[01:44] <DanaG> argh, smplayer won't work.
[01:45] <DanaG> Unknown option on the command line: -ass
[01:45] <DanaG> Error parsing option on the command line: -ass
[01:45] <DanaG> that's the console output it claims.
[01:46] <bjsnider> turn of ass/ssa subtitles in the option ist
[01:46] <bjsnider> disable them
[01:47] <DanaG> hmm, where is that?
[01:47] <DanaG> And why is it now unsupported? That's a regression.
[01:47] <bjsnider> you can find it
[01:47] <bjsnider> come on, man
[01:47] <DanaG> If it's just enabled by default... then it shouldn't refuse "-ass" on command line.
[01:47] <DanaG> oh, I see... it was a BUTTON.
[01:47] <DanaG> That looked like a TAB.
[01:48] <DanaG> Bad UI.
[01:48] <bjsnider> complain to rvm about it
[01:48] <bjsnider> it's his software
[01:48] <bjsnider> now does it work?
[01:48] <bjsnider> what video driver are you using?
[01:48] <DanaG> hmm, and checking "normal" gives "no such parameter -noass"
[01:49] <DanaG> Same with it unchecked.
[01:49] <bjsnider> it's passing parameters to mplayer on the command line
[01:49] <bjsnider> so it's really an mplayer issue
[01:50] <bjsnider> where did you get that mplayer?
[01:53] <DanaG> mplayer-nogui  Version: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-1ubuntu12
[01:54] <DanaG> version reported by mplayer: MPlayer UNKNOWN-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
[01:55] <DanaG> that's what smplayer says.
[01:56] <DanaG> calling just 'mplayer' gives
[01:56] <DanaG> MPlayer SVN-r29834-4.4.1 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
[01:57] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smplayer/+bug/493188
[02:00] <bjsnider> the only way i think you'd get that error is if mplayer were not built against the substation headers
[02:00] <bjsnider> which in ubuntu it is built against
[02:00] <bjsnider> so obviously you must have picked that mplayer up from some unkown corner of the web
[02:01] <DanaG> weird... the dvd video UNDER the subtitles... is spazzing out and getting extra copies of subtitle text.
[02:02] <bjsnider> which video driver is this?
[02:02] <DanaG> xv.
[02:03] <bjsnider> you're not using this with an ati card are you?
[02:03] <DanaG> yup, it is ATI.
[02:04] <bjsnider> oh, no. no, no, no.
[02:06] <DanaG> I've never had issues with subtitles before this brokenness of ass.
[02:06] <bjsnider> brokenness of ass?
[02:06] <DanaG> =þ
[02:07] <DanaG> Well, what I mean is, this breakage is recent.
[02:07] <bjsnider> a bit of antibiotics should clear that up
[02:07] <bjsnider> rvm is wrong. mplayer gives "UNKOWN" as the version number these days
[02:08] <bjsnider> and it is being compiled with freetype and fontconfig and libass-dev
[02:08] <bjsnider> try the one in my ppa if you want
[02:08] <bjsnider> just grab the package directly
[02:09] <DanaG> Personal PPA?
[02:10] <bjsnider> nvidia-vdpau
[02:10] <DanaG> ah.
[02:13] <DanaG> The window "Fatal error!" is not responding. It belongs to the application mplayer (Process ID = 4709, hostname = localhost).
[02:13] <DanaG> =þ
[02:15] <bjsnider> i've never seen mplayer produce a "fatal error" message
[02:15] <DanaG> that's gmplayer.
[02:15] <bjsnider> gmplayer is a piece of junk
[02:15] <DanaG> well, nothing else is working well, either.
[02:16] <DanaG> gnome mplayer doesn't give a "play dvd" button or such.
[02:16] <bjsnider> can you find the build log for the most recent mplayer run?
[02:16] <DanaG> er, wait, gnome-mplayer does.
[02:17] <DanaG> and gnome-mplayer "dvd with menus" makes gnome-mplayer not play, and just crash.
[02:17] <DanaG> when I try hitting "play" multiple times in rapid succession, I get:
[02:17] <DanaG> *** glibc detected *** gnome-mplayer: free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000000001376e30 ***
[02:18] <DanaG> hmm, and without menus, it just flips through chapters without playing anything.
