[00:24] hi [00:24] i have problem [00:28] hello [00:35] hi [00:36] whats the best app for php, html etc in KDE ? [00:37] soee: what do you mean for editing? [00:37] html is best viewd in firefox [00:37] some app to write scripts in php, javascript etc [00:38] i was using bluefish, geany under gnome [00:41] soee: they work in kubuntu as well [00:57] Kage [00:58] Kage: Supersub here.. thanks for your help the other day.. [02:28] hello [02:29] I'm configuring strigi/nepomuk now to test it out [02:29] I've read strigi is among the fastest indexers [03:42] has anybody noticed when you change your resolution in KDE's system settings/display menu, and then reboot, it doesn't stick? [04:01] <|sysop|> hi [04:03] hi [04:19] does anyon e have any tips to get plasma desktop to not lag as much im on a netbook but the 4.4 version im runnin cant works in plasma-netbook [04:19] if i switch to compiz or not use opengl or use xrender anything to speed things up [04:21] its still in the beta phase you might just have to wait for a patch could be a bug [04:22] webbb82: how did 4.3 work? [04:22] Hi. Is there any options in dolphin to remove files without storing them in the trash folder? [04:22] do u know if i can run the netbook launcher in 4.4 [04:22] more laggy [04:23] p1erre_: iirc holt or while deleting [04:23] like if i were to move a widget across the screen it would jump a inch or so at a time [04:23] Fanfare: thanks.. [04:23] p1erre_: its [04:24] you can always go back to kde 3.5 remix [04:25] true [04:25] have to tried googling your netbook and kubuntu 9.10 to see if anyone else having that issue? [04:26] eek i meant when i said go back to 3.5 remix you can do it on 9.10 and it can run along side 4.x [04:27] sinclair86: what do u mean [04:27] can anyone recommend me a book for advanced C++ programming in linux? [04:27] erm... hold on... i had to do it cause 4.4 sc beta package broke knetmanager and it was p[issin me off ill find the link [04:28] p1erre_ learn c [04:28] has anybody noticed when you change your resolution in KDE's system settings/display menu, and then reboot, it doesn't stick? [04:29] sinclair86: I already know C. I can program in C++ too. But I would like to make a review and learn some advanced stuff. Finally I would like to get involved in KDE dev. [04:30] do u know if plasma-netbook works in kde 4.4 [04:31] webbb82 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty === albert is now known as med3s [04:32] ok what am i lookin for on that page [04:33] thats what i was telling you about [04:34] im at the page but it doesnt say anything bout netbooks [04:34] yes but you are having trouble with the 4.4 kde? [04:35] oh i get it you ment install it along with gnome and 4.4 swiching between them at the login acreen? [04:35] hallo :) [04:35] OH [04:35] some kubuntu screenshots, http://tr.im/IDpH share :) [04:35] my bad... lol [04:37] you have both installed right now? [04:38] ya [04:39] anyone got any ideas what i need to view NNTP news [04:40] ok i learned the netbook launcher works in 4.4 but how come when i installed itand logged in all i would se is the wallpaper and no netbook interface [04:53] Has anybody noticed in Kubuntu that if you change your screen resolution and reboot that it doesn't keep the setting? [04:58] I take it nobody else has noticed this but me? [04:59] oh shit sup roasted... got yer shit fixed since yesterday? [05:00] what was my problem yesterday? [05:00] you had to keep installing for some reason? [05:00] ummmmm [05:01] I had several problems yesterday [05:01] lol [05:01] just trying tot hink about which one I would have mentioned in here [05:01] what the [05:01] lol im not sure either was trying to help i know you gots 2 kubuntu computers... was it tyhe networking? [05:01] I just quit? [05:01] I dont believe so. Both computers are running though. [05:01] I dual booted them. XP and Kubuntu. [05:02] those suckers are faster than my own :( [05:02] I got double the cores but they have a faster core clock speed and DDR3 ram with some more speed [05:02] my servers i own are faster than my person pc... lol i turned all my desktop into servers and stuck myself with a p3 256 ram [05:03] llol, nice [05:03] I dont have any real "servers". my kubuntu desktop Im on has a pair of drives in it that are shared out for file services. [05:03] yea need a pratice enviroment im a systems admin for my work [05:03] 1 is shared, the 2nd is just a backup of