[00:00] are this integrated office application OK with MS documents? [00:00] oh I see it has also OOo [00:01] it was not on liveCD [00:05] Stylee, you can install anything from the ubuntu repositories - and that's a lot of apps [00:05] yes yes I know [00:06] I have just to test if it will work apceptably [00:06] it is a celeron 566 [00:06] and it is really slow [00:06] hmm [00:06] how much ram? [00:06] well rom is ok [00:06] about 430 MB === Penguino is now known as evadiendokick === evadiendokick is now known as evadokick [00:07] it has also a SCSI hdd === evadokick is now known as Penguino === Penguino1 is now known as Penguino [00:31] I am almost tempted to try xfce on my main system [00:33] Stylee, you should ;) [00:33] seems a nice alternative to gnome [00:34] it is. i previously used gnome as well, but xfce is really more configurable [00:35] well ofcourse I have only the things of gnome I need... the official release has too much useless stuff [00:36] I like that arrow up button of xfce [00:36] so you have just the header [00:37] :) [00:37] and good it uses GTK as gnome [00:37] yuo [00:37] not a big change [00:38] I am kinda unhappy with QT [00:38] yeah. === diib is now known as dbdii407 [04:46] Whenever I try to install sound-juicer (on Xubuntu 9.10) it tries to install pulseaudio. How do I avoid this? [06:58] anyone awake that csn hrlp? [06:58] can help* [07:03] i've dl'ed the iso for xubuntu and burned it to a cd. when i boot the pc i go thru the setup to run from cd w/oi making changes. it all loads up and prompts me for a username and password. i've tried everything i can think of to no avail.can anyone help? [07:12] make sure you are booting up from the cd, either use the button to go to boot menu or edit you bios settings. if you are try the user name ubuntu with no pass word maybe that will help. [07:15] auth failure [07:16] its booting from the cd [07:16] but prompts me for a passwd/usrnme combo [07:17] try to just leave it blank and see what happens [07:18] i have [07:18] ive tried ubuntu/ubuntu [07:18] ubuntu/blank [07:18] xubuntu/xubuntu. just about every combo i can think of [07:19] maybe i should have d/led the stable ver?? [07:20] what version were you trying [07:20] 9.1 i think [07:20] that is the stable version. most recent [07:21] ahh [07:21] sorry i am searching for any errors related so maybe i can help you [07:21] is there a faq somewhere? [07:21] not a pro [07:21] kthanx [07:22] apperciiate any help i can get [07:22] especially considering in 2am xmas morning [07:22] ;) [07:22] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD [07:23] check those out. tell me if the screen shots on the second page match up with what you see [07:23] no worries. my significant other is painting so i have little to do [07:25] fig1 and fig2 look like what i saw [07:25] fig3 never does load [07:25] well, it starts to, but there is a box in the middle of the scrnn prompting for username [07:26] first two for sure tho [07:27] ahh i found it [07:28] at the bootom of the 2nd pg [07:28] cool [07:28] Logging in [07:28] Sometimes a LiveCD might ask you for a user-name or password. Just leave these blank and press enter (or allow it to time-out). [07:28] ;) [07:28] kthan for the help [07:29] i found this as well Ubuntu/ubuntu Ubuntu/Ubuntu Ubuntu/ ubuntu/ root/ root/ubuntu, as potential user name pwd combos. your welcome [07:31] if i just leave the usrname blank and wait for a sec b4 entering passwd a toolbar thing pops up at the bottom [07:31] it has language keyboard sessions then time and date [07:31] and a round button with shutdown / restater [07:31] no icons or anytghing [07:32] yeah its in case you want to turn the machine off, or change the desktop sesion basically [07:32] i know if i try any passwd combo its gonna say auth failed and i'll have to start over so i guess ill wait for it to timeout hopefully [07:32] should i see icons on the desktop? [07:32] was there an ubuntu version on there before [07:33] on the hdd? [07:33] yes you should. install and examples i believe [07:33] yes [07:33] nope, win2k [07:33] let me start from the begining [07:33] this hdd may be bad [07:33] i'm