[02:18] <bjsnider> mnplayer does not have menu support
[02:19] <DanaG> hmm, why does gnome mplayer offer it?
[02:19] <DanaG> ah, gnome-mplayer not-playing is also due to broken ass.
[02:21] <bjsnider> DanaG, open mplayer from the console, and try to play a video file, preferably one with embedded subs
[02:22] <DanaG> does dvd:// count?
[02:22] <bjsnider> i'm interested in whether mplayer can display the subs, or any other osd info
[02:23] <bjsnider> yeah, sure that's fine
[02:23] <DanaG> weird... it defaulted to 2-channel audio even on a 6-channel dvd.
[02:24] <bjsnider> -channels 6
[02:24] <bjsnider> it does 2 channel by default
[02:24] <DanaG> hmm, odd that it's single-dash and yet not single-letter parameter.
[02:25] <DanaG> weird... this time subtitles are fine, even though I didn't do anything special.
[02:25] <bjsnider> so fontconfig is enabled
[02:26] <DanaG> This is just a dvd, though.
[02:26] <bjsnider> i just checked the control and rules files for mine, which is based on reinhard's, and freetype is enabled during the build process
[02:31] <DanaG> hmm, I have an mkv file with both plain-text and SSA subtitles... and only the text ones work.
[02:32] <DanaG> I'll try your ppa one now.
[02:32] <bjsnider> it might want libvdpau1 to be installed first
[02:33] <bjsnider> it's in there too though
[02:33] <DanaG> eh, I'm fine with just adding the ppa itself.
[02:33] <DanaG> s/just /simply/
[02:33] <bjsnider> whatever turns your crank
[02:33] <bjsnider> whatever floats your boat
[02:37] <DanaG> ahh, ppa version has working ssa.
[02:38] <bjsnider> what?
[02:38] <bjsnider> i didn't expect that
[02:38] <bjsnider> strange
[02:38] <bjsnider> i built the binaries against karmic's stuff and then copied them over to lucid
[02:39] <bjsnider> how very odd
[02:39] <bjsnider> i expected that was the problem with the lucid repo mplayer as well
[02:42] <DanaG> weird... under smplayer, it doesn't see subtitles at all.
[02:43] <DanaG> ah, but "enable closed captions" works.
[02:43] <DanaG> BUT IT'S IN ALL CAPS.
[02:44] <bjsnider> doesn't see subs in what?
[02:44] <bjsnider> a dvd?
[02:44] <DanaG> Yeah.
[02:44] <bjsnider> you've got libdvdcss installed right?
[02:45] <DanaG> I'm pretty sure I do.
[02:45] <DanaG> yup, installed.
[02:46] <bjsnider> dvd is going to be a bit of a problem for mplayer
[02:46] <bjsnider> most of the other players are better at it
[05:10] <DanaG> 86:09.5 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ff) (prog-if ff)        !!! Unknown header type 7f        Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
[05:10] <DanaG> interesting.
[06:30] <chu_> Hey guys, how's things going with Lucid at the moment? I have a few months left in my break, was thinking of playing around with Lucid...
[08:20] <chadi> Hi. Please tell me that 10.04 supports touch screens!
[08:49] <CosmiChaos> chadi: currently 10.04 is not even supported... its in developement
[08:50] <CosmiChaos> chadi, with supports: you mean automatically working?
[08:50] <chadi> yeah
[08:51] <CosmiChaos> what kind of touchscreen device do you have?
[08:51] <CosmiChaos> do you mean a touchscreen device like a pda, or a new multitouch-device
[08:54] <CosmiChaos> xserver-xorg-input-evtouch
[08:54] <CosmiChaos> Touchscreen-Driver for X.Org/XFree86 server
[08:54] <CosmiChaos> look if your device is supported
[08:57] <CosmiChaos> didnt karmic already supported touchscreens?