the primary [05:03] hey have you ever messed around with resolution in kde? [05:04] I noticed a weird issue that Im kind of surprised exists [05:04] oh? [05:04] yeah - I change the resolution. Apply. Okay. Reboot. [05:04] Upon reboot it goes back to native rez. [05:04] tested it ton 4 pcs [05:04] it on* [05:04] kde 4.4 or 4.3? all 9.10? [05:04] Roasted_: yeah, kubuntu refuses to remember my dual monitor setup [05:05] kaitos - I didnt even bother trying to attack my dual monitor setup with KDE. I already had ubuntu on here so I just copied the xorg over. [05:05] sinclair86 - yeah theyre all 9.01 KDE 4.3.2 [05:06] two nvidia cards, two intel cards. one intel is a laptop, one intel is a desktop. the two nvidia desktops are identical so I guess its just one that you can use for comparison reasons [05:06] eh weird... im glad i only have one res and thats 600 x 800 [05:06] Im downloading opensuse now to slap on my spare rig (one of the 4) and see if its a KDE thing or Kubuntu thing. [05:06] 4 mins to go [05:07] its proably a ubuntu thing [05:07] which begs the obvious question - if kde is supposed to be more user friendly for newer linux users, why cant you do something so ungodly simple [05:07] kde is really not their priority.. [05:07] sadly :( [05:07] whos top dog for a KDE distro? [05:08] no idea =\ [05:08] Roasted_: most people would say opensuse [05:08] it frustrates me because I love ubuntu, but I like KDE. So I was hoping to get best of both worlds. But little things in kubuntu can really irritate me [05:09] I heard the newer opensuse is pretty solid. [05:09] Ill find out in a minute or two when I intall it though [05:09] like i said when they release kubuntu a month after they release the gnome it just show where thier priorities lay [05:09] yeah [05:09] I like gnome a lot [05:10] fedora 12 kde is pretty sexy too [05:10] I switched to kde based on curiosity mostly. When I saw what gnome 3.0 was going to pump out I wanted to hurl and decided I'd stick with kubuntu. [05:10] is it? [05:10] but it rapes my little p3 :'( [05:10] yes [05:10] its just sad because distros like fedora, suse, etc. Their forums dont compare to ubuntu. :( [05:10] yes if i had a desktop i would have it installed right now [05:10] plus theyre RPM based.... [05:10] which isnt a bad thing [05:10] true [05:10] I just like debian [05:11] like I feel like going to RPM would just neuter me [05:11] its pretty much the same instead of apt-get its yum [05:12] but doesnt debian have a ton more packages available? [05:12] yes [05:12] by far [05:12] gah [05:12] ok i got plasma-netbook to work but its just about more laggy aand slow than the normal plama-desktop [05:12] how about top dog for kde/debian? [05:13] haha thats actually waht we need... one of them over here... [05:14] my cousin stresses to me about how great fedora is [05:14] I should really give it a solid shot [05:14] you willnt be dissapointed esp if you like kde [05:15] yeah, I like KDE a lot. [05:15] I just dont want to go to an RPM distro and feel like I have nothing due to the lesser amount of packages being available. [05:15] but maybe thats just me being retarded [05:15] since I use very few out there, lol [05:16] they only thing that is a bitch in fedora that annoyed me is that they didnt have packages multimedia like how ubuntu has gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ugly and good [05:17] I dont even really know what thats about anyway. I just install medibuntu and thats it. [05:17] Hows that play out in fedora with multimedia codecs? [05:17] thats the word i was looking for [05:17] \the codecs [05:17] not multimedia [05:18] oh and you know ubuntu has apparmor well fedora has selunix [05:19] apparmor? [05:19] selinux* [05:20] I dont evekn ow what either one of those are :/ [05:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor ubuntu does it for you but in fedora you kinda have to do it yourself [05:20] basicly [05:21] have you ever used vista [05:21] and its like click ok to run [05:21] those boxes? [05:21] click okay to run in terms of when you try to launch certain exe's? [05:21] wait [05:21] you mean the UAC [05:22] yea where its like allow or dissalow [05:22] that annoying effing "are you sure?" "no really, are you sure?" "you just clicked okay, are you sure?" [05:22] disallow [05:22] yeah I effing hate that thing [05:22] i suck at explaing stuff lol [05:22] brb cig [05:22] lol [05:32] do you knopw if it is