not exactlly sure [07:34] i had this box hooked up to the vizio and used it to watch my warez [07:34] movies [07:35] well, yesterdsy elec went out for a sec and box wouldnt start win again [07:35] and no video zanymore eiether [07:35] so i pulled an old old box out of the clocect and tried hooking the hdd with all my movies on it as a slave [07:36] booted that old box up fine but cant see the dslave hdd with all my movies [07:36] tried booting from win2k disc to no avail [07:37] dfouble tripe and quadruple checked my jumper settings for the hdd [07:37] so i was gonna install xubuntu and try to recover my movies on my thumb drive [07:37] still with me? [07:38] yeah [07:38] k, lol [07:38] any ideas? [07:38] debating in my head how i would do this [07:38] it still hasnt timed oput btw [07:38] sorry about the shitty typing [07:39] im on a laptop [07:39] what happens when you press ctrl alt f1 [07:39] typoing isn't as bad problem as language :p [07:39] do you get a console [07:39] srry [07:40] when? ctrl alt f1? [07:40] at login? [07:40] went into a cmd prompt or sumthin [07:40] well its the console. i was wondering what it would say [07:41] auth failure auth failure [07:41] assuming drive cache: write thru [07:41] about 100 lines of that and still going [07:42] merry xmas sysi. srry bout that [07:43] it could be your drive i he a similiar error on a laptop at my house. am waiting on an xp disc to try and fix the drive that way [07:43] nah, i don't care, but still CoC [07:43] it still booted up the live disk though [07:43] its still going, how do i get back to that GUI? [07:44] same as before with f7 i believe [07:44] i'm gonna have to reboot it [07:44] hrmm [07:45] im thinking that the hdd is dead, but it still should boot xubuntu from the cd right? [07:46] try it with out the drive and see if works [07:47] it should. really you should have no issue. the only boot issues i have had was trying to install from alternate image [07:47] will it not overwrite me movie files [07:47] i'm gonna try the check disc for error option at the startup screen [07:48] for defects* [07:48] it should not over write it until you specify that you want to format the drive for install [07:49] so just hit install xubuntu? [07:49] is that what ur sugesstsing/? [07:50] if you want to over write everything on the drive. no i was suggesting that maybe try the cd with no hdd and see if it boots [07:50] ahhh [07:50] if it does potentially it may be getting hung up on trying to mount the drive [07:51] k, its shecking drive integrity now, i'll try that next tho [07:51] im not sure if that is possible but it could help to isolate any issues with the drive [07:51] can xubuntun be insatlled on a flash drive? [07:51] thumb drive [07:52] yes [07:52] usb? if your machine can boot from it [07:54] ill have to check the bios [07:54] my luck prolly not, its an older hewlitt crappard [07:55] hopefully it will work [07:56] check finished, no errors found ;) [07:58] what operating system is on your laptop [08:05] vista [08:08] ok dont have any info on making usb disk with vista, never tried [08:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick check that page out it may help if you need it [08:11] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions also just found this page in regards to your login troubles [08:12] kthan for thye help! [08:12] merry xmas to u and yours [08:12] im prolly gonna crash and take a stab at this tomorrow or something [08:12] cya [08:12] merry xmas have a good night [09:00] man this shizz is snappy as a croc [09:11] On Xubuntu, how do I add directories to the Places thing in the top menu? [09:11] add they to list in file manager [09:13] ah ha thanks Sysi [09:13] I was trying to add the wingood directory, I call it wingood because it's windows 7 :) [09:14] once windows has native EXT4 support I will call the linux mount point linuxbetter :D [09:14] 7 may not suck anymore that much, but still viruses [09:14] it has ext4 support? O.o [09:15] by default? [09:15] no [09:15] i said "once" [09:15] implying that it has not happened yet but will [09:15] oh rihgt [09:15] but it probably won't :P [09:15] my