[09:00] <chadi> oops sorry didn't notice
[09:00] <chadi> i have a ntoebook
[09:00] <chadi> hp dv3-2270
[09:00] <chadi> and it is multi-touch
[09:01] <CosmiChaos> hmmm
[09:01] <CosmiChaos> no idea about that
[09:01] <chadi> it's like the hp tx series, but this is multi
[09:01] <CosmiChaos> well wait
[09:02] <CosmiChaos> ENAC developed a multi-touch driver for kernel 2.6.30 i read on heise
[09:03] <chadi> but touch doesn't work "out of the box"
[09:04] <CosmiChaos> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-touchpad/
[09:04] <CosmiChaos> ;)
[09:04] <CosmiChaos> you have the device xD
[09:04] <CosmiChaos> i dont know
[09:05] <CosmiChaos> create a partition and try
[09:05] <chadi> correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this for the touch pad?
[09:26] <rsk> seems like it
[10:24] <Hew> When my system just suddenly restarts, where should I start looking for the culprit?
[10:28] <joaopinto> Hew, /var/log/*
[11:34] <CosmiChaos> x 1.7.4 likely will be released before userspace freeze, will it be in lucid?
[12:23] <joaopinto> CosmiChaos, you mean xorg ? current lucid version is 7.5
[12:24] <CosmiChaos> no xserver 1.7.4-rc2 just released, so final will be approximately within the next two weeks phoronix says. userspace freeze has more than 4 weeks left, so i guess it will definetly be release before.
[12:25] <CosmiChaos> lots of backported bugfixes from 7.8 so maybe it worth for lucid
[12:26] <CosmiChaos> from 1.8 i mean
[12:28] <soee> hi
[12:30] <CosmiChaos> joaopinto, here is the news: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzg0Mw
[13:49] <om26er> there have been no updates in the last few days is it due to the holidays?
[13:49] <yofel> seems like it, the lucid-changes ML is very quiet the last few days
[13:50] <om26er> hmm
[14:13] <knittl> bjsnider: should standby be working with nvidia-195?
[14:28] <bjsnider> knittl, that i do not know
[14:28] <bjsnider> does standby work in any linux driver?
[14:30] <knittl> the only way to get a picture after suspending is by killing xserver with ctrl-alt-backspace
[14:30] <knittl> lucid is alpha, i know
[14:30] <knittl> but maybe someone got it working already
[15:39] <om26er> 10secs is the boot target and then blueprints of lucid say that it will also use plymouth and xsplash how both these can be shown in 10secs. wouldn't it be too quick?
[15:41] <BUGabundo> my bootchart says 34secs
[15:41] <BUGabundo> its worse then karmic
[15:41] <om26er> BUGabundo, my bootchart says 21secs
[15:41] <BUGabundo> I got 15 sec of ureadahaed
[15:43] <BUGabundo> so no way rotatory powered laptops will be 10sec
[15:43] <BUGabundo> maybe SSD
[15:43] <om26er> 15secs for HDD's i guess
[15:44] <om26er> there seems to be a 7secs difference between ssd and hdd dell mini
[15:44] <om26er> http://people.canonical.com/~scott/daily-bootcharts/
[16:03] <ToxinPowe> By the way, what is the "official" boot time for Karmic?
[16:04] <rsk> the time you push the button on the PC up to the point when it's booted
[16:04] <om26er> ToxinPowe, target is 10secs for ssd version of dell mini milestoned to lucid alpha 3
[16:05] <ToxinPowe> yes, I only want to know the oficcial times for "old" Karmic
[16:05] <ToxinPowe> to see the diferences
[17:16] <BluesKaj> Happy Boxing Day !
[18:11] <dupondje> lotsa using Alpha 1 yet ?
[18:12] <yofel> well, most of us here^^, though a daily makes more sense now than the alpha1
[18:13] <bjsnider> there's a lot of leftover karmic stuff that was just copied over anyway
[18:13] <yofel> true, only kde has a lot of new stuff afaik
[18:15] <dupondje> hmz ok :) so its not a improvment to upgrade yet :)
[18:23] <rr72> still no luck with xorg in lucid, ever since i upgraded it seg faults
[18:28] <rr72> could X be segfaulting because of udev?
[18:46] <rr72> i have my xorg.0.log, it is segfaulting and I would like help trying to figure out my problem
[18:47] <rr72> !ask
[18:48] <rr72> my pastebin is at pastebin.com/f753f7708
[19:01] <soee> hi
[19:17] <bjsnider> rr72, your graphics chip is a quadro fx 570m, correct?
