of opinion partly.
[01:24] <edbian> zaphira13: The OS needs about 6 GB to be very comfortable.  Above that is just what you add with personal files
[01:24] <phix> zaphira13: use LVM
[01:24] <Ubuntu_User> How do I reset Wine's settings again in terminal?
[01:24] <phix> zaphira13: allows you to resize and create additional filesystems on the fly
[01:25] <phix> Ubuntu_User: rm -fr .wine
[01:25] <zaphira13> What is "LVM"?
[01:25] <phix> zaphira13: Logical Volume Manager
[01:25] <phix> or something like that
[01:25] <minimec> zaphira13: I use about 13gb for '/', 2GB 'Swap'.. the rest /home. If you use your computer as Web/mysql Server... + 3GB '/var'
[01:25] <phix> I start off with 10G for / but using LVM allows me to resize it if i need to in the future
[01:25] <cwillu_at_work> zaphira13, logical volume manager.  You probably don't want to use it
[01:25] <Church> LVM is the best thing out there for flexible diskspace managment
[01:25] <`mOOse`> Dr_Willis: Kiso worked perfectly - thanks again
[01:25] <edbian> zaphira13: linux volume manager.  It lets you create virtual partitions that span multiple hdds it lets you do lets of neat tricks
[01:26] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, 2gb of swap is probably excessive :p
[01:26] <phix> cwillu_at_work: Everyone should use LVM, it is so useful!
[01:26] <nfo4286> lvm?
[01:26]  * Church loves fact that linux lvm command syntax is almost same as in hpux
[01:26] <phix> nfo4286: you should use it too
[01:26] <zaphira13> YEah well, i usually use 10GB /, 6GB swap and the rest as home
[01:26] <edbian> phix: I disagree.  lvm is not perfect for everybody
[01:26] <nfo4286> well what is it?
[01:27] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: maybe.. but if you have a 60 GB hardisk and you want to do work with BIG files... ;)
[01:27] <phix> edbian: true. that is why evms exists too :)
[01:27] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, if your editor deals with big files by trying to pull them all into memory, get a different editor
[01:27] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, specifically, mmap'ing files uses no swap, because the file itself is the backing store :p
[01:28] <phix> nfo4286: it allows you to create filesystems that youcan resize on the fly if you want
[01:28] <nfo4286> hmmm gparted does the same thing no?
[01:28] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: So... What would be your max? 1GB or 512MB?
[01:28] <phix> nfo4286: it also support snapshots, meaning you can take a snapshot of say your email spool filesystem so you can back it up without needing to stop your email server
[01:29] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, unless you need to do hibernation, I'd generally stay around 1gb, maybe less
[01:29] <cwillu_at_work> we _really_ need to get something to dynamically create and remove swapfiles based on demand some day
[01:29] <Church> pvmove of lvm also is nice thingie to play with. with easily moving online filesystems between disks
[01:29] <gapi> witch wlan card is best in master mode for AP
[01:29] <`mOOse`> cwillu_at_work: and manipulate casper-rw too!
[01:29] <Church> cwillu_at_work: IIRC there was some project like that
[01:30] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: I am suspend/hibernating a lot... That's why I use 1:1 RAM:Swap ;)
[01:30] <cwillu_at_work> Church, there's been several :p
[01:30] <phix> nfo4286: yes but LVM is designed to be resized. normal partition are not, gparted cannot resize a mounted filesystem, LVM can
[01:30] <phix> ok well gparted can but you will loose data :)
[01:30] <cwillu_at_work> minimec, you may need more than 1:1 actually, depending on how much dirty memory there actually is
[01:31] <nfo4286> lol hmm sounds risky....resizing a mounted partition
[01:31] <gapi> now i have  one netgear wpn311 i think and no go in master mode
[01:31] <ilSoldier> woohoo
[01:31] <ilSoldier> I finally did it
[01:31] <ilSoldier> thank you guys
[01:31] <Church> lvm is like functionality of gparted/software raid united and with way more usuable syntax and ease of use
[01:31] <|black|> ilSoldier, happy for you
[01:31] <Pelo> I don't get this thing I had it working properly a minute ago
[01:31] <Church> + most of lvm actions can be done online
[01:32] <nanotube> trying to use usb-creator (on ubuntu 8.10), but it fails to detect my usb hdd, so nothing shows up in the list of usb disks. any ideas on this?
[01:32] <minimec> cwillu_at_work: I had no problems until now, but I agree with you... The first time I did a 2GB Swap I was asking myself some questions too ;)
[01:32] <zaphira13> I have 3GB of ram, how big should my swap be??
[01:32] <Church> without any need to unmount filesystems and alike
[01:32] <cwillu_at_work> zaphira13, how much memory do you have?
[01:32] <Church> zaphira13: depends on usage of course. there are some that live without swap at all :)0
[01:32] <Sinclair86> yea
[01:32] <Sinclair86> swap is mostly for older somputers
[01:32] <`mOOse`> I don't use swap
[01:32] <cwillu_at_work> Sinclair86, no, not true
[01:33] <Sinclair86> MOSTLY
[01:33] <`mOOse`> (but I'm using a flashdrive persistent install and have 1 gig ram)
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> no swap is just silly, waste of memory keeping things you're not actually using when you could use that memory to cache filesystem pages
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> Sinclair86, and mostly is just as wrong :p
[01:33] <Church> zaphira13: first describe how you're gonna use that box, what apps gonna run and such
[01:33] <`mOOse`> not silly - impossible ;-)
[01:33] <Sinclair86> google.com
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> `mOOse`, no, it's quite possible
[01:33] <cwillu_at_work> just... silly
[01:33] <`mOOse`> swap and casper-rw? yea?
[01:33] <`mOOse`> cool - point me!
[01:34] <zaphira13> I want to use sound picture and video editting programs 3d modeling etc
[01:35] <jarray521> Is there a public aide database for all the static files in the Ubuntu repository that can be used to check the integrity of files on one's local machine?
[01:36] <zaphira13> Church: I want to use sound picture and video editting programs 3d modeling etc
[01:36] <minimec> zaphira13: Well I would do 1:1 RAM:Swap... But that is my opinion... ;)
[01:36] <Church> zaphira13: dunno. imho 1-2 gigs should be enough to swapout idling/unused background stuff .. and if your box will actively swap way more then that, adding ram would do way better then insaneously grow swap and watch hdd blinking lights instead of doing some actual job on computer :)0
[01:37] <freeksh0w86> anyone know how to get past the "unable to find medium with live file system" error when trying to boot Ubuntu 9.10 desktop i386?
[01:37] <Church> zaphira13: 1:1 RAM:Swap would be needed if you need suspend to disk. otherwise imho overkill
[01:37] <freeksh0w86> other linux CDs didn't give me that error (but i can't use them for other reasons) and i checked the md5sum so i'm sure the CD is ok
[01:38] <gapi> bie
[01:38] <gapi> bye
[01:38] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86: booting from cd or flashdrive install?
[01:38] <myjiang0070> 大家好
[01:38] <freeksh0w86> a CD i burned as an iso image
[01:38] <zaphira13> Ummmm Ok, can you please fellow family members explain to me how swap is used by the system?
[01:38] <freeksh0w86> i burn other CD the exact same way and they booted
[01:38] <syk> !cn
[01:39] <Hydrosis> zaphira13, I believe you could think of it as a sort of extra memory.  Somone else can elaborate.
[01:39] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86:  did it ever work?
[01:39] <myjiang0070> exit
[01:39] <edbian> zaphira13: Swap is part of the hard drive that the system sets aside to use when the ram fills up.  If the ram filled completely then the system would panic and crash.  Windows causes swap the "page file"
[01:39] <|black|> zaphira13, you mean swap space?
[01:40] <edbian> zaphira13: windows calls* swap the...
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> `mOOse`, i burned other distro CD's and older Ubuntu CDs, and they all either work or have entirely different problems
[01:40] <Hydrosis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> i'm just wondering if i need to specify a new boot option before loading the disc...
[01:40] <|black|> zaphira13, what edbian said... Its basically a reserved space of hard disk in case of your ram is all filled, you run too many apps, then it switches the least active app from ram to hard (SWAPS)
[01:40] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86: but did this particular cd work? Because you might have a hosed file - you have to check the MD5's
[01:40] <freeksh0w86> i did check the md5sum
[01:41] <`mOOse`> k..that's what I was wondering - to make sure you didn't have corrupt files
[01:41] <zaphira13> Ok thanks :D
[01:41] <Church> zaphira13: there are 2 main points in linux swapping. 1) if there are some idling processes with almost no activity, it's better to swap them out and ram be used for something better, eg. file cache .. 2) for cases when you ran more stuff then fits in your ram .. you can use swap as kind of extra memory .. but you have to take into account, that disks are by magnitude of more then 2 orders slower then ram .. so heavily used swap = very slow.
[01:41] <craigbass1976> Anyone else noticed the Santa hat on vlc player icon?
[01:42] <freeksh0w86> i suspect the fact that i have a "dead" CD-ROM drive still plugged at the top (the working one is setup below) might confuse it
[01:42] <freeksh0w86> but i'm not sure
[01:42] <|black|> Church, way more than 2 :)
[01:42] <`mOOse`> quite possible
[01:42] <Church> i said - "main"
[01:42] <freeksh0w86> i just need a distro with working versions of Linux iPod sync software... looks like Ubuntu is bleeding edge and current so I hope to get it working somehow
[01:43] <|black|> freeksh0w86, rythmbox works I think
[01:43] <cwillu_at_work> freeksh0w86, for what kind of ipod?
[01:43] <freeksh0w86> i can't get gtkpod or amarok working with an iPod on PcLinuxOS, and rhythmbox won't even load in that distro...
[01:43] <freeksh0w86> i think pclinuxos uses old stable rpms
[01:43] <`mOOse`> I can't get amarok to work either :(
[01:44] <rumpsy> update repo
[01:44] <freeksh0w86> cwillu_at_work, i think it is some sort of 8g nano thing i dunno
[01:44] <krishn1> how to stop completely a cronjob
[01:44] <zaphira13> Which is better and why? ext3 or ext4?
[01:44] <Church> zaphira13: if takeing out file cache and just counting how much programs use themselves .. if it's > then 1.5x ram, then box is mostly spending time reading forth and back to/from swap, then actually doing job .. so for very heavy swapping one is better of with adjusting workload of apps or with adding ram
[01:44] <rumpsy> by updating repo you can get i thjink so!
[01:44] <cwillu_at_work> freeksh0w86, should work out of the box with rhythmbox in ubuntu
[01:44] <cwillu_at_work> zaphira13, ext4, being the later revision of ext3
[01:44] <freeksh0w86> cwillu_at_work, ok, i'm gonna run the CD check thing at the boot option and make sure the CD burned well
[01:44] <cwillu_at_work> extents allow for more space efficient usage of large drives, among other things
[01:44] <Hydrosis> rhythmbox works all the time, except when I add a lot fo new music to my archive.  Sometimes the audio dies and it says I dont ave the proper codecs installed.
[01:45] <freeksh0w86> if that doesn't work, perhaps i will unplug or re-locate my CD drive on the IDE bus
[01:45] <edbian> Hydrosis: Why don't you install the codecs you need silly
[01:45] <`mOOse`> if it's dead why do you keep it plugged in?
[01:45] <freeksh0w86> it died not too long ago i just forgot to unplug it
[01:45] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[01:45] <freeksh0w86> but the one below it works
[01:45] <craigbass1976> `mOOse`, keeps dust out.  :)
[01:45] <johntramp> hi i want to install ubuntu to a second partition on my netbook. this doesn't have a cd drive and i don't have a usb stick spare. what would be the best way to do the install? i guess there is a way to install from the distro i already have running?
[01:46] <freeksh0w86> yeah that too
[01:46] <`mOOse`> craigbass1976 :-)
[01:46] <Hydrosis> edbian: because I have them, it just lies to me like the dirty, low down, dirty mo-fo rhythmbox is.
[01:46] <`mOOse`> makes a good coffee mug holder too
[01:46] <`mOOse`> ...and you can scare the crap out of the cat with em too
[01:46] <edbian> Hydrosis: I saw rhythmbox hanging out what the wrong sort of crowd in a dark alley the other day
[01:47] <neezer> is there a conky channel?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> johntramp:  check out 'debootstrap' -  Good Luck
[01:47] <johntramp> ok, thanks Dr_Willis
[01:47] <Hydrosis> edbian: I dont doubt it.  Don;t need that riff-raff 'round here.
[01:47] <rumpsy> Any Indians!
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  not that ive noticed.. but the homepage/forums are very good for conky
[01:47] <craigbass1976> `mOOse`, remember the coke glass holder joke about 11 years ago?  It was an exe and when you clicked it, your cd drive popped open
[01:48] <Hydrosis> craigbass1976, I remember that.  I remember a lot of useless thinsg thanks to computers and the internet.
[01:48] <neezer> thanks dr. w
[01:48] <neezer> I'll check it oiut.
[01:48] <`mOOse`> it's a very old old joke yea...man...that sure makes me feel good to remember that stuff heh
[01:48] <cwillu_at_work> offtopic chatter -
[01:48] <Hydrosis> neezer:  #conky is a channel with help there
[01:48] <cwillu_at_work> offtopic chatter -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <neezer> great.
[01:48] <Hydrosis> I got help @ #conky 2 days ago.
[01:49] <edbian> Hydrosis: conky is neat
[01:49] <|black|> any one tried stellarium?
[01:49] <Hydrosis> edbian: let me take a screenshot of my conky config for you.  2 secs
[01:49] <|black|> Hydrosis, show me too
[01:50] <neezer> I'm just getting into conky, but so far I like it.
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> My Conky work - http://drop.io/dr_willis   :)
[01:50] <edbian> Hydrosis: awesome!
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  its a neat tool.. and very annoying in many ways. :)
[01:50] <neezer> I want to try to find a way to use ssh to see the auth.log file for my server
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  that shouldent be too hard.
[01:50] <neezer> while i am still on my lappy that is.
[01:51] <craigbass1976> neezer, is it var/log/secure?
[01:51] <neezer> server is at home, and lappy is with me away from home.
[01:51] <Hydrosis> I love conky, it's a must-have for my conputers.  For windows, there is a close alternative with a GUI called Samurize or something to that effect,.
[01:51] <|black|> neezer, its no big deal
[01:51] <neezer> just the var/log/auth.log file.
[01:51] <Hydrosis> my desktop: http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1162/screenshot5z.png
[01:51] <neezer> really just the last 5 or 10 lines.
[01:51] <cwillu_at_work> neezer, can you log into the server via ssh?
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> neezer:  conky can do that. of course tehres non-conky ways of monitoring a log file also
[01:52] <freeksh0w86> i did Check cd for defects, and a few minutes later i scroll over to the F1 console, it says "stdin error 0" then (intramfs) can't find medium with live file system"
[01:52] <neezer> yeah. i am actually logged into it right now.
[01:52] <neezer> it is running fah and I was checking the progress.
[01:53] <Hydrosis> here's my conky configs.  2 conky's running, one for system stats and network info and another for RSS feeds.  If you guys want my scripts, just ask.   http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1162/screenshot5z.png
[01:53] <edbian> Hydrosis: I love your desktop!
[01:53] <neezer> It is just a media server and barely ever has load on it.
[01:54] <Hydrosis> I love beer.
[01:55] <`mOOse`> mOO
[01:56] <hiexpo> my ? is how do i make a launcher for a program
[01:57] <edbian> hiexpo: You came to the right place!
[01:57] <hiexpo> kool
[01:57] <edbian> hiexpo: Do you know the terminal command to start the app?
[01:57] <hiexpo> yep
[01:57]  * Pelo buts out
[01:58] <Hydrosis> hiexpo: right click on pannel and choose add to pallen, then choose to add custom app
[01:58] <hiexpo> i get tired of typing all the time
[01:58] <Hydrosis> pannel**
[01:58] <Hydrosis> Dyslexia.
[01:58] <Hydrosis> :(
[01:58] <hiexpo> ok
[01:58] <edbian> hiexpo: Right click somewhere and select "create launcher"
[01:58] <edbian> hiexpo: it doesn't have to be in the panel
[01:59] <Hydrosis> I assumed he wants one in pannel, or else why have its own launcher?  That's just me, though.
[01:59] <edbian> hiexpo: You can also make a new menu entry but that is slightly different instructions
[01:59] <rumpsy> dpkg is replying me
[01:59] <hiexpo> no i like the little small apps
[01:59] <rumpsy> Sorry dpkg is not replying me
[02:00] <neezer> I have done many searches over the past month trying to find a beginners tutorial for conky, but can't seem to find one.
[02:00] <edbian> hiexpo: in the panel you mean?
[02:00] <hiexpo> yes
[02:00] <hiexpo> sorry
[02:00] <neezer> does anyone here have a link where I can start from the beginning on how it works?
[02:00] <hiexpo> so add new
[02:00] <hiexpo> got that
[02:01] <hiexpo> than custom
[02:01] <aaa7> Can anyone offer GNU Classpath installing support?
[02:01] <Hydrosis> neezer:  To learn conky you need to study other people's scripts and also the official conky guide.  That is how I learned.  Hold on, I will upload my conky config and share it with you.  It will look exactl like the one on the right side of this screenshot. http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1162/screenshot5z.png  -  hold on for two minutes.
[02:02] <edbian> neezer: man conky is helpful
[02:02] <neezer> cool.
[02:02] <turtle_> i'm using IMAP Evolution for my gmail account, and jpegs are not displaying properly, anyone got a suggestion?
[02:02] <hiexpo> ok it opened the new little window
[02:02] <neezer> for my conky on my lappy i just copied and pasted one in, and it is ok, but that doesn't teach you how to make it any better.
[02:03] <hiexpo> now what?
[02:03] <edbian> neezer: Look at it!
[02:03] <IdleOne> neezer: best way ( for me ) backup the working script then edit all you want and see what happens
[02:03] <edbian> hiexpo: you've got the custom launcher dialog up?  In the command line put in the terminal command for the app
[02:03] <hiexpo> ok 1 sec
[02:03] <aline> a masters degree from the University of Phoenix is kinda horseshit
[02:04] <neezer> thanks guys and gals if applicable.
[02:04] <zaphira13> What could be better to install in my Netbook?? UNR Or the classic Ubuntu for desktop?
[02:04] <aline> but everyone from work is getting one
[02:04] <hiexpo> ok
[02:05] <Hydrosis> neezer: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MFLLJMNA
[02:05] <microhaxo> Are there more advanced power management features for netbooks via gnome in 9.10?
[02:05] <Hydrosis> neezer: http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html  -- read this for all conky variables you need.
[02:05] <hiexpo> i tried that before and it didnt work on another program
[02:06] <hiexpo> ok the command is in
[02:06] <edbian> hiexpo: It was probably a typo then
[02:06] <edbian> then that's all you really need
[02:06] <hiexpo> oh
[02:06] <mobi-sheep> zaphira13: UNR is same as classic desktop with revamped UI.
[02:06] <hiexpo> is that it
[02:06] <neezer> thanks hydro
[02:06] <edbian> hiexpo: That should be it!
[02:07] <Hydrosis> No problem neezer, that's why I'm here.
[02:07] <neezer> i guess i'll just backup the original and start fiddling.
[02:07] <Hydrosis> :D
[02:07] <hiexpo> ok let me try it
[02:07] <neezer> so what is the command to restart conky to check my changes.
[02:07] <edbian> hiexpo: Fingers crossed!
[02:07] <Hydrosis> I use "killall conky"
[02:07] <neezer> mine just comes up when i start my computer. I don't want to reboot 1000 times.
[02:07] <mobi-sheep> neezer: Kill conky and edit it. Start conky again.
[02:07] <hiexpo> ya failed
[02:07] <Hydrosis> then, I save my gedit file TWICE in a row.
[02:07] <Hydrosis> safer than sorry
[02:08] <edbian> hiexpo: Does it need to run  in the terminal or is it graphical?
[02:08] <edbian> hiexpo: There isn't a typo right?
[02:08] <hiexpo> interminal
[02:08] <zaphira13> YEah seems like it as it has a choice that lets u use the cassic ubuntu Desktop but is it really the same?
[02:08] <edbian> hiexpo: Right click that panel applet and select the properties
[02:08] <hiexpo> but it launches outside the terminal so i don't think so
[02:09] <hiexpo> did that
[02:09] <edbian> hiexpo: change it to "run in terminal"
[02:09] <hiexpo> ok
[02:09] <edbian> hiexpo: What is the app?  What do you mean it runs outside the terminal??
[02:09] <hiexpo>  and also its a two line command
[02:10] <neezer> so it was a while ago when I installed this and I don't remember where my format file is....any guesses as to where it would be?
[02:10] <neezer> no conky in my home folder
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: You need to learn to make it a one line command
[02:10] <hiexpo> its jdownloader
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: I thin you can do that with && between the two commands
[02:10] <IdleOne> neezer: hit ctrl-h to show hidden files/folders
[02:10] <hiexpo> ok i will try
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: "command1 && command2"
[02:10] <hiexpo> ok
[02:10] <edbian> hiexpo: I THINK
[02:11] <neezer> ah... is it .conkyrc?
[02:11] <IdleOne> yup
[02:11] <neezer> cause i also found /etc/conky/conky.conf
[02:11] <neezer> is that one just a stock config file?
[02:11] <Hydrosis> neexer, it's hidden .conkyrc
[02:12] <edbian> neezer: The one in .conkyrc is the one that gets read from.
[02:12] <microhaxo> So IdleOne, does gnome offer any more power management than whats in the menu?  its not too in depth.
[02:12] <Hydrosis> conkycr in home is your main file.
[02:12] <Hydrosis> .conkyrc **
[02:12] <neezer> yep.
[02:12] <IdleOne> microhaxo: wouldn't know honestly. I'm sure there are apps you can install
[02:13] <Hydrosis> Replace that for anotehr conky, or you can run the second conky file as an executable script from tehconsole.
[02:13] <IdleOne> microhaxo: I don't worry bout such things :)
[02:13] <Hydrosis> Wow, sorry if you guy's cant understand my poor spelling and grammar.  Ive been hitting the beers all night while I chat.
[02:14] <neezer> i'm not quite pickin' up what you're putting down hydrosis
[02:14] <IdleOne> Hydrosis: will let you know when it's time to turn off irc hehe
[02:14] <edbian>  Hydrosis: Don't drink alone!
[02:15] <microhaxo> Lol
[02:15] <microhaxo> well i have this netbook, i want to make sure i make use of efficiency!
[02:16] <mobi-sheep> microhaxo: If you're using Gnome or KDE, that is not efficiency DE.
[02:16] <IdleOne> microhaxo: I think UNR is configured to use your netbook to it's fullest potential
[02:16] <edbian> microhaxo: a tiling manger is much more efficient.  awesome or open box or some such
[02:16] <edbian> microhaxo: unr is great for netbooks
[02:16] <zaphira13> How can i Downgrade a Version?
[02:16] <Hydrosis> It's true, you can actually drink your sorrows away (as long as you have a computer to play with).  Merry Chrisma-Hanu-Kwanza-Rama-Krishna everyone!
[02:16] <rabusmar> hello, im having a problem with unr on an msi u123 not recognizing my usb
[02:16] <rabusmar> any suggestion?
[02:16] <mobi-sheep> !pinning | zaphira13
[02:16] <IdleOne> !downgrade | zaphira13
[02:17] <hiexpo> ok i finally got it launch the terminal but still an error
[02:17] <Hydrosis> Instead of a downgrade, perhaps you could try an Ubuntu based OS like Chrunchbang#!.  It's great.
[02:18] <microhaxo> edbian, i heard they are identical aside from the special gui.
[02:18] <offset_0x0ff0> hi all
[02:18] <microhaxo> and i dont like the restrictions of UNR
[02:18] <Hydrosis> Is Crunchbang linux an offical arm of Ubuntu?  Somone said that it was...
[02:18] <IdleOne> Hydrosis: no it is not
[02:19] <Hydrosis> Didnt think it was.  Afterall, its doent have ubuntu in the name.
[02:19] <offset_0x0ff0> i've got some problems with memory, swap is never used
[02:19] <hiexpo> the was an error launching the child process
[02:19] <neezer> how do i check my disks? like sda1, sda2, etc...i want to know which is which.
[02:19] <Hydrosis> The most swap Ive EVER used is happening right now: 386MB
[02:20] <hiexpo> may i need it to launch the terminal first than the app
[02:20] <rabusmar> for my problem with usb, i already tried normal ubuntu, 9.10 too, and had the same problem with the usb not being recognized
[02:20] <iceroot> offset_0x0ff0: that is not a problem normally
[02:20] <IdleOne> neezer: type df in a terminal
[02:21] <neezer> thats it!
[02:21] <neezer> i love ther terminal
[02:21] <freeksh0w86> !boot
[02:21] <iceroot> neezer: and df -h for a readable output
[02:21] <IdleOne> neezer: terminal is beautiful
[02:22] <offset_0x0ff0> 30% of memory is used for programms ,50-70% used for cash , swap is never used, and i cant work
[02:22] <neezer> man is beautiful too!
[02:22] <IdleOne> neezer: you mean man pages?
[02:22] <neezer> haha yes.
[02:22] <neezer> sorry
[02:23] <mobi-sheep> neezer: If you like colors, pydf.
[02:23] <IdleOne> neezer: personnaly not crazy about man pages. written by geeks for geeks often times
[02:23] <freeksh0w86> what's the correct boot option for getting past "unable to find medium with live file system" when running live cd?
[02:23] <Hydrosis> I'm starting to love the terminal more and more.  Tells me about errors I didnt know existed and is an incredibly powerfultool.
[02:23] <neezer> IdleOne: True...but they do help sometimes....and I'm kind of a geek
[02:23] <freeksh0w86> i can't get to check disk for defects or anything w/o that happening... how is it not finding the disc drive???
[02:24] <offset_0x0ff0> some one can help me??
[02:24] <IdleOne> neezer: well what I meant is I think the man pages should be less technical sometimes
[02:24] <neezer> I agree.
[02:24] <Hydrosis> http://chvnx.com/post/299214645/woman-knocks-pope-down-at-christmas-mass
[02:24] <Hydrosis> oops, worng channel! sory
[02:29] <neezer> So I have this line in my .conkyrc file:   Home:  ${fs_free_perc /dev/sda1}%   ${fs_bar 6 /dev/sda1}$color
[02:29] <freeksh0w86> "unable to find a medium containing live file system"
[02:30] <freeksh0w86> anyone get that booting the CD?
[02:30] <neezer> it is saying 99% free when it reads, but on my /dev/sda1 in df -h it gives me that it is 29% used.
[02:30] <zaphira13> After a while my FIrefox stucks
[02:30] <freeksh0w86> i can't figure out how to get past it i try "all_generic_ide" option and still no luck
[02:30] <zaphira13> Why?
[02:31] <zaphira13> Especially when i am in you tube, the videos stuck
[02:31] <freeksh0w86> zaphira13, the closed-source "Flash" is still broken and not fixed
[02:31] <zaphira13> freeksh0w86: And what can we do about that?
[02:31] <freeksh0w86> maybe not Flash VM but the mozilla to flash glue code, owned by Adobe, is still not fully functional
[02:32] <freeksh0w86> zaphira13, send Adobe an email asking why they insist on making an essential web platform proprietary and still subject to security issues...
[02:32] <zaphira13> freeksh0w86: how can i install The new Firefox?
[02:32] <Hydrosis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:33] <Hydrosis> in terminal
[02:33] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[02:33] <freeksh0w86> i dunno if that will help but get flashblock or adblock plus so u can block bad flash apps
[02:33] <zaphira13> firefox is already the newest version.
[02:33] <zaphira13> E: Couldn't find package 3.5
[02:33] <Hydrosis> I use AdBlock Plus.  It's great.
[02:34] <hiexpo> ok i got it to pop open the terminal but it wont stay open
[02:34] <Hydrosis> zaphriah13, have you read the FF website
[02:34] <`mOOse`> freeksh0w86: yes, I have seen it before - I get it when I mistakenly update the kernel in my flashdrive install
[02:34] <zaphira13> Hydrosis: Umm yeah, what about it?
[02:35] <Ubuntu_User> im here for some help lol
[02:35] <Pelo> !sound
[02:35] <`mOOse`> 3.5.6 FF here
[02:35] <Ubuntu_User> winehq is deserted
[02:36] <Ubuntu_User> anyone here no about wine problems?
[02:36] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, what do you need ?
[02:36] <Pelo> a minor problem I don'T deal with anything major
[02:36] <Ubuntu_User> how to reset wine to a point were its like you never  used it
[02:36] <sinclair86_> del config file
[02:36] <Pelo> in what way ?
[02:36] <`mOOse`> or remove --purge
[02:36] <zaphira13> Its not working, i still have 3.0
[02:37] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, what is it you want to get rid of
[02:37] <co> cew_maniez
[02:37] <Ubuntu_User> im have this problem with problem where I'm trying to launch windows browsers and it shows them opening but then they don't launch at all
[02:37] <Ubuntu_User> and the process disappears
[02:37] <IdleOne> !FF3.5 | zaphira13
[02:37] <jMyles> I'm having a problem with a thinkpad t40 and wireless networking.  I can see my network, but it is grayed out.  I suspect that this is because it is a WPA network, and for whatever reason, WPA isn't working.  I suspect this because when I try to "create new wireless network," wpa is not available as a security option.
[02:37] <trism> Ubuntu_User: remove the ~/.wine directory and the next time you launch a program with wine a default one will be generated (for the reset to defaults part of your question)
[02:38] <jarray521> Has anyone here used aide on Ubuntu?
[02:38] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, if you want to get rid of wine completely , and all the apps you've installed in it ,  just sudo apt-get remove --purge wine ,  and sudo rm ~/.wine
[02:38] <Pelo> Ubuntu_User, if you want to get rid of wine completely , and all the apps you've installed in it ,  just sudo apt-get remove --purge wine ,  and sudo rm -rf ~/.wine
[02:38] <Ubuntu_User> Ok...
[02:38] <mobile> jMyles: What make/model is your wireless card, mate?
[02:38] <Ubuntu_User> i'll try
[02:39] <jMyles> mobile: It's a Cisco Aironet
[02:39] <neezer> so my df -h shows this: nathan@lappy:~$ df -h
[02:39] <neezer> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:39] <neezer> /dev/sda5              48G   18G   28G  40% /
[02:39] <neezer> tmpfs                 2.0G     0  2.0G   0% /lib/init/rw
[02:39] <neezer> varrun                2.0G  312K  2.0G   1% /var/run
[02:39] <FloodBot2> neezer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <neezer> varlock               2.0G     0  2.0G   0% /var/lock
[02:40] <scott__> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.  Earlier today, I started up my machine with a new monitor, and before Ubuntu started up all the way it said it was having problems.  It gave me a nice menu where I chose the type of monitor I was using from a drop down, along with giving me options to choose video driver and resolution.  How do I get to this menu again?
[02:40] <Ubuntu_User> I did and no change...whats going on?
[02:40] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Which means that i have the 3.5 version but it is still named 3.0?
[02:40] <mobile> jMyles: The cisco website's FAQ gave this: A. No, the Linux drivers for the Cisco Aironet 350 Series Wireless Card do not support WPA.
[02:40] <IdleOne> zaphira13: no, in Applications > Internet it will be called Shiretoko
[02:41] <IdleOne> Shiretoko is FF3.5
[02:41] <Real_Christmas> Will it be any easy way to install Windows 7 from a DVD using some kind of remote installation? PXE??
[02:41] <freeksh0w86> i also don't see the CD device in /dev when i get to the busybox prompt after "unable to find...live file system" error when booting (other sda show up though)
[02:41] <IdleOne> Real_Christmas: ask in ##windows
[02:41] <jMyles> mobile: so do you think that's the final answer?
[02:41] <arch----> what ubuntu media player can play .odd ?
[02:41] <arch----> .ogg ?
[02:42] <Real_Christmas> IdleOne: Nah, I use Linux to connect remotely. Will it work different depending on operating system I want to intsall?
[02:43] <Real_Christmas> *insatll
[02:43] <mobile> jMyles: As is always the way with Linux, support very well may be added at a later date. With a bit of luck, it might do - but if cisco says it can't do it it probably can't. There may be alternative drivers, but.. I doubt it. I reckon it's a safe assumption that there's no WPA support, and that's final. For the time being, anyway. Sorry, man.
[02:43] <Real_Christmas> *install
[02:43] <IdleOne> Real_Christmas: I don't know. never tried PX install
[02:43] <IdleOne> PXE
[02:43] <Hydrosis> Whoever was chatting with neezer should PM him.  He was kicked for flooding by accident.
[02:43] <marcel> Hi. Can anyone please help me install a working driver for my nvidia graphical card?
[02:44] <zaphira13> IdleOne: it still says Firefox Web Browser
[02:44] <IdleOne> Hydrosis: it's a temp ban
[02:44] <neezer> it was my fault.
[02:44] <rumpsy> What card you are having
[02:44] <neezer> I'm better now.
[02:44] <Hydrosis> ah, ok.  Anyway, no luck on my end neexer.
[02:44] <marcel> geforce 105m
[02:44] <neezer> thanks anyways.
[02:44] <Real_Christmas> What would you suggest me to learn of this: 1. Linux 2. tcp/ip 3. Python 4. PHP 5. C if I want to develop things like software and web services?
[02:44] <neezer> I'll keep plugging away.
[02:44] <IdleOne> zaphira13: do apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 and tell me if it says installed
[02:44] <ll_r>  i want nm-applet to start before firefox at session boot. how can i do it?
[02:44] <Hydrosis> If you try, you shall succeed.  Somone important probably said that once.  Im sure it applies here.
[02:45] <neezer> goose?
[02:45] <goose> neezer?
[02:45] <neezer> haha thanks
[02:45] <neezer> yeah...my brother goes by goose.
[02:45] <geeXmas> marcel
[02:45] <neezer> but surely you can't be him...he doesn't use ubuntu
[02:45] <neezer> I haven't been able to persuade him.
[02:45] <zaphira13> IdleOne: No
[02:46] <IdleOne> zaphira13: ok. do sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[02:46] <freeksh0w86> if other distros can see my CD drive at boot, why can't Ubuntu 9.10? what am i doing wrong?
[02:47] <IdleOne> freeksh0w86: bad download maybe, check the md5sum and burn the iso at slowest speed
[02:47] <freeksh0w86> IdleOne, i already did all that
[02:47] <IdleOne> freeksh0w86: :-/
[02:47] <freeksh0w86> i tried nolapic option as well, same problem
[02:47] <nflava> hi, can anyone help me, how can i share my harddrives on my local network
[02:47]  * Pelo wishes a merry random day to all the non-christians in the room 
[02:48] <nflava> im pretty new to ubuntu
[02:48] <goose> well, neezer, since my (only) brother is on the couch across from me asleep, I'm fairly sure I'm not the goose you're looking for :p
[02:48] <IdleOne> Thank you Pelo
[02:48] <IdleOne> Same to you
[02:48] <Pelo> nflava, pick I don'T know about the whole drive but a folder is easy
[02:48] <neezer> haha true goose.
[02:48] <yoshio_221> hey guys i need another way of installing ubuntu because nothing so far worked?
[02:48] <neezer> my bro in on an oil rig right now, so it could have been him.
[02:48] <nflava> ill try whatever method you have Pelo
[02:48] <nflava> i dont know any way atm
[02:49] <Pelo> nflava, are you running a gui ? gnome or somethign ? gnome preferably
[02:49] <nflava> i have gnome
[02:49] <nflava> i guess just the newest ubuntu
[02:50] <Pelo> nflava, pick a folder , any folder , preferably the highest one you are willing to share like don'T pick /home/username but anything below that will do ,  right click,  go to the share tab and follow the instructions
[02:50] <zaphira13> IdleOne: I did but it still says Firefox Web Browser and the version is 3.0
[02:50] <nflava> hmm i should have know it was that easy lol
[02:50] <nflava> lemme check it out, thank you
[02:50] <Pelo> nflava, welcome to "this is not windows"
[02:50] <neezer> pelo, can you share from command line? or does it need to be in nautilus?
[02:51] <IdleOne> zaphira13: I don't know what to tell you. it should say Shiretoko. You will see both Firefox and Shiretoko
[02:51] <Pelo> neezer, you probably can,  but I don't know how,  in fact I'm gonna bet you just need to add a folder to a config file somewhere
[02:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> nflava, you drives are mounted in /media/ so share that folder, it will be needed to run "sudo nautilus" and do the normal procedure from there
[02:52] <ll_r> i want nm-applet (network) to start before firefox at gnome saved-session boot. how can i do it?
[02:52] <ll_r> damn desktop
[02:52] <Supersaiyan_IV> nflava, the drives are essentially folders in /media/
[02:52] <Pelo> Supersaiyan_IV, only removable media
[02:53] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Oh
[02:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> Pelo, or securely mounted media like 9.10 does it
[02:53] <Pelo> nflava, there are no C or D drives in linux,  the system is a bit different,  it's more about partitions on drives and they can be mounted where ever you want in the folder hierachy
[02:53] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Thou are right...i didn't see it, and what is the difference now?
[02:53] <scott__>  I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.  Earlier today, I started up my machine with a new monitor, and before Ubuntu started up all the way it said it was having problems.  It gave me a nice menu where I chose the type of monitor I was using from a drop down, along with giving me options to choose video driver and resolution.  How do I get to this menu again?
[02:54] <IdleOne> zaphira13: Shiretoko is firefox 3.5
[02:54] <aqwq> fire fox wont start
[02:54] <aqwq> firefox
[02:54] <IdleOne> zaphira13: so it is newer then 3.0
[02:54] <aqwq> and about ubuntu
[02:54] <aqwq> and hmmmmmm ubuntu software center
[02:54] <Pelo> aqwq, make complete sentences please
[02:55] <aqwq> about ubuntu , ubuntu software center , firefox wont start :S
[02:55] <zaphira13> IdleOne: This means that it is better?
[02:55] <IdleOne> zaphira13: means that it is newer and *should* be better
[02:56] <IdleOne> zaphira13: try it out and see if it works better for you
[02:56] <jacob110> Isn't Shiretoko still a beta?
[02:56] <IdleOne> jacob110: no
[02:56] <aqwq> hello
[02:56] <Pelo> aqwq, ubuntu software center doesnT have anything to do with firefox , as far as i know , unless it's to start the oficial webpage of an app in there
[02:56] <`mOOse`> I'm runnin 3.5.6
[02:56] <jacob110> IdleOne: sorry been away from internet browsers a little while
[02:56] <Pelo> brb
[02:56] <IdleOne> jacob110: no problem :)
[02:56] <aqwq> i cant start fire fox
[02:57] <IdleOne> aqwq: try starting it from terminal and see if you get any error messages
[02:57] <neezer> aqwq try just doing firefox from a terminal
[02:57] <aqwq> i cant start firefox its says loading and just that
[02:57] <aqwq> yea
[02:57] <neezer> hmm
[02:57] <aqwq> its give me erros
[02:57] <zaphira13> IdleOne: Ok Thanks a million! :)
[02:57] <aqwq> BUS error
[02:57] <IdleOne> zaphira13: welcome
[02:57] <aqwq> Bus error
[02:58] <IdleOne> maybe move it to a different corner and see if the right Bus comes along
[02:58] <msmarc> anyone know if its possible to make a power pc mac hibernate?
[02:58] <aqwq> how i move it plz tell me caz im new
[02:58] <IdleOne> aqwq: hehe sorry i was trying to be funny.
[02:59] <aqwq> five days now i came here and no answer:S
[02:59] <IdleOne> aqwq: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:59] <IdleOne> that should fix it
[02:59] <arghh2d2> does anybody get their linux to hibernate and unhibernate correctly?  i think it sucks
[03:00] <arghh2d2> never works
[03:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> aqwq, if firefox doesn't work you can always try epiphany, sudo apt-get install epiphany
[03:00] <msmarc> i thought just power pc's couldnt hibernate
[03:00] <aqwq> the same error
[03:00] <IdleOne> arghh2d2: works fine here
[03:00] <Maximillion> How do I install a specific python package, (for example python-dns) on ubuntu?
[03:00] <Pelo> arghh2d2, there were issues in the past but I think they were suppose to have been resolved,  there are probably a bunch of threads about this in the ubuntuforum.org
[03:00] <aqwq> Bus error
[03:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> arghh2d2, depends on the graphics driver, currently running latest nvidia beta and it works flawlessly
[03:00] <DaZ> !find python dns
[03:01] <DaZ> ...
[03:01] <iceroot> Maximillion: if it is not on the repo (apt-cache search) try python egg
[03:01] <IdleOne> Maximillion: install  python-dnspython or python-dns
[03:01] <msmarc> theres lots of python packages in the repo just search with aptitude
[03:02] <aqwq> yestrday they said install erora :S
[03:02] <aqwq> and now epiphany
[03:02] <aqwq> i want to fix firefox:(
[03:03] <Supersaiyan_IV> aqwq, epiphany is a firefox 2 clone
[03:03] <aqwq> ok
[03:03] <Devrethman> Is there a way to tell what -lxxx options are available?
[03:03] <Devrethman> for gcc?
[03:04] <aqwq> 84% [1 epiphany-data 2133573/2,430kB 87%]
[03:05] <msmarc> will wake-on-lan work when you computers off?
[03:06] <IdleOne> umm no
[03:06] <IdleOne> no power to the computer means no connection
[03:06] <freetos> does anybody know how to make 9.10 do 3d desktops?
[03:06] <archnub> hi all can anyone help me out with getting a hauppauge 1250 card working?
[03:07] <IdleOne> freetos: System > Prefferences > Appearance, go to the Visual effects tab and enable it
[03:07] <archnub> 0070:7911 is the id
[03:07] <freetos> IdleOne, thank u very much
[03:07] <nflava> had to restart my session
[03:07] <archnub> tveeprom 0-0050: Encountered bad packet header [ff]. Corrupt or not a Hauppauge eeprom.
[03:07] <jjmartin> in power management I have sleep disabled when on AC but ubu 9.10 still goes to sleep. why? and how do i fix this
[03:07] <archnub> is the error
[03:08] <nflava> now time to go to the windows pc with xbmc, hopefully it can see my fodlers
[03:09] <aqwq> dose any body know how i can find in terminal ubuntu version ?
[03:09] <IdleOne> aqwq: lsb_release -a
[03:09] <Supersaiyan_IV> aqwq, uname -r
[03:09] <aqwq> Ubuntu 9.10
[03:09] <bennukem> hello everybody
[03:09] <aqwq> i dont like this:S
[03:09] <aqwq> Ubuntu 9.10
[03:09] <geeXmas> ih
[03:09] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: that gives kernel version
[03:09] <aqwq> i like more 8.4 hardy heron
[03:10] <Supersaiyan_IV> IdleOne, indeed
[03:10] <bennukem> I would like make a backup of all keys gpg (I have ubuntu 9.10)
[03:10] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: but still good to know :)
[03:10] <bennukem> but in the manager , I can't save all keys in one time
[03:10] <Wolfcastle> hello
[03:10] <Supersaiyan_IV> IdleOne, uname -a still doesn't give the ubuntu version, i wonder what cmd will give the distro version
[03:11] <IdleOne> !hi | Wolfcastle
[03:11] <aqwq> wht do u prefer ubuntu 8.4 hardy or 9.10
[03:11] <iceroot> Supersaiyan_IV: lsb_release -a
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> I'm having some problems with a couple of panel programs
[03:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> iceroot, thx
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> the battery monitor for example sometimes shows there's no battery present on startup
[03:11] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: uname returns kernal info only AFIK lsb_release gives distro name and version number
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> but info in /proc says it's present
[03:11] <iceroot> aqwq: 8.04 is a LTS version and very stable
[03:12] <aqwq> yes
[03:12] <kjcole> Hi.  Something wrong w/ my touchpad (Asus) under Karmic, GNOME only.  Works fine under KDE.  Under GNOME left click acts as "Move window".  Was fine under previous releases...  Anyone know what's wrong?
[03:12] <aqwq> i love that :(
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> and it is fixed by removing/adding the monitor
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> i use kubuntu karmic
[03:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> IdleOne, always good to know :)
[03:12] <IdleOne> Supersaiyan_IV: indeed
[03:12] <Dante123> Howdy all,  staying at hotel that has wired internet in rooms.....i have a dell mini 9 with 9.10 and a dell mini 10v with 9.04.....I want to share wired internet to the 9.04 using wireless card?  Can this be done and easily?
[03:12] <aqwq> i lost the cd of 8.4 and installed 9.10 and evry time x is down :S hmm after upgrading kernal firefox wont work and so meny things very bad
[03:13] <sinclair86> dante123: kinda
[03:13] <`mOOse`> Supersaiyan_IV:  lsb_release -a like IdleOne said
[03:13] <phix> a room with a m00se!
[03:13] <`mOOse`> !!!
[03:13] <Dante123> kjcole netbook?
[03:13] <kjcole> Dantel123: Nope.
[03:13] <neezer> when i try lsb-release -a i get that lsb-release command not found
[03:14] <Dante123> sinclair86 create adhoc network?
[03:14] <Supersaiyan_IV> iceroot, thx by the way :)
[03:14] <IdleOne> neezer: _ not -
[03:14] <Boing_> hello, what is the difference between ini 3 and ini 4
[03:14] <neezer> ah.
[03:14] <`mOOse`> neezer: it's lsb_
[03:14] <iceroot> Supersaiyan_IV: np
[03:14] <`mOOse`> not lsb-
[03:14] <aqwq> _
[03:14] <Dante123> kjcole laptop....
[03:15] <neezer> cool.
[03:15] <iceroot> Boing_: in ubuntu there is no difference
[03:15] <neezer> what does lsb stand for?
[03:15] <ozzloy> menica67, hii
[03:15] <kjcole> Dantel123: Yep. Specifically Asus F3JM
[03:15] <`mOOse`> you want to use your wired machine as a wifi access point essentially Dante123
[03:15] <iceroot> Boing_: ubuntu dont using different runlevels like suse or other distros
[03:15] <iceroot> neezer: linux standard base i think
[03:15] <menica67> ozzloy, hiiiii
[03:15] <neezer> cool.
[03:15] <Boing_> ok ty
[03:15] <fas3r> sorry somebody use ulogd2?
[03:15] <jjmartin> lsb_release is only for debia distros
[03:15] <iceroot> neezer: yes, man lsb_release is telling  linux standard base
[03:15] <Dante123> `mOOse` yes i guess....i want internet on both
[03:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> neezer, "lsb_release command provides certain LSB (Linux Standard Base) and distribution-specific information."
[03:16] <iceroot> !anyone | fas3r
[03:16] <kjcole> Dantel123: Part of the "Asus Revolutionary Notebook Series" according to the etchings on the front edge.
[03:16] <sinclair86> dante123 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html
[03:16] <fas3r> i don't have mac adress in ulog2 table and i just want know if it's general problem because don't help me on this point :s
[03:16] <fas3r> because i don't find answer on goole about that*
[03:16] <Dante123> kjcole have you looked at mouse settings under gnome to make sure they are right?
[03:17] <fas3r> ubottu: i know but nobody use ulogd2 so it's why i asking first ^^
[03:17] <IdleOne> kjcole: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:18] <fas3r> iceroot : i know but nobody use ulogd2 so it's why i asking first ^^
[03:18] <`mOOse`> Dante123:  I know osx can do it - gimme a sec to see if I can find something for you
[03:18] <kjcole> Dantel123: As near as I can tell, they were fine. I'm in KDE right now, so it's a bit hard to check immediately -- and because GNOME has become so unusable without being able to click on anything.
[03:18] <Dante123> sinclair86 i followed that guid and i could connect with adhoc but no internet sharing
[03:18] <iceroot> fas3r: if nobody is using it, its useless to ask if someone is using it
[03:18] <fas3r> iceroot: well no it's just in beta mod .. the first release come soon so .. we never know ^^
[03:18] <menica67> anyone know how to make a sony vaio motion eye camera work in ubuntu?
[03:19] <kjcole> Dantel123: (I did manage to get to the System Settings and saw nothing odd about the mouse settings there.)
[03:19] <fas3r> ulogd2 will be replace ulogd
[03:19] <Dante123> kjcole it is toughpad that is screwed right?  have u tried a usb or other mouse
[03:19] <`mOOse`> Dante123: hostapd is the pgm you will probably want
[03:20] <kjcole> IdleOne: Checking now. I did some digging on help.ubuntu.com a few days ago, but I wasn't zeroing in on the difference between GNOME and KDE. Most advice wanted me to screw w/ xorg.conf, which isn't the source of trouble.
[03:21] <Dante123> `mOOse` can i add that from ubuntu software centre and does only wired host need it?
[03:21] <`mOOse`> reading - hang on
[03:21] <IdleOne> kjcole: that helped me get my touchpad working when I had one
[03:21] <ZanQdo> hi, ive been trying to install netbook remix 9.10 and my netbook will not boot on the USB no matter what
[03:21] <IdleOne> ZanQdo: changed bios to boot from USB first?
[03:22] <ZanQdo> yes
[03:22] <kjcole> Dantel123: Nope. I don't have one handy.
[03:22] <Renfley> anyone familer with conky?
[03:22] <ZanQdo> I have tried with many aps for creating a bootable usb drive
[03:22] <Dante123> ZanQdo what brand of usb flash drive u using
[03:22] <mobile> Renfley: Briefly. What's up?
[03:22] <ZanQdo> last was unetbootin
[03:22] <geeXmas> !conky
[03:22] <kjcole> IdleOne: Thanks.  It looks like that offers a few ideas worth pursuing.
[03:22] <Dante123> i have had issues with sandisc cruzer and booting from usb
[03:22] <ZanQdo> its a kingston
[03:23] <ZanQdo> I have used it to install the past version of remix
[03:23] <Renfley> yea conky lol
[03:23] <zetheroo> MERRY CHRISTMAS Ubuntu Community!!!
[03:23] <zetheroo> :)
[03:23] <`mOOse`> what's the error ZanQdo
[03:23] <edbian> ZanQdo: Do you have windows on this netbook?  Try using unetbootin to boot directly from the ISO and the windows filesystem (yeah you can do that, yeah it is weird as hell)
[03:23] <ZanQdo> edbian: I have windows but its completly unusable
[03:23] <Dante123> ive had error with just one pc and then same usb flash drive works on another pc fine
[03:23] <ZanQdo> and ubuntu is fucked up too, it wont let me install new packages
[03:23] <ZanQdo> :s
[03:24] <`mOOse`> ZanQdo: file:///home/ubuntu/.mozilla/firefox/febeprof.UbuntumOOse/ScrapBook/data/20091203055702/index.html
[03:24] <`mOOse`> use their installers - they ROCK
[03:24] <edbian> ZanQdo: ouch, then good luck with your USB drive!
[03:24] <`mOOse`> whoa
[03:24] <ZanQdo> Im trying creating the bootable drive from open suse and from another windows machine
[03:24] <`mOOse`> sorry - wrong url
[03:24] <fas3r> please santa help me ... :)
[03:24] <ctmjr> !oymy | ZanQdo
[03:24] <ctmjr> !ohmy | ZanQdo
[03:24] <`mOOse`> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[03:25] <`mOOse`> ZanQdo:  ^^
[03:25] <Dante123> `mOOse` any more clues
[03:25] <ZanQdo> m0los: I tried that too..
[03:25] <blackest_knight> ZanQdo:  unetbootin :)
[03:25] <ZanQdo> blackest_knight: that too..
[03:25] <edbian> blackest_knight: He's already using it
[03:26] <ZanQdo> I dont know whats wrong, I installed 9.04 succesfully
[03:26] <`mOOse`> well Dante123, I got http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/hostapd
[03:26] <IdleOne> kjcole: welcome
[03:26] <ZanQdo> now 9.10 wont work
[03:26] <Dante123> ZanQdo do you have a second usb to try...maybe it is a prob specific to that usb or even pc bios
[03:26] <`mOOse`> if you google hostapd ubuntu you'll come up with 13040952 hits ;-)
[03:26] <ZanQdo> I dont, but I have installed using this usb drive
[03:26] <ZanQdo> both the previous remix and also suse 11.2
[03:26] <ZanQdo> the usb drive works fine
[03:26] <blackest_knight> whats the issue its straight forward as long as you know where you write it and how to boot it
[03:27] <edbian> ZanQdo: When you try to boot from the usb drive what happens??
[03:27] <`mOOse`> yea, win32 format, letter rip
[03:27] <ZanQdo> edbian: it goes directly to my grub
[03:27] <ZanQdo> and loads ubuntu 9.04
[03:27] <ZanQdo> I will try booting in another pc
[03:27] <`mOOse`> you got your bios set to load usb first?
[03:28] <edbian> ZanQdo: So I assume you tell the bios to boot the drive, it tries, fails, and skips to the next device??
[03:28] <`mOOse`> (stupid q but...)
[03:28] <Dante123> `mOOse` i found one walkthrough that makes it sound very simple...but i have not tried that yet.....right now im using internet in hotel lobby
[03:28] <ZanQdo> edbian: apparently, yes
[03:28] <blackest_knight> ZanQdo: ok so how do you select the boot drive ?
[03:28] <ZanQdo> blackest_knight: I try both in the bios, putting the usb drive as first boot option
[03:28] <ZanQdo> and also with F12
[03:28] <`mOOse`> it's not all that hard Dante123 - I haven't done it but I've seen several ways it's done in windows....sorry can't be of more help - but I *do* know it's possible ;-)
[03:29] <edbian> ZanQdo: I think you should try and get the bios to fail on the usb drive and give up so you can get some errors.
[03:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> Daniel_G, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html/comment-page-1#comment-1966 an alternative
[03:29] <ZanQdo> the bios has a way to select which drive to boot from
[03:29] <piklu> hello
[03:29] <digitalaxis> Hey guys, is there like a limewire application for ubuntu? for downloading music and such
[03:29] <kraitos> login splash question ?
[03:29] <geeXmas> mc
[03:29] <`mOOse`> digitalaxis: nicotine plus
[03:29] <edbian> ZanQdo: Also, are you sure grub is installed on the drive?
[03:29] <`mOOse`> there is also a bearshare p2p app
[03:30] <edbian> digitalaxis: Most of use bit torrent I suspect because it is less often considered illegal
[03:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> Dante123, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing 9.10 method
[03:31] <kraitos> i'm trying to set up a new splash screen can anyone help?
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: yes sure
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: oh, what drive
[03:31] <Dante123> `mOOse` one method i already followed had you create adhoc then create address, netmask, gateway..but that did nit work  for sharing but i could connect....im gonna try the other way....simpler but requires dnsmasq-base see http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/
[03:31] <edbian> ZanQdo: The usb drive! :)
[03:31] <`mOOse`> ICS is for wired though
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: ok I tried on another machine and same problem
[03:31] <ZanQdo> edbian: then it has to be something in this image/drive
[03:31] <ZanQdo> :s
[03:32] <edbian> ZanQdo: Then somethings wrong with the usb drive!
[03:32] <edbian> ZanQdo: yeah
[03:32] <Dante123> Supersaiyan_IV reading that thanks
[03:32] <edbian> ZanQdo: Why don't you look up how to install grub on a usb drive?  That's my advice!  Unfortunately it just about ends there though :/
[03:33] <edbian> ZanQdo: I'll be here if you have less specific questions though!
[03:33] <edbian> kraitos: I can help you :)
[03:33] <edbian> kraitos: Do you have the login theme .tar.gz somewhere on your system?
[03:33] <`mOOse`> I don't know about other distros but the pendrive apps for ubuntu work really well
[03:34] <kraitos> edbian; in were do you mean
[03:34] <edbian> kraitos: Did you download a theme?
[03:34] <Supersaiyan_IV> Dante123, actually the 9.10 method is only for sharing with two ethernet ports, so it's not accurate information
[03:34] <blackest_knight> ZanQdo:  can you read the drive is the partition set bootable (what does gparted tell you) (manage flags ->boot)
[03:35] <kraitos> edbian; yes, i did. i download it with art manager
[03:35] <edbian> kraitos: Where is it?
[03:35] <edbian> kraitos: I'm unfamiliar with that app?
[03:35] <Dante123> Supersaiyan_IV do you think the guy in this article is oversimplyfying it..... http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/  because article u posted means doing a lot more....especially since i am sharing via wireless
[03:35] <freetos> does anyone know on how to install the latest wineasio file to run besides the source.tar.bz1 and compiling by it bye hand
[03:36] <aqwq> hey
[03:36] <edbian> freetos: There is no other way.
[03:36] <aqwq> i want open my email:(
[03:36] <kraitos> edbian; it looks for diferent eye candys to download and install. but it won't let me install of it. because the file is a .tar.gz
[03:36] <aqwq> i cantttttttttttttt
[03:36] <kraitos> edbian; in other words i have to manually install it and i don't know how too. could you please help with this?
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  what kind of theme/part is it? theres the gnome-art and gnome-artng programs that can sutomate installing new themes.
[03:37] <Dante123> going to try it although it looks "too easy" Supersaiyan_IV and `mOOse` thanks for help
[03:37] <edbian> kraitos: Yeah, that is easy
[03:37] <ZanQdo> edbian: thanks, Ill try and track this problem a bit more, I can try installing an open suse on the same drive, if it works then its a problem with ubuntu
[03:37] <kraitos> edbian; so what is the first step
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> kraitos: the term 'theme' is a little overused at times and can mean different 'things' depending on the theme part you are refering to.
[03:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Dante123, he assumes you don't have a wifi dhcp server, which is the case, it could work
[03:37] <edbian> ZanQdo: When you install to the pen drive watch carefully for errors!
[03:37] <`mOOse`> Dante123:  - it really isn't hard from what I've read - I know in windoze there's a few pgms that set it up effortlessly
[03:38] <kraitos> edbian; right
[03:38] <`mOOse`> yer welcome - good luck!
[03:38] <blackest_knight> Dante123:  sharing is  easy as long as you remember to turn on ip forward in sysctrl
[03:38] <edbian> kraitos: Sorry, yeah, open the system -
[03:38] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: Hi, I just got here. What are you trying to accomplish? o.o
[03:38] <edbian> kraitos: Sorry, open the system -> admin -> login window
[03:38] <Supersaiyan_IV> mobi-sheep, he wants to share his ethernet internet through wifi
[03:38] <edbian> kraitos: Then open the folder that has the .tar.gz file in it
[03:38] <kraitos> edbian; i'm there
[03:39] <kraitos> edbian; do i have to unlock it first or something else?
[03:39] <edbian> kraitos: go to the local tab
[03:39] <blackest_knight> Dante123:  i'm using ppp0 for net connected wirelessly to a router and using the ppp0 for the net for the lan , ssh in to other lan pc's
[03:39] <edbian> kraitos: i don't know, I don't think you have to unlock it
[03:40] <mobi-sheep> Supersaiyan_IV, Dante123: Install bridge-utils and set up a new "Bridging" profile in NetworkManager --> Method: Shared.
[03:40] <Dante123> mobi-sheep  and blackest_knight, i want to share wired hotel internet from one dell mini 9 running with dell mini 10v wireless ....one method i already followed had you create adhoc then create address, netmask, gateway..but that did nit work  for sharing but i could connect....im gonna try the other way....simpler but requires dnsmasq-base see http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/
[03:40] <edbian> kraitos: now that you have both open you can either hit that little add button or you can drag the .tar.gz into the window with the other themes
[03:40] <buttons840> what can i try to end a process if kill doesn't work?   i pull up top, and pid 3769 is using 100 cpu, so i sudo kill 3769 and it doesn't do anything. what else can i try?
[03:40] <`mOOse`> yea, the problem is having two simultaneous connects on one wifi adapter
[03:40] <Dante123> i have no router at my disposal
[03:41] <kraitos> edbian; hey i went to system > admin > login screen and all the option are greyed out and the only available is unlock.
[03:41] <`mOOse`> buttons840: kill -9
[03:41] <edbian> buttons840: sudo kill -9
[03:41] <edbian> kraitos:
[03:41] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: You sure have lot of Dell Mini. Any particular reason why? :)
[03:41] <blackest_knight> the router just makes it easier :)
[03:41] <edbian> kraitos: Oh yeah, sorry unlock it first
[03:41] <edbian> kraitos: :D
[03:41] <kraitos> edbian; alright now what
[03:42] <edbian> kraitos: Either use the add
[03:42] <edbian> kraitos: The add button*
[03:42] <syrius> I have a question
[03:42] <edbian> syrius: Well what is it already!?!?!
[03:42] <kraitos> edbian; there is no add button
[03:42] <buttons840> edbian, what is this kill -9?
[03:42] <buttons840> (it
[03:42] <edbian> kraitos: What buttons are there?  Sorry I'm using an older version of ubuntu
[03:42] <buttons840> (i still can't kill it, but i don't think i used your suggestion correctly)
[03:42] <syrius> why does it seem like I don't really have a 100 m/s connection when it says so in connection info in ubuntu?
[03:43] <Dante123> dell9 running 9.10 has wired internet......i will create adhoc with wireless adapter...then use mini10v 9.04 to connect via wifi with the dell 9 and hopefully share internet as desribed here.....im in hotel for next two days...one mini is my wife's the other from school....i borrowed it...im a teacger by trade
[03:43] <edbian> buttons840: just like you used kill before but add a -9 "sudo kill -9 <pid>"
[03:43] <syrius> can the bandwith I get to my machine also be  effected by the hardware I am using?
[03:43] <blackest_knight> Dante123:  ican send you a script
[03:43] <edbian> buttons840: It's more powerful, doesn't take no for an answer :)
[03:43] <edbian> syrius: Only the network card
[03:43] <buttons840> what is the -9, is there a -8?
[03:43] <syrius> so not the cpu or anything
[03:44] <`mOOse`> 9 is the highest elevated level the command will run at
[03:44] <Dante123> instructions im trying...(but seems too easy to work).... http://zendevi.com/computing/linux/ubuntu-tip-sharing-a-wired-connection/
[03:44] <syrius> well also the router and modem I would think also edbian
[03:44] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: The hotel does not have Wifi?
[03:44] <kraitos> edbian; the main title on this says "when the computer starts-up"
[03:44] <syrius> why is it that an uncapped router can make your connection faster?
[03:44] <`mOOse`> buttons840: man kill for details
[03:44] <Dante123> blackest_knight sure
[03:44] <syrius> uncapped modem
[03:44] <edbian> syrius: Yeah, the router and modem def.  But on the computer I'm pretty sure the network card is the only thing that matters
[03:45] <edbian> kraitos: Are you on the local tab?
[03:45] <`mOOse`> Dante123:  - what's there to lose - come back in here and tell us when/if you get it running
[03:45] <kraitos> edbian; there is no local tab, i'm not sure what you are talking about.
[03:45] <`mOOse`> looks simple enough
[03:45] <edbian> syrius: Because proprietary vendors cap their routers / modems so they run cooler and under less stress (so they last longer)
[03:45] <jeez1234> hi, i'm planning to reinstall my OS [ubuntu]. how do i back up my history and stuff so that i can restore it in the fresh install?
[03:45] <mobi-sheep> !backup | jeez1234
[03:45] <edbian> kraitos: I'm sorry, I'm using an older version of ubuntu so mine looks different
[03:46] <jeez1234> mobi-sheep: thanks, will check it out!
[03:46] <kraitos> edbian; right, what version are you using, i'm using 9.10
[03:46] <edbian> kraitos: Some how there is a way to add new themes.  Do you have a tab that shows the themes you can switch to in there?
[03:46] <edbian> kraitos: I'm using 8.04 cause it's LTS
[03:46]  * buttons840 reads "kill -9 -1" and is tempted to try it
[03:46] <`mOOse`> they cap the routers to keep net congestion down on local nodes
[03:46] <syrius> why is it against the law to uncapped your router? edbian
[03:46] <kraitos> edbian; i don't know i was hoping you did.
[03:46] <edbian> buttons840: Try it only if the process refuses to die under other circumstances
[03:46] <edbian> syrius: I don't think it is... Not here in America anyway
[03:47] <Dante123> mobi-sheep wifi in lobby, wired in rooms....new owner will likely upgrade but not yet
[03:47] <kraitos> edbian; well thanks anyways ill just ask someone else
[03:47] <zetheroo> anyone know how to split a DVD iso onto CD's?
[03:47] <edbian> kraitos: I'm sorry :( good luck!
[03:47] <mobi-sheep> syrius: http://tinyurl.com/y94m2v5 (I'm going to read that too. :))
[03:47] <kraitos>  edbian; don't worry about it.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. never seen a way to uncap a 'router' just the 'cable modem'
[03:47] <kraitos> can anyone help me change the splash screen?
[03:48] <edbian> Dr_Willis: I assume he meant install different software on it
[03:48] <mobi-sheep> Dante123: I'm going to try this adhoc thing.
[03:48] <Dante123> `mOOse` will do
[03:48] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Will you help kraitos
[03:48] <kraitos> edbian; thanks
[03:48] <`mOOse`> :-)
[03:48] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: can you help me with changing the login splash?
[03:49] <kraitos> Merry christmas everyone
[03:49] <mordof> what xorg version does karmic use?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  the usplasy (ubuntu logo) or the xsplash the animation right befor gdm starts and after it.. right befor the user desktop shows up.
[03:50] <Dante123> mobi-sheep okay i will be back in a few
[03:50] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: okay can you slowly explain this to be i just started using ubuntu 3 months ago, still a newby.
[03:50] <edbian> Dr_Willis: The gdm login theme
[03:50] <Dante123> gotta have my christmas beer
[03:50] <`mOOse`> mOO
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  i wouldenent be worrying about  the splash screens then.
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  thats not related to the splash's :)  thats gdm
[03:51] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to change it to my preference]
[03:51] <edbian> Dr_Willis: I know, he kept calling it the login screen when asking me for help
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  GRUB menu -> ubuntu 'logo' (little white ubuntu logo on black screen) -> xsplash animation ---> GDM (you login) --> xsplash anim again.. --> actual desktop
[03:52] <Ubuntu_User> Hi I need help...and Winehq is dead
[03:52] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: alright
[03:52] <Ubuntu_User> Anyone know about wine problems?
[03:52] <edbian> kraitos: He's good huh?
[03:53] <kraitos> edbian; just a little
[03:53] <QAH> If I modify ubuntu to my liking, how can I install the system as is on different computers? Like a clone but for different hardware.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> !backup | QAH
[03:53] <edbian> QAH: There are packages for that.  Gimmie a minute I'll find it
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> QAH:  or check out the fsarchiver tool (not in the repos , but avail on several live cd's)
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Or mondo/mindi, or... proberly a dozen+ other ways to do it.
[03:54] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to change the splash screen were you login at first so there is a different picture when i login.
[03:54] <Ubuntu_User> Sorry if my question was hard
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  the splas screen is befor you login.  not 'where' you login.
[03:54] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: and i would also like to change my xsplash also
[03:54] <edbian> QAH: It's called live-magic
[03:54] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: got it. so how do i change that.
[03:54] <QAH> So if I backup the system can it run on other computers? Will I have driver problems
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  xplash files are in /usr/share/xsplash i think.
[03:55] <QAH> ebian: Thanks
[03:55] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: so do i just go there and swich files or something like that?
[03:55] <edbian> QAH: The drivers in linux are called modules.  When the system boots all of the hardware is probed live and the appropriate modules are selected by the system automatically.  There are hundreds of modules in the linux kernel
[03:55] <microhaxo> I must say, Ubuntu 9.10 is pretty damn good. No problems what so ever with my netbook, everything Ootb. A+
[03:56] <pinPoint> can anyone help me with postfix?
[03:56] <pinPoint> this -> openssl genrsa 1024 > smtpd.key
[03:56] <edbian> QAH: You can add hardware to your system and linux usually picks it up and makes it work perfectly without the user doing anything
[03:56] <Ubuntu_User> Hey I'm running KlamAV and its calling Wine and Playon linux a virus Im confused
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  yep. You can change the backgrounds and xpslash animations - theres new ones at the gnome-look.org site.
[03:56] <pinPoint> ends with permission denied whether I use sudo or not
[03:56] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[03:56] <edbian> QAH: You can switch all the hardware (move the hdd to a different computer) and the system should still work fine
[03:56] <QAH> edbian: Ok so I can move it to another pc and it will get the correct drivers
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  and if you really wanted you could put some wallpaper image on the grub menu background. thasts about all i customuze
[03:57] <QAH> Great
[03:57] <QAH> Thanks for your help
[03:57] <iceroot> QAH: correct, linux is very felxible by changing the hardware
[03:57] <edbian> QAH: It shouldn't be a problem.  All of the drivers are already in linux! :)  It's the best system ever
[03:57] <QAH> I am trying to make a personal distro.
[03:57] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: what file do i change for the background and xsplash animation?
[03:58] <edbian> QAH: AWESOME good luck!  People are very picky about their distro
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  look in the splash directory - its rather obvious.
[03:58] <iceroot> QAH: because of that you can install linux on a usb-stick and use it at every computer (same architecutre)
[03:58] <frankely> hey guys what means, ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis>   kraitos /usr/share/images/xsplash/bg_2560x1600.jpg
[03:58] <freeksh0w86> in case anyone is wondering, i got past the "Unable to find medium ... a live file system" by setting the CD drive to master not slave... the machine drew blood and is sated for now...
[03:58] <teleri> !readahead | frankely
[03:58] <`mOOse`> iceroot: I'm running on a usb persistent install right now
[03:58] <Dr_Willis>   kraitos /usr/share/images/xsplash/logo*  (is the logo) how logical. :) eh
[03:59] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[03:59] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i was just getting ready to ask the location, thanks
[03:59] <edbian> frankely: readahead is a program that makes programs launch faster by watching which ones you use the most and putting them in a cache i the ram.
[03:59] <`mOOse`> you wouldn't know it unless I told you - I got more crap on this thing than a christmas turkey
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  learn to use the locate command.
[03:59] <edbian> frankely: IT is saying that it will begin to profile what programs you use on the next reboot
[03:59] <iceroot> `mOOse`: can you change the nick without `?
[03:59] <`mOOse`> no
[03:59] <`mOOse`> sorry
[03:59] <frankely> ok
[03:59] <`mOOse`> there's another moose
[03:59] <brian_> i heard screenlets was going to be replaced with a new widget engine does any9one know what one that is???
[03:59] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i'm using konsole, i like it a little bit more
[03:59] <iceroot> `mOOse`: no, and i dont want to hold shift and ´ to write you, sorry
[04:00] <`mOOse`> iceroot: not a us keyboard?
[04:00] <`mOOse`> sorry bud :(
[04:00] <iceroot> germany
[04:00] <QAH> And last question. What packages do I need to install to get lxde
[04:00] <`mOOse`> you can just call me mOO
[04:00] <`mOOse`> I will see it :)
[04:01] <mOOey> there how's that?
[04:01] <mOOey> lol
[04:01] <iceroot> `mOOse`: i think you dont get the advantage of tab:)
[04:01] <frankely> i have a problem installing oracle 10g on my computer
[04:01] <mOOey> Oh, yes I do trust me
[04:01] <iceroot> mOOey: great, thx
[04:02] <salambander> hi all
[04:03] <salambander> is anyone else having this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339264&page=2
[04:03] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: thanks for the help
[04:03] <Ubuntu_User> why is Klamav saying wine is a virus what does loose mean?
[04:04] <koala^xmas> hi anyone speak French?
[04:04] <salambander> koala^xmas: a little :)
[04:04] <iceroot> Ubuntu_User: normal wine or an application inside wine you installed?
[04:05] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[04:05] <doug_> Hello I'm having problems with my wifi.  I'm using a broadcomm card on a gateway nv5207 laptop with xubuntu 9.04 installed.
[04:05] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: i have another question on the site i look on the splash screen or colour screen, for xsplash right?
[04:05] <Jaza> Can anyone tell me if you can make a disk at once audio CD, a CD without a break?
[04:06] <frankely> hey how can i reload /etc/environment
[04:06] <frankely> hey how can i reload /etc/environment ?
[04:06] <r3dux> Was wondering if anyone could help me connect to a NAS via USB. I connect it and see ETH1 appear, assign it an IP, then try to mount it... no joy
[04:07] <Jaza> has anyone been able to make a audio CD without the 2sec break between tracks??
[04:07] <r3dux> Jaza, have you tried k3b?
[04:08] <alankila> Jaza: the keyword for that is disc-at-once.
[04:08] <doug_> Can anyone help me with my wifi problem?  I've never had this problem before and I've googled it and there are no results at all
[04:08] <r3dux> Jaza - I used to know how to do that, but that was back in the day using nero on Win32
[04:08] <doug_> I can see other wifi networks just not mine
[04:09] <r3dux> jaza - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553185
[04:09] <Jaza> I tried K3b but every time I make a CD it adds the 2sec break between tracks?
[04:09] <silverPan> doug_ is your network set to hidden?
[04:09] <r3dux> cdrdao
[04:09] <fas3r> what's the best way to execute " shell command / script " with php ? direct with shell_exec() or write what we want execute in files and use cron (it check if file exist and execute it if true) .....
[04:09] <barraponto> how do i list all groups? (user groups, like audio, video, httpd)
[04:09] <iceroot> r3dux: nas with usb dont need eth1
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> kraitos:  just search look for 'xsplash' it will show several dozen alternatives people ahve uploaded. exore the pacakges/files you can mixx/match the logos/throbber and backgrounds if you want.
[04:09] <doug_> no my network is not hidden.
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> barraponto:  cat /etc/groups is one way i think
[04:09] <Jaza> Thanks, r3dux
[04:09] <iceroot> fas3r: as we told you in #debian  ask in #php
[04:10] <fas3r> :p
[04:10] <salambander> has anyone solved the sudden session logout problem on karmic?
[04:10] <fossiiil> Dr_Willis: it's /etc/group to be precise :-)
[04:10] <iceroot> barraponto: getent group
[04:10] <r3dux> iceroot, my nas is fine to connect to through ethernet, unfortunately I'm out on the road w/ no router - just the nas and a USB cable. It creates a ETH1 device when I connect it - damned if I can connect to the NAS tho =/
[04:10] <silverPan> doug_ did you try to see if it's accessible from a different system?  maybe it's your router...
[04:10] <ndan> i was wondering, many times i'm trapped in terminal and need to connect to a wireless access point ... no gui, my searches lead to simple iw and i can get scan and stuff to work.  but how do i actually connect.
[04:11] <barraponto> dr_willis: can i list all groups of a user?
[04:11] <kraitos> Dr_Willis: thanks, i just exchange files as long as they are the same type of file?
[04:11] <doug_> yea my brothers are all on the internet and i am currently on said laptop with a wired connection
[04:11] <iceroot> barraponto: id username
[04:11] <koala^xmas> salambander I asked someone called Maryqc to come here for aid, but I dunno if she will, she's French speaking
[04:12] <barraponto> iceroot: dr_willis: thanks a lot
[04:12] <koala^xmas> Ciao and merry Christmas
[04:12] <mordof> running karmic (9.10) with video card x1950xtx.. am i understanding the Binary Driver HowTo for ATI on the ubuntu help correctly when it says that my video card is too old, and can't use the fglrx driver anymore?  if this is true, is there any other driver that can be used? would like to try out gnome-shell.. but as it is i can't with the default drivers
[04:12] <salambander> koala^xmas: ah, thanks.  cheers
[04:12] <silverPan> barraponto if you're logged as the user in question the use 'groups' at the commandline.
