[00:38] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500316
[00:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500316 in python-distutils-extra "Needs support for apport hooks and config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500316
[01:00] <hggdh> cjohnston: done
[09:00] <Hew> What's the best way to get bug 203158 noticed/fixed? It should be easy enough to fix, it requires some dependencies to be swapped around.
[09:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 203158 in libsdl1.2 "libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio must be installed as default by libsdl1.2debian" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203158
[13:16] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[13:16] <PrototypeX29A> is it worth to file a bug in rhythmbox?
[13:17] <zoglesby> why would it not be?
[13:17] <PrototypeX29A> just asking :)
[13:18] <zoglesby> I was not sure if you knew something I did not
[13:19] <PrototypeX29A> i noticed it is version 0.12 so i should not wonder, why some features are not working.
[13:19] <PrototypeX29A> merely i could wonder why it is included by default
[13:20] <zoglesby> PrototypeX29A: the version I have in karmic is 0.12.5 and thats the latest sable
[13:22] <PrototypeX29A> ok, probably one can't just include amarok in gnome distro :)
[13:23] <PrototypeX29A> i will just look after that bug :)
[13:24] <zoglesby> that's not a bug, nothing is wrong with the application, just your prefrence
[13:24] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500527
[13:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500527 in ocropus "Please update to version 0.4." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500527
[13:25] <PrototypeX29A> zoglesby: no i have a real bug
[13:25] <PrototypeX29A> lp #164586
[13:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 164586 in rhythmbox ""Open" button in Import Folder in Rhythmbox does nothing if pressed immediately in certain folders" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164586
[13:26] <PrototypeX29A> zoglesby: if it is just a preference to have a "finished" piece of software, yes :)
[13:27] <PrototypeX29A> i think rhythmbox will be nicer, and less bloated than amarok, when it is done, though
[13:27] <PrototypeX29A> but this is not the topic for this chan i guess :)
[13:30] <zoglesby> PrototypeX29A: there was talk of moving to banshee in karmic but that didn't happen using amarok means including extra libs so you would have to cut stuff to keep the live-cd iso under 700mb
[13:30] <cjohnston> wishlist 500475
[13:31] <PrototypeX29A> i see
[13:32] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500475
[13:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500475 in libdevel-nytprof-perl "sync to new 3.00 version from CPAN" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500475
[13:40] <PrototypeX29A> is there a way to link my new bug lp #500534 the old one?
[13:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500534 in rhythmbox ""The folder could not be created" when trying to open folder." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500534
[13:40] <PrototypeX29A> these them to be related
[13:40] <PrototypeX29A> or do i have to just add it as a comment?
[13:42] <zoglesby> PrototypeX29A: whats your bug?
[13:45] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500457
[13:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500457 in samba "Please backport fix for point&print samba support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500457
[13:45] <PrototypeX29A> i filed the 500534
[13:46] <PrototypeX29A> but i am also able to reproduce lp 164586
[13:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 164586 in rhythmbox ""Open" button in Import Folder in Rhythmbox does nothing if pressed immediately in certain folders" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164586
[15:01] <hggdh> cjohnston: done
[15:02] <cjohnston> :-)
[15:02] <BUGabundo> hey hggdh
[15:03] <hggdh> Oi BUGabundo
[15:04] <hggdh> ding-o-bell a ti
[15:05] <BUGabundo> LOL
[15:05] <BUGabundo> what the heck is that?
[15:05] <hggdh> what that? the ding-o-bell, or the 'a ti'
[15:06] <BUGabundo> ahahahaahahahha
[15:06] <BUGabundo> cromito
[15:06] <hggdh> heh
[15:06] <BUGabundo> http://www.wilddingo.com/2009/12/02/dingo-bells/
[15:06] <BUGabundo> deixa la ber
[15:07] <BUGabundo> obrg mas ja tenho um cao :D
[15:08] <hggdh> pois tenho 3 :-)
[15:10] <BUGabundo> was any grub or kernel released today or this last week for karmic?
[15:10] <cjohnston> hggdh: bug 500118 alsa or linux?
[15:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500118 in awn-extras "Mail applet creates infinite number of error windows" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500118
[15:10] <BUGabundo> got 3 separte users saying they can't boot
[15:10] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems this makes it look like it should be also since the source package is alsa-driver
[15:11] <cjohnston> Just want to see if I'm understanding correctly.
[15:11] <hggdh> cjohnston: to begin with, this is a PPA version of AWN
[15:12] <cjohnston> oops
[15:12] <cjohnston> bug 500188
[15:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500188 in ubuntu "no sound is played" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500188
[15:12] <cjohnston> lmao
[15:12] <cjohnston> typo
[15:12] <hggdh> also, it is not in Ubuntu, but in AWN
[15:12] <cjohnston> ^^
[15:12] <hggdh> ah, typo ;-)
[15:14] <cjohnston> that look a little more like I know a little bit of what I'm talking about?