[19:25] <rr72> bjsnider~ yes
[19:27] <bjsnider> so you should be using the nvidia 190 or 195 blob
[19:27] <bjsnider> it is currently broken in lucid's repos, but working in the nvidia-vdpau ppa
[19:28] <rr72> blob?
[19:28] <rr72> ok ty
[19:28] <rr72> hopefully that will solve my problem, i have purged xorg and gdm so many times to try and figure out the problem lol
[19:30] <bjsnider> update nvidia-common and install the 195 modaliases package if it doesn't prompt you automatically. then run jockey and it will recommend the 195 driver
[19:32] <rr72> do you know the name of the modalies package right off yer head? I can google was justwondering
[19:32] <rr72> bjsnider~ the ppa is karmic or lucid?
[19:33] <rr72> wait nvm figured it out
[19:33] <rr72> sorry for hilight
[19:46] <rr72> bjsnider~ i did all that and still seg faulting, maybe i mised a step of installing the 195 or not telling the xserver about it?
[19:48] <crimsun> things almost never segfault *because of* udev
[19:48] <crimsun> please pastebin your /avr/olg/Xorg.0.log
[19:48] <crimsun> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:48] <rr72> my pastebin is at pastebin.com/f753f7708
[19:49] <rr72> wait thats my old one
[19:49] <rr72> oops sorry
[19:51] <bjsnider> rr72, did you select the 195 driver in jockey?
[19:51] <rr72> not sure how to use jockey actually
[19:51] <bjsnider> hardware drivers
[19:51] <crimsun> (System > Administration > Hardware Drivers)
[19:52] <rr72> x seg faults so no access to gui
[19:52] <bjsnider> in that case, did you sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-195?
[19:53] <rr72> it did that whjen i updated nvidia-commone
[19:53] <rr72> -e
[19:53] <rr72> -j
[19:53] <bjsnider> and what does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?
[19:53] <rr72> wait nvm it didnt install it alongside it
[19:54] <rr72> installing now and going to see if X will start
[19:54] <bjsnider> nv should have given you a basic gui
[19:55] <rr72> nope
[19:55] <rr72> iirc
[19:55] <bjsnider> and that's doubly true since you have a quadro chip. that's what nvidia really cares about, is supporting workstation customers
[19:55] <crimsun> please, please pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[19:56] <rr72> ROFL i have no xorg.conf,
[19:56] <bjsnider> that's not surprising
[19:56] <rr72> crimsun~ will in one sec :-D
[19:56] <bjsnider> i'm not sure if x will autoselect the blob yet
[19:56] <crimsun> heh, you should have one written out, else xorg-server will choose nv instead of nvidia
[19:56] <crimsun> it won't
[19:57] <bjsnider> are you sure? i thought there was a patch
[19:57] <crimsun> I've been through this already
[19:57] <crimsun> yes, I'm quite sure
[19:57] <crimsun> I just tested it this morning
[19:57] <rr72> i want it to choose nv so i can get any sort of gui
[19:57] <bjsnider> it is choosing nv
[19:57] <bjsnider> nv is failing
[19:57] <crimsun> nv is really nastily crippled, so you don't want to choose it
[19:57] <crimsun> if you're going to hard-code non-nvidia, use vesa
[19:58] <rr72> f4afc946e
[19:58] <rr72> http://pastebin.com/f4afc946e
[19:58] <bjsnider> vesa is junk
[19:59] <crimsun> bjsnider: obviously. However, nv doesn't even mode-set properly on a great many Nvidia chipsets.
[19:59] <crimsun> rr72: right, that's attempting nv.
[20:00] <rr72> and nv is broken right? so i need somehow to not use nv
[20:00] <crimsun> [    0.129241] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  195.30  Fri Dec 18 17:09:18 PST 2009
[20:00] <crimsun> so you definitely have nvidia-glx-195 installed
[20:01] <crimsun> you should have at least http://pastebin.com/d5fd715e2 in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:02] <rr72> then when i get a gui I can have it finish it?
