[00:24] <kamil> hi
[00:24] <kamil> i have problem
[00:28] <apparle> hello
[00:35] <soee> hi
[00:36] <soee> whats the best app for php, html etc in KDE ?
[00:37] <apparle> soee: what do you mean for editing?
[00:37] <apparle> html is best viewd in firefox
[00:37] <soee> some app to write scripts in php, javascript etc
[00:38] <soee> i was using bluefish, geany under gnome
[00:41] <apparle> soee: they work in kubuntu as well
[00:57] <lucky__> Kage
[00:58] <lucky__> Kage: Supersub here.. thanks for your help the other day..
[02:28] <Wolfcastle> hello
[02:29] <Wolfcastle> I'm configuring strigi/nepomuk now to test it out
[02:29] <Wolfcastle> I've read strigi is among the fastest indexers
[03:42] <Roasted> has anybody noticed when you change your resolution in KDE's system settings/display menu, and then reboot, it doesn't stick?
[04:01] <|sysop|> hi
[04:03] <Fanfare> hi
[04:19] <webbb82> does anyon e have any tips to get plasma desktop to not lag as much  im on a netbook but the 4.4 version im runnin cant works in plasma-netbook
[04:19] <webbb82> if i switch to compiz or not use opengl or use xrender  anything to speed things up
[04:21] <sinclair86> its still in the beta phase you might just have to wait for a patch could be a bug
[04:22] <Fanfare> webbb82: how  did 4.3 work?
[04:22] <p1erre_> Hi. Is there any options in dolphin to remove files without storing them in the trash folder?
[04:22] <webbb82> do u know if i can run the netbook launcher in 4.4
[04:22] <webbb82> more laggy
[04:23] <Fanfare> p1erre_: iirc holt <shift> or <ctrl> while deleting
[04:23] <webbb82> like if i were to move a widget across the screen it would jump a inch or so at a time
[04:23] <p1erre_> Fanfare: thanks..
[04:23] <Fanfare> p1erre_: its <shift>
[04:24] <sinclair86> you can always go back to kde 3.5 remix
[04:25] <webbb82> true
[04:25] <sinclair86> have to tried googling your netbook and kubuntu 9.10 to see if anyone else having that issue?
[04:26] <sinclair86> eek i meant when i said go back to 3.5 remix you can do it on 9.10 and it can run along side 4.x
[04:27] <webbb82> sinclair86: what do u mean
[04:27] <p1erre_> can anyone recommend me a book for advanced C++ programming in linux?
[04:27] <sinclair86> erm... hold on... i had to do it cause 4.4 sc beta package broke knetmanager and it was p[issin me off ill find the link
[04:28] <sinclair86> p1erre_ learn c
[04:28] <Roasted> has anybody noticed when you change your resolution in KDE's system settings/display menu, and then reboot, it doesn't stick?
[04:29] <p1erre_> sinclair86: I already know C. I can program in C++ too. But I would like to make a review and learn some advanced stuff. Finally I would like to get involved in KDE dev.
[04:30] <webbb82> do u know if plasma-netbook works in kde 4.4
[04:31] <sinclair86> webbb82 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[04:32] <webbb82> ok what am i lookin for on that page
[04:33] <sinclair86> thats what i was telling you about
[04:34] <webbb82> im at the page but it doesnt say anything bout netbooks
[04:34] <sinclair86> yes but you are having trouble with the 4.4 kde?
[04:35] <webbb82> oh i get it you ment install it along with gnome and 4.4 swiching between them at the login acreen?
[04:35] <emyller> hallo :)
[04:35] <sinclair86> OH
[04:35] <emyller> some kubuntu screenshots, http://tr.im/IDpH share :)
[04:35] <sinclair86> my bad... lol
[04:37] <sinclair86> you have both installed right now?
[04:38] <webbb82> ya
[04:39] <snarkster> anyone got any ideas what i need to view NNTP news
[04:40] <webbb82> ok i learned the netbook launcher works in 4.4 but how come when i installed itand logged in all i would se is the wallpaper and no netbook interface
[04:53] <Roasted_> Has anybody noticed in Kubuntu that if you change your screen resolution and reboot that it doesn't keep the setting?
[04:58] <Roasted_> I take it nobody else has noticed this but me?
[04:59] <sinclair86> oh shit sup roasted... got yer shit fixed since yesterday?
[05:00] <Roasted_> what was my problem yesterday?
[05:00] <sinclair86> you had to keep installing for some reason?
[05:00] <Roasted_> ummmmm
[05:01] <Roasted_> I had several problems yesterday
[05:01] <Roasted_> lol
[05:01] <Roasted_> just trying tot hink about which one I would have mentioned in here
[05:01] <Roasted_> what the
[05:01] <sinclair86> lol im not sure either was trying to help i know you gots 2 kubuntu computers... was it tyhe networking?
[05:01] <Roasted_> I just quit?
[05:01] <Roasted_> I dont believe so. Both computers are running though.
[05:01] <Roasted_> I dual booted them. XP and Kubuntu.
[05:02] <Roasted_> those suckers are faster than my own :(
[05:02] <Roasted_> I got double the cores but they have a faster core clock speed and DDR3 ram with some more speed
[05:02] <sinclair86> my servers i own are faster than my person pc... lol i turned all my desktop into servers and stuck myself with a p3 256 ram
[05:03] <Roasted_> llol, nice
[05:03] <Roasted_> I dont have any real "servers". my kubuntu desktop Im on has a pair of drives in it that are shared out for file services.
[05:03] <sinclair86> yea need a pratice enviroment im a systems admin for my work
[05:03] <Roasted_> 1 is shared, the 2nd is just a backup of the primary
[05:03] <Roasted_> hey have you ever messed around with resolution in kde?
[05:04] <Roasted_> I noticed a weird issue that Im kind of surprised exists
[05:04] <sinclair86> oh?
[05:04] <Roasted_> yeah - I change the resolution. Apply. Okay. Reboot.
[05:04] <Roasted_> Upon reboot it  goes back to native rez.
[05:04] <Roasted_> tested it ton 4 pcs
[05:04] <Roasted_> it on*
[05:04] <sinclair86> kde 4.4 or 4.3? all 9.10?
[05:04] <kaitos> Roasted_: yeah, kubuntu refuses to remember my dual monitor setup
[05:05] <Roasted_> kaitos - I didnt even bother trying to attack my dual monitor setup with KDE. I already had ubuntu on here so I just copied the xorg over.
[05:05] <Roasted_> sinclair86 - yeah theyre all 9.01 KDE 4.3.2
[05:06] <Roasted_> two nvidia cards, two intel cards. one intel is a laptop, one intel is a desktop. the two nvidia desktops are identical so I guess its just one that you can use for comparison reasons
[05:06] <sinclair86> eh weird... im glad i only have one res and thats 600 x 800
[05:06] <Roasted_> Im downloading opensuse now to slap on my spare rig (one of the 4) and see if its a KDE thing or Kubuntu thing.
[05:06] <Roasted_> 4 mins to go
[05:07] <sinclair86> its proably a ubuntu thing
[05:07] <Roasted_> which begs the obvious question - if kde is supposed to be more user friendly for newer linux users, why cant you do something so ungodly simple
[05:07] <sinclair86> kde is really not their priority..
[05:07] <Roasted_> sadly :(
[05:07] <Roasted_> whos top dog for a KDE distro?
[05:08] <sinclair86> no idea =\
[05:08] <kaitos> Roasted_: most people would say opensuse
[05:08] <Roasted_> it frustrates me because I love ubuntu, but I like KDE. So I was hoping to get best of both worlds. But little things in kubuntu can really irritate me
[05:09] <Roasted_> I heard the newer opensuse is pretty solid.
[05:09] <Roasted_> Ill find out in a minute or two when I intall it though
[05:09] <sinclair86> like i said when they release kubuntu a month after they release the gnome it just show where thier priorities lay
[05:09] <Roasted_> yeah
[05:09] <Roasted_> I like gnome a lot
[05:10] <sinclair86> fedora 12 kde is pretty sexy too
[05:10] <Roasted_> I switched to kde based on curiosity mostly. When I saw what gnome 3.0 was going to pump out I wanted to hurl and decided I'd stick with kubuntu.
[05:10] <Roasted_> is it?
[05:10] <sinclair86> but it rapes my little p3 :'(
[05:10] <sinclair86> yes
[05:10] <Roasted_> its just sad because distros like fedora, suse, etc. Their forums dont compare to ubuntu. :(
[05:10] <sinclair86> yes if i had a desktop i would have it installed right now
[05:10] <Roasted_> plus theyre RPM based....
[05:10] <Roasted_> which isnt a bad thing
[05:10] <sinclair86> true
[05:10] <Roasted_> I just like debian
[05:11] <Roasted_> like I feel like going to RPM would just neuter me
[05:11] <sinclair86> its pretty much the same instead of apt-get its yum
[05:12] <Roasted_> but doesnt debian have a ton more packages available?
[05:12] <sinclair86> yes
[05:12] <sinclair86> by far
[05:12] <Roasted_> gah
[05:12] <webbb82_> ok i got plasma-netbook to work but its just about more laggy aand slow than the normal plama-desktop
[05:12] <Roasted_> how about top dog for kde/debian?
[05:13] <sinclair86> haha thats actually waht we need... one of them over here...
[05:14] <Roasted_> my cousin stresses to me about how great fedora is
[05:14] <Roasted_> I should really give it a solid shot
[05:14] <sinclair86> you willnt be dissapointed esp if you like kde
[05:15] <Roasted_> yeah, I like KDE a lot.
[05:15] <Roasted_> I just dont want to go to an RPM distro and feel like I have nothing due to the lesser amount of packages being available.
[05:15] <Roasted_> but maybe thats just me being retarded
[05:15] <Roasted_> since I use very few out there, lol
[05:16] <sinclair86> they only thing that is a bitch in fedora that annoyed me is that they didnt have packages multimedia like how ubuntu has gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ugly and good
[05:17] <Roasted_> I dont even really know what thats about anyway. I just install medibuntu and thats it.
[05:17] <Roasted_> Hows that play out in fedora with multimedia codecs?
[05:17] <sinclair86> thats the word i was looking for
[05:17] <sinclair86> \the codecs
[05:17] <sinclair86> not multimedia
[05:18] <sinclair86> oh and you know ubuntu has apparmor well fedora has selunix
[05:19] <Roasted_> apparmor?