english isn't that good [09:15] sprechen Sie Deutsch? [09:16] no, finnish, english, some swedish and little french :P [09:16] you should learn german [09:17] I've seen a clever hack that runs a small linux distro in a virtual environment, uses it to mount the partition and communicates with it as a network drive [09:17] TheSheep, could you please rephrase that? you lost me after "it" [09:17] sounds interesting though [09:18] oh! [09:18] I see [09:18] runs a virtual machine on windows, which runs linux, mounts the ext4 drive and makes it available to the windows through samba [09:18] but then it has to be run through the crap windows IP stack :P [09:18] I didn't think virtual machines could access physical partitions on the host's drive [09:18] windows ip stack i stolen from bsd anyways [09:18] as ip stacks of virtually all systems out there [09:18] oh well in that case it isn't crap :P [09:19] linux's is too [09:19] i would have thought that the IP stack would be included in coreutils, which implies that it's from GNU [09:20] nope, bsd [09:20] don't tell me GNU stole their IP stack from bsd [09:20] ah k [09:20] what, so plain GNU has no ip stack? [09:20] ooooh [09:20] IP stack is in kernel [09:20] GNU doesn't have a kernel xD [09:21] hurd is still being developed [09:21] anyways, the BSD guys implemented the ip stack first and made it available for everyone for free [09:21] so all systems use that [09:21] don't really see the point in developing hurd any further [09:21] one could say that this is why Internet works at all [09:21] who would want to use plain GNU? [09:22] (I can't imagine how would Microsoft implement their own version of ip stack, but it makes me shudder) [11:14] after doing a upgrade from xubuntu 9.4 to 9.10 the sound no longer works.i have reinstalled 9.4 [11:14] any help [11:15] I'd try a clean install [11:16] have problems with that [11:16] such as? [11:17] well no matter how i download 9.10 and burn it at the lowest speed it will not bring the partion manger up [11:18] you do know there is an option to check the disks integrity at boot right? and also i would look into issues as to why the partition manager won't show up [11:18] when i click forward it jumps from 3of6 to 4of 7 bypassing the partion manager [11:18] does exactly the same with ubuntu [11:19] yes [11:19] and it tells me ok [11:19] and if you ignored the setting up of partition manager? assuming that it would install in a specific way? [11:20] cant get beyond 4of7 keeps telling me need to partion [11:21] tried running the installer through the terminal? [11:21] what i did with ubuntu installed 8.10 then upgraded to 9.4 then to 9.10 [11:22] dont know enough about linux to do command line [11:22] I personally never liked upgrading.. its never done cleanly [11:22] clean with ubuntu but with xubuntu the sound goes [11:23] and i do prefer xubuntu [11:23] even when I changed from 8.10 to 9.04 I did clean install, never had any issues [11:23] well you can always install xubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu setup :p [11:23] oh no problems with 9.4 just 9.10 [11:24] just telling you my experiences, and I'm not upgrading to 9.10, seems like the new fs is plagued with issues amongst other things [11:25] well have reinstalled 9.4 so might wait until 10.4 comes along [11:25] yes a lot of help questions in ubuntu channel [11:25] hopefully the issues outlined in the release notes with 10.4 is not as worse as 9.10 [11:26] should be all sorted out by then [11:26] only time will tell [11:26] yep [11:26] but like I said, you can install xubuntu-desktop [11:27] the sound issues could be various, anything from the driver to the sound server [11:27] maybe its muted in alsamixer [11:27] i do have ubunto 9.10 on the other partion but ut seems to be a little clunky to me [11:27] but the sound works ok with ubuntu [11:28] i do prefer xubuntu [11:28] and xubuntu is no different from ubuntu, its just the usage of different de/wm [11:29] well got to go thanks for the help and chat oh merry christmas [11:30] merry christmas to you too [13:54] hi [13:55] what do we have in evolution about M$ Exchange 2007 support? Looks