possinble to run mutlitple kdes? [05:32] does this bug affect anyone else https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/495763 ? [05:35] not me [05:36] oh damn [05:37] ddddd [05:38] altho [05:38] i have noticed it in serval other programs [05:38] hi [05:38] hi [05:41] my first experience.. ubuntu ^^; [05:42] kubuntu? [05:42] yes kubuntu [05:45] petsounds [05:45] kbntur, hello there [05:45] hello~ [05:48] many usr connections, but quiet ^^:; [05:54] kbntur, maybe they're still sleep, you know different timezone, different places. :) [05:54] how do connect my computer to a wireless network using kubuntu 9.04? [05:54] its is 1 am here.. lol [05:54] oops.. ok thats ''; [05:54] oh goodie a question [05:55] jc0694 is your card recognized? [05:55] you on kubuntu? [05:56] >_< [05:56] um.. hhh [05:57] oh shit he is i didnt even see the end of his sentced... screen too small [05:57] yes it is [05:57] sinclair86, yes [05:57] have you ever used the wireless before? [05:58] you should just be able to click the little icon in the task back and lcik the wireless nextwork [05:58] yes... i had it configured a couple of days ago by somebody in this forum... i powered off the pc and i thought it would automatically connect when i turned it back on but it doesn't auto connect... how do i connect manually? [05:59] did they set you up via knetworkmanager? [05:59] jc0694: tried what sinclair said? [06:00] is there anyway to config kwallet to store a password it keeps asking for it everytime i start my wireless [06:00] you can either diable it or leave the password black [06:00] thanks... hold one sec please... [06:00] blank* [06:01] i tried that and it still ask me for it and when i click on cancel it won't hookup [06:02] is it asking for our wireless password or your kwallet password? [06:03] tato42 system settings > advance > kdewallet access control uncheck prompt when blah blah [06:03] it says kwallet password [06:03] ok thanks i'll try that [06:04] wait are you trying to disable it alltogether? [06:05] jc0694 any luck? [06:06] no... i went to network management and i see the wireless network i want to connect to but it won't connect... any ideas? [06:06] it worked a couple of days ago... not sure what's going on [06:06] sudo restart network-manager [06:06] are you setting the right encryption? [06:06] does it throw out any bugs? [06:06] cool thanks that did the job [06:06] np tato42 [06:07] sinclair86, i just booted up kubuntu like 5 minutes ago... i need to restart network manager using sudo? [06:07] sinclair86, how do i restart nm with sudo? [06:07] yea its might have throw out errors at boot that you couldnt see [06:08] open up konsole [06:08] ok... [06:08] alt+f2 type konsole [06:09] ok [06:10] any errors? [06:10] no... the konsole is open [06:11] did you type "sudo restart network-manager" [06:12] says the "sudo restart" command not found [06:12] of shit you on 9.04? [06:12] yes [06:13] sudo /etc/init.d/knetwork-manager [06:13] wait [06:13] sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart [06:17] there is no file called "network-manager" in init.d. however, there's a file called NetworkManager in init.d. is this the file you want me to restart? [06:17] yes thats what i was looking [06:18] they changed from the v system to upstart in 9.10 [06:18] it's done [06:18] no errors [06:18] kk [06:18] output of "iwlist scan" [06:18] does it show you your ap? [06:21] ... let me take a step back for sec... i think the problem may be something else... when i go to hardware drivers it says that my broadcomm sta wireless adapter is activated but currently not in use... i do i make it "in use" [06:21] sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ? [06:22] you can't do this from a gui? [06:22] im a command line kind of less searching to go thru [06:22] kind of guy* [06:23] sinclair86, props for that :-) [06:23] i hate searching thru gui seetings unless its one click to connect [06:24] but i think it's really simple to activate it by gui... i can't see myself going through this everytime i turn on my laptop [06:25] yes but if ifgure out what happened i can help you thru it so it doesnt happen again [06:25] jc0694: you wont have to , this is for debugging im guessing [06:27] OMG WAIT [06:27] jc0694 [06:28] yep [06:28] i just realized ive had this problem before [06:28] does you kde session save on logout? [06:29] i'm not sure [06:29] meaning if you leave programs opened