[05:19] <sinclair86> selinux*
[05:20] <Roasted_> I dont evekn ow what either one of those are :/
[05:20] <sinclair86> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor ubuntu does it for you but in fedora you kinda have to do it yourself
[05:20] <sinclair86> basicly
[05:21] <sinclair86> have you ever used vista
[05:21] <sinclair86> and its like click ok to run
[05:21] <sinclair86> those boxes?
[05:21] <Roasted_> click okay to run in terms of when you try to launch certain exe's?
[05:21] <Roasted_> wait
[05:21] <Roasted_> you mean the UAC
[05:22] <sinclair86> yea where its like allow or dissalow
[05:22] <Roasted_> that annoying effing "are you sure?" "no really, are you sure?" "you just clicked okay, are you sure?"
[05:22] <sinclair86> disallow
[05:22] <Roasted_> yeah I effing hate that thing
[05:22] <sinclair86> i suck at explaing stuff lol
[05:22] <sinclair86> brb cig
[05:22] <Roasted_> lol
[05:32] <sinclair86> do you knopw if it is possinble to run mutlitple kdes?
[05:32] <r00t_ninja> does this bug affect anyone else https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/495763 ?
[05:35] <sinclair86> not me
[05:36] <r00t_ninja> oh damn
[05:37] <kbntur> ddddd
[05:38] <sinclair86> altho
[05:38] <sinclair86> i have noticed it in serval other programs
[05:38] <kbntur> hi
[05:38] <sinclair86> hi
[05:41] <kbntur> my first experience.. ubuntu ^^;
[05:42] <sinclair86> kubuntu?
[05:42] <kbntur> yes kubuntu
[05:45] <kbntur> petsounds
[05:45] <petsounds> kbntur, hello there
[05:45] <kbntur> hello~
[05:48] <kbntur> many usr connections, but quiet ^^:;
[05:54] <petsounds> kbntur, maybe they're still sleep, you know different timezone, different places. :)
[05:54] <jc0694> how do connect my computer to a wireless network using kubuntu 9.04?
[05:54] <sinclair86> its is 1 am here.. lol
[05:54] <kbntur> oops.. ok thats '';
[05:54] <sinclair86> oh goodie a question
[05:55] <sinclair86> jc0694 is your card recognized?
[05:55] <sinclair86> you on kubuntu?
[05:56] <sinclair86> >_<
[05:56] <kbntur> um.. hhh
[05:57] <sinclair86> oh shit he is i didnt even see the end of his sentced... screen too small
[05:57] <jc0694> yes it is
[05:57] <jc0694> sinclair86, yes
[05:57] <sinclair86> have you ever used the wireless before?
[05:58] <sinclair86> you should just be able to click the little icon in the task back and lcik the wireless nextwork
[05:58] <jc0694> yes... i had it configured a couple of days ago by somebody in this forum... i powered off the pc and i thought it would automatically connect when i turned it back on but it doesn't auto connect... how do i connect manually?
[05:59] <sinclair86> did they set you up via knetworkmanager?
[05:59] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: tried what sinclair said?
[06:00] <tato42> is there anyway to config kwallet to store a password it keeps asking for it everytime i start my wireless
[06:00] <sinclair86> you can either diable it or leave the password black
[06:00] <jc0694> thanks... hold one sec please...
[06:00] <sinclair86> blank*
[06:01] <tato42> i tried that and it still ask me for it and when i click on cancel it won't hookup
[06:02] <r00t_ninja> is it asking for our wireless password or your kwallet password?
[06:03] <sinclair86> tato42 system settings > advance > kdewallet access control uncheck prompt when blah blah
[06:03] <tato42> it says kwallet password
[06:03] <tato42> ok thanks i'll try that
[06:04] <sinclair86> wait are you trying to disable it alltogether?
[06:05] <sinclair86> jc0694 any luck?
[06:06] <jc0694> no... i went to network management and i see the wireless network i want to connect to but it won't connect... any ideas?
[06:06] <jc0694> it worked a couple of days ago... not sure what's going on
[06:06] <sinclair86> sudo restart network-manager
[06:06] <r00t_ninja> are you setting the right encryption?
[06:06] <sinclair86> does it throw out any bugs?
[06:06] <tato42> cool thanks that did the job
[06:06] <sinclair86> np tato42
[06:07] <jc0694> sinclair86, i just booted up kubuntu like 5 minutes ago... i need to restart network manager using sudo?
[06:07] <jc0694> sinclair86, how do i restart nm with sudo?
[06:07] <sinclair86> yea its might have throw out errors at boot that you couldnt see
[06:08] <sinclair86> open up konsole
[06:08] <jc0694> ok...
[06:08] <sinclair86> alt+f2 type konsole
[06:09] <jc0694> ok
[06:10] <sinclair86> any errors?
[06:10] <jc0694> no... the konsole is open
[06:11] <sinclair86> did you type "sudo restart network-manager"
[06:12] <jc0694> says the "sudo restart" command not found
[06:12] <sinclair86> of shit you on 9.04?
[06:12] <jc0694> yes
[06:13] <sinclair86> sudo /etc/init.d/knetwork-manager
[06:13] <sinclair86> wait
[06:13] <sinclair86> sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[06:17] <jc0694> there is no file called "network-manager" in init.d.  however, there's a file called NetworkManager in init.d.  is this the file you want me to restart?
[06:17] <sinclair86> yes thats what i was looking
[06:18] <sinclair86> they changed from the v system to upstart in 9.10
[06:18] <jc0694> it's done
[06:18] <jc0694> no errors
[06:18] <sinclair86> kk
[06:18] <sinclair86> output of "iwlist scan"
[06:18] <sinclair86> does it show you your ap?
[06:21] <jc0694> ... let me take a step back for  sec... i think the problem may be something else... when i go to hardware drivers it says that my broadcomm sta wireless adapter is activated but currently not in use... i do i make it "in use"
[06:21] <sinclair86> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up      ?
[06:22] <jc0694> you can't do this from a gui?
[06:22] <sinclair86> im a command line kind of less searching to go thru
[06:22] <sinclair86> kind of guy*
[06:23] <OpenSorce> sinclair86, props for that :-)
[06:23] <sinclair86> i hate searching thru gui seetings unless its one click to connect
[06:24] <jc0694> but i think it's really simple to activate it by gui... i can't see myself going through this everytime i turn on my laptop
[06:25] <sinclair86> yes but if ifgure out what happened i can help you thru it so it doesnt happen again
[06:25] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: you wont have to , this is for debugging im guessing
[06:27] <sinclair86> OMG WAIT
[06:27] <sinclair86> jc0694
[06:28] <jc0694> yep
[06:28] <sinclair86> i just realized ive had this problem before
[06:28] <sinclair86> does you kde session save on logout?
[06:29] <jc0694> i'm not sure
[06:29] <sinclair86> meaning if you leave programs opened on netboot they are just as you left them?
[06:29] <sinclair86> next boot*
[06:29] <jc0694> don't know... how do i check... that would be useful
[06:31] <r00t_ninja> go into system settings
[06:31] <r00t_ninja> advanced
[06:31] <r00t_ninja> Session Manager
[06:31] <sinclair86> haha thanks thats what i was looking for </3 gui
[06:32] <sinclair86> does it say start from pervios session?
[06:32] <jc0694> yes... it says restore previous session
[06:33] <sinclair86> niced
[06:33] <sinclair86> you have the same bug i did
[06:33] <sinclair86> click start empty session and reboot
[06:33] <sinclair86> you should be good
[06:34] <jc0694> u don't want to restore from previous session?  that seems like what i want... it was configured last session so i want it to stay configured for each session after that.  wouldn't an empty session be starting everything over again?
[06:34] <sinclair86> no no
[06:34] <sinclair86> it mean
[06:35] <sinclair86> if you have like programs running when you reboot you will boot with tem back opened
[06:35] <jc0694> ok... so select empty session and then reboot?
[06:35] <sinclair86> yes
[06:39] <sinclair86> yo jc0694 brb cig break
[06:44] <sinclair86> any luck?
[06:45] <jc0694> no... i've my wireless tab on network management is now grayed out... do i have to start all over again reinstalling the drivers?
[06:45] <jc0694> that was an amazing nightmare
[06:46] <sinclair86> no
[06:46] <r00t_ninja> any reason you arnt using 9.10 ?
[06:48] <jc0694> no... i can upgrade if u think it's worth it... i'm just trying to limit upgrading every single time an update comes out since each update runs a risk for messing things up... is this true?
[06:48] <sinclair86> depends
[06:49] <sinclair86> just do me a fav and humor me just to see where you stand "sudo lspci | grep "network" and "sudo ifconfig"
[06:49] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: yes however since you are not using a LTS release you should update
[06:51] <sinclair86> grep "Network" *
[06:52] <jc0694> what's the exact command and what directory do i need to be in?
[06:52] <sinclair86> doesnt matter the directory
[06:52] <sinclair86> and the first command i would like to see is
[06:52] <sinclair86> sudo lspci | grep "Network"
[06:52] <sinclair86> second
[06:52] <sinclair86> ifconfig
[06:54] <jc0694> first command says something about network controller: broadcom corp BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[06:54] <sinclair86> kk thats good
[06:54] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: do you have alternative internet access?
[06:54] <sinclair86> the second one im just looking for ath0 or wlan0
[06:55] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: if so check for proprietary drivers in applications -> system -> hardware drivers
[06:55] <jc0694> ya... i get something for etho and lo too... what specifically are u looking for
[06:56] <sinclair86> wlan0 or ath0
[06:57] <jc0694> it just has indentations for "etho" and "lo"... there is no listing for wlan0 or ath0
[06:57] <kbntur> kor...
[06:57] <sinclair86> k
[06:57] <sinclair86> try
[06:57] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: did you try what i said?
[06:58] <sinclair86> if hes on command line he could just do sudo lshw -C network
[06:58] <sinclair86> if the ifcae doesnt go up its the driver
[06:58] <sinclair86> i was just going to see if it was down forst before checking the the driver
[06:58] <jc0694> r00t_ninja, it only says something about my broadomm wireless sta being activated but currently not in use
[06:59] <r00t_ninja> is this a laptop?
[06:59] <sinclair86> yea
[06:59] <jc0694> r00t_ninja, yes
[06:59] <r00t_ninja> make sure your wireless is turned on lol
[06:59] <sinclair86> omg!
[06:59] <sinclair86> im and idiot
[06:59] <sinclair86> like right click it and enable wireless
[06:59] <jc0694> i don't understand this... i installed the driver and it was working... how could this be the driver again?