like evolution-api is not solving the problem. [13:56] "The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only." [13:58] ?? [15:21] How to connect Windows 7 and Xubuntu? [15:22] !ntfs [15:22] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [15:25] How to create crossover network with Windows 7 and Xubunut? [15:26] !smb [15:26] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [15:27] I am a beginner i really dont understand, please explain little further? [15:27] you copy those links to your browser's location bar, and read the pages that appear [15:28] I know that, I mean is there any step by step guide for networking with Xubuntu [15:30] i installed xubuntu on Thinkpad r40e [15:34] VIG1: what are you trying to do actually? [15:35] I want to connect my Xubuntu laptop and Windows 7 PC for File transfer? [15:38] I installed a new ethernet card for my pc for connecting using crossover cable [15:40] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794799 [15:40] maybe that'd help? [15:42] I will try, Thanks! [15:42] I found it with google [16:46] hey guys, i got a via onboard soundcard and got problems with playing games. When i play games in cedega or quakelive i can play for a couple of minutes then my hdd sounds weird and everything goes slow, if i change the profile in sound settings when this occur it wears off [16:47] when i play warsow theres no problems at all, seems like it happends in cedega and quakelive only [16:49] ive digged thru the forums but cant find anything about vt1708/A azalia hdac and gaming problems :/ [21:44] hiya, I'm trying to setup a new wacom tablet on 9.10.. I haven't really found any config help pertaining to 9.10 as it looks like 9.10 should just figure it all out. From what I can tell, it doesn't look like hal/the system is recognizing the tablet (or doens't have support built in). I have the wacom-tools and x11-input wacom pagackes installed but don't see the fdi configurations you would expect [21:45] ubuntu seems too busy, and I haven't been able to figure this out on the forums.. except someone posting just a few hours ago with the exact same issue [21:45] I believe this bamboo is slightly newer than the rest [21:48] crazygir_: I have an old volito2 and had no problems since a couple of versions [21:48] crazygir_: what does 'lsusb' shows? [21:48] show* [22:01] Bus 002 Device 003: ID 056a:00d4 Wacom Co., Ltd [22:01] nothing in dmesg though [22:02] TheSheep: ^ [22:03] dmesg may be silent [22:04] I'd google for that id [22:04] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8292777 [22:04] here you go [22:06] hmm.. or maybe not [22:16] yea, I dunno what to do :P [22:18] does it work as a mouse? [22:22] TheSheep, at least my wacom works as a mouse. [22:31] knome: yeah, I know, but this is a new model [22:31] oh, right:) [22:31] knome: I was wondering if it's detected at all [22:31] it looks like if it's shown in lsusb [22:32] knome: there are several levels at which it has to be detected [22:32] knome: it may be detected as a usb device, as a pointing dvice and finally as a wacom [22:33] yeah [22:49] TheSheep: nope, doens't pick up any pen input [22:51] I know it sounds silly, but did you check the cable? did you try a different socket? [22:58] Marry Christmas! [22:58] Merry* [22:58] Balsaq, you too [23:00] I saw your sister on here somewhere...and when i saw the last name i told my nephew "i'll bet thets knome's sister-she looks just like him! so he emailled her and a few weeks later she responded "how do you kow i am is sister"? [23:00] Balsaq, oh, it was you ;) yes, it's my sister [23:00] *she's [23:01] i knew it because she looks like you , i didn't email her but my nepher the artist did [23:01] i have some of his art on you tibe now if you want to see it [23:01] Balsaq, well, there is something like 15 with our surname in the world and we're all same family [23:01] i knew it [23:01] Balsaq, sure [23:01] ok i will have to change it to public view 1st [23:02] we made a olot of cd sleeves [23:02] a lot* [23:03] he drwaings are kind of wild...reminds me of a theme i have titled...land of xubuntu [23:03] heh [23:04] very creative but the