[04:13] <r3dux> iceroot, have assigned the eth1 interface an IP with sudo ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.2, and I can ping it - just can't connect using "sudo mount /mnt/10.0.0.2 /mnt/Share -o user=MYUSERNAME,passowrd=MYPASSWORD"
[04:13] <zetheroo> I have been trying to create a bootable USB HDD for installing Ubuntu on other computers but I cannot get it to boot ...
[04:13] <silverPan> barraponto: try 'man groups' sometime.
[04:13] <silverPan> ;)
[04:13] <iceroot> r3dux: wrong command
[04:13] <r3dux> Sorry, forgot to put "sudo mount -t cifs", have tried "-t smbfs" too - neither work
[04:14] <Ubuntu_User> I don't know...about wine not working or KlamAV saying it's loose?
[04:14] <iceroot> r3dux: not /mnt/10.0.0.2  its mount 10.0.0.2
[04:14] <iceroot> r3dux: or //10.0.0.2 for cifs
[04:14] <jayk-> does anybody know how to force a reconfig of xwindows? i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it returns me to a root prompt within a second or two. i also tried -phigh
[04:14] <iceroot> zetheroo: usb boot enabled in bios?
[04:14] <silverPan> doug_ it;s hard to believe that you can see all other networks, except for your own, that is not hidden and connected to by others.... hmmmmm, im at a loss... i guess suggested restarts of systems and routers is a waste? o_o
[04:14] <shashike> hi
[04:15] <shashike> i  got  PHOTOSHOP cs 2
[04:15] <r3dux> Sorry, be easier if I actually copied and pasted what I've used: sudo mount -t smbfs //10.0.0.2/Share /mnt/Share -o user=USERNAME,password=PASSWORD      (where I've changed the stuff in caps)
[04:15] <Dante1231> hey guys...it worked
[04:15] <r3dux> And I have a share called, "Share"
[04:15] <shashike> will  photoshop CS2  work  on  wine??
[04:15] <Dante1231> the one from the article.....
[04:15] <doug_> I've tried that.  I'm not completely computer retarded.  I feel like its the broadcomm card
[04:15] <fromWinToLin> Anyone here use gPodder?
[04:15] <zetheroo> iceroot: yep
[04:16] <shashike> will  photoshop cs2  work  on  wine??
[04:16] <alankila> r3dux: you can try also with the command-line smbclient '\\10.0.0.2\Share''
[04:16] <iceroot> !appdb | shashike
[04:16] <zetheroo> iceroot: I can use a USB flash disk but no HDD
[04:16] <alankila> extra ', but take it away...
[04:16] <silverPan> zetheroo: what are you using to build the bootable drive??
[04:16] <mOOey> cool Dante1231!
[04:16] <Ubuntu_User> Anyone know about the program Kleansweep....? It just found like 140 mebabites of stuff...and I don't know if I should clear it all
[04:16] <mOOey> <--- `mOOse`
[04:16] <shashike> will  cracks  work  under wine??
[04:16] <silverPan> shashike: have you studied the released information on the winehq website??
[04:16] <alankila> r3dux: mount is a bit complicated to work right, so it might be easier to get smbclient right first and then work on the mount.
[04:16] <zetheroo> silverPan: unetbootin and the default ubuntu app
[04:16] <iceroot> shashike: again, please look at the appdb
[04:16] <shashike> will  cracks  work  under wine??
[04:17] <iceroot> zetheroo: and the disk is created bootable?
[04:17] <iceroot> shashike: stop that
[04:17] <shashike> but  checked  every where!!! but  cant  get  the answer  lol
[04:17] <Dante1231> mOOey yeah that simple one worked....thanks for help....sharing internet now....so dad/mom are happy and kids are happy...merry christmas all
[04:17] <poi77> Hi! I am trying to share files between my ubuntu machines. Is NFS a secure way to do this? I need it mounted onn the remote machine
[04:18] <r3dux> smbclient at least gives me a login failure (because it's trying to use my current login username not the one setup on the NAS) - will try some more smbclient stuff - thank you!
[04:18] <mOOey> yay!
[04:18] <iceroot> poi77: nfs is not secure
[04:18] <Dante1231> blackknight thanks too....although i ended up getting it to work simple way....but thanks for help/effort
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> shashike:  it all depens on the program/game and Yes. i have used no-cd-cracked games in wine. often its the only way the game will run. depending on the protection
[04:18] <mOOey> I set it up myself so when I get the chance I'm going to test it too
[04:18] <alankila> r3dux: yes, use the -U option to enter another username
[04:18] <zetheroo> iceroot: both apps say the process was competed successfully
[04:18] <Kr0ntab> poi77, if you're on a private network... its perfectly fine...
[04:18] <iceroot> poi77: maybe if you can use nfsv4
[04:18] <r3dux> Will try that now, alankila :)
[04:18] <YouMust> how can i change the permissions on my USB hdd, i put sudo chmod -rw-r--r-- /dev/sdc, but it says, chmod: /dev/sdc: new permissions are ----w----, not --------- ??
[04:18] <mOOey> <-- on laptop with usb persistent 9.10 here
[04:18] <shashike> oh
[04:19] <poi77> iceroot: What are the risks? are there alternatives?
[04:19] <shashike> thanx
[04:19] <shashike> and  merry  christams!!!!!!
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> YouMust:  one normally chmode/chowns the filesystem/files/dirctores. not the device.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> YouMust:  and it will also depend on the kind of filesystem.
[04:19] <jayk-> does anybody know how to force a reconfig of xwindows? i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it returns me to a root prompt within a second or two. i also tried -phigh
[04:19] <r3dux> smbclient //10.0.0.2/Share -U r3dux2 / Enter r3dux2's password: / Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.4.0] / tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[04:19] <r3dux> So close :D
[04:19] <YouMust> Dr_Willis, thankyou its ext2 is that ok?
[04:19] <iceroot> poi77: the problem is you dont have user-login just access controlling for ip-adresses (with nfs less then v4)
[04:20] <silverPan> zetheroo: not trying to avoid directly answering your question... but i use usb-creator without a hitch.  it's in the repositories.... don't forget to make sure your bios is set to boot the drive.
[04:20] <poi77> iceroot: Thanks, but can you explain in simpler terms?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> YouMust:  you use the prioper chmod/chown command to set the permissions of the files/directories. chmod/chowning the /media/whatever mountpoint will change the  ownership of the 'root' of the drive. but not all the drive
[04:20] <mOOey> also the pendrive apps work great for setting up a persistent casper-rw on a usb drive
[04:20] <iceroot> poi77: its it just for a private network?
[04:20] <poi77> iceroot: No its over the internet
[04:21] <iceroot> poi77: hm
[04:21] <poi77> iceroot: Sorry?
[04:21] <YouMust> Dr_Willis: so it would be best just to make a directory on that device and use that ?
[04:21] <mordof> the libnotify .. notification popup - is there a way to configure the offset for it? it's way in the middle of my screen (just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04)
[04:21] <iceroot> poi77: and who should access the nfs-share?
[04:22] <silverPan> poi77: do you just need to access files on a linux server remotely? i use KFTP
[04:22] <poi77> iceroot: Only me
[04:22] <iceroot> poi77: static ip?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> YouMust:  thats what i always do
[04:22] <zetheroo> silverPan: will try that one out .. and yes the boot device is set to USB first
[04:22] <silverPan> poi77: it will handle SSH/SCP protocols... i also use DyDNS
[04:22] <poi77> iceroot: On my desktop (in the office), yes. On my home PC (the one accessing the files), no
[04:22] <YouMust> Dr_Willis: sounds fine too me :D thx
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> YouMust:  sudo mkdir UsersStuff    then 'sudo chown user.user UsersStuff' Or somthing like that
[04:22] <mOOey> there should be a channel for usb installs ;-)
[04:23] <terrorink> how do i set up the ctrl alt backspace kill x server ?
[04:23] <pepperjack> poi77: just setup samba its like 3 lines is smb.conf :)
[04:23] <iceroot> poi77: then nfs is not a good idea, because its hard to manage the login-process if not using nfsv4
[04:23] <poi77> silverPan: SSH/SCP (at least the gui) does not really mount, so some software can't access files
[04:23] <johntramp> can i install ubuntu from a usb stick using dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb ?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> johntramp:  No. that wont work
[04:23] <iceroot> poi77: maybe have a look at sshfs
[04:23] <johntramp> ok
[04:23] <mOOey> johntramp: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[04:23] <pepperjack> q
[04:23] <r3dux> terrorink - you can do it, but you could also just do Right-CTRL+PrntScrn+K to do the same thing
[04:23] <iceroot> poi77: or cifs (user login instead of ip-login)
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> johntramp:  you can set up grub2 to boot an iso file. :) thats close..
[04:24] <YouMust> Dr_Willis can i get a group to bea ble to read the folder
[04:24] <silverPan> poi77: mount over internet is REALLY risky if there is a chance for disconnects.
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> YouMust:  proberly can. I rareluy mess with groups.  Small home lans here.
[04:24] <johntramp> Dr_Willis: i think i am only using grub1
[04:24] <poi77> iceroot: Do any of these allow mounting?
[04:24] <nanotube> about my earlier question about usb-creator: i upgraded to jaunty's version of usb-creator (i'm on intrepid), and then it recognized my usb hdd without any trouble. so... for future reference. :)
[04:25] <terrorink> how do i set up the ctrl alt backspace kill x server ? im on 9.04
[04:25] <poi77> silverPan: Thanks, in what sense is it risky (security, data loss, crashes?)
[04:25] <mOOey> nanotube: awesome
[04:25] <silverPan> poi77: what are you trying to accomplish... a mount may not be needed?
[04:25] <mOOey> I know how frustrating it is!
[04:25] <iceroot> poi77: yes, cifs and sshfs can be mounted
[04:25] <monra> Hello. When I click the key "\" in my Ubuntu I get a "GNOME Terminal Help" instead of the key. So I cannot write this key only if I close X. Any ideas why is this happening or how to fix it?
[04:25] <johntramp> Dr_Willis: i am sure i did something similar when installing archlinux from a usb stick
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> !dontzap | terrorink
[04:25] <silverPan> poi77: yeah, imagine a newb hot swap.... jerk cord... re-insert cord?!?! O_O definite data loss dude!
[04:25] <johntramp> or would that have been a special image?
[04:26] <iceroot> poi77: with sshfs you have crypted data-transfer
[04:26] <terrorink> i dont wanna restart it i wanna kill it
[04:26] <r3dux> dontzap... that's the one.... | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[04:26] <keth802> hey having trouble with internets. I can connect to any unsecured network, but I can't connect to anything with WPA, WEP, PEAP, anything
[04:26] <terrorink> im in 9.04 not 9.10
[04:26] <terrorink> yea dontzap works for 9.10
[04:26] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[04:26] <terrorink> it even says for 9.10 and higher
[04:26] <r3dux> RightCTRL+PrintScrn+K does the same thing. terror - dontzap works on both.
[04:26] <r3dux> sudo apt-get install dontzap
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> dontzap is for 9.04 = Jaunty I think
[04:27] <terrorink> well i just pressed it like 5 times holding all down and it dont work
[04:27] <r3dux> reboot 1st.
[04:27] <poi77> silverPan: I need to be able to access files from programs that do not appear to support Ubuntu's sftp://... system
[04:27] <terrorink> i tried dontzap it just restarts x
[04:27] <terrorink> it doesnt kill to terminal
[04:27] <gourd_captain1> How do I install sound juicer in Xubuntu 9.10 without it installing PulseAudio as well?
[04:27] <poi77> silverPan: i.e., those directories cannot be accesed
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  thats because gdm is restarting.. it DID  kill X. and gdm respanws it like its set up to.
[04:27] <r3dux> It just restarts X? Tat what Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is supposed to do? What did you expect to happen?
[04:27] <Whompapotamus> any vsftpd supports in here tonight... have an error that i can
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  if you want no X going.. stop the gdm service
[04:28] <Whompapotamus> can't quite solve
[04:28] <iceroot> !details | Whompapotamus
[04:28] <terrorink> ok is there a shortcut command to kill x ?
[04:28] <downgrade> what day today?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  stop the gdm service...
[04:28] <silverPan> poi77: i see what your are saying.  hang on a sec, i've been researching this issue for our office...
[04:28] <r3dux> If you want no X going, boot to a different runlevel
[04:28] <terrorink> i wanna be able to do it on command :\
[04:28] <Billiard> terrorink: sudo service gdm stop
[04:28] <iceroot> r3dux: ubuntu is not using different runlevels like suse
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  then bind the command to stop gdm to some key combo,.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> 'gksu service stop'
[04:29] <poi77> silverPan: thanks!
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  this is linux.. of course you can do that. :)
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> 'linux - Your OS - Your Way'
[04:29] <r3dux> My understanding was that all linux distros use runlevels, and you could boot to runlevel 1 by modifying your grub line, for the easiest way
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> 'once you figure out how'
[04:29] <keth802> i am using ubuntu 9.10 on an old hp pavillion ze5300 laptop. the wireless card works perfectly and i can connect to unsecured networks, however i can't connect to my home network because it's secured. Help?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  ubuntu dosent use the sysv system  like others do.. runlevels are not  quite the same as they used to be years ago.
[04:30] <alankila> r3dux: runlevels are no longer user servicable parts, really. System uses them to reboot and shut down, and there is single user mode at runlevel 1, for certain emergencies and administrative tasks
[04:30] <terrorink> mm is there anyway to make it work without pass ?
[04:30] <Whompapotamus> I have a question with SSL for vsftpd - i have created my config file correctly and can connect on my local host and LAN... but receive this error when trying to connect via internet: 234 Proceed with negotiation.
[04:30] <Whompapotamus> ftp: SSL_connect error error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)
[04:30] <Whompapotamus> : Success
[04:30] <r3dux> Guess I'm behind the times - thanks for hitting me with the clue-stick :)
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  read up on the 'sudoers' file. and set it where the user dosent need the pass for that command. is one way
[04:30] <Billiard> terrorink: could put a line in the sudoers file so that command does not need a pass
[04:31] <terrorink> ok where is it ?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> I cant imagine why someone would need to 'kill X to the console' often enoggh to justify a keybinding, no password'
[04:31] <terrorink> directory ?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  start with 'man sudoers' and read up on sudoers configuration.
[04:31] <alankila> and doesn't GDM have a console login option hidden somewhere?
[04:31] <iceroot> terrorink: /etc/sudoers
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> terrorink:  and thers no need to msg me..
[04:32] <i_is_broke> how hard is wubi to install?
[04:32] <r3dux> I've had to move out of X to install graphics drivers before, but by going to TTY1 (ctrl-alt-f1?), kill gdm, install driver, back to tty7, start gdm
[04:32] <iceroot> i_is_broke: not hard
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> alankila:  i forget. :) it doable.  you could make a gdm session that does 'sudo service gdm stop' :)
[04:32] <zetheroo> silverPan: usb-creator is the default Ubuntu utility for this ... so its not working for me
[04:32] <i_is_broke> im not able to partition this hard drive as my mother in law doesnt know much about computers and it would confuse her.
[04:32] <alankila> Dr_Willis: no, I think there is some kind of temporary console login option somewhere in the GDM menus... or there used to be. I am not inclined to look right now because I'm logged in X right now
[04:32] <iceroot> r3dux: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop is nicer then kill gdm
[04:32] <mOOey> zetheroo: what build are you trying to install?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> i_is_broke:  i would suggest trying it in  virtualbox. I personally hate wubi. :)
[04:33] <gp__> merry chrismas
[04:33] <alankila> iceroot: but no longer really recommendable -- some /etc/init.d/foo no longer do anything... you have to use the service command...
[04:33] <r3dux> iceroot, this is true - I might have done that, it was a while ago :)
[04:33] <Heth> Hi! I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and I don't see my SSID anymore. I see others tho. I use channel 13, any hints?
[04:33] <gp__>  hello I just updraded to karmic koala and its able to set the display resolutio
[04:33] <iceroot> alankila: changed in 9.10?
[04:33] <i_is_broke> Dr_Willis, i agree, but dont know if this computer will even run vbox ill have to look into the specs of it.
[04:33] <alankila> iceroot: in fact, yes.
[04:33] <gp__> when i restarted it said ur booting low graphic mode and then was not able set my screen resolution
[04:33] <gp__> [09:49] <gp> it was working perfectly in kubuntu draper
[04:33] <gp__> [09:51] <gp> My system is Hp proliant ML110
[04:33] <iceroot> alankila: hm, ok, i am still on hardy
[04:34] <pepperjack> i_is_broke: you can always hide the boot menu so she always  boots win by default and just hit esc key to get menu and choose ubuntu ;)
[04:34] <gp__> and Display is Sansung SyncMaster 940 BW -> 19 inch with 1400 X900 display
[04:34] <keth802> i need some internet help. I can't connect to secured networks. I have ubuntu 9.10 and i know the wireless card is working because i can connect to unsecured networks. help please?
[04:34] <Heth> Hi! I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and I don't see my wireless SSID anymore. I see others tho. I use channel 13, any hints?
[04:34] <gp__> and Display is Sansung SyncMaster 940 BW -> 19 inch with 1400 X900 display
[04:34] <gp__>  hello I just updraded to karmic koala and its able to set the display resolutio
[04:34] <iceroot> !repeat | Heth
[04:34] <i_is_broke> pepperjack, thanks i didnt think about that.
[04:34] <zetheroo> mOOey: any .. does not make a diff ... the HDD is not bootable
[04:34] <i_is_broke> how much memory would ubuntu need to run half way smooth?
[04:35] <pepperjack> keth802: id check ubuntu forums first by searching for your wireless card.  if its wpa that doesnt work its probably just a driver problem and.. you may be able to use the windows driver instead
[04:35] <gp__> is INTEL GRAPHIC BUG IN KARMIC KOALA
[04:35] <i_is_broke> it only has 1 gig of mem.
[04:35] <silverPan> poi77: iceroot had the best recommendation with sshfs... i dont know how it handles disconnects... be sure to read up on this... everything else i have looked into has been third party solutions.
[04:35] <r3dux> Heth - that's really odd... Tried rebooting your router to make sure it's actually up, running and broadcasting - I don't see how a channel change would be responsible
[04:35] <gp__> i am unable to set resolution
[04:35] <mOOey> gp__: in gnome?
[04:35] <Heth> r3dux, I had the same problem before, not seeing 11-13 wireless channels.
[04:35] <r3dux> Heth - I would install backports though, just incase
[04:35] <silverPan> poi77: for important files, i usually sync, and then just use the file locally, then re-sync.
[04:35] <gp__> in kubuntu and gnome
[04:35] <Heth> r3dux, installed everything up to now
[04:36] <poi77> iceroot: Does sshfs need to be installed on the remote machine?
[04:36] <iceroot> poi77: yes, its not there by default
[04:36] <gp__> it alaways says low reslotion graphic
[04:36] <r3dux> Heth, I had to drop my wireless channels down for my Wii to see the network - could you not try dropping the channel down from the router?
[04:36] <gp__> HELP ME PL
[04:36] <iceroot> poi77: on server you have to install openssh-server  on client you have to install sshfs
[04:36] <Heth> r3dux, the fix in 9.04 was to add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/options but this file does not exist anymore
[04:36] <gp__> is INTEL GRAPHIC BUG STILL IN KARMIC KOALA?
[04:36] <poi77> iceroot: Thank you very much
[04:36] <iceroot> poi77: you are welcome
[04:36] <r3dux> Heth - you could try it..
[04:36] <silverPan> poi77, iceroot: i thought sshfs was a local client that connected to the servers sshd?
[04:37] <Heth> r3dux, the problem is I cannot change my channels cause I have not access to it :/
[04:37] <iceroot> silverPan: correct
[04:37] <gp__>  hello I just updraded to karmic koala and its UNABLE to set the display resolutio
[04:37] <poi77> silverPan: what is sunc
[04:37] <downgrade> gp__: I'm downgrade to 9.04 right now, don't sentimental.
[04:37] <i_is_broke> im going to try vbox with lxde with 500 megs of ram i think it will run pretty descent like that..will let you know more when i get to that bridge.
[04:37] <TangentCollision> HELLO
[04:37] <mOOey> gp__ in gnome, right click on the desktop and go to Change Desktop Background, then to the last tab on right Visual Effects and switch it to Basic
[04:37] <iceroot> poi77: man rsync
[04:37] <poi77> silverPan: sync, sorry
[04:37] <zetheroo> does anyone know how to make the GRUB menu not show on boot?
[04:37] <gp__> WTF
[04:37] <poi77> silverPan: Thanks!
[04:37] <iceroot> zetheroo: grub 1 or 2?
[04:37] <freeksh0w86> i'm having trouble syncing a 4g 8g black iPod in rhythmbox... the songs show up in rhythmbox but not the iPod. i'm on ubuntu 9.10 btw
[04:37] <zetheroo> 2
[04:38] <zetheroo> iceroot: 2
[04:38] <r3dux> Heth, ahh... that's no good... Have your tried adding in the line you added before?
[04:38] <freeksh0w86> *4th-generation 8G ipod sorry
[04:38] <TangentCollision> I would like to know what window manager and configuration that ubuntu netbook remix uses?
[04:38] <TangentCollision> -?
[04:38] <iceroot> !grub2 | zetheroo
[04:38] <silverPan> iceroot: i see.... do you have a much experience with sshfs? been through some disconnects at rather inopportune times?  O_o
[04:38] <poi77> iceroot: thanks!
[04:38] <freeksh0w86> !ipod
[04:38] <gp__> I have tried every thing its low working in low resolution
[04:38] <iceroot> silverPan: no, sorry
[04:38] <Heth> r3dux, yes. but since the file is missing I suppose the config is moved somewhere else, do you know where?
[04:38] <iceroot> silverPan: never had ones
[04:38] <bastidrazor> !nbr | TangentCollision check here
[04:38] <silverPan> iceroot: pooh... i will have to test it out then.
[04:39] <iceroot> silverPan: yes try it, its nice
[04:39] <downgrade> gp__: what kind brand type?
[04:39] <silverPan> iceroot, poi77: sounds VERY promising
[04:39] <alankila> Heth: you can probably just make something like "options.conf" and it will just pick it up automatically.
[04:39] <iceroot> gp__: what graphic card?
[04:39] <r3dux> Heth - "locate modprobe.d"
[04:39] <gp__> intel
[04:39] <PC_Nerd101> Hi - regarding bug #156652, it says its been fixed and the patch released, but the current version of apt-cacher is still 1.6.8 instead of 1.6.9 - which is the version in which the debian bug repository states is the stable/fixed version.... does anyone know when the patch will be released?
[04:40] <Heth> alankila, on the original it's only "options" and it did not work
[04:40] <gp__> iceroot: intel
[04:40] <alankila> Heth: that's how modprobe.d stuff is supposed to work, anyway... independent configuration files.
[04:40] <downgrade> gp__: intel 945?
[04:40] <alankila> Heth: I'm not sure about the suffix, but the other files in that directory all end in .conf, so I suggest yours do as well.
[04:41] <Heth> alankila, thanks I'll try that now :)
[04:41] <alankila> Heth: there is some sensitivity to the exact name because old files are left around with names like foo.conf.dpkg-old and it's undesirable that they get executed.
[04:41] <kloot> anyone good with networks? I want to share a folder that's going to ask for a password when someone tries to access from a windows system
[04:42] <alankila> Heth: also, as an emergency workaround you should be able to rmmod the module and then modprobe it with the right option so you can always get past this problem even if passing the option automatically didn't work right now...
[04:42] <iceroot> kloot: cifs, smbfs
[04:42] <zetheroo> guys I am getting nowhere with the documentation on grub2 ... does anyone know how to hide the boot menu?
[04:42] <kloot> smbfs? I installed samba, but what is smbfs? I'm an ubuntu noob, sorry :$
[04:42] <r3dux> Set the timer to 0?
[04:43] <woyeuxnowel> yes timer 0
[04:43] <TangentCollision> bastidrazor: dude, I know what the hell it is, but I want to know what desktop enviroment/window manager/themepack UNR uses.
[04:43] <Heth> alankila, mhm. I have a file named "options.dpkg-bak with my old settings.
[04:43] <alankila> Heth: just rename that to options.conf then...
[04:43] <kloot> iceroot: smbfs? I installed samba, but what is smbfs? I'm an ubuntu noob, sorry :$
[04:44] <gp__> *-display UNCLAIMED
[04:44] <gp__>        description: VGA compatible controller
[04:44] <iceroot> kloot: ah sorry missread your question, you are using samba to create a share and want the user to type in a pass if he is accessing the share?
[04:44] <gp__>        product: MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1)
[04:44] <gp__>        vendor: Matrox Graphics, Inc.
[04:44] <gp__>        physical id: 0
[04:44] <FloodBot2> gp__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <gp__>        bus info: pci@0000:0d:00.0
[04:44] <kloot> yeah that's it :D
[04:44] <iceroot> gp__: matrox != intel
[04:45] <doug_> ok so i found a driver for my broadcomm card, but i literally have no idea how to install a tar and to be honest i'm not understanding what google is telling me to do
[04:45] <kloot> iceroot - so any ideas? :(
[04:46] <bastidrazor> TangentCollision: dude, possibly the site was going to give some more information about what you wanted.  I guess you using google to look is a bit too intense and straining. good luck.
[04:46] <gp__> damn its Matrox Graphics :-(
[04:46] <iceroot> kloot: disabling guest access on the share-config in smb.conf
[04:46] <Cornrows> I lubs me sum ubuntuuus!
[04:46] <Cornrows> Were da hoes at niggas?
[04:46] <Cornrows> Tired of nigger babble and general monkeyshines?
[04:46] <Cornrows> Join us at http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[04:46] <TangentCollision> bastidrazor: I really have no idea why I can't get a simple answer from the general support channel of a distribution
[04:46] <pepperjack> doug_: open a terminal and cd into that directory containing the tar. if its a tar.gz then type: tar xfvz file.tar.gz  there should be a readme file in that tar or you can post the link youre reading here in the channel for us to look at
[04:47] <Cornrows> We are not White Supremacists.
[04:47] <Cornrows> We welcome anybody who isn't a nigger and that hates niggers!
[04:47] <Cornrows> I myself am a Mexican!
[04:47] <iceroot> !op | Cornrows
[04:47] <bastidrazor> Cornrows: please stop with the racism. take it else where
[04:47] <Cornrows> Ya te cansaste de los mayates y sus changadas?
[04:47] <Cornrows> Unase a Chimpout forum!
[04:47] <Cornrows> http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[04:48] <Cornrows> Niggers = Homo Erectus!
[04:48] <jtaji> !ops | Cornrows
[04:48] <r3dux> Cornrows - you're such a tool. Go away.
[04:48] <Spence> Hey guys, I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and I need help partitioning my HDD. Anyone help me please>>
[04:48] <CrocoJet> Why do I see only "PulseAudio Server (sound devices) in my devices list when trying setup skype ?
[04:48] <iceroot> !gparted | Spence
[04:49] <Plankton> Spence
[04:49] <Plankton> Check out http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[04:49] <jtaji> !ops | Plankton
[04:49] <alankila> That chimpout is like double fail. Not only is it comically racist to the point that I suspect it could be satirical, there's idiots around who endear it to everyone by spamming channels.
[04:49] <Plankton> if you hate niggers!
[04:49] <Spence> I do.
[04:49] <r3dux> Get a life.
[04:49] <Plankton> join Chimpout.com/forum
[04:49] <kloot> iceroot, got it. Thanks a lot dude.
[04:49] <Plankton> we welcome all non-niggers!
[04:49] <iceroot> kloot: np
[04:50] <Plankton> http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[04:50] <Plankton> The ops won't come.
[04:50] <FloodBot2> Plankton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <Plankton> stfu floodbot2!
[04:50] <Plankton> ubotto: Help!
[04:50] <Plankton> !help ubottu
[04:51] <Plankton> !ops ubottu
[04:51] <silverPan> %^/
[04:51] <r3dux> Plankton, you're a sad, sad specimen.
[04:52] <silverPan> racism = penis envy ;)
[04:52] <r3dux> lol
[04:52] <Spence> lmao
[04:52] <r3dux> racism |= ignorance
[04:52] <Plankton> That is the only thing niggers have going for them
[04:52] <Spence> Can someone help me with GParted please!
[04:53] <Plankton> they brag about their dick size
[04:53] <Plankton> "muh dik muggafuggas!"
[04:53] <r3dux> Sure Spence, what's the issue?
[04:53] <Jeruvy> !language Plankton
[04:53] <silverPan> Spence: what's up, big guy?
[04:53] <Jeruvy> !language | Plankton
[04:53] <arghh2d2> sheeeeeeeeit
[04:53] <Plankton> Average Nigger IQ 80
[04:53] <Plankton> Average Human IQ 100
[04:53] <Plankton> 80 is borderline retarded
[04:53] <r3dux> Plankton IQ 65
[04:53] <arghh2d2> i beh muh diih biggah den dah warden dih
[04:53] <Jeruvy> I was going for 30
[04:53] <mOOey> average Plankton IQ...wait - Plankton don't have brains
[04:53] <arghh2d2> sheeeeeit
[04:54] <Heth> alankila, is there a way to make modprobe.d reload that file now? I made the .conf
[04:55] <Spence> r3dux, I can't figure out how to make a new partition. what i want to do, is make the partition i'm using for ubuntu smaller so i can install windows so i can dual boot.. but again, i cant figure out how to re partition everything and make my main partition smaller.
[04:55] <r3dux> Maybe through lsmod?
[04:55] <alankila> Heth: don't know, sadly. Try to rmmod the module and modprobe it in right after
[04:55] <alankila> might work, might not
[04:55] <r3dux> sorry, insmod
[04:55] <gp__> hello
[04:55] <Plankton> niggers
[04:55] <Plankton> suck
[04:55] <Plankton> I have free reign over freenode!
[04:55] <silverPan> gp_: got banned dude?
[04:55] <Plankton> Because I am an oper!
[04:55] <r3dux> No idea - sorry, you could prolly modprobe it
[04:56] <Plankton> gp__ gets banned
[04:56] <Plankton> and I don't
[04:56] <gp__> silverPan: yeah by flood bot
[04:56] <Plankton> there is justice in the world
[04:56] <r3dux> Yes, there is.
[04:56] <silverPan> gp_: if you have a lot of input to share, use dpaste. ^_^
[04:56] <r3dux> And you'll be gone soon, Plankton.
[04:56] <Jamed> !ops | would anyone please ban Plankton
[04:56] <Plankton> nobody is complaining about me in #freenode
[04:57] <Plankton> if you want to get rid of me so bad, then go there!
[04:57] <mine> how to make mldonkey work
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> Let us be civil.
[04:57] <mine> mine is 3.0
[04:57] <Plankton> !ops | Would anybody please ban Jamed
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> Plankton: That's enough.
[04:57] <arghh2d2> !ops | ubottu
[04:57] <gp__> hello how to solve my problem
[04:58] <mOOey> get rid of that matrox would be a good start
[04:58] <mine> how to make mldonkey work ,mine is 3.0 gui
[04:58] <mOOey> ;-)
[04:58] <gp__> cant
[04:58] <arghh2d2> !ops | arghh2d2
[04:58] <KB1JWQ> gp__: Paste the issue to a pastebin please. :-
[04:59] <silverPan> heh, gp_ ... you may want to try and restate your problem in close to complete sentences and dpasted log and config files ^_^
[04:59] <gp__> ok
[04:59] <mOOey> he's got a matrox vid card and he's stuck in low res
[04:59] <mOOey> how'd I do?
[04:59] <arghh2d2> guess what i got yall for christmas
[05:00] <arghh2d2> same thing i got ya last year
[05:00] <KB1JWQ> arghh2d2: That's enough.  Please stop.
[05:00] <arghh2d2> !ops | KB1JWQ
[05:00] <freetos> is there a way to adjust video ram in 9.10 via software, I'd like to assign more video memory to my pc
[05:00] <Plankton> LMAO
[05:01] <Plankton> buwahahahahahahaha~
[05:01] <alankila> freetos: BIOS?
[05:01] <mordof> does anyone know of any way to install ATI Catalyst 9.3 on Karmic? is it possible?
[05:01] <Plankton> Les voy a chingar bien!
[05:01] <Plankton> Tired of niggers?
[05:01] <Plankton> Sick of their monkeyshines?
[05:01] <freetos> alankila,  your probably right
[05:01] <FloodBot2> Plankton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <jtaji> KB1JWQ: you could take care of Plankton too, please
[05:01] <Plankton> http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[05:01] <silverPan> Spence: there is a resize option after you highlight the devices's partition.  its on the gui and under the "Partition" header.
[05:02] <jtaji> KB1JWQ: cheers
[05:02] <mOOey> mordof:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.5&lang=English
[05:02] <silverPan> Spence: don't know if you've figured this out yet.
[05:02] <freeksh0w86> !ipod
[05:02] <r3dux> silverpan - he had the drive mounted, I told him to boot from a live CD so he can modify the partition, should be fine.
[05:03] <mordof> mOOey: i can't use that driver
[05:03] <mordof> mOOey: there's a reason i need catalyst 9.3
[05:03] <Real_Christmas> How much bandwith and powerful server do I have to use to let say for example 100, 1000 or 10 000 people shall use my servers as "proxy-servers" for watching youtube videos, chatt, visit ordinary web pages (Facebook, Flickr etc)? They will not be allowed to use BitTorrent or other P2P services?
[05:03] <silverPan> redux:  okies! :)
[05:04] <mOOey> sorry - don't know mordof
[05:04] <mordof> mOOey: i have an x1950xtx card.. considered legacy now *sighs*.. latest catalyst support is 9.3, and they don't update for support of newer xserver updates anymore
[05:04] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, if you're allowing http, you can't deny p2p
[05:04] <r00t_> how do i use wget to download photbucket albums?
[05:04] <r3dux> Real_Christmas - A lot. I used to set my website to be used as a proxy for boingboing.net (because it was blocked in many countries) - I can give you the script if you'd like
[05:04] <mordof> even in 9.04 i had to downgrade many packages and lock them in order to install fglrx from 9.3
[05:04]  * mordof sighs.
[05:04] <cwillu_at_work> unless you have a magical way of telling normal http traffic from p2p tunnelled over http
[05:05] <mordof> wonderful... no more 3D support for linux -.-;
[05:05] <cwillu_at_work> mordof, complain to ati to get their drivers packaged for modern x servers
[05:05] <krishmish> any one help me with ncsa auth
[05:05] <mordof> cwillu_at_work: does that have ANY hope of working? lol
[05:06] <alankila> mordof: "don't buy ATI" is an old saying in these parts.
[05:06] <cwillu_at_work> mordof, nvidia does a good job, given that they're still stuck in the proprietary mindrut
[05:06] <PC_Nerd101> any information about the release o apt-cacher 1.6.9 - there is a bug fix in that version that was said to be released to ubuntu repositories - but the debian patch was 1.6.9 not 1.6.8 which is in the ubuntu repo's.... any ieas
[05:06] <r3dux> ATI is okay. NVidia is better for linux these days, but you can still get ATI stuff working, given time
[05:06] <mOOey> btw that's a great question - what IS a good vid card co. to buy for linux?
[05:06] <cwillu_at_work> also, you might try the open ati driver, support has been getting quite a bit better lately
[05:06] <alankila> I'm screwed too because I have ATI X1250 on this laptop. After a year of very poor 3d, the open-source radeonhd is better, but the screen seems to jerk downwards randomly and has always done that.
[05:07] <sebsebseb> !hardware
[05:07] <alankila> fglrx stopped supporting my card almost instantly because the "open source driver" was free enough. Bah.
[05:07] <alankila> err... was good enough
[05:07] <mordof> alankila: i do know of a solution to get older fglrx drivers working.. but it may limit some newer apps that depend on the later xserver versions
[05:07] <Heth> Need help on using wireless on channel 13. SSIDs are not scanned
[05:07] <mordof> available to you if you don't need the newer versions and are free to downgrade
[05:08] <r3dux> If I was buying a new machine, I think I'd favour NVid, but not my much, only because I'm willing to put in the time to fix it up nicely, and because I mainly use a XBox 360 for gaming anyway ;)
[05:08] <mordof> cwillu_at_work: open driver?
[05:08] <Jamed> alankila: i had the same problem with my X1600, they just dropped the support :(
[05:08] <cwillu_at_work> mordof, well, the default
[05:08] <alankila> mordof: yes, I suppose. In practice radeonhd is good enough for me, not worth the hassle. I just live with screen jerking every now and then
[05:08] <Heth> alankila, sadly this module is no longer used. they use CRDA now which is not working for me for some reason
[05:08] <r3dux> Also, if you really wanted to game - wouldn't you just boot into windows?
[05:08] <alankila> Heth: ow, that complicated matters, I guess
[05:08] <mordof> cwillu_at_work: horrid 3D support. trying to run gnome-shell
[05:08]  * cwillu_at_work patiently waits for the days of proper ati-developed open drivers
[05:08] <mordof> r3dux: 3D support isn't always for gaming
[05:08] <mOOey> I keep hearing nvidia is about .05" away from bankruptcy though
[05:08] <Heth> alankila, indeed.
[05:09] <r3dux> I've tried steam on linux via Wine, and it's been pretty nasty
[05:09] <mOOey> not sure I wanna take that gamble with them right now
[05:09] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, and no, I'd boot into the 1.2beta of tremulous and play that instead
[05:09] <sebsebseb> mOOey: Nivida have the best graphics card support or so it seems.  Also those bot hardware links above, might help.
[05:09] <r3dux> boot into tremulous?
[05:09] <r3dux> I really don't know what you mean, sorry! :)
[05:09] <mOOey> yea, thank you sebsebseb - I loaded them and am looking right now
[05:09] <Heth> Need help on using wireless on channel 13. SSIDs are not scanned
[05:09] <mordof> i just want to try out gnome-shell -.-;
[05:09] <mordof> stupid ati
[05:10] <dto> anyone get a wacom bamboo pen tablet working in Ubuntu Karmic?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> mOOey: ok np
[05:12] <r00t_> how do i use wget to download photbucket albums?
[05:12] <r3dux> mordof - 3D Support goes into two camps: OpenGL and Direct3D - if you need 3D in linux it has to point to OpenGL - and what other use asides from gaming did you have in mind?
[05:12] <mordof> r3dux: gnome-shell, compiz, etc
[05:12] <mordof> r3dux: like i said, there's more to better vid card support than JUST gaming
[05:13] <r3dux> I use compiz, not tried gnome-shell - and I wasn't saying there wasn't, mordof - I was humbly asking what you had in mind.
[05:13] <mordof> ah
[05:14] <mordof> i had heard gnome-shell was based around JS/CSS support.. and i'm decent in those areas, so it would've been cool to get a chance to make stuff for it
[05:14] <Heth> Need help on using wireless on channels out of 1-11 range. (non-US) can't see my SSID at home
[05:14] <mordof> gnome-shell is sooo slow as it is
[05:15] <mOOey> I'd just like to get that aero thing goin on this dell 600m laptop, but my graphics memory isn't detected so I default to the low res (which is still perfectly acceptable)
[05:15] <teleri> on UNR 9.10 on a Acer Aspire D250 and two-Finger scrolling does not work even when enabled
[05:15] <sebsebseb> mOOey: Aero thing????  Merry Christmas by the way, if you celebrate.
[05:16] <mOOey> thanks seb...yea, you know, the 3-d look (I used aero tongue-in-cheek) - I meant it would be nice to have that capability (which I'd play with for 10 mins and turn off cause it'd eat resources)
[05:16] <krishmish> any one help me with ncsa auth
[05:17] <mOOey> merry christmas to you too! (and everybody!)
[05:17] <soreau> r3dux: I would recommend investing in one of the newer ATI graphics cards. Both drivers for it work well enough for most all linux needs and the open driver is improving by leaps and bounds with the new driver structure that is being written thanks to AMD opening up ATI hardware specs
[05:17] <alankila> soreau: I think I read that as "it currently sucks"
[05:17] <opticon> for ubuntu what can i use to control video card fan speed
[05:17] <opticon> ccc doesnt work
[05:17] <sebsebseb> mOOey: Not everyone that comes here celebrates.  When I think of Aero  I think of Windows.
[05:18] <mOOey> that was what I meant too seb hehe
[05:18] <soreau> alankila: You can read it however you want. The fact is it already works well and only will get better in the future
[05:18] <alankila> always the same mantra about "stuff is improving a lot in every new version". And then, I'd like to add, it gets worse as key pieces get rewritten from scratch and clock goes back a few years and then we're back on the improvement game.
[05:18] <mOOey> you know, all the shadowey edges and the zooming windows, etc
[05:18] <sebsebseb> mOOey: oh
[05:19] <mOOey> it's frustrating sometimes alankila
[05:19] <mOOey> I understand exactly what you mean
[05:19] <Heth> alankila, is there a way I can see a log from modprobe on parsing that line?
[05:19]  * alankila thinks KDE 4 is one of the best examples about what I'm talking about. Nice desktop, and then push the reset button and start over and spend a few years getting most of what used to work working again...
[05:19] <alankila> Heth: you perhaps need a crash course on modutils
[05:19] <alankila> Heth: the options line is useless if there is no module to use the option you painstakingly set up
[05:20] <nathan__> is it possible to run a script just before network manager takes down a device?
[05:20] <Real_Christmas> r3dux: Well, I'm planning to start a company. I have an idea, bur right now I just want to check if it's possible or not. Therefore I ask.
[05:20] <Heth> alankila, I'm still not sure about if it exists or not, that's why i need to see the logs since there should be noted
[05:20] <alankila> Heth: well, try dmesg, maybe it has a clue. Try to lsmod, grep for the module name.
[05:21] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Hm, I have to stop "my" users from using programs like DC++, Deluge etc. I cannot afford being responsible for illegal file sharing. Why isn't it possible to stop BitTorrent traffic or DC++ traffic?
[05:22] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, I'd consider speaking to a lawyer
[05:22] <Jeruvy> Real_Christmas: why not consider content filtering at the DNS?
[05:22] <mOOey> Real_Christmas: it is possible - libraries and schools do it all the time, BUT - the savvy user can usually figure out a way to bypass those censoring tools
[05:22] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, in principle, unless you're whitelisting sites instead of blacklisting then, and you only whitelist sites that have no holes (intentional or otherwise), you can't prevent it
[05:23] <cwillu_at_work> mOOey, always, not usually
[05:23] <mOOey> heh - ok, always ;-)
[05:24] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Actually, I plan to only allow a few sites, like whitelisting 100 most popular web sites, NOT TPB. :)
[05:24] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, tpb is _not_ your problem
[05:24] <Jamed> Real_Christmas: you could use a proxy that stops every traffic but http, pop3, imap and/or smtp, depending on what is needed to stop bittorrent
[05:24]  * cwillu_at_work grimaces
[05:24] <KB1JWQ> Real_Christmas: What kind of environment is this?  Office, school, etc?
[05:25] <opticon> sounds like application layered firewall would do it
[05:25] <cwillu_at_work> every protocol in the world has a 'tunnel over http' mode for precisely the reason that everyone thinks its "just webpages"
[05:25] <Ozzah> Hi, I have a HDD (/dev/sda) with a bad sector on it, and my RAID card isn't picking it up. I want to do a full wipe of the entire drive, mbr, partition tables, everything. How do I do this in Ubuntu? Thanks :)
[05:25] <Real_Christmas> cwillu_at_work: Why, they need to get the torrent to start using BitTorrent to begin with.
[05:25] <alankila> and logically, we should make a torrent client that is actually just a webpage
[05:25] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, your understanding of the issues involved is weak :p
[05:26] <opticon> indeed
[05:26] <cwillu_at_work> I talked a friend of mine through getting onto facebook from a fricking prison complex
[05:26] <Guest53746> hey all
[05:26] <cwillu_at_work> (she's an employee, and the administration "locks" such things down)
[05:27] <mOOey> trivial
[05:27]  * alankila has considered writing a javascript decoder for some video format... h.264 could be great to have, but no idea how hard the decoder is, and whether having a javascript file on server counts as distributing a decoder.
[05:27] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, consider that even dns requests can be used to tunnel information
[05:27] <Real_Christmas> Jamed: I want to allow common Internet use like chat, flash-movie watching, common web sites, mail, but not file sharing becuase it will be to much traffic I think and also it may be illegal.
[05:27] <mordof> Real_Christmas: good luck
[05:27] <mOOey> movie watching isn't bandwidth intensive then?
[05:27] <mOOey> heh
[05:28] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, mail, flash movies, web sites, they can (and often do) also allow illegal transfers
[05:28] <Jeruvy> Real_Christmas: use gufw to filter all the ports except what you explicitly allow then.  Done.
[05:28] <shubbar> how can i use command line to batch process files in an input-file output-file?
[05:28] <r3dux> Hahaha - sorry, a javascript h.264 encoder? It could be done, but it would be dreadful, and you would need a book the size of War and Peace to understand the protocol. h.264 encoding is not trivial.
[05:28] <mordof> Jeruvy: won't solve it entirely
[05:28] <nathan__> anyone know if it's possible for network manager to call a script before it takes down a device?  I want it to umount some nfs shares before it takes down the interface.
[05:28] <alankila> r3dux: it'sa crazy idea, but I occasionally get them
[05:28] <Billiard> shubbar: what exactly do you want to do?
[05:29] <Jeruvy> mordof: Possibly yes, but what alternative is there?
[05:29] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, you're set in your ways, so nothing I can say will convince you otherwise
[05:29] <cwillu_at_work> Real_Christmas, but consider, two hours ago you didn't know how to secure a machine for ssh access
[05:29] <r3dux> alankila, if you ever go for it, I'll help. You buy the book, tho :)
[05:29] <Real_Christmas> KB1JWQ: Well, I will try to let ordinary people pay for the service. It's a way to block bad internet use by passing their traffic through my servers.
[05:29] <alankila> r3dux: I'm kind of hoping there would exist some C library that does it, and a line-by-line conversion of that would do the trick.
[05:30] <r3dux> Wouldn't that be delightful? :)
[05:30] <Ozzah> Hi, I have a HDD (/dev/sda) with a bad sector on it, and my RAID card isn't picking it up. I want to do a full wipe of the entire drive, mbr, partition tables, everything. How do I do this in Ubuntu? Thanks :)
[05:30] <mordof> Real_Christmas: put a disclaimer on your usage and make them sign a waiver saying you're not responsible for the content viewed/downloaded
[05:30] <KB1JWQ> Real_Christmas: You're a service provider?!
[05:30] <shubbar> Billiard, i am using mencoder to conver an mkv file to avi. i want to modify the command to convert all the mkv file in a directory
[05:30] <mordof> Real_Christmas: or rather, that they're responsible
[05:30] <Pelo> Ozzah, start gparted and make a new partition table
[05:31] <Jamed> Real_Christmas: you should take a look at squid, it can stop traffic of certain protocols. i am unaware about the specifics though
[05:31] <Guest53746> if it helps among other things Vuze can play mkv's along with vlc i think
[05:31] <Real_Christmas> KB1JWQ: No, not a service provider, but I'm planning to be like a filtering ISP, using proxy servers to filter their traffic from unwanted material.
[05:31] <shubbar> Billiard, wildcards work with input, but i don't know what to use for output
[05:31] <alankila> r3dux: my sole motivation here is that there was a lot of whining about what should be part of HTML5, so it's logical that you just write javascript decoders and forget about what is inside the browser and what not. Given how fast javascript is these days, you could probably decode some of the codecs already.
[05:31] <r3dux> Speaking of Squid, Ubuntu 9.10 runs it automatically by default. WHY? I don't need a proxy server by default, who does?
[05:32] <r3dux> Stopped that happening.
[05:32] <Ozzah> Pelo: That will put a partition table on the drive - how can I wipe the whole drive so that it's blank afterwards, i.e. no partition table, no MBR
[05:32] <Billiard> shubbar: something like 'for each vid in *.mkv; do mencoder "$vid" options "$vid.avi"; done'
[05:32] <Guest53746> @Ozzah use gparted it will do that
[05:32] <Billiard> shubbar: sorry no each
[05:32] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, squid isn't installed by default
[05:33] <Pelo> Real_Christmas, you might want to look into a ubuntu derivative that used to be called ubuntu christian edition,  I think they changed the name however, it was loaded with everyting you can think of in terms of parental control over internet stuff and such,  you would probably find something in there that would allow you to restrict access the way you want
[05:33] <Guest53746> @Ozzah Pm me i can tell you, here is busy with net stuff atm
[05:33] <mordof> alankila: true.  though that depends on how you write them. there are a lot of optimized methods that get changed over to faster code backend with js.
[05:33] <Real_Christmas> I know I have too little knowledge of this today, but it's just a plan. I am not going to start this tomorrow. I have to learn a lot more but it's interesting having an idea.
[05:33] <nathan__> You can also use find with -exec to execute commands based on file names that find finds.
[05:33] <Pelo> Ozzah, putting a new partition table on the drive will , to all intents and purposes,  whipe your hdd clean
[05:33] <shubbar> Billiard, vid here is a dummy argument ?
[05:33] <r3dux> Billiard, I did some shell coding that does interesting stuff here: http://r3dux.org/?p=439
[05:33] <r3dux> cwillu - well I didn't install it, and it was running...
[05:34] <mOOey> Ozzah: a big magnet
[05:34] <camelopard_s6> Hey folks. I am seeking info on enabling Shift Ctrl Backspace in Ubuntu 9.04. Could anyone help? I am trying to install Ion.
[05:34] <Billiard> shubbar: what do you mean dummy argument?
[05:34] <mOOey> Pelo: not true
[05:34] <r3dux> camel : sudo apt-get install dontzap
[05:35] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, dontzap depends on squid
[05:35] <r3dux> ?
[05:35] <cwillu_at_work> oops, wrong zap
[05:35] <cwillu_at_work> was just browsing the list of dependencies and saw a zap at the same time you said that :p
[05:35] <KB1JWQ> !zap
[05:36] <cwillu_at_work> that said, there's nothing that would cause it to get pulled in that I can see, it's probably a dependency of something you installed
[05:36] <mOOey> Ozzah: go get this
[05:36] <Real_Christmas> Backtrack may be nice to control traffic instead of Ubuntu Christian Edition?
[05:36] <mOOey> Ozzah: http://www.dban.org/
[05:36] <mordof> karmic notification bubble.. it's y offset is like 150xp from the top, anyone know how to reposition it to where it should be - at the top right of the screen?
[05:36] <shubbar> Billiard, i mean it will be replaced with the name of the file in each run
[05:36] <camelopard_s6> r3dux thanks, reading re: that.
[05:36] <r3dux> cwillu_at_work, that's pretty odd - but perfectly plausible. I really, REALLY didn't install it, but had to disable it.
[05:36] <jtaji> !dontzap | camelopard_s6
[05:36] <mOOey> backtrack requires you have a working knowledge of the apps they provide for you in their distro
[05:36] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, apt-get remove squid, it'll tell you what depended on it
[05:37] <camelopard_s6> :)
[05:37] <r3dux> Surly it'll also remove it
[05:37] <sin> :)
[05:37] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, but suffice to say I have a dozen machines in front of me running karmic, that don't have squid installed :p
[05:37] <shubbar> Billiard, i will try this on a different command, since mencoder takes a long time in each run
[05:37] <pepperjack> is there a way to mark a internet radio stream as a 'favorite' or something in rythmbox?
[05:37] <Billiard> shubbar: yes
[05:37] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, only if you hit yes :p
[05:37] <r3dux> haha
[05:37] <Billiard> shubbar: replace mencoder with echo
[05:37] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, zope?
[05:37] <mordof> r3dux: just installed 9.10, squid is not installed
[05:37] <camelopard_s6> Christian Edition should include the /cross script which does echo cross
[05:38] <r3dux> mordof - where the hell did that come from then!?! =D
[05:38] <mOOey> ohboy ;-)
[05:38] <mordof> no idea, lol
[05:38] <r3dux> lol
[05:38]  * Guest1287 .
[05:38] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, you seem to want to be in a state of amazement, because you can find out how it got installed quite easily ;p
[05:38] <Jamed> camelopard_s6: that sounds like a very useful feature :D
[05:38] <mordof> grrr
[05:38] <camelopard_s6> Maybe with some ANSI and chrome
[05:38] <mordof> my notification bubble is starting to annoy me
[05:39] <r3dux> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[05:39] <r3dux> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:39] <r3dux> I'll find and kill it later.
[05:39] <mordof> cwillu_at_work: :o how?
[05:39] <cwillu_at_work> mordof, it's where its supposed to be;  critical messages go in that reserved spot, so that messages don't have to be juggled around while being displayed, while also preventing them from getting crowded out by more important messages
[05:39] <camelopard_s6> Jamed, my Ubuntu is already Christian, with a help of some water
[05:39] <r3dux> I just think it's amusing I ended up with squid installed when I didn't ask for it at any point ever.
[05:39] <cwillu_at_work> mordof, that said, it might get fixed at some point :p
[05:40] <mordof> cwillu_at_work: so i can't ever have regular notifications at the top of my screen anymore? it worked fine in 9.04...
[05:40] <mordof> i upgraded, and now it's permanently offset down ... in the way.. *cries*
[05:40] <Ozzah> Ok I found the answer. All I needed to type was: sudo wipe /dev/sda
[05:40] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, get over yourself.  You also never asked to have libgtk2.0-0 to be installed, and yet there it is, installed! :p
[05:40] <cwillu_at_work> mordof, file a bug
[05:40] <mOOey> Ozzah: how thoroughly does that partition need to be cleaned?
[05:40] <om26er> mordof, you can use default gnome notifications by removing notify-osd
[05:41] <teleri> errrrrrragg
[05:41] <teleri> oops, sorry
[05:41] <r3dux> cwillu - okay, but surely libgtk is to do with windows, while squid is a http proxy server.
[05:41] <mordof> i think it already is using default gnome notifications
[05:41] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, and you installed something that felt it needed a proxy server.  There is no mystery here :p
[05:41] <mordof> they don't look anything like the fancy transparent screenshots i've seen of notify-osd, lol
[05:42] <Ozzah> mOOey: it doesn't need to be secure - I just want the drive in a "factory state" so that my dumbass RAID card will think it's empty
[05:42] <r3dux> lol - okay, okay! I installed something that felt it needed a proxy server!
[05:42] <mOOey> ah k
[05:42] <om26er> mordof, for that desktop effects need to be started
[05:42] <mordof> ah
[05:42] <Ozzah> mOOey: otherwise it thinks it doesn't have enough space to rebuild the array
[05:42] <shubbar> Billiard, it just gives me ">" and i press ctrl-c to exit
[05:42] <mOOey> understood - I thought you needed a secure wipe
[05:42] <r3dux> cwillu, say "What" again. I dare you. I double-dare you.
[05:42] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, What?
[05:42] <r3dux> lol
[05:42] <om26er> !ot
[05:43] <mOOey> sheesh
[05:43] <cwillu_at_work> r3dux, seriously.  zgrep squid /var/log/dpkg*, check the dependencies in synaptic or aptitude or apt or whatever
[05:43] <Billiard> shubbar: what did you try?
[05:44] <mordof> om26er: right.. just turned on the regular desktop effects, and it looks fancy now, lol
[05:45] <shubbar> Billiard, sorry, it worked. i forgot ";done" on the first try
[05:45] <r3dux> cwillu - I think it was when I installed GADMIN-TOOLS to admin a FTP server.
[05:46] <r3dux> You're right, I'm wrong - good on ya.
[05:46] <r3dux> squid does NOT get installed by default.
[05:46] <osast> vi /etc/vsftpd.conf # ftp admining
[05:46] <grkblood13> whats a good prog to convert mkv to dvd
[05:46] <Roasted> hey guys - I have a disk that dual boots XP and Kubuntu, and I fired up my Ubuntu LiveCD to use GParted because I want to maximize my XP partition to use up the remaining 75gb unallocated space at the end of the disk. But I CANNOT get GParted to play nice. Is there anything special I should know when maximizing HDD space?
[05:47] <shubbar> Billiard, the "$name" has the name and extension
[05:47] <lightsped> hello everyone.  got a total newb question.  What do I need to do to play a DVD?
[05:47] <MenZa> grkblood13: Handbrake normally plays nice with video conversion.
[05:47] <MenZa> !dvd | lightsped
[05:47] <shubbar> Billiard, thanks
[05:47] <Pelo> cwillu_at_work, I figured out why I had no sound , because I 'M an idiot,  I was suppose to adduser to audio,  not to sound
[05:47] <Billiard> shubbar: yes it does in the example i gave
[05:47] <MenZa> lightsped: First link should tell you what you want. :)
[05:47] <lightsped> thanks!
[05:47] <grkblood13> handbrake takes forever
[05:47] <Programmador> vlc works for most things
[05:47] <Billiard> shubbar: that can be removed with something like ${name%.*}.avi
[05:47] <KB1JWQ> grkblood13: No, data conversion takes forever. :-)
[05:47] <Programmador> dvd im sure is in there
[05:48] <MenZa> Programmador: It's all a matter of installing codecs, and Totem will do it nicely.
[05:48] <phearret> transmageddon transcoder might do it
[05:49] <osast> Roasted, where is the windows partition on the disk?
[05:49] <Roasted> osast - at the front.
[05:49] <Programmador> @Menza that works too
[05:50] <Roasted> osast - 60gb NTFS, 1gb SWAP, 15gb EXT4 Kubuntu. Then I have 75gb unallocated. I want to combine the existing 60gb NTFS with the 75gb unallocated, pushing swap/ext4 back.
[05:50] <nithin> guys, merry christmas
[05:50] <mOOey> mOOey christmas!
[05:51] <mobi-sheep> merry christmas, douchbags. :)
[05:51] <KB1JWQ> mobi-sheep: Please keep it civil.
[05:51] <nithin> on my ubuntu carmic, when i tried to install realvnc i got his error of missing lib - libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:51] <nithin> where do i get this?
[05:52] <phearret> there is also mkvmerge .. haven't ran it .. but looks like it can change the output
[05:52] <phearret> and that is an ubun tu pkg
[05:53] <nithin> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 where do i get this???
[05:53] <Tiders> How can I get my Wacom Bamboo Tablet to work iwth Ubuntu 9.04
[05:54] <jtaji> nithin: why not use a vnc viewer that's already in Ubuntu's repositories, in fact you should already have Apps > Internet > Remote Desktop Viewer installed by default
[05:54] <osast> Roasted, well, not doable if you're using simple partitions, if you're using some kind of windows LVM then it might be
[05:54] <pepperjack> nithin: you could add the lib or cheat and use a symlink to a more current one (not that i recommend that) but i normally just use tightvnc
[05:55] <jtaji> nithin: yeah another good option is xtightvncviewer
[05:55] <Roasted> osast - no kidding? Wow. I could have sworn I did it before...
[05:55] <nithin> jtaji: i have to connect my pc tru my droid phone, i ned realvnc or tightvnc servers listening... tightvnc, after installation show the same runtime error
[05:56] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: I don't know if GParted can allocate NTFS safely without facing problematic issues. Anyway, GParted is a bit tricky or silly, depends on how you see it. To move stuffs around, you work by dragging arrows (stretch or slim).
[05:56] <nithin> pepperjack: i have to connect my pc tru my droid phone, i ned realvnc or tightvnc servers listening... tightvnc, after installation show the same runtime error
[05:56] <jtaji> nithin: ah you need a server... I'd probably try to figure out the error with tightvnc server
[05:57] <dto> has anyone here had success with Wacom Bamboo tablets on Ubuntu?
[05:57] <osast> Roasted, you could move all the partitions around, but that's scary
[05:57] <nithin> jtaji: tightvnc is in repo
[05:57] <jtaji> nithin: it is
[05:57] <Roasted> osast - I could also use clonezilla to back up each partition individually, format the drive, and push each partition and resize it accordingly back to the disk one at a time.
[05:57] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: Best to keep the "queue" list low. People often make few adjustments before the final decisions, and as a result of this, it'll take time... to move around, then repeatedly move around more.
[05:58] <nithin> jtaji: could u reproduce the issue there?
[05:58] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - time doesnt matter. I know... KNOW... I did this with vista before using a linux live CD. I remember it taking forever to do as well.
[05:58] <Roasted> Just a bummer :(
[05:59] <jtaji> nithin: I'm not really set up for that right now, sorry
[05:59] <nithin> jtaji: oops! anyways thanks
[05:59] <nithin> hello can anybody help me with missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 problem
[05:59] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: I use 20GB HDD. No need to worry about stuffs. Got other HDD for important/personal stuffs.  Seems to do me well.
[06:00] <nithin> nithin
[06:00] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - its not my computer though. You see, I built 2 rigs for my brothers for christmas. They use XP Pro. I decided to dual boot their systems with kubuntu as well so they had linux there to play with if they wanted.
[06:01] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - the thing is, one hdd is bad, so I had to use a spare... so Im using a 160gb drive for 1, and an 80gb drive for another. I figured i could just clonezilla the 80gb drive to the new replacement 160 when it comes in, but its proving to be impossible.
[06:01] <phearret> for the missing lib issue ... did you try running the apt-get from shell ?
[06:01] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - I know my bros will use XP Pro prodominantly, so I wanted their N TFS partition to be as big as possible. Besides, Linux can read/write NTFS so it worked out if they want to use their NTFS partition for music, pictures, etc.
[06:01] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: Have you see !backup yet?
[06:02] <Roasted> no?
[06:02] <mobi-sheep> !backup | Roasted :)
[06:03] <Jamed> 06:47:14 <          ubottu > lightsped: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information:
[06:03] <Jamed> oops sorry
[06:03] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - Im sorry, maybe Im missing the point. what are you suggesting I do with data backups??
[06:03] <mOOey> clone the 80 gig to the 160 gig
[06:03]  * om26er thinks its silent out here
[06:03] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: Nothing. Just that you make a backup fast. If the bad HDD is still connected and is powered on, you're killing it slowly.
[06:04] <Jamed> i wonder what happend there, i just middle clicked
[06:04] <Lul> Anyone know of an alternative to this piece of shit for accelerating streaming videos (YouTube, etc)? http://www.videoaccelerator.com/
[06:04] <om26er> !language | Lul
[06:04] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - the hard drive already died. Its not in use. Thats why Im using an 80gb drive (spare from my shelf) till the RMA comes in for the problematic 160.
[06:04] <Lul> :x
[06:04] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - but like I siad, I wanted to take the 80gb contents, clone it to the 160, and dump it on that drive accordingly. But its useless to do that with 75gb unallocated.....
[06:05] <om26er> Lul: linux wifi drivers never wanted a video accelerator for me
[06:05] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - I guess Ill have to back up each partition individually, then drop the NTFS on the drive, expand it (leaving 16gb unallocated) and then dump the 1gb swap partition and 15gb EXT4 partition back individually.
[06:05] <Lul> What's linux?
[06:05] <om26er> Lul: well well
[06:05] <om26er> !linux | Lul
[06:05] <programmulka> GNU'em all
[06:06] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: I never really had to do backups, but if mOOey know what to do, then take his advice. I like dd or ddrescue. (I never experiment with clonezilla).  It copy bytes for bytes. I'm sure you can Gparted it after you copied it.
[06:07] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - clonezilla uses dd as well, it just gives me the option to back up the entire disc, or back up individual partitions
[06:07] <taygalove> !lynx | taygalove
[06:07] <Roasted> mobi-sheep - clonezilla livecd is VERY nice...
[06:07] <mOOey> I know I'd just boot to xp and use partition magic ;-)
[06:07] <mOOey> done
[06:07] <phearret_> lol
[06:07] <mOOey> hehe
[06:07] <tyler_> WHATS UP
[06:08] <om26er> !lucid | taygalove
[06:08] <tyler_> UBUNTUS AWESOME IM ON IT NOW
[06:08] <om26er> great
[06:08] <KB1JWQ> tyler_: Cool it with the caps please. :-)
[06:08] <mOOey> alright tyler_...but we can see you just fine without the caps
[06:08] <tyler_> o sorry
[06:08] <mOOey> ;-)
[06:09] <chu_> merry christmas all
[06:09] <tyler_> i got your ip
[06:09] <taygalove> mOOey lambdamoo
[06:09] <cristian> Hi world
[06:09] <mobi-sheep> Roasted: I'll have to try Clonezilla sometimes then. :)
[06:10] <siddu> hi
[06:10] <slawcio> hello
[06:10] <tyler_> christian are you from Peru
[06:10] <cristian> yes tyler
[06:10] <cristian> where are you from??
[06:10] <om26er> !ot | cristian tyler_
[06:10] <tyler_> alabama
[06:11] <msmarc> does anyone know how to make a power pc mac hibernate?
[06:12] <tyler_> screw macs
[06:12] <Billiard> msmarc: do you have a swap file larger than your amount of ram?
[06:12] <slawcio> i have question (kubuntu - kde), how to set kmplayer (or how to set in kde) one instance opening programs.. i don't want have 10 runned players but only one. like winamp :)
[06:12] <Billiard> msmarc: sorry, swap partition
[06:12] <taygalove> tyler_ defrag and part resize  macs
[06:12] <bazhang> tyler_, that is unnecessary and not helpful
[06:12] <taygalove> install gnu.mac
[06:12] <tyler_> oo
[06:12] <bazhang> tyler_, did you have a support question? chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[06:13] <om26er> !btrfs
[06:13] <mobi-sheep> slawcio: Check kmplayer's preferences. If the option does not exist, try other media players.
[06:13] <slawcio> i checked preferences
[06:13] <slawcio> i want kmplayer ;)
[06:13] <tyler_> i hate windows vista im glad i made the switch to ubuntu
[06:13] <bradpitt> good afternoon, does anybody know what causing input volume cannot be increase? i'm on UNR karmic, eee pc 1000he. thanks
[06:14] <slawcio> mobi-sheep: imo this options it's somewhere in window manager
[06:14] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, where does the source file for an application stored?
[06:14] <chipgeri> to cut a video song from a movie which tool is recommended ?
[06:14] <KB1JWQ> isolat3dsh33p: In most cases you won't have the source installed.
[06:15] <lstarnes> isolat3dsh33p: it depends on how you got it
[06:15] <T--Woody> in src
[06:15] <isolat3dsh33p> KB1JWQ, lstarnes it's a tcl program...
[06:15] <lstarnes> isolat3dsh33p: check dpkg -l packagename
[06:16] <phearret_> -- > m00ey .. got a question
[06:16] <phearret_> my question has to do with the desktop managers, how do you create themes? I can't find enough info on how to..
[06:16] <phearret_> msmarc .. i think it would depend on if the sleep function is enabled / recognized first.
[06:17] <isolat3dsh33p> lstarnes: i'm not sure how to look at the result... but, tcl programs should have the scripts on the harddisk right?
[06:18] <lstarnes> isolat3dsh33p: yes
[06:18] <lstarnes> isolat3dsh33p: the output of that command lists all files contained within the specified package
[06:18] <mOOey> phearret_: you mean like gnomenu themes?
[06:18] <lstarnes> isolat3dsh33p: assuming that that is an installed packag
[06:18] <lstarnes> *package
[06:19] <phearret_> yup as in to "make" one of my own
[06:19] <mOOey> phearret_: google gomenu ubuntu
[06:19] <holmser> this is killing me... my brand new DVD burner keeps making coasters on every disc that I try and burn
[06:19] <mOOey> there's a ton of howto and themes for gomenu
[06:19] <om26er> !google | mOOey
[06:19] <rgr> Results for | mOOey on Google:
[06:19] <rgr> --
[06:19] <bazhang> rgr, ??
[06:19] <holmser> anyone know what this means?  WRITE@LBA=e0h failed with SK=5h/INVALID ADDRESS FOR WRITE]: Invalid argument
[06:19] <chu_> I wish it was possible to remove the logo from the menu-bar panel applet :(
[06:20] <holmser> or why it would happen when I try and burn a disc using growisofs?
[06:20] <isolat3dsh33p> lstarnes: dpkg -l didn't list anything besides the package name.. :/
[06:20] <holmser> or brasero or k3b for that matter
[06:20] <lstarnes> isolat3dsh33p: oh, oops.  that should be -L, not -l
[06:20] <mOOey> holmser: is your dvd mounted?
[06:21] <phearret_> m00ey: ok thnx that should get me on the right path.
[06:21] <isolat3dsh33p> lstarnes: =_=
[06:21] <szteto_> Hi, Quick question: is it possible to make some users own a folder, but not others?
[06:21] <jtaji> om26er: it can be helpful however to give people specific search terms to search for
[06:21] <mOOey> there's a lot out there for it phearret_
[06:21] <lstarnes> !acl | szteto_
[06:21] <holmser> does ubuntu automatically mount blank media?
[06:21] <bazhang> !google | linux
[06:21] <rgr> Results for | linux on Google:
[06:21] <rgr> --
[06:21] <isolat3dsh33p> lstarnes: got it, thanks dude. ;)
[06:22] <mOOey> ordinarily it does if it sees the drive in the first place holmser
[06:22] <phearret_> holmser: whats the disc type +R / -R ?? I can only use one version in Karmic.
[06:22] <holmser> +r
[06:22] <bradpitt> good afternoon, does anybody know what causing input volume cannot be increase? i try to make a video call with skype and my friend can't hear my voice if the input volume is default. i'm on unr karmic, eee pc 1000he. thanks
[06:22] <trevor> has anyone gotten adobe air to work on ubuntu 64 bit without totally sucking??
[06:23] <om26er> bradpitt: type gstreamer-properties and change the inpt device to alsa
[06:23] <holmser> I was having no trouble burning verbatim DVD +R DL discs... then all of the sudden I got a "tracking servo" failure on a dynex disc, and now I can't burn anything
[06:23] <holmser> this drive had better not be toast
[06:23] <holmser> I just bought the damn thing
[06:23] <freeksh0w86> is iPod nano 8g (4th gen) confirmed to work in Ubuntu 9.10 i can't get the songs to show up even though rhythmbox lists them?
[06:24] <om26er> !ipod
[06:24] <lstarnes> Sinister: http://www.beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1038-ubuntu-804-access-control-lists might be a useful article
[06:24] <lstarnes> Sinister: oops, that was intended for someone else. sorry!
[06:24] <holmser> actually... the discs I'm trying to burn now are DVD -R's
[06:24] <lstarnes> szteto_: http://www.beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1038-ubuntu-804-access-control-lists might be a useful article
[06:24] <holmser> lemme throw in a + Rreally quickly
[06:25] <nevets04> How do you use the find command?
[06:25] <bradpitt> om26er, ok. i let you know if it works
[06:25] <tengenso> I've got a rar file here. how do i unpack, it says not supported. Any solution.
[06:25] <Error> How can I fix the '(EE) Error parsing config file' error?
[06:25] <lstarnes> nevets04: have you checked its man page?
[06:25] <lstarnes> Error: what gives you that error?
[06:25] <nevets04> Whats that?
[06:25] <om26er> bradpitt: this worked for 3people i know
[06:25] <mOOey> holmser: when plextor came out with their first 4X CDR comsumer drive I bought one thinking, "hey, for $425 this thing ought to really work great". This was back in 1997...After going through a 100 cdr spindle (back then they were expensive!), I decided that the drive was defective, and sure enough it was, right out of the box...it happens
[06:25] <nevets04> lstarnes, its like find / -f
[06:26] <nevets04> no?
[06:26] <lstarnes> nevets04: type this in a terminal: man find
[06:26] <Error> it happens when I boot the computer, it immediately puts me into low graphics mode and displays that error
[06:26] <lstarnes> nevets04: to exit the man page browser, press q
[06:26] <legend2440> tengenso: is package   rar installed?
[06:26] <holmser> worst thing is, I finally had to replace my workhorse LG DVD burner that finally went dead after probably 2000+ successful DVD burns
[06:27] <Kengine> what are these values 0x41 and 0x7F
[06:27] <holmser> got another LG, and now it fails in the first month?  weak
[06:27] <tengenso> legend2440, no, should i install from apt-get. but i dont know the command
[06:27] <lstarnes> Error: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:27] <legend2440> tengenso: sudo apt-get install rar
[06:27] <Error> right, what part would be creating that error?
[06:27] <om26er> unrar ?
[06:27] <lstarnes> Error: any part might be causing it
[06:28] <lstarnes> Error: pastebin the file to http://paste.ubuntu.com and give us the resulting the link
[06:28] <mOOey> doesn't he have to have access to the right repositories for rar?
[06:28] <lstarnes> Error: it will allow us to help you fix that error
[06:28] <gp__> hello guys ...pl help me after ...upgrade Karmic koala is not able to detect correct resolution
[06:28] <gp__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346292/
[06:28] <legend2440> tengenso: also install unrar    sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:28] <gp__> pl in name of holy mary help me
[06:28] <bradpitt> om26er, thanks man she can hear my voice now ;)
[06:28] <bazhang> gp__, patience
[06:29] <gp__> lalalalala
[06:29] <Error> ok i pasted it there
[06:29] <tengenso> legend2440, om26er thanks
[06:30] <lstarnes> Error: can you give me the link?
[06:30] <Error> http://paste.ubuntu.com/346294/
[06:30] <om26er> tengenso: :)
[06:30] <lstarnes> Error: can you see any other errors before that one?
[06:31] <Error> it cant process it, but that's it
[06:32] <Error> i can reboot again but the only error that has shown up so far deals with "parsing the config file"
[06:33] <lstarnes> Error: I'll see if I can reproduce the error
[06:33] <Error> ok
[06:34] <IrcSystemError> pl in name of holy mary help me
[06:35] <lstarnes> IrcSystemError: you must be patient
[06:35] <gaelfx> so here's a kinda stupid, slightly off-topic question: When you buy a cpu, does it usually ship with a fan, or do you need to buy that separately?
[06:35] <IrcSystemError> lal lalal la la llalalalala lalalala
[06:35] <bazhang> IrcSystemError, please stop that
[06:35] <lstarnes> IrcSystemError: I have looked at your paste, if that makes you feel any better
[06:35] <legend2440> gaelfx: i bought mine seperately
[06:35] <lstarnes> IrcSystemError: but I cannot identify the cause of the problem
[06:36] <bazhang> gaelfx, please check in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <alankila> gaelfx: "boxed" mean with a fan.