[20:02] <crimsun> I'll paste a hacked-up version of mine: http://pastebin.com/d39cd3839
[20:02] <bjsnider> you only need a very basic xorg.conf
[20:03] <bjsnider> this is what jockey should be doing
[20:03] <bjsnider> for you
[20:03] <rr72> can't i run jockey via CLI?
[20:03] <bjsnider> if nv is so borken then lucid needs to change the default to vesa or nouveau
[20:04] <bjsnider> rr72, you only need a basic xorg.conf in there. it shouldn't be too hard to get one pasted in
[20:07] <rr72> now to install gdm and see if it works :-D X starts
[20:08] <bjsnider> install gdm? gdm should be there already
[20:08] <rr72> i removed it
[20:08] <rr72> i thought it was a problem with gdm
[20:09] <crimsun> bjsnider: why? it's a special case for nv
[20:10] <crimsun> I don't see why vesa should be preferred over e.g., ati, on ati hardware
[20:10] <crimsun> bjsnider: also, patches for jockey happily reviewed/accepted
[20:11] <crimsun> (we have #ubuntu-reviews, too)
[20:11] <rr72> so all my backgrounds and stuff is gone, oh well, i get a gui now thankyou crimsun and bjsnider
[20:11] <bjsnider> your backgrounds shouldn't be gone
[20:11] <bjsnider> unless you blew away your gconf directories
[20:12] <rr72> it started gnome not xfce4
[20:12] <bjsnider> crimsun, i never said anything about ati hardware. i said instead of choosing nv first for nvidia hardware
[20:12] <bjsnider> oh, i see
[20:12] <bjsnider> but i think nouveau is eventually going to replace nv in lucid anyway
[20:13] <crimsun> bjsnider: I think I see where you may have implied that in context, but you didn't actually say what you claimed to say ;)
[20:13] <rr72> here we are :-D
[20:13] <rr72> anyone else get little boxes around the notifications?
[20:13] <crimsun> rr72: about urgency?
[20:14] <rr72> yeah
[20:14] <crimsun> rr72: yes, that's expected
[20:14] <rr72> that standard?
[20:14] <rr72> ok just making sure, thankyou so much crimsun !!!!!!
[20:14] <crimsun> (no need to thank me)
[20:15] <rr72> can you fix my hotkeys? jk :-P
[20:15] <rr72> i made a fix for that myself
[20:15] <bjsnider> what laptop is that?
[20:16] <rr72> hp compaq 8510w
[20:16] <bjsnider> a compaq with a quadro chip?
[20:16] <rr72> it's a "mobile workstation"
[20:17] <bjsnider> it must have been quite pricey
[20:17] <rr72> forced upon me for school
[20:17] <bjsnider> and you decided to use an unstable linux distro
[20:18] <bjsnider> in school
[20:18] <rr72> XP is sitting on another harddrive
[20:18] <rr72> :-P
[20:18] <bjsnider> xp is end of life
[20:18] <rr72> this is my PS3's harddrive actually
[20:19] <rr72> thankyou so much crimsun !!!!!!!!!!!!! if need any testemonials I am willing to testify about you :-D
[20:19] <rr72> you too bjsnider
[20:26] <bjsnider> testimonials?
[21:16] <crimsun> so...
[21:16] <crimsun> any intrepid (not 8.10) Realtek HDA users about?
[21:18] <crimsun> or Analog Devices HDA for that matter
[21:18] <DanaG> hmm, everything I have is now Lucid.
[21:20] <crimsun> no, I mean any foolhard/enterprising
[21:20] <crimsun> +y
[21:21] <bjsnider> i've got a quite excellent creative card here
[21:21] <crimsun> s/excellent/------/
[21:24] <bjsnider> never had a problem with it. does excellent sound filtering
[21:26] <crimsun> most people never have problems with "only ALSA [instead of PulseAudio]". That certainly doesn't preclude the existence of particularly nasty bugs.
[21:28] <bjsnider> i'm using pulse
[21:28] <bjsnider> have for years
[21:29] <bjsnider> i actually have hardware bass/treble controls on this card which is great
[21:29] <bjsnider> all of the equalizers i've used, like the one in banshee, cause low level rumbling sounds to occur
[21:29] <crimsun> I'm saying that just because your experience has been generically acceptable does not mean that things are not still broken
[21:30] <DanaG> I seem to remember myself having various alsa-only issues in the past, at least on my old nvidia + stac9250 laptop.... closing the lid caused audio to drop out for like 750-1000 ms, even in Windows.