[07:00] <sinclair86> an*
[07:00] <jc0694> how do i enable... that's what i've been saying... it says activated but currently not in use
[07:01] <sinclair86> right click on the nm icon and click enable wireles
[07:01] <sinclair86> ?
[07:01] <sinclair86> is it checked?
[07:02] <jc0694> that's not an option when right clicked... all i show are "manage connections", "network management settings", "panel options" and "remove this network management ctrl + R"
[07:03] <sinclair86> ok
[07:03] <jc0694> as stated when i click "manage connections" i can't click the wireless tab because it's greyed out...
[07:04] <sinclair86> sudo lshw -C network
[07:05] <Roasted_> whats up sinclair86
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: open up a terminal and type/copy and paste "sudo apt-get reinstall b43-fwcutter
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: open up a terminal and type/copy and paste "sudo apt-get reinstall b43-fwcutter"
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: open up a terminal and type/copy and paste "sudo apt-get install --reinstall b43-fwcutter"
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> sorry
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> typos etc
[07:05] <jc0694> let me save this and show u what i see
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> then reboot
[07:05] <gp> karmic koula sucks
[07:05] <Roasted_> koala? lol?
[07:06] <gp> why o why did i updrade
[07:06] <r00t_ninja> that will make sure your wireless cards firmware is installed
[07:06] <Roasted_> clearly your spelling sucks. troll.
[07:06] <Roasted_> gp - I wont lie. karmic gave me a headache too.
[07:06] <Roasted_> tried installing it on 5 computers. only 1 worked right.
[07:06] <gp> i am not able to get resolttuion  right on karmic
[07:07] <gp> but it was working perfectly before updrading
[07:09] <jc0694> http://pastebin.ca/1727316
[07:09] <petsounds> gp, sometimes the latest version is not the best ;)
[07:10] <Roasted_> gp - I too dropped back to jaunty after checking out karmic.
[07:10] <jc0694> sinclair86, u still there?
[07:10] <sinclair86> yuea looking at it
[07:10] <Roasted_> I hate to say it, but karmic is the "vista" of ubuntu. Works great for few. Headaches to most.
[07:10] <gp> how do i do that without reinstalling
[07:10] <Roasted_> gp - ehh I dont know bro. I reinstalled...
[07:10] <Roasted_> gp - I had my partitions split, so I just dumped root and put jaunty back on top, leaving home untouched.
[07:11] <r00t_ninja> im fairly sure ubuntu will keep your existing home folder
[07:11] <r00t_ninja> also gp: what graphics card
[07:11] <Roasted_> r00t_ninja - only if its partitioned separately.
[07:11] <r00t_ninja> Roasted_: im fairly sure even if its not
[07:11] <sinclair86> k jc0694 almost done
[07:11] <jc0694> so are the drivers installed?
[07:11] <Roasted_> r00t_ninja - if its all 1 partition, home is lumped in with root. If you format root and put jaunty on top, you lose everything, home included.
[07:12] <gp>  VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02)
[07:12] <r00t_ninja> Roasted_: i saw a blog post on it revently
[07:12] <gp> my system HP proliant ML110 G5
[07:12] <Roasted_> r00t_ninja - Im sure it may be possible if you DONT format it and just dump the OS on top, maybe it creates a .old file for it. But if you select format + install, you're fried.
[07:13] <sinclair86> they installed to see if they are activated i need to see the output of "sudo lsmod"
[07:13] <jc0694> hold a sec...
[07:13] <sinclair86> not activated but loaded
[07:13] <sinclair86> in the kernel
[07:14] <jc0694> http://pastebin.ca/1727319
[07:15] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: reboot and the hardware detection should take care of it.
[07:16] <sinclair86> it didnt tho that was the thing
[07:16] <jc0694> i tried that before... didn't work
[07:16] <jc0694> so are the drivers installed?
[07:16] <sinclair86> h/o looking
[07:16] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: go into hardware drivers and remove that driver
[07:17] <jc0694> canNOT do... that driver took me forever to install and it did finally work... i need another solution
[07:17] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: its easy to reinstall trust me
[07:18] <r00t_ninja> you just go back into there click it and click activate
[07:18] <jc0694> trust me... i remember installing that driver... hahahahah
[07:18] <sinclair86> sudo modprob b43-pci-bridge
[07:18] <r00t_ninja> fine whatever
[07:19] <r00t_ninja> im willing to bet those trouble installing it before were due to repos that hadn't been refreshed but ?
[07:19] <sinclair86> talking about apt-get update?
[07:20] <jc0694> guys, thanks for all your help, but i don't think we're on the right path here... i don't think there is anything wrong with the device or the driver... it's only a simple matter of turning it on
[07:20] <sinclair86> out put of lsmod didnt show the driver of lcshw
[07:21] <FarOut> trust r00t_ninja
[07:21] <jc0694> ... but i intalled the driver and it worked 2 bootups ago... how could the driver be bad?
[07:21] <sinclair86> not bad
[07:21] <sinclair86> bug in saved session -> nm reboot
[07:23] <jc0694> do u agree with r00t_ninja (i.e. remove the driver and reinstall?)
[07:24] <sinclair86> yes
[07:24] <sinclair86> you have the driver but its not loaded in the kernel
[07:24] <r00t_ninja> any one here using a lcd screen with a 1440 x 900 w/96 dpi have good font settings?
[07:25] <jc0694> will i have to follow the steps from the manufacturer again to reinstall or is there a very simple way to install a previously installed driver?
[07:25] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: to install the broadcom driver you just go into hardware drivers
[07:26] <r00t_ninja> you dont need to follow the manufacture steps
[07:26] <r00t_ninja> there made to be generic to any linux distribution
[07:28] <jc0694> i'm saying that because the manufacture insructions actually didn't even work... somebody here finally proposed a work around that solved the problem and i forgot what that was now
[07:28] <sinclair86> your wifi didnt work straight of the box?
[07:28] <sinclair86> fresh install?
[07:29] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: it will work , i have a similar card in my other desktop
[07:29] <jc0694> no... broadcomm only recently started offering support for their wireless devices and my laptop was manufactured in 2008
[07:30] <r00t_ninja> sinclair86: the broadcom firmware is proprietary
[07:30] <jc0694> linux support that is
[07:30] <r00t_ninja> so no it isnt
[07:30] <sinclair86> ah fuck forgot i was using backtrack when i had my broadcom so it was already loaded
[07:30] <jc0694> they support their windows stuff well but with linux it's kinda "you're on your own/use at your own risk"
[07:31] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: yea , if you have some other way to connect to the internet in ubuntu its easy to install them
[07:32] <jc0694> here's the path to the directions: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[07:33] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: did you do the blacklisting part?
[07:33] <r00t_ninja> if so i suggest you undo it
[07:34] <r00t_ninja> pastebin /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if you are not sure
[07:37] <jc0694> i can't remember... that command doesn't look familiar so i don't think i did
[07:37] <r00t_ninja> ok
[07:38] <r00t_ninja> have you removed those drivers?
[07:39] <sinclair86> ssb was loaded but the bcm one wasnt
[07:39] <sinclair86> he has ohci1394 instead
[07:40] <jc0694> ya i think so... it was like a month ago when i tried to follow the directions initially to no success... it was only like 2 days ago i finally got it working
[07:40] <jc0694> brb in a min. or 2
[07:40] <r00t_ninja> ok
[07:41] <sinclair86> damn there some nasty bitches on jerry right now
[07:42] <sinclair86> title of the show is getting pregnant with a turkey baster
[07:54] <sinclair86> yo r00t you still here?
[07:54] <jc0694> i'm back
[07:54] <sinclair86> wb
[07:54] <r00t_ninja> yea im here
[07:55] <jc0694> thx
[07:55] <r00t_ninja> ?
[07:55] <petsounds> hi does anybody here notice slow connections to launchpad?
[07:55] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: did you remove that driver?
[07:55] <sinclair86> wait
[07:55] <jc0694> i can't remember... its been a while
[07:56] <sinclair86> you talking about the driver he has right now?
[07:56] <r00t_ninja> your wireless isnt working right?
[07:57] <jc0694> no i haven't uninstalled anything yet today
[07:59] <r00t_ninja> ok go into application - system -> hardware drivers and remove the broadcom driver
[07:59] <jc0694> assuming we do get this fixed, do i have any type of guarantee that i won't have to redo everything again once i turn my computer off and on again?
[07:59] <sinclair86> yes
[07:59] <sinclair86> since you truned off saved sessions
[07:59] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: yes , the driver will be properly installed
[07:59] <sinclair86> r00t
[08:00] <sinclair86> it was installed right but there is a bug with wirless nm and saved sessions
[08:00] <sinclair86> i had the same thing happen
[08:00] <jc0694> do you mean deactivate? that's the only option i see... it's on the same gui where it says the driver is actived but not currently in use
[08:00] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: yes deactivate
[08:01] <r00t_ninja> sinclair86: that would not cause the kernel module to not be loaded
[08:01] <jc0694> its been deactivated
[08:01] <sinclair86> but it stops the wireless gui from connecting wasnt talking about the loading of it
[08:01] <sinclair86> and thats what he was ultimately going after
[08:02] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: ok now reboot
[08:02] <jc0694> before i do this, how exactly will i reactivate the driver again?
[08:03] <r00t_ninja> by going into hardware drivers
[08:03] <r00t_ninja> selecting it and clicking activate
[08:03] <jc0694> oh... ok
[08:05] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: make sure to reboot in between
[08:06] <jc0694> it's rebooting now
[08:06] <r00t_ninja> ok
[08:08] <jc0694> it's rebooted
[08:09] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: ok , can you enable wireless?
[08:10] <r00t_ninja> (im guessing not but just check)
[08:10] <ozi> anyone can help install wine with network ?
[08:10] <r00t_ninja> ozi: what do you mean "with network"
[08:10] <ozi> game multiplayer
[08:10] <ozi> not work
[08:10] <r00t_ninja> oh , what game?
[08:10] <ozi> mm
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> mm?
[08:11] <jc0694> do you mean activate the driver?
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> no
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> right click on the network icon
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> and tick enable wireless
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> if its there that is
[08:12] <jc0694> the wireless tab is still greyed out
[08:12] <ozi> its not the games actually tp office applications with network
[08:12] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: ok now go into hardware drivers
[08:12] <ozi> ok
[08:12] <ozi> then
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> ozi: not you
[08:13] <ozi> :D
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> whats tp office?
[08:13] <jc0694> i'm there
[08:13] <ozi> sory for my poor engglish
[08:14] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: is the broadcom driver offered>
[08:14] <r00t_ninja> ?