[06:36] <pepperjack> gaelfx: a retail processor will an 'oem' wont
[06:36] <pepperjack> gaelfx: check of newegg for example
[06:38] <pepperjack> of/out.  the amd procs have pretty crappy heatsinks and fans these days but they still run cool. unless your overclocking alot you should be ok with the retail heatsink/fan
[06:38] <d4a65a> i want to set eth0 to speed=10 and duplex=half
[06:39] <lstarnes> Error: I think I almost figured it out
[06:39] <Error> yay
[06:39] <raymond> Hi everyone, is there someone that can help me connect to my home network. I've just replaced my XP machines with Ubuntu and I am unable to connect to my hub (Internet works OK as you can see) or my other computer. I get the message "Unable to mount location - failed to retrieve share list from server" I tried to go via Places>Network>networkname>Netgear(Router)
[06:40] <gaelfx> pepperjack: alankila: thanks guys
[06:41] <d4a65a> i want to set eth0 to speed=10 and duplex=half                 i know have to use ethtoool but whats the syntax?
[06:41] <msmarc> asd
[06:41] <osast> man ethtool?
[06:42] <lstarnes> Error: see what you get with http://paste.ubuntu.com/346299/
[06:42] <lstarnes> Error: there were some issues with some identifiers not being renamed properly
[06:42] <lstarnes> Error: also, I indented it to make it more readable
[06:42] <jdahm> Hi, I'm running latex but I notice that the version of latex that is in the repos is really pdflatex, even though the binary is called latex it really points to pdflatex.  What package gives me `latex'?
[06:43] <Kr0ntab> sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex half
[06:43] <Error> whatever is more readable for you works for me, i am fine with block text
[06:43] <d4a65a> ok got it thanks osast and Kr0ntab
[06:43] <osast> jdahm, texlive, is the current distribution of latex
[06:44] <jonrob287> when u use wine the error windows do not show anything why is that?
[06:45] <porter1> Anyone know how to stop the perpetual crashing of sync and mount.ntfs when an external drive is plugged in? It never mounts correctly, and I can't kill mount.ntfs because it sleep in an uninterruptible state.
[06:47] <jonrob287> when u use wine the error windows do not show anything why is that?
[06:47] <lstarnes> jonrob287: are you using visual effects?
[06:48] <jonrob287> yes i think i am
[06:48] <lstarnes> jonrob287: try using wine with visual effects disabled
[06:49] <jonrob287> nope nothing
[06:50] <ZanQdo> hum new ubuntu's software center is curious
[06:51] <slawcio> i have question (kubuntu - kde), how to set kmplayer (or how to set in kde) one instance opening kmaplyer's.. i don't want have 10 runned players but only one. like winamp :)
[06:51] <sebsebseb> ZanQdo: What do you mean by htat?
[06:51] <sebsebseb> that
[06:51] <sebsebseb> slawcio: try #kubuntu for KDE
[06:51] <sebsebseb> :)
[06:52] <Error> I am still getting the parsing errors "(EE) Error Parsing config file". Is there something else other than the xorg.conf file that would be causing this?
[06:52] <lstarnes> Error: what xorg.conf are you using now?
[06:53] <Error> the one you posted
[06:53] <lstarnes> Error: it worked when I tried it
[06:53] <Error> hmm
[06:53] <raymond> How can I fix a "failed to retrieve share list from server" error when attempting to connect to my network?
[06:54] <Error> alright, i will try to figure it out. thanks for the help
[06:54] <pepperjack> raymond: how are you attempting to connect?  you mean to a windows share or something?
[06:56] <raymond> Hi Pepperjack, I went places>network>mynet>netgear (Or even the other computer on the network) - i'm connecting via a netgear router/modem
[06:57] <pepperjack> ls
[06:57] <ian_> Something has caused my windows to appear fuzzy, they don't look as clear.  I've tried adjusting the resolution, but it didn't make any difference.
[06:58] <raymond> ls?
[07:00] <pepperjack> raymond: sorry didnt intend to type that ;)
[07:01] <raymond> That's OK, I typed it into a terminal window in case you needed the data it produced :)
[07:02] <ZanQdo> so I selected the karmic repos and now its updating cache at %94 for half an hour now
[07:02] <ZanQdo> how much can it take?
[07:02] <pepperjack> raymond: have you seen this link yet?  it gives some good steps for sorting out samba problems like your seeing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
[07:04] <raymond> no, but I'll look now..
[07:04] <pepperjack> raymond: youre sure you dont have any kind of firewall issue?  try from command line in ubuntu: telnet remotemachine 139 just to see if that port is even accessable on the computer that should have the share
[07:07] <raymond> That failed as well with the same error.
[07:07] <KB1JWQ> raymond: Firewall issue.
[07:07] <KB1JWQ> Or the service isn't listening.
[07:08] <ZanQdo> damn
[07:08] <ZanQdo> ubuntu software center works at all?
[07:08] <root_> pleas I have problem and need help with backtrack 4 pleas
[07:08] <raymond> I've changed the workgroup name as per the link you sent, and I still get the same error.. I can log into the modem/router via 10.1.1.1, but not via network
[07:09] <M1TE5H> how can install package from local folder I have almost packages in ~/Document/packages and I want to install those when I run apt-get install package
[07:10] <root_> pleas i need help with backtrack
[07:10] <Linux4Family> ! vlc
[07:10] <root_> any one can help
[07:10] <sebsebseb> !backtrack | root_
[07:10] <raymond> Zan, that works fine, net connection, updates, etc. Just not logging into my other PC that I have on the network... I am using a wireless connection on the Ubuntu systema nd a wired one for the PC
[07:10] <om26er> M1TE5H: in that folder from terminal sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[07:10] <sebsebseb> root_: also don't use it as a desktop OS
[07:11] <MattV> Remote Desktop is allowing me to control the mouse and keyboard, but it's not communicating screen updates to the client. Any ideas?
[07:11] <root_> i got message from msfconsole  wile i import data base from VAS    msf > db_import_nessus_nbe last.nbe
[07:11] <root_> [*] Could not read the NBE file
[07:11] <M1TE5H> om26er: I can create repository
[07:11] <mkquist> raymond: having networking probs?
[07:13] <ZanQdo> raymond: its weird, its suck at %94
[07:13] <root_> the problem msfconsole cant read NBE file   why ??
[07:13] <om26er> ZanQdo: you mean stuck na?
[07:13] <raymond> Yes mkquist (BTW, how do you direct the message to me spicifically). I'm migrating my computers to Ubuntu, but have lost network connectivity between them,
[07:13] <mkquist> raymond: I have had some and reinstalling samba seems to fix it...   dont know why, but seems to do it,if its  network sharing that is
[07:14] <raymond> ZanQdo, stuck at %94?
[07:14] <ZanQdo> raymond: "u[dating cache"
[07:14] <ZanQdo> I just added the karmic repo
[07:15] <root_> pleas can any one help
[07:15] <raymond> mkquist, yes. I was able to do everything when I was running XP, but nothing now.
[07:15] <M1TE5H> om26er: ok so after sudo dpkg -I *.deb  I can install vlc from add & remove so it can go for those local folder or internet
[07:15] <mkquist> raymond: give it a go, reinstalling samba
[07:16] <om26er> M1TE5H: i don't understand you make it clear
[07:16] <Er1K> I'm giving my 12yo Autistic son a DV camcorder in the morning and am looking for some Linux video editing software for him.  Core requirements are low learning curve, low system requirements, native handling of mpeg2/mpeg4 files with no "import", "export", or "conversion".  Nice-to-haves would be built-in support for DVD authoring.  PiTiVi and LiVES look like the front-runners ATM.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[07:17] <raymond> It's not installed (via the Ubuntu software Center), maybe this is why it isn't working <sigh>. Which one should I install? When I do a search for Samba I get smb4k, Samba (This one?) and a few others
[07:17] <M1TE5H> om26er: I want to setup my system, when user want to install some package the system 1st check in local folder if packages is find in these folder then install otherwise go for net
[07:17] <mkquist_> raymond: just search for samba an install it
[07:18] <sebsebseb> Er1K: maybe Kino
[07:18] <mkquist_> raymond: should help
[07:18] <raymond> OK, Samba itself.. Doing it now...
[07:18] <om26er> M1TE5H: sorry but i don't know how to do that
[07:18] <mkquist_> raymond: k
[07:18] <mkquist_> raymond: do you know about shares-admin in comman line in the terminal?
[07:18] <mkquist_> command... oops
[07:19] <mkquist_> raymond: comman line that is
[07:19] <LizardK|ng> M1TE5H, only the administrator should be installing packages
[07:19] <mkquist_> raymond: command... =)
[07:19] <M1TE5H> LizardK|ng: I have root privilege
[07:19] <jaki_> medan
[07:20] <LizardK|ng> M1TE5H, so you are an administrator
[07:20] <om26er> M1TE5H: after a clean install of ubuntu update your system and then go to /var/cache/apt/archives and copy every file and paste in the other system you want
[07:20] <M1TE5H> anybody know how 2 Setup my system, when user want to install some package the system 1st check in local folder if packages is find in these folder then install otherwise go for net
[07:20] <LizardK|ng> M1TE5H, but normal users should not be installing anything
[07:20] <Er1K> sebsebseb: IIRC, last time I tried Kino, it required that things be converted to raw DV format before it would think about touching them, and making any sort of mpeg required a trip through export.  Both took forever.  Is that still the case?
[07:21] <om26er> M1TE5H: then sudo apt-get clean on the first system and install vlc for example go to the same dircetory and copy everything and paste in the computer you wanna use
[07:21] <M1TE5H> LizardK|ng:  I told you I have root access so tell me the steps to do
[07:22] <M1TE5H> om26er: yaa bro but in vlc I have copy more than 30 packages from local 2 /var/cache/apt/archive
[07:22] <M1TE5H> om26er:  so I want  avoid it
[07:22] <LizardK|ng> M1TE5H, you on dialup?  just download them
[07:22] <om26er> M1TE5H: vlc is qt so its dependecies are downloaded
[07:22] <sebsebseb> Er1K: I don't know, I don't use it
[07:22] <om26er> M1TE5H: applications like pidgin(gtk+) will download a few files
[07:23] <r3dux> vlc is a great video player.
[07:23] <LizardK|ng> vlc is awesome
[07:23] <M1TE5H> LizardK|ng:  I already have all the package in my documents so why I need to dowanload agains
[07:23] <om26er> M1TE5H: no need
[07:23] <LizardK|ng> M1TE5H, so apt-get can find them
[07:23] <r3dux> vlc is my player of CHOICE.
[07:23] <om26er> M1TE5H: just paste them in the other machone and sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <fjkda> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m43538c34
[07:24]  * om26er thinks vlc is slow when seeking forward as compared to totem
[07:24] <fjkda> Check this out ^^^ I changed with ethtool but still it wont change
[07:24] <M1TE5H> LizardK|ng: brother it does not find so I ask here how to set system to find packages from local
[07:24] <LizardK|ng> M1TE5H, you can spend 5 minutes downloading, or 20 minutes setting up your system so you don;t have to download them
[07:24] <r3dux> It's also great for windows systems which lack codecs, because it can decode stacks of things without codecs installed.
[07:24] <Athar> hm, how do I change the applications certain file types are opened by default? So that text files are no longer opened by gedit, for example.
[07:24] <om26er> M1TE5H: when pasted in /var/cache/apt/archive it does look there
[07:25] <LizardK|ng> r3dux, it;s essential for windows
[07:25] <M1TE5H> anybody know how 2 Setup my system, when user want to install some package the system 1st check in local folder (I have all the packages in ~/Documents/packages) if packages is find in these folder then install otherwise go for net
[07:25] <r3dux> Don't you like gedit, Lizard?
[07:25] <Gentoon> Can someone PM me about my ban in #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[07:26] <om26er> M1TE5H: instead of ~/Documents/packages paste them to /var/cache/apt/archive
[07:26] <Jamed> Gentoon: talk to the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[07:26] <M1TE5H> LizardK|ng: in dowanload I spread 5 minutes for every day n whenever I want to install new packages so bettre to setup system in 20 mins
[07:26] <M1TE5H> om26er: it more than 4 GB Packages
[07:27] <M1TE5H> om26er:  so I am paste in my home dir
[07:27] <Athar> gedit loads large files really slowly.
[07:27] <AussieGuy> is it possible for me (via ssh -D 9999 to set up a socks server forwarding to inside my corporate network) to use VNC to access my desktop computer at work?
[07:27] <r3dux> I code a bit, and I used gedit in linux and notepad++ in windows. I should prob get with Eclipse, but there's no rush.
[07:28] <M1TE5H> om26er: I heared someone setting up repository for doing such kind of things but I don't remember how to
[07:28]  * om26er don't know either
[07:28] <skysong> Athar: how about mousepad?
[07:29] <AussieGuy> r3dux: use vim, cuts down on coding errors & frustration by 90%
[07:29] <r3dux> I had to teach people about backups and repos last month. You should try teaching building surveyors about CVSs. They don't know, and they don't care.
[07:29] <mobi-sheep> M1TE5H: apt-proxy / apt-catcher ?
[07:30] <r3dux> AussieGuy - No, no. No. No.
[07:30] <LizardK|ng> r3dux, i;m fine with gedit
[07:30] <r3dux> Not using vi, not using emacs, not usic vim
[07:30] <M1TE5H> mobi-sheep:apt-proxy / apt-catcher ? what was that please explain
[07:30] <Athar> Is mousepad a text editor?
[07:30] <mobi-sheep> M1TE5H: "anybody know how 2 Setup my system, when user want to install some package the system 1st check in local folder (I have all the packages in ~/Documents/packages) if packages is find in these folder then install otherwise go for net"
[07:30] <M1TE5H> r3dux: hw to build repository
[07:31] <r3dux> M1TE5H, do I look like I'm building a repository?
[07:31] <d4a65a> have posted my prob with eth above
[07:32] <d4a65a> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m43538c34
[07:32] <lazyPower> Merry Christmas all, to those that are celebrating the holiday.
[07:32] <d4a65a> im frustrated as hell on my isp help me quick or i will blast
[07:33] <r3dux> I love linux. I also love Windows 7, because it doesn't fall over as much, so I don't need to fix the wife's PC.
[07:34] <mobi-sheep> AussieGuy: "use vim, cuts down on coding errors & frustration by 90%"  How so?
[07:34] <AussieGuy> well, what ive found is that it gives alot more control
[07:34] <r3dux> The EDITOR had NOTHING to do with the code.
[07:34] <r3dux> It can't cut down on coding errors.
[07:35] <AussieGuy> even copy and paste is more controlled, using a far more accurate keyboard based version
[07:35] <r3dux> It can just be a dick of a text editor.
[07:35] <r3dux> "has"
[07:35]  * mobi-sheep try vim-gtk. :O
[07:36] <AussieGuy> you can delete a line in a few key presess, rather than by hap-hazaordly using your mouse to select all the text, then hit the delete button (which is prone to error)
[07:36] <r3dux> So?
[07:36] <fridim__> Hi. I would like to automatically backup a folder (let's say /home) on an usb disk when I plug that disk. It seems that now in ubuntu, the FS is mounted in /media/UUID-of-the-partition. So  how can I launch a small script (containing rsync command lines) every time the disk is plugged in?
[07:36] <taygalove> jstar and joe
[07:36] <Athar> You can do that in any editor... end, shift+home, backspace
[07:36] <taygalove> Athar Ctrl Y is simpler
[07:37] <Athar> I guess
[07:37] <mobi-sheep> fridim__: Plug in.  Run the command.
[07:38] <fridim__> mobi-sheep, I'm lazy, I don't want to run the command :)
[07:39] <r3dux> fridim__, I'm lazy, I'm not going to look it up for you
[07:39] <AussieGuy> Ather: that deletes the content of the line not the line itself, still an extra keypress to finish it off, the less keypresses the less chance of a typo
[07:39] <lazyPower> fridim__, http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/125123-running-shell-script-device-mount.html
[07:39] <lazyPower> fridim__, google is your best friend
[07:39] <fridim__> r3dux, of course, I just want a keyword to start my search on google
[07:39] <LizardK|ng> AussieGuy, Athar, dd deletes the whole line in vi
[07:40] <mobi-sheep> fridim__: You're lazy to run the command but you're not too lazy to plug in the usb? :o
[07:40] <sandeep_> i m getting rtmpt connection  error
[07:40] <M1TE5H> can I block user for login in tty1 I can able to block root but what for non-root
[07:40] <AussieGuy> LizardKing: correct, I do v end delete
[07:40] <fridim__> mobi-sheep, I'm lazy to do both. The less the better :)
[07:41] <om26er>  can any1 tell me the main reason of ubuntu switching to empathy?
[07:41] <DexterLB> good morning and merry christmas everyone :)
[07:41] <LizardK|ng> all i have to say about editors is that i started nano, and then spent 20 minutes trying to exit it and ended up just killing the terminal
[07:41] <fridim__> maybe the keyword is udev
[07:41] <r3dux> fridm_: Try "cron anacron usb event"
[07:42]  * lazyPower smacks his forhead
[07:42] <lazyPower> theres a link at the bottom of that link i posted that gives pretty much step by step instructions to accomplish what he wants.
[07:42] <lazyPower> i hate helping those that dont even say thanks or take the time to read >.<
[07:43] <danielsan0815> hi i have #8  0x00007f8d1ddb4a0e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 is installing kdebase-dbg the right way to get it?
[07:43] <DexterLB> sometimes grub2 doesn't want to automatically start the kernel after an s2disk, power failiure, and sometimes with no apparent reason. Can it be configured to always boot the first kernel without displaying the menu, or at least to have a timeout?
[07:43] <mobi-sheep> fridim__: I know when you start plugging silly things in, you get that GNOME "You plugged in something, what default action should we take?" thing. You could set it to Other --> And point it to your script.
[07:44] <fridim__> mobi-sheep, never seen such a dialog box. It's simply automounted.
[07:45] <fridim__> lazyPower, the only thing I see in your link is : On recent Linux, you can have a script run when the device is detected. (not when it mounts, but when it is detected) by crafting a udev rule for that device.
[07:46] <fridim__> Well, this already took me too much time, I'll simply plug-in and run the script manually...
[07:46] <lazyPower> fridim__, For FreeBSD see /etc/rc.d/devd and devd.conf and devd
[07:46] <lazyPower> and FreeNAS forum • View topic - USB attach, auto-mount, rsync, detach & umount(auto-backup)]
[07:46] <lazyPower> see the last set of link text there bud
[07:46] <lazyPower> it has step by step instructions
[07:46] <lazyPower> and merry christmas
[07:46] <r3dux> fridim_ > You should should try connecting to my NAS via USB - it says no, and it means no.
[07:47] <danielsan0815> is installing kdebase-dbg the right way if i have 0x00007f8d1ddb4a0e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 in debugging output?
[07:47] <mobi-sheep> fridim__: You were typing -- Working on something unimportant but it is important to you. Your cat walked over the keyboard and deleted the file. But wait, the file isn't in the trash bin too. Darn cat. You plugged in the HDD to recover and the script automatically rsync --delete the file. :(
[07:48] <r3dux> mobi-sheep > Can I borrow your cat? F***ing ETH/USB....
[07:49] <DexterLB> hmmm
[07:50] <r3dux> I hate my Lacie NAS. Only I don't, because it has 5 years worth of photos on it.
[07:50] <r3dux> So I hope it lives.
[07:50] <om26er> !language | r3dux
[07:50] <fridim__> r3dux, true !! (about --delete)
[07:51] <alankila> oh yeah, this radeonhd: every attempt to view a video in totem results in "BadAlloc" X error and it dies. Something to do with XVideo support, or rather lack of support for it
[07:51] <DexterLB> lol i didn't know about that ubottu function :D
[07:51] <r3dux> My apologies. No swearing.
[07:52] <alankila> *sigh* ATI support is the worst
[07:52] <r3dux> You should try connecting to it. It's running unix, and JBODing the drives, NO error correction. You get what you get and don't get upset.
[07:53] <alankila> and trying to use opengl surface on xine gave me a funny blue image indicating that someone is confused about RGBA vs. ABGR.
[07:53] <flexible> hey, just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my acer laptop (new)... 2mins into running, the mouse has frozen...
[07:53] <tolpico> i have installed compiz and metacity. But I cant find metacity dialog box for changing themes,. In 9.04 there used to be a compiz config where we could switch between window manager, from standard one to metacity. Any idea what should I do to get switch to metacity?
[07:53] <flexible> keyboard works fine and i can alt-f2 etc... no mouse
[07:53] <om26er> flexible: fn+F7 twice
[07:54] <raj> hi
[07:54] <om26er> !hi | raj
[07:54] <ogr3> hey guys, happy holidays. I have am trying to install on a desktop wireless-n usb card that may need ndiswrapper anyway to get that package without connecting? I can see wireless networks just no connect. any advice?
[07:54] <raj> i have a querie
[07:54] <raj> need help
[07:54] <flexible> om26er: didn't help
[07:55] <om26er> flexible: notebook's model plz
[07:55] <raj> i am having problem screen resolution
[07:55] <flexible> acer aspire 5542
[07:55] <raj> need help plz
[07:55] <DexterLB> raj: what videocard
[07:55] <om26er> !help | raj
[07:55] <raj> mine is intel video card
[07:56] <DexterLB> raj: what's the problem
[07:56] <M1TE5H> can anybody know how 2 block non-root user on login tty1
[07:56] <zetheroo> when copying a folder or file from a USB external hdd the files and folders are always given root permissions ... this is very annoying! - how do I make this stop happening?
[07:57] <raj> i am getting 800 x600 and 640x840 pixels only for screen resolution but i need 1024x768
[07:57] <DexterLB> M1TE5H: why would you need to do that
[07:57] <raj> i am getting 800 x600 and 640x840 pixels only for screen resolution but i need 1024x768
[07:57] <om26er> flexible: can you plz look at this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Ubuntu
[07:57] <DexterLB> zetheroo: how have you mounted the USB drive
[07:58] <DexterLB> !help | raj
[07:58] <M1TE5H> DexterLB: actually iam block root login in tty1 so need to know 4 non-root user
[07:58] <raj> i am getting 800 x600 and 640x840 pixels only for screen resolution but i need 1024x768
[07:58] <M1TE5H> DexterLB: Just 4 know
[07:58] <zetheroo> DexterLB: normally ... double click the volume and enter in sudo password
[07:58] <raj> i am getting 800 x600 and 640x840 pixels only for screen resolution but i need 1024x768 help plz
[07:58] <DexterLB> raj: stop asking the same question
[07:58] <raj> no one is replying
[07:59] <[diablo]> merry christmas everyone...
[07:59] <flexible> raj: well rephrase it
[07:59] <DexterLB> zetheroo: Why the sudo password? Can't HAL mount it?
[07:59] <mkquist_> raj: well maybe no one on knows right now
[07:59] <[diablo]> guys, does anyone know if the iPhone 3GS now can be synced for music with Ubuntu please?
[07:59] <raj> shit
[07:59] <M1TE5H> DexterLB:can you know
[07:59] <om26er> raj: play with this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166148
[07:59] <Lartza_> HEllo, I am trying to get fglrx work with my integrated graphics card
[07:59] <DexterLB> raj don't repeat the question, i'm thinking on it
[07:59] <Lartza_> The latest ones don't seem to work
[07:59] <zetheroo> DexterLB: since Karmic that is what happens ... I have done nothing to make that happen like that
[07:59] <mkquist_> diablo: no
[08:00] <Lartza_> Catalyst says my card was not found and so does aticonfig.
[08:00] <[diablo]> mkquist, doh, really... mmm I remember someone was working on a stack to support it
[08:00] <DexterLB> zetheroo: have you done a clean install or a net upgrade?
[08:00] <zetheroo> DexterLB: clean install .. 3 machines ... all the same
[08:00] <mkquist_> diablo: not that I've seen so far, and I've been looking
[08:00] <Lartza_> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[08:00] <DexterLB> raj: exactly which intel video card?
[08:00] <[diablo]> mkquist, ok, let me find the article
[08:01] <mkquist_> diablo: love to know myself
[08:01] <DexterLB> zetheroo: well i've got clean install on 2 machines and karmic uses HAL as needed and doesn't ask for sudo password
[08:01] <tolpico> where can I find window manager in ubuntu 9.10 to switch to metacity? Thanks
[08:01] <[diablo]> nod, will try to find this
[08:01] <mkquist_> thanx
[08:01] <DexterLB> zetheroo: did you try different flash disks?
[08:01] <om26er> tolpico: disable desktp effcts
[08:02] <zetheroo> DexterLB: these are not flash disks ... this is internal partitions and external Hard Drives
[08:02] <DexterLB> aaah
[08:02] <tolpico> om26er, ok selected none, then
[08:02] <zetheroo> DexterLB: the internal partitions are Ext4 and the external drive is NTFS
[08:02] <om26er> tolpico: now you window manager is metacity
[08:02] <DexterLB> zetheroo: so is the external drive listed in /etc/fstab?
[08:02] <zetheroo> DexterLB: but the pain is that these volumes are loading with root perms ..
[08:03] <zvacet> tolpico : in terminal  metacity --replace
[08:03] <M1TE5H> how to block non-root user on tty1 login
[08:03] <zetheroo> DexterLB: what if not?
[08:03] <DexterLB> zetheroo: the question is what if YES lol
[08:03] <monkill> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
[08:03] <viiince> hey,did someone install ts3 beta and had sound problems afterwards ? ts ruined my mic
[08:04] <DexterLB> zetheroo: everything in fstab is mounted as root
[08:04] <alankila> ok, solved my problems by migrating to radeon driver. gentoo wiki clued me in by claiming that radeonhd is dead. Since when? Whatever. It works now.
[08:04] <Dereck> viiince: in ubuntu? it's ok under win*
[08:04] <mkquist_> monkill: well merry xmas, but a little quick on the other = P
[08:04] <zetheroo> DexterLB: well I dunnno ... but like I said this has happened on all 3 machines  I have installed Karmix on which have multiple partitions
[08:04] <DexterLB> zetheroo: and NTFS doesn't store linux permissions (does it?) and everything will be as root
[08:04] <viiince> lol why would i join a ubuntu irc whilie running win   lol
[08:05] <raj> shit
[08:05] <raj> need custom screen resolution
[08:05] <[diablo]> mkquist_, well, this is not the article however maybe its worth trying http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ipod-touch-3g-sync-over-usb-without-jailbraking-in-ubuntu-karmic.html
[08:05] <om26er> i installed ubuntu karmic on a dell netbook and emachine in both cases i was offered an open source and a properietry driver and open source driver did not work in either cased and properietry driver worked like a charm
[08:05] <raj> need custom screen resolution
[08:05] <tsimpson> !language | raj
[08:05] <raj> ok
[08:05] <raj> ok
[08:05] <DexterLB> zetheroo: so comment the entries out in fstab and let hal mount it, to see what happens
[08:05] <om26er> raj: i gave you the link follow it
[08:06] <mkquist_> diablo: nice, I'll def look at this one
[08:06] <zetheroo> DexterLB: where is fstab?
[08:06] <raj> its not working
[08:06] <om26er> zetheroo: /etc/fstab
[08:06] <raj> need custom screen resolution
[08:06] <DexterLB> zetheroo: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:06] <mkquist_> diablo: so no ssh? nice
[08:06] <zetheroo> om26er: thanks
[08:06] <om26er> raj: you are gonna get kicked
[08:06] <zetheroo> DexterLB: thanks
[08:06] <zvacet> zetheroo : in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:06] <DexterLB> raj: see this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[08:06] <raj> why
[08:07] <raj> is there any linux expert
[08:07] <zetheroo> DexterLB: do you have any idea also why i cannot create any shortcuts on the internal partition?
[08:07] <om26er> raj: because you are constantly repeating you question
[08:07] <DexterLB> raj: no
[08:07] <DexterLB> raj: such thing as linux expert doesn't exist
[08:07] <raj> need help on screen resolution
[08:07] <om26er> raj: there is a command /part type it  in the irc and see if your resolutions change
[08:07] <DexterLB> raj: linux is wibbly wobbly sourcy linuxy stuff
[08:07] <raj> i am new to linux
[08:08] <raj> so asking help
[08:08] <DexterLB> raj: you need to apply some effort yourself
[08:08] <reactor_> raj, ask
[08:08] <taygalove> raj: Shift Ctrl F1 ... F7 change the resolution of the screen
[08:08] <DexterLB> raj: what is your videocard model
[08:08] <raj> i am dont want to waste time
[08:08] <om26er> raj: ubuntuforums.org
[08:08] <raj> mine is intel 8945 mother board
[08:08] <soreau> raj: Have you tried sys>prefs>Display?
[08:08] <zetheroo> DexterLB: ok ... checked... not in fstab
[08:09] <raj> ya i tried
[08:09] <tolpico> om26er, ok so as you tell, i am in metacity manager, i have some metacity themes, where should i install them? in the default themes dialog?
[08:09] <DexterLB> zetheroo: hmm
[08:09] <taygalove> raj: oh mistake. try Ctrl Alt F1 ... F7
[08:09] <soreau> raj: What are you trying to accomplish?
[08:09] <raj> i am getting only two resolution options
[08:09] <zvacet> raj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[08:09] <tolpico> zvacet, metacity --replace, killed my metacity manger, had to restart
[08:09] <soreau> raj: What graphics card do you have?
[08:09] <DexterLB> taygalove: don't say that
[08:09] <om26er> tolpico: drag and drop on theme tab
[08:09] <mkquist_> raj:maybe something like this - http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-configure-Xorg-in-Ubuntu
[08:09] <DexterLB> taygalove: he'll go to tty1 and won't be able to come back to tty7 lol
[08:10] <DexterLB> sorry
[08:10] <taygalove> DexterLB i said F7
[08:10] <raj> i dont have external graphic card
[08:10] <DexterLB> taygalove and you think he understood what you meant by F7? :D
[08:10] <soreau> raj: Well what is the output of: lspci|grep VGA
[08:11] <taygalove> raj: To return to X, press Ctrl Alt F7. To use the TTY screen, use Ctrl Alt F1 ... F6
[08:11] <raj> nothing i am getting
[08:11] <DexterLB> zetheroo: then who mounts the external drive? Some process must do that. Or do you do it manually?
[08:11] <soreau> taygalove: All of that information is mostly irrelevant in this case
[08:11] <soreau> ! who | raj
[08:12] <raj> i am asking resolution guys
[08:12] <zetheroo> DexterLB: double click the volume and it mounts after I put the sudo pass in
[08:12] <raj> u there
[08:12] <ja660k> hey all, quick question, is there a better emial client than evolution??????
[08:12] <taygalove> raj Is 80x24 a correct resolution?
[08:12] <DexterLB> raj: YES WE UNDERSTOOD THAT
[08:12] <raj> ya
[08:12] <soreau> ! caps | DexterLB
[08:12] <LordXenu> ja660k, thunderbird is good if you don't need exchange support
[08:13] <LordXenu> the one thing I do like in evolution over thunderbird, though, is that it supports regex mail filters
[08:13] <DexterLB> raj: stop repeating it, if you're in a hurry fix it yourself
[08:13] <DexterLB> oops
[08:13] <ja660k> okay, just need good IMAP support and a nicer interface
[08:13] <DexterLB> !language | DexterLB
[08:13] <ja660k> ty =)
[08:13] <raj> ok
[08:13] <taygalove> raj: What kind of resolution do you want: CGA, EGA, VGA, MSX, or O_ther?
[08:13] <raj> vga
[08:13] <taygalove> Sane answer
[08:14] <soreau> raj: We need to know which graphics card you have first. Open a terminal Applications>Accessories>Terminal then type 'lspci||grep VGA' without tick marks then press enter. Paste the output here
[08:14] <tolpico> om26er, thanks
[08:14]  * taygalove away curing his lungs
[08:14] <DexterLB> zetheroo: what icon? On the desktop?
[08:14] <raj> ok
[08:15] <taygalove> (I want Y system, actually. GNU'em all.)
[08:15] <zetheroo> DexterLB: in places ... once its mounted it appears on the Desktop
[08:15] <raj> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[08:15] <soreau> ! who | raj
[08:15] <DexterLB> raj: hurray
[08:15] <raj> this is my graphic card
[08:16] <soreau> raj: If you put peoples nicknames in what you say, it will highlight the person so they can better assist you
[08:16] <raj> ok
[08:16] <DexterLB> raj: this tutorial shows how to configure xorg.conf in your case. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[08:16] <raj> soreau
[08:16] <soreau> raj: Yes
[08:16] <raj> soreau  i sended u the graphic card model
[08:16] <DexterLB> raj: lol
[08:17] <soreau> raj: Right, so you have an intel chipset/gpu
[08:17] <raj> soreau  exactly
[08:17] <r3dux> Instead of the previous, try: lspci | grep VGA
[08:17] <soreau> raj: What resolution is being reported and which one are you trying to achieve?
[08:17] <TheFuzzball> Happy Christmas!
[08:17] <r3dux> You'll end up with your VGA card, not everything
[08:17] <[diablo]> mkquist_, just trying something with Songbird
[08:18] <zvacet> TheFuzzball : Merry Christmas to you too!
[08:18] <taygalove> grep -i VGA ?
[08:18] <raj> soreau i am having 800 x600 and 640 x 480 i want 1024 x 768
[08:19] <r3dux>  lspci | grep VGA                -- it IS rocket science.
[08:19] <raj> r3dux u r command is not working
[08:19] <taygalove> raj : that's SVGA, man
[08:19] <zetheroo> so any ideas?
[08:19] <raj> taygalove  what does it mean
[08:20] <r3dux> raj - it works fine for me - how on earth do you not have lspci in your path?
[08:20] <zetheroo> why are my partitions being mounted in root?
[08:20] <taygalove> raj: lspci | less
[08:20] <soreau> raj: Can you pastebin your X log? An easy way to do this is by running the following in your terminal: sudo apt-get install curl && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[08:20] <raj> taygalove  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[08:20] <soreau> raj: That should install curl then print a url containing your X log which you can paste back here for us to see
[08:22] <raj> soreau how can i paste
[08:22] <soreau> raj: Just run this command in your terminal: sudo apt-get install curl && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[08:22] <zvacet> raj :http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:23] <r3dux> soreau, you sound like a man who could connect to my NAS via USB, which has decided to use /dev/eth1 and made me assign it an address
[08:24]  * taygalove sings: some want more resolution, some want tiling managers, some want money, some want life
[08:24] <Leoneof`> hi, why Ubuntu versions not included pppoe GUI to connect networks? they have only pppoeconf for Terminal
[08:24] <raj> soreau how to copy and paste in terminal
[08:25] <zl3cat> !info pastebinit | soreau
[08:25] <soreau> raj: Copy from terminal, highlight. Then to paste somewhere else (like here) use middle click of your mouse to paste what you just highlighted
[08:25] <zl3cat> seems easier than curl...
[08:26] <soreau> zl3cat: I will not advocate that
[08:26] <zl3cat> how come?
[08:26] <soreau> r3dux: You got me all wrong. I don't know what you're talking about
[08:26] <soreau> zl3cat: Because I do not use it, thus I cannot elaborate
[08:27] <soreau> ! who | zl3cat
[08:27] <taygalove> raj study the configuration files of X
[08:27] <oat> ddddddddd
[08:27] <raj> soreau i followed ur command
[08:27] <soreau> raj: s/ur/your
[08:28] <zl3cat> soreau:  bah, there's only 1000 users in here, quietest I've ever seen... not too hard to follow the convo ;)
[08:28] <raj> soreau not working
[08:28] <soreau> zl3cat: I do not take kindly to people that do not know how to address people on irc
[08:28] <soreau> zl3cat: Except newcomers in which case, it would seem that you are not one
[08:28] <taygalove> raj work on studying X configs
[08:29] <soreau> ! work
[08:29] <soreau> ! work | raj
[08:29] <raj> taygalove teach me man
[08:29] <zl3cat> soreau:  grumpy much?
[08:29] <soreau> zl3cat: Always.
[08:29] <soreau> Get used to it
[08:30] <raj> soreau  raj command not found
[08:30] <soreau> raj: You typed the wrong command
[08:30] <taygalove> raj work means life
[08:30] <taygalove> raj work means another, better resolution
[08:30] <raj> soreau  : what is it then
[08:30] <soreau> zl3cat: Now, if you would like to instruct raj on how to use pastebinnit to pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log, that would be most helpful
[08:31] <raj> how to paste bin
[08:31] <BlouBlou> !paste | raj
[08:31] <zl3cat> raj:  sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[08:31] <soreau> ! pastebin | raj
[08:32] <soreau> raj: When we tell you a command, you should not include your nick (raj) with it
[08:32] <taygalove> work on it.. /me away.
[08:32] <raj> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2b3521f8
[08:32] <raj> soreau  ok brother
[08:33] <soreau> raj: That is good enough, hang on
[08:33] <BluShift> Random PCIe question for you guys: What does it mean when a motherboard has 2 PCIe slots, (both are x16 size) but one runs at x16 and the other runs are x4? Is that normal? Does that mean two x16 video cards can be used in SLI/Crossfire, or no?
[08:33] <raj> soreau  so tell me which command shall type
[08:33] <zl3cat> raj:  http://sprunge.us/aEAN is the bit we wanted, but that's cool
[08:33] <soreau> raj: just wait a sec so I can review your X log
[08:34] <raj> soreau  ok
[08:34] <raj> soreau  u tell me a command so i can send you a log
[08:34] <soreau> raj: Things look good there.. now can you pastebin the output of 'xrandr'?
[08:35] <Devrethman> BluShift: It's not normal if your motherboard specifcally says it should be able to run both at 16.
[08:35] <zl3cat> raj:  type " xrandr | pastebinit " (without the quotes) then give us the one line it gives you..
[08:35] <raj> soreau  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m68263316
[08:36] <BluShift> Devrethman: No, i'm reading specs for a new motherboard and I saw that -- I thought dual x16 PCIe slots == SLI/Crossfire ready. Am I wrong?
[08:36] <DexterLB> so, anyone to answer my grub question?
[08:36] <fahadsadah> DexterLB: Please could you repeat it?
[08:36] <DexterLB> sometimes grub2 doesn't want to automatically start the kernel after an s2disk, power failiure, and sometimes with no apparent reason. Can it be configured to always boot the first kernel without displaying the menu, or at least to have a timeout?
[08:37] <raj> soreau are you getting my log
[08:37] <zl3cat> raj:  yeah, he'll be looking it it now.
[08:37] <raj> zl3cat  ok
[08:37] <fahadsadah> DexterLB: Yes, you can.
[08:37] <fahadsadah> Just a second, please?
[08:38] <soreau> raj: Ok, you say you want 1024x768?
[08:38] <raj> soreau ya
[08:38] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: how?
[08:38] <fahadsadah> DexterLB: Please can you !pastebin your current GRUB config?
[08:38] <fahadsadah> !pastebin
[08:38] <soreau> raj: One moment
[08:38] <raj> soreau ok ..
[08:39] <m55> how do i put the netbook remix on a usb stick from osx?  I can only find .iso files, no .img files
[08:40] <BlouBlou> m55: Copy *.iso to usb, only that
[08:40] <m55> to a fat32 partition?
[08:40] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/346349/
[08:40] <raj> soreau : u there
[08:40] <soreau> raj: Yes
[08:40] <BlouBlou> m55: That's the same, if you install ubuntu it will create ext4 automatically
[08:41] <raj> soreau : what is the next step i shall do
[08:41] <soreau> raj: Pastebin the output of this: cvt 1024 768
[08:41] <fahadsadah> DexterLB: That's it?
[08:42] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: that's the entire contents of /etc/default/grub
[08:42] <fahadsadah> Sorry.
[08:42] <fahadsadah> I wanted /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:42] <raj> soreau : raj@raj-desktop:~$ cvt 1024 768
[08:42] <raj> # 1024x768 59.92 Hz (CVT 0.79M3) hsync: 47.82 kHz; pclk: 63.50 MHz
[08:42] <raj> Modeline "1024x768_60.00"   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
[08:43] <BlouBlou> raj: Please, use pastebin for paste text, pasting too much lines in channel can cause bot gives a quiet to you :)
[08:43] <dnivra> raj: you were supposed to pastebin it not paste it:).
[08:43] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: but I thought /etc/default/grub was vital because it is used to generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:43] <dnivra> !pastebin | raj
[08:43] <raj> soreau http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6011313d
[08:43] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: I'll post it anyway
[08:43] <soreau> raj: Ok, standby
[08:43] <raj> ok
[08:43] <fahadsadah> DexterLB: I need /boot/grub/grub.cfg because it contains details of your hard drives.
[08:44] <fahadsadah> With that, I can write you a new grub.cfg that has no menu
[08:44] <jozefk> every time I start Terminal the windows size is like 1/4 of the screen. where is the config file for gnome-terminal? or is there some other way for fixing this?
[08:45] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/346351/
[08:45] <raj> soreau did u get my log dude
[08:45] <raj> soreau : u there
[08:46] <raj> soreau : you there man
[08:46] <soreau> raj: Yes, just wait
[08:46] <raj> soreau : ok
[08:46] <raj> soreau : i am waiting
[08:46] <dnivra> !patience > dnivra
[08:46] <aax> oi arek sby
[08:47] <nellmathew> hey guys, i want to set up a ssh server on my computer, but have support/client pcs connect to me, so i can provide remote support (they are behind routers and i can't configure), what should i be looking for?
[08:47] <vanyok> Merry Christmas! :)
[08:47] <fahadsadah> DexterLB: Sorry, no, I don't know.
[08:47] <raj> merry chritmas to all guys
[08:47] <fahadsadah> I thought grub2 would be like grub.
[08:47] <m55> BlouBlou: I tried copying the contents of the netbook remix iso to a fat32 usb stick, and tried booting it up, but it doesn't boot
[08:47] <DexterLB> fahadsadah: it's totally different :(
[08:48] <soreau> raj: Run this all as one command:  xrandr --newmode "1024x768_60.00"   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync && sleep 1 && xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1024x768_60.00" && sleep 1 && xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768_60.00
[08:48] <dnivra> fahadsadah: what is DexterLB trying to do; just wanna know:).
[08:48] <fahadsadah> m55: In a terminal (on Mac or Ubuntu, doesn't matter), type: dd if=unr.iso of=/path/to/your/usb/stick/block/device
[08:48] <fahadsadah> dnivra: Remove the menu, and make it go straight to first kernel
[08:49] <BlouBlou> m55: Wich operative system have you got installed? because you can install ubuntu with wubi if you are using windows
[08:49] <raj> soreau : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a67d4b6
[08:49] <vaporub> nellmathew: they cannot provide vpn access for you to access their networks?
[08:49] <dnivra> fahadsadah: isn't it enough if he just hid the menu and set timeout to 1 or something?
[08:49] <taygalove> jozefk Ctrl Alt F7 ... Ctrl Alt F1
[08:49] <taygalove> jozefk full screen ttys
[08:50] <DexterLB> dnivra: i want to make grub2 act as grub (e.g. always DO boot the first kernel, may show a menu for a second but I don't want it to wait for my choice. Now it usually boots automatically but sometimes pauses and waits for me to press enter)
[08:50] <jozefk> i tried to right click on the icon from panel and changed the command from gnome-terminal to gnome-terminal --maximize
[08:50] <jozefk> i need to close it now and try
[08:50] <DexterLB> dnivra: I have set the timeout to 1
[08:50] <soreau> raj: Bah. That was not supposed to happen. Sorry, maybe you can ask in #intel-gfx
[08:50] <DexterLB> dnivra: it doesn't work
[08:50] <taygalove> jozefk use kill from tty
[08:50] <DexterLB> dnivra: well in most cases it works but sometimes it doesn't
[08:50] <nellmathew> vaporub, no - this isn't really a professional thing, just tryna help a few friends out.. was just curious, because i set up ssh on both machines.. did -R on my machine, and the same on theirs (after forwarding ports on my router, ect..) but their computer says cannot connect to my no-ip..
[08:50] <DexterLB> dnivra: and I want it to be certain that it boots
[08:51] <dnivra> DexterLB: i think you just need to set the timeout to some small value. that should be enough I guess.
[08:51]  * taygalove away helping mother.
[08:51] <raj> soreau : what is the problem
[08:51] <BlouBlou> !away > taygalove
[08:51] <soreau> raj: Intel sucks :P
[08:51] <raj> soreau : i cant get the resolution what i want
[08:52] <raj> soreau : who can help me
[08:52] <DexterLB> dnivra: it's set to 1
[08:52] <BlouBlou> raj: Just ask question :)
[08:52] <zl3cat> soreau:  funny, my experience with intel stuff is usually great.. only video that has 3d out of the box.
[08:52] <soreau> raj: Maybe you can ask in #intel-gfx about your problem.. on radeon/ati that would have worked
[08:52] <DexterLB> dnivra in most cases it waits 1 second and boots as intended
[08:52] <dnivra> DexterLB: the timeout is 1 and yet the boot doesn't happen sometimes?
[08:52] <soreau> raj: I mean intel sucks for gpu's, not spu's
[08:52] <jozefk> it's working now but only if I click on the icon in the panel
[08:52] <jozefk> :P
[08:52] <soreau> raj: cpu's*
[08:53] <DexterLB> dnivra: yes
[08:53] <jozefk> if I do Ctrl+Shift+N the new windows is still 1/4 of the screen
[08:53] <soreau> raj: Radeon/ATI was 3D OOTB too
[08:53] <DexterLB> dnivra: sometimes after a power failiure, hibernation or without any obvious reason
[08:53] <soreau> raj: s/was/has
[08:53] <jozefk> so that means there is a config file where I could fix this. I guess.
[08:53] <dnivra> DexterLB: this is baffling I must say.
[08:53] <dnivra> DexterLB: do you have other operating systems; perhaps you could disable them if you don't use them.
[08:54] <zetheroo> anyone here know a good deal about fstab?
[08:54] <DexterLB> dnivra: no, only karmic
[08:54] <dnivra> DexterLB: only karmic? then it's not supposed to show the menu at all!
[08:54] <DexterLB> dnivra: a regular kernel and a recovery mode kernel and a memtest
[08:54] <DexterLB> dnivra: id doesn't show the menu
[08:54] <zl3cat> soreau:  ahh, most of my machines are nvidia (which needs drivers..)
[08:54] <DexterLB> dnivra: but sometimes it shows it and doesn't boot until I press enter
[08:54] <DexterLB> i-d+it
[08:54] <DexterLB> -id+it
[08:55] <raj> bloublou: i want my screen resolution to 1024 x 768
[08:55] <ManDay> What package contains LaTeX documentation (for Texlive)?
[08:55] <dnivra> DexterLB: i see; well I'm not sure how to help you out. But I know an excellent GRUB2 documentation that can help you out hopefully. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:55] <ManDay> not TexLive specific docs but LaTeX in general
[08:55] <dnivra> DexterLB: I think if you set a hidden timeout; it might help.
[08:55] <raj> bloublou: i am getting only two resolutions right now
[08:55] <raj> soreau: so there is no way u can help me out
[08:56] <BlouBlou> raj: Did you install graphic drivers?
[08:56] <soreau> raj: Basically you need to add a 1024x768 mode through xrandr or xorg.conf so you will have that mode available. If your monitor is not capable of this, it likely will not work
[08:56] <dnivra> DexterLB: check the documentation - they've explained well how to set those basic things like a hidden timeout and stuff. it's pretty good for most cases I think. hope that helps.
[08:56] <soreau> BlouBlou: His drivers are installed by default and working fine
[08:56] <soreau> It is not nvidia
[08:56] <DexterLB> dnivra: how do i do that?
[08:56] <DexterLB> dnivra: Here's my /etc/default/grub: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/346349/
[08:56] <DexterLB> dnivra: ok I'll be looking at the doco
[08:56] <BlouBlou> soreau: Okay
[08:56] <raj> bloublou :help me
[08:57] <zl3cat> !res | raj this might help?
[08:57] <raj> in live cd i am getting 1024 x768
[08:57] <taygalove> soreau raj either wants to change transistors on his video or use a higher than 1024 resol.
[08:57] <dnivra> DexterLB: Yeah i did take a look at that; it's same as what i have. Just look at the documentation: I'm not sure how to exactly set hidden timeout that's why:).
[08:58] <zl3cat> weird that it would be OK on the live CD and not in the installed system...
[08:58] <raj> so what shall i do
[08:58] <raj> i am having problem with screen resolution
[08:59] <raj> i need 1024x768
[08:59] <BlouBlou> raj: zl3cat gaves you usseful information before you quitting, did you saw it? :)
[08:59] <raj> no i didnot
[08:59] <zl3cat> raj:  so what happens if you just move /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart gdm without it?
[08:59] <raj> bloublou : send me again
[08:59] <zl3cat> !res | raj this might help?
[08:59] <taygalove> hmm mouse doesn't work in ubuntu ttys... ok
[08:59] <BlouBlou> raj: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo  /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[09:00] <BlouBlou> raj: That was
[09:00] <taygalove> raj alternate way to restart X, is Ctrl Alt Backspace which is enabled by dontzap package and some cofiguration, google dontzap
[09:01] <zl3cat> taygalove:  pretty sure zap is dissabled by default
[09:02] <taygalove> zl3cat there will be time for me to plunge into writing debuggers...
[09:02] <tolpico> In which directory are Emerald themes saved? Thanks
[09:03] <zl3cat> tolpico:  at a guess, probably .emerald ;)
[09:03] <iKernel> tolpico, $HOME/.emerald that is
[09:03] <zl3cat> tolpico:  .emerald/themes/
[09:03] <tolpico> zl3cat, iKernel is there a way we can install for all users
[09:03] <zl3cat> tolpico:  ~/.emerald/themes/ if you want to be picky...
[09:04] <raj> nothing is helping me
[09:04] <iKernel> raj wassup?
[09:04] <raj> i am planning to remove from my computer
[09:05] <iKernel> raj what are you planning to remove from your computer?
[09:05] <raj> i am having screen resolution problem
[09:05] <raj> and none is helping me
[09:05] <iKernel> raj can you be more specific?
[09:05] <raj> ubuntu
[09:05] <iKernel> a little more specific
[09:06] <raj> iam not getting 1024x768  resolution
[09:06] <iKernel> raj no one can help you if you don't tell us exactly what the problem is
[09:06] <iKernel> raj maybe your graphics card doesn't support it
[09:06] <raj> ikernel: it came in live cd
[09:06] <zl3cat> iKernel:  intel chipset, works at 1024x768 on the live cd but it seems he's stuck in 800x600 after installing
[09:06] <raj> ya exactly
[09:07] <iKernel> have you tried removing all modes about from 1024x768 from xorg.conf? if you do that then it'll be forced to use that resolution
[09:07] <iKernel> s/about/apart
[09:07] <raj> ikernel: mine is 17 inch monitor how can i use this 800x600 resolution
[09:07] <zl3cat> raj:  my suggestion would be "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.busted" and then reboot.
[09:07] <raj> ikernel: my eyes r paining
[09:07] <zl3cat> I don't think it could make anything worse ;)
[09:08] <raj> ok guys ubuntu is not working fine
[09:08] <zl3cat> basically that'd leave X running with no xorg.conf just like it does on the live CD.
[09:08] <iKernel> works great for me
[09:08] <raj> i think this a flop version
[09:08] <iKernel> fresh xubuntu installation straight off the latest (stable) amd64 iso
[09:09] <iKernel> and everything works straight off the bat
[09:09] <raj> soreanu : u there
[09:09] <iKernel> less trouble configuring things than with windows =d
[09:09] <raj> blou blou: u there
[09:09] <zl3cat> raj:  give what I said a try?
[09:10] <soreau> raj: I am still here
[09:10] <soreau> raj: I am not sure why it would work on a live cd but not after you install it
[09:10] <soreau> raj: It should work
[09:10] <raj> soreau : i think its a defect in ubuntu
[09:10] <zl3cat> soreau:  'cos the installer is trying to be smart and making an xorg.conf which is less optimal than none at all... ;)
[09:11] <raj> soreau : so there is no way to fix this?
[09:11] <soreau> zl3cat: You think the live cd makes a conf file the install wouldnt have? That doesn't make any sense to me
[09:11] <voltron> hello, i have a simple question : in order to have touchscreen functionalities, do I have to buy a touchscreen monitor (i mean hardware enabled touchscreen) or can i add some packages to my old regular monitor and then it becomes a touchscreen ?
[09:11] <zl3cat> raj:  which version ubuntu btw? 9.10 or something earlier?
[09:11] <raj> soreau : say perfectly so that i can go back to windows
[09:11] <raj> 9.10
[09:11] <soreau> If it does do that, this is a ubuntu bug
[09:12] <tolpico> ok the emerald themes are being installed correctly in ~/.emerald/themes/ but when i click the theme in emerald manager it does'nt apply. Whats wrong?
[09:12] <raj> zl3cat: 9.10
[09:12] <soreau> raj: I don't care which OS you use, I would like to know why ubuntu is acting in this way though
[09:12] <navin> i'm on ubuntu. I've a Windows XP CD but it is not bootable. So i'm planning to write a bootable CD with contents from my other CD. i'm using xcdroast. Where can i get the boot catalog ?
[09:12] <iKernel> tolpico, maybe you have to restart your desktop environment
[09:12] <aax> aax
[09:12] <jurisz> where can I get fair comparision of virtualisation software?
[09:12] <zl3cat> soreau:  no, I think the instalelr creates one sometimes trying to get 'better' settings.. and perhaps it would work better with none as it does on the live CD.
[09:12] <navin> or bootimage
[09:12] <ssss> hi
[09:12] <raj> soreau : u would better ask who invented ubuntu
[09:12] <subanomic> can someone convince me to use Ubuntu instead of Debian on a server?
[09:13] <lstarnes> raj: why?
[09:13] <voltron> any answer guys ?
[09:13] <raj> need an expert
[09:13] <raj> need an expert
[09:13] <raj> need an expert
[09:13] <FloodBot2> raj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <soreau> raj: heh, I don't think it is that simple. More likely, you better ask the intel driver maintainer group
[09:13] <tolpico> iKernel, ctrl + Alt + backspace doesnt work
[09:13] <raj> soreau : intel rocks
[09:14] <lstarnes> !dontzap | tolpico
[09:14] <jurisz> subanomic: go to #ubuntu-server there maybe somebody would answer better
[09:14] <rock312> hello
[09:14] <zl3cat> raj:  try what I said, renaming the xorg.conf to something else and restarting. I do not think it could make anything worse.
[09:14] <raj> soreau : as i am new to ubuntu i came here to ask
[09:14] <soreau> raj: But flooding and asking the same question over again wont get you anywhere. better ask in #intel-gfx
[09:14] <subanomic> oh, didnt know of that channel, ty jurisz
[09:14] <navin> i'm on linux. I've a Windows XP CD but it is not bootable. So i'm planning to write a bootable CD with contents from my other CD. i'm using xcdroast. Where can i get the boot catalog or boot image for Windows Xp bootable disk ?
[09:14] <iKernel> tolpico, yeah I know, weird thing. i don't know why that key stroke doesn't work anymore
[09:14] <soreau> raj: If you want to get support in #intel-gfx, you have to be persistent and patient
[09:14] <raj> soreau : i think u people are also new nothing difference
[09:14] <iKernel> tolpico, try killall -9 Xorg
[09:15] <soreau> raj: Impatience will get you nowhere
[09:15] <raj> soreau : what is intel - gfx
[09:15] <soreau> Ralfm_: Type this in here: /j #intel-gfx
[09:15] <raj> soreau : maintain clarity
[09:15] <soreau> raj: It will bring you to a channel for intel graphics
[09:15] <raj> ok
[09:16] <tolpico> iKernel, doesnt seem to work, but ubottu gave the link to renable it, it works now..
[09:16] <iKernel> !thanks
[09:16] <lstarnes> soreau: I don't recall that channel having existed
[09:16] <zl3cat> I do not think he really wanted an answer..
[09:17] <tolpico> ubottu, oh really, such an intelligetn bot, amazing
[09:18] <raj> need help on screen resolution
[09:18] <zl3cat> raj: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.busted  then log out and see what happens?
[09:18] <soreau> lstarnes: See for yourself /j #intel-gfx
[09:19] <raj> its coming no such directory found
[09:19] <zl3cat> raj: ahh, ok
[09:19] <raj> need help on screen resolution
[09:19] <zl3cat> well that is very weird.
[09:19] <soreau> lstarnes: As  matter of fact, there are a number of reputable open source graphics driver developers who idle there
[09:20] <raj> zlcat: so do u know how to fix it
[09:20] <raj> zlcat: ubuntu looks ugly in 800x600
[09:20]  * corpse`grinder _ DeaD`UntiL`DarK _
[09:20] <raj> need 1024x768
[09:20] <TimbukFive> then change this :d
[09:20] <raj> querie on screen resolution
[09:20] <|jonathan|> :P
[09:21] <iKernel> brb, Xorg kill
[09:21] <raj> any one there
[09:21] <raj> to help
[09:21] <TimbukFive> driver issue?
[09:21] <zl3cat> raj:  perhaps the easiest answer is just get an older nvidia or ati card and give up on the onboard video chipset.
[09:21] <TimbukFive> nvida?
[09:21] <TimbukFive> nvida works fine for me, go no nvida website and download this :s
[09:21] <BlouBlou> !anybody | raj
[09:21] <raj> so ubuntu does not work on intel
[09:21] <lstarnes> raj: it should
[09:22] <niek33> hi all
[09:22] <zl3cat> raj:  normally it works very well with intel..
[09:22] <BlouBlou> niek33: Hi
[09:22] <lstarnes> raj: there were issues with 9.04, but I think those issues were resolved before 9.10 was released
[09:22] <niek33> Quick question.. i am new to IRC, but im trying to connect with a PHP channel.. does anybody know which channel i should have?
[09:22] <lstarnes> niek33: ##php
[09:22] <BlouBlou> niek33: /join ##php
[09:22] <shazbotmcnasty> Where can one get awesome wallpapers?
[09:22] <raj> lstarnes : but still i am not getting the resolution
[09:23] <lstarnes> niek33: note that some channels, like ##php, require registration with nickservf
[09:23] <lstarnes> *nickserv
[09:23] <soreau> niek33: /j ##php
[09:23] <niek33> nickserv?
[09:23] <zl3cat> shazbotmcnasty:  gnome-look.org or deviantart.com
[09:23] <raj> so what shall i do now quit ubuntu ?
[09:23] <lstarnes> raj: you might need to manually configure the resolution on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:23] <raj> need advices
[09:23] <lstarnes> niek33: the nickname service
[09:23] <BlouBlou> niek33: Feel free to ask in #freenode about freenode's services
[09:23] <lstarnes> !register | niek33
[09:23] <shazbotmcnasty> zl3cat, thanks
[09:23] <TimbukFive> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <raj> need help on custom of screen resolution
[09:24] <TimbukFive> there look for resolution
[09:24] <lstarnes> TimbukFive: that should be gksudo, NOT sudo
[09:24] <TimbukFive> sudo works fine for me
[09:24] <lstarnes> TimbukFive: gedit is a graphical application
[09:24] <lstarnes> !gksudo | TimbukFive
[09:24] <niek33> /msg nickserv register ikbenniek nwhdewin@gmail.com
[09:24] <TimbukFive> works anyway :s
[09:24] <zl3cat> !worksforme | TimbukFive
[09:24] <iKernel> I had to reboot =\
[09:25] <lstarnes> niek33: try again.  Make sure nothing is before the / (also, change your password)
[09:25] <niek33> lol, alright
[09:25] <optimizer> anyone have suggestion for an item of clothing taht will keep you warm whie coding? like a big bathrobe, but reversed
[09:25] <TimbukFive> hm okay dont know :s iam a little bit newby :s
[09:25] <BlouBlou> lstarnes: Example; gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus << Both works without errors as sudo
[09:25] <lstarnes> niek33: after registering, you will need to look for a verification code in your email
[09:25] <zl3cat> TimbukFive:  works for me too, but around here I tell ppl to use gksu because that's proper ;)
[09:26] <lstarnes> BlouBlou: but sudo handles the environment improperly for graphical applications meant to be used by users
[09:26] <zero> Hello everyone
[09:26] <zl3cat> optimizer:  big fluffy blanket
[09:26] <optimizer> perferabbly somthing that i can stick arms into
[09:26] <zl3cat> optimizer:  big fluffy blanket with armholes ;)
[09:27] <optimizer> well, and provide warmth to arms too
[09:27] <Guest32571> So, I was doing some prodding around with CUDA enhanced applications, and found myself at a hard-lock and had to hard-reset my desktop, and it appears my session has become corrupt (or something along those lines) I can login to gnome failsafe, but not my gnome session
[09:27] <iKernel> optimizer, I've seen these blankets with sleeves on them on TV for (only!!) 60 bucks, but you can get the same thing online for 10
[09:28] <optimizer> iKernel: what should I google for?
[09:28] <optimizer> iKernel: cani get them wth 3 easy payments of 19.95 ?
[09:28] <optimizer> iKernel: if I hurry now, will they throw in some booklet on how to use the blankets too?
[09:28] <iKernel> lmfao
[09:28] <Guest32571> I know in older releases, I was able to simply copy my gnome-session file from session-default and be able to start back up, but in karmic I can't seem to find the file, anybody know where I should look next?
[09:28] <zl3cat> !ot | optimizer:  this isn't really an ubuntu support question..
[09:29] <iKernel> !oops | Guest32571
[09:29] <optimizer> is there anyway to control an electric blanket from ubuntu? what models of electric blankets support ubuntu control via usb?
[09:29]  * corpse`grinder _ DeaD`UntiL`DarK _
[09:29] <paolo> ciao
[09:30] <iKernel> optimizer, hasn't been invented yet, sounds like the perfect laptop product
[09:30] <Almindor> anyone per chance knows how to convert a Dia diagram (database, not UML toolset) into a SQL table creation script?
[09:30] <iKernel> paolo, doesn't that mean bye?
[09:30] <minimec> Guest32571: rename .gnome and .gnome2 --> .gnome-old .gnome2-old. Try to login then
[09:30] <Almindor> I tried multiple tools but they all expect UML toolset
[09:30] <zl3cat> optimizer:  optical relay connected to a spare parallel port is traditional (I used to run the coffee machine that way)
[09:30] <paolo> bye
[09:30] <digitalchemist> it's hi and bye, isn't it?
[09:30] <corpse`grinder> ¬       _·(   hii   )·_       ¬
[09:30] <Guest32571> minimec: thanks, I'll try that.
[09:31] <iKernel> zl3cat, but then you have to write your own program
[09:31] <iKernel> i gotta get smthn 2 drenk
[09:31] <grawity> corpse`grinder: Can you please turn off that?
[09:31] <zl3cat> iKernel:  there's plenty of little c snippets that show you how, it's pretty simple to do.
[09:31] <corpse`grinder> ¬       _·(    _(  grawity  )_ ok im turning it off   )·_       ¬
[09:32] <corpse`grinder> grawity is it ok now?
[09:32] <zl3cat> iKernel:  http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Coffee.html
[09:32] <zetheroo> do you have to reboot after making changes to fstab?
[09:32] <digitalchemist> @zetheroo, not necessarily
[09:32] <lstarnes> zetheroo: not usually.  just remount everything
[09:32] <digitalchemist> mount -a
[09:32] <zl3cat> zetheroo:  usually just 'mount -a' if you've added a filesystem
[09:32] <zetheroo> oh ok
[09:32] <lstarnes> zetheroo: if / was modified, it might be a good idea to reboot
[09:33] <zl3cat> 'sudo mount -a' rather
[09:33] <zl3cat> .. since you're NOT running as root, I hope ;)
[09:33] <grawity> corpse`grinder: yes, much better now.
[09:34] <zl3cat> and if you changed / I think "sudo mount / -o remount' works
[09:34] <francesco_> Happy Christmas
[09:34] <zl3cat> Oh wait, no it won't
[09:35] <francesco_> every one say the italian channel?
[09:35] <lstarnes> !it | francesco_
[09:35] <zl3cat> !it | francesco_
[09:35] <zl3cat> damn too slow
[09:35] <francesco_> thx
[09:35] <zetheroo> I am trying to get a partition to mount automatically
[09:35] <zetheroo> in fstab
[09:35] <hi> hi
[09:35] <hi> happy chritmas to all
[09:36] <digitalchemist> @zetheroo: the option should be 'auto'
[09:36] <digitalchemist> (90% sure)
[09:36] <zl3cat> !ntfs | zetheroo any of this helpful?
[09:36] <Guest64073> need help on screen resolution
[09:36] <zl3cat> !fstab
[09:36] <zl3cat> or any of that ;)
[09:37] <digitalchemist> wow, bot-master   :-)
[09:37] <zer_x252> minimec: I tried renaming .gnome2 and .gnome2-private to .gnome2-old and .gnome2-private-old, I was unable to locate a .gnome to rename, I tried logging in and its still doing the same thing, I get an Nvidia splash screen for a half a second and then it boots me back out to login
[09:37] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  for ntfs to be readable by ordinary users, you have to set masks and stuff...
[09:37] <Guest64073> any body there to help
[09:38] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  bot-abuser... I'm too lasy to actually help so I just drop !bot triggers at everyone
[09:38] <zer_x252> Guest64073: what exactly to do with screen resolution?
[09:38] <zer_x252> Anybody got any advice on what to do about a corrupt gnome session?
[09:38] <zer_x252> default session boots me back out to login but I'm able to login to failsafe
[09:38] <digitalchemist> zl3cat: I've never had to do anything special for NTFS ... but I hardly use it anyway
[09:38] <Guest64073> i need 104x768 resolution
[09:39] <zer_x252> 1024x768 I presume?, if you look at your gnome-panel at the menu's, there's one labeled "System" click it and go to preferences, then display
[09:39] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: Will System->Preferences->Dispaly work?
[09:39] <minimec> zer_x252: hmm... next rename .dbus --> .dbus-old ...
[09:39] <Guest64073> zer_zx252: i need 1024x768 resolution but i am getting only two which are less then i am prefering
[09:39] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: ati or nvidia?
[09:40] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  well if you just mount it from 'places' ubuntu takes care of that, if you want to add it to /etc/fstab and have it read-write I think you need to add a umask option.. and make it ntfs-3g rather that 'auto' which will be the older ntfs support
[09:40] <zer_x252> minimec: thanks, I'll try that now, hopefully be back in a few =D
[09:40] <Guest64073> zer_zx252: u there
[09:40] <Guest64073> zer_zx252: did u get my querie
[09:40] <iKernel> om nom humcha nom nom
[09:41] <digitalchemist> zl3cat: is that for more than one users -- or just one?
[09:41] <zl3cat> Guest64073:  the other thing you might try is find a local LUG and get some hands-on help...
[09:42] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: do you know if you have an ATI card, and Nvidia card, or something else?
[09:42] <digitalchemist> *an Nvidia card
[09:42] <Guest64073> intel
[09:42] <mix22891> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[09:42] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  well, mounting it from 'places' will I think mount it owned/accessable by the current user, putting it in /etc/fstab you have to explicitly set owner and permissions in the options
[09:42] <zer_x252> minimec: seems that didn't do the trick either...
[09:42] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: mine is intel
[09:42] <digitalchemist> zl3cat: that'd explain why I haven't run into that yet. cool, thanks.
[09:43] <Guest64073> intel graphic card
[09:43] <r3za> hi , guys , how can i import my email from Thunbird in windows to evolution in Ubuntu karmic ?
[09:43] <Gumby> hi all.  does anyone know if there is a way to take a CD iso and make it into a DVD iso?  I'm in dire need of a bootable disk but all I have are DVDs
[09:43] <zl3cat> Gumby:  afaik they're identical.. just burn it to a DVD and it should be sweet
[09:43] <shazbotmcnasty> listen to zl3cat
[09:43] <mgolisch> Gumby: actualy i think you can burn a cd iso onto a dvd no problem
[09:43] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: mine is intel  845 graphic card
[09:43] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: I haven't done anything with those yet ... with the nvidia or ati cards they have their own control panels ... have you searched much about the problem?
[09:43] <shazbotmcnasty> or, use a usb, it's easier in my opinion
[09:44] <Gumby> ok cool.  I'll try that out
[09:44] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: yes
[09:44] <Devrethman> Gumby: Just burn the CD onto a DVD ISO
[09:44] <minimec> zer_x252: we can confinue with .gconf and .gconfd... You can rename back the other folders...
[09:44] <iKernel> Gumby, yup, they're the same thing only the dvd iso is larger
[09:44] <Devrethman> wait, that didn't make sense
[09:44] <Devrethman> burn the CD ISO onto a DVD
[09:44] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: but i am not getting answer
[09:44] <Gumby> Devrethman: not really.  lol
[09:44] <shazbotmcnasty> get the iso, get a clean usb stick, install unetbootin - and unpack the iso onto the usb
[09:44] <Gumby> hehe
[09:44] <shazbotmcnasty> it's awseom
[09:44] <zl3cat> iKernel:  the dvd iso 'can' be larger .. it doesn't have to be ;)
[09:44] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: 9.04, 9.10 or what?
[09:44] <shazbotmcnasty> awsome*
[09:44] <Guest64073> 9.10
[09:44] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: 9.10
[09:45] <iKernel> zl3cat, they don't call dvd iso's dvd iso's unless they're larger than what a CD can hold
[09:45] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: its new version
[09:45] <zer_x252> iKernel, moot point, the only reason ISO's are ever 700mb or 4.7gb is due to zeroes being written to the file
[09:46] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: do u have any idea
[09:46] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: r not
[09:46] <iKernel> zer_x252, bullbunkels, who would be manure brained enough to do that?
[09:46] <zer_x252> Guest64073 what model intel chip do you have?
[09:46] <digitalchemist> guest64703: I was searching for info ... just read http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:46] <zer_x252> Guest64073: also, is it in a desktop board, or a Laptop?
[09:47] <iKernel> hm now what was I going to do
[09:47] <Guest64073> zer_x252 : its 8945 model
[09:47] <Raydiation> wheres the simplicity of the former menu.lst?
[09:47] <iKernel> I've been wondering about that ^ too
[09:47] <Guest64073> zer_x252 : its a desktop board
[09:47] <zer_x252> Guest64073: read what digitalchemist posted,it should help
[09:47] <Raydiation> really grub 2 sucks
[09:47] <zl3cat> lol raj, just stick a better supported agp or pci video card in the box that's the easy answer
[09:47] <Guest64073> zer_x252 : again post it
[09:48] <zer_x252> http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:48] <iKernel> Raydiation, it wouldn't be hard to introduce a menu.lst into grub 2 i should think...
[09:48] <Raydiation> no one needs an uberbootloader
[09:48] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: I think it's got potential ... they definitely changed their approach though
[09:48] <zl3cat> grub2 confuses and frightens me...
[09:48] <Raydiation> does anyone know btw how to get the countdown off grub2 btw?
[09:49] <zer_x252> Anybody else have any pointers on session issues?
[09:49] <iKernel> Raydiation, press the down arrow key ;)
[09:49] <zl3cat> !grub2 | Raydiation probably in here somewhere...
[09:49] <Raydiation> iKernel: hehe
[09:50] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: do you want no auto-boot or to boot automatically into one without the menu?
[09:50] <iKernel> Raydiation, it's a miracle, someone finally caught the format of my sarcastic jokes
[09:51] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: I think it's in /etc/default/grub
[09:51] <Raydiation> ah ok, thx for the wikilink
[09:51] <Raydiation> there were so many files in the boot dir that ive overseen grub.cfg
[09:51] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: I'm not sure about GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT versus GRUB_TIMEOUT
[09:52] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: best practice is to not directly edit grub.cfg ... it isn't even write-enabled by default
[09:52] <hi> need help on screen resolution
[09:52] <zl3cat> Raydiation:  you're not supposed to edut grub.cfg directly though, it gets rebuilt by scripts... the real setting is somewhere in /etc/grub2 iirc
[09:52] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: the new approach is to edit grub's generator files then run something like grub-update as root
[09:52] <iKernel> !ot | all lame n00bs r belong 2 dis chan
[09:52] <iKernel> lol
[09:53] <Raydiation> ehm lol, you cant edit the file?
[09:53] <Guest23799> how to customize the screen resolution
[09:53] <zl3cat> ok, screen resolution guy is just getting annoying now
[09:53] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: it'll get wiped out on when an upgrade happens or some other trigger sets it off
[09:53] <iKernel> Guest23799, you can't, there's only a finite number of screen resolutions your card supports
[09:53] <Guest23799> need help on screen resolution
[09:54] <iKernel> Guest23799, if you're the dude with the stupid intel chipset that is a piece of crap, READ this: http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:54] <xorwhy> How do I set up a server?
[09:54] <Guest23799> ikernel: how can u say that
[09:54] <iKernel> xorwhy, install ubuntu-server I guess :)
[09:54] <zl3cat> Guest23799:  stop coming back and asking the same question over and over under different names and then ignoreing all the answers, it's getting annoying ok?
[09:54] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: server for host what? web page, irc server...?
[09:54] <xorwhy> K, I'll start with that ikernel
[09:55] <zer_x252> minimec: just tried .gconf and .gconfd, same issue still
[09:55] <iKernel> xorwhy, whoa, ubuntu-server is like an alternative ubuntu distribution, you'd be best off with a clean installation
[09:55] <xorwhy> I'd like to host an openarena game server, as well as have a network share for storange available to my LAN
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> and ubuntu server doesn't come with GUI
[09:56] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: Well, sudo apt-get install openarena openarena-data openarena-server
[09:56] <Guest23799> zl3cat: no one is answering my problem
[09:56] <iKernel> xorwhy, ah well, all you need for that is the samba server and what BlouBlou said
[09:56] <iKernel> Guest23799, http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:56] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: Then use; openarena-server; and type commands there
[09:56] <Guest23799> zl3cat: can u help me
[09:56] <xorwhy> Ah, OK great, thanks for the help
[09:56] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: No problem :)
[09:57] <zl3cat> Guest23799, if you're the dude with the stupid intel chipset that is a piece of crap, READ this: http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:57] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: (If you are via router don't forget forwarding OA's ports)
 ikernel: how can u say that
[09:57] <xorwhy> I'm wondering if it's possible to run the openarena server, and play on that server from the machine serving it?
[09:57] <xorwhy> Ah, good tip BlouBlou
[09:58] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: Yes, it is, because openarena-server works in a terminal (or tty)
[09:58] <xorwhy> Fantastic, you guys are great
[09:58] <BlouBlou> ^_^
[09:58] <iKernel> xorwhy, you could probably connect to 127.0.0.1 that way you won't have to go via the router... or does IP stack do that by default
[09:58] <iKernel> =)
[09:58] <iKernel> *warm fuzzy feeling*
[09:59] <zl3cat> iKernel:  it figures out the routing itself
[09:59] <iKernel> ah
[09:59] <ubuntuuser> hi
[09:59] <Guest23799> ikernel: mine is 945 mother board
[09:59] <iKernel> hence, no difference in performance from connecting to 127.0.0.1 to 192.168.2.23
[10:00] <Guest23799> ikernel: u gave me wrong link
[10:00] <iKernel> Guest23799, yes but you are having the same problem so follow that guide
[10:00] <iKernel> OMFG
[10:00] <iKernel> Guest23799, how about you just TRY it
[10:00] <Guest23799> ikernel: in that first command is only not working
[10:00] <zer_x252> wait wait wait
[10:00] <xorwhy> 127.0.0.1 doesn't go through the router, it'd give me a little ping advantage to not use 192.168.x.x right?