[21:30] <crimsun> DanaG: ah, that's actually HW
[21:31] <crimsun> the 9250 has a drain issue
[21:31] <DanaG> It looped oddly, tool.
[21:31] <crimsun> I'm not really sure how to work around that one
[21:31] <DanaG> And it only happened with nvidia binary, not with nv; never tried it with nouveau.
[21:31] <crimsun> I suppose we could inspect the codec SSID and special-case the msleep
[21:32] <DanaG> I'd use "DPC Latency Checker" in Windows... and there would be a huge spike upon lid close.
[21:32] <crimsun> yes, the Nvidia blob does an extra msleep for purportedly the same reason
[21:32] <crimsun> back when a friend interned at Nvidia, he told me that their blob attempts to workaround bios anomalies
[21:33] <crimsun> work around*
[21:33] <DanaG> It also had this weird BIOS-based OSD for brightness changes and volume control.
[21:33] <DanaG> If I spammed brightness keys while using CRT only, I could actually make the thing lose sync, because the acpi code, or something, took too long to complete.
[21:34] <crimsun> oh christ I suck
[21:34] <crimsun> hmm! codec->vendor->id, no.
[22:01] <Joda> whats the current kernel ?
[22:37] <bjsnider> !info mozilla-js.pc
[22:42] <bjsnider> is there a file search here?
[22:49] <bjsnider> !find mozilla-js.pc lucid
[22:57] <yoasif> heya
[22:57] <yoasif> anyone around?
[23:04] <BUGabundo> boas noites o/
[23:04] <BUGabundo> crimsun: ping
[23:04] <BUGabundo> crimsun: want to do a few more tests?
[23:09] <bjsnider> he was looking for somebody earlier
[23:09] <BUGabundo> prob me
[23:09] <BUGabundo> he has been hating me since last week
[23:09] <yoasif> BUGabundo: got a second
[23:09] <yoasif> ?
[23:09] <BUGabundo> to test his modifications
[23:09] <bjsnider> realtek hda?
[23:09] <BUGabundo> yoasif: for you ? I got 5 sec
[23:09] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: yep
[23:10] <yoasif> lol... do you use gnome + compiz?
[23:10] <BUGabundo> yep
[23:10] <BUGabundo> using it right now
[23:11] <yoasif> i'm trying to use the keyboard shortcuts of gnome... "move between windows of an application, using a popup window" doesn't work
[23:11] <yoasif> see keyboard shortcuts
[23:11] <BUGabundo> errr
[23:11] <BUGabundo> what?!
[23:12] <BUGabundo> alt+tab?
[23:12] <yoasif> no
[23:12] <BUGabundo> super tab?
[23:12] <yoasif> alt `
[23:12] <BUGabundo> alt shift ´  ?
[23:13]  * BUGabundo opens cssm
[23:13]  * BUGabundo opens a 2nd FF window
[23:15] <BUGabundo> yoasif: my shortcut for that, in gnome settings, is set to alt+tab
[23:15] <BUGabundo> doesn't make much sense, since it also changes to *other* apps
[23:16] <yoasif> BUGabundo: weird, are you sure alt tab isnt set to "move between windows, using a popup window"?
[23:16] <BUGabundo> screenshot coming your way
[23:17] <Michalxo> guys? Does anyone have knowledge in BT?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> yoasif:  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-Keyboard%20Shortcuts.png <--- this ?
[23:17] <yoasif> but anyway, my question is -- what do i file the bug against? compiz isn't using the gnome keyboard settings, that isn't good
[23:17] <Michalxo> I am having interesting bug with it
[23:18] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: all I know: it works
[23:18] <Michalxo> BUGabundo, no it does not... or it does, unless you turn it off via that applet
[23:18] <BUGabundo> yoasif: compiz *is* using those settings
[23:18] <BUGabundo> it reads and updates them
[23:18] <yoasif> BUGabundo: no, this http://i.imgur.com/6SYma.png
[23:18] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: you mean you have to turn it off, so it sets on?