art doesn't look like xubuntu art....yet [23:04] well, there is time to tweak it [23:05] he is young, so itell him...just submit, and then submit more....let them suggset tweaks [23:05] he draws nearly everyday for hours [23:06] i will go to youtube now and change it to public...BRB [23:06] just submitting stuff is the best for both young and old [23:07] my new xubunu "mouse" , which i drew is in there also [23:07] brb [23:11] ok i change it to public i will PM you the info so you can view it now if you like [23:11] okay, sure [23:11] :) [23:11] one moment [23:17] knome woops its not there yet, must be a hold on it? [23:17] maybe i can email it? [23:17] i think everything doesn't show up just yet [23:17] yup [23:17] just link me straight to the username :) [23:18] uncleguke [23:18] okay [23:18] found! [23:18] i have never done youtube before [23:18] but i watched it in my account so i know its there, just checked [23:18] just bought the youtube camera recently [23:19] wow, the mouse looks great. it's no exactly xubuntu stuff, but could be great for the edubuntu artwork [23:19] hey that was mine! [23:19] yup :) [23:19] see the chalkboard behind him [23:19] LTS [23:19] yeah [23:20] tried to keep him plain like your mouse [23:20] the mouse is the xfce logo [23:20] yup [23:20] he ventured out of the circle for a bit [23:20] can you see the wild stuff my nephew drew [23:20] like the mushrooms [23:20] hehe yeah [23:21] just watching the vid [23:21] they are kewl [23:21] there's lots of detail [23:21] oh he had many books filled [23:21] the skull sleeve looks cool! (even if i don't exactly like skulls ;)) [23:21] yeah i know [23:21] the heart is great as well [23:21] and the suse cover, it's a great idea [23:21] bizarrre [23:21] (trying to comment live) [23:21] that was mine [23:22] those arent my stickers though [23:22] found em and printed em [23:22] the suse cover idea could be used as a base for a wallpaper [23:22] sinc ethen i made about 20 more [23:23] now we have thicks colored paper [23:23] and the skulls as well, i mean that looks really great [23:23] he love those [23:23] i like the mushrooms [23:23] it doesn't look too boring/repetitive [23:23] told him to get mice in there..or lynx [23:23] hehe [23:24] on what artwork is the xubuntu case based on? [23:24] you mean the mouse [23:24] the one in the same style as debian and arch [23:24] we are just drwing and figure you guys may decide the rest or ask for other work [23:24] we just do anything and hope it spurs other ideas [23:25] yeah. anything is welcome :) [23:25] or you can request a specific order of any kind [23:26] well, i think the biggest problem with these (which is a problem we can fix) is that they are either too stuffed or have too much space [23:26] and some of the artwork doesn't really relate with xubuntu in any way [23:27] i'd like to have a better look on the suse cover, the skull cover and if you want, also the mouse cover and i can convert the artwork into svg [23:27] maybe if you have a digital camera, take photos with it [23:28] still photos, i mean :) [23:28] ok [23:28] i have him on the phone now brb [23:28] the trees look nice as well, but i'm having a hard time thinking were they would fit :) [23:30] my new youtube camera can also do still photos i wil lread the directions.... [23:30] hehe okay :) [23:30] anyway...we are now developers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [23:30] hehe [23:30] yup ;) [23:30] #xubuntu-devel ;) [23:30] yup [23:30] maybe [23:30] :) [23:31] never know [23:40] i will go back in channel now thanks for viewin our video [23:40] np [23:41] do not stop having fun making those:) [23:41] well the new ones looks like something canonical would have made [23:42] i give them to people who never heard of buntu...with a burned cd [23:42] i find buntu graphics on the net, copy and [paste [23:43] and make really nice sleeves now netter than the ones you saw [23:43] heh [23:43] okay [23:43] i'm going to go and watch the telly now [23:43] see you later everybody [23:43] ok thanks again [23:43] np. if you post new stuff to youtube, feel free to PM me [23:43] ok see you later [23:44] bye o/