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> I need help , just freshly install 9.10 but the gnome panel freeze , it stuck at login loading screen .Sometimes manage to boot in but some times doesnt
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> really need hlep
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> please
[10:00] <zer_x252> 945 is a chipset
[10:00] <iKernel> yes
[10:01] <zl3cat> iKernel:  I came to the conclusion about a half hour ago that that guy probably doesn't even run ubuntu and is just trolling
[10:01] <zer_x252> a chipset without graphics acceleration
[10:01] <Guest23799> ya 945 is a chip set
[10:01] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: If you connect via local network you'll get 0 ping
[10:01] <digitalchemist> heh ... first heard 845 then 8945 .. now it's the 945
[10:01] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: However if you connect to server via internet option, you'll get 20-30 ping or something
[10:01] <zl3cat> that was BEFORE he started coming back under different names
[10:02] <zer_x252> we need to know what graphics acceleration you are using in order to troubleshoot why you are unable to change your resolution, for all I know your using a geforce FX 5200
[10:02] <ubuntuuser> I need help , just freshly install 9.10 but the gnome panel freeze , it stuck at login loading screen .Sometimes manage to boot in but some times doesnt
[10:02] <Guest23799> i am having graphic card inbuilt
[10:02] <iKernel> xorwhy, because it has to go up to your exchange and back if you use internet option
[10:02] <zer_x252> Guest23799: which card is the important part
[10:02] <Guest23799> ikernel: do u know the command to see my graphic card
[10:03] <iKernel> Guest23799, lspci
[10:03] <zl3cat> bah, I have better things to do...
[10:03] <Guest23799> zer_x252: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:03] <iKernel> Guest23799, i think everyone who's in this channel has already figured that out by now. Why don't you just go up the street and buy yourself a cheap nvidia graphics card for 100 bucks, which will perform 5x better than your crap inbuilt one, and then you won't have any trouble with screen resolution?
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> I need help , just freshly install 9.10 but the gnome panel freeze , it stuck at login loading screen .Sometimes manage to boot in but some times doesnt
[10:04] <Guest23799> ikernel: ok bye
[10:04] <iKernel> ubuntuuser, just to make sure, you're not trying to run this on an antique are you?
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> how to restore default of gnome panel on karmic
[10:04] <zer_x252> Guest23799 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=420185&highlight=intel+video
[10:04] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: try making a backup of your xorg.conf, deleting it from /etc then rebooting
[10:04] <zer_x252> 15 seconds in google
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> ikernel what is antique?
[10:04] <Guest23799> ikernel: i will do it my self
[10:05] <iKernel> digitalchemist, won't work
[10:05] <zer_x252> Guest23799: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455525
[10:05] <iKernel> ubuntulog, anything Pentium 3 and below
[10:05] <zer_x252> try that link
[10:05] <iKernel> ubuntuuser, , anything Pentium 3 and below
[10:05] <ubuntuuser> ikernel no
[10:05] <zer_x252> Guest 23799: its a link with someone else with your EXACT CHIPSET having the EXACT issue
[10:05] <iKernel> ubuntuuser, ok
[10:05] <Guest23799> digitalchemist : i dont know that back up process tat all
[10:05] <ubuntuuser> Kernal i works well when I install but once I add another panel to the bottom it freeze
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal now it getting worst freeze at login screen
[10:06] <porKi> Which is the best IDE for learning basic C and C++ programs ?
[10:06] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal i just wanted to load it back to default or edit it
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal i am using live cd now
[10:07] <ubuntuuser> iKernal how do I edit the config file of gonme panel ?
[10:07] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: if you can get to a command line under your user name, try mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2-old, and logging in
[10:07] <zer_x252> that should load default gnome configuration
[10:07] <digitalchemist> that's a little heavy-handed ...
[10:08] <zer_x252> if your on karmic ><
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> hopefully yes on f1  , but moving it to old ?
[10:08] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: the file might be at ~/.gconf/apps/panel/profiles/default/
[10:08] <digitalchemist> > toplevels/top_panel/%gconf.xml
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 , does it really work ?
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemis : i can't access it on a live cd
[10:09] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: mount your hard drive?   :-)
[10:09] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: I'm not certain as thats the gnome-session config, and you are having issues with gnome-panel
[10:09] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: however, that doesnt mean that something in your session isn't fooling with gnome-panel
[10:10] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: not working
[10:10] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : it only freeze only when I add new panel
[10:10] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: the command failed?
[10:10] <digitalchemist> Does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist on your system?
[10:10] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: yes
[10:11] <niek33> Hi all!
[10:11] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: so you should be able to move the xorg.conf file to another location and reboot
[10:11] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: mine drivers are up to date but still i am not able to get the resolution
[10:11] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: if you can login to your gnome sometimes, if you can get in I would try starting synaptic, press alt+f2, and type killall gnome-panel, then alt+f2 and typing gksudo synaptic, find gnome-panel and completely remove it, after thats done, reinstall it from the repository
[10:11] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : digitalchemist : how do I check my log when cause it to be freeze ?
[10:12] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: ok
[10:12] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: my guess would be somewhere under /var/log, but that's an area I'm very unfamiliar with
[10:12] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: complete removal using synaptic will also delete all configuration files, once you reinstall it from the repositories, you should be able to restart it with gnome-panel
[10:13] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: how to move xorg.conf
[10:13] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 , there is no way to edit it or remove the panel ?
[10:13] <zer_x252> killall gnome-panel
[10:13] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: it looks like the configuration files have been moved .. they start at ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[10:13] <zer_x252> jk
[10:14] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: well, you can keep it from starting up
[10:14] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: i need the correct path
[10:14] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: what digitalchemist said
[10:14] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list
[10:15] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: remove 'panel' from that key, and you'll be able to boot without gnome-panel starting
[10:15] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : digitalchemist : I am getting very confuse right now , what step should I do  ? Now I am using live cd ,
[10:15] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: follow what digitalchemist is saying, the method I said will not work
[10:15] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:i am not having xorg.conf
[10:15] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: mount your hard drive so you can access your configuration files
[10:15] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:in the path u mentiioned
[10:16] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: so you don't have one already. nevermind, this won't fix it. I've had xorg.conf cause problems before and deleting it can fix them sometimes... but you don't even have one
[10:16] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: that's all I know about this. I don't have any intel video hardware
[10:16] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:ya so what to do now
[10:17] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:ok thanks for ur help
[10:17] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : mounted now , what should I do next ?
[10:17] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: how can i get help from ubuntu people any customer care like taht
[10:17] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: forums maybe
[10:18] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: navigate to /home/<your_name>/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session
[10:18] <minimec> Guest23799: What is your xorg problem exactly?
[10:19] <zer_x252> minimec, what should my next steps be on this login issue?
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : nothing inse the .gconf
[10:19] <Guest23799> minimec: i am not getting bettet resolution
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : nothing inside the .gconf
[10:19] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: there's nothing in ~/.gconf?
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : no desktop
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : yep nothing
[10:19] <Guest23799> minimec: xorg.conf file is missing too
[10:20] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: umm... there's not even an apps folder under .gconf?
[10:20] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it said The folder contents could not be displayed.
[10:20] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of ".gconf".
[10:20] <Guest23799> minimec: do u have any idea what i am talking about
[10:21] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: ok ... "sudo su"; "cd /media/<drive_id>/home/<your_user>/.gconf"
[10:21] <minimec> zer_x252: Hmmm. You didn't get a solution for your problem... Don't really know how I can help you further...
[10:21] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: basically, switch to root, navigate to the location of your home folder on that mounted drive
[10:22] <zer_x252> minimec: T_T thanks for the help, looking like a reinstall ><
[10:22] <Guest23799> any one who has grip in resolution custom wize
[10:22] <lordganesh> how to do port forwarding in kubuntu
[10:22] <minimec> Guest23799: What resolution do you want and what do you get? How do you connect? VGA? DVI? HDMI?
[10:23] <minimec> zer_x252: I would simply create a new user and copy your files to that directory an change the rights with 'chown'...
[10:23] <Guest23799> vga,i need 1024x768 resolution i  am having present 800x600 and 600x480
[10:23] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I can't find my "drive_id"
[10:24] <Guest23799> minimec : vga,i need 1024x768 resolution i  am having present 800x600 and 600x480
[10:24] <lordganesh> how to schedule tasks in ubuntu
[10:24] <minimec> Guest23799: Did you ever have an approriate resoultion with that screen? With other OS or version of ubuntu?
[10:25] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: if you've mounted the drive (like you said earlier), you can check its location by looking at the output of the command 'mount'
[10:25] <digitalchemist> !cron | lordganesh
[10:26] <Guest23799> minimec : yes in os i am fine resolution
[10:26] <Guest23799> minimec : yes in windows os its fine
[10:27] <minimec> Guest23799: Can you do an lspci in a gnome-terminal and pastebin me the results?
[10:27] <Guest23799> minimec : ya sure
[10:28] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : the file is hidden under termial
[10:28] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: so you've found your home directory?
[10:29] <zer_x252> minimec: exactly what do you mean by chowning a new user directory?
[10:29] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : yes but when I list it doesn't show the hidden .gconf
[10:29] <grawity> ubuntuuser: ls -a
[10:29] <Guest23799> minimec : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4b03540e
[10:29] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: minimec: this might be relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068673
[10:30] <ubuntuuser> thanks grawity
[10:30] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yeah, what grawity said ...
[10:30] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am in now at .xml
[10:30] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : what should I do next ?
[10:30] <zer_x252> minimec: I also found this in syslog: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m40067033
[10:30] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: which .xml ?   .gconf should be a folder
[10:31] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: mine has the folders apps, desktop, and system
[10:31] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : %gconf.xml
[10:31] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: type cd .gconf
[10:31] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: I'm not sure where you are ... give me the output of 'pwd'
[10:31] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : cd gconf.xml
[10:32] <X-Sleepy-X> not .xml
[10:32] <minimec> zer_x252: in a console 'sudo adduser zer_x252-new', then login as zer_x252-new, then copy your important data to that new user directory. Your files will then still have the old user as owner of the file, wich means that you cannot modify them. That's why you should do 'chown' afterwards.
[10:33] <Guest23799> minimec : did u get my log
[10:33] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : bash: cd: %gconf.xml: Not a directory
[10:33] <zer_x252> minimec: ah, i see, I'm looking into GDM not starting properly now
[10:33] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yeah, you can't really cd into a non-directory
[10:34] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : so what should I do ?
[10:34] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: try cd $HOME/.gconf
[10:34] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: where are you? what does 'pwd' say
[10:34]  * grawity sighs
[10:34] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: that won't work ... he's in a live session trying to repair his gnome-panel configuration files
[10:34] <X-Sleepy-X> oh sry
[10:34] <two> WIT GRAVY
[10:35] <minimec> Guest23799: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161021
[10:35] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: he's mounted his harddrive and is supposedly somewhere close to /media/the_disk/home/his_name/.gconf
[10:35] <X-Sleepy-X> i see
[10:35] <GUmby> hi all, just booted to the livecd and I keep getting ubiquity errors right after the partition gets formatted
[10:35] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am in on .gconfig
[10:35] <GUmby> anyone know what I might do to fix this?
[10:36] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : but I can't access the xml
[10:36] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: just to get us on the same page, cd to your user folder on the mounted drive
[10:36] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : there are 2 files %gconf.xml  and gnome
[10:37] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: weird but ok ... is there 'session' under gnome?
[10:37] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : there are accessibility  background  font_rendering  interface	session applications   file_views  %gconf.xml	   peripherals
[10:38] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: very good! go into session
[10:38] <super-mario> ciao
[10:38] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I am in there are 2 files (%gconf.xml  required_components)
[10:39] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: try 'less %gconf.xml' ... does it have anything in it?
[10:40] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : type "less %gconf.xml" but it came out                   \%gconf.xml (END)
[10:41] <jurisz> how to migrate cron jobs from one ubuntu instance to another?
[10:41] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: let me check on something .. brb
[10:41] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: it might be easier to guide him without the live session?
[10:41] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: I think he can't log into his regular install   :-)
[10:41] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: not even with ctrl+alt+f1?
[10:42] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: to get the cli
[10:42] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: I think it's graphical that gives the problem. I'm trying to disable gnome-panel from loading ... either that or deleting gnome-panel's configuration files ... but the gconf files don't seem to have content, and I'm not sure what gconf-editor is using as its backend
[10:43] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: that'd probably work. then he could use gconf-tool2 to alter the key ...  it's that or trying to chroot from the live session
[10:43] <raj> xorg.conf file lost
[10:43] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: :)
[10:43] <raj> how to regain
[10:44] <digitalchemist> jurisz: crontab -l > ~/cron.old ... then cat ~/cron.old | crontab -
[10:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> sudo apt-get you're screwed
[10:44] <jurisz> tnx
[10:44] <digitalchemist> ShazbotMcNasty: lol
[10:44] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I am really out of idea
[10:44] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I just wanted to restore back my config panel to default .
[10:45] <zer_x252> minimec: strangest thing I've ever seen, I created a new user, went to login to gnome, still won't let me login on regular gnome, but will let me login on gnome failsafe
[10:45] <X-Sleepy-X> raj: it should generate a new one if you log out and back in again
[10:45] <tolpico>  I have installed some emerald themes, but when I apply them in emerald manger, they don't apply. I have even restarted the desktop environment and restarted. Is there anything else I am supposed to do to apply them?
[10:45] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: you'll need to restart to your normal install to try this, so make sure to either write it down or remember it ... I'll make a command that should let you log back in
[10:45] <zer_x252> tolpico try pressing Alt+F2 and typing emerald --replace
[10:46] <minimec> zer_x252: So it is not a gnome-session problem...
[10:46] <zer_x252> minimec: correct, it has to be something else
[10:46] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : so I need to restart back to the system installed ? karmic ?
[10:46] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yes, but not yet
[10:46] <zer_x252> minimec: I assumed it was a session issue since it only occured when attempting to login with one session, but that must not be the case
[10:46] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : ?
[10:47] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: he will give you a command for you to write down, wait
[10:47] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: I'm writing the command that you'll be using ... give me a couple of seconds
[10:47] <minimec> zer_x252: So what could it be.... hmmmm
[10:47] <tolpico> zer_x252, no no effect, still the same
[10:47] <chilli0> Hi how can I get ubuntu to work with xbox 360 ?
[10:47] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: meanwhile, get hold on a pen and some paper
[10:47] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : ok thanks :-)
[10:47] <chilli0> Play music , pics ,movies
[10:47] <zer_x252> minimec: I looked at it being gdm, I tried reinstalling gdm and even completely removing gdm and reinstalling it
[10:48] <raj> need resolution
[10:48] <raj> higher resolution
[10:49] <raj> need help
[10:49] <zer_x252> tolpico, try sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, and then run fusion-icon from applications->System, it will add an icon to your gnome-panel, right-click on it and click Reload Window Manager
[10:49] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: I enable log on xchat now ,
[10:49] <minimec> zer_x252: ok. change <ctrl><alt>F1, login then 'sudo killall gdm', then startx
[10:50] <raj> my xorg.conf is un traceable
[10:50] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: that log will get erased once you reboot the computer
[10:50] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: alright, you'll need to reboot into your karmic install, but don't do the graphical login. Instead, press Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... login to this console and type the command that I'll send in my next message
[10:50] <zer_x252> minimec: should I log out of this session first or no?
[10:50] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: I 'll copy it into a the desktop of my installed system
[10:50] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list -t list --list-type string $(gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list | sed 's/,panel//')
[10:50] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yes, do that
[10:50] <minimec> zer_x252: You can logout the session.
[10:51] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : where should I do thaty?
[10:51] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : here on live cd or login to the system ?
[10:51] <chilli0> Hi how can I get ubuntu to work with xbox 360 ?
[10:51] <chilli0> Play music , pics ,movies
[10:51] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: login to karmic
[10:51] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: with ctrl-alt-f1
[10:52] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: and then paste it in the cli
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: hopefully I am able to boot in
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: ok
[10:52] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: this command will remove gnome-panel from the required startup apps. after that, you should be able to login and use gconf-tool to reset the configuration for gnome-panel ...
[10:52] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: when u see the login screen press ctrl-alt-F1
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: ok
[10:52] <digitalchemist> chilli0: I think mediatomb will do what you're wanting ... a non-free trial software called twonky also can
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : X-Sleepy-X  : log out now
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> brb
[10:53] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: good luck   :-)
[10:53] <zer_x252> minimec: no change still...
[10:53] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : ok ;-)
[10:54] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: thanks for fielding those other questions   :-)
[10:54] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: :)
[10:55] <linuxius> does anyone know a program I can use to display pictures and videos in full screen mode (I want to present pictures and movies from my holidays to relatives...)
[10:55] <linuxius> ?
[10:55] <linuxius> fspot can't handle videos....
[10:55] <digitalchemist> linuxius: all of the players have fullscreen options, I think
[10:55] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: moovida
[10:56] <linuxius> yes, but I always have to switch windows from pictures to movies....
[10:56] <digitalchemist> linuxius: gotcha
[10:56] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: moovida is a media center
[10:56] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: sudo apt-get install moovida
[10:57] <lesshaste> hello all
[10:57] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: that looks really cool. never heard of it before  :-D
[10:57] <linuxius> thanks!!!
[10:57] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: it's nice, formerly called elisa
[10:57] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: or you could go for XBMC
[10:57] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: but then you'd have to add their repository
[10:58] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: ah, that project looked like it had some promise. and this appears to be Python stuff, so that add some cool points
[10:58] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: XBMC = Xbox Media Center
[10:58] <minimec> zer_x252: Any news? I have some problems with the irc server today... ;)
[10:58] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: Yeah, they recently release v.1.0
[10:58] <zer_x252> minimec: nothing changed after killing gdm
[10:58] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: movvida i mean.
[10:59] <X-Sleepy-X> moovida*
[10:59] <minimec> zer_x252: so if you do startx in the terminal... what happens?
[10:59] <zer_x252> minimec: x fails to start due to there being an x session already open, I forget how to kill an x session though /embarassed
[11:01] <zer_x252> minimec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765814&page=2 this seems to be a very similar issue, if i recall, failsafe uses failsafe drivers as well, so I will try and reinstall my proprietary nvidia drivers (currently I am using the cuda-enabled ones, so I will probably reinstall those)
[11:01] <minimec> zer_x252: hmm... ok. try that.
[11:02] <ranjan> how to chake version of any software on ubuntu 9.10 from terminal please help
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> well it depends on what you're trying to get the version of
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> What app do you want the version of
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> ?
[11:03] <X-Sleepy-X> any
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> D:
[11:03] <X-Sleepy-X> ;)
[11:04] <X-Sleepy-X> sudo apt-get install any
[11:04] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: ShazbotMcNasty: I'm not an apt expert, but there's got to be a command to check the version of installed packages ... this seems to be what (s)he wants
[11:04] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: there is, but i cant seem to remember at the moment
[11:05] <subito> -v gives the version of apt :(
[11:05] <Gumby> wow, the alpha release of karmic gave me less install problems than the final has/is
[11:06] <ShazbotMcNasty> well sudo apt-cache search all would probably do it
[11:07] <X-Sleepy-X> ranjan: sudo apt-cache showpkg PACKAGENAMEHERE
[11:07] <digitalchemist> ShazbotMcNasty: X-Sleepy-X: ranjan:  dpkg -s <packagename>
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> look sit's my pretty desktop
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> :http://omploader.org/vMzJ0bA
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> :|
[11:08] <ranjan> X-Sleepy-X :: digitalchemist ::  thanks i got the solution
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> http://omploader.org/vMzJ0bA **
[11:09] <bazhang> ShazbotMcNasty, dont paste that here
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> drats
[11:09] <X-Sleepy-X> ranjan: :)
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'm just bored...
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> I guess I'll go to bed
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> peace
[11:10] <digitalchemist> that's cool looking though
[11:10] <ShazbotMcNasty> thanks
[11:11] <lonejack> hi, problem using pppoeconfig. At the end of procedure I can go on the net but when the system restart I must repeat the pppoeconfig if I want to go on the net.. Any advices?
[11:11] <elzoog> Hey everybody I have a question
[11:12] <digitalchemist> elzoog: go for it
[11:12] <dnivra> lonejack: did you mean pppoeconf?
[11:12] <lonejack> dnivra, yes, sorry
[11:13] <elzoog> First, can you guys see this?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnziG8Lfp88
[11:13] <dnivra> lonejack: no you don't have to repeat pppoeconf everytime to connect. just use "sudo pon dls-provider".
[11:13] <digitalchemist> elzoog: heh, I get that at work ... it has something to do with the avahi service
[11:13] <dnivra> lonejack: or whatever is the name of the file that's there in /etc/ppp/peers
[11:14] <elzoog> It's not just Avahi, it's also that annoying thing above it that I want to get rid of
[11:14] <zer_x252> minimec: I figured out what I did wrong on the step you told me a few tries ago, its sudo killall gdm-binary not sudo killall gdm, after logging in as a user on another terminal and killing gdm, start x brings up gnome perfectly
[11:14] <elzoog> If it weren't for those annoying things, I would go ahead and install Ubuntu on the netbook.   It is a present for my 8 year old daughter
[11:14] <digitalchemist> elzoog: oh, crazy ... the brightness change notifier keeps doing that?
[11:15] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it's a live session?
[11:15] <zer_x252> minimec: so it looks like it was a gdm issue afterall?
[11:15] <elzoog> Digital:  Yep, it does it on the live USB, and it also does it if I install Ubuntu on the hard drive (I know, I tried it, then uninstalled Ubuntu because of that reason)
[11:16] <elzoog> Digital:  Is that what that is, the brightness change notifier?
[11:16] <digitalchemist> elzoog: so much for that. was wondering if it'd be isolated to the live session ... have you tried playing with the brightness keys on the laptop at all ... maybe something is stuck?
[11:16] <lonejack> dnivra, at certain moment when I launch pppoecconf, it ask me if I want to start the connection at startup. This doesn't work
[11:16] <X-Sleepy-X> just uninstall the notifying package
[11:16] <digitalchemist> elzoog: that's what it looks like to me
[11:17] <digitalchemist> elzoog: yeah, you could sudo apt-get remove libnotify
[11:17] <elzoog> Digital:  Ok, let me try that.  What happens is that comes up for a few minutes after I boot.  Then it goes away
[11:17] <dnivra> lonejack: that's not the connection; that's the pppd daemon i think. the connection is never started on startup I assure you.
[11:17] <zer_x252> elzoog: you could sudo cat the keyboard device to see if a key is stuck
[11:17] <freeride> please advice kde3 repository. I use Karmic
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> freeride:  what? Kde is in the normal repos.
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <lonejack> Probably that's was my mistake. So what I have to do is: pppoeconf, then at startup launch "sudo pon dls-provider"
[11:20] <dnivra> lonejack: dsl-provider sorry "sudo pon dsl-provider". yeah just do this command to start. and "sudo poff -a" to stop the connection
[11:20] <elzoog> What does sudo apt-get remove libnotify  do?
[11:20] <vfen> merry xmas
[11:21] <dnivra> lonejack: note that "dsl-provider" is the name of a file in /etc/ppp/peers; just verify it is the file. you can open the file and see if your DSL username and password is there in the file.
[11:21] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it'll remove the notification package ... the program that's showing any of those popups
[11:21] <zer_x252> elzoog: removes the ubuntu libnotify utility, it creates the notification popups in the upper right-hand corner
[11:21] <lonejack> dnivra, thank you a lot
[11:21] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it's kind of a shotgun approach, but it'd get rid of the popups   :-D
[11:21] <Gumby> does anyone know if it is possible to use a livecd.iso, mount it, and run the installer from it?
[11:21] <dnivra> lonejack: sure thing. no problem. glad I could help out:).
[11:21] <elzoog> Also, is it possible to run the updater, put it on the USB, then install linux with everything updated already?
[11:21] <zer_x252> Gumby: probably, there is an install from windows option, which is essentially just that
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Gumby:   if you wish to install ubuntu from within another OS. you can also use the 'debootstrap' method.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> !install
[11:23] <digitalchemist> elzoog: there's probably a way ... I remember hearing about a project which lets you make your own live cds off of a customized install
[11:23] <zer_x252> Anybody else have insight on the ongoing issue of not being able to login to my regular gnome-session, I can login to failsafe fine, and my regular session logs in if I kill gdm (pointing the finger at GDM)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252: clarify what happens when you do try to login?
[11:23] <Gumby> Dr_Willis, my problem is this..  the cd I burned will boot, but the installer keeps failing telling me that it cant read from the disk.  I only has the one blank CD.  So I was thinking of trying to mount the iso which is still on the hard disk on a partition I wont be erasing and then run the installer from inside a chroot (if that makes any sense)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  you could remove/move all the gnome setting files and see if that clears it up
[11:24] <digitalchemist> elzoog: maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[11:24] <mat619> Hey folks! I need an application to put exif tags on photos and search/browse them by those tags... F-Spot could do this afaik but I have the problem described in Bug 286544 and can therefore not use it. Any alternatives that can do this job?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Gumby:  I always just use unetbootin, or the usb-creator tool to make bootabel flash drives.  Ive never used debootstrap or any other fancier ways to install.
[11:24] <elzoog> Also, should I bother to make the netbook dual boot?   I definitely want winbugs XP because any software my 8 year old daughter is likely to have will be winbugs software.  But I don't know how a typical 8 year old child would react to linux
[11:25] <Gumby> Dr_Willis, yeah, I dont have my usb stick with me either. hehe
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  thers googles picassa2 or watever its called.. (i dont do muich of that stuff)
[11:25] <digitalchemist> elzoog: no harm in it
[11:25] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: if GDM is running and I attempt to login to my normal gnome session, I get the Nvidia splash screen for about a half second and then it brings me back to gdm; so far I have done ~/.gnome2, ~/.gnome2-private, ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, reinstalled graphics drivers, creating a new user account
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Gumby:  Id suggest just waiting till you get a flash drive.  Unetbootin i Hear can also do a 'frugal' type install to a partion of a hard disk. but thats not a normal install. thats more of a live-cd type install.
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  so your X session is basically crashing.
[11:26] <mat619> Dr_Willis: ok i should've added "except picasa" because it's a) overblown with features for what i want to do and b) a piece of google software which I'm skeptical about
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  a NEWly made user account also has the same issue?
[11:26] <zer_x252> Dr_willis: basically, however I get no indication of such in logs
[11:26] <elzoog> Digital:  Which is better for a netbook, Ubuntu netbook remix, or Ubuntu desktop?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  good luck then.
[11:26] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it's pretty easy to do ... from your live environment, use gparted to resize the Windows partition. Then you can install Ubuntu on the freed remaining space. It'll use grub as the bootloader, so you'll be able to easily choose between Windows and Ubuntu ... but make sure to make a copy of your MBR in case you want to remove Ubuntu/Grub and go back to pure windows
[11:26] <BinaryMan> Dr_Willis: Try using failsafe gnome?
[11:26] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: yes, and NEWLY created user suffers from the same issue
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  either one will work.  I tend to install the UNR then install ubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <elzoog> Digital:  I know how to do it.  I've probably done it more than a thousand times.
[11:27] <digitalchemist> elzoog: give netbook remix a try. they've come a long way, and it's quite nice now. Worst case scenario, you can change a setting in UNR and get the normal desktop
[11:27] <digitalchemist> elzoog: well, you never know   :-)
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> BinaryMan:  that points to some driver issue.  or compiz issue. as a test try installing some other window maanger like 'flwm' or 'icewm' see if the users can loging to those correctly. The fact that failsafe works.. is.. interesting and points to it might being a compiz or fancy gnome feature issue
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  the netbook remix also may be tweaked a little more for the devices.
[11:29] <elzoog> Since the drive is 160 GB, I guess I will make 40 GB space for Ubuntu.  Since she would probably use Windows most of the time whereas she might only try Ubuntu
[11:29] <zer_x252> Dr_Willies: I have compiz installed, but its on a delayed startup script I wrote so I could easily weed it out, I'll try another WM, but if I can login to those what should my next step be?
[11:29] <BinaryMan> Dr_Willis: Have you only looked at the logs? Does 'dmesg' spit back anything interesting?
[11:29] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis*
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> BinaryMan:  its zer_x252  having the issues. :)
[11:29] <zer_x252> BinaryMan: I think you have me and Dr_Willies confused, I had the login issues :P
[11:29] <BinaryMan> whoops
[11:29] <zer_x252> =D
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  i would try disabling compiz totally.
[11:30] <BinaryMan> chat scrolled while I was reading and thought the doctor was having the problems.
[11:30] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: completely remove? or just disabling it?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  also  theres some login mode that goes to just a xterminal, with no wm/desktop  and try 'gnome-session' from there. looking for error messages in the terminal window
[11:30] <BinaryMan> disable it
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  i always just disable it.
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> I like fusion-icon for that job.
[11:30] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I already have it disabled and fusion-icon =D
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  try gnome-session, see if it gives any clues
[11:31] <elzoog> Besides, my copy of Windows is slightly bootlegged.   I downloaded the ISO off of bittorrent, then used the XP key that I bought online.   I think though, that since I paid for it, I should be allowed to install it on any computer I want.  But Windows seems to want me to buy a key every time I put it on a different computer
[11:31] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I even have it disabled on boot, and a script to start it about 15 seconds after boot and spit any errors at me :D
[11:31] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: okay, I'll give it a shot
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  thats how the EULA from MS works... :)
[11:32] <BinaryMan> I shall refrain from my own opinions on Microsoft's EULA and just exactly where they can stick it.
[11:32] <elzoog> Yeah, it's stupid.   I did a hack to make sure that the Windows XP I put on the netbook won't check to be authentic.
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Netbooks are basically the only reason that XP is even still around right now. MS brought Xp back from the brink of death to counter the Linux On Netbooks assault. :)
[11:33] <elzoog> So what would happen if my hard drive crashes and I install a different hard drive?    Would MS want me to buy a key again?
[11:33] <digitalchemist> elzoog: they'd want you to buy new keys whatever the occasion   :-)
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Saw a larger netbook on sale that had Win7 on it. the store' computer dude' said it wasent a 'netbook' because it has a larger screen...  *told him that was MS marketing/licening propaganda* and he looked at me funny.
[11:34] <elzoog> Digital:  So that means if I get up out of my chair to take a piss, and come back to the computer 5 minutes later, they would want me to buy another key?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  i dont think the XP licening stuff gets activated with just a HD change.
[11:34] <digitalchemist> elzoog: yes. it's a different point in space-time, so you should get authorization for each new quantum
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  #windows would be able to tell you when it gets triggered. I was thinking it was like 3 major hardwaare change's
[11:35] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I was unable to login to xterm to see if gnome-session worked, it did the exact same thing as logging into non failsafe gnome does
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  now thats very weird.
[11:36] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: could it be gdm itself?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:   You could go old skool..   disable gdm. . make a .xinitrc file with the line. 'exec xterm'  and use 'startx'  then test from there.
[11:36] <digitalchemist> elzoog: I recently installed Windows 7 on a computer then decided to not use it. Instead, I wanted it on another computer. Installed it on the new one but it refused to activate. Called them up and they reactivated, no questions asked. The process kinda sucks, but whatever
[11:36] <r3d2_> Note to self: Get a doctorate and don't add Dr. to the prefix of my tag.
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  it seems odd that gdm works.. but gnome dosent..     You tried flwm yet or icewm?
[11:36] <elzoog> Dr_Willis:  The point is, if the hard drive crashes then all of that data is lost (except for the key, which I stored somewhere).   So that would mean if I install a hard drive, and use the old key and then go online to try to authenticate it, it has already been authenticated plus the hardware changed.
[11:36] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: no, I'll whip one of those out real quick
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  deoending on the tile btween activations it can get tagged as invalid.
[11:37] <digitalchemist> elzoog: the auto/online activation will probably fail ... but they'll probably honor it on the phone
[11:37] <chadi> after I updated my ubuntu, when I boot my computer, grub shows: GRUB _ < with this underscore turning on and off and it hangs. What's wrong? I can't do anything now :/
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  yea  - i like flwm for light wm's :)
[11:37] <BinaryMan> elzoog: At that point, you have to call Microsoft. I've had to do it before.
[11:37] <FANDER> guys, there's something that annoys me too much. I want to be able to "send" photos from my mobile to ubuntu using bluetooth, but I want the sending procedure to happen from the mobile, i.e to select the computer from the mobile and send the file. Did you understand what I mean?
[11:37] <BinaryMan> and they do honor it, after about 10 minutes worth of questions.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:   You should call MS and wish them happy new year anyway...
[11:38] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X : hi , it doesn't work
[11:38] <digitalchemist> BinaryMan: I've only done it once, and the only question I got asked was the 3,000 digit activation number
[11:38] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it does'nt work
[11:38] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: what happens?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> I imagine very soon XP will be totally dead.. and it wont latter elzoog
[11:39] <digitalchemist> FANDER: okay ... makes sense, what's the problem?
[11:39] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it just said directory something , i tried numerous times it still doesn't work
[11:39] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i dont know how to explain
[11:39] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: the command worked but you still can't log on?
[11:40] <elzoog> Dr_Willis:  Problem is, what will replace XP?   Vista sucks (I have that on my laptop).  I haven't heard many good things about Windows 7
[11:40] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am able to login , pressting F1 but it said cannot find
[11:40] <digitalchemist> elzoog: Windows 7 is very good, surprisingly enough
[11:40] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I let you see my problem.
[11:40] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: k
[11:40] <BinaryMan> digitalchemist: I was calling in regards to XP Corporate which uses VLKs, which are pirated often.
[11:41] <FANDER> digitalchemist: the problem is that for example I want to send the contacts to my PC and that can happens only by sending it from Mobile to PC. I can't access the contacts saved in the mobile from the file browser. THis is one problem
[11:41] <FANDER> so is there a solution?
[11:41] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : my top and bottom panel all missing , I can't right click at all
[11:41] <chadi> after I updated my ubuntu, when I boot my computer, grub shows: GRUB _ < with this underscore turning on and off and it hangs. What's wrong? I can't do anything now :/ Please help me guys, I am unable to access any OS!
[11:41] <elzoog> Digital:  Well, Windows XP seems stable enough, which is proof of the supernatural since it would require a supernatural force to make Windows stable.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  win7 is replaceing xp. Thats MS's decision basically
[11:41] <digitalchemist> BinaryMan: ahh, too bad I lost my VLK ... that was a nice time
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  wont matter how stable xp used to be. I am finding more and more new hardware that has no xp drivers.
[11:41] <BinaryMan> It was a legit one that kept flagging back as invalid.
[11:41] <digitalchemist> chadi: it hangs ... ?
[11:41] <chadi> yeah
[11:42] <digitalchemist> FANDER: it's possible. I've done it before.
[11:42] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it's like can't access terminal , synaptic all function cannot be access via panel . I can't do anything except F1 terminal and browse through files
[11:42] <chadi> digitalchemist it stops responding
[11:42] <digitalchemist> elzoog: I'll have to start going to church then!
[11:42] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I flwm works
[11:42] <FANDER> digitalchemist: Ok how?
[11:42] <puffs> chadi, there was nothing that could help me
[11:42] <elzoog> Of course if I update to Windows 7, that would mean buying another key
[11:42] <puffs> had to format koala
[11:42] <chadi> digitalchemist: like, the "underscore" keeps flashing but it just stops
[11:43] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : did you recieve my file picture ?
[11:43] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: should I go ahead and try gnome-session from xinit?
[11:43] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: no, I didn't see anything come across
[11:43] <chadi> puffs how can I explain more? it's not a system crash, it's a grub failure apparently
[11:43] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: link?
[11:43] <FANDER> chadi: كيفك ابو الشدود
[11:43] <elzoog> I'm surprised more people haven't jumped ship and switched to Ubuntu.
[11:43] <FANDER> sorry
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  from .xinitrc   yea. that would be a good test. and you will get messages in the console.
[11:43] <puffs> chadi, i know, i had the same problem :)
[11:43] <ubuntuuser> --- Offering Screenshot.png to digitalchemist
[11:43] <digitalchemist> FANDER: click the bluetooth indicator on the panl
[11:43] <ubuntuuser> why it doesn't ?
[11:44] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: okay, I will be back in a sec
[11:44] <digitalchemist> chadi: no clue, you don't even get a grub command prompt?
[11:44] <chadi> digitalchemist nope :/
[11:44] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: not sure ... I'm using empathy
[11:44] <BinaryMan> chadi: Do you still have the LiveCD?
[11:44] <chadi> BinaryMan yeah, it's thre right now and I am trying to figure it out
[11:44] <digitalchemist> chadi: I've never encountered this ... I don't think I can be any help
[11:45] <FANDER> digitalchemist: OK?
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> I think we need to get zer. to install a console irc client...
[11:45] <BinaryMan> chadi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:45] <digitalchemist> FANDER: let me get my adapter so I can see what to do
[11:45] <puffs> chadi, you upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, right?
[11:45] <BinaryMan> chadi: it's not exactly the problem your having, but it should fix it.
[11:45] <chadi> digitalchemist I am going to grub install again: grub-install /dev/sda5
[11:45] <BinaryMan> chadi: and it'll explain how in much more clarity than I can provide here.
[11:45] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I'm back, in the gnome-session i start in xterm
[11:46] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: seems this is gdm then?
[11:46] <digitalchemist> chadi: that's a good first step   :-)
[11:46] <chadi> I should have said that grub is not my MBR
[11:46] <digitalchemist> chadi: gotcha, a reinstall should fix it then
[11:46] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7347/screenshotvd.png please help
[11:46] <dxy> i just installed 9.10 it doesnt ask for the root password? what is default?
[11:47] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am getting sleepy now , going soon , I really out of idea
[11:47] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: sudo killall gnome-panel
[11:47] <digitalchemist> FANDER: click the indicator, the go to setup new device ... you'll need you phone in discoverable mode ... this should let you pair the device. Once that's done, your transfer should work
[11:47] <lstarnes> dxy: there is no default root password.  root is also locked by default
[11:47] <chadi> great, it worked! :D
[11:47] <OpenSorce> dxy, no... use sudo
[11:47] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : I can't even access terminal at gui
[11:48] <Joe__> hmm... it looks like my firefox profile got corrupted, is there anyway I can figure out exactly what it is so I can try and save as much as possible?
[11:48] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : the only way I can access is through ctrl+alt+f1
[11:48] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: I've seen that happen before ... but mine was fixed by restarting
[11:48] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: does Alt+F2 bring up a prompt?
[11:48] <BinaryMan> chadi: good to hear.
[11:48] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : never tried that
[11:48] <BlouBlou> dxy: root password is the same that your administrator account
[11:48] <digitalchemist> Does anyone know the dpkg command to reconfigure a package? that might help ubuntuuser
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  yea. Not sure what the deal would be.. one other way to test.. stop the gdm service.. as root in a console run just 'gdm'  see if any error messages show up. :) and also.. Install an console based irc client like weechat or irssi so you dont have to keep  loging in/out of here. :)
[11:48] <chadi> puffs nope, clean install of 9.10, just did an update. digitalchemist and BinaryMan: thank you both :)
[11:48] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : will restart and tried it
[11:49] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : will restart and try it alt+f2
[11:49] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : sorry I am new
[11:49] <dxy> OpenSorce thanks man i found it
[11:49] <ubuntuuser> brb
[11:49] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: should it be gdm or gdm-binary?
[11:49] <FANDER> digitalchemist: no no this is not my problem. I know how to make pairing. The problem is that my phone can't see my PC when I want to send files to PC. But when I click browse file on the device, it works!!!
[11:49] <FANDER> digitalchemist: my PC is discoverable
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  just gdm i think.. Not really suire with 9.10
[11:50] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: seems they are interchangable, at least from the output I get when trying to start it with x in use
[11:50] <digitalchemist> FANDER: does your phone need to do a similar process of pairing?
[11:50] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: will try that and be back in a sec
[11:50] <BinaryMan> chadi: Imagine that happening on a lab with 25 workstations. You'd be amazed at the amount of GRUB problems that end up happening and I have to fix.
[11:50] <digitalchemist> FANDER: when I was using my Palm, I think I had to make sure the computer was an authorized device before I could send to it
[11:51] <FANDER> digitalchemist: mmm...maybe this is my problem, I'll try that
[11:51] <digitalchemist> FANDER: yeah, see if your phone has some sort of bluetooth configuration steps for devices ... some kind of pairing/authorization list
[11:52] <chadi> BinaryMan: wow. btw, maybe I had to let grub take the MBR. But I chose windows boot manager to load grub. WE'll see later
[11:53] <jubilem> hello folks - anybody using 9.10 on ThinkPad X40?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Grub Fu Skills are strong with this one!
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:54] <digitalchemist> jubilem: no, what's the problem?
[11:55] <jubilem> couple of.. first the screen does not lid after sleep, and secondly harddrive seems to be parking continuosly
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> jubilem:  check the ubuntu forums yet? i was thinking the Thinkpad had its own 'section' at one time.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Been thinking about getting a thinkpad for my next laptop...
[11:56] <jubilem> checked those month ago.. there were some hack arounds which did not help me
[11:56] <jubilem> I'll check again, anyway
[11:57] <BinaryMan> I'm off to bed again. Night all.
[11:57] <digitalchemist> BinaryMan: good night, merry christmas
[11:57] <BinaryMan> Or early morning. It's already 7am.
[11:57] <BinaryMan> digitalchemist: thanks, you too.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> jubilem:  the hd parking was an issue a few released ago  I recall some hdparm commands 'fixed' it for my old laptop.
[11:59] <voss> hello
[12:00] <voss> is there anyone who may want help me?
[12:00] <dnivra> hello voss; merry christmas:).
[12:00] <dnivra> !ask | voss
[12:00] <digitalchemist> voss: depends what you have
[12:00] <voss> thanks.. :) same to you
[12:00] <voss> well...
[12:00] <voss> downloaded and installed savage2
[12:00] <voss> ubntu NR 9.10
[12:00] <dnivra> (oh yeah that goes for whoever wasn't there when I wished 17 hours ago:))
[12:01] <jubilem> Dr_Willis: right. just did a update which did not help, assumed those were fixed but apperantly not.. more googling to be done...
[12:01] <voss> and when i ./savage2.bin to play
[12:01] <digitalchemist> dnivra: thanks then, you too   :-)
[12:01] <Jork> Hello guys
[12:01] <voss> there is: bash: ./savage2.bin: Permission denied
[12:01] <voss> chmod +x savage2.bin doesnt help
[12:01] <dnivra> voss: try "sudo ./savage2.bin"
[12:02] <voss> doesnt help
[12:02] <Jork> Are they needed 32libs for installing wine in x64 ubuntu?
[12:02] <dnivra> voss: just a guess that's all:).
[12:02] <digitalchemist> voss: chown?
[12:02] <minimec> voss: I guess you have to make the savage2 file exetutable. go into the preferences of the file in the filemanager
[12:03] <voss> chown too
[12:03] <jasman> !port
[12:03] <voss> sorry i have to go now... i'll be later
[12:03] <voss> :) cya
[12:04] <dnivra> hey digitalchemist any guesses on what could be the reason voss' problem if sudo or chown didn't work?
[12:04] <FANDER> digitalchemist: This issue is driving me crazy! I can see my PC in my phone's bluetooth list, but when I try to send something, i don't see it!
[12:04] <digitalchemist> dnivra: no, that's why I'm glad he left    :-D
[12:04] <FANDER> digitalchemist: i even tried it with Nokia devices
[12:04] <FANDER> digitalchemist: I have SE K750i
[12:04] <tstebut> hello
[12:04] <dnivra> digitalchemist: same here :-D
[12:05] <dnivra> !hello | tstebut
[12:05] <tstebut> I'm using a samba server with ldap backend as domain server
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> FANDER:  ive never managed to 'send' to the phone either.. I can send from the phone to the pc..  but ive never managed to browse the phone, or send toit. i also recall having to use th Phone to initiate the pairing, Not the PC.
[12:05] <tstebut> Hi dnivra
[12:05] <tstebut> Merry Xmas
[12:05] <tstebut> If you do it or not ;)
[12:05] <dnivra> tstebut: actually that was a general thing from all here:). same to you.
[12:06] <tstebut> Yesterday night did I get huge help configure samba
[12:06] <tstebut> :)
[12:06] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I tried the gdm thing
[12:06] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m6d9d6e12
[12:06] <jasman> how do I close a port? I see there are open ports on my compute
[12:07] <digitalchemist> Dr_Willis: it sounds like he's able to see the PC from the phone but unable to see the PC when trying to send a file from the phone
[12:07] <tstebut> Okay, now I'd like to find a way to verify may samba server properly acts as Wins server
[12:07] <iceroot> jasman: they are open because an application is needing them. what port exactly?
[12:07] <jasman> 9003
[12:07] <vadi01> whats the svn prog for ubuntu called?
[12:07] <FANDER> digitalchemist: exactly
[12:07] <zer_x252> vadi01: subversion
[12:08] <iceroot> vadi01: subversion
[12:09] <minimec> FANDER: I can confirm your problem using a SE w300i.
[12:09] <duffydack> anyone running a win7 vm in virtualbox with 3d enabled, and running ok?
[12:09] <iceroot> duffydack: ##windows
[12:09] <iceroot> jasman: strange, that is not an assigned port
[12:09] <FANDER> minimec: good :D
[12:10] <digitalchemist> FANDER: minimec: maybe the computer isn't exposing the right profiles, so the device doesn't think its capable of receiving files?
[12:10] <duffydack> a simple yes/no isnt too hard...
[12:10] <FANDER> digitalchemist: I'm trying to send pictures also!
[12:11] <iceroot> duffydack: this is ubuntu support, not windows support
[12:11] <FANDER> digitalchemist: profiles? what profiles?
[12:11] <digitalchemist> duffydack: null. I'm not running any of that, so no troubles to report.
[12:11] <dnm> merry xams every one
[12:11] <duffydack> digitalchemist, ok thanks anyway.. nevermind i`ll try it anyway..
[12:12] <dnm> can any one help me with setting up my wireless on ubuntu
[12:12] <digitalchemist> FANDER: bluetooth profiles ... I don't know much about them, but they advertise types of functionality ... whether something is an audio device, a hands-free headset, or whatever else they can be
[12:12] <digitalchemist> dnm: there's probably someone that can ...   :-)
[12:12] <FANDER> digitalchemist: OK so?
[12:12] <minimec> FANDER: digitalchemist: The karmic bluetooth implementation is exellent, compared to previous ones. Everything is working out of the box, besides that 'send file' phone-->computer.
[12:13] <dnm> digitalchemist: i have a bsnl broadband connection
[12:13] <dnm> digitalchemist: n am struggling to get it done
[12:13] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[12:13] <digitalchemist> dnm: no idea, so that someone might not be me ... but what's the problem?
[12:13] <FANDER> minimec: The problem happened with me since ubuntu 8.10
[12:14] <FANDER> minimec: It was working with Hardy
[12:14] <digitalchemist> FANDER: I'll see if my Palm can still do it
[12:14] <dnm> digitalchemist: he he he k ... well it reads the connection but i m not sure how to configure it
[12:14] <dto> i used Palimpsest to format a hard drive, and it will mount it, but how do i set it up to automount every boot?
[12:14] <adam587> hi
[12:14] <FANDER> digitalchemist: don't you have a mobile phone?
[12:14] <adam587> i nded help pls
[12:15] <digitalchemist> dto: edit /etc/fstab and add an entry for the drive ... specify 'auto' in the options column
[12:15] <FANDER> adam587: what's the problem?
[12:15] <dto> digitalchemist: ah cool :)
[12:15] <dnivra> dnm: could you elaborate a bit?
[12:16] <digitalchemist> FANDER: yeah, but it's an iPhone ... it's jailbroken with the user BTstack, but I don't have anything that would let me make use of that functionality, I don't think.
[12:16] <adam587> silly think i have live cd now tring to instal ubuntu 9.1 ....i have partition win C and win D want to change win C to linux dont know how to do that with live cd instaler
[12:16] <iceroot> adam587: ubuntu is giving you that option in the installer menu
[12:17] <dnivra> adam587: it's 9.10 not 9.1:).
[12:17] <digitalchemist> adam587: that'll probably be /dev/sda1
[12:17] <FANDER> adam587: what win C and win D??!!! plz write good English
[12:17] <clemens_> hallo
[12:17] <Daughain> Has anyone run across install errors when using Ubuntu Software Center in Karmic?
[12:17] <iceroot> FANDER: plz is also no good english
[12:17] <adam587> yeap but ubuntu 9.10 want to clean my whole disc and i want to change only win C into linux its 15 gb size
[12:17] <iceroot> Daughain: no
[12:18] <FANDER> iceroot: :-[
[12:18] <digitalchemist> iceroot: "no good english" is also not good English
[12:18] <dnm> dnivra: well it is reading the wireless network but i cant get connected to it
[12:18] <Daughain> iceroot; Ok, so this is unique to me, great.
[12:18] <FANDER> digitalchemist: heheheh thanks man
[12:18] <clemens_> wie kann ich einen chat-server installieren
[12:18] <digitalchemist> FANDER:   O:-)
[12:18] <dnivra> dnm: did you try to connect using network manager?
[12:18] <adam587> exaclly SDA1 want to change into linux .....dont want to move sda2 at all
[12:18] <dnm> dnivra: on windows i had to configure but now dont know how to do it on ubuntu
[12:18] <iceroot> digitalchemist: :)
[12:18] <digitalchemist> :-)
[12:19] <FANDER> :-D
[12:19] <dnivra> dnm: when you right click the network manager, do you see the connection listed?
[12:19] <digitalchemist> adam587: choose manual when it comes to the partitioning step
[12:19] <dnivra> dnm: left clikc sorry left click
[12:19] <Daughain> Ok, can someone tell me how to display my core temps?
[12:19] <dnm> dnivra: yup
[12:19] <zer_x252> Dr_Willy: This is mind-boggling
[12:19] <digitalchemist> adam587: you'll be able to choose that partition and use it as '/'
[12:19] <iceroot> Daughain: lm-sensors
[12:19] <adam587> i was there but there are some options such as ext2 ext 3 etc what to do?
[12:19] <FANDER> ok guys what about my bluetooth problem?
[12:19] <lstarnes> Daughain: if lm-sensors is installed, use the command sensors
[12:20] <zer_x252> iceroot: unless he's in karmic, which regressed lm-sensors
[12:20] <Znuff> Hi there! How would I change the running level on Karmic?
[12:20] <lstarnes> adam587: if it's going to be used as your main partition for linux, use ext3 or ext4
[12:20] <dnivra> dnm: when you left click on NM and click on the connection, doesn't it connection?
[12:20] <iceroot> zer_x252: karmic changed so much stuff...
[12:20] <Daughain> I'm running karmic x64, if that makes a difference.
[12:20] <digitalchemist> FANDER: keep getting distracted, trying to set up my device and see if it even works
[12:20] <FANDER> Znuff: running level? what do you mean?
[12:21] <zer_x252> iceroot: indeed, was sad to see my i7 temperatures drop off my conky O.o
[12:21] <digitalchemist> Znuff: maybe telinit?
[12:21] <Znuff> FANDER, run level, init 1, init 2, init 3, init 4, init 5, init 6... what we used to have before ubuntu changed everything :P
[12:21] <digitalchemist> Znuff: FANDER: yeah, that System V stuff is getting replaced by Upstart
[12:21] <Daughain> iceroot; ok, how do I get the values to displayon the desktop?
[12:21] <muzy> Hello everyone, i have some troubles..I deleted /var/cache/apt/ and now apt does not work anymore (even aptitude does not work) how to fix this issue
[12:21] <Znuff> so telinit is the replacement for system v init stuff?
[12:21] <FANDER> Znuff: I have never heard about that before!
[12:21] <zer_x252> Daughain: conky
[12:21] <lstarnes> Znuff: no...
[12:22] <lstarnes> Znuff: telinit has always been used for sysv runlevel switching
[12:22] <r3d2_> muzy> Recreate dirs?
[12:22] <digitalchemist> Znuff: no, but telinit appears to let you change the runlevel
[12:22] <Daughain> zer_x252; Tha dont help.
[12:22] <dnivra> muzy: did you delete the folder /var/cache/apt or it's contents?
[12:22] <Znuff> so how do I change it with upstart?
[12:22] <lstarnes> Znuff: did you try to use that?
[12:22] <muzy> dnivra, both
[12:22] <zer_x252> Daughain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[12:22] <Znuff> lstarnes, doesn't seem to be doing anything
[12:22] <FANDER> digitalchemist: I want to read about running level in wikipedia, what should I search for? "running level" didn't work
[12:22] <digitalchemist> Znuff: you won't really be able to. The Upstart system replaces the sysv approach. It's more general and usable ultimately
[12:23] <lstarnes> FANDER: runlevel
[12:23] <zer_x252> Daughain: that thread has about a million conky configurations for you to look through, you have to piece together yourself the way you want it to look ;)
[12:23] <Daughain> zer_x252; Thanks.
[12:23] <llutz> muzy: sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt
[12:23] <dnivra> muzy: i'm not sure but just create a new /var/cache/apt folder. then open synaptic and click "Reload" on the top left corner. should work.
[12:23] <r3d2_> FANDER "linux runlevel"
[12:23] <digitalchemist> FANDER: I'll get you a link ... but it'll come at the cost of another interruption to setting up my device   :-P
[12:23] <llutz> muzy: sudo apt-get update
[12:23] <FANDER> digitalchemist: no I found it :)
[12:23] <digitalchemist> FANDER: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[12:23] <muzy> llutz, he told me that "/var/cache/apt/archives/partial" is missing
[12:24] <Znuff> So I can't do like a "soft-reboot" that we used to do with init 1, then init 3?
[12:24] <digitalchemist> FANDER: just a little time wasted then   :-D
[12:24] <r3d2_> digitalchemist, I'll buy you a beautiful dress, but the cost is a dance..
[12:24] <FANDER> digitalchemist: SETUP YOUR DEVICE :D
[12:24] <llutz> muzy: sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[12:24] <digitalchemist> Znuff: there'll be an event that can do that
[12:24] <digitalchemist> r3d2_: hahaha!
[12:24] <Emry> How does a person get rubygems in 9.10?
[12:24] <Daughain> zer_x252; That thread dont make sense to me. Raw newb here. :P
[12:24] <r3d2_> grins
[12:24] <FANDER> r3d2_: hahahha
[12:24] <dnivra> llutz: are archives & partial also needed?
[12:24] <FANDER> r3d2_: you are the man!
[12:25] <muzy> thanks llutz now it works
[12:25] <dnivra> llutz: won't they be automatically created by apt?
[12:25] <llutz> dnivra: it seems
[12:25] <llutz> dnivra: [13:23:58] <muzy> llutz, he told me that "/var/cache/apt/archives/partial" is missing
[12:25] <lstarnes> Znuff: initctl might have something to do with it
[12:25] <zer_x252> Daughain: I remember those days :D I wanted a conky on my desktop so bad LOL http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html
[12:25] <dnivra> llutz: oh missed that since I cleared scrollback:).
[12:25]  * Emry is wondering if he would be better off with 8.04 :P
[12:25] <r3d2_> Why?
[12:26] <zer_x252> Daughain: SuperKaramba is MUCH easier to use than conky, you just add little applets in and stuff
[12:26] <Daughain> Ok, I dont remember having al this trouble when I installed 9.04.....
[12:26] <lstarnes> Znuff: upstart might not have built-in runlevel handling
[12:26] <Qiit>        __
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[12:26] <FloodBot2> Qiit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <r3d2_> If you got it all sorted and had a conky desktop you'd know what? The temp of your CPU? GPU? It's not all that exciting..
[12:27] <zer_x252> Daughain: You had sensors on your desktop without installing extra software?
[12:27] <r3d2_> I had to install lm_sensors, I think
[12:27] <Daughain> r3d2_; I have overheating issues on this laptop. :P I need to see what the CPU's are doing.
[12:28] <zer_x252> r3d2_: I rarely use conky for that useless stuff anymore, yeah I've got temperatures in there, but I mainly use my conky for displaying useful things, a calendar, upcoming cronjobs, folding@home WU progress, bandwidth usage
[12:28] <jasman> !udp
[12:28] <lstarnes> Znuff: try sudo initctl start rc? (where ? is the runlevel)
[12:28] <r3d2_> Daughain, you prolly want to take your laptop apart and clean the heatsinks.
[12:28] <_qUaNtUm_> hi guys, items are not being visualized on my bookmarks toolbar: i have many of em and they dont fit in the space of my screen so usually at the end of the toolbar there's a little arrow and by clicking on it the remaining ones appear, now there's no arrow and just the sign of another bookmark, if i right click on it, itz this  "bookmarks toolbar items" icon which is never been there before, i run ubuntu 8.10 with ff3 thanks
[12:28] <Daughain> I dont remember installing more than lm-sensors.....Just had a list of core temps across the top of the desktop.
[12:28] <r3d2_> I've had to clean mine once a year
[12:28] <r3d2_> It helps.
[12:28] <zer_x252> Daughain: after installing and configuring lm-sensors, right click your gnome-panel click add to panel
[12:29] <Daughain> r3d2_; Been there. Reinstalled fan with fresh arctic silver. Hasnt done shit.
[12:29] <zer_x252> Daughain: there should be a sensors thing in the add to panel menu
[12:29] <r3d2_> Daughain, did you clean out the gunk from the heatsink with compresses-air?
[12:29] <r3d2_> "compressed"
[12:29] <zer_x252> Daughain: if cleaning out your heatsinks doesnt help, your thermal compound has probably evaporated, pick up some Artic Silver 5 and replace it :D
[12:29] <Daughain> r3d2_,; Bug me later, I want to get this configured first, thanks.
[12:30] <jasman> what is udp? I see it in netstat
[12:30] <r3d2_> "thermal compound evaporated" --- Um, No.
[12:30] <zer_x252> udp is a protocol
[12:30] <lstarnes> jasman: you know what tcp is, right?
[12:30] <dnivra> jasman: udp stands for user datagram protocol
[12:30] <r3d2_> Do your thermal compound properly in the first place.
[12:30] <zer_x252> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udp
[12:30] <Qiit>        __
[12:30] <Daughain> zer_x252,;Lemme find the panel thing...
[12:30] <lstarnes> jasman: udp, like tcp, is used for packet transport
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[12:30] <FloodBot2> Qiit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <lstarnes> !ops | Qiit cross-channel flooding
[12:31] <sixtila> my ubuntu cd got corrupted - is it possible to install ubuntu online or smthg?
[12:31] <r3d2_> Everyone thinks they know how to thermal compound their CPU. They get the BEST stuff, then layer a mm of it, which wrecks things.
[12:32] <r3d2_> You need less than a tenth of a mm
[12:32] <dnivra> !install > dnivra
[12:32] <r3d2_> The more you add, the more it insulates.
[12:32] <Darkchylde> i was going to say you only need a small drop, but that works too.
[12:32] <zer_x252> r3d2_: which is why I reference the youtube video of how to properly apply it when I tell people to do it
[12:33] <r3d2_> I've used a credit card to spread a tiny drop over the heatsink, and that's plenty from what I read
[12:33] <Daughain> oK, where do I find gnome-panel?
[12:33] <Darkchylde> there's a reason they say you can get so many uses out of that teeny tiny tube of thermal paste, after all.
[12:33] <sixtila> i currently have ubuntu 9.04 32 bit - can i upgrade to Karmic 64 bit online ? (without having to burn another disk)?
[12:33] <zer_x252> Darkchylde: the small drop in the center was acceptable during early computing days, with the amount of thermal dissipation required to cool CPUs and GPUs these days, that just doesnt cover the whole surface area properly
[12:33] <lstarnes> sixtila: no
[12:34] <lstarnes> sixtila: but you can gp to the 32-bit version of karmic
[12:34] <lstarnes> *go
[12:34] <Darkchylde> zer_x252: to be fair, i haven't had to apply it to anything more recent than an athlon XP.
[12:34] <zer_x252> r3d2_: thats the exact method used in the video, card and all
[12:34] <r3d2_> As long as you cover the heat-exchange of your cpu in a very fine layer, I say it's good.
[12:34] <zer_x252> Darkchylde: wasn't insulting the method :D I used to do it, and then came mr i7
[12:35] <Daughain> zer_x252; I did re-apply arctic silver, about 6 hours ago. Still hasnt helped. And, where do I find gnome-panel?
[12:35] <Darkchylde> i know.
[12:35] <bazhang> !ot | r3d2_
[12:35] <lstarnes> Darkchylde: it can be run from the terminal or alt+f2
[12:35] <dnivra> how's 64bit edition of Ubuntu? friends told me not many apps have 64 bit versions. is it true?
[12:35] <lstarnes> Darkchylde: it is not in the applications menu because it is not a regular application, but it is a core component of gnome
[12:35] <zer_x252> Daughain: gnome-panel is the control bar with the menus
[12:36] <lstarnes> dnivra: most programs do
[12:36] <r3d2_> Daughain, if you didn't clean your CPU with ethyl alcohol you haven't got rid of the FIRST layer of heat-transfer
[12:36] <digitalchemist> Daughain: to find the executable's location, "which gnome-panel"
[12:36] <liar> hey, i just got a medion P82001 digital notepad. the driver works, its detected as /dev/input/mouse1. my problem is: i just move the cursor but i
[12:36] <bazhang> r3d2_, please take hardware chat elsewhere
[12:36] <Daughain> Ah, didnt know what that was called.
[12:36] <dnivra> lstarnes: cool. I'll find out more thanks.
[12:36] <liar> i just can move the cursor but i cant click or scroll*
[12:36] <Daughain> r3d2_; I may be new to linux, I am not new to hardware. :P
[12:37] <r3d2_> bazhang - sure, soz - I don't care either way.
[12:37] <lstarnes> dnivra: I have been using it since 7.10 and I haven't had any major issues other than java and flash
[12:37] <lee> this place is rather busier than I anticipated
[12:37] <sixtila_> i currently have ubuntu 9.04 32 bit - can i upgrade to Karmic 64 bit online ? (without having to burn another disk)?
[12:37] <lstarnes> dnivra: but I don't have issues with those in 8.04 anymore
[12:37] <lstarnes> sixtila: no.
[12:37] <lstarnes> sixtila_: you will have to install from scratch to go from 32 to 64
[12:38] <zer_x252> speaking of new to linux, any insight as to why I cant login to anything besides gnome failsafe with gdm? I can login to anything if I kill gdm, but only gnome-failsafe if i login using gdm
[12:38] <dnivra> lstarnes: that's news to me. might shift to 64. thanks.
[12:38] <lstarnes> sixtila_: but you can use the update manager to go from 32-bit 9.04 to 32-bit 9.10
[12:38] <sixtila_> lstarnes , during boot i get SOFTRESET FAILED...
[12:38] <kyentei> As if you need the 4GB of RAM perse.
[12:38] <sixtila_> what does that mean
[12:38] <lstarnes> dnivra: how long ago did you hear about apps not having 64-bit versions?
[12:38] <r3d2_> zer - That's really, really odd. What does dmesg say?
[12:38] <lstarnes> sixtila_: I don't know
[12:38] <bazhang> kyentei, an install of linux-generic-pae on 32 bit karmic will show all 4GB
[12:39] <digitalchemist> FANDER: I can see the computer when I try to send from my device, but I haven't been able to do a successful send yet ...
[12:39] <dnivra> lstarnes: just before jaunty released I'd say.
[12:39] <kyentei> bazhang: Hmm, did not know that. So what would be the motivation to use 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:39] <zer_x252> r3d2_: not much in the ballpark of gdm: http://pastebin.com/m6d9d6e12
[12:39] <dnivra> lstarnes: just after jaunty released. sorry.
[12:40] <bazhang> dnivra, just about everything has 64bit apps, with the possible exception of mupen or zsnes
[12:40] <dnivra> bazhang: It'll show alll 4GB; but does it use all 4GB of RAM?
[12:40] <bazhang> dnivra, sure
[12:40] <zer_x252> r3d2_: http://pastebin.com/m76615796 full dmesg
[12:41] <bazhang> kyentei, video compositing or other tasks as such
[12:41] <dnivra> that's news bazhang; will have to try that perhaps
[12:41] <kyentei> bazhang: I see. Alright.
[12:41] <lenny__> motivation to use 64-bit OSs? to waste memory of course
[12:42] <zer_x252> r3d2_: in fact it looks like dmesg has nothing to say about gdm
[12:42] <lstarnes> lenny__: that;s not the only reason to use 64-bit
[12:42] <zer_x252> lenny__: damn right, 12gb of memory and I still feel like I'm not wasting enough
[12:42] <Daughain> Ah, found it. Need the sensors-applet installed as well.
[12:43] <zer_x252> Daughain: oh, I thought the gnome-panel applet came installed my bad ><
[12:43] <lenny__> lstarnes: no, that's the only reason because you have 0 added features but nearly double memory usage
[12:43] <zer_x252> lenny__: you are severely missinformed as to what 64-bit is
[12:43] <lenny__> I men there is an added feature... you can address more than 4GB of ram
[12:43] <Daughain> zer_x252; No worries, I didnt remember either, but, figgered I would take a look for what I missed. I couldnr remember the names to begin with. =)
[12:44] <zer_x252> lenny__: 64-bit doesnt refer to how memory is allocated, it refers to the number of bits of data the processor processes in a single iteration
[12:44] <lenny__> but you need to address more than 4GB of ram only if you're wasting a lot
[12:44] <lenny__> zer_x252: I know that
[12:44] <lstarnes> lenny__: I can name at least one example: applications that use numbers larger than 32 bits in size can use them natively insetad of needing to emulate larger numbers, which results in a performance boost
[12:44] <zer_x252> ^
[12:44] <lenny__> lstarnes: you can do that in 32 bit mode too
[12:44] <inawarminister> Excuse me, everyone...
[12:45] <lstarnes> lenny__: yes, via a hack called PAW
[12:45] <lstarnes> *PAE
[12:45] <inawarminister> Is wacom tablets are supported by ubuntu?
[12:45] <lstarnes> lenny__: there are things which even in their most efficient, lowest-memory forms will still need more than 4 GB
[12:45] <lenny__> and you have access to vector instuctions and whatnot in 32 bit mode too
[12:45] <lstarnes> inawarminister: I think so
[12:45] <zer_x252> lenny__: most specifically in games where lots of floating point math is done, and in emulators where you are emulating architectures that are complicated enough to fill a 32-bit floating point register in a single iteration
[12:45] <m44v> Hi
[12:45] <m44v> JOIN IN #LINUX_MX
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[12:45] <FloodBot2> m44v: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <lenny__> zer_x252: you are mistaken. 64 means the size of pointers nothing to do with numbers
[12:46] <lenny__> doesn't affect floating point of integer math at all
[12:46] <lstarnes> lenny__: you sound like the people who argued against 32-bit back when 16-bit was the standard
[12:46] <bazhang> lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:46] <lenny__> I never argued for 16 bit. I like 32 bits
[12:47] <zer_x252> lenny__: actually lenny it has a lot to do with numbers, it doesnt change the math, just the size of the number you can do math with
[12:47] <lenny__> no
[12:47] <lenny__> you're wrong
[12:47] <lenny__> only the size of the pointer
[12:47] <bazhang> lenny__, zer_x252 #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:47] <lenny__> I was just replying
[12:47]  * Dr_Willis goes back to his C64 who needs all these bits.
[12:47] <r3d2_> Oh, the huge manatee's.... We can code without large numbers.
[12:47] <lenny__> don't take it with me
[12:47] <portn0k_> hey, ive got an HP pavilion a1020n, the onboard video card works fine.  ive also got an ATI Radeon 7000 (PCI), but it doesnt display anything.  `lspci` lists it for VGA, nothing i try is working
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> inawarminister:  my wacom tablets have worked.. they are the older ones however.
[12:48] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: any other things to try with that gdm issue I was having earlier?
[12:48] <lenny__> also, I have a question specific to ubuntu. Two days after the installation something weird happened to me
[12:48] <OpenSorce> I've seen a lot of mboards that will not use an addon card if the onboard one is working
[12:49] <daftykins> portn0k_: try disabling the onboard in BIOS if you want to use the card
[12:49] <zer_x252> lenny__: yes?
[12:49] <r3d2_> If your're not running a massive DB, SETI At Home, or exchanging currency, you don't need 30 decimal places.
[12:49] <portn0k_> daftykins: i tried that, when i boot up though it drops me into a busybox shell
[12:49] <r3d2_> But make all your floating point numbers LONG DOUBLES anyway
[12:49] <lenny__> I opened a shell and all of a sudden the terminal session had printed something to the screen
[12:49] <lenny__> something like this
[12:49] <lstarnes> lenny__: what did it print?
[12:49] <lenny__> *** DO U LIKE GUYS Y OR N
[12:49] <portn0k_> daftykins: from there im unable to do much really, i tried moutning my partitions to run `startx` and such but no luck
[12:50] <daftykins> portn0k_: ah, have you got a fully updated install of, Karmic i assume?
[12:50] <portn0k_> daftykins: afaik
[12:50] <adsflhsf> im building small server-client pair with ubuntu.
[12:50] <daftykins> hrmm, only thing i can think of is that there's really poor support for that card or something
[12:50] <daftykins> portn0k_: when you boot with livecd what card is used? the onboard?
[12:50] <adsflhsf> i dont remember what ports where for free use ??
[12:50] <portn0k_> daftykins: i have no livecd
[12:51] <adsflhsf> what UDP ports i can use by default ??
[12:51] <r3d2_> LONG DOUBLE canOfCoke = 0.30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 =P
[12:51] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: almost any of them between 0 and 65535
[12:51] <bazhang> r3d2_, please stop that
[12:51] <r3d2_> I thought it was funny.
[12:51] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: some might be reserved though, but you'll get an error if you try to use them
[12:51] <daftykins> portn0k_: ah how did you install?
[12:51] <portn0k_> livecd, but i dont have it anymore
[12:51] <adsflhsf> what are the recommended ??
[12:52] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: also, you might only be able to use ports equal to or above 1024 if you aren't root or using sudo
[12:52] <zer_x252> quick question on restore install from livecd
[12:52] <adsflhsf> 49100 - 49150
[12:52] <digitalchemist> adsflhsf: anything above 1024 should be available with user-level auth
[12:52] <adsflhsf> so many oh !
[12:52] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: it depends on what protocol you are using with udp
[12:52] <adsflhsf> im using with UDP
[12:52] <zer_x252> will i lose everything? as in.. have to do all the customization work again?
[12:52] <Daughain> OK, whats the command to configure an app?
[12:52] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: what are you using with udp?
[12:52] <zer_x252> if so, I'm just gonna keep logging into the failsafe terminal
[12:52] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: do you have /home on a separate partition?
[12:53] <adsflhsf> lstarnes : boardgame server with java.
[12:53] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: were you able to create a new user and log in successfully with that?
[12:53] <daftykins> portn0k_: ah ok, i'm outof ideas then i'm afraid, could download and write one if you have a blank disc?
[12:53] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: it would depend on the udp ports that that program is designed to use by default
[12:53] <portn0k_> daftykins: yeahi guess so.  thanks for your time
[12:53] <minimec> Daughain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure 'yourapp' With this command you set your app back to default... for example.
[12:53] <zer_x252> digitalchemist: shamefully, no, I went to windows for about 2 years, and wanted to come back to linux, so this was originally installed next to a windows install for me to work back into linux...
[12:53] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: otherwise, you might be able to use almost anything
[12:53] <daftykins> no problemo!
[12:54] <adsflhsf> so, i can choose freely, ok !! thanks !!
[12:54] <zer_x252> diditalchemist: no, I created a new user, and I had the same issue with the new user as I did with my original user
[12:54] <zer_x252> digitalchemist*
[12:54] <lukas__> elo
[12:54] <Daughain> minimec, Its already at default, I need to change it, and then figger out how to get the damn thing to run. Or at least find it so I can use it. =)
[12:54] <zer_x252> Daughain: what app?
[12:54] <lukas__> Hello
[12:54] <Daughain> sensors-applet
[12:55] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: just back up your user folder before doing anything ... you might be able to simply replace the fresh-install one with your backed up one. Since you weren't able to login with a new account, it probably isn't a problem with anything in your home folder
[12:55] <lukas__> how can i play SAMP on Ubuntu ?
[12:55] <minimec> Daughain: System wide configuration files are normally stored in /etc/youtapp/config or in a file in /etc.
[12:55] <Daughain> zer_x252; I installed with synaptics, but still cant find it on the panel.
[12:56] <Daughain> zer_x252; I installed with synaptics, but still cant find it on the panel.
[12:56] <digitalchemist> Daughain: try killall gnome-panel then look for it
[12:56] <Daughain> dAMMIT
[12:56] <zer_x252> Daughain: right-click on your gnome panel (thats the grey bar at the top) and click add to panel, scroll through there and there should be one that says sensors-applet, also make sure you run sudo sensors-detect in a terminal to configure lmsensors
[12:56] <Daughain> minimec; Raw newb here. I just barely followed what you said, and dont feel like I wanna tinker with things I dont understand. =)
[12:57] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto Daughain have you seen this
[12:57] <Daughain> zer_x252; Lemme run the config first.....Though, sensors-applet does *not* as of yet show in the 'add to panel'.
[12:57] <Daughain> IN about three min I will, bazhang. Thanks.
[12:58] <zer_x252> Daughain: i reccomend that link
[12:58] <Yraya> hi everybody
[12:58] <Daughain> Waiting for it to load, zer_x252. Reinstall hasnt helped my slow as shit web opage loading.
[12:59] <zer_x252> Daughain: also, if you sudo killall gnome-panel in a terminal it will restart the gnome-panel, click add to panel again it should be called Hardware Sensors Monitor
[12:59] <jasman> What antivirus for ubuntu?
[12:59] <minimec> Daughain: What software you need to be configured?
[12:59] <rsk> jasman, you don't need it
[12:59] <lstarnes> !antivirus | jasman
[12:59] <rsk> jasman, unless you want to scan other files on windows pc on the network or similar
[13:00] <zer_x252> minimec: hes trying to get lmsensors to display temperatures on his desktop, but doesnt want to fiddle with conky or karamba, so I'm pointing him in the direction of sensors-applet for gnome-panel
[13:00] <Daughain> zer_x252; That was it. Once again, I dont remember names, and was looking for the wrong thing.
[13:00] <zer_x252> Daughain: =D glad to hear you got it :D
[13:00] <Daughain> So am I. =)
[13:01] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: Daughain: screenlets might be work ... sudo apt-get install screenlets
[13:01] <Daughain> digitalchemist; I'm going slow here and getting this sys back to what I had before....*Then* I will play with new things.
[13:02] <zer_x252> Daughain: make a good backup of your system when you get it where you want it, then you can feel free to explore linux as much as you want :D
[13:02] <Daughain> Though, mebbe re-applying thermal paste helped....My temps are down to normal.
[13:02] <minimec> zer_x252: Good idea. Did he install that applet?