[23:19] <Michalxo> I turned it off (BT) and I am unable to turn it on again.. I can't see bluetooth-aplett! :-/
[23:19] <BUGabundo> yoasif: "Disabled"
[23:19] <yoasif> BUGabundo: when does it update?
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: ahhhh
[23:19] <yoasif> BUGabundo: so if you set it, does it work?
[23:19] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[23:19] <Michalxo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/447312/comments/23 BUGabundo please read
[23:20] <Michalxo> BUGabundo, did not help :-(
[23:21] <BUGabundo> yoasif: I setted it, and didn work
[23:21] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: pkill bluetooth-applet
[23:21] <BUGabundo> $ bluetooth-applet
[23:21] <bjsnider> !find jsapi.h lucid
[23:21] <BUGabundo> or check gconf to make it Visible
[23:21] <yoasif> BUGabundo: does changing anything in keyboard settings have an effect for you?
[23:21] <BUGabundo> testing
[23:21] <yoasif> ok
[23:22] <BUGabundo> Yes
[23:22] <BUGabundo> I just disabled CA Left
[23:22] <yoasif> CA left?
[23:22] <Michalxo> BUGabundo, can you send me "value" of this key in gconf please? /apps/bluetooth-manager/icon_policy
[23:23] <BUGabundo> Control Alt
[23:23] <yoasif> BUGabundo: yeah, you are right, cool
[23:23] <BUGabundo> /apps/bluetooth-manager/show_icon
[23:23] <yoasif> so what do you think i should file the bug against? *is* it a bug?
[23:23] <Michalxo> BUGabundo, visible? never?
[23:23] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: /apps/bluetooth-manager/icon_policy enabled
[23:24] <BUGabundo>  /apps/bluetooth-manager/show_icon I mean
[23:24] <Michalxo> show icon is ticked
[23:24] <Michalxo> and icon+policy was never.. now it's always
[23:24] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:24] <BUGabundo> no
[23:24] <Michalxo> ?
[23:24] <BUGabundo> I only have ONE option
[23:24] <Michalxo> :-O
[23:25] <BUGabundo> screenshot
[23:25] <BUGabundo> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-Configuration%20Editor%20-%20bluetooth-manager.png
[23:25] <Michalxo> interesting
[23:25] <Michalxo> I have there that key, but no schema :-/
[23:26] <Michalxo> I think I have to go to XP and enable BT there :-/
[23:26] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[23:26] <Michalxo> what if I haven't had XP?? :-/
[23:26] <BUGabundo> I never had Win here
[23:26] <BUGabundo> I would be screwed
[23:26] <Michalxo> heh
[23:26] <BUGabundo> I had that with WiFi long ago
[23:26] <BUGabundo> a kernel bug
[23:26] <BUGabundo> required Win to enabled it
[23:26] <Michalxo> yeah, same here
[23:26] <Michalxo> :-)
[23:27] <Michalxo> in gutsy I thik
[23:27] <BUGabundo> or to echo a certain variable at precise time in boot
[23:27] <BUGabundo> early 2008
[23:27] <Michalxo> :-D
[23:27] <BUGabundo> 7,10 and alpha 8.04
[23:27] <Michalxo> I am going to reboot :-/
[23:27] <Michalxo> probably :-)
[23:27] <Michalxo> yes.. gutsy was around that time and my laptop too
[23:28] <BUGabundo> finally realised it was a two side prob
[23:28] <BUGabundo> the kernel bug
[23:28] <BUGabundo> and faulty wifi card
[23:28] <Michalxo> atheros?
[23:28] <BUGabundo> it wasn't properly placed :\
[23:28] <Michalxo> :-))
[23:28] <BUGabundo> intel 4965
[23:28] <Michalxo> that's mine :-D
[23:28] <BUGabundo> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0b05:1712 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. BT-183 Bluetooth 2.0+EDR adapter
[23:29] <Michalxo> hm
[23:29] <Michalxo> BUGabundo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360039 this is my BT :-/
[23:30] <BUGabundo> are you running karmic???
[23:30] <Michalxo> yea.. but it's basically same as lucid a1
[23:31] <BUGabundo> ?