[15:15] <hggdh> cjohnston: set it to alsa-base, and ask the OR to run ubuntu-bug -p alsa-base on it
[15:16] <hggdh> may be either linux or alsa, let's asusme alsa rigth now, better than Ubuntu
[15:16] <hggdh> brb -- time for the h1n1 vaccine
[15:17] <cjohnston> yummy.. i got mine a few weeks ago
[15:17] <hggdh> :-)
[15:24] <cjohnston> -p is deprecieated.. h,,
[15:42] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500385
[15:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500385 in ubuntu "feature request: spice protocol support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500385
[16:02] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500093
[16:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500093 in mysql-gui-tools "Sync mysql-gui-tools 5.0r14+openSUSE-2 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500093
[16:25] <PrototypeX29A> i want to record a bug as affecting another project, but how do i now the exact package name of that projecft
[16:25] <cyphermox> cjohnston, done
[16:25] <PrototypeX29A> i mean i found the page in launchpad, but i don't know how to specify the project
[16:25] <PrototypeX29A> as there is no identifier
[16:26] <cyphermox> PrototypeX29A, you mean there is a package in ubuntu but no project in Launchpad?
[16:26] <PrototypeX29A> there is a projeft in launchpad
[16:27] <PrototypeX29A> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc
[16:27] <PrototypeX29A> how do i refer to this project?
[16:28] <PrototypeX29A> when i just say "vlc" i probably will geht the upstream package or some other package
[16:29] <PrototypeX29A> here is a little box where i can enter a string: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/164586/+choose-affected-product
[16:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 164586 in rhythmbox ""Open" button in Import Folder in Rhythmbox does nothing if pressed immediately in certain folders" [Low,Triaged]
[16:29] <PrototypeX29A> there has to be some way to do that
[16:30] <cyphermox> the +source/vlc page isn't a project though -- it's just a page for the vlc source package. https://edge.launchpad.net/vlc would be the page for the project, so I'd expect you should be able to specify vlc in the +choose-affected-product page
[16:31] <PrototypeX29A> this does not help me at all
[16:31] <cyphermox> PrototypeX29A,  in choose affected product
[16:32] <cyphermox> you just need to type in 'vlc' for the product.
[16:32] <PrototypeX29A> why?
[16:32] <cyphermox> project, i mean
[16:32] <cyphermox> because the name of the project in launchpad is vlc, the same as the base name for the pages there: http://launchpad.net/vlc, which can be different from the actual package name
[16:33] <PrototypeX29A> what is a project in the context of launchpad?
[16:33] <cyphermox> it's the upstream project, as in a page to describe a software project itself, rather than the pages which result in it's inclusion in Ubuntu or Debian
[16:34] <PrototypeX29A> project always means an upstream project?
[16:34] <cyphermox> ah, pretty much
[16:35] <PrototypeX29A> and a package is an ubuntu package?
[16:35] <cyphermox> in the context of a bug, it usually means the upstream, except for stuff like one hundred paper cuts
[16:35] <cyphermox> yes
[16:36] <PrototypeX29A> why don't i refer to the package, as i am supposed to file bugs for the package?
[16:36] <cyphermox> you'd use "also affects project" in the case where you want to show a bug has been sent upstream, and the package to say that in ubuntu, that package also shows the bug
[16:37] <PrototypeX29A> so what i really want to say is "Also affects package"?
[16:37] <cyphermox> also affects distribution
[16:37] <cyphermox> and in there specify the package
[16:37] <PrototypeX29A> ah ic
[16:38] <cyphermox> and you might want to update the title if vlc is really affected by bug 164586 as well, if you can :)
[16:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 164586 in rhythmbox ""Open" button in Import Folder in Rhythmbox does nothing if pressed immediately in certain folders" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164586
[16:41] <PrototypeX29A> thanks, this was kind of non-intuitive
[16:42] <cyphermox> sorry i misunderstood what you meant at first
[17:25] <cjohnston> bug 500563 - I'm not finding a package pygtksourceview, but I do find a python-gtksourceview and a python-gtksourceview2 - I guess he is referring to python-gtksourceview2, but im not sure.. in karmic and lucid is is 2.8.0, so that would be my guess.. any idea?
[17:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500563 in pygtksourceview "Update to 2.9.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500563
[17:29] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500562
[17:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500562 in gmchess "Please sync gmchess 0.20.4-2 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500562
[17:30] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500561
[17:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500561 in raul "Sync raul 0.5.1-2 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500561
[17:31] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 500556
[17:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500556 in google-gadgets "the karmic version in the repository is out of date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500556
[17:40] <cjohnston> wishlist bug 499914
[17:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 499914 in egroupware "Please package the 1.6.002 version of eGroupware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499914
[18:28] <SoftwareExplorer> What's the process for collecting info to file a bug report when a python application has a segmentation fault?
[18:37] <hggdh> cjohnston: all done
[18:38] <hggdh> SoftwareExplorer: segv in a python programme sounds like a bug in python itself of one of its libraries
[18:38] <hggdh> SoftwareExplorer: so -- if you can recreate a small test case that gets the error, perfect
[18:39] <SoftwareExplorer> hggdh: You mean like a steps to reproduce this problem with the program, or my own python code?