[13:02] <zer_x252> minimec: yes, exactly what he wanted :D
[13:02] <Daughain> zer_x252; No, I just need another system I dont actualy *need* for anything. =)
[13:03] <m0rph1as> Merry X-Mas 2 U All...
[13:03] <zer_x252> minimec: as for my issue, it looks like a reinstall is in store for me ><
[13:03] <Daughain> minimec; I had the applet installed, just wasnt looking for the right name in the panel.
[13:03] <minimec> zer_x252: I guess that modified driver is buggy, don't you think...
[13:03] <r3d2_> Merry Christmas to you, M0rph1as :)
[13:04] <m0rph1as> thank you.
[13:04] <zer_x252> christmas is off-top :P
[13:04] <Daughain> Hmmmm....ust remembered, I removed the fan cover to see how much difference that made...
[13:04] <zer_x252> jk
[13:04] <zer_x252> Merry christmas
[13:04] <r3d2_> lol zer
[13:04] <vfen> merry xmas
[13:04] <m0rph1as> lol
[13:05] <r3d2_> Merry christmas to ANYONE who's faught linux, and WON! :)
[13:05] <m0rph1as> haha.  i installed 10.04 for my gift :-P
[13:05] <zer_x252> r3d2_: Oh, i see how it is, just because I'm cowering in defeat...
[13:05] <digitalchemist> !ot | bah-humbug
[13:05] <r3d2_> lol zer ;)
[13:06] <digitalchemist> humor is off-topic ... bad robots!
[13:06] <zer_x252> r3d2_: still the weirdest issue I've seen in linux, and I've been toying with this OS for almost 10 years ><
[13:06] <zer_x252> not as weird as compiz not supporting xdamage properly though ><
[13:07] <r3d2_> Zer - I think Windows 7 is the best OS over, just because I don't have to constantly fix my wife's computer.
[13:07] <bazhang> !ot
[13:07] <r3d2_> I think that classifies as a loss, too
[13:07] <AnirbanHazra> can anyone give the sources.list file for Ubuntu Server 8.04 LTS for server residing in USA.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> r3d2_:  i dont care what OS my wife uses.. she can crash a toaster oven
[13:08] <r3d2_> Not to self: Don't buy your wife a laptop if you don't want to spend your life fixing it.
[13:08] <ortsvorsteher> !sources.list | AnirbanHazra
[13:08] <r3d2_> "Note"
[13:08] <r3d2_> Dr_Willis, my wife must know yours, they're good like that...
[13:08] <adsflhsf> Hello! Is there a gethost () on UDP datagrams ??
[13:09] <adsflhsf> to know the server IP ??
[13:09] <zer_x252> adsflhsf what exactly have you been trying to do?
[13:09] <adsflhsf> i havent fully understood the UDP way to work !!
[13:09] <imaginativeone> wives & computers - yet another item that feminism doesn't address
[13:09] <adsflhsf> maybe i should read few googles first.
[13:09] <zer_x252> well, I'm going to reinstall tomorrow, just after I finally finished "converting" from ntfs to ext3 on my 4tb raid array
[13:10] <adsflhsf> im on a Java applet with datagrams.
[13:10] <adsflhsf> is there a way to know the host IP with UDP datagrams ??
[13:10] <r3d2_> zer - nice, don't hold your breath..
[13:10] <adsflhsf> or should i insert host ip on a code ??
[13:10] <adsflhsf> *client code ??
[13:11] <zer_x252> gnight everyone, I need to get some sleep
[13:11] <AnirbanHazra> ortsvorsteher: I only have shell access .
[13:11] <r3d2_> It's a myth that linux monkeys have no taste in music - what are you listening to? ( and if it isn't Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix, why not? ;) )
[13:12] <ortsvorsteher> AnirbanHazra, and you dont have a browser on your client pc?
[13:13] <AnirbanHazra> ortsvorsteher: No , is this fine ? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/sample/sources.list ??
[13:13] <phako> hi. How can I hook up to the ACPI undock event?
[13:13] <ortsvorsteher> AnirbanHazra, yes, i think this will be fine
[13:13] <r3d2_> A mate of mine bought ten copies of Mumford and Sons for his music xmas presents, and it's a good album, but I still would have gone w/ Phoenix
[13:15] <sixtila> my unetbootin says no flash drive- format it as FAT32 - but it is already in FAT32
[13:18] <joshyfluff> Hai all :D
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> sixtila:  be sure its looking at the right drive.
[13:18] <sixtila> i think i better use USB creator
[13:18] <sixtila> thanks
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> sixtila:  if you want a peristant save file - yes. Use usb-creator
[13:19] <joshyfluff> Can anyone help me with my wacom bamboo issues? I tried a tutorial referring to the use of xorg.conf, but mines empty and I had to usb boot it to remove the stuff from  it cause it screwed it up ;~;
[13:21] <joshyfluff> It turns out that I need a xorg.conf ; ;
[13:21] <r3d2_> Joshy - If I knew what the hell a wacom bamboo was - you KNOW I'd be the man to help you out. It's gonna be a tablet, right?
[13:21] <joshyfluff> Its a tablet, yeah
[13:21] <joshyfluff> Whoops, forgot to say it was a tablet earlier, sorry ^^'
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> joshyfluff:  you did check for ubuntu 9.10 specific guides?   xorg.conf is rather minima these days
[13:21] <joshyfluff> I did, yes
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Minimal. :)
[13:22] <joshyfluff> I followed the tutorial and it turns out that his build has it, but mine doesn't D:
[13:22] <jacob_> Sorry i know this isnt' the rigth place for the post...but does anyone know if there is a IRC for Wine?
[13:22] <lstarnes> jacob_: you mean an irc channel?  try #winehq on this network
[13:22] <joshyfluff> Google IRC Windows ^^
[13:22] <joshyfluff> Oh
[13:23] <jacob_> lstarnes: ty
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> joshyfluff:  tell the chennal what guide you followed.
[13:24] <simplexio> jacob_: and why would you want run ric client in wine if there are many native irc apps for linux?
[13:24] <joshyfluff> http://audiophysical.squarespace.com/blog/2009/1/6/using-bamboo-wacom-in-ubuntu-is-a-12-step-program.html
[13:24] <joshyfluff> My mistake, he is on 8.04, I think
[13:24] <simplexio> uh.. and names probably went wrong
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> joshyfluff:  check http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1363027     yet?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> 8.04? that may make it much harder
[13:25] <joshyfluff> I checked that, yeah
[13:25] <joshyfluff> I installed all 3 of those, trying it ewach time and none of them work
[13:25] <joshyfluff> each*
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> There were some large changes in how xorg.conf is from 8.04 to 9.10
[13:25] <jacob_> simplexio: i recently deleted my windows partition..and the only thing i used it for was world of warcraft...so to my knowledge without paying wine is the best at running it
[13:26] <joshyfluff> When I run xsetwacom list, no listing is listed ; ;
[13:26] <joshyfluff> But no errors come up either
[13:27] <joshyfluff> Then again, it sees my webcam as a keyboard
[13:29] <dreamy> is there any channel to chat about anything related to linux and sound, besides ubuntu-studio?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> its a multi function device i imagine. Keyboard/mouse/and other.
[13:29] <joshyfluff> Its one of those 3D ones, it has 2 cameras in it C:
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> egads...
[13:30] <joshyfluff> But yeah, nothing seems to be working for me tablet wise ._.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> what next.. smell-o-vision?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:30] <jacob_> sorry been a while since i used smuxi...how to you change to a different channel?
[13:31] <sixtila2> booting from usbcreator , asks for a password- any idea?
[13:32] <joshyfluff> try just pressing enter, or typing ubuntu
[13:32] <crapper> i have to take a dump.
[13:32]  * crapper shits.
[13:32] <joshyfluff> lolspam
[13:33] <OpenSorce> Bazhang did not like that word :-P
[13:33] <sixtila2> enter dont work nor ubuntu
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> sixtila2:  seen that when the system dont boot prtoperly
[13:33] <adsflhsf> Hello and Merry Christmas! I have a question of UDP packets! What is the best way to read packets when packets are on different sizes and there is very lot of them on second ??
[13:34] <joshyfluff> I'll keep looking around, see if I can maybe find a wacom channel, or something ^^
[13:34] <adsflhsf> is that a ubuntu question anymore ??
[13:34] <d4a65a> is it possible to install two graphical environmets eg GNOME and LXDE ?
[13:34] <bazhang> d4a65a, sure is, more than two if wanted
[13:34] <d4a65a> how to do that?
[13:34] <bazhang> d4a65a, eg lubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop , xubuntu-desktop
[13:35] <bazhang> d4a65a, this is karmic 9.10 ?
[13:35] <d4a65a> yeah 64 bit
[13:35] <bazhang> d4a65a, then choose which one you want from login window under session
[13:35] <d4a65a> ok gr8 ... ubuntu is great ... thanks
[13:36] <jacob_> sorry i know this isn't the right chat..but its the default one....what is the command to open a new IRC channel?
[13:36] <Craig`> hey, is there a simple way to use some code for mouse emulation in ubuntu? i'm not sure if there's a ruby library, but I guess C may be alright, not that I want to use it, (kinda related to ubuntu hence why I asked here)
[13:36] <bazhang> jacob_, channel? /join #channel
[13:36] <jacob_> bazhang: ty
[13:38] <tolpico> I have some NTFS drives, how do I auto mount them at login?
[13:38] <u2ix> tolpico: add them to /etc/fstab
[13:38] <apocalypt> !fstab | tolpico
[13:39] <Craig`> can someone help please? ^
[13:40] <bazhang> Craig`, with ruby? you may wish to /msg alis list *ruby* for an appropriate channel
[13:41] <Craig`> bazhang, I already know a channel for ruby, it's just I was wondering if there is some sort of system command for ubuntu for mouse emulation, just when people asked what OS I used they recommended coming here, and asking for help
[13:42] <Daughain> OK, who wants to have the fun of giving me a hand setting up samba?
[13:42] <arreche> hello
[13:42] <arreche> where is the package eel-2.0?
[13:45] <Daughain> I see that was a popular request. =)
[13:45] <axyjo> hi all, how do I prevent init.d scripts  from  starting automatically? I've got a netbook that I use for browsing and some web-dev, so I'd like to prevent apache+mysql from running unless I start them manually
[13:45] <tolpico> u2ix, apocalypt ubottu thanks
[13:46] <bazhang> arreche, libeel2-2?
[13:46] <llutz> axyjo: sudo update-rc.d -f >script< remove
[13:46] <axyjo> llutz: thanks
[13:46] <petran1368> 13pn6801av69
[13:46] <bazhang> petran1368, ??
[13:48] <arreche> bazhang: I don't know. is needed to compile nautilus-python
[13:49] <bazhang> arreche, why do you need to compile that; what version of ubuntu are you on
[13:49] <bazhang> arreche, assuming you mean python-nautilus
[13:50] <arreche> bazhang: ubuntu karmic. I'm trying to compile nautilus using jhbuild
[13:51] <bazhang> arreche, python-nautilus is in the repos
[13:53] <arreche> bazhang: thanks. I'll try again after install that package
[13:53] <Rizwaan> hi evrybdy..
[13:53] <Rizwaan> i am a newbie to ubuntu..
[13:54] <Rizwaan> just install and work fine until i install nvidia 190.53 driver..
[13:54] <tolpico> Is there a manual of apt-get commands, or we have to just guess? May be a database where we can search by keywords?
[13:54] <Rizwaan> can anyone help
[13:54] <Yos> Hi Rizwaan
[13:54] <Rizwaan> ??
[13:54] <Rizwaan> hi yos
[13:54] <bazhang> tolpico, sure there is
[13:54] <clepto> hi i got a problem. i upgraded my windows vista to windows 7 on my dual boot ubuntu notebook and ofcourse it messed up grub so i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to repair it and it restored grub but with the old windows vista loader... and that wont boot windows 7... any help?
[13:54] <bazhang> tolpico, using the man command in terminal
[13:55] <r3d2_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[13:55] <r3d2_> Sorry.
[13:55] <r3d2_> Windows 7.
[13:55] <clepto> dont be a hater
[13:55] <Rizwaan> can anyone help...?
[13:55] <bazhang> tolpico, in this case man apt-get
[13:56] <clepto> sadly its my work laptop
[13:56] <mmarc__> hi
[13:56] <clepto> and if they knew i was running linux on it they would kill me
[13:56] <mmarc__> what do we have in evolution about M$ Exchange 2007 support? Looks like evolution-api is not solving the problem.
[13:56] <mmarc__> "The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector   supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only."
[13:56] <r3d2_> Sorry. Got excited.
[13:57] <clepto> sadly its my work laptop
[13:57] <bazhang> clepto, windows 7 has a strange 100mb bootloader it installs, is this a fresh ubuntu install?
[13:57] <clepto> and if they knew i was running linux on it they would kill me
[13:57] <clepto> no
[13:57] <clepto> its a fresh windows 7 install
[13:58] <clepto> i already had ubuntu and vista on it
[13:58] <clepto> but i had to delete the vista partition and install windows 7 over it
[13:58] <bazhang> clepto, what version of ubuntu
[13:58] <clepto> 9.10
[13:58] <bazhang> clepto, did you upgrade or fresh install (ie is it grub2)
[13:58] <clepto> yes its grub2
[13:58] <tolpico> bazhang, thanks, yes its really helpful, but we need to enter the exact name we are looking for, in some cases when we don't exact command, is tehre a keyword tool which displays approximate results for what we are searching?
[13:59] <bazhang> clepto, should be sudo update-grub to fix it
[13:59] <Thijs> Merry christmas everyone
[13:59] <aksci> i recovered a few files, using ntfsundelete, but they don't have their filenames! how do i know their original properties??
[13:59] <Thijs> Question. How do i start the hardware drivers gui from CLI?
[13:59] <clepto> ...
[14:00] <bazhang> tolpico, if you could specify what you are looking for someone may know, reading the manual is also available in html form online
[14:00] <clepto> bazhang: that was so easy its retarded...
[14:00] <bazhang> clepto, it worked?
[14:00] <clepto> wow
[14:00] <clepto> yeah
[14:00] <bazhang> great
[14:00] <IdleOne> !cookie | bazhang
[14:00] <clepto> output
[14:00] <clepto> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[14:00] <Emry> :P I have samba installed on my linux box.. I am contemplating mounting an nfs share in the directory tree that samba points to in order to access it from windows, is that a good idea? :P
[14:00] <clepto> so im assuming it did
[14:00] <bazhang> clepto, be sure to boot into both to make sure though
[14:01] <clepto> ill just have to reboot to see if it doesnt work ill be back
[14:01] <clepto> if it did work merry christmas guys!
[14:01] <bazhang> IdleOne, :)
[14:02] <Psinetic> hey guys, i'm running Ubuntu 9.10 64bit. I'm trying to convert over to UbuntuCE, but it's giving me an error when i run the command lines they told me to run. any help please?
[14:02] <Psinetic> http://pastebin.com/d115d9038
[14:02] <m0rph1as> u two clepto
[14:03] <Daughain> Can anyone tell me what file I need to edit for to get samba on an existing network?
[14:04] <Thijs> Question. How do i start the hardware drivers gui from CLI? My computer freezes up at the administration menu, unless i install the proper ati drivers, but i need to get into that screen first
[14:04] <Thijs> normally it would pop up at the right corner taskbar, but it doesn't
[14:04] <Psinetic> rather slow in here tonight :S
[14:06] <Psinetic> can someone help me with this please?
[14:06] <Psinetic> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:06] <Psinetic>   ubuntu-ce: Depends: wine-christian-repos but it is not going to be installed
[14:06] <Psinetic> E: Broken packages
[14:06] <FloodBot2> Psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <redonkulous> So can I get some help with GRUB2
[14:07] <bazhang> redonkulous, what was the actual question
[14:07] <redonkulous> Whenever I try to boot into Windows XP I am left with a black screen and a clinking cursor
[14:07] <Daughain> Guess not.
[14:07] <bazhang> redonkulous, which was installed first
[14:07] <redonkulous> Windows
[14:08] <redonkulous> XP is on sda1
[14:08] <bazhang> redonkulous, and you updated grub?
[14:08] <redonkulous> yeah
[14:08] <haresh> hello need some help
[14:09] <haresh> my when i plug in my mp3 it dose not read please help me thanks
[14:09] <redonkulous> did you look in /media/?
[14:09] <redonkulous> should be something like /sbd1/ or something
[14:10] <haresh> i did
[14:10] <haresh> how can i check by terminal  ?
[14:11] <Psinetic> i'm about to fall asleep here, i'm just sitting here waiting on my girlfriend to get online for the next hour trying to get ubuntuce to finally install and keep getting the same error on it >_>
[14:11] <redonkulous> hmm
[14:12] <redonkulous> when I plug my flash drive in it shows up as a crazy named folder in /media/
[14:12] <redonkulous> so it might not be sbd1 or whatever
[14:12] <redonkulous> just plug in in and out and see what directory pops up
[14:12] <haresh> for mine it dose nto shows up
[14:12] <haresh> but it is charing the mp3
[14:13] <redonkulous> so, bazhang, any ideas?
[14:13] <redonkulous> on the grub2?
[14:13] <sixtila2> 2nd time i get the same error- input out error maybe due to faulty cd- but its usb now- is it corrupt download?
[14:14] <silver> redonkulous have you tried a sudo grub-mkconfig?
[14:14] <redonkulous> nay I shall
[14:14] <silver> does grub find the windows bootloader?
[14:14] <redonkulous> no
[14:14] <m0rph1as> silver, yes.
[14:15] <redonkulous> that is my issue
[14:15] <redonkulous> like it recognizes that windows is there
[14:15] <haresh> please help me thnaks
[14:15] <redonkulous> and makes the option to boot to it
[14:15] <redonkulous> but it doesn't boot to it
[14:16] <redonkulous> alright haresh, go into a partition editor and see if you can find your mp3 player in there
[14:16] <redonkulous> if you can then it is connected and it is just a matter of finding where it is
[14:16] <haresh> how do i go there ??
[14:17] <Psinetic> so uh i guess out of the nearly 2200 people in this irc not a single one has any idea what ubuntuCE is and how to fix errors itgets?
[14:17] <silver> redonkulous first try the grub-mkconfig, if this doesn't help put in your windows disk and do a fixmbr fixboot ...then windows will overwrite grub ...after that you have to install grub again via live-cd
[14:18] <redonkulous> yeah I was hoping I wouldn't have to redo the mbr
[14:18] <redonkulous> I did try the fixboot
[14:18] <haresh> please guide me thanks
[14:18] <redonkulous> I jsut did a mkconfig so I'll try that
[14:18] <Thijs> Question. How do i start the hardware drivers gui from CLI? (Fresh install)My computer freezes up at the administration menu, unless i install the proper ati drivers, but i need to get into that screen first
[14:18] <redonkulous> thanks
[14:18] <Daughain> Has anyone else had issues after upgrading to 9.10, instead of doing a frwsh install?
[14:19] <gui7> what's the best/easiest way to burn an iso to a disc?
[14:19] <Thijs> brasero
[14:19] <Thijs> gui7 brasero
[14:19] <Psinetic> *sigh* screw it i'm going to bed >_>
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> right click on iso.. burn to disk.. :)
[14:21] <haresh> any oen please help me
[14:21] <Daughain> Night, Psinetic
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  restate the question and see who can help.
[14:21] <duffydack> hmm 4gig ram, used 1.1gb, and swap using 648k... whats that setting to make it use ram more.....
[14:21] <Daughain> Think we have a shortage of people who can help this morning. =)
[14:21] <Sensiva> Hello All, Did anyone received an error "Intel(0): No valid Modes" after rebooting the paste few days after upgrading?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  yep. That can be expected...
[14:22] <haresh> i plug my mp3 in but its dose nto read but it is charging
[14:22] <Daughain> Dr_Willis, Yup, tis the season.
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Im waiting for my wife to explode from the stress.
[14:22] <Psinetic> Daughain, you're not supposed to tell me goodnight when i leave like that, but thanks anyways.
[14:22] <Daughain> Sensiva, Ya might wanna try a fresh install. I ran across a bunch of issues with the upgrade, so far a fresh install has solved a lot of them.
[14:23] <Daughain> Psinetic, Ok, so I am [polite, get over it. =)
[14:23] <Psinetic> :P
[14:23] <Sensiva> Daughain I meant apt-get upgrade not a release upgrade
[14:23] <m0rph1as> Dr_Willis, sorry to hear that :/
[14:23] <Sensiva> !intel
[14:23] <Sensiva> humph
[14:23] <Daughain> Sensiva, Ah, sorry, can help ya there.
[14:23] <Sensiva> :\
[14:24] <Sensiva> ty
[14:24] <duffydack> whats that setting to make it use ram more.....
[14:24] <gui7> brasero gave me this error: Session error : unknown (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2811)
[14:24] <Pelo> m0rph1as, donT' be sorry,  she stuffed herself with candy last night , the kids are gonna love it
[14:24] <Pelo> ;-)
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> m0rph1as:  she does it every year..  then 'next year we are taking it easy for xmas....' she says..
[14:24]  * Dr_Willis dosent see the point of her wrapping pressents when they are going to get opened in 30 min....
[14:24] <m0rph1as> olry, i have an intel gpu and other than the bad emulation for windows games, it kicks ass with opengl
[14:25] <mmarc__> hi, I've got a "The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector   supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only." error in evolution under Karmic. Installation of evolution-mapi does not help. Are there any other options to fix this issue?
[14:25] <haresh> Dr_Willis, how care to help me ?
[14:25] <m0rph1as> i think i get more FPS in OpenGL linux with X3100 than DirectX windows
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  i dont even kniow waht the problem is.,. and i may have to run at any time
[14:28] <haresh> i plug my mp3 in but its dose nto read but it is charging
[14:29] <Daughain> aresh; WHat kind of player?
[14:29]  * Pelo tries to figure out away to present his problem in a consice manner
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  if you mean a mp3 player.  Check 'dmesg' output when you pkug it in - see if its seen as a usb 'drive' that you can access.. if thats the issue
[14:29] <Daughain> Haresh, eve.
[14:29] <haresh> i cant see man
[14:29] <haresh> but it is charging
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> the fact its charging.. means very little.. other then ya got power to it..
[14:29] <Pelo> haresh, what is the model of your mp3 player ?
[14:30] <haresh> creative zen
[14:30] <Paddy_NI> haresh, they are simple to get working
[14:30] <Paddy_NI> haresh, have you googled at all
[14:31] <Daughain> Ok, I have a generic question....How many installs do I need to do before I need a reboot? =)
[14:31] <Halex> Hey there and season greetings to all
[14:31] <Daughain> Monring, Halex, and hapy XMas and all that.
[14:31] <m0rph1as> my desktop is snowing!
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  installs of what?
[14:31] <haresh> i need to rush
[14:32] <haresh> cuz i am going oversea
[14:32]  * m0rph1as loves compiz
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  when you first plugin the gizmo - check dmesg output about 5 sec later.. see if it mentions the device.
[14:32] <Halex> I'd like to know if there is any method to diagnose my CD/DVD drive for any defects, cause it stopped working and I know t it a hardware issue , but I can't exactly pin-point the problem
[14:32] <sixtila2> is the download file for karmic64 faulty? i got error second time
[14:33] <haresh> no it dose not
[14:33] <Halex> I know it is*
[14:33] <sixtila2> while installing. it says inp/op error at 27%
[14:33] <Daughain> sixtila2, I had no prob when I dl'ed it. Just got done with a second install of it to.
[14:33] <Daughain> Try a different mirror?
[14:34] <Halex> Daughain: Merry Christmas to you too
[14:34] <sixtila2> different mirror means any other coumtry?
[14:34] <Halex> About that issue of mine, is there anyone here I could ask?
[14:34] <r3d2_> Halex. you could check the md5 checksum of what you downloaded to the provided md5
[14:34] <Daughain> Depends on what options you have. May mean another country, may just mean one in another sate.
[14:35] <Daughain> Halex; Is it even spinning?
[14:35] <r3d2_> lol
[14:35] <sixtila2> daughain could u send link of ur downloaded file- for amd64
[14:35] <tolpico> I installed this (sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu) to open nautilus with super privileges. But how do I use it, I mean how do i open nautilus as su now?
[14:36] <RainyLithuanian> hi, pc crashed during update and there are 2 packages damaged, how to recover them?
[14:36] <Daughain> sixtila2, I dont have the link.....Just check ubuntu.com for sites.
[14:36] <r3d2_> tolpico, you might have the option to own with gksudo when you right-click on stuff (i think)
[14:36] <r3d2_> (open with)
[14:37] <zhane> anyone did honeyd on ubuntu before?
[14:38] <Halex> Daughain: The CD/DVD drive is faulty, it sometimes reads my audio CDs but sometimes it does not, and as for DVDs , they just won't run
[14:38] <tolpico> r3d2_, "open with " dialog doesnt contain nautilus, are we supposed to enter custom command?
[14:38] <sixtila2> what happens to ubuntu support after 2011
[14:39] <BinaryMan> awesome
[14:39] <Daughain> Halex; I can't help with that.
[14:39] <BinaryMan> so, i wake up feeling like death
[14:40] <BinaryMan> and apparently my girlfriend woke up all vomity and even more deathly than myself.
[14:40] <BinaryMan> awesome christmas
[14:40] <zhane> anyone playwith honeyd before?
[14:41] <sixtila2> doughain can i check if a downloaded iso is ok, from within ubuntu
[14:41] <om26er> !md5 | sixtila2
[14:41] <markinhos> pessoal
[14:42] <RainyLithuanian> I seriously need to recover pc for work
[14:42] <RainyLithuanian> what to do after crash during update?
[14:42] <Daughain> Ok, time to reinstall again. Later kidz.
[14:43] <farhad> hello! i have installed ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix on my eee. i would like to know if there is a gui that automount a nfs share if i connect to a specific net (e.g. my home wlan).
[14:43] <haresh> how guys any one can help me
[14:43] <IdleOne> RainyLithuanian: try sudo apt-get install -f
[14:43] <RainyLithuanian> ty
[14:43] <andi_> !automount
[14:43] <farhad> i wrote to forum but nobody still answered me
[14:44] <andi_> guys, how to auto mount ntfs partitions during start up? or boot
[14:44] <tolpico> anders__, add them in fstab,
[14:45] <Trox> hello
[14:45] <markinhos> oi ubunteiros
[14:45] <Trox> theres this gui that informs about new updates that comes with a fresh install of ubuntu
[14:45] <Trox> whats it called ?
[14:45] <r3d2_> Andi, you'll need to hit up /etc/fstab to auto mount a ntfs partition.
[14:46] <tolpico> Trox, update manager
[14:46] <r3d2_> Update Manager?
[14:46] <Trox> whats the package called tolpico ?
[14:47] <ssv1994> guys help, how to add a buddy in pidgin? Buddy is using ICQ
[14:47] <farhad> andi_,  i read it. thank you very much. but if i am not on the right net of the nfs server? what does it happen?
[14:47] <tolpico> Trox, its an app in System>administration>Update manager
[14:47] <jaypur> ssv1994, wait i'll check this for you
[14:47] <ssv1994> ok
[14:47] <r3d2_> /usr/bin/update-manager
[14:48] <Trox> im not using tolpico, thx anyways
[14:48] <Trox> seems like its called update-manager-gnome
[14:48] <Pelo> what replaces /etc/inittab in ubuntu ?
[14:48] <andi_> r3d2_: i did try that, the partitions did mounted, but there's extra partitions with the name i give to the partitions in fstab.
[14:48] <jaypur> ssv1994, you must have an icq acc. and add it on pidgin
[14:48] <andi_> farhad ???
[14:48] <abhi_> how to stop recent document listing in kubuntu?
[14:48] <jaypur> ssv1994, once you have it, you'll add buddy and select the icq acc. to add
[14:48] <ssv1994> I have an icq account on pidgin
[14:48] <abhi_> i can do it under ubuntu via ubuntu-tweak
[14:49] <lianimator> hi, if I uploaded a file to ubuntu one from the web interface, I cannot see the file in my local folder, should it be like this?
[14:49] <jaypur> ssv1994, so, you go to
[14:49] <abhi_> but dont know how to do it in kubuntu
[14:49] <ssv1994> what to type in buddies username and aliase?
[14:49] <jaypur> ssv1994, friends, add friends...
[14:49] <abhi_> any info.?
[14:49] <r3d2_> andi, I have no idea what you've got in /etc/fstab, and as such I've no idea how to help you.
[14:49] <precrack> o.O
[14:49] <ssv1994> where to typr his number?
[14:49] <jaypur> ssv1994, at the buddies name i think you write his icq id, and make sure it will be add it on icq acc.
[14:50] <jaypur> his number
[14:50] <ssv1994> where to type his icq number?
[14:50] <jaypur> ssv1994,  user name
[14:50] <ssv1994> in username ar alise
[14:50] <r3d2_> try /dev/null ;)
[14:51] <abhi_> any help for me?
[14:51] <jed3ani> ubuntu ROCKS
[14:51] <precrack> anyone here on backtrack? ;p
[14:51] <ssv1994> oh, there where is username I write his number
[14:51] <andi_> r3d2, i erased what i change in fstab. But i remember using ntfs-3g for the type and « user,auto,rw » for the option. And i use the UUID for the ID. The name is folders in /media
[14:51] <bazhang> precrack, support for backtrack in #remote-exploit NOT here
[14:51] <jaypur> ssv1994, at his name you write his number
[14:51] <farhad> andi_,  i read it. thank you very much. but if i am not on the right net of the nfs server? what does it happen?
[14:51] <farhad> andi_,  sorry my net crashed
[14:51] <precrack> It was a question lol..
[14:52] <precrack> I don't need support but thanks :)
[14:52] <bazhang> precrack, then chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if no support needed
[14:52] <r3d2_> andi - I'd get a clean fstab and just boot up, ubuntu should see the drives, and mount when you click them - at least that happens for me
[14:52] <sixtila2> the hash returned by md5sum doesnt match any on the website
[14:53] <sixtila2> is the iso faulty?
[14:53] <r3d2_> Then whatever you've downloaded is corrupt, sixtila2
[14:53] <r3d2_> or the md5 is wrong. More likely the DL is bad.
[14:54] <bazhang> sixtila2, this is a direct download or a torrent download
[14:54] <andi_> r3d2_: sure it does, but it needs your authorization every time you want to mount it. I'm in 9.10 btw, since in 9.04 there's no need for authorization to mount drives
[14:54] <r3d2_> Not the end of the world, I've never md5 checked my iso before installing and life is good.
[14:54] <sixtila2> bazhang direct, us mirror
[14:55] <bazhang> sixtila2, then its corrupted if md5 does not match, perhaps try a torrent
[14:55] <harry> m
[14:55] <harry> witam
[14:55] <sixtila2> thanks, i will try
[14:55] <bazhang> !pl | harry
[14:55] <ionut> hi. does anyone knows if in a web server (linux) mysql stores all the logs that a user does ?
[14:56] <r3d2_> andi, tried a shell script with mount /mnt/Windows /dev/sda1 credentials=.........
[14:56] <r3d2_> ?
[14:56] <sixtila2> even canadian mirror is corrupt:-(
[14:56] <r3d2_> Damn Cannuks!
[14:57] <jefriputra> hello
[14:57] <r3d2_> six - two choices: Your downloads are corrupt, or everyone else is corrupt.
[14:58] <r3d2_> Or their md5 checksums are rubbish.
[14:58] <Zelest> With LVM, is it possible to have a raid5 setup with 1x750Gb and 2x500Gb (being 1TB in total with 500Gb parity data) .. and still be able to use the remaining 250Gb on the 750Gb disk for the actual system/OS?
[14:58] <tolpico> r3d2_, open as administrator for nautilus appeared after restart, but its far below the menu, is there a way to arrange the entries in right click menu? Thanks.
[14:59] <r3d2_> Spitting a single bit will throw the md5, it's nothing you'd want, but it might be something you can live with.
[14:59] <r3d2_> topico - try gconf-editor
[15:00] <arniokas> $ awk '{ print NR ' /etc/services}
[15:00] <arniokas> awk: line 2: missing } near end of file
[15:00] <arniokas> Wtf is wrong?
[15:00] <acicula> misplaced ' ?
[15:01] <arniokas> Whereto shoud I place it?
[15:01] <r3d2_> You should have seen me spitting blood because I hadn't defined the static array I was going to use earlier. If I didn't assign each element a value, it wouldn't compile.
[15:01] <Oasa> hi all
[15:01] <acicula> idunno my awk is pretty rusty
[15:03] <dahlerus> arniokas: what are you trying to do?
[15:03] <iolo> hi
[15:03] <pilif12p> i'm trying to installl my WUSB300N wifi thing on my 8.04 computer, it wont work... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530772&highlight=wusb300n is what i tried
[15:03] <hvgotcodes> merry xmas!!  whats the vi program that shows the files on the side?
[15:03] <r3d2_> I'm writing a game for XBox Live Arcade - I'm going to sell it for the lowest amount I can, which is 200 points.
[15:03] <pilif12p> the sudo ndiswrapper -i netmw245.inf doesn't work
[15:03] <Oasa> veee eye.. is text editor.... hvgotes
[15:04] <r3d2_> It'll take me 3 months to write, and I'll get back change from it.
[15:04] <Oasa> merry xmas to u too
[15:04] <r3d2_> I still think it's going to be a lot of fun :)
[15:04] <ionut> how can i cancel all the log ( all that i've typed into my terminal on a host ) ?
[15:04] <r3d2_> cancel all the log... hmmm
[15:04] <arniokas> dahlerus I just tried to print out the nubmer of fields in each line of /etc/services
[15:05] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, yes, but there is some plugin or something that shows a text based tree of files on the left so you can navigate around
[15:05] <acicula> ionut: its stored in .bash_history
[15:05] <arniokas> dahlerus it should be NF, not NR
[15:05] <ionut> acicula: and from terminal can i cancel it ?
[15:05] <dahlerus> arniokas: cat /etc/services | awk '{ print NF}'
[15:05] <acicula> ionut: mind you the current session is updated on shell exit
[15:05] <Oasa> yrah.. so wats d prob??
[15:05] <acicula> ionut: so if you never want to log consider linking it to /dev/null or something
[15:05] <acicula> ionut: its a file
[15:06] <ionut> acicula:  i got it. so how can i cancel it ?
[15:06] <acicula> ionut: you remove it?
[15:06] <ionut> the log isn't stored in localhost
[15:06] <r3d2_> Any of you want to go halves on a XBLA game - C# almost a must, a good head on your shoulders far more important.
[15:06] <ionut> acicula: i want to remove it
[15:06] <arniokas> dahlerus and how do i do it without pipe, using filepath`
[15:06] <arniokas> ?
[15:07] <Oasa> hvgtcodes : whats your problem?
[15:07] <dahlerus> arniokas: awk '{ print NF}' /etc/services
[15:07] <pilif12p> I can't get my server online now :(
[15:07] <pilif12p> Help?
[15:07] <r3d2_> Sh..t.. I'm going to have to do all of this myself, aren't I? It's going to be fun when it gets to avitar animation
[15:07] <arniokas> dahlerus thx :)
[15:07] <acicula> pilif12p: to generic, be more specific
[15:08] <dahlerus> arniokas: but I think the comments might screw things up for you, maybe you want to filter them first
[15:08] <Seeker`> !ot | r3d2_
[15:08] <acicula> pilif12p: what is wrong, what are you trying to do, are you sure you are in the right channel to ask
[15:08] <ssv1994> wha is windows-1215   ?
[15:08] <ssv1994> what
[15:08] <pilif12p> acicula: I'm trying to install a WUSB300N wireless adapter on my computer, it runs 8.04 and i can't get online with it...
[15:08] <tolpico> r3d2_, couldn't find right click entry options in cinfig editor, btw are these settings stored in our home direcories, so that i can take a backup of home alone?
[15:08] <r3d2_> Sorry, that was off-topic. No harm meant.
[15:09] <r3d2_> tolpico - it'll be deep in the gconf registry for nautilus
[15:09] <Oasa> !info debian
[15:09] <pilif12p> acicula: I can't do apt-get because i can't get online
[15:09] <ssv1994> guys, what is windows-1215
[15:09] <arniokas> dahler you're right
[15:09] <andi_> r3d2_: you mean run the script at startup? Does it need sudo?
[15:10] <Oasa> yeha... hw to add at startup pgms ??
[15:10] <Oasa> how do i add a program in start up?
[15:10] <r3d2_> andi - with the wrapper installer it should be an option when you right click, AFTER restart after installation.
[15:10] <pilif12p> !startup
[15:10] <Oasa> sorry for my broken english at the begining
[15:10] <Pelo> ok guys, I've googled my heart out,   I'm suppose t put somethign in /etc/inittab but that doesn'T exist in ubuntu , supposedly it's been replaced by /etc/event.d  which I can'T find either , what replaced that ?
[15:10] <Oasa> thank you pilif12p
[15:10] <acicula> pilif12p: check if the hw is supported on the ubuntu wireless wiki, or try a recent ubuntu on a usb stick see if it supports the wireless?
[15:11] <pilif12p> hw?
[15:11] <rsk> HardWare
[15:11] <r3d2_> andi - log out then back in to fire it up.
[15:11] <pilif12p> acicula: http://cr.am/framed.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D530772&ref=driverguide# is waht i'm reading
[15:12] <farhad> andi_,  i followed the howto you linked to me, but autofs does not work. can u help me?
[15:12] <r3d2_> autofs? farhad - tell me what you're trying to achieve
[15:13] <andi_> r3d2_: thanks...
[15:13] <farhad> r3d2_,  i would like to automount a share nfs when i connect to my home wlan (or cabled lan)
[15:13] <andi_> farhad: did i told u something?
[15:13] <farhad> andi_ advised to me this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[15:14] <farhad> i followed it but it doesn't work
[15:14] <poseidon> I just got some money for my birthday and christmas and I want to get a new laptop before I graduate HS
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[15:14] <Oasa> pilif12p : tell me something that you think I doesnt know in ubuntu. .. i mean i want to learn new features... i am just enthusiastic.
[15:14] <andi_> farhad: when did i advise you?
[15:14] <farhad> andi_,  with the bot
[15:14] <farhad> andi_,  it doesn't matter however
[15:15] <andi_> farhad: actually, it's for me, maybe it's a interesting coincident. :)
[15:15] <r3d2_> farhad - I've just looked at that howto, and it's not my forte, I'm sorry - I don't know how you can fix it bish/bash/bosh :)
[15:16] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, I am asking what is the name of the plugin for vi that shows the fs tree so you can select files to open while working in vi
[15:16] <farhad> r3d2_,  do u know a gui?
[15:16] <r3d2_> As long as you can get the the drives, it's not a high priority - sorry I couldn't help more
[15:16] <ubunteezj> hi, i have a question.. i don't know how to create a windows 7 usb from ubuntu with the iso.. is there a way?
[15:16] <r3d2_> Sorry, no,
[15:17] <ubunteezj> i cant extract the iso, the format doesnt seem to be supported in ubuntu
[15:17] <r3d2_> I can help you connect to drives, but fstab should be the way to get access
[15:18] <Oasa> hvgotcodes  : are you talking about VI improved ?
[15:18] <Oasa> !vim
[15:18] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, no
[15:18] <hvgotcodes> sigh ill try google ;)
[15:19] <andi_> google is love
[15:19] <poseidon> hvgotcodes, have you tried #vim?
[15:19] <Oasa> hvgotcodes: I am sorry.....
[15:19] <ubunteezj> google doesnt love me then :S
[15:19] <dahlerus> hvgotcodes: :e . doesn't work?
[15:19] <ubunteezj> there are no guides :/
[15:20] <Oasa> hvgtcodes: you were talking about :e ??
[15:21] <ubunteezj> lol i said "windows" are ppl are staying away from me
[15:21] <ubunteezj> and its not even for me
[15:21] <r3d2_> hehe
[15:22] <Oasa> hvgtcodes: try vim-gnome package i dont actually understand what you are talking.
[15:22] <sunil> hai any one can help me
[15:22] <r3d2_> I made my wife use linux for a month. She didn't like it for good reasons:
[15:22] <r3d2_> FarmTown wouldn't play properly (advanced flash in firefox)
[15:22] <ubunteezj> i cant figure this out
[15:22] <Oasa> r3d2 : why?
[15:22] <r3d2_> mirc wasn't as nice (because xchat isn't)
[15:22] <Oasa> r3d2_ : okay ... lol
[15:23] <r3d2_> And she just didn't like it.
[15:23] <Oasa> r3d2: are you a linux professional?
[15:23] <rsk> ofcourse she wont like it r3d2_ if you make her use it
[15:23] <hvgotcodes> dahlerus, is that a dot e space period?
[15:23] <Oasa> ALL : Can any one teach me/show me/guide me about advanced programming.
[15:23] <rsk> r3d2_, the mindset if you _want_ to try it is another thing
[15:23] <hvgotcodes> i mean colon e
[15:23] <Oasa> yes hvgtcodes
[15:23] <hvgotcodes> does nothing for me
[15:24] <r3d2_> No, I'm not a linux professional, I just MAKE HER HURT ;)
[15:24] <rsk> Oasa, define advanced programming
[15:24] <sunil> is any one there to help me
[15:24] <r3d2_> Tsk.. I like linux, it just wouldn't play ball for her, fair enough.
[15:24] <dahlerus> hvgotcodes: you press ESC, then colon e space .
[15:24] <refreshFSN> hello #ubuntu. anyone uses amarok 2.2 and some kind of 'noyplaying' script in irssi or similar?
[15:24] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, ah i think thats it.  now i just need to get it to be on the left
[15:24] <hvgotcodes> and always there
[15:24] <r3d2_> RhythmBox.
[15:24] <Oasa> hvgtcodes: so you got it.
[15:24] <dahlerus> hvgotcodes: or instead of the dot, you can use the name of a directory you want to browse
[15:25] <Oasa> ﻿rsk : i dont know . I know something anything after that it is all advanced for me.
[15:25] <r3d2_> RhythmBox is the ONLY piece of software than can handle 400GB of mp3s in various formats over a network.
[15:25] <pilif12p> Oasa: I came for help...
[15:25] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, almost, i saw someone who had it available permanently
[15:25] <rsk> Oasa, i can't understand your sentance
[15:25] <r3d2_> I've tried stacks of things
[15:25] <rsk> sorry
[15:25] <r3d2_> WinAMP dies.
[15:25] <refreshFSN> r3d2_: so you dont use amarok. ok
[15:25] <r3d2_> SongBird dies.
[15:26] <r3d2_> Amarok dies.
[15:26] <hvgotcodes> dahlerus, yes
[15:26] <Oasa> hvgotcodes: So that is actually you are talking about but you want it to be permanent eh?
[15:26] <sunil> my ubuntu is not working properly
[15:26] <Oasa> hvgtcodes : rather than man try vi : help and see if it helps
[15:26] <Oasa> what wrong sunil?
[15:26] <ubunteezj> hi, i have a question.. i don't know how to create a windows 7 usb from ubuntu with the iso.. is there a way?
[15:26] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, yes, the screen is split, and on the left is that selector, and on the right is the buffer you are editing
[15:26] <r3d2_> RhythmBox is the only thing I know that can handle a large stack of mp3s, over a network, with some (likely) corrupt id3 tags
[15:27]  * Pelo would like to take a minute to wish his sister-in-law a happy birthday
[15:27] <sunil> in my computer there are many 9.04 versons how to remove all those and re-install again
[15:27] <Oasa> hvgotcodes: Okay. so thats what you want right?
[15:27] <sunil> yah
[15:28] <sunil> can you help me
[15:28] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, sure thanx
[15:28] <jmyers> Anyone aware of an alternative to iTunes for the ipod touch yet?
[15:28] <Pelo> sunil, do you just mean old kernels ?
[15:28] <bastidrazor> sunil: when you are in the partition editor part of the install. choose to format the partition. that will get rid of them all
[15:28] <Oasa> hvgotcodes: YOu got it?
[15:28] <joshyfluff> Still need tablet help ; ;
[15:28] <Oasa> rsk : I dont know how to define adva ced programming. I meant anything i dont know is advanced for me.
[15:29] <luizbag> I think sunil just wanna get rid of old kernels
[15:29] <Frx> hello.
[15:29] <hvgotcodes> Oasa, not yet but ill figure it out
[15:29] <sunil> but i have xp also
[15:29] <rsk> Oasa, google howto learn C coding
[15:29] <r3d2_> I won't buy an iPod, because I'm a prick, also, because I hate DRM.
[15:29] <Oasa> hvgotcodes: try :help in vi its more useful than man.
[15:29] <joshyfluff> Has anyone managed to get a wacom bamboo tablet working in 9.10?
[15:29] <luizbag> sunil, check the synaptic for the linux kernels version you have installed
[15:29] <jmyers> r3d2_: I had the ipod touch before I had Ubuntu. hehe
[15:30] <Oasa> rsk: I want a human. I mean i have been doing that.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Merry Christamas To All ! :>)
[15:30] <Oasa> rsk: I learnt till Pointers and DMA.
[15:30] <joshyfluff> To you too ^^
[15:30] <luizbag> and uninstall the ones you don't need anymore
[15:30] <ubunteezj> hi, i have a question.. i don't know how to create a windows 7 usb from ubuntu with the iso.. is there a way?
[15:30] <Frx> is there some tool to check for the best sources in terms of speed and latency ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Merry Christamas To All ! :>)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:30] <rsk> Oasa, i guess you can hire a teacher of some sorts
[15:30] <Frx> using one atm just because it has low latency , but seems to have very poor speeds
[15:30] <Frx> any suggestions ?
[15:30] <vic> Merry xmas
[15:30] <Oasa> rsk: lol
[15:30] <Pranav> Why cant I do "man 2 open" ?
[15:30] <Pelo> sunil, just do a clean install of ubuntu
[15:30] <Frx> should i go testing them one by one manually ?
[15:31] <r3d2_> jmyers - they're sweet devices, don't get me wrong, they're just wrapped in DRM, and I don't want it. I've got a 4GB Samsung mp3 player, and it's like 2mm thick, and sweet as hell
[15:31] <joshyfluff> Meh
[15:31] <Oasa> ubunteez: What do you mean?
[15:31] <sunil> i am very new to ubuntu can you tell me in steps
[15:31] <Oasa> Does any one know how to partition a USB into two ? fdisk only ?
[15:32] <r3d2_> gparted?
[15:32] <ubunteezj> i have the windows 7 iso and would like to make it into a bootable usb key
[15:32] <joshyfluff> Good luck with that
[15:32] <ubunteezj> its for another computer
[15:32] <rsk> ubunteezj, ask in #windows
[15:32] <ubunteezj> yeah but im doing it in ubuntu
[15:32] <Oasa> r3d2_: is that t o me?
[15:32] <rsk> it's not possible
[15:32] <ubunteezj> ppl in #windows cant help me with that
[15:32] <Pelo> sunil, first backup your important data to a dvd or a cd or something,  then put in the ubuntu install cd and reboot, follow the instrucitons to install
[15:32] <r3d2_> I have a donkey, I'd like to make it into a bootable high-rise building..
[15:32] <Oasa> ubunteezj :its not possible as far as i can say.
[15:32] <ubunteezj> whattt
[15:32] <ubunteezj> really?
[15:32] <Oasa> sunil : what actually is your problem
[15:33] <rsk> yes really
[15:33] <r3d2_> Really, really.
[15:33] <ubunteezj> wow being a tech with linux sucks
[15:33] <Oasa> ubunteezj: Windows 7 cant be run from usb like other os (chrome)
[15:33] <trap2> Please, someone help me, I need to know help on system calls. I started with "man 2 open" but it says undocumented
[15:33] <ubunteezj> a tech is all about installing windows
[15:33] <rsk> ubunteezj, you can't do it in windows either
[15:33] <rsk> ubunteezj, why blaim that on linux?
[15:33] <ubunteezj> rsk yes i can
[15:33] <rsk> right then do that
[15:34] <ubunteezj> rsk microsoft even released a too to do it.
[15:34] <r3d2_> I love fixing my parents windows pcs. It's awesome.
[15:34] <joshyfluff> Go on then, pics or GTFO :D#
[15:34] <rsk> right then do that
[15:34] <ubunteezj> i dont have a pc with windows
[15:34] <sunil> if i do in that manner is it required to re-install xp and ubuntu once again
[15:34] <rsk> yea thoose are hard to find...
[15:34] <Oasa> r3d2 : lol
[15:34] <rsk> :)
[15:34] <ubunteezj> im counting on linux to help me with that
[15:34] <r3d2_> I do insist on remote adminsistration though.
[15:34] <trap2> Although "man 2 intro" works, how can I find help on specific kind of system call
[15:34] <joshyfluff> A badger :V
[15:34] <Oasa> sunil : You dont have to. Just Put your bootable Ubuntu and go for live session
[15:35] <Oasa> then diskpart and format your old ubuntu and reinstall it
[15:35] <ubunteezj> lol no wonder linux isnt as popular, support sucks!
[15:35] <tolpico> ubunteezj, you dont pay, so its not support
[15:36] <anonbadger> don't feed the inept computer user
[15:36] <Oasa> ubunteezj: You can create a bootable usb from which you can install 7. but i dont know if you can create a running windows 7
[15:36] <Sahkolihaa> Windows 7 on a USB? Yeouch on performance right there.
[15:36] <sunil> can you suggest how to master linux perfectly
[15:36] <adalal> ubunteezj: you have support for linux os like suse
[15:36] <r3d2_> That would hurt.
[15:36]  * captivus yawns at the troll's meagre attempts
[15:36] <ubunteezj> Oasa, how can u create a usb key from the iso in ubuntu? the format cant be read
[15:36] <r3d2_> I know how to master linux.
[15:36] <anonbadger> sunil: time,effort, rtceading,doing, e
[15:36]  * joshyfluff talks about himself in third person ":3"
[15:36] <bastidrazor> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html  sunil
[15:37] <adalal> ubunteezj: which is why you pay for those
[15:37] <Oasa> ubunteezj: Can you explain what actually you want to do.
[15:37] <r3d2_> I've been working on it for the last 10 years, I happen to use it day-in, day-out - I find it helps a lot.
[15:37] <farhad> can anybody help me with automount?
[15:37] <adalal> farhad: what's the problem?
[15:37] <Oasa> ﻿sunil : READ READ READ TRY TRY TRY thats the solution.
[15:37] <ubunteezj> i want to create a Bootable Windows 7 installation on the USB key so i can install it on another PC.
[15:37] <joshyfluff> I've been on it for 2 years ; ;
[15:37] <ubunteezj> i have the iso file and the empty usb key
[15:37] <r3d2_> SPOT ON:  READ READ READ TRY TRY TRY thats the solution.
[15:38] <farhad> adalal,  i resolved. automount does not parse /etc/auto.* files if they are +x
[15:38] <r3d2_> linux is NOT as easy as Windows - sometimes it WON'T play ball, but you can always MAKE it.
[15:38] <anonbadger> I have an HP dv6 and installed ubuntu on it. I get no sound The forum mentions disabling modem drivers. How do I do that?
[15:38] <adalal> ubunteezj: sound a bit absurd, because you need licensing and all... but here u go http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/
[15:38] <joshyfluff> Oh, question: In order to do something, I need to add lines to my Xorg.conf. However, 9.10 seems to have an empty Xorg.conf, and if I add anything to it, it screws everything up. What do I do now?
[15:38] <Oasa> ubuntueezj: and
[15:39] <ubunteezj> lol adalal, im using ubuntu
[15:39] <ubunteezj> i need a ubuntu guide
[15:39] <r3d2_>  READ READ READ TRY TRY TRY thats the solution. =D
[15:39] <Sahkolihaa> ubunteezj: How is Ubuntu going to know how to install Windows to a USB drive?
[15:39] <r3d2_> I'm just gonna keep that in the copy line :)
[15:39] <ubunteezj> LOL
[15:39] <ubunteezj> not INSTALL
[15:39] <ubunteezj> copy
[15:39] <ubunteezj> copy the iso file to the usb drive so i cant become bootable like a cd
[15:39] <joshyfluff> I have read read read and tried tried tried but to no avail ; ;
[15:39] <ubunteezj> *it can
[15:40] <r3d2_> In order to do WHAT you need to mod yor xorg.conf?
[15:40] <anonbadger> right make the usb drive the installer
[15:40] <Sahkolihaa> You can't copy the iso directly - you'd have to extract it's contents to the USB drive.
[15:40] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, In order to use trhis wacom bamboo tablet
[15:40] <adalal> ubunteezj: how about just copy and pasting every file? tried that?
[15:40] <r3d2_> joshyfluff - so mod away - what happens?
[15:40] <ubunteezj> adalal i can't the iso file is another format
[15:40] <ubunteezj> ubuntu cant extract it
[15:41] <Sahkolihaa> ubunteezj: Get your DVD and extract it directly from the disc?
[15:41] <adalal> ubunteezj: what format is it?
[15:41] <Sahkolihaa> copy, rather.
[15:41] <ubunteezj> lol my computer doesnt have a dvd drive
[15:41] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, well, The GUI goes out when I go to log in, instead of having the shiny blippy thing and the login screen I get a terminal, and no way of getting onto the f7 bit ; ;
[15:42] <r3d2_> joshy, tried ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to your main tty?
[15:42] <anonbadger> I have an HP dv6 and installed ubuntu on it. I get no sound The forum mentions disabling modem drivers. How do I do that?
[15:42] <ubunteezj> -ISO-13346
[15:42] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, yes, about 4 times
[15:42] <r3d2_> no dice?
[15:42] <joshyfluff> No dice. :I
[15:43] <tolpico> ubunteezj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216934  try renaming it .iso and follow the steps in that thread, it might help
[15:43] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, it also says that people who have no xorg.conf should have it work flawlessly, which mine doesn't.
[15:43] <r3d2_> hmmm... you prolly need some nice xorg parameters...
[15:43] <r3d2_> I used to have to tell x NOT to grab new devices when I was using a xbox 360 controller....
[15:43] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, http://audiophysical.squarespace.com/blog/2009/1/6/using-bamboo-wacom-in-ubuntu-is-a-12-step-program.html Says what I have been trying to do
[15:44] <ubunteezj> tolpico, same thing... doent work... and the file is not corrupt
[15:44] <adalal> ubunteezj: also linux assumes it to be iso9660, this page would help you http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=8492
[15:44] <Oasa> i want help.
[15:44] <r3d2_> Try the NOGRAB part from this: http://r3dux.org/?p=35
[15:44] <Oasa> i would like to know whether my infrared port work.
[15:45] <ubunteezj> adalal, thanks ill try that
[15:45] <r3d2_> joshy, if I can't help, I can't help - but I have blogged how to stop x from grabbing your device
[15:45] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, What would I put instead of xbox?
[15:45] <ubunteezj> brb
[15:45] <joshyfluff> r3d2_,  it is no biggie if you can't help, thanks for trying :D
[15:45] <Oasa> how to check if my infrared port's driver are loaded in ubuntu?
[15:45] <sunil> may i know what is synaptic of linux?
[15:46] <chuckf> Merry Christmas All!
[15:46] <joshyfluff> You too :D
[15:46] <adalal> You too chuckf
[15:46] <Oasa> sunil : Synaptic is package manager like ADD/REmove programs of windows
[15:46] <adalal> sunil: synaptic is a gui that shows all the files and descriptions
[15:46] <unop> !apt | sunil
[15:46] <bastidrazor> !synaptic | sunil ..check this guide
[15:46] <r3d2_> joshy - linux used to grab the mouse cursor when you'd put in a xbox controller, so that's all I can help with (stopping it grabbing) - no worries :)
[15:46] <adalal> sunil: all the programs in the added repositories will be there
[15:47] <adalal> sunil: you can ADD (literally unlike windows) or remove programs
[15:47] <Oasa> sunil: THe best thing about synaptic it contains many package names even those which arent installed are also there so that you can ADD programs..
[15:47] <joshyfluff> r3d2_,  I need it to grab the cursor, it controls the mouse D:
[15:47] <joshyfluff> the tablet, that is
[15:48] <soulkeeper> can someone help me install eclipse on karmic
[15:48] <r3d2_> I need to go back in time and stay with a girl called Anne :D
[15:48] <r3d2_> Life, eh?
[15:48] <sunil> how to install other softwares like ECLIPSE
[15:48] <joshyfluff> :D
[15:49] <Seeker`> r3d2_: please stop with the offtopic
[15:49] <joshyfluff> There is a topic? :O
[15:49] <bastidrazor> !info eclipse
[15:49] <r3d2_> Sorry, Seeker. My life is ONLY and EVER about linux.
[15:49] <soulkeeper> i did the sudo apt-get install eclipse
[15:49] <Seeker`> joshyfluff: support
[15:49] <Numerati> What are the best Ubuntu Christmas apps to install?
[15:49] <joshyfluff> Aah, thankyou
[15:49] <Oasa> what was the process manager of ubuntu lol i forgot it... i mean whats the gui of ps -x ?
[15:49] <Seeker`> r3d2_: you can talk about other stuff, just not in this channel
[15:50] <soulkeeper> but i need to have eclipse-cdt installed
[15:50] <r3d2_> ?
[15:50] <adalal> sunil: it's probably in the repository, or try sudo apt-get install eclipse
[15:50] <r3d2_> So what do you want of me?
[15:50] <adalal> sunil: on the terminal
[15:50] <r3d2_> Do you want me to help people if I'm able to?
[15:50] <r3d2_> Or ?
[15:50] <Numerati> What are the best Ubuntu Christmas apps to install?
[15:50] <anonbadger> yes
[15:50] <anonbadger> help
[15:50] <joshyfluff> r3d2_, we could be all badman and totally PM and talk about random stuff :O
[15:50] <adalal> Oasa: system monitor
[15:50] <Oasa> thanks adalal
[15:50] <r3d2_> Okay.
[15:51] <Oasa> no adalal its not
[15:51] <Seeker`> r3d2_: in this channel, help people if you are able, and stop the offtopic chatter
[15:51] <Seeker`> i've already told you about #ubuntu-offtopic once today
[15:51] <r3d2_> Look - sorry. It's been an interesting night for me. I understand that should not translate to this channel.
[15:51] <Oasa> adalal yeah you were right.
[15:51] <soulkeeper> im lost here
[15:51] <adalal> lol @ Oasa
[15:51] <Numerati> r3dux What are the best Ubuntu Christmas apps to install?
[15:51] <Numerati> r3d2_ What are the best Ubuntu Christmas apps to install?
[15:51] <soulkeeper> could some1 tell me my there is a eclipse folder in /usr/lib
[15:51] <soulkeeper> when i uninstalled it
[15:52] <soulkeeper> i need to installed eclipse-cdt
[15:52] <r3d2_> That would be offtopic Numerati ;)
[15:52] <Oasa> adalal what i actually asked was the exec name... so that i can open it from alt+f2
[15:52] <Numerati> r3d2_ it is Ubuntu related, you silly little man
[15:52] <Supersaiyan_IV> Numerati, compiz snowflake effect
[15:52] <Oasa> adalal r3d2 or any one else ... how to check if my IR is working
[15:52] <Numerati> Supersaiyan_IV thank you very much
[15:52] <adalal> Oasa: gnome-system-monitor
[15:52] <kitaz> sveiki
[15:53] <Oasa> i figured it out thanx adalal.
[15:53] <sunil> i got  Couldn't find package eclipse after running sudo apt-get install eclipse on my terminal
[15:53] <adalal> Oasa: tried lspci?
[15:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> Numerati, it can be enabled in compizconfig settings manager
[15:53] <adalal> oasa to see if it's being picked up?
[15:53] <Oasa> !ispci
[15:53] <r3d2_> I'm going to have a cigarette, and come back with a really good list of software.
[15:53] <Numerati> Supersaiyan_IV thank you, I am doing so immediately
[15:53] <adalal> Oasa: sudo lspci
[15:53] <Oasa> oooh LS PCI okay
[15:54] <adalal> r3d2_: lol, im going out for one as well :P
[15:54] <soulkeeper> well how do i remove the eclipse folder in /usr/lib
[15:54] <joshyfluff> I'm too young to smoke ; ;
[15:54] <Oasa> adalal : What will be the name? i cant see IRda port
[15:55] <adalal> Oasa: paste the output to pastebin.com and give me the link
[15:55] <luite> is it possible to have a usable windows 2003 vm in ubuntu 9.10 using kvm? using raw images or lvm cause the vm not to boot (unknown hard error), qcow2 is so excruciatingly slow that it's unusable for vm's that do a fair bit of disk access
[15:55] <vadi01> guys how do i get these monitors located on the lest
[15:55] <vadi01> left
[15:55] <vadi01> http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/89831-1.jpg
[15:55] <Numerati> joshyfluff I want you to promise you'll never start
[15:55] <Numerati> joshyfluff promise!
[15:55]  * joshyfluff promises ":l"
[15:56] <Numerati> I'm going to accept that
[15:56] <adalal> Oasa: alternatively, install gnome-device-manager, and see if you can locate it there
[15:56] <kitaz> #ubuntu-lt
[15:56] <Oasa> okay adalal.
[15:57] <vadi01> please tell me how to load the monitors located on the left of this screenshot. http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/89831-1.jpg
[15:57] <vadi01> whats the name of the program
[15:57] <adalal> Oasa: if you need me to go through paste the output to 'sudo lspci' on pastebin, and give me a link here, and one in my PM if i dont respond :)
[15:58] <joshyfluff> I told bamboo I was left handed and it put me as right anyway ; ;
[15:58] <joshyfluff> Silly windows 7 :D
[15:58] <rdeshpande> yo dudes
[15:58] <m0rph1as> lol win 7.  the only thing its good for is gaming :/
[15:59] <vadi01> adalal, can you help me?
[15:59] <Andre> m0rph1as: do you use photoshop and autocad in linux?
[15:59] <vadi01> with my issue above
[15:59] <rdeshpande> i have sun-java6-jre installed, and i have the alternatives set up, but for some reason everytime i try to install solr it tries to install gcj. any ideas?
[15:59] <Andre> m0rph1as: or catwalk, protools?
[15:59] <adalal> vadi01: let me read
[15:59] <m0rph1as> andre, I have used photoshop cs3 once in linux yes...
[16:00] <m0rph1as> but not hardcore... i mainly stick with GIMP as much as possible
[16:00] <Andre> m0rph1as: was it wine or emulated?
[16:00] <bastidrazor> vadi01: it looks like some form of conky, but i'm not sure
[16:00] <Oasa> adalal : if my IRDA is working fine..... I would like to make myself a remote can you help me on that?
[16:00] <vadi01> bastidrazor, k thanks
[16:00] <adalal> vadi01: what do you mean? physical monitors? or virtual desktops?
[16:00] <m0rph1as> WINE... but it was a pain, needs a combination of dll files.
[16:00] <Andre> m0rph1as: i take it everything functioned as well as running it natively in windows then
[16:00] <adalal> Oasa: i can give you limited support on that, but sure
[16:01] <m0rph1as> for the most part yes.  im just not much of a graphics designer though, did it for testing.
[16:01] <vadi01> adalal: physical monitors
[16:01] <petsounds> vadi01, that's just screenlets
[16:01] <Supersaiyan_IV> Where did "compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported" disappear in 9.10 ?
[16:02] <vadi01> petsounds, thanks!
[16:02] <Oasa> okay adalal can i have your email id.
[16:02] <r3d2_> I'm not much of a graphic designer, but I set graphic design problems for my students. And sometimes they rock it.
[16:04] <r3d2_> Supersaiyan_IV, are you unhappy with compiz in 9.10?
[16:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> r3d2_, no I am asking a question
[16:05] <r3d2_> As was I - no worries :)
[16:05] <adalal> vadi01: i dont exactly understand what the problem is
[16:06] <vadi01> adalal, its ok i sorted it
[16:06] <Supersaiyan_IV> r3d2_, i know the "compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported" is in the ppa, but there is no reason stated as to why it isn't in the repositories
[16:06] <adalal> vadi01: cool, what theme is that anyways?
[16:06] <r3d2_> compiz has been very well behaved in 9.10 in my experience. It WILL fall over, given time, and throw all your windows to a single window, but that's not the end of the world.
[16:07] <Daughain> And again.....
[16:07] <r3d2_> I set things back to metacity before I use a lot of Open Office because I've found that trips it up
[16:08] <r3d2_> but apart from that, compiz is minty goodness.
[16:08] <ubunteez> thts what she said
[16:08] <r3d2_> hehe
[16:08] <DNS777> happy holidays @ all
[16:08] <ubunteez> so now i copied the iso file to the usb key
[16:09] <ubunteez> but now its not bootable
[16:09] <r3d2_> If your bios will boot from USB
[16:09] <r3d2_> Also, NO.
[16:10] <ubunteez> my bios will boot from it but i copied windows 7 iso to the usb directly
[16:10] <r3d2_> You can't just chuck an ISO on a USB stick. You'd need to extract the contents of the iso, at minimum.
[16:10] <ubunteez> i didnt copy the iso i extracted it to the usb
[16:10] <r3d2_> Ah, more like it :)
[16:10] <ubunteez> but its not bootable... does ubuntu have an app to make it bootable for the windows install?
[16:11] <petsounds> please use usb startup disk creator or unetbootin
[16:11] <vadi01> adalal, http://www.techiesouls.com/2008/11/27/collection-of-50-best-looking-linux-gnomeubuntu-themes-to-download/
[16:11] <adalal> ubunteez: as far as i'm aware, that's gonna b difficult, cuz of the way windows structures the install
[16:11] <adwyn> hello, and Happy Christmas everyone. Anyone know what "Bios bootup message" in Xorg.0.log refers to?
[16:11] <adalal> vadi01: thanks
[16:11] <r3d2_> It means that you've been very naughty this year, adalal ;)
[16:11] <adalal> ubunteez: it helps them reduce fraud
[16:11] <adalal> r3d2_: how's that?
[16:12] <ubunteez> so i cant make the windows 7 usb key bootable from ubuntu?
[16:12] <adalal> r3d2_: and you know nothin of me hehehe
[16:12] <ubunteez> adalal, he checked your porn
[16:12] <adalal> ubunteez: would be one hell of a task, ur better off buying a usb cd drive
[16:12] <r3d2_> adalal - just a joke.
[16:12] <adalal> ubunteez: sigh, if only i did, having a gf helps u know :P
[16:12] <adalal> dw
[16:13] <Daughain> anyone know where in mozilla I can find the bookmarks file?
[16:13] <adalal> Daughain: u mean firefox?
[16:13] <anonbadger> yeah a $20 usb cd drive is a work around
[16:13] <adalal> Daughain: it stores it as a database, under .mozilla/firefox/ ... well, that's for firefox
[16:14] <r3d2_> Daughain - just export 'em as .json
[16:14] <Daughain> Ya, that much Iknow, which file is it? =)
[16:14] <r3d2_> ~/.mozilla/firefox
[16:14] <poseidon> thinking of getting one of these http://tinyurl.com/ygdtrs2
[16:15] <poseidon> any opinions?
[16:15] <adalal> Daughain: if you want backups, firefox creates them under .mozilla/firefox/<profile>/bookmarkbackups/
[16:15] <r3d2_> Yes - don't.
[16:15] <r3d2_> URL shorteners are the beginning of the end.
[16:15] <ubunteez> damn this sucks
[16:15] <r3d2_> As soon as your URL shortener of choices dies - all your links die.
[16:15] <adalal> lol they are, why bother with them? unless you're tryin to really hide something
[16:16] <adalal> ubunteez: look up if they have usb image torrents of win 7 im sure people have it out there
[16:16] <r3d2_> It's BITROT - don't do it.
[16:16] <Snausages> r3d2_: for fun I was working on a script that would put an url through a chain of those, just to see how many redirects was enough
[16:16] <ubunteez> adalal, what if i install windows 7 on a virtual box and create the usb key fro mthere?
[16:16] <r3d2_> lol Snausages
[16:16] <r3d2_> How far did it go?
[16:16] <Snausages> r3d2_: different browsers did it different ways...  firefox would hold it through 8 or 9
[16:17] <ubunteez> are the usb keys on a virtual box read the same way?
[16:17] <adalal> ubunteez: not a bad plan at all, but best of luck spending the next 2 hours doing that
[16:17] <ubunteez> lol
[16:17] <ubunteez> no choice for the momenty
[16:17] <ubunteez> thanks for the help
[16:17] <adalal> or longer .. much much longer
[16:17] <adalal> yeah
[16:17] <Snausages> r3d2_: plus bonus wear leveling on the urls...  they would run out of short urls at the same rate
[16:17] <r3d2_> Snausages, I applaud your curiosity :) But damn! That would break super-soon :)
[16:18] <Snausages> r3d2_: perfect for the most sensitive information....  makes people get it while it's hot
[16:19] <r3d2_> I don't know enough about url-shortener time-outs... 8 characters is, 8 factorial, so quite a bit
[16:20] <adalal> lol, much more than 8!
[16:20] <r3d2_> I've read a bit about the coming bit-rot apocolypse, and I don't agree,
[16:20] <r3d2_> No, 8!, that's how many digits exist to work with. Math is math.
[16:21] <adalal> well, that's assuming 8! are only numericals..
[16:21] <r3d2_> You have to use the alphabet
[16:21] <adalal> they can be any characters :S
[16:21] <r3d2_> I see what you meant
[16:21] <adalal> ah
[16:22] <r3d2_> Yup - get ya
[16:23] <r3d2_> So, 36 characters (0 to 9, A to Z) - now assume you have 8 characters, from the prev, that would be....
[16:24] <r3d2_> I have no idea, I can only work out percentages for each character
[16:25] <r3d2_> I was never as good at math as I wanted to be, and it'd been 18 years since I practiced.
[16:25] <anonbadger> working out unique combos?
[16:26] <r3d2_> I can break it up, chance by chance simple - I'm no good for anything more than that.
[16:26] <adalal> yup
[16:26] <airstrike> so, for some reason, whenever i set a static ip (instead of dhcp) on my network manager, i get VERY slow DNS lookups. what gives?
[16:26] <adalal> for a 8 character code, it'd b 36^8
[16:27] <r3d2_> airstrike - I changed my DNS the other day by choice.
[16:27] <Joe__> need some help with an upgrade to 9.10  I use mdadm and now two of my arrarys won't activate after the upgrade
[16:27] <Daughain> So much for that......Now on to samba......
[16:27] <adalal> talking of which, which dns would you suggest?
[16:27] <Joe__> mdadm -As says no devices found for both of them
[16:27] <airstrike> r3d2_: i've tried different servers, but they are all still very slow
[16:27] <adalal> im setting up my own, but i need a forwarder
[16:27] <adalal> google is SLOWW
[16:27] <stygian> hi, i did the "Try to fix the x server" thing in recovery mode.  How do I revert to the original configurations?
[16:27] <anonbadger> 36x35x34x33x32x31x30x29
[16:27] <kain_> does anyone know how go get an ipod touch to work in ubuntu?
[16:27] <comatoast> hi i need help
[16:27] <comatoast> :[
[16:27] <adalal> stygian: that is the original config :P
[16:28] <airstrike> r3d2_: I've tried OpenDNS, Google, and my ISP..
[16:28] <r3d2_> I ran a program called netstrike or something, and it checks all the DNS servers around you, and picks the best - you can then use the fastest DNS, or not.
[16:28] <stygian> hm
[16:28] <adalal> kain_: plug it in, and turn on rhythmbox
[16:28] <kain_> k i'll try
[16:28] <airstrike> r3d2_: i'll try that
[16:28] <zauk> can someone link me to yesterday's log of this channel? I can't seem to find it.
[16:28] <anonbadger> kain_: use floola to put media on it
[16:28] <adalal> google was slow, i didn't know how to configure to search with google in opendns
[16:29] <r3d2_> airstrike - this is a long url - I hope I don't get kicked:
[16:29] <adalal> and well, i dont want to use virgin media dns, it's annoying
[16:29] <r3d2_> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/find-the-fastest-dns-to-optimize-your-internet-speed-with-namebench/
[16:29] <airstrike> not that long, it seems :) thanks!
[16:29] <llutz> adalal: isn't it (36^8)-1 ?
[16:29] <r3d2_> I should have just said namebench, really - shouldn't I?
[16:29] <adalal> llutz: why the -1?
[16:30] <llutz> adalal: theres no zero
[16:30] <Swag> Ummm can i get some help?
[16:30] <Swag> Ummm can i get some help??
[16:30] <r3d2_> Umm, can you ask a question?
[16:30] <Swag> please
[16:31] <r3d2_> No. Really.
[16:31] <Swag> sorry i didnt mean to type that twice :[
[16:31] <adalal> !help
[16:31] <r3d2_> Ask a question.
[16:31] <r3d2_> lol
[16:31] <Swag> lol my hardrive isnt supported with ubuntu
[16:31] <anonbadger> A question. Ask one.
[16:31] <adalal> llutz: no zero?
[16:31] <Swag> wat do
[16:31] <Swag> my external
[16:31] <Swag> and my internet isnt ither
[16:31] <adalal> Swag: what hd is it?
[16:31] <llutz> adalal: arg, i'm wrong, forget me
[16:31] <Swag> i use cricket internet satalight
[16:31] <r3d2_> My internal and my external.
[16:31] <adalal> dont worry
[16:31] <r3d2_> Blue.
[16:32] <r3d2_> Seventeen.
[16:32] <Swag> seagate adala
[16:32] <anonbadger> Swag what type of modem is it?
[16:32] <Swag> adalal*
[16:32] <Swag> seagate 250gb
[16:32] <kain_> adalal : i opened rhythmbox but i don't see my ipdo
[16:32] <adalal> Swag, if it's a sata, it should work..
[16:32] <anonbadger> Swag type sudo fdisk -l
[16:32] <adalal> kain_: which ipod is it again?
[16:32] <hoelk> histo, im looking for a simpl ebackup/sync program for copying a folder from HD1 to HD2. Not bidirection; HD2 should always be brought to the state of HD1
[16:32] <kain_> ipod touch
[16:32] <Swag> im not on ubuntu yet
[16:32] <Swag> im about to make the switch
[16:32] <Swag> and i have 2 problums
[16:32] <adalal> Swag: how are you sure it doesn't work then?
[16:32] <Swag> that i need to fix b4 i do
[16:33] <Swag> ]becuz i used a vert machine
[16:33] <anonbadger> Just install ubuntu alongside windows
[16:33] <r3d2_> This is amazing.
[16:33] <anonbadger> and figure it out then
[16:33] <Swag> to see what worked and didnt :]
[16:33] <anonbadger> hmmm
[16:33] <Swag> Also my cricket internet modem isnt working for ubuntu
[16:34] <adalal> Swag: that's probably gotta do with your virtualbox, install a wubi version of ubuntu and then try it
[16:34] <Swag> witch unfortinatly is my sorce of internet
[16:34] <anonbadger> what type of modem?
[16:34] <gui7> any better way than brasero to burn an iso?