on netboot they are just as you left them? [06:29] next boot* [06:29] don't know... how do i check... that would be useful [06:31] go into system settings [06:31] advanced [06:31] Session Manager [06:31] haha thanks thats what i was looking for does it say start from pervios session? [06:32] yes... it says restore previous session [06:33] niced [06:33] you have the same bug i did [06:33] click start empty session and reboot [06:33] you should be good [06:34] u don't want to restore from previous session? that seems like what i want... it was configured last session so i want it to stay configured for each session after that. wouldn't an empty session be starting everything over again? [06:34] no no [06:34] it mean [06:35] if you have like programs running when you reboot you will boot with tem back opened [06:35] ok... so select empty session and then reboot? [06:35] yes [06:39] yo jc0694 brb cig break [06:44] any luck? [06:45] no... i've my wireless tab on network management is now grayed out... do i have to start all over again reinstalling the drivers? [06:45] that was an amazing nightmare [06:46] no [06:46] any reason you arnt using 9.10 ? [06:48] no... i can upgrade if u think it's worth it... i'm just trying to limit upgrading every single time an update comes out since each update runs a risk for messing things up... is this true? [06:48] depends [06:49] just do me a fav and humor me just to see where you stand "sudo lspci | grep "network" and "sudo ifconfig" [06:49] jc0694: yes however since you are not using a LTS release you should update [06:51] grep "Network" * [06:52] what's the exact command and what directory do i need to be in? [06:52] doesnt matter the directory [06:52] and the first command i would like to see is [06:52] sudo lspci | grep "Network" [06:52] second [06:52] ifconfig [06:54] first command says something about network controller: broadcom corp BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03) [06:54] kk thats good [06:54] jc0694: do you have alternative internet access? [06:54] the second one im just looking for ath0 or wlan0 [06:55] jc0694: if so check for proprietary drivers in applications -> system -> hardware drivers [06:55] ya... i get something for etho and lo too... what specifically are u looking for [06:56] wlan0 or ath0 [06:57] it just has indentations for "etho" and "lo"... there is no listing for wlan0 or ath0 [06:57] kor... [06:57] k [06:57] try [06:57] jc0694: did you try what i said? [06:58] if hes on command line he could just do sudo lshw -C network [06:58] if the ifcae doesnt go up its the driver [06:58] i was just going to see if it was down forst before checking the the driver [06:58] r00t_ninja, it only says something about my broadomm wireless sta being activated but currently not in use [06:59] is this a laptop? [06:59] yea [06:59] r00t_ninja, yes [06:59] make sure your wireless is turned on lol [06:59] omg! [06:59] im and idiot [06:59] like right click it and enable wireless [06:59] i don't understand this... i installed the driver and it was working... how could this be the driver again? [07:00] an* [07:00] how do i enable... that's what i've been saying... it says activated but currently not in use [07:01] right click on the nm icon and click enable wireles [07:01] ? [07:01] is it checked? [07:02] that's not an option when right clicked... all i show are "manage connections", "network management settings", "panel options" and "remove this network management ctrl + R" [07:03] ok [07:03] as stated when i click "manage connections" i can't click the wireless tab because it's greyed out... [07:04] sudo lshw -C network [07:05] whats up sinclair86 [07:05] jc0694: open up a terminal and type/copy and paste "sudo apt-get reinstall b43-fwcutter [07:05] jc0694: open up a terminal and type/copy and paste "sudo apt-get reinstall b43-fwcutter" [07:05] jc0694: open up a terminal and type/copy and paste "sudo apt-get install --reinstall b43-fwcutter" [07:05] sorry [07:05] typos etc [07:05] let me save this and show u what i see [07:05] then reboot [07:05] karmic koula sucks [07:05] koala? lol? [07:06] why o why did i updrade [07:06] that will make sure your wireless cards firmware is installed [07:06] clearly your spelling sucks. troll. [07:06] gp - I wont lie. karmic gave me a headache too. [07:06] tried installing it on 5 computers. only 1 worked right. [07:06] i am not able to get resolttuion right on karmic [07:07] but it was working perfectly before updrading [07:09] http://pastebin.ca/1727316 [07:09] gp, sometimes the latest version is not the best ;) [07:10] gp - I too dropped back to jaunty after checking out karmic. [07:10] sinclair86, u still there? [07:10] yuea looking at it [07:10] I hate to say it, but karmic is the "vista" of ubuntu. Works great for few. Headaches to most. [07:10] how do i do that without reinstalling [07:10] gp - ehh I dont know bro. I reinstalled... [07:10] gp - I had my partitions split, so I just dumped root and put jaunty back on top, leaving home untouched. [07:11] im fairly sure ubuntu will keep your existing home folder [07:11] also gp: what graphics card [07:11] r00t_ninja - only if its partitioned separately. [07:11] Roasted_: im fairly sure even if its not [07:11] k jc0694 almost done [07:11] so are the drivers installed? [07:11] r00t_ninja - if its all 1 partition, home is lumped in with root. If you format root and put jaunty on top, you lose everything, home included. [07:12] VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02) [07:12] Roasted_: i saw a blog post on it revently [07:12] my system HP proliant ML110 G5 [07:12] r00t_ninja - Im sure it may be possible if you DONT format it and just dump the OS on top, maybe it creates a .old file for it. But if you select format + install, you're fried. [07:13] they installed to see if they are activated i need to see the output of "sudo lsmod" [07:13] hold a sec... [07:13] not activated but loaded [07:13] in the kernel [07:14] http://pastebin.ca/1727319 [07:15] jc0694: reboot and the hardware detection should take care of it. [07:16] it didnt tho that was the thing [07:16] i tried that before... didn't work [07:16] so are the drivers installed? [07:16] h/o looking [07:16] jc0694: go into hardware drivers and remove that driver [07:17] canNOT do... that driver took me forever to install and it did finally work... i need another solution [07:17] jc0694: its easy to reinstall trust me [07:18] you just go back into there click it and click activate [07:18] trust me... i remember installing that driver... hahahahah [07:18] sudo modprob b43-pci-bridge [07:18] fine whatever [07:19] im willing to bet those trouble installing it before were due to repos that hadn't been refreshed but ? [07:19] talking about apt-get update? [07:20] guys, thanks for all your help, but i don't think we're on the right path here... i don't think there is anything wrong with the device or the driver... it's only a simple matter of turning it on [07:20] out put of lsmod didnt show the driver of lcshw [07:21] trust r00t_ninja [07:21] ... but i intalled the driver and it worked 2 bootups ago... how could the driver be bad? [07:21] not bad [07:21] bug in saved session -> nm reboot [07:23] do u agree with r00t_ninja (i.e. remove the driver and reinstall?) [07:24] yes [07:24] you have the driver but its not loaded in the kernel [07:24] any one here using a lcd screen with a 1440 x 900 w/96 dpi have good font settings? [07:25] will i have to follow the steps from the manufacturer again to reinstall or is there a very simple way to install a previously installed driver? [07:25] jc0694: to install the broadcom driver you just go into hardware drivers [07:26] you dont need to follow the manufacture steps [07:26] there made to be generic to any linux distribution [07:28] i'm saying that because the manufacture insructions actually didn't even work... somebody here finally proposed a work around that solved the problem and i forgot what that was now [07:28] your wifi didnt work straight of the box? [07:28] fresh install? [07:29] jc0694: it will work , i have a similar card in my other desktop [07:29] no... broadcomm only recently started offering support for their wireless devices and my laptop was manufactured in 2008 [07:30] sinclair86: the broadcom firmware is proprietary [07:30] linux support that is [07:30] so no it isnt [07:30] ah fuck forgot i was using backtrack when i had my broadcom so it was already loaded [07:30] they support their windows stuff well but with linux it's kinda "you're on your own/use at your own risk" [07:31] jc0694: yea , if you have some other way to connect to the internet in ubuntu its easy to install them [07:32] here's the path to the directions: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt [07:33] jc0694: did you do the blacklisting part? [07:33] if so i suggest you undo it [07:34]