[08:14] <ozi> example ms office
[08:14] <ozi> open file
[08:14] <jc0694> yes... it says the driver is not activated
[08:14] <ozi> form network
[08:15] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: ok now click it and then click activate
[08:15] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: is it now downloding and installing?
[08:15] <jc0694> downloading and installing driver...
[08:16] <r00t_ninja> ok
[08:16] <petsounds> ozi, what are you trying to achieve? please explain in one line.
[08:16] <jc0694> ok... good, says the driver is activated and in use
[08:16] <ozi>  i have install ms office
[08:17] <ozi> with wine
[08:17] <sinclair86> why dont you use open office?
[08:17] <ozi> i must learn
[08:17] <ozi> :D
[08:18] <jc0694> however, when i go and mange my network connections the wireless tab is stilled greyed out
[08:18] <r00t_ninja> jc0694:  you will need to reboot after you have installed the driver
[08:18] <jc0694> so reboot again?
[08:18] <r00t_ninja> yes
[08:19] <r00t_ninja> there are ways to load the driver without rebooting but rebooting is the easiest
[08:20] <sinclair86> lol modprode aint that hard..?
[08:21] <jc0694> now what?
[08:21] <r00t_ninja> ok can you enable your wireless?
[08:24] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: you there?
[08:25] <jc0694> ok... i think it's enabled... still can't open internet
[08:26] <sinclair86> ifconfig
[08:26] <jc0694> is there a way to tell if your connected to a particular network
[08:26] <r00t_ninja> jc0694: right click on the network icon
[08:26] <r00t_ninja> and click "manage connections"
[08:26] <r00t_ninja> can you go into the wireless tab?
[08:27] <jc0694> ya... i'm there but it's not showing whether i'm currently connected... in fact it says the connection was last used "never"... it's not telling me status, it's only listing networks that may have been used before
[08:28] <r00t_ninja> oh just click on the icon
[08:28] <r00t_ninja> (left click)
[08:28] <jc0694> what icon?
[08:28] <r00t_ninja> the network icon in your system tray
[08:29] <jc0694> oh... gotcha... it's on the wrong network (or trying to get on the wrong network)
[08:29] <r00t_ninja> ok
[08:29] <r00t_ninja> tell me once you have it working
[08:30] <jc0694> u the man!... sorry for doubting you earlier
[08:30] <r00t_ninja> lol np
[08:31] <r00t_ninja> do you want to know how to have it auto connect? (its fairly easy)
[08:31] <jc0694> yes
[08:31] <r00t_ninja> right click on the network icon and go manage connections
[08:31] <r00t_ninja> go into the wireless tab
[08:32] <jc0694> think i figured it out... i see the connect auto box
[08:32] <r00t_ninja> select the network you want to auto connect and then click edit
[08:32] <r00t_ninja> yea thats it
[08:32] <jc0694> so if i turn my computer off and back on again it should connect automatically without me doing anything right?
[08:32] <r00t_ninja> yes
[08:35] <jc0694> yep... it's as u say
[08:45] <sinclair86> yo jc0694 you still here?
[08:47] <sinclair86> >_<
[08:49] <petsounds> it's raining all day. i can't go anywhere :(
[08:50] <sinclair86> its still night.... soooo  you still have some time
[08:50] <petsounds> it's 4 pm here
[09:43] <bolla> is there anyone who got a copy o Apollo - Adjø? Norwegian track... been on P an G search for too long now:P:P
[09:53] <replman> Hi! How can i install thunderbird3 on my kubuntu?
[10:09] <INIT_61> Trying to setup Internet Sharing. Using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 When trying to install ipmasq it says it's not there. How do I found out what the new file is?
[10:10] <INIT_61> exact error: root@Lappy:~# apt-get install ipmasq
[10:10] <INIT_61> Reading package lists... Done
[10:10] <INIT_61> Building dependency tree
[10:10] <INIT_61> Reading state information... Done
[10:10] <INIT_61> Package ipmasq is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:10] <FloodBotK1> INIT_61: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <INIT_61> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:10] <INIT_61> Sorry about the flood
[10:28] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i need to convert a directory that contains 1.6GB of data to an iso image. I am trying with K3b but the "Burn" button stays disabled. Can anyone help?
[10:29] <naftilos76> anyone?
[10:29] <tsimpson> naftilos76: you need to check the "Only create image" box
[10:29] <naftilos76> let me see that!
[10:30] <naftilos76> thnks
[10:30] <tsimpson> :)
[10:31] <naftilos76> Chesus! it was in front of me! thanks man!
[10:56] <Amorgos> hi
[10:56] <Amorgos> i need to access a folder from the gui
[10:56] <Amorgos> but it says restricted
[10:56] <Amorgos> how do i get root privilages in my gui
[10:58] <Amorgos> it says permission denied
[10:58] <Amorgos> HEY
[10:58] <przemas1> hey
[10:58] <Amorgos> kubuntu needs support
[10:59] <przemas1> support?
[10:59] <Amorgos> this channel doesnt help
[10:59] <Amorgos> ubunoobs
[11:02] <tsimpson> Amorgos: your attitude does not inspire me to help you, but I will anyway
[11:02] <tsimpson> you run "kdesudo dolphin"
[11:03] <Amorgos> ok thanks
[11:03] <Amorgos> i forgot it
[11:03] <Amorgos> or sudo dolphin?
[11:03] <Amorgos> works
[11:03] <tsimpson> no, not sudo
[11:03] <tsimpson> !kdesu
[11:04] <Amorgos> ok got it
[11:04] <Amorgos> thanks
[11:08] <roam> I use Kaffeine. I can't resize it vertically and it's wasting a lot of space, that isn't used, even with movies with 16:9 aspect. How can I change that?
[11:16] <shadeslayer> roam: tried dragon player?
[11:16] <shadeslayer> roam: btw i can resize just fine
[11:17] <roam> shadeslayer: I can't with the kaffeine from karmic
[11:19] <shadeslayer> roam: no idea why that would happen
[11:19] <shadeslayer> roam: automatic resize is off right?
[11:23] <roam> shadeslayer: yes
[11:23] <roam> is off
[11:23] <shadeslayer> roam: no other thing i can think of :)
[11:23] <roam> kaffeine also writes the following in my config file:
[11:23] <shadeslayer> roam: try removing the kaffeine config fi;e
[11:23] <roam> Width 1400=1530
[11:24] <roam> which seem too much
[11:24] <roam> it
[11:24] <roam> s wider than the screen
[11:24] <shadeslayer> roam: try the kaffeine room
[11:24] <shadeslayer> #kaffeine
[11:26] <roam> shadeslayer: didn't know about that channel. Good idea
[11:35] <roam> the other problem I have is: when update-notifier updates the package descriptions, it als download german translations. I would like to disable that, since I'm often online via gprs and it blocks the connection for ten minutes.
[11:36] <roam> how can I disable the download of german traslations of the package descriptions?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> roam: dont select them in the upgrades
[11:37] <roam> shadeslayer: it downloads them on up_dates_
[11:38] <shadeslayer> roam:theres an arrow besides the upgrades... it should allow you to deselect the upgrade
[11:40] <roam> shadeslayer: it downloads them when it get's the new package descriptions before it prompts for the upgrade.
[11:42] <shadeslayer> roam: check the updates tab in the kpackagekit settings
[11:42] <shadeslayer> check the automatic updates section
[11:44] <shadeslayer_> bbl
[11:44] <roam> there is nothing there, where I can disable getting the translations.
[11:44] <roam> cu
[11:45] <shadeslayer_> roam: set the radio box to : do not automatically download updates
[11:45] <shadeslayer_> roam: i mean : only notify about upgrades
[11:45] <roam> shadeslayer_: I already have that
[11:45] <shadeslayer_> roam: hmm... then no idea... keep asking :P
[11:46] <shadeslayer_> cya
[11:46] <roam> the files are part of the stuff that get's downloaded before the notification
[11:51] <ubuntu> hi
[11:52] <Tomaros> i am using kubuntu livecd on a windows machine, and i my question. how to mount and access the ntfs partitions?
[11:54] <Tomaros> please
[11:55] <Tomaros> i am stuck
[11:58] <Tomaros> HELP
[11:59] <Mamarok> !patience | Tomaros
[12:02] <Tomaros> says invalid mount option: the option "locale=en_usutf8" is not allowed for uid=999
[12:02] <Tomaros> says this
[12:02] <Tomaros> when i try to automount it
[12:03] <Tomaros> Mamarok:
[12:04] <roam> when I set LANG=C it doesn't download the descriptions
[12:04] <Mamarok> Tomaros: please don't ping me, I can't help you, and please be patient, it is holiday time in the western world, so many are away
[12:04] <roam> where can I set the language of aptitude?
[12:05] <roam> Tomaros: you might need to mount it as root
[12:05] <Tomaros> how?
[12:05] <Tomaros> someone told me to use ntfs-config tool
[12:06] <roam> how do you mount it now?
[12:06] <Tomaros> i just go to places
[12:06] <roam> open a terminal, calles "konsole" in KDE
[12:06] <roam> called
[12:06] <roam> type sudo su -
[12:06] <Wolfcastle> hello
[12:07] <Wolfcastle> I'm having problems with strigi/nepomuk
[12:07] <Wolfcastle> seems strigi is working fine but not nepomuk
[12:07] <roam> then you're root
[12:07] <Wolfcastle> since searches in krunner or dolphin yield no results
[12:07] <Wolfcastle> but with strigiclient it works
[12:07] <Wolfcastle> any ideas?
[12:07] <roam> then you can mount your partition with 'mount /dev/sda1 /media/' f.i.
[12:08] <roam> you nee to change the "sda1" according to your actual partition and the "/media" to your actual mountpoint
[12:09] <|sysop|> hi where can I find libstdc++5 libstdc++5-3.3-dev or gcc 3.3 for 9.10?
[12:10] <|sysop|> for power c
[12:10] <|sysop|> pc?
[12:17] <akihu> Hi all, Ive a 1920 by 1200 monitor with intel card, and Im only getting 1600x1200. systemsettigns gives no bigger option, how do I fix?
[12:21] <shadeslayer_> !X
[12:21] <shadeslayer_> !res | akihu
[12:22] <shadeslayer__> !res | akihu
[12:22] <akihu> jes jes, Im looking...
[12:23] <shadeslayer_> akihu: i got disconnected...
[12:28] <soee> hi
[13:10] <Blurists> Hi
[13:10] <Wolfcastle> hello
[13:10] <Blurists> how to transfer data between 2 machines with kubuntu?