[16:34] <Swag> well i have also had these problums on my buddies computer with ubuntu
[16:34] <r3d2_> Any type, or use k3b
[16:34] <Swag> hang on
[16:34] <AlexIte> Get a free cd
[16:34] <Swag> lemme get a pic of the modem
[16:34] <r3d2_> k3b is nice enough.
[16:34] <anonbadger> put a cd in a fire
[16:34] <anonbadger> and help homeless people get warm
[16:35] <r3d2_> It'll burn cds of mp3s than brasero won't.
[16:35] <Daughain> ANyone know the path to edit the smb.conf?
[16:35] <adalal> kain_: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/use-iphone-and-ipod-touch-for-ubuntu-810/
[16:35] <r3d2_> anonbadger - homeless people don't have awsome fire-based cd-players...
[16:36] <Swag> anonbadger
[16:36] <Swag> http://images03.olx.com/ui/3/37/97/51873097_2.jpg
[16:36] <Swag> thats the modem
[16:36] <r3d2_> locate smb.conf
[16:36] <r3d2_> ffs
[16:36] <anonbadger>  /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[16:36] <adalal> Daughain: try man samba, it has all the instructions there
[16:36] <anonbadger> lol Swag
[16:37] <anonbadger> nice picture
[16:37] <adalal> Swag: what's the make and model? what does it connect with? ethernet or usb?
[16:37] <adalal> Swag: pictures dont help
[16:37] <milly> Hello
[16:37] <AlexIte> sometimes they do
[16:37] <adalal> hello
[16:37] <r3d2_> Pictures help.
[16:37] <sixtila> just switched to ubuntu64, the software center doesnt seem to work!
[16:37] <totam> hello
[16:37] <milly> someone want to chat?
[16:37] <sixtila> cant install anything
[16:37] <adalal> very few times really.. but it's easier to work with facts :P
[16:37] <totam> I have a question
[16:37] <Swag> it connects with satalight :3
[16:37] <r3d2_> Ubuntu doesn't work. Get over it.
[16:37] <Swag> and i dont know the make and model number cuz well the modem gets really fing hot
[16:38] <anonbadger> Swag what type of cable does it connect to your PC with?
[16:38] <Swag> and it all fadded away :[
[16:38] <Swag> usb
[16:38] <AlexIte> look on the bottem of the modem
[16:38] <totam> how can we know the admin of a channel in irc
[16:38] <Daughain> Thanks all.,
[16:38] <r3d2_> It used to be a real tough day to get linux to run a software modem, I hope you never have that issue.
[16:38] <velcroshooz> is there a way to move the osd notifier in 9.10? its like halfway down my desktop
[16:39] <Swag> theres no bottom lol, It has it all on the backside of it. it just doesnt work with anything linux ;/ and its shitty i hate it and i need new net
[16:39] <anonbadger> I use a wireless 3G modem from usb
[16:39] <anonbadger> shit's SO cash
[16:39] <Swag> you use a wireless 3g modem?
[16:39] <Snausages> r3d2_: both of my usb modems worked perfectly on karmic- I was impressed.
[16:39] <anonbadger> yep
[16:39] <AlexIte> usb is harder to set up,at least for me
[16:39] <anonbadger> in Ubuntu
[16:39] <Swag> humm
[16:39] <Swag> well i called up cricket support
[16:39] <adalal> i use my phone as a 3g modem half the time
[16:39] <Swag> and they pretty much told me i was fucked
[16:39] <anonbadger> in 8.10 I had to hack ubuntu to get it to work
[16:39] <anonbadger> now it just works
[16:39] <adalal> and the other half of i used my 50 mbit :P
[16:40] <adalal> yea..
[16:40] <adalal> use*
[16:40] <Swag> so i jsut works on they new ubutnu
[16:40] <sixtila> just found out i have no sound!
[16:40] <anonbadger> yes
[16:40] <AlexIte> adalal:whats your isp?
[16:40] <anonbadger> It just works.
[16:40] <Swag> humm lemme duel install and try it out on the new ubuntu
[16:40] <Dreaman> весела коледа хакери :)
[16:40] <sixtila> i had no problem with audio in 32, in 64 i dont have sound
[16:40] <Swag> thanks for they help :3
[16:40] <AlexIte> *whos your isp
[16:40] <adalal> AlexIte: virgin media
[16:40] <Swag> ill brb if i got any problums
[16:40] <anonbadger> Swag I anticipate a problem.
[16:40] <r3d2_> You've got problums
[16:41] <anonbadger> you will have the wrong DNS IP address in the connection wizard
[16:41] <anonbadger> like I did
[16:41] <anonbadger> maybe
[16:41] <anonbadger> so come back if it doesn't work
[16:41] <AlexIte> Who here used wubi to install ubuntu?
[16:41] <adalal> i used it on my gf's laptop when she wanted to try it out
[16:41] <Daughain> Which is better to deal with an existing windows network; samba or samba4?
[16:41] <Daughain> Whats wubi?
[16:41] <m4rtin> AlexIte: I used it about a year ago when I first tentatively switched to Ubuntu
[16:42] <Andre> Daughain: installs ubuntu from windows
[16:42] <AlexIte> Windows ubuntu isntall basically
[16:42] <adalal> wubi allows u to install ubuntu in windows
[16:42] <r3d2_> I installed from disk. On day 1. Yes, I'm both useless and gay
[16:42] <sixtila> can anyone help me get my sound back - i dunno where to start
[16:42] <r3d2_> Apart from the gay bit.
[16:42] <adalal> and when u start up the computer, it uses the windows start up, and loops into the ubuntu image
[16:42] <sixtila> i m on 64bit
[16:42] <AlexIte> I used ubuntu when i was testing out ubuntu
[16:42] <Daughain> Ah.....Nope, got pissed at windows and wiped the drive.......Never tried that.
[16:42] <r3d2_> 64bit ftw
[16:42] <kasimon> Hi. How can I install ubuntu on an System I have no keyboard for?
[16:43] <r3d2_> I've got 4GB of RAM - unsurprisingly, I'd like to use it.
[16:43] <AlexIte> Go and get a keyboard?
[16:43] <anonbadger> I installed Ubuntu alongside windows and then one day decided to dd the windows partition
[16:43] <adalal> kasimon: get a usb keyboard? put in the alternative install disc, and choose install over ssh?>
[16:43] <AlexIte> I need WINDOWS to run certain things
[16:43] <Daughain> Any advice on samba?
[16:43] <anonbadger> dd if/dev/urandom
[16:43] <adalal> anonbadger: the only reason why i have to keep my win7 partition is cuz i use proprietory software, and they only have windows version of it
[16:43] <adalal> and it doesn't work on wine either...
[16:43] <sixtila> need help to get the sound back,
[16:43] <AlexIte> adalal:same here
[16:43] <r3d2_> I run a VirtualBox copy of XP to run certain things.
[16:44] <adalal> lol, would work as long as the software isn't cpu intensive
[16:44] <kasimon> AlexIte, adalal: I don't want to wait till monday. All shops are closed. I'm thinking about modifying the usb alternate installer to launch an ssh server
[16:44] <jacob_> Yea virtualbox is the way to go as long as its not a big program
[16:44] <anonbadger> I have never played with virtualisation
[16:44] <r3d2_> My virtual box HD has grown to 21GB - and you can't resize it down
[16:44] <AlexIte> the games wont work/would be laggy
[16:45] <r3d2_> Oh well
[16:45] <madagascar27> is there an easy way to delete a partition you made with ubuntu
[16:45] <sixtila> i have no sound, should i install alsa or pulse ?
[16:45] <Daughain> Alsa.
[16:45] <anonbadger> oh man r3d2_ that's shit
[16:45] <adalal> well kasimon, take out the HD... plug it into ur current computer, install it, and move the HD back
[16:45] <AlexIte> LOL right beside be is a ubuntu 9.04 CD
[16:45] <sixtila> madagascar27 use gparted , download it
[16:45] <r3d2_> anonbadger, ORLY? :)
[16:45] <anonbadger> someone help sixtila
[16:45] <jacob_> madagascar27: use gparted or boot from ubuntu disk
[16:46] <anonbadger> It is relevant tomy interests
[16:46] <madagascar27> sixtila what do i do with gparted do i put it on a disk
[16:46] <r3d2_> sixtila, whatever works - I'd go with alsa first
[16:46] <kasimon> adalal: that might be an option. both are sata systems,so it should work
[16:47] <adalal> kasimon: just remember to install a ssh server, and if you're doing that, might as well only install the barebone version
[16:47] <AlexIte> The first time I used ubuntu,I gave up because i couldn't get the internet to work =(
[16:47] <airstrike> madagascar27: you can just run gparted from a live cd, it's probably your best bet (if you can't run it within the actual OS, that is)
[16:47] <r3d2_> anonbadger, here's some music: http://r3dux.org/2009/10/phoenix-rome/
[16:47] <adalal> AlexIte: that's the reason i stuck to it, and solved it :
[16:47] <adalal> :P
[16:47] <Daughain> Can anyone tel me simply what the difference tween samba and samba4 is?
[16:47] <kasimon> adalal: the system is supposed to run as a headless vdr system, so I'll use alternate install anyways
[16:47] <airstrike> madagascar27: you could also try one of those very small linux distros that can fit on an usb stick and run gparted from it
[16:48] <r3d2_> Addict till it fall fall falls.....
[16:48] <AlexIte> There are some Linux Distros that work on a floppy disk
[16:48] <anonbadger> r3d2_: I have no sound
[16:48] <r3d2_> Not anymore there aren't.
[16:48] <anonbadger> I think I might need to disable my modem driver
[16:48] <adalal> well, the bareback version of ubuntu is only 12mb ...
[16:48] <airstrike> usb stick > floppy
[16:48] <adalal> that'd go well on a floppy
[16:48] <Daughain> anonbadger, Try alsa.
[16:48] <kasimon> adalal: It's the first system I've encountered that doesn't have an ps2 keyboard connector
[16:48] <AlexIte> I dont have anymore floppies
[16:48] <sixtila> anyone having problem with software enter in 64bit??
[16:49] <ManDay> AUTOMOUNT!
[16:49] <r3d2_> F*ck floppys - are you kidding? What you you want to do with a floppy disk?
[16:49] <airstrike> sixtila: is 'enter' the name of the software?
[16:49] <sixtila> AlexIte I just installed ubuntu from flash drive!
[16:49] <anonbadger> Daughain: I have tried alsa
[16:49] <adalal> kasimon: most new systems dont ahve it anymore, they all start using usb only
[16:49] <ManDay> Why does it not work?
[16:49] <sixtila> haha, its center
[16:49] <ManDay> Whenever I plug in a USB stick or SD card, NOTHING happens...
[16:49] <Daughain> sixtila, make sure your net connection is working, and update your sources.
[16:49] <myk_robinson> Hey. If i use Firestarter to share an internet connection to my Xbox 360, will i need a crossover cable, or just a standard ethernet cable between the ubuntu PC and the xbox?
[16:49] <AlexIte> I am paranoid about adding important information on usbs
[16:49] <sixtila> Daughain i will update and see what happens
[16:50] <Joe__> ok, I'm running out of ideas... for some reason after upgrading to 9.10 ubuntu won't mount my mdadm made arrays.  It appears /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 are not mounted at all (those are two drives in one of the arrays)
[16:50] <adalal> myk_robinson: normally a crossover, but most newer ethernet ports have detectors that switch over automatically
[16:50] <r3d2_> myk - you can share through youre router
[16:50] <Daughain> anonbadger, I dunno, then.....With 9.04 I had to tinkwer with alsa to get my sound working. 9.10 I didnt have that issue.
[16:50] <anonbadger> yeah i have 9.04 on three machines
[16:50] <AlexIte> 8.10 my sound wouldn't work I had to do something,i cant remember right now
[16:50] <anonbadger> this is the first to have the issue
[16:51] <myk_robinson> r3d2_: my router is not close enough without having a very long cable. Just being cheap and not buying a 360 wireless adatper. I have a PC attached to the tv for media
[16:51] <irwan> iyujjl7'ik
[16:51] <irwan> jljky
[16:51] <irwan> klklhkl
[16:51] <irwan> klhkl
[16:51] <FloodBot2> irwan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <irwan> l
[16:51] <Daughain> anonbadger, All I can say is tinker with alsa. Thats how I got mine working.
[16:51] <adalal> yes irwan
[16:51] <r3d2_> I think I'm the only drunk with Cisco Certification here - you can share it through your router, if you have access.
[16:51] <oncoi> babi
[16:52] <petsounds> watch your language oncoi !!
[16:52] <isolat3dsh33p> !wtf
[16:52] <anonbadger> how get bappy pregnat?
[16:52] <isolat3dsh33p> !ot
[16:53] <Daughain> r2d2; ok, so, which is better for an exosting windows network; samba or samba4?
[16:53] <karp_> anyone got problems on 9.10 with  VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] and quakelive / cedega gaming? i can play for a couple of minutes before my games start to run slow and theres a weird noise coming from the hdd
[16:53] <r3d2_> myk - you'd need ethernet to your 360, the wireless 360 kit is rip off - it's stupid expensive
[16:53] <Daughain> r3d2_; ok, so, which is better for an exosting windows network; samba or samba4?
[16:53] <r3d2_> Best to wire it via cat5
[16:54] <r3d2_> I have no idea - I've only used samba and cifs - both work fine to stream music and films
[16:54] <adalal> samba4 is a version of samba
[16:54] <adalal> and installing samba should install samba4
[16:54] <mobi-sheep> Daughain: Any sentences with "Windows" in it is a failed sentence. I'd guess Samba instead man page say Samba4 is intended for *nixes.  is
[16:54] <r3d2_> I've not used samba4
[16:54] <JoeSomebody> MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE may you have Peace, Love and Lots Of Money this New Year :)
[16:54] <ManDay> Whenever I plug in a USB stick or SD card, NOTHING happens... Please help with that AUTOmount
[16:55] <Bac9> how can I open a msft powerpoint presentation in ooimpress without having it autostart and grab keyboard/mouse?
[16:55] <Daughain> mobi; cant help it, girl wont switch. Thanks, though.
[16:55] <adalal> ManDay: does it show up on sudo fdisk -l?
[16:55] <nlko> does ubuntu support marvel yukon wireless cards out of the box? debian doesnt seem to
[16:55] <Daughain> adalal, Instaling samba doesnt install samba4, thats why I was asking about it.
[16:55] <r3d2_> How can you wangle a dongle with a wangle and not a dogle but only using a 32 bit wangle and not smoking too much crack?
[16:55] <mobi-sheep> !hardware | nlko
[16:55] <bastidrazor> !hardware | nlko
[16:56] <kasimon> adalal: thanks for your ideas
[16:56] <ManDay> adalal, no but it shows up in /dev
[16:56] <mobi-sheep> bastidrazor: Jinx. ;)
[16:56] <adalal> Daughain: just install samba, it works quite well
[16:56] <totam> hello everybody
[16:56] <totam> how can we know the admin of a channel in irc
[16:56] <totam>  
[16:56] <doug__> hello, I have an atheros wireless card and i can't see my network.  I see other networks just not mine.  It works on my ps3 and my windows machine.  when i go to hardware drivers there aren't any proprietary drivers there, and all the google searches i've done have mentioned those, how can i get those?
[16:56] <bastidrazor> mobi-sheep: great minds think alike
[16:56] <adalal> totam: why theinterest?
[16:57] <adalal> doug__: does it show up using sudo iwlist <interface> scanning?
[16:57] <totam> @adalal, because it s important
[16:57] <totam> if we want to demand something
[16:57] <totam> we demand to the admin
[16:57] <doug__> it doesn't look l;ike it..
[16:57] <r3d2_> I have a atheros wireless card. THIS is your key. google atheros wireless card driver. Google atheros wireless driver undeground while I'm being a neusance to sheep.
[16:57] <mobi-sheep> totam: Look at User List. Ops are usually on top and have special character/icon in front of their nicknames.
[16:58] <adalal> like floodbot has op privs
[16:59] <totam> mobi-sheep: thx, but, it s one, or can be more than wan admin & op
[16:59] <r3d2_> I have a common make of wireless network card, but for the life of me I can't be bothered to look up any problems I have!
[16:59] <r3d2_> Sheesh!
[16:59] <jessica_> hi, my laptop has an ATI RS690M video card, which is i guess a Radeon X1200.  but the restricted drivers manager doesn't show fglrx as an option.
[16:59] <anonbadger> I can only choose pulse null output in sound preferences. Ghey.
[16:59] <doug__> I have looked them up, and i am only finding windows drivers
[16:59] <jessica_> does it make sense that i force-install fglrx?
[16:59] <bastidrazor> jessica_: which version of ubuntu?
[16:59] <adalal> jessica_: does it show any thing else?
[16:59] <totam> mobi-sheep: for exemple in this room, who is the admin
[16:59] <jessica_> bastidrazor, latest, 64 bit too
[16:59] <jessica_> 9.10 i think?
[16:59] <jessica_> just installed this morning.
[16:59] <r3d2_> I would like you to help me with my common brand of wireless card, which might or might not work with ubuntu. Not that I care.
[17:00] <anonbadger> jessica run uname -a
[17:00] <Daughain> ANd now to see if I remembered this right... =)
[17:00] <bastidrazor> jessica_: it should be installed without any user interaction. i have the same card and all works fine without any doing on my part
[17:00] <ManDay> adalal, no but it shows up in /dev
[17:00] <adalal> totam: no admins present in this room right now... from the looks of it
[17:00] <ManDay> Whenever I plug in a USB stick or SD card, NOTHING happens... Please help with that AUTOmount
[17:00] <jessica_> adalal, i'm just looking at the xorg log and it says --) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:791f:1028:01fc ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfe9f0000/65536, 0xfea00000/1048576, I/O @ 0x0000ee00/256
[17:00] <nastas> hi all
[17:00] <totam> ok
[17:00] <pompa_> Hi everyone, I updated my Hardy and now I have a tremendous mess, neither internet nor the touchpad works, what can I do?
[17:00] <jessica_> Linux jessica-laptop 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:02:15 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:01] <Edico> hi
[17:01] <Edico> how do I remove a user?
[17:01] <karp_> deluser
[17:01] <r3d2_> lol
[17:01] <jessica_> bastidrazor, weird.
[17:01] <adalal> jessica_: as long as u dont mind reinstalling, try fglrx
[17:01] <r3d2_> Oh man, that was fun :)
[17:01] <jessica_> bastidrazor, when i start the restricted drivers manager, it only shows the wireless driver.
[17:01] <Edico> how do I see all the user that are created?
[17:01] <bastidrazor> jessica_: not really. 9.10 was suppose to be the big fix for most ati cards
[17:02] <adalal> ManDay: what does it show up as, sdb or sdc?
[17:02] <Joe__> please a little help, or at least point me where to look... I upgraded to 9.10 and after reboot my mdadm arrays won't assemble, mdadm says device or resource busy
[17:02] <karp_> is there any way to upgrade to 10.04 from repos?
[17:02] <r3d2_> I know that if I ever really do have an issue I can't resolve - I'm F**d - but it was worth it :)
[17:02] <bastidrazor> jessica_: right, you don't have an option for the video card because its already done.
[17:02] <ManDay> adalal, the sdcard as sdb
[17:02] <ManDay> the stick a sdbc
[17:02] <adalal> karp_: it's not out yet
[17:02] <jessica_> bastidrazor, no, glxinfo says no direct rendering.
[17:02] <nastas> pompa_: you updated hardy to which release?
[17:02] <karp_> adalal, i know
[17:02] <pompa_> I whish I know, I just did an apt-get upgrade
[17:03] <adalal> ManDay: create a folder under /media, using 'sudo mkdir /media/sdcard/' .. and then use 'sudo mount /dev/sdb/ /media/dscard/' and see if it works
[17:03] <nastas> run uname -a in a terminal
[17:03] <nastas> pompa_: run uname -a in a terminal
[17:03] <karp_> but in debian you can upgrade to testing unstable what so ever... no possible on ubuntu? only the daily alpha builds available to upgrade from?
[17:03] <ManDay> adalal, it works
[17:03] <adalal> karp_: when it does come out, yes.. u can from the update manager, or via terminal
[17:03] <ManDay> it can be mounted
[17:03] <ManDay> adalal, it just doesnt automout
[17:03] <bastidrazor> jessica_: ah, showing good on my end.
[17:03] <adalal> ohh
[17:03] <r3d2_> I had sex with a Norwegian once.
[17:03] <myk_robinson> adalal: you able to help me with the connection sharing?
[17:03] <jessica_> but the radeon module is in lsmod.
[17:03] <r3d2_> Never again.
[17:03] <jessica_> this is really strange.
[17:03] <Daughain> Well, it seems something stuck in the brain.
[17:03] <adalal> just doesn't automount? .. um,, i think u ahve to edit your gconf..
[17:03] <r3d2_> Too north.
[17:04] <morissette> anyone will to assist me w/ using gparted lol
[17:04] <adalal> myk_robinson: im not the right person for connection sharing :P, although if ur using firestarter, shouldn't b too hard
[17:04] <pompa_> 2.6.24-25 generic
[17:04] <pompa_> nastas: 2.6.24-25 generic
[17:04] <r3d2_> Mrs Robinson - you sound like the perfect person to share an IP
[17:04] <nastas> ok  pompa_
[17:04] <sixtila> update fixed the sound output and the software center
[17:05] <myk_robinson> adalal: I had it working with Firestarter on my old PC. I have replaced it with a better one, and am having trouble
[17:05] <adalal> are we allowed to put up our own bots up here?
[17:05] <myk_robinson> r3d2_: I am a man, thank you
[17:05] <bastidrazor> adalal: no.
[17:05] <sixtila> but input from mic seems to be dead! has anyone solved it?
[17:05] <adalal> damn
[17:05] <ManDay> adalal, please highlight me when you refer to me
[17:05] <r3d2_> Don't go to Finland. No, really.
[17:05] <adalal> myk_robinson: unless the interface name and all are wrong, dont see why not..
[17:05] <bastidrazor> r3d2_: please stay on topic.
[17:05] <ManDay> r3d2_, are you annoying?
[17:06] <myk_robinson> adalal: I am trying setting manual DNS now, i have the IP set manually.. lets hope for the best
[17:06] <adalal> ManDay: i do... like i said, you'll have to edit the gconf probably, or fstab
[17:06] <pompa_> nastas: oh, if you say so, it doesnt seem so ok for me, but anyway
[17:06] <Daughain> sixtila, Cant help with the mic, I never bothered. woring on getting a BT headset configured, eventualyt.
[17:06] <adalal> myk_robinson: can't you route it through the router?
[17:06] <ManDay> adalal, fstab, hmmm does fstab really have anything to do with automount plugnplay???
[17:06] <r3d2_> input - okay, make sure you have alsamixer running
[17:06] <morissette> I am attempting to create a new partition; hwoever am kinda lost any help would be appreciated
[17:06] <sixtila> np Daughain atleast output works!
[17:06] <adalal> ManDay: well, i know it can help with a cd/dvd drive...
[17:07] <adalal> not too sure though
[17:07] <syk> !partition
[17:07] <pompa_> nastas: jokes apart, is there a method to restore the drivers for the wifi card and touchpad?
[17:07] <morissette> syk: ? no partition?
[17:07] <adalal> ManDay: try editing your gconf, there're automount options there
[17:07] <Bias112> hello is anyone here?
[17:07] <morissette> Hello Bias112
[17:07] <Daughain> six, you using alsa?
[17:07] <Bias112> hello
[17:07] <adalal> Bias112: yes...
[17:07] <fahadsadah> Bias112: Yes, how can we help you?
[17:07] <r3d2_> You're going to have to fight with alsa AND pulseaudio
[17:07] <myk_robinson> adalal: got it, just needed to set the DNS
[17:07] <Bias112> I just intalled Mythbuntu
[17:07] <nastas> pompa_: run iwconfig in a terminal
[17:07] <adalal> myk_robinson: good goin :)
[17:07] <adalal> Bias112: good job!
[17:07] <Bias112> it went to 100% testing hardware and so
[17:08] <Bias112> just when it went to 100% the computer restarted
[17:08] <velcroshooz> is there a way to move the osd notifier in 9.10? its like halfway down my desktop
[17:08] <pompa_> nastas: it gives no wireless extensions
[17:08] <karp_> adalal, are you really sure i can upgrade to lucid? there is a repo here .. http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/
[17:08] <ddelony> necrose: Have you tried using the alternate CD?
[17:08] <r3d2_> PulseAudio is a REALLY GOOD idea, and the implementation is now, QUITE GOOD, but still it's only KINDA GOOD.
[17:08] <Bias112> and then ofc I got 2 boot options, Xp or Mythbuntu
[17:08] <nastas> pompa_: how many interfaces>
[17:08] <nastas> ?
[17:08] <adriano> hello
[17:08] <adalal> karp_: try sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[17:08] <neezer> is there a way I can make it so my cpu will ony go to say 80% or so?
[17:09] <Bias112> but in grub there was only xp, 2 strange nt 2000 and one vista loader
[17:09] <r3d2_> Pompa - all of the interfaces.
[17:09] <BinaryMan> if only vmware worked without skippy audio
[17:09] <adalal> karp_: isn't it on alpha still?
[17:09] <Bias112> and I couldnt enter anyone of them... im wondering how I can boot into mythbuntu
[17:09] <karp_> adalal, yeah it is
[17:09] <morissette> Bias112: did you check menu.lst?
[17:09] <pompa_> nastas: two, or better, the Io, and the eth0
[17:09] <adriano> someone talk portuguese???
[17:09] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, where are you come from?
[17:09] <adriano> portugal
[17:09] <Bias112> menu.1st in mythbuntu folder
[17:09] <Bias112> btw I installed from wubi
[17:09] <nastas> pompa_: eth0 is your wired network card i suppose
[17:10] <madruga> -br
[17:10] <morissette> Bias112: I believe by default is at /boot/grub
[17:10] <r3d2_> What time is it?
[17:10] <isolat3dsh33p> petsounds: malaysia, why?
[17:10] <fahadsadah> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-pt
[17:10] <adalal> r3d2_: where are you?
[17:10] <adriano> alguem fala portugues??
[17:10] <syk> !portuguese
[17:10] <Bias112> morissette grub folder is empty
[17:10] <Bias112> and I can see hidden files with xp
[17:10] <nastas> pompa_: try ifconfig
[17:10] <pompa_> nastas: Yes, I think is like that, and the missing eth1 the wirless one
[17:10] <meero> mneptok: and what about ubuntu-remix compared to xubuntu
[17:10] <morissette> Bias112 `locate menu.lst`
[17:10] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, oh ok. just asking
[17:10] <adriano> obrigado......
[17:10] <Bias112> moris im in xp now
[17:11] <r3d2_> adalal, I'm not far from Melbourne.
[17:11] <pompa_> nastas: exactly as we were saying
[17:11] <isolat3dsh33p> ubuntu-id
[17:11] <r3d2_> So I guess that'll make it 4am ish
[17:11] <adalal> ah, well, r3d2_ it's 4:11 am there
[17:11] <adalal> :P
[17:11] <nastas> pompa_: you mean just 2 interfaces?
[17:11] <pompa_> nastas: yes
[17:11] <isolat3dsh33p> oh yeah, mery xmas everyone
[17:11] <morissette> Bias112: So you are locked out of Mythbuntu? Try installing FS-Drive
[17:12] <adalal> merry christmas ...
[17:12] <Bias112> morissette what do if there is no files in \grub?
[17:12] <r3d2_> I haven't had a single present today.
[17:12] <adalal> Bias112: install grub
[17:12] <pompa_> nastas: I suppose that upgrading I lost all of the drivers or something like that for many things
[17:12] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, #ubuntu-id is no longer maintained.
[17:12] <Bias112> maybe it is just easier to unintall wubi and do it again?
[17:12] <adalal> r3d2_: neither have i :P... everyone's gone home for holidays
[17:12] <isolat3dsh33p> petsounds: why?
[17:12] <pompa_> nastas: such as wireless, touchpad, video drivers, and so on
[17:12] <r3d2_> I bought around $600 worth for the wife an the kids.
[17:12] <Bias112> adalal I have grub already, the boot menu showed in bios
[17:12] <morissette> Bias112:  im w/ adalal try installing grub from a live cd
[17:13] <morissette> Bias112: so grub is currently the default bootloader/
[17:13] <Bias112> ok I dont have acces to install from cd right now
[17:13] <nastas> pompa_: do you remember what kind of wifi card you own? is it Atheros?
[17:13] <Bias112> no first ir windows loader
[17:13] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, there's no ops and no visitor :(
[17:13] <Bias112> then when I pick Myth grub shows up
[17:13] <morissette> Bias112: are you familiar w/ grub cli?
[17:13] <ddelony> Bias112: You have a USB stick?
[17:13] <pompa_> nastas: but i'm not sure of it as I'm not really able of checking this kind of stuff, especially from the consolle
[17:13] <r3d2_> adalal - I thought I was the only man in the room to get no prizes - merry christmas to ya :)
[17:13] <isolat3dsh33p> petsounds: so, your from indonesia?
[17:13] <airstrike> you're*
[17:13] <Bias112> no ironicaly not, no usb
[17:14] <pompa_> nastas: I'm sorry but I really don't know
[17:14] <adalal> r3d2_: :D
[17:14] <adalal> going out for a smoke
[17:14] <nastas> ok pompa_ give me 1 sec
[17:14] <ddelony> Santa brought me an EEE PC that I'm currently running the Netbook Remix on. :-)
[17:14] <Bias112> but can some1 tell me how the ubuntu\ and the other folders shouls look like when you have done an install?
[17:14] <adriano> somebody knows more channels in portuguese??
[17:14] <Bias112> maybe it just didnt get intsallet.
[17:14] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, yes.
[17:14] <morissette> Bias112: file structure is basic unix
[17:14] <adalal> adriano: ask people there.. if there are any :S
[17:14] <syk> adriano, #ubuntu-br
[17:14] <airstrike> adriano #ubuntu-br
[17:14] <r3d2_> I am, at least, increasingly drunk - and I love music, so I've won A prize.
[17:14] <adriano> ok...tks
[17:15] <Bias112> ok im just going for uninstalling
[17:15] <Bias112> the installation is quick anyhow
[17:15] <morissette> Bias112: you just need to reinstall grub loader
[17:15] <isolat3dsh33p> petsounds: that's cool :)
[17:15] <mkquist_> Bias112: why not just try reinstalling grub?
[17:15] <ddelony> I thought I'd give the community a present by donating some of my time here this Christmas.
[17:15] <r3d2_> Who's the boy you like the most? Is he teasin you with underage?
[17:15] <morissette> ddelony: aww
[17:16] <adalal> r3d2_: had wayyy too much to drink last night at a local
[17:16] <r3d2_> ROMEROME Many tears have fallen here, ROME, you look the other way...
[17:16] <adalal> none for me 2day
[17:16] <ManDay> Someone help me with my automount, when I plug in the SD card or USB stick it doesnt Automount?!?!
[17:16] <morissette> ddelony: dont suppose yuo are a guru w/ partitioning?
[17:16] <Bias112> beacuse I think the installation got abrubted
[17:16] <isolat3dsh33p> Bias112: you should just install grub. If you have the liveCD
[17:16] <isolat3dsh33p> ddelony: merry x-mas. :)
[17:16] <morissette> ddelony: gparted is just confusting the hell out of me
[17:16] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, how's ubuntu LoCo in malaysia?
[17:16] <Bias112> im not a linux pro.. but I think I should get a message saying installation complete before it restarts?
[17:16] <ddelony> morissette: I have manually partitioned a drive, but I don't know if I'm a guru.
[17:16] <adalal> i wanna be the ubuntu loco for notts :P
[17:16] <isolat3dsh33p> petsounds: almost dead, but it's still alive. There's still people there. :)
[17:17] <morissette> ddelony: well I am currently running Jaunty on my laptop and want to add a partition for windows
[17:17] <ddelony> !gparted
[17:17] <morissette> ddelony: I have gparted
[17:17] <morissette> ddelony: the man page is just not helpful
[17:17] <morissette> therefore I am here
[17:18] <Bias112> thanks for you help
[17:18] <isolat3dsh33p> morissette: what's your problem?
[17:18] <nastas> pompa_: i'm back. can you paste in pastebin the output of lspci?
[17:18] <loup> ...
[17:18] <fumbles> I have karmic server edition running and I can't seem to foward X11 for ssh...claims .Xauthority not writable
[17:19] <fabrice> Hey, I have a problem I've got an Acer Extensea 5230E, my W-Lan connection is very weak, since I use Ubuntu. With Windows I still had 50% W-LAN service with ubuntu only 2-10%
[17:19] <morissette> isolat3dsh33[: just need a walkthrough
[17:19] <petsounds> isolat3dsh33p, so it's dying, and not quite different here. i think we can merge this two LoCo 'cause we're not so different in our language. what do you think?
[17:19] <isolat3dsh33p> fabrice: try disabling IPv6
[17:19] <ddelony> morissette: Have you seen this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition ?
[17:19] <mori_> Got my desktop here also
[17:20] <morissette> ddelony: yep ive read that help page
[17:20] <isolat3dsh33p> petsounds: I'm not sure, but you can always join the channel. :)
[17:20] <mkquist_> morissette: whats the problem?
[17:20] <pompa_> nastas: i cannot paste it because i'm on another pc
[17:20] <morissette> mkquist: I am running Jaunty on my laptop and want to create a new partition for gaydows
[17:20] <adalal> pompa_: use pastebin.com
[17:20] <pompa_> nastas: but if short i can type it
[17:21] <adalal> oh wait.. nvm
[17:21] <isolat3dsh33p> morissette: do you have the liveCD?
[17:21] <fabrice> IPv6 is also ignore but the problem is still there
[17:21] <syk> !gparted
[17:21] <mkquist_> morissette: k, and what is not working in gparted? or what cant you figure out?
[17:21] <chromebel> hello people
[17:21] <morissette> isolat3dsh33p: no livecd - im at work
[17:21] <nastas> pompa_: ok but do it in pastebin
[17:21] <chromebel> sorry, where can I find package maintainers in irc?
[17:21] <isolat3dsh33p> fabrice: what's you ubuntu version?
[17:21] <morissette> mkquist: well i create a new partition table but it looks like it is going to wipe the drive
[17:22] <isolat3dsh33p> morissette: if you have it with you, create a partition using that. :)
[17:22] <fabrice> v 9.10 and i have all updates.
[17:22] <adalal> chromebel: you probably won't your better off messaging them on launchpad or whereever
[17:22] <morissette> isolat3dsh33p: im at work; no livecd :(
[17:22] <mkquist_> morissette: is there more than one partition? and is this the compu ur on now?
[17:22] <morissette> mkquist: this is the comp i am on right now- but I am at work and have 3 moniters in front of me
[17:22] <OldFarter> hi i gave away a 19" lcd for xmas to someone with an ubuntu box.... i were unable to get it to use the correct aspect ratio or anything above 1024x768
[17:22] <aso> msg NickServ IDENTIFY aso1238
[17:22] <chromebel> adalal: don't they have an irc channel?
[17:22] <aso> sry
[17:22] <LiteralKa> how do I turn off AllowEmptyInput
[17:23] <mori_> mkquist: and am on here too
[17:23] <mkquist_> morissette: how many partitions?
[17:23] <chromebel> aso: exposed! :-)
[17:23] <aso> ;P
[17:23] <morissette> mkquist: just one for windows
[17:23] <ctmjr> aso: change you passw ord
[17:23] <aso> ctmjr: im know :D
[17:23] <ionut> hi, i am trying to start Ubuntu One (on my ubuntu 9.10 ) but it gives me this error :
[17:23] <pompa_> nastas: I'm sorry but I really don't know how to do it without internet and "mouse"
[17:23] <mkquist_> do nothing but windows is installed?
[17:23] <adalal> ionut: which one?
[17:23] <morissette> mkquist: dual boot
[17:24] <ionut> hi, i am trying to start Ubuntu One (on my ubuntu 9.10 ) but it gives me this error : authorization error: error showing url: Failed to execute chil....firefox/firefox" (no such file or directory)
[17:24] <mkquist_> morissette: k, so ur in ubuntu right now?
[17:24] <morissette> mkquist: yep
[17:24] <mkquist_> morissette: how many partitions for ubuntu?
[17:24] <adalal> ionut: is firefox isntalled?
[17:24] <nastas> ok pompa_ just give any line who say about wireless network
[17:24] <ionut> adalal: yes it is
[17:25] <nastas> ok pompa_ just give any line who say about wireless interface
[17:25] <isolat3dsh33p> fabrice: i don't think i can help you. But just try checking the Network Tools, under device tab for IPv6, the netmask suppose to be zero.
[17:25] <morissette> mori@freedom:~$ df -h
[17:25] <morissette> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:25] <morissette> /dev/sda1             221G   35G  176G  17% /
[17:25] <morissette> udev                  1.5G  304K  1.5G   1% /dev
[17:25] <morissette> none                  1.5G  312K  1.5G   1% /dev/shm
[17:25] <morissette> none                  1.5G   92K  1.5G   1% /var/run
[17:25] <morissette> none                  1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /var/lock
[17:25] <FloodBot2> morissette: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <morissette> none                  1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /lib/init/rw
[17:25]  * airtonix wishes pastebinit was installed by default
[17:26]  * isolat3dsh33p agrees with airtonix
[17:26] <mkquist_> morissette: because you need to unmount a partition to change its size, or work with it in gparted, so  if you only have one, its a no-go without live cd
[17:26] <airtonix> morissette, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit
[17:26] <adalal> what's wrong with fabrice's machine?
[17:26] <morissette> mkquist: so i need to run gparted from livecd to partition
[17:26] <kathy> ive got a epson al-c1000 printer and no idea how to install it with cups? anyone can help?
[17:27] <morissette> mkquist: i work at a linux hosting company maybe there is a livecd laying around
[17:27] <mkquist_> morrigan_: sounds like it, unless youve got a sda2 or sdb something going on too... = )
[17:27] <airtonix> kathy, ubuntu version? (have you started by just plugging the printer in while ubuntu is running?)
[17:27] <pompa_> nastas: http://pastebin.com/d5ca652a5
[17:27] <mkquist_> morissette: last was for you ... oops
[17:27] <mkquist_> morrigan_: sry
[17:27] <nastas> pompa_: ok your card is still ok :)
[17:28] <morissette> mkquist: brb looking for livecd
[17:28] <mkquist_> morissette: k
[17:28] <pompa_> nastas: that's a good news
[17:28] <kathy> 9.10 kernel 2.6.31-16 and yes i plugged the printer and yes ubuntu tried to find a driver but with no success
[17:29] <morissette> mkquist: found a centos 5.3 cd
[17:29] <mori_> mkquist: willing to walk me through this if i get lost
[17:30] <airtonix> kathy, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-AcuLaser_C1000
[17:30] <kathy> that means not possible?
[17:30] <pompa_> nastas: but I suppose that the hard part comes hereafter
[17:30] <nastas> pompa_: try to load ipw2200 module
[17:30] <nastas> pompa_: sudo modprobe ipw2200
[17:31] <airtonix> kathy, looks like it. hence the term "win-printer"
[17:31] <nastas> pompa_: then lokk the iwconfig again
[17:31] <nastas> pompa_: then look the iwconfig again
[17:31] <morissette> REBOOTING fpr 1st attempt of partition
[17:32] <airtonix> kathy, there is this though (not exactly your printer model though ) http://driverscollection.com/?H=ACULASER%20C3000&By=Epson&SS=Linux
[17:32] <Joe__> can someone PLEASE help me, after upgrading to 9.10 my mdadm raid arrays will not rebuild/mount, I've been at this for hours and have no clue what the problem is at this point
[17:32] <pompa_> nastas: wow, you're absolutely the best
[17:32] <pompa_> nastas: Have back the eth1
[17:32] <airtonix> kathy, also need to make your own investigations as to how to trust that site
[17:33] <kathy> okay i tried the c900 and it didnt work out
[17:33] <nastas> pompa_: now i guess when you reboot the pc you will lost eth1 again
[17:33] <kathy> maybe the c3000
[17:33] <kathy> thanks a lot
[17:33] <pompa_> nastas: that's no good, what should I do?
[17:33] <nastas> pompa_: you have to make it to autoload during boot
[17:33] <airtonix> kathy, doe it only connect via usb? or can it connect via lan cable?
[17:33] <nastas> pompa_: try to reboot first
[17:34] <kathy> atm its connected via usb
[17:34] <nastas> pompa_: if you see that is gone again i'll tell you what to do
[17:34] <chadi> I installed grub on the linux partition and not the MBR. When can I find menu.lst?
[17:34] <mori_> BOOTING
[17:34] <bastidrazor> chadi: which version of grub and ubuntu?
[17:35] <xzachtmx> does anyone know how to run ubuntu shell scripts from C++ ? i searched and it gave me the system() function but do i just put in the directory of my script?
[17:35] <mkquist_> Joe__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528735  maybe
[17:35] <chadi> bastidrazor karmic, and latest grub avilable in the repos
[17:35] <duffydack> huh, normally i boot up its using like 200 or something meg...ive just rebooted after doing quite memory intensive work, and its 1.4gb in in use with nothing running?  checked process list, looks ok...odd
[17:35] <nastas> pompa_: still there?
[17:35] <bastidrazor> !grub2 | chadi
[17:36] <pompa_> nastas: yes
[17:36] <bastidrazor> chadi: grub2 does not have a menu.lst it uses grub.cfg ..that site will explain better.
[17:36] <mori_> xzachtmx: perl ftw
[17:36] <pompa_> nastas: but everyting is worst than you could imagine...
[17:36] <nastas> pompa_: what do you mean?
[17:36] <airtonix> kathy, this list might help you avoid the xenophobic devices out there : http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HARDWARE
[17:36] <ddelony> mori_: Or Python
[17:37] <Joe__> mkquist that is about monitoring an array, mine won't rebuild
[17:37] <chadi> bastidrazor thanks :)
[17:37] <mkquist_> Joe__: sry, just a shot
[17:37] <bastidrazor> !hardware | kathy : this list is #ubuntu approved
[17:37] <ionut> i am trying to connect my ubuntu one to internet and it fails
[17:37] <mori_> ddelony: havent messed w/ Python much - i work in sysadministration so command line perl is essential
[17:37] <bain> How do I redirect output from a program that is not stderr or stdout ?
[17:37] <pompa_> nastas: to start up the system I have to choose the 24-25 kernel in grub, because the default choice is the 24-26 (or something like that) and it doesn't work at all
[17:38] <ddelony> bain: I think it's 2>&1
[17:38] <pompa_> nastas: that's why I initially ask if it would be possiblew to downgrade
[17:38] <nastas> pompa_: ok choose the working kernel
[17:38] <bain> ddelony: the output is not stdout or stderr so redirecting like that won't help
[17:38] <dreamy> how can i understand how good linux is for sound quality ? anyone helping?
[17:39] <pompa_> nastas: anyway the wireless is gone again, with the working kernel
[17:39] <nastas> ok
[17:39] <boblesax> r et joyeux noel a toutes et a tousse
[17:39] <mori_> mkquist, okay booted up however im not familiar at all w/ gparted
[17:40] <mori_> mkquist, i have create a new partition table
[17:40] <nastas> pompa_: in a terminal sudo gedit /etc/modules then add the line "ipw2200" without quotes
[17:40] <kathy> okay the printer is in the list... hence no way thank you all
[17:40] <mori_> mkquist, i assume a create a new partition now
[17:40] <mkquist_> mori_: run gparted?
[17:40] <mori_> Anyone, I havent used ext4 yet, should i stay w/ ext3
[17:40] <mori_> mkquist, gparted is run
[17:41] <pompa_> nastas: done
[17:41] <hal> Merry Christmas to all
[17:41] <nastas> pompa_: did you did it? sorry being in rush but i have 30 minites left and then i have to work :)
[17:41] <nastas> pompa_: ok
[17:41] <mori_> mkquist, i am at the Create a new Partition window
[17:41] <nastas> now reboot again
[17:41] <pompa_> nastas: I'm sorry
[17:41] <nastas> pompa_: now reboot again
[17:41] <jesse2> merry christmas everyone! having a small problem.  when i change my mouse pointer in the apperance preferences, it remains as the default (except when i hover over firefox).  but it remains as the default whenever i hover over the desktop and most other applications other than firefox.  when its over firefox, it changes into the pointer i set it to.  what gives?
[17:41] <nastas> pompa_: with your working kernel
[17:42] <jesse2> yesterday someone recommended i type "metacity --replace" to fix my mouse pointer woes.  it worked, but then all my desktop effects disappeared
[17:42] <mkquist_> mori_: I thought you wanted to resize a partition? no? so you have free space on a drive?
[17:42] <mori_> mkquist, I want to create a new partition to install windows
[17:42] <saltty> test
[17:43] <mkquist_> mori_: do you have free space?
[17:43] <mori_> mkquist, yep
[17:43] <mkquist_> mori_: formatted or not?
[17:43] <pompa_> nastas: Great, it's working now
[17:43] <nastas> ok
[17:43] <mori_> mkquist, sda1 has Jaunty
[17:43] <nastas> pompa_: ok try to update your system
[17:44] <mkquist_> mori_: and thats it?
[17:44] <mori_> mkquist, yep
[17:44] <pompa_> with an apt-get update?
[17:44] <pompa_> nastas: with an apt-get update?
[17:44] <nastas> yes pompa_
[17:44] <Pip> How to set keyboard layout with command ?
[17:45] <sweex> anyone? i plugged in my eth0 to connect to internet to download my wireless drivers, but i can't get eth0 working... i tried dhcp and static ip's with dhcp i get: dhcpdiscover on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval x and then fails...
[17:45] <sweex> Pip, setxkbmap
[17:45] <Oasa> hi adalal
[17:45] <sweex> Pip, eg setxkbmap be
[17:45] <pompa_> nastas: nothing happened
[17:46] <mkquist_> mori_: then you need to just resize it, leave some open space for windows.
[17:46] <pompa_> nastas: just refreshed the package list
[17:46] <mori_> mkquist, Partition menu has that option grayed out
[17:46] <mori_> do i need to sudo gparted
[17:47] <nastas> pompa_: and the apt-get upgrade?
[17:47] <nastas> pompa_: shows nothing
[17:47] <bastid_raZor> mori_: you are not able to make changes to partitions while they are mounted
[17:47] <mori_> bastid_raZor, umount -a
[17:47] <Joe__> PLEASE... after upgrading to 9.10 my mdadm arrays will not rebuild, I had 3 (md0, md1, md2) only md2 will build.  sdb1 and sdc1 went into md0, but trying to manually build them mdadm says no such file or directory
[17:47] <pompa_> nastas: it says that there are 545 packages not updated
[17:48] <bastid_raZor> mori_: if you're using the partition for your OS .. that you are on now. it is impossible to umount a working partition
[17:48] <mkquist_> bastid_raZor: hes on live cd
[17:48] <mori_> Bass10, i am on livecd
[17:48] <bastid_raZor> mkquist_: aye.. i missed that part.
[17:48] <mori_> << this is my desktop
[17:48] <bastid_raZor> mori_: my bad, i didn't see that part.
[17:48] <mkquist_> bastid_raZor: hes trying to make some space to install windows
[17:48] <mori_> bastid_raZor, all good
[17:49] <mkquist_> bastid_raZor: hes just not familiar with gparted is all
[17:49] <kathy> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/HARDWARE i can find epson al-c1000 in this list...so theres aint no way? with ndiswrapper and windows drivers?
[17:49] <mori_> mkquist, dont suppose you are familiar w/ gparted command line>
[17:50] <pompa_> nastas: but it not update them
[17:50] <mkquist_> mori_: cant say that I am, not w/ c/l, never had a reason
[17:51] <chadi> compiz doesn't automatically run unless I use compiz --replace & every time. Why is that?
[17:51] <mori_> mkquist, looks like ill just have to format and reinstall ubuntu
[17:51] <mori_> luckily work is dead and i have nothing better to do
[17:51] <mkquist_> mori_: hold on a sec, gonna reboot to live cd
[17:51] <mori_> mkquist, kay
[17:52] <nastas> pompa_: try to boot the default kernel again and tell me exactly what is happening
[17:52] <mkquist> mori_: and im here too = )
[17:52] <tmcc> hi
[17:52] <Pip> sweex, wait a minute, setxkbmap can set Russian keyboard layout ?
[17:52] <mori_> mkquist, :D
[17:52] <sweex> Pip, setxkbmap ru ?
[17:53] <tmcc> it seems that somone try to crack my dsl router .. is there a tool to see whick ip try to access the router?
[17:53] <michael_> hallo
[17:54] <nastas> pompa_: still there?
[17:54] <tmcc> i cant access the router because the router has a timeout with every wront passwort attemp
[17:54] <airtonix> chadi, because you need to insert it into your startup applications list.
[17:55] <pompa_> nastas: starting up -> ubuntu logo+progress bar -> error: gave up waiting for root device. common problems: -boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) ...it continues
[17:55] <tmcc> re
[17:55] <iceroot> tmcc: dhcpdump
[17:55] <usamahashimi> atleast how much watt ups i should buy to provide power to my pc (cpu and lcd) for 90 mins?
[17:55] <airtonix> chadi, alternatively you can use the "remember currently running application" button under the options tab of startup applications preferences widget
[17:55] <iceroot> tmcc: its sniffing the whole traffic related to dhcp on a network
[17:56] <tmcc> thx iceroot my prob is that i have to bann the user cause if he is fast enough a reset wont help
[17:56] <chadi> airtonix but I don't remember doing that on my current machine
[17:56] <iceroot> tmcc: and how to ban him?
[17:57] <mori_> hmmm i broke it
[17:57] <mori_> Grub Error 22
[17:57] <airtonix> chadi, and ? your current machine = the machine on which compiz is not running at login ?
[17:57] <Joe__> does anyone here know lvm?
[17:57] <tmcc> iceroot, i think i was my mistake .. cause i think there is a chanche to configure the router to do not accept connection to port 80 from the internet
[17:57] <iceroot> !lvm | Joe__
[17:57] <cybrhuman> is there someone who can point me to a tutorial for network setup from command line? (I've tried google, but I'm not good at seeing what is relevant)
[17:57] <chadi> nope, current = machine where compiz is running
[17:57] <alankila> usamahashimi: well, a PC usually consumes something like 200 W of electricity, and LCD could take another 50. Thus, you can estimate that to run 90 minutes for 250 W of power drain, you will need 250 * 90 * 60 joules.
[17:58] <mkquist> mori_: funny but I just ran gparted and have the option to resize w/ no problem.  You sure the drive isn't mounted?
[17:58] <JoeSomebody> what is a fast easy way to listen to christmas music, anyone know a site or something?
[17:58] <Joe__> if I do sudo apt-get remove lvm2 and later reinstall it, will the settings (ie devices) still work without data loss?
[17:58] <iceroot> tmcc: sure, block the port (read the manual from the router)
[17:58] <pompa_> nastas: here it is http://pastebin.com/m390b8408
[17:58] <airtonix> chadi, you might want to check that startup application widget to make sure, also do you have fusion-icon installed ?
[17:58] <airtonix> !info fusion-icon | chadi
[17:58] <JoeSomebody> on ubuntu and ff of course
[17:58] <teachprint> Problem with installing ubuntu 9.10 on athlon machine w/windows.  When install gets to partitioner, get dialog that shows "?????" then after that install stops progress, no other messages.
[17:58] <tmcc> iceroot, but my prob is that i cant access the router cause of the hack .. so i cant block the ip
[17:58] <mori_> mkquist, yeah the drive isnt mounted
[17:59] <chadi> airtonix thank you, I'll check then once I get into linux :)
[18:00] <usamahashimi> alankila: can you refer me to some webpage which contains detailed info?
[18:00] <alankila> usamahashimi: no... and I am not sure what kind of machine you got, but I measured my box at one point and it was around 200 W...
[18:00] <JoeSomebody> only xmas station/sites i know requires internet explorer
[18:01] <mkquist> then u should be able to resize it...  does gparted give have the option to unmount it?
[18:01] <JoeSomebody> or maybe it required wmp
[18:01] <alankila> but I usually buy lower power components
[18:01] <pompa_> nastas: still there?
[18:02] <nastas> pompa_: it seems like it can't find the divice
[18:02] <usamahashimi> alankila: can i know about your region?
[18:02] <alankila> Finland.
[18:02] <pompa_> nastas: i don't understand wich device, anyway
[18:02] <Joe__> does uninstalling lvm2 remove the configuration data for the vg groups?
[18:03] <nastas> your hdd pompa_
[18:03] <tmcc> thx iceroot i think my only chace is to reset the router and to be fast enough to login ... or the provider need to help me
[18:03] <airtonix> JoeSomebody, you mean listen to shoutcast internet radio ?
[18:03] <nastas> pompa_: try to boot in the working kernel
[18:04] <pompa_> nastas: done
[18:04] <Mistletoe> Hey, I need some help setting up my wifi in ubuntu 9.04
[18:04] <airtonix> JoeSomebody, you can listen to shoutcast radio stations with just about all the linux media players : list of stations here > http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/Christmas
[18:04] <Mistletoe> It's a broadcom chip
[18:04] <adalal> hey Oasa
[18:05] <mags> ciao a tutti, buon natale
[18:05] <Mwa`> /usr/sbin/umount.hal: Unmounting /dev/sdb1 failed: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab <--- What does this mean?
[18:05] <adalal> !italian
[18:05] <mags> anche se sn un po stanco di sentirlo
[18:05] <mags> :-D
[18:05] <pompa_> mags: buon natale
[18:05] <ssergio> Escriba el texto aquí....hola
[18:05] <airtonix> Mistletoe, from memory there is a broadcom wifi related setup guide on the ubuntuforums and/or the wiki.ubuntu site.... have you found this yet ?
[18:05] <ssergio> sabe alguien español
[18:05] <mags> hola ke tal
[18:05] <nastas> pompa_: go to /dev/disk/by-uuid
[18:05] <mags> claro
[18:05] <airtonix> !es | ssergio
[18:05] <adalal> english only here
[18:05] <Mistletoe> Anyone?
[18:06] <Daughain> Mistletoe, you might need to hardwaire first.
[18:06] <nastas> pompa_: did it?
[18:06] <Mistletoe> Daughain?
[18:06] <adalal> Mistletoe: what is it?
[18:06] <airtonix> Mistletoe, did you just read what i msg'd ?
[18:06] <Mistletoe> Umm
[18:06] <Mistletoe> Ill go check
[18:06] <Mistletoe> hold on
[18:06] <airtonix> Mistletoe, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920
[18:06] <airtonix> Mistletoe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[18:07] <nastas> pompa_: i mean with nautilus go to the folder /dev/disk/by-uuid
[18:07] <airtonix> Mistletoe, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[18:07] <Mistletoe> Okay
[18:07] <adalal> airtonix: isn't ht old?
[18:07] <pompa_> nastas: done
[18:07] <adalal> oh wait
[18:07]  * Daughain chuckles.
[18:07] <pompa_> nastas: in the consolle
[18:07] <nastas> in the console?
[18:07] <adalal> airtonix: there should be closed source drivers under hardware drivers in settings shouldn't there?
[18:08] <nastas> pompa_: then just give ls
[18:08] <airtonix> adalal, for what ?
[18:08] <adalal> broadcom
[18:08] <pompa_> nastas: done
[18:08] <Oasa> hi adalal..
[18:08] <Mistletoe> adalal, I checked but nothing showed up
[18:08] <pompa_> there is the code of the disk pasted before
[18:08] <adalal> Mistletoe: oh okay.. do you know which card it is?
[18:08] <Mistletoe> Umm
[18:08] <Mistletoe> Not realy
[18:08] <adalal> heya Oasa
[18:08] <Mistletoe> really
[18:08] <pompa_> nastas: that eb17...etc...
[18:08] <Oasa> adalal: how long have you been using any Linux distro
[18:09] <nastas> pompa_: is there any devise with eb17655d-9397-49c1-80aa-abf81c4b534f?
[18:09] <airtonix> !enter | Mistletoe
[18:09] <pompa_> nastas: yes there is
[18:09] <adalal> Oasa: about a couple of years...
[18:09] <nastas> ok
[18:09] <Oasa> 2 years...
[18:09] <adalal> Mistletoe: just search the repositories for a broadcom sta proprietory wireless driver
[18:10] <adalal> Oasa: yeah... about...
[18:10] <adalal> Oasa: but i've been quite active
[18:10] <Oasa> hmmm..
[18:10] <nastas> pompa_: ok now reboot and try to edit the not working kernel. don't change anything. just tell me the boot options
[18:10] <adalal> Mistletoe: sudo lspci, and tell me which broadcom card it is please :P
[18:11] <pompa_> nastas: I have no boot options
[18:11] <Mistletoe> adalal, Broadcom BCM4306
[18:11] <pompa_> nastas: I have something like a shell, but with less commands I suppose
[18:11] <adalal> oh
[18:11] <adalal> wait
[18:11] <Mistletoe> Unless im looking at the wrong one
[18:11] <nastas> what do you mean pompa_? did you press e to edit the kernel?
[18:12] <pompa_> nastas: no, I did not
[18:12] <Arabus> hmm how do I type utf8 characters into the chat?
[18:12] <nastas> ok pompa_do it
[18:12] <pompa_> nastas: I have no such an option
[18:12] <fommil> merry xmas everybody - I am running 8.04 in a VPS with 1GB RAM and no swap (I can't seem to be able to activate any swap). When I run Glassfish, I'm hitting my 1GB far too easily, when observing the output of `top`. But when I run `ps aux`, it says java is only consuming 10% of the memory - which one do I believe?
[18:13] <adalal> Mistletoe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[18:13] <Mistletoe> Thanks
[18:13] <nastas> pompa_: you mean that the time you have to choose kernel, e button doesn't work?
[18:13] <pompa_> nastas: I'm in BusyBox built-in shell, the only hint is "enter help for a list of commands"
[18:14] <pompa_> nastas: I didn't try that
[18:14] <nastas> pompa_: try it
[18:14] <pompa_> nastas: I'm doing it
[18:14] <pompa_> nastas: what now
[18:15] <adalal> Oasa: so, why the question?
[18:15] <nastas> pompa_: do you have a list of commands now?
[18:15] <al-_-Gir> hello, can i share printers with Apache like i can with iis in windows ?
[18:16] <pompa_> nastas: I have: first line: root (hd0,0), second line: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-26-generic root=UUID=eb17655(thecodeyouknow)
[18:16] <Oasa> adalal: So how is linux?
[18:16] <nastas> pompa_: ok press e to edit the non working kernel
[18:17] <pompa_> nastas: third line: initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-26-generic
[18:17] <pompa_> nastas: which command line?
[18:17] <nastas> pompa_: just hit e button
[18:18] <nastas> in the kernel line pompa_
[18:18] <nastas> pompa_:  the second line
[18:18] <pompa_> nastas: done, now i can edit the line
[18:19] <pompa_> nastas: and read till the end, there is a "ro quiet splash" appended after the code of the device
[18:20] <nastas> pompa_: the code of the devise is the same with uuid you have?
[18:20] <nastas> pompa_: it sould be eb17655d-9397-49c1-80aa-abf81c4b534f
[18:20] <amnay> Hi. are devices randomly mounted in read-only mode ?
[18:20] <amnay> why
[18:20] <pompa_> nastas: it is
[18:20] <nastas> ok
[18:21] <nastas> pompa_: add rootdelay=90 in the end of the line
[18:21] <nastas> pompa_: did it?
[18:22] <adalal> Oasa: i love it.. i love how much i can customize it :)
[18:22] <adalal> Oasa: withougt installing bloatware
[18:23] <pompa_> nastas: i cannot find the equal mark (maybe bacause of the italian keyboard)
[18:23] <xiong> Just upgraded to 9,10 and having trouble with the Applications menu: Some items are not available in the 'Edit Menus' dialog, even though they display in the menu itself; some submenus of 'Games' are disabled and refuse to accept being enabled. Hints?
[18:23] <Wamphyri> curious, why can i see my raptor 74g drive in dmesg, but when i try to use it to install via live or any other method it doesn't see the raptor drive
[18:23] <pompa_> nastas: where is it in you keyboard?
[18:23] <nastas> is next to the backspace
[18:23] <pompa_> nastas: done
[18:23] <nastas> ok
[18:24] <nastas> pompa_: just enter to save and b to boot
[18:24] <e01> someone with dell9mini
[18:24] <wotsolatsod731> Hello all!
[18:24] <nastas> pompa_: my time is running out :)
[18:24] <wotsolatsod731> Merry Xmas
[18:24] <nastas> pompa_: is it booting?
[18:24] <e01> i wonder where is the internal microphone, and how to turn it on
[18:24] <pompa_> nastas: I'm sorry for stolen it all
[18:25] <pompa_> nastas: same error
[18:25] <Oasa> adalal : what do you mean by customize?
[18:25] <nastas> pompa_: ok
[18:25] <Oasa> adalal and by bloadware?
[18:25] <pompa_> nastas: I really appreciate your help
[18:25] <PFA> sorry if this is bad form, but can someone take a look at this please?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364066
[18:25] <pompa_> nastas: fell as you solved my problem
[18:25] <CrunchSnow> hi
[18:25] <baz> hey, has anyone got OpenVPN working on ubuntu? I am following the instructions on the ubuntu site (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN), but I am confused by the end for the client config - I would like to setup my client using the network manager, but I don't have a password, just key files
[18:26] <CrunchSnow> best application to manage my iPod Nano?
[18:26] <pompa_> nastas: and thank you for your time
[18:26] <pompa_> nastas: ... and Merry Xmas!
[18:26] <nastas> nothing pompa_we'll talk later
[18:27] <nastas> pompa_: you too
[18:27] <Wamphyri> curious, why can i see my raptor 74g drive in dmesg, but when i try to use it to install via live or any other method it doesn't see the raptor drive
[18:30] <adalal> Oasa: on windows, there're programs taht allow you to somewhat customize windows, but they all come at a price, mostly adwares
[18:30] <Oasa> customize what?
[18:30] <Oasa> !wat
[18:31] <adalal> Oasa: not to mention if you want to do any major changes, it'll have to be to the registry, which is a pretty sensitive thing...
[18:31] <mka> Wamphyri, what is a raptor drive?
[18:31] <adalal> Oasa: customize looks, get free software, get community support
[18:31] <mka> MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!
[18:31] <Wamphyri> 11,500 rpm drive its made by wd
[18:31] <Joe__> trying to manually rebuild my mdadm arrays but it keep saying device or resource busy...
[18:31] <adalal> Oasa: get more performance out of the computer, practically infection free
[18:32] <gidna> Hi
[18:32] <gidna> I get this error Couldn't start metronome.
[18:32] <gidna> Please check if specified sound device
[18:32] <gidna> and sample file are accessible.
[18:32] <gidna> with gtick 0.4.2
[18:32] <Wamphyri> dmesg see's the hd i wish to install onto, but the install doesn't see it to be able to install ubunto onto it
[18:32] <adalal> Wamphyri: is it mounted?
[18:33] <Wamphyri> nope
[18:33] <adalal> Wamphyri: what does the partition manager say/
[18:33] <adalal> ?
[18:33] <Wamphyri> nothing it doesn't list the drive
[18:33] <adalal> Wamphyri: how about sudo fdisk -l
[18:34] <Oasa> adalal : hmmmm can you teach me something new which you suppose i dont know
[18:34] <gidna> gtick doesn't run properly How can I fix it?
[18:34] <adalal> Oasa: i dont know what you dont know, and to be honest, im just procrastinating, i've got my semester exams in 3 weeks :P
[18:35] <Joe__> four of my disk partitions will not show up in /dev (ie /dev/sdb1) how do I fix this?
[18:35] <s3ns3s> Marry CHRISTmas to all
[18:35] <adalal> merry*
[18:35] <uvacav> quick question, how do you run usb-creator? I installed it with apt but dont know the command
[18:36] <wotsolatsod731> How come no matter how many codes or packages I put on I can seem to get the DVD to play
[18:36] <Joe__> no it's not, it's a nightmare and no one seems to know how to fix or want to help
[18:36] <adalal> uvacav: System > Admninistrator > USB Startup Disk Creator
[18:36] <Oasa> adalal : so what do you mean??? Teach me anything
[18:36] <uvacav> adalal: thanks!
[18:37] <pepperjack> wotsolatsod731: youve installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:37] <pepperjack> !dvd | wotsolatsod731
[18:37] <adalal> Oasa: there's nothing I can teach, I learn as i go... you want me to teach you how to setup a server? that's gonna take ages...
[18:37] <adalal> Joe__: your partitions not showing up at all?
[18:37] <adalal> Joe__: tried sudo fdisk -l?
[18:37] <Hilikus> where's the kernel source? i have a make script telling me this
[18:37] <Hilikus> un 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it."
[18:38] <Joe__> adalal they show up on fdisk -l just fine, but mdadm claims they aren't there (and at other times claims they are busy)
[18:38] <Joe__> I really hate doing dist upgrade, something always goes wrong
[18:38] <adalal> mdadm?
[18:38] <adalal> clean installs always!
[18:38] <Joe__> software raid
[18:38] <adalal> oh, im sorry, i know nothing about that :P
[18:38] <tmcc> iceroot, thx i found a solution ... i tried to connect every 10s and login during he wait
[18:38] <Joe__> clean install = loss of everything, upgrade = high chance of loss of everything
[18:39] <airtonix> Hilikus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo && https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[18:39] <Joe__> adalal but if I do ls /dev those partitions are not in there
[18:39] <elzoog> Hey guys.  I installed netbook remix on my netbook.   I want to change what grub says on bootup but there is no menu.lst file.   What should I do?
[18:39] <Hilikus> airstrike: ??? it doesnt have anything to do with compiling
[18:39] <Joe__> adalal fdisk -l shows sdb1, sdb2, sdc1, and sdc2 but they aren't showing up in /dev
[18:39] <adalal> Joe__: sounds like a corruption, and for the record, this is why you ahve a seperate home partition :P
[18:39] <Arabus> I am currently trying to type unicode characters in ubuntu jaunty - it seems that the standard key kombination ctrl+shift+u#### does not work for me, at least not in pidgin and in xterm
[18:40] <Joe__> adalal that IS my home partition
[18:40] <adalal> Joe__: try locate sdb1
[18:40] <Joe__> adalal shows nothing
[18:40] <Wamphyri> fdisk /dev/sdb shows the drive
[18:41] <LordHawke13> Does anyone have an Ekiga SIP account? I'd like to try out my new webcam and mic.
[18:41] <pepperjack> Arabus: try rxvt-unicode  terminal emulator rather than xterm
[18:41] <Joe__> Wamphyri yes, and if I hit p to print the partition table it shows both sdb1 and sdb2
[18:41] <Wamphyri> just shows 1
[18:41] <elusivepastry> How can I change the text of the Main Menu (ie "Applications, Places, and System") ?
[18:41] <adalal> wait
[18:41] <nat2610_> what is the service I have to start to be able to vnc a remote ubuntu machine ?
[18:41] <Wamphyri> linux won't reconize the drive, but windoze see's it just fine
[18:41] <adalal> Wamphyri and Joe__ have the same problem?
[18:42] <adalal> Wamphyri: what kind of a drive is it?
[18:42] <Wamphyri> western digital raptor 74g
[18:42] <Wamphyri> sata
[18:42] <adalal> Joe__: under fdisk, it just says sdb?
[18:42] <Oasa> adalal: yeah i would like to know that... i would be a good student... and by the way what actually is the difference between a server and a normal computer. with the exception of there will be additional rights to the server admin. and many computers will be connected and files can be share. I can do all this in Windows though.i actually dont know
[18:42] <JoeSomebody> what is the most ram you can have in ubuntu if 64 bit intel pc?
[18:42] <dimitar> can anyone tell me why when i start ubuntu 9.10 it first show me black screen with some color changes like some color testing and then noramlly start up system?
[18:43] <Joe__> adalal yes sdb shows up
[18:43] <adalal> Joe__: it says just sdb? not /dev/sdb?
[18:43] <Joe__> adalal it's /dev/sdb
[18:43] <pepperjack> JoeSomebody: your motherboard will give out on the amount of ram it can support before ubuntu 64 bit will
[18:43] <adalal> Wamphyri: is it an ntfs partition?
[18:43] <adalal> Joe__: try sudo ls /dev/
[18:43] <Joe__> adalal with two partitions /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2
[18:44] <JoeSomebody> ok cool thanks
[18:44] <Oasa> adalal tell me how to partition a usb mass storage into two or more.
[18:44] <Joe__> adalal sdb is there, but sdb1 and sdb2 are not
[18:44] <Wamphyri> adalal, it was i just removed the partition
[18:44] <Arabus> pepperjack: gnome terminal seems to work with ctrl-shift-u####, do they use different input libraries or why is that so?
[18:44] <chuy_max> Joe__, what Ubuntu version are  you using?
[18:45] <adalal> Wamphyri: install ntfs-3g and try
[18:45] <adalal> just a whim
[18:45] <Joe__> chuy_max I was on 8.10, upgraded to 9.04(worked fine) then to 9.10 (broke here, can't boot)
[18:45] <dimitar> can anyone tell me why when i start ubuntu 9.10 it first show me black screen with some color changes like some color testing and then noramlly start up system?
[18:45] <adalal> Joe__: does it mount on other systems?
[18:45] <Wamphyri> adalal, its a linux partion now
[18:46] <adalal> Wamphyri: which type?
[18:46] <Joe__> adalal other systems?
[18:46] <Wamphyri> adalal, i just used fdisk
[18:46] <xzachtmx> ok is there a way to open the terminal and run a script from one shell line like gnome-terminal bash script.sh (that didnt work)
[18:46] <Wamphyri> installer still doesn't see it
[18:46] <adalal> Joe__: are you sure the HD didn't erase?
[18:46] <Joe__> adalal no reason it should have
[18:46] <adalal> Wamphyri: all i do is ask you to post on the forums... and see if anyone replies
[18:46] <pepperjack> Arabus: xterm probably doesnt have unicode support. i've been using urxvt for forever. i would guess that you could recompile xterm for utf8 but im.. not entirely sure
[18:47] <adalal> Joe__: Open it with gparted
[18:47] <Wamphyri> ok :)
[18:47] <Joe__> adalal can't boot, no gui
[18:47] <Arabus> pepperjack: well I am mainly concerned about using pidgin for irc chat and typing unicode characters into it - but it does not seem to work for me even though it does work for others
[18:47] <ManDay> Someone help me with my automount, when I plug in the SD card or USB stick it doesnt Automount?!?!
[18:47] <adalal> Joe__: try the command line version of gparted.. parted :)
[18:48] <res-away> whats the best way to restore a damaged ubuntu install?
[18:48] <Joe__> adalal ok, what you want me to do now that I'm in here?
[18:48] <Oasa> adalal: answer me please.
[18:48] <adalal> Oasa: sorry for not replying, but to be honest, they aren't all tht differet
[18:49] <Joe__> adalal print under parted shows everything being as I expect it to be
[18:49] <adalal> Joe__: sorry dude, I have no experience with raid at all, i suspect it has to do with raid configurations...
[18:49] <adalal> i can't think of anything else, try posting on teh forums
[18:49] <resn> whats the method to store a botched ubuntu install?
[18:49] <resn> restore*
[18:50] <elzoog> Man, this grub2 shit sucks.  I wish they would have kept menu.lst so that it would be easy to do what I want to do
[18:50] <Oasa> adalal: So server is not that different. Tell me how to partition a usb into two or more .
[18:50] <guntbert> !language | elzoog
[18:50] <colton_> I just bought a new hp printer and it didn't come with linux drivers. How could I get these drivers? Do they exist?
[18:50] <adalal> Oasa: oh sorry
[18:50] <adalal> Oasa: got confused, um, use gparted
[18:50] <amcsi> hello
[18:50] <adalal> hello
[18:51] <adalal> Oasa: sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:51] <adalal> and then run it
[18:51] <guntbert> resn: 'botched' in what way?
[18:51] <resn> guntbert: when i start up, it freezes at "checking battery".
[18:51] <Oasa> !language | Oasa
[18:52] <resn> guntbert: it happend after a "failed" update from 9.04 to 9.10
[18:52] <amcsi> I have a problem with the ubuntu netbook remix iso: I burned it onto my pendrive with ido2usb, and it boots up on my netbook, but I can't install or try ubuntu, because it takes me back to the same menu. What can be the problem?
[18:52] <resn> then a update after that resulted in this problem guntbert
[18:52] <guntbert> resn: can you start the recovery system?
[18:53] <resn> guntbert: never had to use it before, so im not sure what to do
[18:53] <elzoog> For example, if I want to change the menu entry from "Windows NT....(on dev/sdb1)" to "Windows XP Professional", and turn off the countdown, wouldn't it be easier to do both at the same time by editing the menu.lst?
[18:54] <guntbert> resn: when booting - do you get the "grub" menu (several kernels to select) ?
[18:54] <Oasa> adalal : Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.31). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[18:54] <Oasa> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gparted/gparted_0.3.5-1ubuntu5_i386.deb  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.31). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[18:54] <Oasa> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[18:54] <FloodBot2> Oasa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <resn> guntbert: yes. i can get that fine. after i select the install and it starts loading, probing etc, then it freezes
[18:54] <dimitar> can anyone tell me why when i start ubuntu 9.10 it first show me black screen with some color changes like some color testing and then noramlly start up system?
[18:54] <dimitar> can anyone tell me why when i start ubuntu 9.10 it first show me black screen with some color changes like some color testing and then noramlly start up system?
[18:55] <Oasa> adalal : and are you a  mod/admin of this channel
[18:55] <adalal> Oasa: no by no means, i am not
[18:55] <resn> dimitar: bet its probing, etc. does it work fine?
[18:55] <adalal> Oasa: switch to a different mirror...
[18:55] <dimitar> resn....yes it work fine....but its annoying...every start up...
[18:56] <Oasa> how to do that adalal ?
[18:56] <PlanDiabolico> JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
[18:56] <PlanDiabolico> JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
[18:56] <PlanDiabolico> JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
[18:56] <PlanDiabolico> JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
[18:56] <PlanDiabolico> JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
[18:56] <FloodBot2> PlanDiabolico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <elzoog> Why did grub have to become less easy to work with?
[18:56] <h4f1> sdf
[18:56] <adalal> Oasa: system > administration > software sources
[18:57] <adalal> Oasa: there's a tab there, where you can choose another mirror, or hit the best mirror button
[18:57] <guntbert> resn: we are talking about different things here - I talk about booting without CD
[18:57] <resn> guntbert: we are talking about the same thing. i am dual booting.
[18:57] <protojay> how do i change my desktop resolution in the command line?
[18:58] <Bookman> I am trying to play Alien Arena but my sound is very, very choppy and the video has flashes of the background in it.  Not sure what is wrong here.
[18:58] <PFA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364066 can someone look at and help me with this please?
[18:58] <guntbert> resn: then why "select install"? but never mind - in this grub menu you can choose "recovery system"
[18:58] <coz_> protojay,   welll  this may help   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:58] <coz_> protojay,  which video card are you running?