[23:31] <Michalxo> on ubuntu there is no one answering my questions :-(
[23:32] <Michalxo> gonna try that XP thing
[23:34] <BUGabundo> err
[23:34] <BUGabundo> guud luck
[23:34] <BUGabundo> you gonna need it
[23:34] <yoasif> BUGabundo: any ideas on where to file that bug against?
[23:35] <yoasif> and you can confirm it on launchpad, right?
[23:35] <yoasif> after i file it
[23:36] <BUGabundo> no I can't
[23:37] <BUGabundo> I can NOT confirm it
[23:37] <BUGabundo> I could change Compiz shortcuts from Gnome shortucs
[23:37] <BUGabundo> :)
[23:38] <yoasif> BUGabundo: what about the "move  between windows of an application, using a popup window"
[23:38] <BUGabundo> ahh
[23:38] <BUGabundo> I never used it
[23:38] <BUGabundo> so I don't know what it is expected to do
[23:38] <BUGabundo> when it works
[23:38] <yoasif> yeah, but you can confirm that it doesn't work
[23:38] <BUGabundo> I can say it didn't work
[23:38] <yoasif> well, it doing nothing means that it doesn't work
[23:39] <BUGabundo> but I don't know what it does do to work
[23:39] <yoasif> it's supposed to switch the windows and show a popup window like alt tab
[23:39] <yoasif> obviously doing nothing means that it doesn't work
[23:39] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:39] <BUGabundo> open it up
[23:39] <BUGabundo> ill confirm it
[23:42] <yoasif> cool, filing against compiz
[23:43] <BUGabundo> does it work on metacity?
[23:44] <crimsun> BUGabundo: yes, I'll have something in a couple minutes. Just let me push the patches somewhere public.
[23:45] <BUGabundo> right
[23:45] <BUGabundo> just when I was gonna watch a movie
[23:45] <BUGabundo> I guess I can stick a few more minutes
[23:45] <BUGabundo> and do 4 reboots
[23:45] <BUGabundo> bring it on
[23:45] <crimsun> BUGabundo: well, first I need you to verify that the speakers/hp pop when powering down
[23:45] <crimsun> (with the current Lucid kernel, that is)
[23:45] <BUGabundo> fully updated in +1
[23:46] <BUGabundo> all but X
[23:46] <BUGabundo> that is broken
[23:47] <yoasif> xorg hasnt updated for me in weeks it seems
[23:48] <BUGabundo> I have it there waiting
[23:48] <BUGabundo> and I refuse to do it
[23:48] <BUGabundo> until it stop removing my kernel and nvidia driver
[23:49] <crimsun> BUGabundo: first, grab a new snapshot (http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.bz2)
[23:50] <bjsnider> !find jsapi.h karmic
[23:50] <BUGabundo> crimsun: done
[23:52] <Michalxo> BUGabundo, I was correct.. booting to XP and back solved the probelm :-/
[23:52] <BUGabundo> so you do have XP in there
[23:53] <crimsun> BUGabundo: ok, grab the new patches at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~dtchen/test-kernels/powerdown-analog/
[23:54] <BUGabundo> done
[23:54] <crimsun> BUGabundo: now extract the tarball and apply those two patches
[23:56] <BUGabundo> $ patch -p1 < ../0001-ALSA-hda-Add-powerdown-noise-fixes-for-Analog-Device.patch
[23:56] <BUGabundo> patching file sound/pci/hda/patch_analog.c
[23:56] <BUGabundo> $ patch -p1 < ../0002-ALSA-hda-Fix-test-for-inv_eapd-in-ad198x_shutup_writ.patch
[23:56] <BUGabundo> patching file sound/pci/hda/patch_analog.c
[23:56] <crimsun> BUGabundo: then, ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-card-options=all && make -j3
[23:57] <crimsun> BUGabundo: also, I'll need your /proc/asound/card*/codec* pastebinned somewhere
[23:59] <BUGabundo> crimsun: now or after reboot ?
[23:59] <crimsun> BUGabundo: sometime, it doesn't really matter
[23:59] <crimsun> BUGabundo: so, sudo make install && sudo rm -f /etc/init.d/alsasound