[13:10] <Wolfcastle> good morning
[13:11] <Wolfcastle> nfs should do the trick
[13:11] <Blurists> nfs?
[13:11] <Dragnslcr> scp is probably the easiest
[13:11] <Blurists> i get errors with it
[13:12] <Blurists> cant i go to network
[13:12] <Blurists> in places?
[13:12] <Blurists> remote://network
[13:13] <gp> I HATE KARMIC KOAAAALAAA
[13:13] <gp> POS CRAP WASTE OF time
[13:13] <maco> ?
[13:13] <maco> thats not terribly specific. or very lowercase.
[13:14] <gp> sorry gentlemen ......now i feel bettter
[13:14] <maco> gentlemen?
[13:14]  * maco looks at Mamarok
[13:14] <heinkel_111> how can i find the gateway ip for my network connection?
[13:14] <maco> we're men?
[13:14] <gp> dudes
[13:14] <gp> aliens ??
[13:14] <gp> geeks?
[13:14] <gp> gorks
[13:14] <gp> borgs
[13:15] <maco> heh
[13:15] <maco> dudes & dudettes?
[13:15] <gp> dudettes ....do chics also use *nix ?
[13:16] <maco> given the existence of LinuxChix....yes!
[13:16] <gp> i never seen one in my life
[13:16] <maco> and ya know....knowing my own gender
[13:16] <Wolfcastle> but they are a minority
[13:16] <Wolfcastle> I'm afraid
[13:16] <lilyshu> gp, maco is a girl
[13:16] <maco> so is Mamarok...pretty obvious nick...i mean "Mama"....
[13:16] <gp> maco: were you forced to *nix ?
[13:16] <maco> of course not
[13:16] <maco> i'm an ubuntu developer :P
[13:17] <Wolfcastle> i thought about amarok :-p
[13:17] <maco> Wolfcastle: yeah she's a mama and into amarok
[13:17] <gp> dudete who uses *nix and is developer too !!
[13:17] <Wolfcastle> ah i see good nick then
[13:17] <maco> Wolfcastle: yeah i thought it was cute
[13:17] <maco> gp: why is this surprising?
[13:18] <gp> bcos u rare species
[13:18] <maco> i mean, there are more dudes, but...rather silly to think there couldnt be dudettes
[13:18] <maco> and in a project this size that there wouldn't be at least one female developer
[13:18] <heinkel_111> how can i find the gateway ip for my network connection?
[13:18] <maco> (there are 4)
[13:18] <maco> heinkel_111: do you want to find out what its currently set to? "route -n"
[13:19] <maco> if you want to find out what it *should* be set to...thats a harder question
[13:19] <gp> usually chicks are into documentation , UI or testing
[13:20] <heinkel_111> maco: I have  a working setup when i connect to internet using my modem, but when i try to plug my router in between, i dont have the right configuration, so i want to figure out when connecting directly, using my modem, what the gatteway is, and set it likewise for the router
[13:21] <gp> just to a trace route
[13:22] <gp> anybody has anuy experince of making this video card driver ->>>> Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02)
[13:22] <maco> heinkel_111: is your router getting an IP from the modem? some modems lock onto the MAC address of whatever machine they are first connected to until theyve been power-cycled. it generally appears like what you're saying when thats the problem
[13:23] <heinkel_111> Destination 0.0.0.0 Gateway 189.32.160.1 Genmask 0.0.0.0 Flags UG ....etc <--- does this mean 189.32.160.1 is the gateway?
[13:23] <heinkel_111> i am slightly confused by the 0.0.0.0 destination
[13:23] <heinkel_111> means everywhere or nowhere?
[13:23] <maco> heinkel_111: 0.0.0.0 means "default route"
[13:23] <heinkel_111> ok :) thanks maco
[13:23] <gp> anybody has anuy experince of making this video card driver ->>>> Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02)
[13:24] <gp> i not able to get optimum resoltion
[13:24] <gp> resolution
[13:24] <heinkel_111> i will try to reconfigure my router again (abouth 5th ttry ;)
[13:25] <gp> i updated my box from drapper to karmic Krap Koala ...display stopped working
[13:26] <maco> gp: #ubuntu is more likely to have someone experienced with that hardware
[13:26] <maco> or ubuntuforums.org
[13:26] <maco> i need to recommend the forums more....i'm a moderator :P
[13:27] <gp> maco ......does hp and ubuntu have some kind of deal like RH
[13:27] <maco> only for the HP Mini Mi
[13:27] <gp> i am running KK on HP proliant ML110 server
[13:28] <gp> not for servers ?
[13:28] <maco> ooh i dunno about that
[13:28] <maco> i was just thinking of consumer hardware
[13:28] <maco> i dont work for canonical, so i dont keep up on all the businessy stuff
[13:31] <gp> maco : are you qt developer ?
[13:31] <maco> no
[13:31] <gp> gtk ?
[13:31] <maco> yeah
[13:31] <maco> i need to get around to learning Qt since i switched from gnome to kde
[13:32] <maco> oh and please interpret as "i am a developer who can use gtk" NOT "i develop gtk"
[13:32] <maco> im not that 1337 ;-)
[13:32] <gp> oks
[13:37] <apparle> how to write a patch file?
[13:37] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems apparle
[13:38] <apparle> I am getting the this error while make alsa-driver 'make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/apparle/alsa-driver-1.0.20+dfsg/alsa-kernel/pci/maestro3.c', needed by `maestro3.c'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/apparle/alsa-driver-1.0.20+dfsg/pci' make[1]: *** [dep] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/apparle/alsa-driver-1.0.20+dfsg' make: *** [include/sndversions.h] Error 2'
[13:41] <apparle> I am getting this error while I make alsa-driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/347009/ plz help
[13:41] <maco> why are you building the alsa-driver source?
[13:42] <maco> if you just want a newer version of alsa, install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[13:42] <lilyshu> hi. i don't understand why sun-java is not working with some browser like ff, g chrome, and arora. and only openjdk is working. i try this in two laptops and in one pc and the result just the same. :(
[13:42] <maco> because openjdk is awesomer?
[13:43] <maco> apparle: hello?
[13:44] <apparle> maco: Actually I want to write a patch for my own device which is not working with normal driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/498863
[13:44] <maco> apparle: i see. your patch should be against the linux kernel then
[13:44] <lilyshu> maco, openjdk is only working in firefox, the other browser can't load the applet, and do you know how to fix this? :(
[13:45] <maco> lilyshu: no, sorry
[13:45] <apparle> maco: Howcome... shouldn't the file atiixp.c from alsadriver be patched?
[13:46] <simo_> hello world !!
[13:46] <maco> alsa-driver is not a package normally installed...  the drivers are in the kernel itself.  i forget what that package is for, actually... :-/
[13:46] <simo_> i'm asking if i install a windows7, i will loose the kununtu's Lilo?
[13:46] <maco> simo_: yes. windows will overwrite the MBR, and there's no way to stop it
[13:47] <maco> you can reinstall grub or lilo from a cd
[13:47] <lilyshu> maco, ok np
[13:47] <simo_> so how can i recorver it withowt loose my linux's data ?
[13:48] <maco> simo_: boot from a cd and issue whatever commands install lilo. ive never used lilo, only grub, so i cant be much more helpful than that
[13:48] <simo_> grup ?
[13:48] <simo_> and how can i install it ?
[13:49] <maco> grub and lilo are two bootloaders
[13:49] <simo_> yes
[13:49] <simo_> how can i install grup ?
[13:50] <maco> the "grub-install" command
[13:50] <maco> its a b not a p
[13:50] <simo_> now i will install a windows 7
[13:51] <simo_> i will boot from the kubuntu's live cd
[13:51] <simo_> and install a grub-install
[13:51] <simo_> that all ?
[13:51] <simo_> and that will be working 100%?
[13:51] <maco> "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" should do it, i think
[13:51] <maco> if it gives you trouble, you can always get on irc from the live cd
[13:52] <apparle> maco: I am having a similar problem as here http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7467#c30 So I think I must add my subvendor and subdevice to the atiixp.c file to automatically take the ac97_codec parameter
[13:52] <simo_> iec waht's this ?
[13:52] <maco> apparle: so just adding an entry to the quirks table? thats simple enough. ive done that :)
[13:52] <maco> simo_: irc is the chat thingy youre using right now
[13:52] <maco> simo_: internet relay chat
[13:53] <apparle> maco: ya that's why I am trying to compile the alsa-driver and getting the error I mentioned above
[13:53] <simo_> amm yes
[13:53] <simo_> :)
[13:53] <maco> apparle: really, id just edit the kernel source and recompile *that*
[13:53] <maco> or do it against the git.ubuntu.com source...thats how i did mine
[13:54] <simo_> what's the diferent with lilo and grub ?
[13:54] <maco> grub is the usual default
[13:54] <maco> grub1 didnt require recompiling like lilo does
[13:54] <apparle> maco: I am not a developer so  I don't know these things... could you guide me a little
[13:54] <maco> i shouldnt say recompiling
[13:55] <maco> it didnt require that you run a reconfigure command after editing
[13:55] <maco> grub2 does though, so *shrug*
[13:56] <simo_> i don't undertand very well realy
[13:56] <simo_> so lilo is a gru
[13:56] <simo_> b
[13:57] <maco> apparle: git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git
[13:57] <maco> simo_: no.
[13:58] <maco> simo_: lilo and grub are two options. grub is ubuntu's default, unless you have lvm, in which case lilo has always been default
[13:58] <maco> because grub version 1 couldnt do lvm
[13:59] <simo_> lvm ?
[13:59] <apparle> maco: that goes in terminal right? and I would have to install git for that isn't it?
[14:00] <maco> apparle: git-core is the package
[14:00] <maco> simo_: linux volume manager
[14:00] <ScreamOfSilence_> hello i've a problem
[14:00] <simo_> amm
[14:01] <ScreamOfSilence_> I've deleted subfolders in "Games" in menu editor. Now, when i install a game i can't see it in the menu..
[14:01] <apparle> maco: downloading.... till then what will be the next steps
[14:03] <soee> ScreamOfSilence_: check maybe they are in Lost and Found folder
[14:03] <ScreamOfSilence_> no, they aren't :(
[14:05] <simo_> macro: now can i install a grub and move a lilo?
[14:06] <simo_> what's one is better ?