[18:59] <dimitar> resn....yes it work fine....but its annoying...every start up...
[18:59] <resn> guntbert: oh, when i select windows or linux installs. sorry for wrong word choice
[18:59] <protojay> coz_: ati
[18:59] <resn> dimitar: i got that
[18:59] <coz_> protojay,   ooo ..ok I know very very little about at configuration however that link should be  helpful
[19:00] <dimitar> resn:how to i turn it off
[19:00] <guntbert> resn: then select "recovery" please
[19:01] <Oasa> adalal which mirror shoudl i use
[19:01] <pspfreak> How can I get my usb headset to work correctly with sound and microphone
[19:01] <h4f1> how do I make pidgin to skip all debug messages? like "blah blah entered the room etc"
[19:01] <resn> guntbert: should i recover by itself?
[19:01] <resn> h4f1: you should be able to active it on plugins
[19:02] <adalal> Oasa: u can use the main server, but it's here in the UK, just hit select best server, and it'll configure to the fastest server for you
[19:02] <pspfreak> How can I get my usb headset to work correctly with sound and microphone
[19:02] <h4f1> resn: do you know the name of plugin ?
[19:02] <hedkandi> hi there!
[19:02] <Oasa> yeah i did that actually
[19:02] <resn> h4f1: not sure, it should be on the default list
[19:02] <adalal> Oasa: great
[19:02] <hedkandi> I have a usb-based mp3-player which mounts on vista as a removable hard disc. It doesn't mount (on the desktop) in karmic. Any ideas?
[19:02] <adalal> continue to install gparted
[19:02] <pspfreak> How can I get my usb headset to work correctly with sound and microphone
[19:03] <adalal> hedkandi: does it show up under rhythmbox?
[19:03] <Oasa> adalal : it chose singapore
[19:03] <elusivepastry> How can I change the text of the Main Menu (ie "Applications, Places, and System") ?
[19:03] <adalal> hedkandi: or, under sudo fdisk -l?
[19:03] <Oasa> now i will give apt-get again in terminal ?
[19:03] <adalal> Oasa: fair enough
[19:03] <adalal> Oasa: yes
[19:03] <guntbert> resn: at first I'd try to "repair broken packages"
[19:03] <pspfreak> How can I get my usb headset to work correctly with sound and microphone
[19:03]  * adalal wants a christmas present :P
[19:04] <pspfreak> Can someone help?
[19:04] <adalal> pspfreak: not showing up on pulseaudio?
[19:04] <pspfreak> it is, but it isn't actually using it. It is using my onboard sound.
[19:04] <Oasa> adalal : This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:04] <Oasa> is only available from another source
[19:04] <Oasa> E: Package gparted has no installation candidate
[19:04] <Oasa> :(
[19:05] <x_> x
[19:05] <adalal> Oasa: go to applications > Ubuntu software centre, and search for gnome partition editor
[19:05] <adalal> and install it from there
[19:05] <pspfreak> Adalal: It's showing up, but it doesn't go through my headset. I have a gigaware headset
[19:05] <Oasa> the GUI way... cant i go to synaptic manager?
[19:06] <hedkandi> adalal: no
[19:06] <pspfreak> Oasa: apt-get install gparted
[19:06] <adalal> Oasa: it's easier getting it done through the software centre, why more trouble :)
[19:06] <mkquist_> Oasa: sudo apt-get install gparted  -- whats easier than that?
[19:06] <jacblac> join #seatools
[19:07] <ciro314> hi! i have several postscript files and i would like to join them in a single pdf file. pdftk does not handle this kind of files. any suggestion, please?
[19:07] <adalal> Oasa: if it still doesn't choose the main server, and then isntall
[19:07] <Oasa> mkquist psp freak... i am having trble
[19:07] <baz> i miss the star ratings in the software center for popularity, why were those removed?
[19:07] <pspfreak> adalal, It shouws up, but it the sound doesn't redirect into my headset
[19:07] <pspfreak> I have ubuntu 9.04
[19:07] <adalal> pspfreak: im trying to think if there are any special modules
[19:07] <h4f1> is there a plugin for pidgin. which will insert the username for me when I press on username. as for now I have to copy it or type it myself ?
[19:08] <adriano> ciao a tutti
[19:08] <pspfreak> Adalal: it is a gigaware
[19:08] <adalal> h4f1: no, but u can start writing the name and hit tab, it'll complete it
[19:08] <h4f1> adalal: thanks didn't know
[19:08] <hedkandi> anyone else?
[19:08] <adriano> per caso ce qualche italiano che mi da un aiutino su linux?
[19:09] <adalal> pspfreak: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/problems-with-a-gigaware-usb-headset-still-sound-from-the-pc-585021/
[19:09] <pspfreak> adalal: i want to use it cuz I got it for christmas
[19:09] <pushistik> привет
[19:09] <adalal> pspfreak: that's one suggestion
[19:09] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[19:09] <chadi> I clicked "remember mty currently running applications" in startup and it's not remembering them forever. How can I delete the remembered data?
[19:10] <chadi> not=now*
[19:10] <h4f1> pushistik: русская поддержка на #ubuntu-ru
[19:10] <adalal> pspfreak: post on the forum, but i think the headset causes problems with PA
[19:10] <darkside86> how do you allow short/null passwords in Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:10] <pushistik>   а на руссокм тут кто - нибуть общается??????
[19:10] <adalal> pspfreak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=998544
[19:10] <h4f1> pushistik: увы нет
[19:10] <pspfreak> adalal, thanks
[19:10] <elzoog> Ok guys, in grub2 how do I change the menu entry from "Ubuntu Linux 2.6.31-16-generic" to "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" ?
[19:10] <adriano> vabbe grazie lo stesso ciau a tutti
[19:10] <adalal> !russian | pushistik
[19:10] <darkside86> "You must choose a longer password" = error i need to specify exact passwords i know what i'm doing (not installing ssh or caring about non-admin user passes)
[19:11] <ubuntunewbie> anyone know how to set nvidia setting ? my refresh rate keep on reset to default when I restart window
[19:12] <ghostlines> anyone know if it's possible to override ethernet duplex speed? Our sys admin changed the the lan speed from 100mbit to 10mbit.
[19:12] <meydlo> know anybody from you problem:"ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout" ?
[19:12] <auntieNeo> how do I disable pulse audio? it's interfering with some of my games
[19:12] <ubuntunewbie> please ?
[19:12] <ubuntunewbie> please ?
[19:12] <elzoog> I guess nobody here knows?  You don't simply edit a text file?
[19:12] <BinaryMan> auntieNeo: You probably want to disable PulseAudio.
[19:12] <mneptok> !info nvidia-settings
[19:12] <h4f1> ubuntunewbie: please what ?
[19:12] <guntbert> !grub2 | elzoog
[19:12] <auntieNeo> BinaryMan: that's what I just asked about
[19:12] <BinaryMan> !info pbzip2
[19:13] <darkside86> is there a GUI where a user can set their own password w/o admin privs?
[19:13] <BinaryMan> auntieNeo: you came here looking for help, yes?
[19:13] <mneptok> darkside86: System > Prefs > About Me
[19:13] <meydlo> pls have anybody experience with problem :" ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout "?
[19:13] <eli_> Hey... how do I switch to normal desktop mode in UNR 9.10? The desktop-switcher package does not exist in karmic
[19:13] <BinaryMan> auntieNeo: Best advice is not to disable PulseAudio and find another way to fix your game.
[19:13] <darkside86> ok thanks
[19:14] <auntieNeo> BinaryMan: that's bullshit. I know what I'm doing. it's an old binary game that won't work with pulesaudio
[19:14] <mneptok> !language > auntieNeo
[19:14] <adalal> !language | auntieNeo#
[19:14] <auntieNeo> what a rude bot :(
[19:14] <ManDay> Someone help me with my automount, when I plug in the SD card or USB stick it doesnt Automount?!?!
[19:14] <BinaryMan> auntieNeo: Then you can help yourself.
[19:15] <adalal> ManDay: install gconf-editor
[19:15] <BinaryMan> meydlo: i have that error in dmesg constantly. it doesn't seem to affect my wireless.
[19:15] <adalal> and there're options in there to allow gnome to assist in automount
[19:15] <BinaryMan> time to run, yet again
[19:15] <elzoog> So is that the solution when linux decides to make something more complicated?  When someone asks a question you guys just cover your ears and go "la la la"?
[19:16] <ciro314> hi! i have several postscript files and i would like to join them in a single pdf file. pdftk does not handle this kind of files. any suggestion, please?
[19:16] <obaid> i need help with my vpn connection setup
[19:16] <auntieNeo> I'm sorry about my language. does anyone know the correct way to disable pulse audio in ubuntu?
[19:16] <darkside86> i usually just force kill it as needed
[19:16] <auntieNeo> the wiki has instructions, but it seems to have changed with the latest version
[19:16] <darkside86> until it starts back up
[19:17] <auntieNeo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#line-91
[19:17] <mneptok> auntieNeo: killall pulseaudio
[19:17] <obaid> anyone used ultravpn.fr in ubuntu ?
[19:17] <ManDay> adalal, i got it already
[19:17] <ManDay> what conf setting?
[19:17] <auntieNeo> mneptok: I've already done that... but it's not a great solution
[19:17] <auntieNeo> I pretty much just want to know where it autostarts itself
[19:17] <auntieNeo> some gnome thing I assume, since the init script tells me it's per-user
[19:18] <Joe__> halfway fixed... stupid dmraid
[19:18] <BluesKaj> !atitude | elzoog
[19:18] <darkside86> what does pulseaudio do anyway? add one more layer of complexity to Linux sound?
[19:18] <ManDay> adalal, ?
 anyone know how to set nvidia setting ? my refresh rate keep on reset to default when I restart window
[19:18] <auntieNeo> darkside86: it's a sound server. basically it mixes sound. pulseaudio does some additional things like allow network sound
 I looking for that with google but no good  solution :-/
[19:19] <auntieNeo> darkside86: but difficulties arise because pulseaudio is new and a lot of old games *cough* ut2004 *cough* don't understand the api
[19:19] <auntieNeo> plus, I like dmix better, personally
[19:19] <adalal> ManDay: give a few mins.. i've trying to find it
[19:19] <ManDay> thats very kind adalal thank you
[19:19] <ManDay> im waiting
[19:20] <BluesKaj> elzoog, changing the name of a kernel ...why /
[19:20] <auntieNeo> but it seems the latest ubuntu has this newfangled "run pulseaudio when teh user logs in" thing and I can't figure out where it's running it from
[19:21] <auntieNeo> ah, there appears to be a script at /etc/pulse... I can figure this out :P
[19:22] <adalal> ManDay: on gconf-editor see /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount
[19:22] <adalal> ManDay: see if it's enabled
[19:23] <ManDay> adalal, its on already
[19:23] <Enzo_01> what is the best way to have a kde on netbook
[19:23] <adalal> oh that's odd
[19:23] <ManDay> wait ill check dmesg
[19:23] <Enzo_01> to install ubuntu netbook remix, and then install kde
[19:23] <adalal> what messages come up on dmest on inserting the drive?
[19:23] <Enzo_01> or install a kubuntu
[19:24] <Enzo_01> ?
[19:24] <darkside86> would anyone happen to know why a 4th generation 8G nano fails to show songs written to it via Rhythmbox? i tried gtkpod and banshee but they won't even show the device?
[19:24] <ubuntunewbie> anyone know how to set nvidia setting ? my refresh rate keep on reset to default when I restart window
[19:24] <Joe__> adalal think I almost have it...
[19:25] <adalal> Joe__: what did you try?
[19:25] <ManDay> adalal, nothing special, dmesg seems normal
[19:25] <Joe__> adalal noticed after I did parted the nodes showed up for that disk
[19:25] <wotsolatsod731> Can someone please tell me what can I do gain access here? E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[19:25] <wotsolatsod731> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[19:26] <Joe__> adalal did a little more research, found an issue with udev and dmraim not playing nice, just adding the kernel option nodmraid gets me 90% of the way there
[19:26] <gdb> wotsolatsod731: preface your command with the word 'sudo'
[19:26] <gdb> wotsolatsod731: ie; sudo aptitude install package
[19:26] <adalal> Joe__: lovely!
[19:27] <wotsolatsod731> I try'd that too and put my password in after
[19:27] <wotsolatsod731> still same message
[19:27] <mrbrdo> how do i find out if i'm on 32bit or 64bit?
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> mrbrdo: uname -a
[19:28] <Joe__> adalal now to fix the last issue with fsck helling at me about the home mount
[19:28] <ManDay> Can anyone help me getting automount of media such as SD cards and ThumbDrives to work? When I insert the medium, it displays in /dev/ and dmesg looks fine, yet it doesnt appear in nautilus nor FS unless I mount it manually!
[19:28] <mrbrdo> KB1JWQ what should i look for?
[19:28] <mrbrdo> it's i686 does that mean it's 32bit?
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> mrbrdo: What's it day?
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> It's one line.
[19:28] <KB1JWQ> Yes.
[19:28] <elzoog> BluesKaj: "elzoog, changing the name of a kernel ...why /"   Because Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the name of the OS you are booting to, not Ubuntu Linux 2.6.31-16-generic
[19:28] <wotsolatsod731> Oh sorry your your right
[19:28] <mrbrdo> ty
[19:28] <adalal> ManDay: if noone can help, you're better off posting on the forum
[19:28] <meydlo> pls have anybody experience with problem "ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout"?
[19:28] <ManDay> The forums, I never got any help there, adalal
[19:29] <adalal> ManDay: really? i have! so many times.. lol, give it one more go :P
[19:29] <ManDay> adalal, ok.
[19:29] <snappy1> ciao a tutti
[19:29] <elzoog> Also, it's "Windows XP Professional"  not "Windows NT/2000/XP (on /dev/sda1)"
[19:29] <snappy1> spiegatemi come faccio a scaricare film
[19:29] <Joe__> adalal sucsess!  hopefully fsck doesn't hell at me next time... shouldn't take too long to check a 4TB mount :P
[19:30] <adalal> umm
[19:30] <snappy1> please
[19:30] <adalal> Joe__: i think otherwise
[19:30] <Joe__> one last issue (assuming this works) I forgot... how do I permently add a line to my kernel boot options?
[19:30] <adalal> snappy... not this forum
[19:30] <Joe__> adalal yeah... it's gonna take a while :P
[19:30] <KB1JWQ> Joe__: grub.conf usually.
[19:30] <adalal> !en | snappy1
[19:30] <guntbert> !it | snappy1
[19:30] <snappy1> link for instruction?
[19:30] <adalal> i meant that
[19:31] <adalal> oops :P
[19:31] <Joe__> kbljwq that's under /etc right?
[19:31] <snappy1> Un link per le istruzioni
[19:31] <mka> elzoog, can your repeat your problem again?
[19:31] <elzoog> I don't care if INTERNALLY, Ubuntu wants to call these things something less user friendly.  For all I care, Ubuntu can call them "Lin 23.23.123.5123.1"   It's just when, it asks me what I want to boot to, it should say something that makes sense to ME.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> elzoog, you can try changing it in  /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then doing a n update-grub , if you're on grub2
[19:31] <xiong> Just upgraded to 9,10 and having trouble with the Applications menu: Some items are not available in the 'Edit Menus' dialog, even though they display in the menu itself; some submenus of 'Games' are disabled and refuse to accept being enabled. Hints?
[19:31] <adalal> elzoog: change the volume name
[19:31] <Joe__> adalal thanks for the help earrlier.. thank god I have multtipple  computers or this would have been a problem :P
[19:31] <elzoog> mka:  I want to change the menu entry in Grub
[19:32] <mka> elzoog, you mean Grub2?
[19:32] <adalal> Joe__: indeed... same here
[19:32] <adalal> elzoog: there're guides for grub2 all over the net
[19:32] <elzoog> mka:  Yep, grub2, the least user friendly boot loader I have yet to come across
[19:32] <henkpoley> xiong: did it use to work in previous a ubuntu version ?
[19:32] <guntbert> elzoog: why don't you read and follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 ?
[19:32] <wotsolatsod731> Also when I try to run a windows program disc with wine I get : Access denied
[19:33] <elzoog> Guntbert:  I read the wiki on grub2
[19:33] <xiong> henkpoley, Yes, all okay in 9.04; this is only since the upgrade.
[19:33] <Datz> Hi, I am having a problem with my graphics card driver.  I just installed my NVIDIA 6600 card, and the driver, restarted, but there is a message indicating that the card and the monitor could not be detected. Can someone help me with this>
[19:33] <Alan502> Hi :) I reinstalled grub but the menu is not correctly displayed, how to fix it?
[19:33] <mka> elzoog, yeah I agree it's less user friendly
[19:33] <Datz> I cannot raise my resolution, which I would like to do
[19:33] <padi999> Can someone explain me this: date +%T --date="00:01:01 -1min"
[19:33] <padi999> 02:02:01
[19:33] <padi999> ??
[19:33] <henkpoley> xiong: also, the menu system grabs data from the menu of different desktops, could it be that these items are of  of a specific desktop environment? like KDE or something ?
[19:34] <padi999> where are the 2 hours from?
[19:34] <elzoog> I hope they upgrade grub2 so that all you have to do is change an entry in a text file to do that.
[19:34] <aleko> :)
[19:34] <mkquist_> Alan502: 9.10?
[19:34] <mka> elzoog, guntbert, adalal, I guess the grub2 howto/guide needs to be re-written again
[19:34] <guntbert> elzoog: and why didn't you follow them? changeing an entry should not be more complicated than removing/addin one :-)
[19:35] <guntbert> mka: why?
[19:35] <mka> guntbert, it is so user unfriendly
[19:35] <nastas> pompa_: still there?
[19:35] <adalal> guntbert: i think it's a bit more annoying than adding/removign a line in grub2
[19:35] <Quadrescence> How do I 'trick' the package manager into thinking it has LaTeX installed? I know this is definitely against the philosophy of package managers, but I installed a newer version of TeXLive and it should be safe to make Ubuntu think it has the proper packages installed.
[19:35] <elzoog> guntbert: You mean like "Entries should be removed by editing or removing files in the /etc/grub.d folder. The /boot/grub/grub.cfg file is read-only and should not normally be edited directly."
[19:35] <Datz> Hi, I am having a problem with my graphics card driver.  I just installed my NVIDIA 6600 card, and the driver, restarted, but there is a message indicating that the card and the monitor could not be detected. Can someone help me with this? I cannot raise my screens resolution past 800x 600
[19:35] <xiong> henkpoley, Quite possibly. I know that *some* of my apps are 'intended' for KDE, because they say so; in other cases I'm not sure, because there doesn't seem to be any definite discriminate. I don't really understand how an app can be one or the other, since all apps work fine under Gnome, although with different looks and feels.
[19:35] <adalal> Quadrescence: you can force an install
[19:36] <ManDay> adalal, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8558130
[19:36] <Alan502> mkquist_, yes
[19:36] <ManDay> :=)
[19:36] <ManDay> Please guys, help!
[19:36] <xiong> henkpoley, Before you go into detail, yes, I do understand about Qt and GTK.
[19:36] <mkquist_> Alan502: have you tried sudo update-grub?
[19:36] <padi999> Can someone explain me this? http://pastebin.com/m2f969803 it seems as "date" is a weird function
[19:36] <neezer> hello!
[19:37] <mka> guntbert, adalal elzoog, I was stuck with grub rescue this other time and had only intrepid livecd at hand. I realised how nasty this grub2 thing is
[19:37] <neezer> merry christmas!'
[19:37] <elzoog> Guntbert:  Instead of "For example, if you want to change an entry from "Ubuntu Linux, generic 21p9348720934.902q847" to "Ubuntu Linux" you edit the file 30_linux and change the line ~~~ to ~~~
[19:37] <neezer> can I get some support for exim4 here?
[19:37] <Alan502> mkquist_, no, let me check it...
[19:37] <henkpoley> xiong: Yeah, it's kinda vague, but QT vs. GTK mostly sums it up, I believe they use different shortcut files syntax
[19:37] <Datz> Hi, I am having a problem with my graphics card driver.  I just installed my NVIDIA 6600 card, and the driver, restarted, but there is a message indicating that the card and the monitor could not be detected. Can someone help me with this>
[19:38] <elzoog> Guntbert:  In other words instead of saying it can be done, give an example of something a normal user might want to do, and how he would do that.
[19:38] <guntbert> elzoog: don't hold me responsible for the docu please :-)
[19:38] <Salvad> Hello. Merry Christmas.
[19:38] <neezer> Merry Christmas Salvad
[19:38] <adalal> hello
[19:38] <Alan502> mkquist_, the command ran, but with a lot of errors. It quited with a "done" though.
[19:38] <adalal> and merry christmas
[19:38] <stayka> hallo wie geht s euch?
[19:38] <elzoog> guntbert:  Well, you are the one who told me to read the docu.
[19:38] <meydlo> anybody may help me with problem ("ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout")?pls
[19:38] <mkquist_> Alan502: what kind of errors?
[19:38] <adalal> stayka: english pleaes
[19:38] <adalal> pleaes*
[19:38] <xiong> henkpoley, I'm just looking to straighten out the menus.
[19:38] <adalal> please*
[19:38] <neezer> stayka, are you from germany?
[19:39] <phaer> I am using a dual monitor setup, but sometimes i would like to turn one of them black, for example when i watch a movie. Is it possible to do this in shell? I'd like to add it to my mplayer alias ;)
[19:39] <elzoog> guntbert:  If you don't think the docu is helpful in telling me how to handle my problem, then why did you tell me to read it?
[19:39] <stayka> i study her but i m from marocco
[19:39] <Datz> Hi, I am having a problem with my graphics card driver.  I just installed my NVIDIA 6600 card, and the driver, restarted, but there is a message indicating that the card and the monitor could not be detected. Can someone help me with this?
[19:39] <Salvad> When I am using Firefox and a popup opens it opens not beign visible.
[19:39] <mka> I guess we need a gui application to tweak grub2 boot loader, I invested a lot of time in the past to master "grub legacy" now that time is thrown to a thrash by the introduction of grub2. feels like a slap in the face.
[19:39] <Alan502> mkquist_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/346610/
[19:40] <neezer> I see. I'm moving to Celle in July next year.
[19:40] <neezer> I'm quite excited about it.
[19:40] <guntbert> elzoog: (I never bother - I just see the menu once a month) - but yes - if there is a chapter how to create an entry you should be able to edit an entry with that instruction - (I hope :-/)
[19:40] <Salvad> I am with intermittent light in the panel.
[19:40] <adminewb1> maybe someone here can help direct me to a better support channel: how do I find out more about IRC host / IM network interconnects?
[19:40] <Alan502> mkquist_, i doubt this is correct, i have four partitions. Three of them have operating systems. Kubuntu, Win7 and Win XP
[19:40] <Datz> Is there somewhere else I can get help?
[19:40] <nastas> pompa_: ?
[19:41] <stayka> i have a problem with my webcam in ubuntu can you help me? please
[19:41] <elzoog> guntbert:  In other words, you don't know how to solve the problem
[19:41] <X-Sleepy-X> stayka: what kind of a problem do you have?
[19:41] <adalal> stayka: just let us know what the problem is, and if anyone can help, they will :)
[19:41] <bahman> I have a Q!
[19:42] <adminewb1> mka, I hear your frustration, and I've had plenty of grub/grub2 headaches as well, but I believe their stated reasons for the grub->grub2 migration are compelling.
[19:42] <ubuntunewbie> anyone know how to set nvidia setting ? my refresh rate keep on reset to default when I restart window
[19:42] <xiong> henkpoley, Okay, I have figured out this much: Battle for Wesnoth is a 'Game' but also a 'StrategyGame'; therefore it wants to display in the submenu, not in the main Games menu. But when I try to enable the Strategy submenu, this action fails (in a bizarre way); the check appears, then blinks out.
[19:42] <bahman> Could you tell me about running Tor with Vidalia?!
[19:42] <adalal> !help | bahman
[19:42] <sharif> How I am able to do Internet sharing with limit of speed each user ?
[19:43] <Datz> Hi, I am having a problem with my graphics card driver.  I just installed my NVIDIA 6600 card, and the driver, restarted, but there is a message indicating that the card and the monitor could not be detected. Can someone help me with this?
[19:43] <bahman> I'm a new user, thanks adalal and ubottu
[19:43] <adalal> bahman: ubottu is a bot :P
[19:43] <X-Sleepy-X> sharif: What you need is some form of bandwidth quota.
[19:44] <kheera> adalal, its ok to thank bots
[19:44] <Alan502> !bot
[19:44] <bahman> What a great OS!
[19:44] <Joe__> Datz I normally have to install Nvidia drivers manually
[19:44] <adalal> kheera: i suppose.. :P but they dont understand!
[19:44] <guntbert> elzoog: yes - thats true - I only looked through the said page and found  a chapter on how to add an entry - I expected that to be good enough - sorry if it isn't
[19:44] <meydlo> anybody there is able to help me with problem ("ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout") pls O:-)
[19:44] <kheera> adalal: thats only because we didn't program them to understand.  whoevers bot it is should fix that.
[19:44] <Datz> Joe_: Ok...
[19:44] <neezer> I'm not getting any exim4 help over on the exim channel/server. Does anyone here know anything about it?
[19:45] <Guest10699> i have a quick question:  my f-spot opens then crashes in like .5 secs... any ideas?  fresh install ubuntu 9.10
[19:45] <mka> adminewb1, I guess I have to keep faith and learn again, you see, a transition from an expert to a newbie is traumatizing. We demand counselling to accompany the Grub2 HOWTO
[19:45] <Joe__> Datz just go to nvidia's site, and find the right driver for your card and platform
[19:45] <mkquist_> Alan502: howd you get to this point? = /
[19:45] <adalal> kheera: i swear.. i had a bot and i made it say thank you each time someone thanked it :P
[19:45] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest10699: Try opening fspot in a terminal and post the output
[19:45] <kheera> perfect :)
[19:45] <mkquist_> Alan502: as in how did grub get messed?
[19:45] <bahman> I install Tor and also Vidalia but when the Vidalia start the Tor, its stop in "Loading relay information"
[19:45] <Datz> Joe_: thanks I'll do that
[19:45] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest10699: post the output in a pastebin
[19:45] <Guest10699> i can do that... should i post into chat?
[19:46] <kheera> adalal: no if we could only program the humans to be that nice :)
[19:46] <adminewb1> mka, traumatizing, for sure
[19:46] <Guest10699> i have a lot to learn
[19:46] <Joe__> Datz after that, hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console window (write this down, as you won't be able to come back), login and type "sudo service gdm stop" then browse to where you saved the driver (default is ~/Desktop) and type "sudo sh NVIDIA..." fill in the name, follow the prompts.  When done just type "sudo service gdm start" and you should be good
[19:46] <stayka> I do not know, it does not work when I'm at
[19:46] <adalal> kheera: i s'pose, but we can threaten them :)
[19:46] <kheera> hah
[19:46] <Alan502> mkquist_, i installed windows xp on a different partition, so i had to reinstall my grub to be able to boot into kubuntu again
[19:46] <Joe__> guess he didn't need the rest of the instructions :P
[19:46] <adalal> kheera: it's like being rude to make others ncie
[19:46] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest10699: You post here http://pastebin.com/ then send us the link
[19:47] <kheera> adalal: threatening != being nice!
[19:47] <Guest10699> kk thanks
[19:47] <Guest10699> brb
[19:47] <X-Sleepy-X> k
[19:47] <debuggerboy> hello
[19:47] <X-Sleepy-X> hi
[19:47] <Joe__> Alan502 I prefer Virtualbox for the few things I need real (ie wine doesn't work) windows
[19:47] <mkquist_> Alan502: you used 9.10 to reinstall grub?
[19:47] <adalal> kheera: wouldn't taht be lovely?
[19:47] <adminewb1> mka are you looking for a hand translating your menu.lst to the grub.cfg form?
[19:47] <kheera> hmm
[19:47] <guntbert> adalal: please keep to the topic :-)
[19:48] <kheera> guntbert:
[19:48] <adalal> sigh
[19:48] <mka> adminewb1, I need to customize my grub2 bootloader
[19:48] <plandiabolico> HI GAYS. JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
[19:48] <kheera> oops. guntbert sets a good example :)
[19:48] <Alan502> Joe__, i installed win xp for games, and i have win 7 for other porpouses
[19:48] <plandiabolico> HI GAYS. JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
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[19:48] <steffan> !ops
[19:48] <FloodBot2> plandiabolico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <Joe__> adala: 20%... we're speeding now :P
[19:48] <Alan502> mkquist_, yes ubuntu 9.10 x86, althought im using kubuntu amd64
[19:48] <z3rongod> Hello
[19:48] <gadgetme> edit /etc/defaults/grub.cfg
[19:48] <adalal> 20% ?
[19:49] <adalal> Joe__: 4 TB right?
[19:49] <adalal> damn
[19:49] <gadgetme> and run update-grub
[19:49] <mka> adminewb1, I want to have for example a line that has only "LINUX" and another line with "WINDOWS"
[19:49] <Joe__> alan502 the few games I play work with wine, but for me I use Virtualbox with xp (have 7 as well) and just put it up on one of my monitors, two OSs at once
[19:49] <Joe__> adalal yeah
[19:49] <Guest10699> http://pastebin.com/m247eb37e
[19:49] <Alan502> Joe__, i wish games ran on virtualbox or on wine; that would be my solution if getting rid of windows
[19:49] <Plan-Diabolico> HI GAYS. JOIN IN #SPACIONUX
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[19:49] <FloodBot2> Plan-Diabolico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <mkquist_> Alan502: take a look see here, I'm new to grub2 (using ubuntu 64bit), but was able to recover grub using this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[19:50] <mka> adminewb1, I dont need all the fuss about 2.6.***... appearing
[19:50] <adalal> we should be able to kcik ppl like that
[19:50] <Joe__> alan502 you check out the WineHQ database to make sure they don't?
[19:50] <z3rongod> I'm trying to use ubuntu from live cd on a computer that has 7600 GT. The problem is after the little ubuntu gray icon on the center appears, the image f***s up. I think it might be related to the driver for this video card. The computer works ok with winxp. Are there known issues with this card? How can i fix this problem?
[19:50] <Alan502> Joe__, i did, they are moder warfare 2 and crysis
[19:50] <elzoog> gadgetme:  The file says not to edit grub.cfg    I will do that if I have to though.
[19:50] <Joe__> alan502 yeah, crysis definately wouldn't :P
[19:51] <guntbert> adalal: especially when I *want* to kick someone I'm glad that I cannot :-)
[19:51] <adalal> elzoog: dont
[19:51] <Joe__> alan502 one day the game developers will support linux...
[19:51] <Alan502> mkquist_, woah! this is awesome i was looking for some guide like this one but couldn't find it =P thanks!!
[19:51] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest10699: It says something about the error in the end of http://pastebin.com/m247eb37e but I'm not the right person to help you with that fspot problem.
[19:51] <adalal> elzoog: because it will revert back when update-grub is triggered
[19:51] <adminewb1> mka, the fuss over kernel versions is there so you can tell apart which kernel you're starting. kernel updates sometimes patch nasty bugs, and sometimes introduce regressions.
[19:51] <LiteralKa> Okay, I got out of tty, I got gdm working
[19:51] <Alan502> Joe__, of course, as more cross platform programming languages become popular
[19:51] <adalal> elzoog: you have to update the config files
[19:51] <Guest10699> dang and all i wanted was a slideshow for a screensaver...lol
[19:51] <LiteralKa> but everything is messed up, graphics wise
[19:52] <Alan502> Joe__, i see it in a close future
[19:52] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest10699: You could try to google that error message, maybe that will give you a clue on what to do or wait until someone more skilled than me on the subject answers the question...
[19:52] <bahman> Wow... Vidalia connected to the Tor network
[19:52] <adalal> wat's vidalia?
[19:52] <adalal> what*
[19:52] <Guest10699> well thanks I'll try that
[19:52] <adminewb1> mka, would you want to remove all the single-user mode boot menu items too?
[19:53] <Joe__> Alan502 there are some really good crossplatform tools out there, but the big guys don't see us as worth the effort... indies are where we'll get our good games for now
[19:53] <mka> adminewb1, I know but for a family friendly computer those need to be hidden, the children can hardly sleep by those kernel versions
[19:53] <ipozgaj> part
[19:53] <bahman> But firefox dont open any webpage
[19:53] <adminewb1> mka, oh i see
[19:53] <mka> adminewb1, yes ofcourse, as well as that useless memtest thing
[19:53] <X-Sleepy-X> !vidalia | adalal
[19:53] <gmachine_24> Greetings earthlings. Merry Christmas. Ok, I am trying to run undvd and it "depends" on a couple things I cannot find for Linux/Ubuntu - MP4Creator which apparently is a Cisco thing and only for Windows? Is this so? I am also missing mkmerge and ogmmerge. This is undvd version 0.7.5
[19:54] <gmachine_24> I want a command-line dvd backup.....
[19:54] <adalal> wait... ubottu didn't reply
[19:54] <X-Sleepy-X> adalal: vidalia = controller GUI for the Tor software
[19:54] <adalal> ahh okay
[19:54] <Alan502> Joe__, yeah, well i guess it'll happen as linux and mac grow more popular over windows... Microsoft's reign is being taken by Google =P and Google has shown its efforts to support open source
[19:54] <X-Sleepy-X> adalal: <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vidalia
[19:54] <meydlo> nobody have experience with ("ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout")?
[19:55] <adminewb1> mka, you can strip down your boot menu, but afaik that would mean you'd have to boot manually at the grub2 cmd prompt if something went haywire and you needed to start in maintenance mode; is that ok?
[19:55] <adalal> ah
[19:55] <bahman> Could anyone help me in vidalia, Tor and Pirvoxy?!
[19:55] <gmachine_24> meydio, timeout?
[19:55] <X-Sleepy-X> bahman: What you need?
[19:55] <gmachine_24> sorry, meydlo
[19:56] <Alan502> Joe__, brb
[19:56] <Datz> Hi, I'm trying to run a ".run" file, but the archive manager wants to open it.
[19:56] <X-Sleepy-X> bahman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[19:56] <bahman> I install vidalia and Tor. Vidalia start Tor correctly, but firefox don't open webpages
[19:56] <adalal> Datz: run it from the command line
[19:57] <meydlo> can't reset hardware (-5)
[19:57] <meydlo> failed to wake up MAC chip
[19:57] <Datz> adalal, Do I just ./some.run  ?
[19:57] <mka> adminewb1, that is NOT ok. So, in simple English, there is no way to customise the entries on the GRUB2 boot loader menu?
[19:57] <adalal> Datz: yes... as long as ur in that folder :)
[19:57] <jamiejackson> what app should i use to copy audio cds in ubuntu? brasero plain doesn't work right now. makes coasters.
[19:57] <Datz>  ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.53-pkg1.run: command not found
[19:57] <adalal> mka: there actually is, it's jus very messed up
[19:58] <Ov3rf10w> Datz, chmod +x file.run
[19:58] <gmachine_24> ok........so forget about undvd for a moment... what do people use to back up their dvds?
[19:58] <obaid> sh Nvidia.....run
[19:58] <rsk> Datz, try sh sudo NVIDIA
[19:58] <Datz> ok
[19:58] <adminewb1> mka, yes you can customize, but it's a process one doesn't undertake so lightly
[19:58] <mka> adalal, adminewb1, grub2 is NOT user friendly then
[19:59] <adalal> mka: well, not so far no.. hopefully this will change SOOON
[19:59] <adalal> u can add custom entries quite easily though, mka
[19:59] <kheera> mka: more userfriendly than the windows alternative.
[19:59] <mka> kheera, we are not talking anything about windows
[19:59] <adminewb1> grub2 is slightly more friendly than grub, if you're starting from the ignorance of both, in my estimation
[20:00] <Autie> i need to read about grub2, its kinda different than grub
[20:00] <adalal> mka: you just can't edit the automatically configured entries easily
[20:01] <ubuntunewbie> anyone know how to set nvidia setting ? my refresh rate keep on reset to default when I restart window
[20:01] <mka> adminewb1, I rest my case. adalal, you are right. there is no straightforward way to edit the entries
[20:02] <jamiejackson> What app can I use to copy audio CDs in Ubuntu? Brasero is broken, ATM.
[20:02] <eumesmotoaki> #ubuntu
[20:02] <adalal> mka: like i said, to edit no.. but u can add custom ones
[20:02] <elzoog> admin:  If gub2 is more user friendly, then how do you change the menu entry from "Windows NT/2000/XP (on /dev/sda1)" to "Windows XP Professional"
[20:02] <apparle> guys someone plz tell me how to put my computer to sleep... I can't find the option sleep nor suspend to RAM
[20:02] <adminewb1> mka, that would beg the question of what one considers as straightforward, within the field of configuring things on Unix-like systems in general
[20:02] <mka> adalal, the menu is already crowded
[20:03] <jamiejackson> apparle: sudo pm-suspend
[20:03] <elzoog> adminewb1:  In old grub, all I would have to do is edit the line in the menu.lst file.   Since you say grub2 is more user friendly, there should be a simpler way to do that in grub2
[20:03] <apparle> jamiejackson: Actually I think ubuntu thinks my MoBo doesn't support suspend to RAM
[20:03] <mka> adminewb1, ok I withdraw my statement about straightforwardness, but IT CANNOT BE DONE!!
[20:04] <Bookman> I am logged into another computer via ssh, how do I copy a file using cp command?  I've read the man page, but it comes with no examples that I could find.
[20:04] <pepperjack> apparle: should be in your screensaver settings --> power management
[20:04] <pepperjack> or just system --> power management
[20:04] <adminewb1> elzoog, you can edit grub.cfg also, but with the understanding that your customizing can be clobbered next time an autoupdate sets up a new kernel, for instance
[20:05] <adalal> pepperjack: there is separate screensaver settings
[20:05] <apparle> pepperjack: I'll check
[20:05] <X-Sleepy-X> Bookman: if the file needs permissions put sudo infront of it, otherwise: cp file file-copy
[20:06] <X-Sleepy-X> Bookman: you could also do like this, cd /var/www and then sudo cp /home/user/file .
[20:06] <obaid> bookman, u are trying to copy file off the server ?
[20:06] <Bookman> yes
[20:06] <X-Sleepy-X> oh i c
[20:06] <X-Sleepy-X> ;)
[20:06] <elzoog> adminewb1:  That's another point.  If they wanted to make grub2 MORE user friendly and not LESS user friendly, then why didn't they give the option of automatically replacing old kernel entries in the menu with new ones?
[20:06] <adminewb1> mka, something could be done, but it might not suit your wishes for ease of use, maintainability and so forth
[20:06] <obaid> u could do this various ways, have u got, ftp, samba, www running on ur server ?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> elzoog, you can edit in  /boot/grub/grub.cfg , save it , then do sudo update-grub.
[20:07] <mka> adminewb1, that file begs you with capital letters that you should not attempt editing it
[20:07] <Bookman> obaid, I assume I have to ftp instead of trying to copy?
[20:07] <obaid> cp cannot copy cross network
[20:07] <X-Sleepy-X> Bookman: you can connect with nautilus
[20:07] <adminewb1> elzoog, not sure I understand; I thought it did just that
[20:07] <mka> adminewb1, I know, but nothing is done yet
[20:08] <Bookman> X-Sleepy-X, yes, I know that.  I just thought I could from the command line
[20:08] <X-Sleepy-X> Bookman: yeah, scp
[20:08] <obaid> Bookman, u can try to use netcat to send a single file
[20:08] <adminewb1> mka, I think the caps are to scare off people who are not so well informed; it can be edited, I do it often; I just do it knowing it's at my own risk
[20:08] <X-Sleepy-X> Bookman: http://www.go2linux.org/scp-linux-command-line-copy-files-over-ssh
[20:09] <elzoog> adminewb1:  In other words, instead of displaying to the user "Ubuntu, Linux generic 2.12.123123    Ubuntu, Linux generic 2.13.1232"  call it "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" then when the kernel is updated, have "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" point to the generic 2.13.1232 kernel instead of the 2.12.123123 kernel.
[20:10] <elzoog> adminewb1: In other words INTERNALLY, keep the name of the kernel whatever user unfriendly name you want to call it.   But simply change the TEXT that is displayed in the menu
[20:10] <adminewb1> elzoog, ok, if you're going to customize the text of the menu entries, it would be up to you to save a backup and hand-edit to clean up after autoupdates; I realize this is not a terribly satisfying answer
[20:10] <ai9371> i want to set up web server
[20:11] <Bookman> X-Sleepy-X, scp is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
[20:11] <ai9371> with PHP mySQL  support
[20:11] <X-Sleepy-X> Bookman: your welcome
[20:11] <manowar3> ai9371, a production server or a development server?
[20:11] <guntbert> !lamp | ai9371
[20:11] <mota_> hi
[20:11] <mka> grrrrrr
[20:11] <mota_> I am new to ubuntu I am currently using a live cd
[20:11] <adminewb1> elzoog, right, I wouldn't really recommend changing the file names of your kernels; you might add some handy symbolic links as mnemonic I suppose
[20:11] <X-Sleepy-X> ai9371: when you install with the server CD you will get the choice to select LAMP, that will give you what you need...
[20:12] <elzoog> adminewb1:  The thing is, if it was for me I wouldn't care.  But I am setting up this netbook as a present for my 8 year old daughter.   So you can understand, I want to minimize confusing stuff.
[20:12] <mota_> I am trying to get nds wrapper and I dont know how to use it ? or how to get it to work can someone help me ?
[20:12] <Mwa`> How do I find the keychains and reset the password for the main one? Encryption and keyrings just has privat key info in it. This thing has set up a keychain with a password I don't know and put all my stuff in it. >:(
[20:12] <Mwa`> and why is there a ` in my name
[20:12] <mka> ai9371, sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql mysql-server5.0
[20:13] <elzoog> adminewb1:  I don't want to change the name of the actual kernel.   I just want to change the TEXT that is displayed in the menu
[20:13] <mkquist_> elzoog: i thought you could make a custom menu for grub?
[20:13] <adminewb1> elzoog, to make your system bootable by nongeeks, would it be adequate simply to setup a default menu item with a timeout, so they just wait 10sec for it to go by itself?
[20:13] <mkquist_> elzoog: or just boot with no menu...
[20:14] <adalal> u can!
[20:14] <Datz> ok, well I tried installing the .run file. But to intsall the driver, I can't have"X" started.  How can I disable X?
[20:14] <adalal> u can make custom entries for grunb
[20:14] <adalal> grub*
[20:14] <mota_> Can someone help me get ndswrapper to work please ?
[20:14] <elzoog> adminewb1:  Well, one thing I DO like about grub2, is there is an option to automatically boot to the last OS you booted to before.   So if the last time you booted to Ubuntu, it will default to Ubuntu.   If the last time you booted to Windows, the next time the default will be Windows.
[20:15] <adminewb1> elzoog, customizing the boot menu item text (without changing internal representations) means you're on the hook for keeping that in place, while the automated system of updating grub.cfg is going to clobber your changes
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> mota_: you need the inf file for the driver i believe
[20:15] <Datz> How can I kill X to install a driver?
[20:15] <adalal> Datz: on the command line
[20:15] <mota_> x-sleepy-x where do I get that ?
[20:15] <adalal> Datz: sudo service gdm stop
[20:15] <Datz> that will drop me down to shell?
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> mota_: ndiswrapper uses windows drivers
[20:15] <adminewb1> that's why they warn you about manual editing of grub.cfg
[20:16] <X-Sleepy-X> mota_: i think
[20:16] <DaZ> Datz: should
[20:16] <X-Sleepy-X> !ndiswrapper
[20:16] <Datz> lets try, thanks
[20:16] <DaZ> Datz: but, you know, the drivers are usually already in the repo :F
[20:16] <elzoog> adminewb1:  The thing is, when most people think of booting to an OS, they think of booting to Ubuntu, not Ubuntu generic 2.18.12938
[20:16] <z3rongod> Is it possible to install and use wine with ubuntu live cd ?
[20:17] <Datz> sudo: service: command not found  DaZ
[20:17] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: yes
[20:17] <Datz> adalal ^
[20:17] <z3rongod> Well i tried doing "wine isntallname.exe"
[20:17] <z3rongod> And said i am missing the application or something and i should do sudo apt-get
[20:17] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: sudo apt-get install wine
[20:17] <z3rongod> so i did
[20:17] <DaZ> Datz: sudo init 3
[20:17] <elzoog> adminewb1:  So if you want to make it so that PEOPLE can easily use it, you should show them what they understand.
[20:17] <CrocoJet> is good idea compile kernel linux-2.6.32.2 to karmic ?
[20:17] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: sudo apt-get install wine1.2
[20:17] <z3rongod> And said it can't, i tried wine1.2
[20:17] <adminewb1> z3rongod, wine comes from a separate repository
[20:17] <z3rongod> and it can't either
[20:17] <adalal> just wine
[20:17] <Datz> DaZ, then run previouscommand?
[20:17] <DaZ> CrocoJet: do you need it?
[20:17] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: winecfg
[20:18] <adalal> not wine1.2
[20:18] <z3rongod> winecfg ?
[20:18] <DaZ> Datz: no, that should do it
[20:18] <z3rongod> sudo apt-get install winecfg
[20:18] <z3rongod> ?
[20:18] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: if you have wine installed the run winecfg
[20:18] <DaZ> Datz: init 5 should restart x
[20:18] <z3rongod> ok
[20:18] <CrocoJet> DaZ, to get new update of gspca driver
[20:18] <z3rongod> How do i run it ?
[20:18] <Datz> DaZthanks
[20:18] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: type winecfg in terminal
[20:18] <z3rongod> ok
[20:18] <z3rongod> brb
[20:18] <mka> z3rongod, adminewb1, enable the universe and multiverse repositories and then do an update and then install wine
[20:19] <DaZ> CrocoJet: you can try [;
[20:19] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: thats just to create the folders and stuff for wine
[20:19] <CrocoJet> why ubuntu oficial is always delayed with last kernel version?
[20:19] <Datz> DaZ, sudo init 3 appears to have done nothing visible
[20:19] <mka> z3rongod, I could not install xchat on livecd only to find out that the universe and multiverse repositories are commented
[20:19] <adminewb1> elzoog, maybe I'm missing something; your gripe is with grub2, not legacy grub yes?
[20:19] <elzoog> adminewb1:  Also, it should give you the option of deleting old kernels so that your menu doesn't end up getting cluttered up
[20:19] <DaZ> eh [;
[20:20] <sherl0ck> exit
[20:20] <sherl0ck> quit
[20:20] <elzoog> adminewb1:  Yeah, with legacy grub, I would not be having so much of a problem.
[20:20] <DaZ> Datz: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:20] <Datz> thanks
[20:20] <adminewb1> elzoog, did you want a GUI tool that simplifies the management of grub2 customizing?
[20:20] <mka> elzoog, good luck my friend
[20:20] <adalal> elzoog: you can remove all the conf file, and just use the custom one, and put in whatever u want i s'pose
[20:20] <elzoog> adminewb1:  Does a GUI tool like that exist?
[20:21] <BinaryMan> elzoog: Just delete the initrd image and vmlinuz file for the older kernel from /boot
[20:21] <Joe__> adalal and I win! :P
[20:21] <adminewb1> elzoog, I think there is, but it may not suit everyone or be flexible enough for all purposes
[20:21] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: yeah, as mka said: go to the menu > system > administration > software sources and make sure the first 4 checboxes are checked.
[20:21] <adalal> niceeeeeeeee
[20:21] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: then install wine
[20:22] <BinaryMan> then run sudo update-grub
[20:22] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: and then the program you wish to install through wine
[20:22] <elzoog> adminewb1:  Well, a GUI tool even if it doesn't do everything, would be better than reading confusing docs and trying to figure out which text file to edit.
[20:22] <adminewb1> I'd search synaptic packages for all reference to grub
[20:22] <sychonaut> Hey all.. I just installed Ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 on an EEE pc 1005ha. I finally got the internal microphone working with sound recorder but I can not get the internal mic to work with Skype. Any suggestions?
[20:22] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: note that what you install on in the live session may not be there when you reboot.
[20:23] <Duskao> Hey guys, is there any way I can set my CPU's for performance settings by default as opposed to on demand?
[20:23] <X-Sleepy-X> sychonaut: have you tested all the options in skype?
[20:23] <adminewb1> I'd do it now, except I'm in WinXP :/
[20:24] <sychonaut> X-Sleepy-X, I can only  choose pulse audio. I have tried downloading the pulse audio mixer to make sure it was enabled but it did not help.
[20:26] <X-Sleepy-X> sychonaut: in that case im lost
[20:26] <X-Sleepy-X> sry
[20:26] <z3rongod> ok so i've wrote it down
[20:26] <z3rongod> i did that command
[20:26] <z3rongod> The program winecfg can be found in the following packages: wine  wine1.2
[20:27] <z3rongod> i try sudo install apt get wine  1.2 (or however it's typed)
[20:27] <sychonaut> X-Sleepy-X, ok thanks. I guess trying to get skype to detect alsa would work too. just a matter of figuring out how to do that.
[20:27] <z3rongod> The follwoing packages have unset dependencies
[20:27] <adminewb1> maybe someone here can help direct me to a better support channel: how do I find out more about IRC host / IM network interconnects?
[20:27] <mka> adminewb1, elzoog, I remember another GUI that claimed to make things easy for GRUB legacy, it did more harm than good, GRUB2 needs to be friendly with or without a GUI frontend. As this is a critical part of the whole OS, there should not be any excuses about this. otherwise the installation process should always ask you to choose the grub version you want to use
[20:27] <z3rongod> wine 1.2: Deppends: libmpg123-o but is not installable
[20:27] <oskar-> hi, i use karmic. my init system is somehow mixed up: sshd and the getty processes on tty1-6 do not start at system boot. i suggest the migration to upstart went wrong. any ideas repairing upstart?
[20:27] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: go to the menu > system > administration > software sources and make sure the first 4 checboxes are checked.
[20:27] <z3rongod> depends libopenal1 but it's not installable
[20:27] <z3rongod> ok
[20:28] <sharif> How to be able to find a form of bandwidth quota in ubuntu so i can limit speed while sharing Internet for users via Ubuntu Internet sharing machine ?
[20:29] <mka> z3rongod, and after doing what X-Sleepy-X told you to do, do a sudo apt-get update before trying to install
[20:29] <bartmon> Hi! I have a problem with suspend on my laptop ever since the karmic upgrade. My sound is just dead after suspend! Even logging in and out helps, all pulseaudio processes get restarted but to no avail. It seems to be a kernel issue?
[20:29] <Duskao> nobody knows how to do it?
[20:29] <z3rongod> i did install wine1.2
[20:29] <andre_> /q
[20:29] <andre_> \q
[20:29] <z3rongod> did i do wrong?
[20:30] <P1R1> Hey Guys, I need a Xmas miracle...I was saving all of my dad's computer to a usb drive. But now the usb drive wont mount, and I cant lose that data. Please help me.
[20:30] <z3rongod> it's installing...
[20:30] <X-Sleepy-X> Duskao: im looking into it now
[20:30] <shilan1> hi i have a problem with my keyboard laptop in ubuntu, in first time it dosen't work, i mean i should start with windows and then restart my laptop and then go to ubuntu why ?
[20:30] <meero> how to force grep to not break long lines?
[20:30] <Duskao> thanks X
[20:30] <mka> z3rongod, i think it's fine then
[20:30] <z3rongod> cool
[20:30] <z3rongod> be back
[20:31] <mka> shilan1, what did you do when you went to windows?
[20:31] <Duskao> X-Sleepy-X I have found that when it isn't set to 2.3 gigs or performance then they processors max out at 3.45 ghz (triple processor) instead of 6.9 ghz.
[20:32] <mka> shilan1, all the keys did not work or you are talking about the special Fn keys?
[20:32] <shilan1> mka: i do nothing, in windows thats work properly
[20:32] <shilan1> mka: all keys not work olso my tuchpad too
[20:32] <richardha> Get windows keys for 5eur only http://bit.ly/5Tgz2X :)
[20:32] <mka> shilan1, so you are on windows now?
[20:33] <X-Sleepy-X> !ops richardha
[20:33] <shilan1> mka: no after i restart the key work in ubuntu
[20:33] <richardha> Get windows keys for 5eur only http://bit.ly/5Tgz2X :)
[20:33] <shilan1> mka: i'm now on ubuntu
[20:34] <mka> shilan1, maybe that was a once off problem not even related to your keyboard
[20:34] <Joe__> ok my last battle... ca-certificates-java fails to install on configuration, but I'm not finding a fix (or one I understand)
[20:34] <xiong> My main menu is definitely messed up. How can I completely reset it to 'factory default'?
[20:34] <Shawn-> why is ubuntu not starting wireless networking?
[20:34] <Shawn-> on my netbook
[20:34] <mka> shilan1, remember linux can hang too
[20:34] <shilan1> mka: sorry i don't undrestand your answer
[20:35] <meero> how to force grep to not break long lines?
[20:35] <adminewb1>  I could be using the wrong domain language, but need help anyway... can someone here direct me to a better support channel: how do I find out more about IRC host / IM network interconnects?
[20:35] <mka> shilan1, maybe you system hanged
[20:35] <shilan1> mka: no, any time this happen
[20:35] <X-Sleepy-X> Duskao: They have removed the option I was looking for in gconf-editor, now I'm looking for another way to do it.
[20:35] <guntbert> meero: grep doesn't "break lines"
[20:35] <Duskao> lol, ok. Thanks a bunch.
[20:35] <arquebus> adminewb1: go to #linux
[20:36] <adminewb1> ok thanks arquebus
[20:36] <mka> shilan1, oh? under what condition it happens, I thought you said you are on linux now and it works fine
[20:36] <arquebus> np
[20:36] <Joe__> nvm, think I found it
[20:36] <X-Sleepy-X> Duskao: I think you will find the answer here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1216062
[20:36] <Joe__> after my upgrade I see I still have jaunty and karmic repos in my list, it shouldn't be that way should it?
[20:37] <adalal> u can easily update them
[20:37] <mka> Shawn-, because it is not properly configured
[20:37] <Duskao> thanks.
[20:37] <X-Sleepy-X> yw
[20:37] <shilan1> mka: the first time when i turn on my lop top it not work but after each restart when once windows lunched it work
[20:37] <meero> guntbert: id does for me , im greping some logs, is really anoying when break
[20:38] <Shawn-> what do I do if ubuntu can't find my networking card on a netbook
[20:38] <guntbert> meero: what command are you using?
[20:38] <mka> shilan1, does the log in screen appear?
[20:38] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: Throw the netbook out and buy a new one?
[20:39] <shilan1> mka: i set it to login automically
[20:39] <mka> Shawn-, what do you mean?
[20:39] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x not really an option
[20:39] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: start by typing lspci in a terminal
[20:39] <guntbert> X-Sleepy-X: please stay helpful
[20:39] <Shawn-> mka it won't start wireless networking
[20:39] <meero> guntbert:  cat auth.log |grep -v  CRON
[20:39] <mka> shilan1, does it log in automatically?
[20:39] <X-Sleepy-X> guntbert: i am, i just made a short joke
[20:39] <guntbert> X-Sleepy-X: :-)
[20:39] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[20:39] <shilan1> mka: yes
[20:39] <z3rongod> ok
[20:39] <z3rongod> well
[20:40] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x I did that it finds the networking controller but won't start wireless
[20:40] <mka> shilan1, I would like to know at what point does your keyboard stops working
[20:40] <z3rongod> how can i apply a crack? :|
[20:40] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: give me the output of the wireless controller
[20:40] <Shawn-> I'm on my phone
[20:40] <shilan1> mka: me too :)
[20:40] <z3rongod> it's not possible is it?
[20:41] <mka> shilan1, maybe turn off automatic log in
[20:41] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: what are you talking about now?
[20:41] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x it finds a network controller and an ethernet controller
[20:41] <guntbert> meero: you don't need cat here - instead pipe the results to less : grep -iv cron /var/log/auth.log | less     --- you can leave less by pressing q
[20:41] <z3rongod> I've installed bejeweled 2 and can't find a working serial for it
[20:41] <z3rongod> So i came across some cracks but don't know if they work or how to apply them
[20:41] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: do you get any type of connection, wired or wireless?
[20:42] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x I have no wired to plug into
[20:42] <X-Sleepy-X> z3rongod: that sound illegal
[20:42] <X-Sleepy-X> sounds*
[20:42] <mka> shilan1, if you cannot even type your username and password then the problem is at early boot stages, maybe there is some module that needs to be blacklisted
[20:42] <z3rongod> X-Sleepy-X: it might be i don't know
[20:43] <z3rongod> so having illegal copies of windows since 95
[20:43] <guntbert> !piracy | z3rongod
[20:43] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: paste the output of lspci at http://pastebin.com
[20:43] <z3rongod> Oh i see
[20:43] <oskar-> hi again. what is the normal runlevel in karmic? on my machine executing "runlevel" says: "unknown"
[20:43] <mka> Shawn-, cracks are illegal
[20:43] <protojay> !piracy | protojay
[20:43] <chazco> Hi... how can I record a currently playing sound?
[20:43] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x I can't on my phone since no internet
[20:43] <shilan1> mka: tnx , but i dont know about blacklist
[20:43] <guntbert> !runlevels | oskar-
[20:43] <Shawn-> mka I never talked about cracks
[20:44] <guntbert> !askthebot > protojay
[20:44] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: sry my mistake
[20:44] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x any ideas?
[20:44] <Joe__> after upgradining from 9.04 to 9.10 I see the jaunty repos are still active, should I disable them?
[20:44] <mka> shilan1, I remember a module for my Compro TV card made my whole ubuntu system to hang, I had to blacklist it
[20:45] <Zorael> It's not possible to bind (xmodmap) a single key to be another key + a modifier, is it? Like, to bind a multimedia key to be Ctrl+Tab?
[20:45] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: can you type the line in lspci here, the line that says something about the wireless card?
[20:45] <J_spot> Hi, I have a bit of problem with the network manager. A little while back I was connecting to my DSL directly (with pppoeconfig) which auto-configured my /etc/network/interfaces file. A little while ago I had to switch to using a router to give wireless access to others and I manually edited /etc/network/interfaces so I could connect to my router. The problem is that networkmanager doesn't manage my connections anymore. My network works
[20:45] <J_spot> just fine otherwise. Is there some way to get networkmanager working again?
[20:45] <meero> guntbert: this grep -iv... |less does the line breaking too :-)
[20:45] <mka> shilan1, you can make your system to print messages as it is starting up and note the name of the module it is loading by the time it hangs
[20:46] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x it never metions a wireless card only network or ethernet
[20:46] <mka> shilan1, then take the name of  that module to google and see if there are any issues with that module
[20:46] <shilan1> mka: how ?
[20:46] <xiong> Does anybody have any clue about the main menu? Point me to a place to study up? Where is the starting point?
[20:46] <adalal> what main menu xiong?
[20:47] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: what does iwconfig tell you?
[20:47] <guntbert> meero: in less you can always switch by pressing S, but you can call less with -S too (grep -iv cron /var/log/auth.log | less -S)
[20:47] <mka> shilan1, in GRUB1 there was menu.lst and you would turn off usplash and remove the "quiet" option
[20:47] <mka> shilan1, in grub2 I really do not know
[20:47] <Shawn-> x-sleepy_x no wireless extensions
[20:47] <xiong> adalal, Er. *the* main menu. Part of my problem is that I don't know what to call it, or how many components it comprises. I'm truly lost here.
[20:47] <n8tuser> J_spot-> what is the real issue? what is  not workin?
[20:47] <X-Sleepy-X> shilan1: you edit the settings in sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[20:47] <shilan1> mka: i have grub1
[20:48] <mka> shilan1, good!
[20:48] <X-Sleepy-X> shilan1: oh, never mind my comment then
[20:48] <n8tuser> xiong describe what you see, what you want added what you want remove?
[20:48] <mka> shilan1, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:48] <X-Sleepy-X> mka: sudo nano /etc/default/grub to edit grub2 ;)
[20:49] <guntbert> mka: gksudo not sudo
[20:49] <J_spot> n8tuser: Everything works, it's just I have to do it manually - networkmanager is kaput. It doesn't manage any devices. Can I reconfigure it somehow?
[20:49] <Question_> anyone know how I could merge those two partitions? http://www.pastebin.ca/1726973
[20:49] <meero> guntbert: as u told me that greo should not break lines, i tried to look in putty settings and there is "autowrap" enabled default :-)
[20:49] <mka> guntbert, X-Sleepy-X, thanks guys!
[20:49] <guntbert> !gksudo | mka shilan1
[20:49] <n8tuser> J_spot-> is NetworkManager running?  ps aux|grep manager
[20:50] <mka> shilan1, gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:50] <guntbert> meero: ok, but I still prefer to use less -S anyway
[20:50] <z3rongod> Oh well
[20:50] <z3rongod> i'll just install the game
[20:50] <z3rongod> over and over each hour
[20:50] <n8tuser> J_spot-> is NetworkManager running?  ps aux|grep Manager
[20:50] <meero> guntbert: thanks anyway
[20:50] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x any suggestions?
[20:50] <z3rongod> and switch back to windows when i get my new hdd
[20:50] <z3rongod> thanks for the help with wine
[20:50] <J_spot> n8tuser: Erm.. nope it doesn't show up. I guess the icon in the panel is unrelated to it?
[20:50] <guntbert> meero: np
[20:50] <xiong> adalal, I'm uncertain about the simplest assertions here. I see three menus at the left end of the top panel; I can't remember a time when they weren't there, although now I fear I might have put them there very early in installation of the last Ubuntu version. They are 'Applications', 'Places', 'System'. I don't know if a single program generates all three, or how many are involved, or what. I'm fairly convinced that they are mes
[20:50] <xiong> sed up due to some bad configuration and I'd like to completely remove and reinstall them, deleting all user configuration, and just start over.
[20:51] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: check if you can activate any networks drivers in system > administration > hardware drivers
[20:51] <mka> shilan1, an then the line with "kernel /vmlinuz root= ... ro quiet splash" make it like "kernel /vmlinuz root= .... ro"
[20:51] <n8tuser> J_spot-> the icon is an applet, look for nm
[20:51] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x nope
[20:51] <danny> is there any recovery tool for deleted data on an ntfs partition in ubuntu?
[20:51] <nightfrog> guntbert: you dont need gksudo to run nano. nano isnt a gtk program
[20:51] <mka> shilan1, that is, remove the "splash" and "quiet" flags
[20:51] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: what pc do you have?
[20:51] <n8tuser> danny you are out of luck on that..no recovery i know of
[20:52] <adalal> u can get them back
[20:52] <guntbert> nightfrog: yes, but he recommended gedit
[20:52] <adalal> xiong:
[20:52] <danny> oh man
[20:52] <xiong> adalal, I'm not even sure what I'm fighting. Are Debian and Ubuntu fighting? Are Gnome and KDE fighting? It looks like both are possible.
[20:52] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x uhhh its an hp mini with an intel atom n270 I don't remember the netbook model number
[20:52] <n8tuser> xiong-> may as well start fresh, re-install freshly
[20:53] <_qUaNtUm_>  hi guys, on firefox items are not being visualized on my bookmarks toolbar: i have many of em and they dont fit in the space of my screen so usually at the end of the toolbar there's a little arrow and by clicking on it the remaining ones appear, now there's no arrow and just the sign of another bookmark, if i right click on it, itz this "bookmarks toolbar items" icon which is never been there before, i run ubuntu 8.10 with ff3
[20:53] <marcelo> #join
[20:53] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: i remember from the easy peasy forums that a user couldnt get that wifi card working, not sure if it got solved though...
[20:53] <marcelo> list
[20:53] <fanti> hello! i've some problems using fglrx graphics driver: new windows appears very slow when desktop effects are enabled (composite).
[20:53] <Shawn-> x-sleepy-x and what do I do
[20:54] <guntbert> xiong: those are the standard menues - you can edit them yourself: richgt click on applications/edit menues
[20:54] <xiong> n8tuser, That's my idea. I don't know how to do that. I'm not even sure how to search for background, how to study the issue, because I don't know what to call things. I'm floundering in detailed docs for 'XDG' without having any idea what controls menus, in a practical user sense.
[20:54] <X-Sleepy-X> Shawn-: sorry but i'm not sure, try to google alot on it or hang around here until you get someone who knows, perhaps join #eeepc alse
[20:54] <X-Sleepy-X> also*
[20:54] <P1R1> Hey guys, my usb drive wont mount, and I really need the data that is inside...What can I do?
[20:54] <xiong> guntbert, My issue is that the standard editing procedure doesn't work properly.
[20:54] <dbugger> Hey guys! My ubuntu has frozen several times lately, and it seems like it always happens when Im playing video, or maybe ven playing some flash games. Wasnt supposed Linux to be freezeproof?
[20:55] <EsatYuce> How can i be admin in Launchpad? i typed to #Launchpad channel, but there is nobody to answer me.
[20:55] <guntbert> xiong: in what way?
[20:55] <xiong> guntbert, Rather than try to undo what is wrong, since it's difficult to describe, I'd be happy just to start *completely* over with this. Less trouble for everyone, yes?
[20:55] <chazco> Hi... is there any way to record the sound from an application in 9.10?
[20:55] <drakhan> 16gb for / is too much? given that i dont want to have o my god number of programs, window managers and dont know what more
[20:56] <BlouBlou> chazco: RecordMyDesktop maybe?
[20:56] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: do you have the right driver for graphics?
[20:56] <xiong> guntbert, That is: Totally remove everything that controls or configures those three menus and reinstall from a fresh download.
[20:56] <n8tuser> xiong-> pull out your livecd rom and insert then click on install
[20:56] <adamot> I have ubuntu Karmic Koala and I have two drives on my computer. one drive is the drive i'm booted off of and the other only contains media. everytime i boot i have to re-mount my secondary drive. how do i keep this secondary drive mounted?
[20:56] <n8tuser> upon boot
[20:56] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, I dont know. it all worked pretty much out of the box
[20:56] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, What should I do?
[20:56] <guntbert> xiong: I see  - you also colud just add a new user
[20:57] <xiong> n8tuser, That is more extreme even than I want to get into. I don't want to do a complete reinstall of Ubuntu if I can help it.
[20:57] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: you can enable compiz?
[20:57] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, I am using compiz
[20:57] <xiong> guntbert, I have already located what is supposed to be the config dir for the menus and deleted it, without luck. This is, perhaps, not a user issue.
[20:57] <X-Sleepy-X> bbl
[20:58] <oCean_> adamot: adding entry in /etc/fstab will mount the second driver every boot. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[20:58] <xiong> I'm going to switch quickly to Guest and see what I see there.
[20:58] <ghost> Hi
[20:58] <Damian> hello
[20:58] <EsatYuce> How can i be admin in Launchpad? i typed to #Launchpad channel, but there is nobody to answer me.
[20:58] <Guest59797> Anybody have a list of Ubuntu based Distros that are for old computers?
[20:58] <n8tuser> xiong-> your choice, fiddle with the configs til your hair turn white or just bit it, and re-install freshly
[20:58] <Guest59797> I need lite-weight ones
[20:59] <adamot> oCean: I am really new to Ubuntu, do you think you could explain how to do that?
[20:59] <ania_> hello can somebody help me with sound??
[20:59] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, What does compiz has to do with it?
[20:59] <shilan1> mka: i have more than line like "kernel /vmlinuz root= ... ro quiet splash" all of them should change?
[20:59] <Damian> Guest59797 - I would recommend CrunchBang
[21:00] <n8tuser> adamot-> can you try to pick up a book on linux? perhaps a little time reading those and practice would help you.. i know it takes time
[21:00] <adamot> n8tuser haha okay
[21:00] <Guest59797> it wont install
[21:00] <mka> no change the one of the kernel you are booting (probably the latest version)
[21:00] <xiong> guntbert, I find the same trouble with Guest. In short, the Games submenu is surely messed up, in that sub-submenus can't be enabled. Something is wrong in the system.
[21:00] <ania_> plz help me with sound 9.10
[21:00] <oCean_> adamot: The link I send should be very easy to follow. In short: open the file /etc/fstab in your favorite editor, and add a line there specifying the 2nd hdd, the mountpoint, filsystemtype and mountoptions.
[21:00] <Guest59797> I donwloaded Crunchbang via torrent, and it wont boot up.
[21:00] <knopf> hi. does anyone know why "ssh -gNv -R :10000:localhost:15000 bla@example.com" results in "telnet localhost 15000" working but "telnet example.com 15000" doesn't work? thanks
[21:00] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: I'm not sure how to explain it, but if your driver is not compatible with compiz, your Xorg will crash when you play video in full screen.
[21:01] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, also happens when NOT in fullscreen. You think this might go away turning off compiz?
[21:01] <Guest59797> He has a Pentium II with 200MB of RAM, my brothers computer.  I need to install something lightweight on it..
[21:01] <MrKeuner> hello, is there a way to uninstall all the packages but base installation files?
[21:01] <Damian> you could always try debian with xfce
[21:01] <ania_> i ve got sound only after reload alsa forced reboot
[21:01] <ania_> what to do?
[21:01] <mka> shilan1, type "uname -r" and see the version of the kernel you have booted. and then edit the corresponding line in menu.lst
[21:01] <Guest59797> He's a n00b.  Isnt debian a bit more demanding than ubuntu?
[21:02] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest59797: SliTaz
[21:02] <Guest59797> I tried Xubuntu, it seems to be too much for the comp lol
[21:02] <Guest59797> Slitaz?
[21:02] <Guest59797> hmm
[21:02] <mka> shilan1, there is no harm in editing in all the file, but it is not worth it
[21:02] <Damian> it´s as easy as ubuntu
[21:02] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: Probably. What's the output of « lspci | grep VGA » ?
[21:02] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest59797: http://www.slitaz.org/en/
[21:02] <xeer> Happy holidays everyone. I just received a Logitech MX 5500 Revolution as a gift, it's said since logitech does not have linux drivers!
[21:02] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest59797: takes only 35 mb
[21:02] <shilan1> mka ok  tnx
[21:02] <Guest59797> Excellent, I will check it out.  I will give Debian a look at too.
[21:03] <isolat3dsh33p> ania_: which version of ubuntu u have?
[21:03] <Guest59797> Why not just use Debian instead of Ubuntu, then?
[21:03] <guntbert> xiong: sorry to hear that - still reinstalling a whole OS because of menu settings seems ....
[21:03] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[21:03] <xeer> The person getting the gift said they asked the salesman at Best Buy if it would work in linux, of course they would say yes
[21:03] <guntbert> xiong: ... extreme
[21:03] <ania_> 9.10
[21:03] <xeer> Does anyone know of a way to get the SetPoint software to work under WINE?
[21:03] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: and what's your driver use for that?
[21:03] <Guest59797> Damian: what are the advantages to Debian over ubuntu?  Just a curiosity. lol
[21:04] <xiong> guntbert, I'm not being clear. I want to erase the menu -- well, first I want to know what to *call* it. What makes the menus? How can I get docs on it?
[21:04] <oCean_> xeer: may be ask in #winehq?
[21:04] <guntbert> !ot Guest59797 Damian
[21:04] <mka> xeer what is the SetPoint software?
[21:04] <fanti> hello! is here somebody who is aware of the ati's fglrx / xorg-server problem, which causes very slow window-creation when compositing is enabled (desktop effects)?
[21:04] <Damian> Guest59797 - it doesn´t come with preinstalled appliactions and you can choose the graphical menager
[21:04] <xiong> guntbert, So far as I can tell, there may be two or three different overlapping things trying to get in on the menu generation process. I'm totally confused.
[21:04] <Guest59797> !ot?
[21:05] <BlouBlou> guntbert: separate command and users with a "|"
[21:05] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, as I said, working out of the box... i dont know anything about any driver
[21:05] <EsatYuce> ubottu
[21:05] <guntbert> BlouBlou: *I* know - only my fingers don#t
[21:05] <Guest59797> Slitaz can be installed to your HD?
[21:05] <mka> fanti: are you having enough memory?
[21:05] <P1R1> My pendrive will not mount, I need some help plz
[21:06] <Damian> Guest59797 - why don´t you try xubuntu? xfce is very low on resources
[21:06] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: try to go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers and see if any proprietary drivers listed there
[21:06] <fanti> mka: i guess so.. yes
[21:06] <jurisz> can I mount first root partition, second partition to /home and third to /home/xxx . Will there be conficts with second and third aprtition mount points?
[21:06] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest59797: yes
[21:06] <xeer> mka: it's what Logitech calls their drivers that run in windows
[21:06] <Darkchylde> Damian: xubuntu's a bit too heavy for the guest's machine.
[21:06] <Guest59797> Damian:  I did, it worked, but then my brothers task bar vanished. lol
[21:06] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, there isnt. In previous Ubuntu versions there was, but with the last ones, it's gone
[21:06] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest59797: Have you tried installing with the alternate CD for ubuntu?
[21:06] <Guest59797> X-Sleepy-X: Ok, on the site it was talking about booting from CDs and Pen drives.
[21:07] <Guest59797> X-Sleepy-X:  Ubuntu will install graphically, it just is very slow.
[21:07] <BlouBlou> guntbert: okok hehe
[21:07] <Guest59797> Once installed, etc.
[21:07] <fanti> mka: 4gb of ram and 512 mb of dedicated graphics memory
[21:08] <Guest59797> Damian: No idea why, I had problems installing Xubuntu on his computer anyways.
[21:08] <xiong> guntbert, I'm getting a very strong feeling that this menu issue is connected to the libxml-sax-perl issue, but I don't see how.
[21:08] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: type « lspci -k » and look for VGA and tell me what driver in use. :)
[21:08] <tarski> anyone know how to make wine under ubuntu suck less? i have a nvidia card and the fps in a game i am playing is allover the place sometimes 50 fps sometimes 9 fps!
[21:08] <mka> fanti: that is more than sufficient, you really need compiz?
[21:08] <shilan1> mka: should i remove this line "# defoptions=quiet splash"
[21:08] <fanti> mka: i'd like to use compiz, yes
[21:08] <mka> shilan1, leave it as it is
[21:09] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, I get this: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[21:09] <dbugger> 	Kernel modules: radeon, radeonfb
[21:09] <sebastian> jest ktoś z Polski??
[21:09] <mka> fanti, you say it works but its slow?
[21:09] <sebastian> jest ktoś z Polski??
[21:10] <mka> fanti: I am not aware of any speed related tweaks
[21:10] <guntbert> xiong: let me look for something
[21:10] <avar> After an hour of so of googling around I still can't find how to change the automounted mointpoint in /media for my mp3 device: http://pastie.org/756603
[21:10] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: try install the one from AMD website
[21:10] <Seeker`> !pl | sebastian
[21:10] <avar> I've tried setting what look to be the right values in gconf but that doesn't work
[21:10] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, should those work better?