[18:39] <cjohnston> thank hggdh
[18:40] <hggdh> SoftwareExplorer: how to reproduce would be very good
[18:42] <SoftwareExplorer> hggdh: I think I can do that :) Trying to figure out what python code is causing the interpreter to misbehave is a bit beyond what I know how to :)
[20:38] <LimCore> hi, why tor is not in ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10?  Can be installed from external repo ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR ) but why so?  What would help to get it to main repo?
[21:02] <jpds> LimCore: sync-blacklist: tor # unmaintained and bitrots fast, LP #328442
[21:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 328442 in tor "Tor 0.1.2.x abandoned by upstream, update to 0.2.0.34" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328442
[22:45] <AntonyS> Hi, I am learning to triage and I just mistakenly set a bug as duplicate but am wondering if the bugs are related/similar enough that they should be merged, would anyone be able to advise?
[22:47] <hggdh> AntonyS: what are the bug #s?
[22:48] <AntonyS> 500618 and 500610
[22:48] <hggdh> bug 500618
[22:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500618 in nautilus "Clicking eject icon in nautilus doesn't work for blank disks. (dup-of: 500610)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500618
[22:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500610 in nautilus "No "eject" context-menu option for blank disks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500610
[22:48] <AntonyS> ah, that's cool :)
[22:48] <hggdh> :-)
[22:49] <AntonyS> I rushed reading the bug and wrong considered them as a duplicate, but before I undo I wonder about if they're similar enough to be at least merged
[22:50] <hggdh> AntonyS: no exactly a dup, but so near I am not sure it makes a difference keeping them separate.
[22:50] <hggdh> so yes, you can add in the description of '10 the difference in '18
[22:50] <hggdh> and keep it dupped
[22:50] <AntonyS> ok, thanks :)
[22:51] <hggdh> AntonyS: welcome, and thank you for helping
[22:51] <AntonyS> I don't suppose you are able to try reproducing the bug if you're in karmic?
[22:51] <AntonyS> I'm still in jaunty on my desktop and couldn't reproduce
[22:51] <hggdh> and I am on Lucid, but I will try
[22:51] <AntonyS> older version of nautilus, so could be a regression
[22:52] <hggdh> let us see what happen...
[22:54] <hggdh> I only see unmount
[22:56] <hggdh> and only I click on the eject icon, I am thrown back into my home dir, and nothing happens
[22:56] <hggdh> nothing else, I mean
[22:56] <AntonyS> ok
[22:57] <AntonyS> so the bug can be confirmed then, I suppose as you are the one who can reproduce it you should do it?
[22:57] <AntonyS> or can I have the fun? :)
[23:01] <hggdh> AntonyS: since I confirmed, I have to mark it so (already done)
[23:01] <AntonyS> :) bah, so far I have only marked as duplicate, was looking forward to something new ;)
[23:02] <hggdh> but -- if you cannot reproduce it on Jaunty, then this is also good to know, and is a regression in functionality
[23:02] <hggdh> and -- the Cream On Top -- we need to check upstream if this is known; if not, open a bug upstream.
[23:02] <hggdh> then link the upstream bug onto the LP one
[23:03] <AntonyS> already writing now that i can't reproduce in jaunty, what command did you use for your package list output?
[23:03] <hggdh> AntonyS: so there is a lot of new stuff for you here ;-)
[23:03] <AntonyS> looking upstream now
[23:03] <hggdh> I just ran 'dpkg -l nautilus\*'
[23:18] <AntonyS> all done I think
[23:28] <hggdh> AntonyS: indeed, thank you. I marked it triaged
[23:33] <hggdh> nigel_nb: ping
[23:34] <nigel_nb> hey hggdh
[23:34] <nigel_nb> merry christmas :)
[23:34] <hggdh> ding-o-bell, nigel_nb
[23:34] <hggdh> :-)
[23:34] <nigel_nb> ;)
[23:37] <BUGabundo> lolol
[23:37]  * BUGabundo thinks hggdh is trying to sell cheap dingos he got from his last trip
[23:38]  * nigel_nb has to triage bugs more
[23:40] <hggdh> no, it happens I do not follow xmas (I am not Christian)
[23:40]  * hggdh agrees with nigel_nb... ;-)
[23:41] <hggdh> but I *do* appreciate the time off ;-)
[23:42] <nigel_nb> monday on, I've set a schedule ;)
[23:43] <nigel_nb> brb
[23:43]  * micahg likes triaging bugs :)
[23:43]  * hggdh also likes triaging
[23:43] <BUGabundo> hggdh: I'm not chritian either
[23:45]  * nigel_nb is back
[23:48] <nigel_nb> micahg: its not that I dont like, got drowned with real life
[23:48]  * micahg can empathize nigel_nb
[23:49] <nigel_nb> :)
[23:50]  * nigel_nb is out hunting for low hanging fruit to learn fixing bugs