[14:07] <apparle> maco: I am getting this error
[14:07] <apparle> Initialized empty Git repository in /home/apparle/ubuntu-lucid/.git/ kernel.ubuntu.com[0: 91.189.94.216]: errno=Connection refused fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
[14:07] <maco> O_o
[14:07] <maco> thats...odd
[14:08] <maco> simo_: i dont think there's really a "better"...its just a boot-loader
[14:08] <apparle> maco: maybe my university firewall is blocking it.............what port does it use
[14:08] <maco> apparle: i dont know. check in #ubuntu-kernel
[14:08] <lilyshu> if i have sun-java and openjdk installed what cmd line to choose one between this two?
[14:08] <simo_> amm ok
[14:09] <apparle> maco: but what was the command you gave supposed to do?
[14:09] <simo_> i will came back
[14:09] <maco> apparle: make a copy of the git repository locally so you could edit it, commit, and produce a git changeset to submit to the kernel team
[14:13] <apparle> maco: you there?
[14:13] <maco> apparle: yes
[14:13] <apparle> maco: so does git work with proxy
[14:14] <maco> i dont know how to configure it to do so
[14:14] <maco> this might also be something to wait til monday or tuesday for, since it's a holiday weekend and all
[14:15] <apparle> ok... assuming I got the local copy..what would I have to add the quirk
[14:16] <soee> anyone notivced that their mouse dpi i think changes when u plaugin some usb device ? mouse is also on usb port
[14:17] <maco> edit sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c
[14:17] <simo_> maco: i wanna install windows7 but i will lose the acces to kubuntu. do u can promise me that i can find a solucion pleaz
[14:17] <simo_> :)
[14:18] <maco> simo_: you can definitely reinsall grub or lilo, whichever you are using, however *i* can only be helpful with grub
[14:18] <maco> and i dont think you want to install the other one
[14:18] <maco> like if you have lilo, i think stick with lilo
[14:18] <maco> and if you have grub, stick with grub
[14:19] <simo_> it isn't a matter, you saaid me there isnt a diferent
[14:19] <maco> they have different configuration files
[14:19] <simo_> ok
[14:19] <maco> your kubuntu install only has configuration files for one of them, so what you install on the MBR should match it
[14:20] <simo_> i dont have a idea what are u talking about :)
[14:20] <simo_> but will find a solusion o this
[14:26] <apparle> maco:  I just check the port 9418 is blocked ... so is there anyway I can create the clone by manually downloading the file?
[14:27] <shadeslayer> apparle: you on gitorious?
[14:28] <apparle> maco: how is this related to holiday
[14:28] <shadeslayer> apparle: you can download the tarball,it should be on the git project page of the project
[14:28] <maco> apparle: kernel developers who know this stuff better are offline?
[14:30] <apparle> Well I figured out that http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ does have a GitWeb but I am unable to understand which file to choose from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[14:32] <houcine> where is the frensh canal
[14:33] <houcine> salut tout le monde
[14:33] <EagleScreen> salut
[14:33] <bazhang> !fr | houcine
[14:34] <jtechidna> !fr
[14:41] <simo_> maco: other question, it posible to install two linux's ditributions in one hard disk ?
[14:41] <maco> simo_: yes
[14:41] <simo_> i mean in one cumpeter
[14:41] <simo_> will nead two swap's particion ?
[14:42] <maco> if you want to be able to keep one hibernated while using the other
[14:43] <simo_> how ?
[14:44] <simo_> they can be used in same times ?
[14:54] <ozi> Application: Plasma Workspace (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
[14:54] <ozi> [Current thread is 1 (Thread 0xb77c9700 (LWP 1465))]
[14:54] <ozi> Help me :(
[14:55] <ozi> Thread 2 (Thread 0xaba8eb70 (LWP 1466)):
[14:55] <ozi> #0  0x00fd1422 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
[14:55] <ozi> #1  0x006b0e15 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
[14:55] <ozi> #2  0x0056078d in pthread_cond_wait () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[14:55] <ozi> #3  0x00c70e67 in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
[14:55] <FloodBotK1> ozi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:55] <ozi> #4  0x00ece922 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4
[14:55] <ozi> anyone can help me :(
[14:57] <EagleScreen> hi ozi
[14:57] <ozi> yes
[14:57] <EagleScreen> your plasma is crashing
[14:57] <ozi> yep
[14:57] <ozi> blank
[14:58] <EagleScreen> ozi: are you using an official Kuubntu KDE version, or some update from any PPA?
[14:58] <ozi> official
[14:59] <ozi> live cd
[14:59] <EagleScreen> which version?
[14:59] <ozi> 4.3.2
[14:59] <EagleScreen> that is from karmic
[14:59] <ozi> iyes
[14:59] <EagleScreen> are only running Kubuntu in Live CD mode or do you mean you installed it from Live CD?
[15:00] <ozi> now i running form live cd
[15:00] <ozi> to solved
[15:00] <ozi> :(
[15:01] <EagleScreen> then, you installed Kubuntu karmic, crash each time, you start session
[15:01] <martijn_> hi, i have installed daisy under opensuse, but i cannot get the panel on bottum there, see this=> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 do you have any idea how to fix this?
[15:01] <ozi> i have instaled karmic
[15:02] <bazhang> martijn_, #suse for opensuse
[15:02] <ozi> normaly
[15:02] <ozi> i edit
[15:02] <ozi> etc/hostname
[15:02] <ozi> :(
[15:02] <martijn_> ok, thanks...
[15:02] <ozi> login false
[15:02] <ozi> i go to recovery mode
[15:03] <ozi> ls /home
[15:03] <bazhang> martijn_, /join #suse
[15:03] <martijn_> bazhang:  just did
[15:03] <ozi> anyting dos'nt work
[15:04] <ozi> now i run live cd
[15:04] <EagleScreen> ozi: your problem can be by two causes, i am almost sure
[15:04] <ozi> to edit hostname
[15:04] <ozi> after that
[15:04] <ozi> blank :D
[15:04] <EagleScreen> ozi: what do you edit hostname for?
[15:05] <ozi> for try network  on wine
[15:05] <fale> does kde4.4b2 has huge issues?
[15:06] <EagleScreen> then your plasma crash, started after edit /etc/hostname
[15:06] <ozi> after edit hostname
[15:06] <ozi> login normaly
[15:06] <ozi> but crash
[15:06] <EagleScreen> fale: i tested it yesterday, and i didn't see any, but just tested for 30 minutes
[15:06] <Zorael> Does anyone know if there is any app (KDE or otherwise) for generating tabbing hierarchy in source files? I have an XML file that had its hierarchy flattened and would like to reconstruct it.
[15:07] <Soslas> hey my samba share(windows-ubuntu) works for a while and then says, connection time out.. any ideas?
[15:07] <fale> EagleScreen: cool :) I'm going to try to use it as productive system ;)
[15:07] <EagleScreen> good luck fale
[15:07] <ozi> any command or anything i can do ?
[15:07] <EagleScreen> ozi: create a new user in your system and try entering with it
[15:08] <fale> Zorael: there was one cli... I guess was w3c something
[15:08] <fale> EagleScreen: thankyou
[15:08] <ozi> ok
[15:08] <ozi> i try
[15:08] <ozi> tanks
[15:09] <EagleScreen> ozi: if it works, then you have corrupted KDE config files in your user account
[15:09] <ozi> mmm
[15:27] <OpenSorce> This is truly irritating, I've disabled ipv6 (actually removed the module) but I still get serious browser lag. Like 12 seconds after entering an address before there is modem activity...
[15:31] <GRS> есть руские?
[15:32] <maco> !ru | grs
[15:32] <GRS> thx
[15:36] <simo_> maco: can i use a virtual machine from here to install it ?
[15:38] <Soslas> Hey
[15:39] <Soslas> i trasnfer data with my samba-shares (wired network) and after some time connection is lost
[15:40] <Soslas> any ideas?
[15:42] <Tysek> Soslas no,
[15:43] <roam> Soslas: anything in the logs?
[15:43] <Soslas> i trasnfer data through samba shares for a while and then
[15:43] <Soslas> the connection is lost
[15:43] <Tysek> maybe try to turnoff QoS
[15:43] <Soslas> qos?
[15:44] <Soslas> i enabled tcp_nodelay
[15:44] <Soslas> and the line before it
[15:47] <Soslas> Tysek
[15:47] <Soslas> qos
[15:47] <Soslas> what
[15:49] <Tysek> it's connection betwen windows and ubu? once upon a time i have similar porblem end after disable QoS in windows everything wos ok
[15:49] <Tysek> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service
[15:49] <simo_> what's a virtual machine in kbuntu ?
[15:50] <Soslas> Tysek btw when i ping the server with -f it says cannot flood minimal interval for user is 200ms
[15:50] <Soslas> is that normal
[15:51] <Tysek> i don't know I'm a not specialist
[15:51] <Tysek> soory
[15:51] <petsounds> simo_, virtual box OSE
[15:52] <GRS> test
[15:53] <simo_> how can i install it
[15:53] <simo_> there is a package ?
[15:54] <jtheuer> there is
[15:54] <Tysek> simo_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[15:55] <Tysek> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox_ubuntu
[15:55] <ferdinando> http://www.webalice.it/ferdinando.pittore/
[16:04] <simerbear> hi, i want to create an ad-hoc wireless conection with my kubuntu. i was looking at http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/kubuntu-9-04-ad-hoc-netzwerk-erstellen/ and http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/kubuntu-9-04-ad-hoc-netzwerk-erstellen/#post-2166970 . i am confused about the difference of knetworkmanager and this plasma widget... it also looks like the gnome tolls semms to be better than the...
[16:04] <simerbear> ...kde tool. any advice?
[16:11] <simerbear> i also lokked at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html . all of them are for ubuntu :(
[16:18] <arthurminakov> Hello!
[16:19] <simerbear> hi
[16:19] <arthurminakov> HEllo!
[16:20] <arthurminakov> Can you help me with videodriver on Kubuntu 9.10?
[16:27] <jmd37> buenas tardes a tods
[16:28] <kaddi> I have a problem with kopete. I have a couple of meta-accounts which contain more than one identity per friend (eg one jabber account, one icq, one msn...). And every 3-4 weeks all the accounts on my friendslist get dissasociated so that the meta accounts are empty and a lot of empty entries are added to my friendlist. Is this a known bug and how do I fix it?
[16:28] <kaddi> hi jmd37
[16:29] <simo__> hola jmd37
[16:29] <simo__> no creo que hay gente que habla español
[16:29] <simo__> asi no sé si puedes resolver tus dudas
[16:29] <kaddi> aqui? no, pero:
[16:30] <kaddi> !es
[16:30] <kaddi> en #ubuntu-es hay gente que hablan espanol ;)
[16:42] <ferdinando> http://www.webalice.it/ferdinando.pittore/
[16:47] <ferdinando> http://www.webalice.it/ferdinando.pittore/
[16:47] <kaddi> please stop spamming that link
[17:16] <BluesKaj> Happy Boxing Day !