[21:10] <mka> jurisz, can you state your problem again
[21:11] <xiong> guntbert, Let's try this. This other issue seems to be that I have a bad install of XML::SAX. But 'locate SAX' turns up dozens of entries. Can I somehow uninstall all versions of XML::SAX, reinstall, and see what I get then?
[21:11] <fanti> mka: this is an already known bug... which can be fixed by the 107_fedora_dont_backfill_bg_none.patch (google tells more about it)
[21:11] <fanti> mka: i'm just wondering if there is a workaround for that problem for ubuntu users
[21:11] <mka> fanti, and then? what happens when you follow those suggestions?
[21:12] <fanti> mka: i don't like to recompile xorg-server by myself....
[21:12] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: Usually it does. You're in which version of ubuntu and what kernel version? type « uname -a » if you don't know
[21:12] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, Linux dbugger-laptop 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:12] <mka> fanti, ok that is very deep for my level of understanding. but if you can recompile it, then go ahead
[21:13] <shilan1> mka:  should i remove quiet after " kernel /vmlinuz.. " in last line ?
[21:13] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: Wait...
[21:13] <mka> shilan1, yes
[21:14] <mka> shilan1, if there is "splash" on that specific line, remove it as well
[21:14] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, ok
[21:14] <sebastian> jest ktoś z Polski??
[21:14] <ssv1994> hello
[21:15] <pyrak> which is better for my 8-year-old brother's new netbook: edubuntu or ubuntu netbook remix?
[21:15] <guntbert> xiong: please ask the channel again - sorry I cannot help :-(
[21:15] <oskar-> hurray, i solved my upstart problems: the "auto lo" in /etc/network/interfaces was somehow missing, so that "lo" did not come up, which is precondition for "/etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf"
[21:15] <BluesKaj> !pl | sebastian
[21:15] <shilan1> mka: tnx
[21:16] <xiong> guntbert, Thanks for trying.
[21:16] <fanti> mka: is it possible to tell apt-get NOT to upgrade my custom compiled xorg-server while running an apt-get upgrade ?
[21:16] <sepehr> need help, tried getting wlan0 to work by installing kwlan but that failed and even killed my eth0 connection
[21:16] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: find your driver here -> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[21:17] <ssv1994> hello, does someone use linux mint?
[21:17] <pyrak> i think i'll go with edubuntu because the educational games can only be a good thing.  though i think the simplicity of the netbook remix interface might be nice...
[21:17] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, Yeah, i already did. SHould I install it?
[21:17] <BluesKaj> pyrak, difficult to say , do some research keeping in mind what your brothers interests are and what he wants to do with it
[21:17] <guntbert> !mint | ssv1994
[21:17] <P1R1> My usb drive will not mount in my computer anymore, but when I plug it in I get this message 3 times: [sdb] Asumming drive cache: Write throgh....What is happening?
[21:17] <mka> fanti: you can use to GUI to deselect the xorg-server upgrade and upgrade the remainder
[21:18] <Guest59797> Er,where do you download SLITAZ?
[21:18] <Guest59797> lol
[21:18] <Guest59797> There is no download area on their site.
[21:18] <mka> fanti: maybe there is a better way to tell apt to ignore it. that would be fancy!
[21:18] <sepehr> u want slitaz 2.0 or cooking
[21:18] <shilan1> !
[21:19] <Guest59797> sepher: what is "cooking"
[21:19] <pyrak> ah, looks like i can easily get all the educational games by installing one package
[21:19] <pyrak> ubuntu-edu-secondary
[21:19] <pyrak> so maybe i'll go with netbook remix and then grab all the games
[21:19] <Guest59797> sepher:  Where is the download option on the site?
[21:20] <sepehr> Guest59787: http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/#cooking
[21:20] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest59797: check pm
[21:20] <Guest59797> Thank you.
[21:21] <BluesKaj> Guest59797, or http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz
[21:21] <sharif> !help
[21:21] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: Try it and then reboot. If it does not work, you'll see your windows moving slow. And uninstall it, then reinstall the repo version of fglrx.
[21:22] <timbuk2> here's a question...why, everytime i load xchat, does it make me join this SHITTY FUCKING channel
[21:22] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, seems like my ATI card isnt supporter by fglrx :(
[21:22] <sepehr> Any1 know how to get my eth0 working again in kubuntu after i killed it trying to install kwlan from the package manager
[21:22] <xiong> Is it possible for the 'locate' command to cough up 'ghost' results of deleted files?
[21:22] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_910_linux.pdf
[21:22] <mobi-sheep> !wtf | timbuk2
[21:22] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, it's not on the list :(
[21:23] <guntbert> timbuk2: learn to use a) your language b) xchat
[21:23] <BluesKaj> timbuk2, because you have it set to autoconnect to this chat
[21:23] <bastid_raZor> timbuk2: because you've failed to uncheck connect on startup of chat...
[21:23] <timbuk2> i didn't set anything. i just installed the program. and i'd prefer if it didn't auto default to anything at all
[21:23] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: It should be this one -> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English
[21:23] <kheera> xiong: yes it is possible.  run updatedb to reindex after deleting files.
[21:24] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: you're using desktop right?
[21:24] <bastid_raZor> timbuk2: please learn how to use your software before making yourself look foolish.
[21:24] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, yeah
[21:24] <timbuk2> i can find nothing in the preferences menu that sets autoconnect
[21:24] <mobi-sheep> timbuk2: “Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage—anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.”  You're the angry one. Have some courage.
[21:24] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: then try the link i just gave you
[21:24] <xiong> kheera, Thanks. Also 'locate -e' seems to help.
[21:25] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, on it
[21:26] <xiong> kheera, Actually, 'updatedb' fails: updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'
[21:26] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: you got it?
[21:26] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, wait a moment, it's 80 f**king MB :)
[21:27] <edy> hi
[21:27] <jiffe20> how do I connect nautilus to a CIFS IP?
[21:27] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: LOL
[21:27] <timbuk2> under IRC Preferences, there is Nickname, Real name, Quit message, Part message, Away message, Highlighting, User Interface(subtopics: Use the system terminal font, use this font, log conversations, show timestamps, show marker line"
[21:27] <timbuk2> that is it...nothing else under IRC Preferences
[21:27] <miriam> hola
[21:27] <jiffe20> it is not on the same subnet do it doesn't show up under network
[21:27] <timbuk2> and I would definitely consider this auto-connect server nonsense a preference
[21:27] <Hydrosis> tumbuk2 what are you trying to do
[21:28] <xiong> kheera, Now I'm trying 'sudo updatedb' which seems to be working.
[21:28] <mobi-sheep> timbuk2: XChat --> Network List
[21:28] <timbuk2> Hyd: When I load xchat, I don't want it to connect me to any server, or join any channel
[21:28] <timbuk2> I looked in the Network list
[21:28] <timbuk2> it's just a list of servers
[21:28] <timbuk2> none of which are freenode
[21:28] <timbuk2> so i have no idea how i'm connecting to freenode or how i'd alter it
[21:28] <mkquist_> timbuk2 - check in nickname, see if there are identities maybe
[21:29] <mobi-sheep> timbuk2: irc.ubuntu.com -- That's a freenode server.
[21:29] <X-Sleepy-X> timbuk2: press Ctrl+S
[21:29] <Hydrosis> I connect to 0 servers when opening xchat.  Re-install?
[21:29] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, ok runing it
[21:29] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, yeah... as expected.... "Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[21:29] <dbugger> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.31-16-generic; make sure that the version is being
[21:29] <dbugger> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[21:29] <dbugger> "
[21:29] <FloodBot2> dbugger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <dbugger> ups, sorry
[21:29] <guntbert> Hydrosis: reinstall is seldom a remedy
[21:30] <Hydrosis> guntbert: when you want default settings re-install is the safest way to do it, unless the feature is built into the app.
[21:30] <timbuk2> ok
[21:30] <timbuk2> that works
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> timbuk2: do you have xchat or xchat-gnome
[21:30] <timbuk2> thanks for all your help
[21:30] <dbugger> guntbert, Dont blame him to think that. It's M$'s fault :D
[21:31] <sharif> How I can control bandwidth with Internet connection sharing ?
[21:31] <aar> Hi, after installing Ubuntu 9.10 it's taking a long time for my GRUB menu to load, as if BIOS was waiting for something to time out. What could be the problem?
[21:32] <guntbert> Hydrosis: I usually don't mess with my settings in such an extreme way - but if you want to remove everything you set in xchat - just rename .xchat2
[21:32] <DeadObama> Tired of Niggers and their stupid ape-like antics?
[21:32] <Hydrosis> YES!!!!
[21:32] <DeadObama> Join us at http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[21:32] <sinclair86> aar what comp you have might have to use lilo... google your model number
[21:32] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: after finished, reboot
[21:32] <guntbert> !ops | DeadObama
[21:32] <Hydrosis> *joins*
[21:33] <Hydrosis> LOl
[21:33] <isolat3dsh33p> LOL
[21:33] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, as you read, it didnt do anything. it says some "wrong version" thing
[21:34] <aar> isolat3dsh33p, GRUB worked OK with 8.04 in this computer.
[21:34] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: I'm not sure then. Disable compiz should solve the problem. :)
[21:34] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, I'll try that, even though Im not sure it doesnt happen then too... and I'll lose my dearly beloved zoom :(
[21:34] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, but I guess it's my only option ... thanks for the help
[21:34] <juank> alguien q me ayude a ver mi partición ntfs de win en xubuntu....
[21:35] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: You can install compiz-fusion-icon to easily enable and disable compiz :D
[21:35] <xiong> I'm certain that there is a serious issue with my install of 'libxml-sax-perl'. I can't even seem to remove it with synaptic. Is there a nuclear option??
[21:35] <Deviouz> what to do when gdm locks me out?? it happend twice now:/
[21:35] <MrKeuner> hello, is there a way to uninstall all the packages installed after basic installation?
[21:35] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: no problem ;)
[21:35] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, yeah, but it's so easy that I forget to disable before opening a video, it's pretty much the same :D
[21:36] <dbugger> Ciaoo ppl
[21:36] <dbugger> and Merry Xmas, btw
[21:36] <isolat3dsh33p> dbugger: just wait for 10.04... Just a few months left :)
[21:37] <mobi-sheep> MrKeuner: Uninstall the packages you installed.
[21:37] <dbugger> isolat3dsh33p, I wont hold my breath. Probably this will remain. Also happened in 9.04
[21:37] <juank> someone that help me to see my windows partition in xubuntu
[21:37] <Pelo> afternoon folks  , anyone know anything about ssh keygen ? i'M having problems iwth mine it's no longer working
[21:37] <sharif> anyone able to help me ?
[21:37] <sharif> Happy Holidays Everyone :)
[21:37] <dbugger> time to sleep it off
[21:37] <dbugger> ciao!
[21:37] <Pelo> juank,   sudo apt-get install ntfs-config , or some such
[21:38] <juank> thanks
[21:38] <guntbert> Deviouz: in what way does it lock you out? do you get a username prompt? are you asked for your password?
[21:38] <MrKeuner> mobi-sheep, yes how can I do that
[21:38] <juank> it's the first time that I use linux
[21:38] <guntbert> !ask | sharif
[21:38] <tego> wanna know how to scan ip  on my local network
[21:38] <isolat3dsh33p> !hi | juank
[21:38] <mobi-sheep> MrKeuner: sudo aptitude purge <packageName>
[21:39] <guntbert> tego: you want nmap
[21:39] <MrKeuner> mobi-sheep, and what should I tyoe instead of  <packageName>?
 I had it set to log me in automaticly, but then suddenly the gdm login manager start to show up, and when I enter my name and passw Im being kinked back out again
[21:39] <xiong> Argh! Does this make any sense at all: http://bash.pastebin.com/d3180c60b
[21:39] <mobi-sheep> MrKeuner: The packages you installed after the basic Ubuntu installation.
[21:39] <morgan> hello all
[21:39] <MrKeuner> mobi-sheep, and what are those?
[21:39] <Deviouz> then I dont lnow what to do? I had to reinstall twice now
[21:40] <mobi-sheep> MrKeuner: I don't know. What did you install?
[21:40] <MrKeuner> mobi-sheep, you don't have to answer if you don't know the answer to a question
[21:40] <sharif> How I could be able to control bandwidth with Internet connection sharing In Ubuntu, Is this possible or there software to do that ??
[21:41] <mobi-sheep> !prayer | MrKeuner
[21:41] <guntbert> Deviouz: strange - I'd say try to change your password (from the recovery system) - then disable that auto login for a while and see what happens
[21:41] <Athar> So, on my home partition I have 1265 GB free and 1197 GB available. What's the difference between "free" and "available"?
[21:42] <xiong> MrKeuner, If you'll allow me: You're asking how to remove packages X..Z; mobi-sheep told you. Perhaps you want to ask, 'How do I find out which packages I installed?'
[21:42] <crazygir_> hiya, I'm trying to setup a new wacom tablet on 9.10.. I haven't really found any config help pertaining to 9.10 as it looks like 9.10 should just figure it all out. From what I can tell, it doesn't look like hal/the system is recognizing the tablet (or doens't have support built in). I have the wacom-tools and x11-input wacom pagackes installed but don't see the fdi configurations you would expect
[21:42] <Deviouz> yes, maybe, I keep wonder if gdm is some beta version because it looks like crap
[21:42] <crazygir_> any thoughts?
[21:42] <xiong> I still don't understand this: http://bash.pastebin.com/d3180c60b -- The uninstallation seems to be failing because I haven't uninstalled yet??
[21:42] <juank> Pelo, after doing that is some other thing that do I have to do?
[21:43] <andreas> will mal meine kamera testen
[21:43] <juank> about looking ntfs
[21:43] <guntbert> Deviouz: I'm pretty certain that you set something wrong somewhere
[21:43] <Pelo> juank, look in the menu , under application > system tools,  run that an it should add your windows partiton to /etc/fstab ,  reboot and you should see it
[21:43] <guntbert> !de | andreas
 how do I access the change password if I cant login first?
[21:44] <guntbert> Deviouz: step 1) try from the console - press <ctrl><alt>F2 - you get a login prompt - try to login there
[21:44] <shine1> hi all!   I tried to use vncviewer and remote desktop to remotely graphically control my ubuntu machine in the office from home,  it is really slow,  the communication is pretty good between two winXP machines, any one know to improve?
[21:45] <transtead> how do I register my nick again
thanks for the help
[21:45] <Pelo>  /msg nickserv register email password
[21:46] <guntbert> Deviouz: did that work? if not we are not finished yet :-)
[21:46] <transtead> and I type that right into the chat window?
[21:46] <pyrak> given that my new lenovo netbook has an atom processor, does this make netbook remix a better choice?
[21:46] <Pelo> afternoon folks  , anyone know anything about ssh keygen ? i'M having problems iwth mine it's no longer working
[21:46] <pyrak> or will support be the same with normal ubuntu?
[21:46] <niek33> does somebody know something about irssi irc client?
[21:46] <guntbert> transtead: better use some other window of your client
[21:46] <MrKeuner> xiong, oh I see, but wasn't that obvious :)
[21:46] <juank> now, I write a name for my partition but I can't apply the change, is there a format to set a name for it?
 Im not having that problem now, I already had to reinstall ubuntu, but atleast now I know what to do when it happends next time
[21:47] <legend2440> Athar: According to the System Monitor  Help   Free  amount of space not in use  Available   Amount of space which can be used   Still not very clear to me
[21:47] <peann> hey, have issues with sound on a new install of ubuntu, could somone help? it's a nvidia sound card, and it lists fine with asoundconf
[21:47] <guntbert> Deviouz: ok - have fun
[21:48] <Pelo> peann, try   sudo adduser audio ,  that was the problem with the install I did yesterday
[21:48] <peann> audio already exists
[21:48] <xiong> MrKeuner, The professor walked into the lecture hall and chalked a proposition in symbolic logic, saying, "Now, you'll agree that's obvious." Then he scratched his head a moment, rushed out of the room, and came back half an hour later, saying, "Yes, I was right; it *is* obvious."
[21:49] <mobi-sheep> MrKeuner: aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' -- It'll give you a list of installed packages. Compare that with ubuntu-desktop by "aptitude show ubuntu-desktop" -- Not everything *ought* to be purged because of dependencies.  Also, you could try "history | grep install" to see a partial list.
[21:49] <vm> !offtopic > xiong
[21:49] <Cappy> merry christmas everyone. =)
[21:49] <peann> i have configured it to use ALSA for playback - it tests fine, doesn't display an error - but just no sound.
[21:49] <juank> ubottu, Is there a format to set the name to my win partition?
[21:51] <peann> any ideas?
[21:51] <Cappy> got a fresh install of 9.10 and the video is quite laggy [dual core 1.6ghz, 1gb ram, radeon mobility 200m]
[21:51] <guntbert> !enter  peann
[21:51] <guntbert> !enter  | peann
[21:51] <xiong> vm, Actually, my comment was pretty much on-topic, I'd think. But what exactly is the point of contesting the issue? Take it up with MrKeuner, he has the issue.
[21:52] <niek33> does somebody know something about irssi irc client?
[21:52] <tritium> niek33: what about it?
[21:52] <Seeker`> I know something about it
[21:52] <niek33> I am new to irssi, i am running it on ubuntu server tritium
[21:52] <X-Sleepy-X> !enter | guntbert
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Cappy, check out the latest fglrx driver for your graphics card , you may need to install an open source driver
[21:52] <niek33> I want to know how i can turn the joined, left messages off
[21:52]  * X-Sleepy-X smiles
[21:52] <shingoki> Ok, so you know how the gtk guys decided to break a huge number of applications? Is there a way to set a system-wide "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1" so that I can fix everything at once rather than doing eclipse, azureus, flash, etc. one by one as I discover more weirdness?
[21:53] <niek33> tritium: it is very annoying:X
[21:53] <Cappy> BluesKaj, i can get the driver from synaptic
[21:53] <guntbert> X-Sleepy-X: my typing skills are *not* questionable - they are inferior
[21:53] <tritium> niek33: I find it quite useful, particularly in combination with ssh and screen.
[21:53] <X-Sleepy-X> guntbert: =)
[21:53] <niek33> tritium: the user has joined messages? i think they are very annouying
[21:53] <Zlobi1> Hello, I am trying to set up Icecast2 server + Ices2 with ALSA and player. All runs fine with ices-playlist.xml, no sound with ices-alsa, installed soma alsa packages, please help
[21:54] <niek33> tritium: it should be possible to turn them off
[21:54] <P1R11> My usb drive is not showing anymore, I have important files there..Is anyone able to help me?
[21:54] <juank> is there someone that help me to set a name for my win partition, it seems that it needs a specific format, Im new using linux, then I dont know how to do it!! please help
[21:55] <shawn_> X-Sleepy-X, I got it working
[21:55] <BluesKaj> Cappy, make sure you remove the old driver first
[21:55] <Zlobi1> P1R11: Try Disk Mounter, if on Gnome
[21:55] <tritium> niek33: yes
[21:55] <Zlobi1> if it is not just a gui, might help
[21:55] <s3ns3s> ...
[21:55] <mobi-sheep> niek33: You can find Irssi documentation at http://irssi.org/
[21:56] <Zlobi1> juank: install win, then liux, it is all fine
[21:56] <X-Sleepy-X> shawn_: That's great! Could you please post me a private message explaining how to do it so I can let others know?
[21:56] <Zlobi1> win needs ntfs file system
[21:56] <vap0r> im trying to install a plugin for pidgin, but i have to compile it. im in the directory i unpacked the archive into and i typed "make" and pressed enter but it just gave me a bunch of error messages. what am I doing wrong?
[21:56] <transtead> i'm a noob from the MS world: how do I force close a window that's stuck. I've attempted to close it several times using the gui button and ALT+F4.  In the other op systm, I would use ctrl+alt+delete, choose the process or app and push delete.  Is there something similar in Ubuntu?
[21:56] <juank> I got a virus in win and I reinstalled it again and the virus still there
[21:56] <guntbert> !compile | vap0r
[21:56] <juank> then I decided to not use win anymore
[21:57] <s3ns3s> someONE nows free shell for Undernet * ?
[21:57] <martijn_> hi, i have installed daisy under opensuse, but i cannot get the panel on bottum there, see this=> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 do you have any idea how to fix this?
[21:57] <Zlobi1> vapOr: sudo ./configure first
[21:57] <guntbert> vap0r: usually there is a README
[21:57] <mobi-sheep> transtead: xkill and click on the window.
[21:57] <juank> just that I need to look for my files
[21:57] <juank> in windows
[21:57] <juank> partition
[21:57] <vap0r> guntbert: im following the directions as laid out EXACTLY in the readme
[21:57] <Hydrosis> transtead: add the "Force Quite" app to a pannel.  Right click the panel and Add to Panel
[21:57] <transtead> "xkill" in console?
[21:57] <guntbert> Zlobi1: configure should need no sudo
[21:57] <mobi-sheep> transtead: Yes.
[21:57] <Hydrosis> killall in console transtead
[21:57] <Zlobi1> juank: Linux reads NTFS (win) fine
[21:57] <xiong> Okay, it all seems to boil down to this: libxml-sax-perl is corrupted in some way; libxml-sax-perl is required for apt-get to work properly; therefore apt-get cannot be used to remove the corrupt libxml-sax-perl or to reinstall it. What now?
[21:58] <tritium> niek33: http://clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[21:58] <chazco> Hi.. how can I record the sound from another application?
[21:58] <transtead> "killall" won't kill this chat??
[21:58] <Zlobi1> guntbert: yes, but does not hurt :P
[21:58] <Hydrosis> juank: all win partitiosn are visible in Ubuntu by default for me
[21:58] <guntbert> vap0r: then the author probably made a mistake, did you run ./configure ?
[21:58] <Hydrosis> chazco, run line-in to headphone and hit record.
[21:58] <juank> yes I know, but I need a name to my win partition, I cant set it
[21:59] <Zlobi1> vapOr: or it is wrong architecture
[21:59] <tritium> niek33: also, you can type "/help ignore" for more info
[21:59] <juank> I dont know why... is there a format to do it
[21:59] <guntbert> Zlobi1: could hurt - always assume only as little priviledges as possible
[21:59] <juank> ???
[21:59] <Hydrosis> juank, your win partiton should have a default name.
[21:59] <vap0r> guntbert: what is ./configure for?
[21:59] <chazco> Hydrosis - Looking for a more software based approach, but that idea seems to be the only one likely to work...
[22:00] <juank> the "apply" button doesn't let me set the name
[22:00] <vap0r> it says no such directory for that command. whatever that was for.
[22:00] <guntbert> vap0r: *if* there is a configure file it sets up the compilation environment and creates the make file
[22:00] <juank> Im ignorant with linux
[22:00] <Hydrosis> juank, we all were at one time.
[22:00] <transtead> oooo... "xkill" is nice!!:-D
[22:00] <Zlobi1> guntbert: sidenote - I have passed thru a living hell thanks to sudo and I am tired of typing the pass each time and I know you insist on such security practice, so I run the shortest way :P
[22:00] <vap0r> guntbert: Note: in the readme it says: "This is a source distribution and requires a working compiler toolchain."
[22:00] <Hydrosis> xkill is not the same as killall or pkill, though.
[22:01] <mobi-sheep> transtead: :-)
[22:01] <xiong> This is *really* bad. All sorts of things use XML and some, apparently, use the libxml-sax-perl parser. Therefore all of these things are broken.
[22:01] <mobi-sheep> transtead: You could add "Force Quit" applet in GNOME Panel too.
[22:01] <Hydrosis> mobi-sheep: I use that app, it's a MUST HAVE on linux machines since everything always crashes or freezes for no apparent reason.
[22:01] <xiong> transtead, Thumbs up on the 'Force Quit' panel applet.
[22:01] <transtead> mobi-sheep: the linux learning curve is steep... but worth it, I can see already
[22:02] <juank> then is there a format that let me set the name for the partition? it says... /dev/sda5 <set mount point> I dont know what wirte in that space
[22:02] <Hydrosis> transtead: you'll learn so much about computers that you'll be the computer guy where you go.  Get ready for countless hours fixing relative's computers.
[22:02] <guntbert> ! info build-essential | vap0r
[22:02] <guntbert> !info build-essential | vap0r
[22:03] <guntbert> vap0r: install that
[22:03] <Alacard> Anyone have any experience running UNR on an Aspire One?
[22:03] <pppoe_dude> hello, i have a bit of a strange question. i am trying to log in to my router, but i can't remember the IP address of it! i have 2 routers one is a wireless one the other a wired one and the wired one is the one that provides the DHCP server, wireless one is kind of transparent. How can I find out the IP address of the wireless one? 'mtr' doesn't give it to me
[22:03] <Zlobi1> juank: partition name shouldn't affect readability, like you can be called Peter or Harry or Bill, but you will be the same man
[22:03] <Jerkman> oh hai, if anyone here has an ipod mini 6GB 2generation, please reply
[22:03] <Hydrosis> pppoe_dude go go google and search "What is my IP address" or you could also search "localhost IP address"
[22:03] <pppoe_dude> oops. wrong channel!
[22:04] <Zlobi1> Partition format (structure) is what matters, and the way to fix if broken
[22:04] <mobi-sheep> !anyone | Alacard
[22:04] <guntbert> !google | Hydrosis
[22:04] <Alacard> I have a question about running UNR on an Acer Aspire One
[22:04] <juank> haha, this fuck ting, I write everything and doesn't allow set the name or mount point
[22:04] <vap0r> guntbert: the "build-essential" package doesn't exist
[22:04] <Datz> Hi, I manually installed my nvidia driver, but it still isn't reconized
[22:04] <Hydrosis> I know, I know, but that's easier that me googleing a URL for him
[22:04] <tritium> !ohmy | juank
[22:04] <Hydrosis> than*
[22:04] <Datz>  can someone help me with this?
[22:05] <pppoe_dude> Hydrosis, that doesn't really answer my question
[22:05] <juank> mmm, sorry
[22:05] <P1R11> Zlobi1: I try to mount it, but I cant. I do get this message when I plug it in "[sda] Assuming drive cache: write through"
[22:05] <pppoe_dude> Hydrosis, it's a local IP address i am looking for
[22:05] <juank> I didn't want to ofend anybody
[22:05] <guntbert> vap0r: what version of ubuntu?
[22:06] <vap0r> guntbert: the latest and greatest
[22:06] <tritium> juank: no problem
[22:06] <Zlobi1> p1R11: Was it badly removed in win, w/o safe remove?
[22:06] <vap0r> guntbert: karmic
[22:06] <juank> just that I never tried it before, always were win
[22:06] <juank> was*
[22:06] <Hydrosis> pppoe_dude: $ ip rout show
[22:07] <adac> Is there a power save option that disables compiz automatically when I'm running on battery?
[22:07] <Zlobi1> juank: Easy, I was like you, 9 years of win, now I am almost having fun :)
[22:07] <fanti> hm ubuntu disables the root account by default ?
[22:07] <P1R11> Zlobi1: Its possible
[22:07] <guntbert> vap0r: type sudo aptitude update (to update the database), then sudo aptitude install build-essential
[22:07] <adac> If not, wouldn't that make sense?
[22:07] <deserteagle> Merry Christmas!
[22:07] <P1R11> Zlobi1: Please tell me that I can recover the data...Its really important
[22:07] <bastid_raZor> fanti: yes, you are correct
[22:07] <deserteagle> question: how can I enable automatic login via command line? thanks!
[22:07] <Zlobi1> P1R11: Either finda win PC and safe remove or check for a forcr mount command in google
[22:07] <bastid_raZor> !root | fanti
[22:08] <Spaniel> doez anyone know why the cube in Compiz fusion is opening as a wall instead of a cube
[22:08] <P1R11> Zolbi1: Will do. Thanks
[22:08] <Datz> could someone help me with xorg.conf?
[22:08] <mobi-sheep> adac: I would imagine it is possible. You'd have to look for the script and add that to the command. I'd suggest for you to write your own script, that way, you can add/remove more than just compiz.
[22:08] <bastid_raZor> Spaniel: possibly #compiz will have faster more accurate answers.
[22:09] <Zlobi1> Hello, I am trying to set up Icecast2 server + Ices2 with ALSA and player. All runs fine with ices-playlist.xml, no sound with ices-alsa, installed soma alsa packages, please help
[22:10] <vap0r> guntbert: whoops I already had it installed, but for new trouble, for some mystical reason the package appears in synaptic when i type the first 5 letters, then disappears when i type the hyphen. I love ubuntu.
[22:10] <Zlobi1> Hello, I am trying to set up Icecast2 server + Ices2 with ALSA and player. All runs fine with ices-playlist.xml, no sound with ices-alsa, installed some alsa packages, Google not good in this case, please help
[22:10] <Cappy> reading the forums support for radeon 200m was dropped in march 09, and that i should be using the opensource drivers, is that what would have been installed by default with karmic?
[22:10] <Guest30044> can someoen help me enable my wireless it does not recognize on this laptop
[22:10] <Zlobi1> guntbert: It is auto-complete
[22:11] <vap0r> Zlobi1: did you mean vap0r ?
[22:11] <MrKeuner> mobi-sheep, sorry if i offended you, thought you were kidding with me
[22:11] <skitzo> hey you guys
[22:11] <transtead> how do I setup specific applications to startup upon login e.g. Pidgin, Gmail notif, etc...)?
[22:11] <guntbert> vap0r: I think its time to !paste the output of your make attempt
[22:11] <kowalski> hi! ;D
[22:12] <Zlobi1> Guest30044: Update kernels or network part of them, be careful
[22:12] <soreau> Spaniel: You need to go into gnome-appearance-properties and set Extra or Custom in the Visual Effects tab. Or if you have ccsm installed, enable Rotate Cube and it will disable Wall
[22:12] <bastid_raZor> !startup | transtead
[22:12] <mobi-sheep> MrKeuner: It is okay. If you have anything else you want to follow up on, feel free to ask away. :-)
[22:12] <Guest30044> Zlobil how do i update/
[22:12] <Zlobi1> Yes vapOr, sry
[22:12] <adac> mobi-sheep, guess it wouldn't be that hard to write. But in my opinion this 'script' should be added to the powersave options
[22:13] <Zlobi1> Guest30044: Well, sudo apt-get update
[22:13] <skitzo> um.. i've been trying to completely hide my windows filesystem from ubuntu for awhile now with no look however i found something online in one of the forums that actually works however im a newb with all this code stuff so if somebody could have a quick look and give us a quick guide i would really appreciate it..
[22:13] <Zlobi1> Guest30044: Well, sudo aptitude update
[22:13] <skitzo> *luck
[22:13] <Zlobi1> Guest30044: Then start the GUI updater
[22:14] <skitzo> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8482719
[22:14] <vap0r> guntbert: http://pastebin.org/68700
[22:14] <Guest30044> Zlobil, i did sudo apt-get update already what GUI updater are you talking about?
[22:14] <ssv1994> hello, does adobe flash player include mp3 and mpeg codecs?
[22:14] <mobi-sheep> adac: You can request for it on Ubuntu Brainstorm. I recall somebody requesting the power manager to have "Do Nothing" feature too.  Also, to disable compiz to shave few minutes off? While you're at it, two gnome-panels is using more processes than one gnome-panel. You get the idea.
[22:15] <Cappy> ssv1994, you need ubuntu-restircted-extras to fill in those gaps
[22:15] <grawity> mobi-sheep: Compiz does a lot of GFX stuff; two gnome-panels means nothing, they probably even share libraries.
[22:15] <guntbert> vap0r: I assume you *have* pidgin installed?
[22:15] <vap0r> guntbert: yes
[22:15] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:16] <ssv1994> oh, I've just downloaded the player from the adobe web site and installed it, does it install mp3 or mpeg codecs?
[22:16] <skitzo> anybody?
[22:16] <Guest30044> Zlobil, i did sudo apt-get update already what GUI updater are you talking about?
[22:16] <adac> mobi-sheep, sorry don't understand the last gnome-panel part.
[22:16] <Cappy> ssv1994, not that im aware of, try doing "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" to fill int he codec gaps.
[22:17] <ssv1994> ok
[22:17] <fanti> hm when having the root account disabled, why is there still a directory /root ?
[22:17] <guntbert> vap0r: I'm not certain but it could be that the author assumed you have pidgin complied from source too - I really suggest to ask the author
[22:17] <fanti> is it safe to remove /root ?
[22:17] <linuxghost> does someone knows how to install AR5523 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 Firmware????
[22:17] <guntbert> *compiled
[22:17] <grawity> fanti: The root account still exists. It always exists. And it has a home directory.
[22:17] <gdb> fanti: The root account isn't disabled, it's locked.  You can become root whenever you like and root's home directory is /root.
[22:18] <grawity> fanti: It's just that it has no password, so is locked out... But even when you use 'sudo', you access it.
[22:18] <vap0r> guntbert: ok thanks
[22:18] <fanti> thanks
[22:18] <guntbert> vap0r: Good luck :-)
[22:18] <grawity> fanti: In other words, better to keep it.
[22:18] <resno1> guntbert: the restore got it working. but now i cant use the trackpad and sound is not working
[22:18] <linuxghost> does someone knows how to install AR5523 firmware  0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 Firmware????
[22:18] <P1R11> Zlobi1: I did it, when to windows, unistall and install de usb drive, detected, and it shows now, but if I try to access it, it said that it doesnt have a format, and that I should format it....Is there anything I can do beside formating the usb drive
[22:18] <mobi-sheep> adac: Do you use htop? There are a list of processes that you probably does not need to have it running such as gnome-screensaver. I have that package uninstalled.
[22:18] <vap0r> guntbert: thanks
[22:19] <skitzo> :|
[22:19] <adac> mobi-sheep, I see now!
[22:19] <guntbert> resno1: please state you problem to the channel again - there are a lot newcomers
[22:20] <resno1> guntbert: ok, will do :)
[22:20] <Cappy> are the radeon open source drivers used by the default install of karmic? or do i need to install them seperatly
[22:20] <linuxghost> carlos td bem?
[22:20] <linuxghost> does someone knows how to install AR5523 firmware  0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 Firmware????
[22:20] <resno1> so, i recently updated from 9.04 to 9.10. after completing the update, my touchpad and sound stop working. when i try to run an update, my screen goes black and starts flashing random letters.
[22:21] <Guest26440> epale no hablan español
[22:21] <tritium> Cappy: open source.  You'd have to use the restricted-drivers-manager to install the fglrx drivers.
[22:21] <tritium> !es | Guest26440
[22:21] <resno1> !es Guest26440
[22:21] <fatface> how do i get rid of this gpg error that pops up in synaptic?
[22:21] <fanti> hmm another question (sorry i'm new to ubuntu). at installation time, i'm ask if my home directory should be encrypted or not. can somebody tell what kind of encryption is used for my home (which algorithm and key-length), and is it possible to open another's encrypted  home directory  when having the password? e.g. to copy something as root from a user's home directory.
[22:21] <resno1> sound and pad worked prior to update
[22:22] <adac> mobi-sheep, Do you think disabling compiz while I'm on battery really would save me only a very few minutes?
[22:22] <Datz> hi, is anyone around to help me with my graphics driver?
[22:22] <tritium> fanti: the user decrypts his home directory upon login.  Not even root can do this without the user's password.
[22:22] <Cappy> tritium, i was reading the forums and see that support for mobility 200m was dropped in mid 2009.
[22:23] <mobi-sheep> adac: I don't know. I like having compiz running. You would have to do a trial run. :)
[22:23] <tritium> Cappy: could be, I don't know
[22:23] <fanti> tritium: yeah, but if root has the password (e.g. for a data recovery scenario)
[22:23] <shawn__> X-Sleepy-X, Yep it did it again
[22:24] <X-Sleepy-X> shawn__:
[22:24] <X-Sleepy-X> shawn__: ok
[22:24] <resno1> i recently updated from 9.04 to 9.10. after completing the update, my touchpad and sound stop working. when i try to run an update, my screen goes black and starts flashing random letters.  Touchpad and sound worked prior. Is there any way to fix?
[22:24] <sharif> Is ubuntu have shorewall ?
[22:25] <fata_erro> why doesn't my sudo password not work
[22:25] <mobi-sheep> adac: Have you thought about buying extended battery cells? I have one for my netbook. I don't really know its battery life but I have seen "10 hours" and I don't know if I want to believe that. :o
[22:25] <adac> mobi-sheep, :) Well maybe it would not bad to have an "advanced" power management. Mean not only compiz to control with but multiple apps and services or gnome-panels
[22:25] <resno1> fata_erro: what are you trying to do? in some cases the sudo doesnt pass to another application
[22:25] <fata_erro> i'm typingg my root password
[22:25] <tritium> fata_erro: if you can login, it works.  it's your user password
[22:25] <guntbert> fata_erro: how are you trying to use sudo?
[22:25] <adac> mobi-sheep, nah I'm fine with my 8 hours ;) was just an idea :)
[22:25] <guntbert> !root
[22:26] <guntbert> !noroot | fata_erro
[22:26] <fata_erro> lol
[22:26] <jillsmitt> hi, what software can create backup of my system on CD (DVD)?
[22:26] <fata_erro> i'm on linode
[22:27] <skitzo> um.. i've been trying to completely hide my windows filesystem from ubuntu for awhile now with no look however i found something online in one of the forums that actually works however im a newb with all this code stuff so if somebody could have a quick look and give us a quick guide i would really appreciate it..
[22:27] <P1R11> Zlobi1: I did it, I went to windows, uninstall and install de usb drive. Windows detected it, and it shows now in MyPC, but if I try to access it, it said that it doesnt have a format, and that I should format it....Is there anything I can do beside formating the usb drive
[22:27] <skitzo> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8482719
[22:27] <discopatrick> seasons greetings everyone. with ufw, how do i create a rule such as "allow 22 from 192.168.1.2"
[22:27] <fata_erro> they gave me a root password
[22:27] <resno1> fata_erro: who is they?
[22:27] <guntbert> fata_erro: if you are on ubuntu you don't need one
[22:27] <Zlobi1> P1R11: Yes, there was a wonderful Linux respore program, which name I forgot
[22:28] <legend2440> jillsmitt: http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/remastersystool.html
[22:28] <mobi-sheep> adac: It is easier to write a script.  There are only few parameters. That way, you could do "metacity --replace, killall <processes>, that's about it."  Eventually, you might realized you don't really need few processes in first place and started to weed them out.
[22:28] <fata_erro> linode people
[22:28] <P1R11> Zlobi1: Could it be Photorec?
[22:28] <Zlobi1> P1R11: Was running in 80*30 window
[22:28] <iceroot> discopatrick: man ufw   that example is in that manpage
[22:28] <Zlobi1> P1R11: No
[22:28] <fata_erro> well i can't sudo with any password
[22:29] <discopatrick> iceroot:  thanks, keep forgetting about manpages, ubuntu noob here
[22:29] <discopatrick> (linux noob)
[22:29] <fata_erro> period
[22:29] <iceroot> discopatrick: np
[22:29] <Xodiac13> i need help on installing ubuntu 8.04 server with no monitor I am planning on using it for file sharing is there anyway to do this i googled it and i didnt really find an answer
[22:29] <guntbert> fata_erro: are you sure that you are running ubuntu?
[22:29] <fata_erro> yes
[22:29] <jillsmitt> legend2440, thanks
[22:29] <henrique_> hey, i need some help to install nvidia drivers
[22:29] <legend2440> jillsmitt: your welcome
[22:29] <adac> mobi-sheep, Sure one should start with erasing programs or services that are not needed.
[22:30] <iceroot> fata_erro: is your user allowed to use sudo? is it the user you created at installation?
[22:30] <Datz> Is anyone familiar with graphics drivers and support?
[22:30] <Xodiac13> is there anyway to install a headless machine with ubuntu 8.04 server
[22:30] <iceroot> !nvidia | henrique_
[22:30] <fata_erro> i did adduser in root
[22:30] <iceroot> fata_erro: you did what?
[22:30] <fata_erro> you heard me :P
[22:31] <iceroot> fata_erro: you dont want to add the user to root, you want to add the user to admin
[22:31] <Zlobi1> P1R11: While I was trying different linux distros, Fedora did similar stuff to mine 1TB internal drive
[22:31] <adac> mobi-sheep, script is fine. It is just: power managemnt already has t check if I'm on battery or not, so it would be nice if compiz switcher could work on top of that acpi or however it is called
[22:31] <iceroot> fata_erro: i heard you but i dont understand what you have done
[22:31] <iceroot> fata_erro: or better, why
[22:31] <krezlyn> hey i have a question, i have a external hdd that is NTFS, i know i can mount and read data on it, i just did it on a laptop, but i plugged the external to my Main pc, (desktop) and it says it has a problem mounting it and gives me a big error message, anyone able to help?
[22:31] <Zlobi1> P1R11: The program fixed all, it is available with apt-get, but I forgot the name :(
[22:31] <skitzo> oh well i give up lol
[22:31] <fata_erro> so how do i changee the user to admin
[22:32] <skitzo> i cant do it
[22:32] <iceroot> krezlyn: post the error to pastebin
[22:32] <iceroot> !paste | krezlyn
[22:32] <P1R11> Zlobi1: The problem is that I was backing up a PC, but I was moving, not copying the files, so now I will lose them
[22:32] <Zlobi1> P1R11: Was starting with a ? about type of machine, ~ 10 choices
[22:32] <iceroot> fata_erro: adduser theusername admin
[22:32] <krezlyn> nvm i disconnected and reconnected the drive and it worked
[22:32] <Xodiac13> is there anyway to install a headless machine with ubuntu 8.04 server
[22:32] <Zlobi1> P1R11: That's why you copy first, then delete the orig
[22:33] <P1R11> Zlobi1: I learn that the hard way
[22:33] <fata_erro> iceroot: how do change an existing users group
[22:33] <bastid_raZor> Xodiac13: possibly ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:33] <Zlobi1> P1R11: Me too, but I share my mistakes :)
[22:33] <Xodiac13> thz
[22:34] <iceroot> Xodiac13: you cant install without a monitor but you can run it later without a monitor
[22:34] <mobi-sheep> adac: http://projects.gnome.org/gnome-power-manager/ + http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScreensaver/ -- You might have some luck finding out how to run scripts after certain events.
[22:34] <linuxghost> ghost@ghost-laptop:~$ lsusb
[22:34] <linuxghost> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:011d Hewlett-Packard Integrated Bluetooth Module
[22:34] <linuxghost> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[22:34] <linuxghost> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[22:34] <linuxghost> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[22:34] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:34] <FloodBot2> linuxghost: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <Zlobi1> P1R11: check http://linux.software.informer.com/download-linux-fix-disk-utility/
[22:35] <zaphira13> Hello guys! MArry Cristmas :D
[22:36] <adac> mobi-sheep, kk
[22:36] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:36] <kraitos> i'm trying to get an animated desktop wallpaper, has anyone heard of any good ones?
[22:37] <Zlobi1> Hello zaphira13
[22:37] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:37] <jcape> Does anyone have any experience with Karmic on the higher-end Dell Adorno?
[22:37] <guntbert> linuxghost: use !pastebin please
[22:38] <johnthompson> hi
[22:38] <johnthompson> what do i need for tcp wrappers support in vsftpd on ubuntu
[22:38] <Demo> Can I backup somehow my previous partition table if i messed up something with fdisk?
[22:38] <fata_erro> what do do if group admin does not exist?
[22:39] <bastid_raZor> fata_erro: then you are not using ubuntu.
[22:39] <fata_erro> how can i create it
[22:39] <fata_erro> yes
[22:39] <fata_erro> no
[22:39] <fata_erro> i am
[22:39] <fata_erro> 9.10
[22:39] <bastid_raZor> fata_erro: lsb_release -a ..pastebin the entire output
[22:39] <Demo> Can i?
[22:41] <kraitos> anyone now of any good animated desktop wallpapers?
[22:41] <fata_erro> No LSB modules are available.
[22:41] <fata_erro> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[22:41] <fata_erro> Description:    Ubuntu 9.10
[22:41] <fata_erro> Release:        9.10
[22:41] <fata_erro> Codename:       karmic
[22:41] <FloodBot2> fata_erro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:41] <Xodiac13> i need help on installing ubuntu 9.10 on a headless machine i already went to #ubuntu-server and no one is answering
[22:41] <guntbert> !patience | Xodiac13
[22:42] <thinktyler> the new XBMC rocks on ubuntu
[22:42] <fata_erro> so any ideas?
[22:42] <Demo> Is it impossible?
[22:42] <Xodiac13> guntbert: a no would be nice but i guess no one realy knows how to speach english in that chat room
[22:42] <fata_erro> i'm on a vps
[22:43] <henrique_> i've installed nvidia drivers, but my resolution is 640x480. how can i change it? i cant do it from x server settings
[22:43] <guntbert> Xodiac13: the general rule here: who has an answer tells it - who has not stays quiet
[22:43] <thinktyler> xorg.conf
[22:44] <ghost> Installing Debian.
[22:44] <thinktyler> where can I go to just talk about ubuntu and not for t. support per say? ...
[22:44] <Guest17127> I need the LXE or XFCE Desktop environment.
[22:44] <Xodiac13> guntbert: o okay sorry but just to ask is it possible and if there is can you send me to right website to get some help i already tried googling and theres no real answer
[22:44] <Guest17127> How do I go about all that..
[22:44] <guntbert> !ot | thinktyler
[22:45] <thinktyler> thanks
[22:46] <guntbert> Xodiac13: I have no answer too and you obviously didn't like the one you got here ^^^
[22:46] <rahduke> i recently installed Winrar thru Wine in Karmic, now that I've uninstalled Winrar Ubuntu still shows rar files with the winrar logo and tries to look for Winrar when opening them. How can i stop this?
[22:46] <rahduke> its drivin me nuts
[22:46] <bastid_raZor> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html  Xodiac13 .. possibly?
[22:46] <iceroot> Xodiac13: i told you that you cant to it without a monitor
[22:47] <Xodiac13> iceroot: o okay sorry didnt see it
[22:47] <iceroot> Xodiac13: put the hdd in another pc, install ubuntu there and then put back the hdd
[22:47] <P1R11> Zlobi1: Finally I format it hoping for the best. Now I am trying to recover as much data as possible with photorec :(
[22:47] <iceroot> Xodiac13: but you need a monitor on that pc you are installing it
[22:47] <zaphira13> Guys i have a big problem, When i am sending files from pidgin the go really slow but in windows with msn they are really fast...why??? What can i do??
[22:47] <rahduke> my question is more important, you guys should help me
[22:47] <Xodiac13> iceroot: i would have to get a case for it dangit
[22:47] <guntbert> !attitude | rahduke
[22:48] <bastid_raZor> rahduke: right click a .rar and edit the properties.
[22:48] <rahduke> guntbert: i didnt get what i wanted for xmas, im in a bad mood ;)
[22:48] <iceroot> rahduke: you are using winrar with wine? ok i help you. dont do such crazy things
[22:48] <q0_0p> how do i gzip a tar
[22:48] <linuxghost> m
[22:48] <linuxghost> m
[22:48] <q0_0p> without having to tar first
[22:48] <Xodiac13> bastid_raZor: hey you can help me by going to www.fuckyourself.com, .org. or .net
[22:48] <rahduke> bastid_raZor: the problem is that rar files are named like .r01 .r02 etc etc
[22:49] <rahduke> there are hundreds of possible file names
[22:49] <fata_erro> root@localhost:/home/paul# adduser rails admin
[22:49] <fata_erro> adduser: The user `rails' does not exist.
[22:49] <bastid_raZor> Xodiac13: nice.
[22:49] <rahduke> and even if i do change them by hand
[22:49] <q0_0p> tar czvf backup.tar.gz | gzip -c > file.gz?
[22:49] <rahduke> the Winrar icon still shows up
[22:49] <Xodiac13> bastid_raZor: yup i try
[22:49] <fatface> i removed all my apt servers and keyservers, now i added deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu but dont know how to get the authenticate part for  it to work, whats the command for it?
[22:49] <fata_erro> what could be happening
[22:49] <iceroot> fata_erro: there is no user called rails
[22:49] <fata_erro> but i said add
[22:50] <fata_erro> adduser
[22:50] <iceroot> fata_erro: man adduser
[22:50] <rahduke> I just want to know how to make gnome or nautilus or whatever is controlling rar files to completely forget about Winrar
[22:50] <fata_erro> i did
[22:50] <rahduke> there are no options in gconf editor or in nautilus config
[22:50] <iceroot> fata_erro: adduser username group   is putting an existing user in a group
[22:50] <fata_erro> oh
[22:51] <iceroot> fata_erro: man adduser
[22:51] <rahduke> anyone use smplayer with vdpau?
[22:51] <iceroot> fata_erro: you want something like     adduser rails   to create that user
[22:51] <iceroot> !anyone | rahduke
[22:51] <fata_erro> root@localhost:/home/paul# adduser paul admin
[22:51] <fata_erro> adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[22:51] <fata_erro> i swear its ubuntu
[22:52] <fata_erro> but there is no admin group
[22:52] <rahduke> u guys are too strict
[22:52] <fata_erro> why
[22:52] <rahduke> i was just making conversation
[22:52] <iceroot> rahduke: no
[22:52] <guntbert> !ot | rahduke
[22:52] <Zeonisis> Are there any good text adventures for ubuntu?
[22:52] <iceroot> rahduke: this is a support-channel
[22:52] <fata_erro> i'm on a vps
[22:52] <jpds> fata_erro: addgroup admin
[22:52] <fata_erro> ok
[22:53] <pandashome> where are you all from?
[22:53] <jpds> !ot | pandashome
[22:53] <bastid_raZor> jpds: that isn't going to give the admin group the proper permissions needed to be of any use.
[22:53] <Zeonisis> Are there any good text adventures for ubuntu?
[22:53] <jpds> bastid_raZor: But that's just simply editing with visudo.
[22:53] <linuxghost> bash: debian/patches/kcompat-2.6.26: No such file or directory
[22:53] <zaphira13> Zlobi1: Hi :)
[22:54] <krezlyn> when i try to play a movie in mplayer i get error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[22:54] <bastid_raZor> jpds: if he were on ubuntu he wouldn't need to add admin.
[22:54] <valio> Hi
[22:54] <fata_erro> jpds sudo still won't work
[22:54] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:54] <valio> I want to ask you how can I convert a partition from slave to primary
[22:54] <iceroot> fata_erro: lsb_release -a   is telling what?
[22:54] <linuxghost> help
[22:54] <Zeonisis> Are there any good text adventures for ubuntu?Besides nethack?
[22:54] <iceroot> !repeat | Zeonisis
[22:54] <fata_erro> i already pasted it
[22:54] <jpds> fata_erro: do: visudo, and add: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[22:55] <Zeonisis> Are there any good text adventures for ubuntu?Besides nethack?
[22:55] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:55] <iceroot> Zeonisis: stop that
[22:55] <valio> or how can I "move" the extended attribute
[22:55] <Zeonisis> How do I use ubottu?
[22:55] <jpds> bastid_raZor: I had to do the same thing on my Linode VPS, and it's running Ubuntu.
[22:55] <iceroot> !bot | Zeonisis
[22:55] <Zeonisis> !ot |zeonisis
[22:55] <bastid_raZor> jpds: from what he has said he too is on a vps.
[22:55] <jpds> bastid_raZor: Yep.
[22:55] <linuxghost> help
[22:55] <thiebaude> Zeonisis, if you read above you'll figure it out
[22:56] <Zeonisis> Thanks
[22:56] <ctmjr> krezlyn: try to change the video output in preferences to xv
[22:57] <linuxghost> teach me how to install firmware Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:57] <fata_erro> jpds: thank you
[22:57] <linuxghost> teach me how to install firmware. Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[22:57] <jpds> fata_erro: No problem.
[22:57] <krezlyn> Thank you
[22:58] <ctmjr> linuxghost: find the firmware google should help you then place it in /lib/firmware directory
[22:58] <linuxghost> m
[22:58] <morgan> hello again, people. i need some help wit this: i ve installed ubuntu 9.4 and then it updated to 9.10. how do i make it use the swap partition that i made before installation?
[22:59] <Khalil> morgan: it should be using it automatically
[23:00] <bastid_raZor> morgan: sudo swapon /dev/sdwhatever the partition is
[23:00] <morgan> Khalil: system monitor shows 0% of swap usage
[23:01] <morgan> always
[23:01] <bastid_raZor> morgan: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq  for how to add it to your /etc/fstab so it is mounted on boot
[23:01] <morgan> ok, thanks. i m gonna check itout
[23:02] <fata_erro> jpds: is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[23:02] <gbear14275> anyone able to get garmin nuvi registration completed on ubuntu?
[23:02] <fata_erro> what does that mean
[23:02] <gbear14275> I'm trying wine now... don't want to have to use windows vm
[23:03] <jpds> fata_erro: Did you add the user to the admin group?
[23:03] <fata_erro> yes
[23:04] <Pericius> what am i supposed to do if some buttons on my laptop under ubuntu don't do a thing?
[23:04] <fata_erro> # User privilege specification
[23:04] <fata_erro> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[23:04] <fata_erro> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[23:04] <fata_erro> jpds is that correct
[23:05] <queso> What's the easiest way to transfer data from my old powerbook to my new ubuntu machine?  Should I use ftp or something?
[23:05] <jpds> fata_erro: Yes, that's strange...
[23:05] <mobi-sheep> queso: If you're familiar with ftp, then filezilla, perhaps.
[23:06] <mneptok> queso: rsync
[23:06] <krezlyn> i have a second hard-drive mounted to my pc /media/storage
[23:06] <fata_erro> jpds: restart?
[23:06] <krezlyn> how can i make a link in /home/username/ to open as /media/storage
[23:06] <queso> mneptok: is rsync easy to use?
[23:06] <jpds> fata_erro: Ah, you might have to rejoin in as the user.
[23:06] <krezlyn> for example, /home/username/storage is really /media/storage
[23:07] <mneptok> fata_erro: if you type "groups <username>" what does it say?
[23:07] <bastid_raZor> krezlyn: while in /home/username type ln -s /media/storage storage
[23:07] <ai9371> anyone have any experience setting up linsys wireless g pci network car
[23:07] <fata_erro> root@localhost:/home/paul# groups paul
[23:07] <fata_erro> paul : paul admin
[23:07] <ai9371> im trying to set it up without ndiswrapper
[23:07] <mneptok> queso: rsync -avh -e ssh --stats username@powerbook.ip:/Users/username/ ~/from_powerbook/
[23:07] <jpds> fata_erro: relogin I mean.
[23:08] <fata_erro> ok
[23:08] <graelb> Hi folks, is there a way to have ubuntu auto-resolve windows hostnames, so i can use it in ping for example?
[23:08] <krezlyn> bastid_raZor, also, i am very new to linux, my second hdd, i can never access it untill i type in my sudo password the first time i attempt to open the directory listing, i was told to put a line into my fstab but it still doesnt auto mount/access any idea's?
[23:09] <Pericius> can i map a laptop button to something?
[23:09] <Slart> graelb: perhaps samba can do that.. I'm not sure
[23:09] <queso> mneptok: awesome, thank you for your help :)
[23:09] <bastid_raZor> !ntfs | krezlyn follow this guide on how to add it to fstab
[23:09] <krezlyn> its not ntfs
[23:09] <krezlyn> my second hdd is ext3
[23:10] <graelb> Slart, hmm... Or even maybe putting an entry into my local routing table, since i know the static ip addresses?
[23:10] <Cappy> folks, ive installed envyng as per instructions i found on the ubutnu forums for installing the ati drivers, and its telling me there is no compatible drivers
[23:10] <mneptok> krezlyn: sudo chown -R your_username:your_username /media/storage
[23:10] <bastid_raZor> !fstab | krezlyn : use this page for  a howto on adding partitons to fstab
[23:10] <r0k3tm3n> i am looking to setup VirtualBox to attach the virtual machines to the local network, so i can ssh in to the vm, anyone had any success with this?
[23:10] <fata_erro> jdps:awesome works
[23:10] <bislo> hi to all
[23:10] <Slart> graelb: of course.. that would work too.. you could setup your local dns server too.. lots of options if you don't mind doing the work
[23:10] <krezlyn> thank you mneptok
[23:11] <bislo> i looking for dvb-usb-af9015.fw
[23:11] <bastid_raZor> mneptok: yeah, didn't even think it was a permissions problem. was thinking it had a bad mount optoin
[23:11] <graelb> Slart, I understand what i am asking, but i'm not sure where to go about looking up how to do that work
[23:13] <mneptok> graelb: /etc/hosts
[23:13] <karioke>  Hi everyone
[23:13] <Slart> graelb: have a look at /etc/hosts..   man hosts will give you more info
[23:13] <zaphira13> Guys i have a big problem, When i am sending files from pidgin the go really slow but in windows with msn they are really fast...why??? What can i do??
[23:13] <karioke>  I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch to make an installable customized iso
[23:14] <ai9371> anyone have any experience setting up WMP54GS in ubuntu 9.1
[23:14] <karioke> Now when I start the installation (after booting up in the live cd) I get the error: An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed
[23:14] <ai9371> WMP54GS  = linksys wireless NIC
[23:14] <legend2440> Cappy: amd has stopped supporting a lot of their cards so the only option is the open source drivers
[23:14] <graelb> mneptok, Slart, Thanks guys, i'll get on it
[23:14] <karioke> Can anyone please help me out
[23:14] <ai9371> why did you make a customized installation cd
[23:15] <ai9371> why dont you just download the newest version of ubuntu iso and install it
[23:15] <Cappy> legend2440, thats what i was asking before, but everyone told me to install the proprietary ones, are the open source drivers the ones used by default in karmic?
[23:15] <karioke> ai9371: I needed to have some education related package in it to be distributed to few schools in my area.
[23:16] <dremits_> hi everyone. i'm getting into customizing my ubuntu box and i installed a complete theme with icons and fonts and all that but i'm wondering after looking at gnome-look.com, whats the difference between compiz and gtk themes?
[23:16] <warddr> Hello, I have an ubuntu vps with lighttpd, php and sqlite. Now I want a tool to analyze the lighttpd logfile, can anyone help me with this?
[23:16] <r0k3tm3n> 	
[23:16] <r0k3tm3n> i am looking to setup VirtualBox to attach the virtual machines to the local network, so i can ssh in to the vm, anyone had any success with this?
[23:16] <legend2440> Cappy: yes  open  system>administration>hardware drivers  if there are any proprietary drivers available for your card they will be there and you can activate them
[23:17] <HomeBoy_25> hi
[23:17] <legend2440> Cappy: what ati card you have?
[23:17] <ai9371> anyone used WMP54GS without ndiswrapper
[23:17] <Cappy> legend2440, ok, only my wifi drivers are mentioned there. so maybe my gfx problem is somewhere else
[23:17] <ai9371> WMP54GS = linksys wireless g
[23:18] <Cappy> legend2440, radeon mobility 200m
[23:18] <mojpseudonim> whois Cappy
[23:18] <HomeBoy_25> i need some assistance with my newly installed ubuntu os to my laptop... can anyone help me up?
[23:18] <morgan> should i restart after changing swappiness value?
[23:18] <soreau> dremits_: There is no compiz theme per se. There are gtk themes, compiz window decorator themes and other things that can be combined to make an overall theme
[23:18] <ai9371> whats the problem
[23:18] <HomeBoy_25> i'm having trouble installing my mobile broadband software to ubuntu
[23:19] <ai9371> mobile broadband?!
[23:19] <morgan> k. i ll restart anyway )
[23:19] <dremits_> soreau: thanks
[23:19] <ai9371> you mean like verizon or att
[23:19] <ai9371> net card
[23:20] <HomeBoy_25> sorry, im not from the US but i think yes
[23:20] <legend2440> Cappy: i'm not finding any proprietary drivers for that card     http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> Cappy: have you tried installing the radeon driver?
[23:20] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: Are you in uk? What is the make and network of the USB?
[23:20] <jenia> can anyone tell me: when I use the ifconfig command, I get the inet and inet6 info
[23:21] <jenia> which is the ip address?
[23:21] <HomeBoy_25> mobile broadband is like a USB dongle that you attach to the laptop/computer and connects you to the internet via 3G or 3.5G
[23:21] <iceroot> jenia: inet adress
[23:21] <bastid_raZor> jenia: inet is your ip
[23:21] <sryque> jenia:  inet addr: is the IP address and inet6 addr: is the IP v6 address
[23:21] <Cappy> bastid_raZor, i dont know what radeon driver to install, everywhere i read tells me NOT TO INSTALL it, yet people in here tell me to install. so im quite confused
[23:21] <iceroot> jenia: inet adress is ipv4  inet6 adrress is ipv6
[23:21] <HomeBoy_25> when i use it with windows, it automatically installs itself
[23:22] <jenia> okay thanks my friends
[23:22] <ai9371> I cant get my WMP54GS to work without ndiswrapper
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> Cappy: well, you can try it and if it does not work simply uninstall. no harm done.
[23:23] <Cappy> bastid_raZor, last time i tried that, i resorted to blowing away the install and starting from scratch.
[23:23] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: but you're not using windows. what is the make and model of the usb dongle?
[23:23] <bastid_raZor> Cappy: xserver-xorg-video-radeon  and radeonhd  ..
[23:23] <bastid_raZor> Cappy: if booting fails simply drop to shell and uninstall the exact package and reboot.
[23:23] <Cappy> this is the reason i keep going back to windows, it just works.
[23:23] <voss> hi, i've been here about 8 hours ago, writed about my problem with running Savage2
[23:23] <HomeBoy_25> dremits_: I'm using windows now since I can't have the internet work with ubuntu
[23:23] <Buuntu> how do I exclude certain files from a command like 'mv'?  say I'm using a wildcard but don't want one or two files
[23:24] <jenia> anyone know, by any chance, what address do I need to provide when setting the "bind address" variable in the mysql server
[23:24] <jenia> ?
[23:24] <baz> anyone know how to debug an openvpn server that starts with these error messages: http://pastebin.com/d61e78f8e
[23:24] <Concretesledge> Vmware workstation is not that usefull with windows, unless i could acess my hardrives
[23:24] <voss> anyone's in my problem?
[23:24] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: What is the make nd model of your usb dongle?
[23:24] <Concretesledge> anyone know how i can do this
[23:24] <jenia> what address meaning ip4 or ip6? im guessing ip6...
[23:25] <yodaz> hi
[23:25] <dremits_> Hey does anyone know an easy way to have <username>: in chatzila?
[23:25] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: the guest is windows?
[23:25] <yodaz> which modules do I need in initramfs to have my usb keyboard working during boot ?
[23:25] <Concretesledge> bastid_raZor, Yes.
[23:26] <rem__> jenia: I would enter 127.0.0.1 (local address), but I'm not sure ..
[23:26] <HomeBoy_25> dremits_: Lemme check.. It says Tattoo Mobile Broadband from Globe Telecom made by Hwawei
[23:26] <Cappy> "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon" returns "xserver-xorg-video-radeon is already the newest version."
[23:26] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: install vmware tools while booted into the guest.
[23:27] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: let me look at my desktop and get back to you.. i'll be able to tell you more about adding shares then.
[23:27] <Concretesledge> bastid_raZor,  done
[23:27] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: give me a minute
[23:27] <meydlo> hi all. Is here anybody who know help me with "ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout" wireless problem pls?
[23:28] <rem__> jenia: oops probably not a good idea as it will then onl.y listen to local connections.. so you might want to enter your ip4 address
[23:28] <rem__> inet address
[23:28] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: is youre system up to date?
[23:28] <HomeBoy_25> yes, it is
[23:28] <aar> While I was doing a Karmic install I got an input-output error. I restarted the system, but since this happened I have to wait about 2 mins for the system to boot (even after fixing the MBR). Do I have a problem with my BIOS?
[23:28] <HomeBoy_25> i think my problem is really "how to install .exe files in ubuntu"
[23:28] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: Install the linux-backports-modules-generic package and gnome-phone-manager
[23:28] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: Install those packages
[23:29] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: you'll need to edit your virtual machine settings from the workstation menu.. while the guest is not booted. under options enable shared folders
[23:29] <HomeBoy_25> because the device is mounted and i can browse through files
[23:29] <rem__> you can change it again in /etc/mysql/my.cnf and restart mysql ..
[23:29] <HomeBoy_25> how do i actually get to install the packages (sorry its my first time to use ubuntu)
[23:29] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: You can't install .exe files per se
[23:30] <HomeBoy_25> dremits_: or shall i say, run .exe files
[23:30] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: from there you'll see where youc an share folders. for example, i have /home/razor/downloads shared. as far as i remember it adds a desktop folder in the guest. but let me double check that.
[23:30] <maco> HomeBoy_25: .exe files are windows executables. *only* windows ones.
[23:30] <henrique_> i've installed nvidia drivers but i can't put 1024x768 resolution. i'm trying to configure xorg.conf but without success, can someone help me?
[23:30] <karma_police> there are no .exe files in ubuntu.. unless you are running wine
[23:31] <Cappy> so, does anyone else have any ideas as to why my video is laggy? seems like im running the newest version of the driver, but video is still being a pita.
[23:31] <karma_police> when is it laggy? all the time or just in browser?
[23:31] <dremits_> HomeBoy_25: If you wanna do it graphically go to System > Admin > Synaptic Package manager. then search for those packages, double click on the right ones to mark it and then click apply
[23:33] <Cappy> karma_police, all the time, windows will jump around when scrolling, i get VERY POOR video performance while playing a very simple game. its almost to the point where im looking for a windows disk.
[23:33] <ska> HOw do I charge my Ipod Touch in Ubuntu?
[23:33] <HomeBoy_25> i'll try that. thanks.
[23:33] <imblue> cghxfg
[23:34] <imblue> hola
[23:34] <karma_police> nvidia?
[23:34] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: have you made it that far?
[23:34] <iceroot> ska: its not part of ubuntu
[23:34] <Cappy> karma_police, on the same machine, i was once able to open multiple clients to the game, now the machine bogs down if i try and open one!
[23:34] <Alacard> If someone has experience with Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an Acer Aspire One D150-1920, I would appreciate some Q&A time :)
[23:34] <Cappy> karma_police, radeon mobility xpress 200m
[23:34] <henrique_> i've installed nvidia drivers but i can't put 1024x768 resolution. i'm trying to configure xorg.conf but without success, can someone help me?
[23:34] <iceroot> ska: its part of the hardware, just connect it to an usb-port
[23:34] <meydlo> "ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration tameout"?
[23:34] <Concretesledge> bastid_raZor, yeah it worked, Thanks!
[23:34] <vap0r> is it healthier to view your laptop screen at high contrast in the dark, or low contrast?
[23:34] <rem__> baz: did you try "sudo openvpn /etc/openvpn/server.conf  --script-security 2" ? (if that works you could create an alias to not type it everytime :)
[23:35] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: nice, glad to help.
[23:35] <iceroot> !ot | vap0r
[23:35] <karma_police> i have an acer aoa150 with ubuntu on it
[23:35] <Darkr-> brb
[23:35] <Concretesledge> bastid_raZor,  what about Video
[23:35] <rem__> baz: I mean "sudo openvpn --script-security 2 /etc/openvpn/server.conf" probably ..
[23:35] <karma_police> i'm relatively new to ubuntu.. since 9.04.. it sounds like a driver issue tho
[23:36] <karma_police> alacard what kind of probs are you having?
[23:36] <rem__> anyway good luck bbl
[23:36] <warddr> Hello, I have an ubuntu vps with lighttpd, php and sqlite. Now I want a tool to analyze the lighttpd logfile, can anyone help me with this?
[23:36] <Alacard> Karma, I IM'd you personally
[23:36] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: what about it?
[23:37] <Concretesledge> bastid_raZor,  i have Nvidia 9800GT i want to play call of duty modern warfare
[23:37] <sun> is it possible to search the scrollback buffer in XTerm?  (just like you can in urxvt by pressing Alt-S)
[23:37] <iceroot> warddr: awstats maybe (i am using it with apache)
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> Concretesledge: 3D and video accleration is about non-existant in vmware but i may be outdated in my information. possibly try asking in #vmware
[23:39] <dremits_> bastif_raZor: i think (and my knowledge isn't great at all) they recently added this. not sure though
[23:39] <warddr> iceroot, those stats are web-based, so they are accessible by everyone.?
[23:39] <iceroot> warddr: .htaccess
[23:40] <warddr> lighttpd doesn't support .htaccess
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> dremits_: i use an older version and i do not have it. i don't need it so.. i keep the motto. if it ain't broke don't fix it.
[23:40] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[23:40] <linuxghost> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 0cf3:0002 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5523 (no firmware)
[23:40] <iceroot> warddr: hm, thats bad
[23:40] <dremits_> bastif_raZor: sure
[23:40] <iceroot> !paste | linuxghost
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> dremits_: you can tab complete my name.... bast*tab  .. till write my name out so you don't have to. :)
[23:41] <bastid_raZor> s/till/it'll
[23:41] <dremits_> bastid_raZor: how did u guess
[23:41] <dremits_> bastid_raZor: ah typo
[23:41] <dremits_> bastid_raZor: you know i was just looking for how to quickly do that!
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> dremits_: :) part of having a long name is many typos if not tab completed. sort of a downside
[23:42] <B3rz3rk3r_> autocomplete ftw!
[23:42] <sepehr> Help needed, my kubuntu box can no longer connect to the lan (eth0) internet after i tried to get the wireless working by installing kwlan (which didnt work either so now it cant connect to the internet at all)
[23:43] <iceroot> sepehr: paste the output of ifconfig to pastebin
[23:43] <sepehr> any1?
[23:43] <iceroot> !paste | sepehr
[23:43] <iceroot> sepehr: and be patient
[23:43] <dremits_> bastid_raZor: say do you know why my name seems to be taken on freenode all of a sudden. it's such an obscure nick that i'm thinking i'm still logged on through webchat??
[23:43] <warddr> iceroot, I'll write a log analyze script myself than. Thanks for your help anyway
[23:43] <B3rz3rk3r_> dremits_, usually happens when you dont d/c properly
[23:43] <gatinho> oi
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> dremits_: not a clue. #freenode will be able to help with stolen/orphaned nicks
[23:44] <dremits_> bastid_raZor: cheers i'll chat with them
[23:44] <tritium> dremits_: if that's the case, /msg nickserv ghost <password>, and you can get your original nick back
[23:44] <sepehr> iceroot: ty, but mind telling how i can get the ifconfig output, also i only have 1 comp and to get internet right now im on a liveUSB
[23:44] <iceroot> warddr: ok, good luck
[23:44] <PointMan> if I want a normal user to just have acccess to restart apache and set a specific symbolic link, whats the safest way to do this ?
[23:44] <iceroot> sepehr: ifconfig is a command for the terminal
[23:45] <iceroot> PointMan: you need sudo to restart apache
[23:45] <jfalco> Hey guys, got a little problem... LAN xfer speeds start at 10Mb/s and then quickly drop to 200-500Kb/s (NFS, SMB, FTP, SCP) wrt160n,  DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/25/09) mini, everything 100/FD, New cables, New NICs, and new router. Any ideas???
[23:45] <iceroot> PointMan: because apache is running as root
[23:46] <ai9371> Im trying to set up lampp
[23:46] <PointMan> iceroot: yes, but how do I give the normal user access to do that? I was thinking of doing a shell script for the 2 commands, which he can just run but not edit
[23:46] <ai9371> when i try to set it up it says that mysql can not start
[23:46] <Hald> Howdy folks
[23:46] <Hald> How do I upgrade f-spot to the latest version on intrepid ibex?
[23:46] <sepehr> iceroot: mind telling me what il be looking for in ifconfig since it will take me a little while to reboot onto kubuntu to get it and back to the liveUSB to get back on IRC
[23:46] <tritium> doody, Hald
[23:46] <ai9371> im Trying to SET UP LAMPP
[23:47] <ai9371> help
[23:47] <ai9371> !
[23:47] <ai9371> i installed it and now it sayd mysql cant astart
[23:47] <tritium> !lamp | ai9371
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> Hald: if it isn't in the repo then either finding a ppa for it or if getting a deb from f-spot.. or build from source
[23:47] <sharif> how to know current version from terminal ?
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> Hald: possibly backports also.
[23:48] <bastid_raZor> sharif: lsb_release -a
[23:48] <timG4> enable IP-over-Firewire on Jaunty? step-by-step appreciated
[23:48] <Hald> bastid_raZor: and I can some hoe use this tool dpkg if I want to build it right? Is there a gui for the app?
[23:48] <CVirus> How can I prevent a user from accessing the tty terminals through ctrl +alt + f1 to 9 ?
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> Hald: to build it no, you would compile it.. a .deb would be using dpkg. you could double click the .deb and a GUI tool will install it.
[23:49] <fengor> dont start them CVirus
[23:49] <CVirus> fengor: how ?
[23:50] <PointMan> iceroot: I reason I ask is there is a rule that says "do not use suid shell scripts" but I dont see how it is more dangerous than just adding the user to the sudoers list
[23:51] <fengor> CVirus: /etc/init/ttyX.conf
[23:51] <sharif> shorewall firewall is available in ubuntu ?
[23:51] <dremits> managed to change it back
[23:51] <Slart> sharif: have you looked in the repos? (apt-cache, synaptic)
[23:52] <bazhang> !info shorewall-common | sharif
[23:53] <sharif> Slart : no i didn't
[23:53] <Hald> bastid_raZor: but can't I make a package from a tar and install it that way. You see, 9.10 did not suite my old laptop so I installed 8.10 again. But I still want the latest functions and apps
[23:53] <yigal> what is the x.org version for Karmic, X11R7.4 ?
[23:54] <Slart> !info xserver-xorg
[23:54] <bastid_raZor> Hald: there is a way to create a deb from a compiled app.. someone here knows the correct command after make .. buildinstall or something similiar
[23:54] <Slart> yigal: looks like it is
[23:54] <Hald> bastid_raZor: thanks for the clue, I google it
[23:54] <linuxghost> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m344c4ade
[23:54] <linuxghost> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m344c4ade   please see number 6
[23:54] <linuxghost> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m71084687   please see number 6 no firmware
[23:55] <yigal> right, ok so if I want to install X11R7.5 can I do that through https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[23:55] <trism> !checkinstall | Hald
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> thank you trism
[23:56] <protojay> hey guys, ive been looking around for a gameplay guide or walkthrough for the lincity game, but I cant seem to find one.. anyone have any ideas
[23:56] <protojay> ?
[23:56] <shawn_> protojay, Im not sure that this is the channel to ask for that sort of thing
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> protojay: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Lincity
[23:57] <protojay> shawn_, what channel do you suggest?
[23:57] <protojay> ohps, i meant, lincity-ng :)
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> protojay: that game is fun but the horrible graphics aren't worth the effort :)
[23:58] <linuxghost> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m71084687
[23:58] <sharif> !info lincity-ng
[23:58] <sepehr> iceroot: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2473c470
[23:59] <timG4> Anyone familiar with IP-over-Firewire? I'd like to enable in in Jaunty, but I can't find support docs with any detail for how to install/configure.
[23:59] <protojay> bastid_raZor, i thought the graphics were quite good