[17:46] <simo_> hello
[17:46] <simo_> i instaled a virtualBox
[17:46] <simo_> how can i install a windows in one partition from kubuntu ?
[17:48] <theshortcircuit> u mean inside virtual box
[17:51] <simo_> yes
[18:51] <blackcoffeerider> salut
[18:52] <groomycian_> hi guys
[18:52] <groomycian_> Can anyone to help me with freebsd ports problem?
[18:57] <Guest21422> hi guys
[19:00] <arthurb> Hello, fresh install of karmic, automount is not working... when I plug an USB key, it shows up in dmesg but it is not mounted
[19:01] <soee> hi
[19:23] <sikor_sxe> hello, i installed the new kde 4.4 beta2 on karmic, now when i try to log in to kde the screen stays black (i see a nepomik note- window, tho). anyone knows what to do?
[19:46] <gkffcsk> hey all, can I brun an iso image meant for a cd onto a dvd? And will it work?
[19:49] <soee> gkffcsk: well i wasnt using any kubuntu programs yet for burning cds but if there is such option it will work  - i was burning kubuntu cd image under widnows on dvd  :)
[19:49] <gkffcsk> I'm using k3b
[20:17] <Autoscum> Greetings, everyone.
[20:17] <Autoscum> My sound disappeared after I installed nVidia drivers for my video card.
[20:18] <Autoscum> What do I do? :/
[20:22] <Autoscum> It's that bad, huh?
[20:23] <Quintasan> Autoscum: sound? after installing graphics card?
[20:23] <Autoscum> Uhh, I installed the nVidia graphics drivers for my onboard video
[20:23] <Autoscum> and my sound is gone
[20:23] <Quintasan> Autoscum: by any chance, did you update to KDE 4.4 ?
[20:23] <Autoscum> KMix doesn't start, either.
[20:23] <Autoscum> I'm using the latest Kubuntu, I installed it from Wubi
[20:23] <Autoscum> So yeah, I think it is 4.4
[20:24] <Quintasan> not 4.4 definiately
[20:24] <Quintasan> okay, System settings -> Multimedia
[20:24] <Autoscum> Alright
[20:24] <Quintasan> Try setting your card above Pulse Audio
[20:24] <soee> i would reccomend oss
[20:25] <soee> i ahd problems with alsa and pulse but oss worsk just perfect
[20:25] <Autoscum> I clicked "test" on PulseAudio
[20:25] <Autoscum> and it said it failed
[20:25] <Autoscum> and "returning to ."
[20:25] <Autoscum> Same with "nVidia Digital/Analog"
[20:28] <Autoscum> Also on the "Backend" tab, I have only Xine
[20:28] <Autoscum> No Alsa or OSS
[20:30] <soee> Autoscum: download oss -> http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
[20:30] <pawel_121> oss have many issues
[20:30] <pawel_121> and it's almost dead
[20:31] <pawel_121> has*
[20:31] <soee> pawel_121: the only issue for me is thst my sound finally works
[20:31] <pawel_121> soee good for yoy
[20:31] <pawel_121> you*
[20:31] <pawel_121> for many people don't
[20:31] <Autoscum> Okay, soee.
[20:32] <Autoscum> soee: Should I get the Linux 2.6 DEB?
[20:32] <soee> yes u can
[20:33] <soee> u can change settings by running ossxmix in cocsole
[20:35] <Autoscum> Good, it's installed.
[20:35] <Autoscum> Should I restart my sytem now, soee?
[20:35] <Autoscum> Or is that unnecessary?
[20:36] <Autoscum> Oh, there
[20:36] <soee> Autoscum: yes and than on your System Settings - > Multimedia move oss at the top
[20:36] <Autoscum> It works now.
[20:36] <Quintasan> pawel_121: lol oss dead?
[20:36] <Autoscum> Yeah, it works without restarting.
[20:36] <Quintasan> OSS 4 :D
[20:36] <pawel_121> Quintasan almost ;)
[20:37] <Autoscum> Oh, also.
[20:37] <Quintasan> we don't want OSS dead
[20:37] <Autoscum> Is there a Task Manager like on Windows?
[20:37] <soee> Autoscum: if your card allows 5.2 sound check spread field in ossxmix
[20:37] <Autoscum> Okay.
[20:37] <soee> *5.1
[20:37] <pawel_121> Quintasan why not?
[20:37] <Quintasan> Pulse Audio suck so much I'd rather use OSS or JackD :P
[20:37] <Quintasan> Autoscum: press alt+esc
[20:38] <Quintasan> still I bind it to ctrl+alt+alt :P
[20:38] <pawel_121> Quintasan if I had to choose PA or OSS I'd bet for OSS ;)
[20:38] <Quintasan> lol, del rather
[20:39] <Autoscum> Quintasan: Alt+Esc does nothing :/
[20:39] <Quintasan> Autoscum: you are using KDE4?
[20:39] <soee> Autoscum: what do u want to do ?
[20:39] <Autoscum> "Firefox is running but not responding"
[20:39] <Autoscum> I want to stop firefox's process
[20:39] <pawel_121> in terminal: pkill -9 firefox
[20:39] <soee> Autoscum:  ALT + F2
[20:39] <Autoscum> Okay.
[20:39] <Quintasan> Autoscum: click on your desktop and press alt+esc, must work
[20:39] <soee> and second icon on the left
[20:40] <Autoscum> Quintasan: Yes, I did that
[20:40] <Autoscum> Thanks, soee.
[20:40] <soee> Autoscum: np just enjoy KDE :D
[20:40] <Autoscum> I am enjoying it. :)
[20:40] <pawel_121> Autoscum K menu, system, system-monitor
[20:41] <Autoscum> Thank you soee, Quintasan for the help.
[20:41] <pawel_121> alt+esc don't work ;>
[20:41] <Autoscum> pawel_121: I already got it through the shortcut on on the Run menu.
[20:41] <pawel_121> Autoscum ok :)
[20:41] <Autoscum> Thanks anyway. :)
[20:41] <Autoscum> Now to get some OpenSource first person shooters
[20:42] <Autoscum> haha
[20:42] <Quintasan> pawel_121: how come, it works for me :P
[20:42] <pawel_121> Quintasan good for you ; D
[20:42] <soee> Autoscum: QuakeLive, EnemyTerritory
[20:42] <soee> if u want to play online :D
[20:43] <Quintasan> oh man, how come I don't even have problems with beta releases when tons of people complain? :D
[20:43] <pawel_121> Urban Terror is also great
[20:43] <Quintasan> Assault Cube!
[20:43] <Quintasan> Warsow
[20:43] <soee> never played :D
[20:43]  * Quintasan is tempted to search for his UT2004 DVD
[20:43] <Autoscum> Oh, also
[20:43] <Autoscum> that package manager
[20:43] <Autoscum> "apt"
[20:43] <Autoscum> Did it get replaced? :/
[20:43] <soee> there are some DVD's with games for linux witch u can play without installing them i think
[20:43] <Quintasan> Autoscum: hmm no
[20:44] <soee> contains ut,q4 etc
[20:44] <Quintasan> Autoscum: apt is a CLI package manager
[20:44] <Quintasan> !cli | Autoscum
[20:44] <Quintasan> Autoscum: now we use KPackageKit
[20:44] <Autoscum> Oh.
[20:44] <Autoscum> Yeah.
[20:44] <Autoscum> I think that package manager was named Adept
[20:44] <Autoscum> Is that right?
[20:44] <Quintasan> though it sucks and I will vote to replace it with Shaman2
[20:45] <Quintasan> Autoscum: yes, it's not maintained anymore
[20:45] <Autoscum> Darn
[20:45] <Autoscum> It was really good
[20:45] <Autoscum> It's been a while since I've used Linux
[20:45] <Autoscum> ...obviously :P
[20:46] <Quintasan> good, you've slept over the "KDE4 sucks" wave
[20:46] <soee> hehe :D
[20:46] <pawel_121> Quintasan, does Shaman support apt now? :)
[20:46] <Quintasan> because the 4.0 was actually technical preview and users started whining about not being stable :P
[20:46] <Quintasan> pawel_121: no, it uses PackageKit backend
[20:46] <soee> but 4.3.4 is really nice
[20:47] <Quintasan> pawel_121: but noone will stop you from making an APT backend for it :P
[20:47] <Autoscum> So
[20:47] <Autoscum> I'm gonna google some games :P
[20:47] <pawel_121> Quintasan good to know, I liked it in Arch :)
[20:47] <Autoscum> Hehe
[20:48] <Autoscum> Enemy Terriotry is only 258 MB
[20:48] <soee> Autoscum: i would reccomend Ksudoku and Mahjongg :)
[20:48] <Autoscum> Is it Multiplayer only?
[20:48] <Autoscum> sudoku?
[20:48] <Autoscum> I don't like Sudoku :P
[20:48] <soee> :D
[20:48] <Autoscum> It's too mathematicy for my taste haha
[20:48] <soee> lol :D
[20:50] <soee> Autoscum: http://supergamer.org/ and also http://live.linux-gamers.net/
[20:50] <Autoscum> Oh, look
[20:50] <Autoscum> Postal 2
[20:51] <soee> dont tell me you like games like postal... :)
[20:53] <Quintasan> lol Postal
[20:54] <Autoscum> soee: What's wrong with games like Postal? :P
[20:54] <soee> brb need to reboot
[20:55] <Autoscum> Okay.
[20:55] <Autoscum> Hm, I wonder if Fallout 3 can run with Wine
[20:56] <pawel_121> Autoscum, it runs, but the question is if it is playable :>
[20:56] <Autoscum> Why so, pawel_121?
[20:56] <Autoscum> :P
[20:56] <Autoscum> No, it didn't run :(
[20:57] <pawel_121> last time I looked at winehq and read about F3, characters didn't had heads
[20:57] <Autoscum> rofl
[20:57] <pawel_121> Autoscum, maybe some tuning is needed
[20:57] <Autoscum> Maybe.
[20:57] <Autoscum> Linux isn't for gaming
[20:57] <Autoscum> ...yet
[20:57] <pawel_121> sadly, but not yet ;)
[20:58] <Autoscum> When Microsoft start developing even crappier Windows software
[20:58] <Autoscum> The game companies may turn to Linux :P
[20:58] <Autoscum> The best Windows I've experienced so far is Windows XP with SP3
[20:59] <pawel_121> Autoscum, yes, I'm keeping xp sp3 for games
[20:59] <Autoscum> Yeah
[20:59] <Autoscum> Though, my video card is quite weak.
[20:59] <Autoscum> It's an nVidia GeForce 6150 Onboard
[21:00] <Autoscum> 5 models below Fallout 3's minimum requirement
[21:00] <pawel_121> Autoscum, I played F3 on Ati 1600xt, so quite low end card
[21:00] <pawel_121> but it ran good
[21:00] <Autoscum> pawel_121: It's not onboard, therefor it's more powerful
[21:00] <pawel_121> Autoscum, right
[21:01] <Autoscum> Yeah. :/
[21:01] <Autoscum> Though, I can run Modern Warfare 2
[21:01] <Autoscum> On absolute minimum, on 20 FPS
[21:01] <Autoscum> Cool huh? :P
[21:02] <pawel_121> yes :)
[21:02] <pawel_121> sorry, I missed a 'minimum' word
[21:03] <Autoscum> Haha
[21:03] <Autoscum> :P
[21:03] <pawel_121> ;)
[21:06] <DarkriftX> what should I do if Xorg is taking 70% + cpu?
[21:06] <Autoscum> o.o
[21:06] <DarkriftX> kill it? restart my wm? is there a way to track why?
[21:06] <DarkriftX> i have a bunch of stuff open so id rather not restart x :(
[21:06] <Autoscum> Save your progress and restart
[21:06] <Autoscum> (x)
[21:10] <Autoscum> DarkriftX: You still here? :)
[21:11] <DarkriftX> the reboot is taking forever lol
[21:11] <Autoscum> Haha
[21:14] <Autoscum> I almost downloaded a live DVD with games from live.linux-games.net
[21:14] <Autoscum> or gamers, i don't remember
[21:14] <Autoscum> What do I do with it? :P
[21:19] <r00t_ninja> what are the default font settings?
[21:45] <thomas_> guten abend. spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[21:46] <BluesKaj> !de
[21:59] <gizmobay> Is there a GUI for beagle? Search that is.
[22:05] <kaddi_> beagle? what does it do?
[22:08] <gizmobay> beagle will index your files so you can search them
[22:08] <gizmobay> home directory that is
[22:09] <pawel_121> gizmobay Kubuntu has strigi
[22:10] <pawel_121> afaik it's like beagle
[22:11] <gizmobay> what's the command?
[22:11] <gizmobay>  for strigi that is
[22:11] <pawel_121> gizmobay in System settings → advanced → desktop search you can enable it
[22:12] <pawel_121> then it probably you'll have its icon near your clock
[22:13] <pawel_121> - it*
[22:13] <r00t_ninja> i remember you need to create a symlink for java
[22:13] <gizmobay> Oh I see. I wonder if it'll index a text layer in a djvu file?
[22:14] <r00t_ninja> http://www.aldeby.org/blog/nepomuck-and-stringi-kubuntu-910-strigi-service-failed-to-initialize.html
[22:14] <pawel_121> gizmobay give it a try ;)
[22:14] <r00t_ninja> see that for how to get it working
[22:16] <DarkriftX> anyone know what could cause my mouse to slow down (slow dragging speed liek when your cpu is maxed) while the trackpad stays at full speed? I changed nothing. It was working fine, Xorg started running at 70%+ cpu so I rebooted. its been this way since the reboot
[22:21] <Guest51728> !Air final update (plasma theme)
[22:22] <DarkriftX> lol
[22:23] <Guest51728> DarkriftX,  help
[22:24] <DarkriftX> help what?
[22:28] <Guest51728> !Air final update (plasma theme)
[22:34] <fanti> hello! after installing kubuntu, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does not restart the xserver. how can i enable that function?
[22:35] <r00t_ninja> fanti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
[22:35] <fanti> r00t_ninja: great, thx
[22:35] <r00t_ninja> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[22:36] <r00t_ninja> ^thats probably the best
[22:36] <DarkriftX> that solution never works for me sadly
[22:36] <DarkriftX> it shows as on, but still doesnt work
[22:38] <echoalpha5> has somebody already checked uut the "google earth wallpaper"?
[22:38] <r00t_ninja> right alt + printscreen +k works for me
[22:38] <DarkriftX> is it nicknamed "ram vacuum" ?
[22:42] <echoalpha5> Hi
[22:43] <echoalpha5> Hello
[22:57] <Aison> why are my sound volume settings not stored on shutdown?
[22:58] <Aison> after bootup they are on full power
[22:58] <apparle> maco: are you there?
[23:03] <DarkriftX> anyone know what could cause my mouse to slow down (slow dragging speed liek when your cpu is maxed) while the trackpad stays at full speed? I changed nothing. It was working fine, Xorg started running at 70%+ cpu so I rebooted. its been this way since the reboot
[23:04] <r00t_ninja> maybe the mouse is rendered via software?
[23:04] <DarkriftX> how do i change that?
[23:05] <DarkriftX> i vaguely remember something about disabling hw rendering on the mouse to fix this about 2 years ago
[23:05] <DarkriftX> but google gave nothing useful
[23:07] <apparle> DarkriftX: the list post on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1158521 has the same problem but without solution.... ita seems with the usb hub
[23:08] <DarkriftX> no hub though
[23:08] <r00t_ninja> xset m 4 1
[23:08] <DarkriftX> and other mouse does same thing
[23:08] <DarkriftX> wow, now my mouse zooms across my screen, in slow motion :(
[23:08] <r00t_ninja> lol damn
[23:09] <DarkriftX> the damned stupid trackpad works fine though
[23:09] <DarkriftX> thats what sucks
[23:10] <r00t_ninja> is it a usb mouse ? and what is the make/model of your gfx chip
[23:10] <DarkriftX> nvidia
[23:10] <DarkriftX> lemme get model
[23:10] <DarkriftX> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] (rev a2)
[23:10] <r00t_ninja> i think theres an option to disable hardware acceleration for your mouse in the nvidia-settings
[23:10] <DarkriftX> really
[23:10] <r00t_ninja> ill just go to my other computer and check
[23:10] <DarkriftX> ill check it
[23:10] <bobito> Hey, would anyone here be willing to help me with a weird port issue?  I'm just trying to 'open' a port (on hardy), and I've already forwarded it on my router, opened it in ufw and iptables, and transmission should be listening to the port, but bopth transmission, nmap, and an online service still see it as closed.  I'm out of ideas, and can't find any novel ones in online manuals.  Thanks in advance ya'll.
[23:11] <bobito> and sorry for the spam
[23:12] <DarkriftX> r00t_ninja: i dont see anything
[23:12] <r00t_ninja> yea i couldnt either i mustve been dreaming or something
[23:13] <r00t_ninja> bobito: what port/application
[23:13] <bobito> transmission 1.76.  Any port really, I've been working with 51413 at random.
[23:14] <r00t_ninja> make sure you are fowarding to the right address
[23:14] <r00t_ninja> and that transmission is listening on that port when you test if it is open
[23:15] <bobito> r00t_ninja: II checked with netstat and transmission is listening
[23:16] <bobito> r00t_ninja: But I don't know what you mean by checking the right address.  in my router page I "forwarded" the range 51412-51414
[23:16] <r00t_ninja> where did you foward it to
[23:16] <r00t_ninja> what ip address
[23:16] <bobito> 192.168.1.103
[23:16] <bobito> which is what ifconfig listss me as
[23:17] <bobito> am i misreading netstat?  when I type netstat -an | grep "listening" I get
[23:17] <bobito>  tcp6       0      0 :::51413                :::*                    LISTEN
[23:18] <r00t_ninja> DarkriftX: maybe: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75281.html
[23:20] <bobito> r00t_ninja: whoops, didn't address those lines to you by accident
[23:28] <bobito> r00t_ninja: no ideas?
[23:36] <r00t_ninja> bobito: are you using dhcp on your router?
[23:38] <bobito> r00t_ninja: I believe so.  I've never changed that option, so if its on by default, then definately yes
[23:38] <bobito> r00t_ninja: yes, its enabled
[23:38] <r00t_ninja> are you sure your ip that your fowarding to hasnt changed then?
[23:38] <r00t_ninja> thats all i can really think of
[23:40] <bobito> r00t_ninja: Here's a screen shot of the dhcp on the routrer page http://imgur.com/3qTYZ
[23:41] <bobito> r00t_ninja: and here's the pastebin of the ifconfig output
[23:41] <bobito> r00t_ninja: http://pastebin.com/d38fc62dd
[23:42] <r00t_ninja> brb
[23:42] <bobito> r00t_ninja: Just in case I'm crazy, here's the port forwarding page on the router.  http://imgur.com/48Xif.  Can you tell I'm desperate yet? lol
[23:48] <r00t_ninja> transmission uses upnp doesnt it?
[23:48] <r00t_ninja> you shouldnt need to portfoward
[23:49] <r00t_ninja> bobito: make sure your router has upnp enabled
[23:50] <bobito> r00t_ninja: I can't find any option for uPnp.  I asked in $transmission if NAT-PMP was on my router, and they said yes
[23:50] <bobito> r00t_ninja: but never got back to me on if there was a way to check either
[23:50] <bobito> can't find an option for that either
[23:52] <r00t_ninja> bobito: have you tried downloading a torrent?
[23:52] <sapablo> hola
[23:53] <sapablo> hay algun español?
[23:54] <bobito> r00t_ninja: no problems downlading
[23:54] <sapablo> holaaa
[23:54] <bobito> r00t_ninja: but i've yet to see it upload anything I have seeding, regardless of whether the torrent is being leeched
[23:55] <r00t_ninja> try the openoffice torrent
[23:56] <sapablo> i'm searching for a experte in samba
[23:56] <r00t_ninja> sapablo: im not an expert but whats your problem>
[23:56] <r00t_ninja> ?
[23:57] <sapablo> my english is not very good but I'm going to try to explain you
[23:57] <sapablo> I have shared my printer
[23:58] <simo___> hello world!!
[23:58] <simo___> sapablo: no creo que vas a resolver tus dudas, que la gente aqui habla solo ingles :)
[23:58] <simo___> so i'm not
[23:58] <simo___> i'm a debutant here :)
[23:58] <FloodBotK1> simo___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <simo___> i don't understand what's this FloodBotK1
[23:59] <sapablo> If I make a /etc/init.d/samba restart I can see my printer in windows
[23:59] <bobito> r00t_ninja: where's that?  The  distribution.openoffice.org/p2p page isn't loading for me