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r00t_ninjathats where it normally is , its not loading for me either00:00
sapablobut when I restart my computer I can't see the printer00:00
sapabloI nedd to make another samba restart00:00
simo___hello00:00
sapablodo you understand to me?00:01
simo___i wanna install a windows7 in my cumpeter00:01
simo___without loose my lilo00:01
simo___it's posible ?00:01
r00t_ninjasapablo: if you put that in your rc.local it will run that command automatically on boot00:04
r00t_ninjaas a quick work around00:04
r00t_ninjasimo___: i think the windows 7 bootloader will be installed over your existing one00:05
r00t_ninjasapablo: edit /etc/rc.local00:05
sapablobut in the console I need to do samba with sudo00:05
simo___i don't know00:06
sapabloDo it will works in rc.local without sudo?00:06
r00t_ninjasapablo: it will be run with root priveleges00:06
sapabloaa ok00:06
simo___the proble is i have it in a image iso00:06
sapabloI'm gonna try00:06
r00t_ninjasimo___: you have to burn that image to a disc00:06
simo___then00:06
simo___install it i a partition00:06
simo___i will lose a lilo no ?00:07
r00t_ninjasimo___: yes00:07
simo___so i will lose of my Kubuntu data?00:08
simo___the unic way is install kubuntu agail ? o there is a solucion00:08
r00t_ninjasimo___: im not sure you might want to try a windows irc00:08
r00t_ninjachannel00:09
r00t_ninjai think if you create the partition before hand you can install it there00:09
sapabloI did it, I'm going to restart my machine, thanks00:09
r00t_ninjaand then all you need to do is reinstall your boot loader00:09
simo___i have a patrition, totaly impty00:10
simo___empty00:10
gkffjcs_Hey all, how exactly do I go about setting up dual monitors? I have my laptop, echoing out to both monitors, with the same desktop, which I don't want, I would like to have an extended desktop spanning the two monitors, if I go to "Multiple Monitors" options, I simply see a message that says it does not appear that you have two monitors00:15
r00t_ninjagkffjcs_: what is the make/model of your graphics chip00:16
r00t_ninjaif you are not sure open up konsole and type: lspci | grep VGA00:18
gkffjcs_intel 82852/855GM according00:18
gkffjcs_I can't copy and past the output since I'm running konversation on a different computer.00:18
r00t_ninjaok00:18
r00t_ninjaive only done this with a nvidia card so im not sure if i had another monitor i would try00:20
gkffjcs_right now, I have the same single desktop copied accross both monitors, also, kde does recognize the second monitor as existing, I just can't figure out how to make extended desktop work.00:21
gkffjcs_I don't know if this is right, but I don't think it's a driver problem as much as it is a configuration problem.00:22
soeehey guys whats wrong with this line: cmake --release -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde**4**-config --prefix` ../00:24
r00t_ninjagkffjcs_: could you take screenshots of the Display settings in system settings00:26
gkffjcs_sure.. give me a minute00:27
r00t_ninjasorry im just not sure what it looks like with two monitors plugged in00:28
gkffjcs_what site should I upload it to? Pastebin doesn't seem to have that functionality.00:30
r00t_ninjatinypic maybe00:30
r00t_ninjaalso try krandrtray00:30
gkffjcs_http://i47.tinypic.com/bwltc.png00:33
r00t_ninjadoes identify outputs do anything00:34
gkffjcs_It shows both outputs on both displays.. so basically nothing worthwhile00:34
r00t_ninjaafter you click identify has anything changed in multiple monitors00:35
gkffjcs_Nope00:36
r00t_ninjagkffjcs_: have you opened up krandrtray?00:38
Walzmynknetworkmanager dosen't load on startup, how can I fix this?00:38
gkffjcs_yup, and it pretty much does the exact same thing.00:42
r00t_ninjacan you right click on the tray icon and see the options00:43
r00t_ninjaare there any special options lol?00:43
gkffjcs_nope, their exactly the same as in system settings, and the have equally non existent effect00:44
r00t_ninjahttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107874.000:45
r00t_ninjathe fix will only be available in 10.04 :(00:47
r00t_ninjahowever that post offers a workaround00:47
gkffjcs_That forum post did exactly nothing.00:59
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Walzmynknetworkmanager dosen't load on startup, how can I fix this?01:48
DarkriftXdoes anyone here know about software/hardware mouse rendering? how to enable/disable01:50
DarkriftXor what term i would google?01:50
r00t_ninjaDarkriftX: try disabling desktop effects01:53
DarkriftXit is disabled on kwin and ive tried kwin and compiz01:53
DarkriftXboth are doing the same thing01:53
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apparlemaco: you there?02:00
TheoryIS there any way to change the behaviour of toolbars so they wrap onto multiple lines, instead of showing the button on the right hand side to grow them?02:11
FloodBotK1!netsplit02:15
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit02:15
nate_anybody want to help me get audio from firefox?02:21
soeewhat do u mean by get audio from firefox ?02:22
nate_i think there is a problem with flash, i get video but no audio from youtube and pandora.  it is the same with konquorer02:24
rstob911go to kmix and make sure the pcm is all the way up02:24
nate_duh, thanks.  i wonder why it was down.02:25
rstob911dont know02:25
rstob911it is by default02:26
nate_so it may be from rebooting to switch to windows and back.02:27
rstob911dont know but now you know how to fix it lol02:27
nate_right, lol02:28
DragnslcrI've had that problem too, with the master channel getting muted on boot02:28
rstob911yea alot of little ticks with this one02:29
nate_do you know if it is normal for a pci video card to not work @ bios or post or whatever?02:29
nate_or anytime thereafter02:30
nate_im not sure if its a driver thing or it busted.02:30
rstob911if you have two cards one integrated and one pci they sometimes fight each other02:31
nate_i changed bios to default to pci if there is both and got nothing.  also disabled onboard vga still nothing.02:32
rstob911hmm not sure then02:33
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apparlenate_: check the connections maybe its loose or something like that02:36
nate_i reseated it numerous times but nothing.02:39
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bbteomanhi02:44
bbteomani need some help02:44
Walzmynbbteoman: just ask your question02:45
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menguhanssondoes any one have any insight to how to get ssh-add to run "automagically" whenever i try to ssh to something so that i dont have to enter my passphrase for my key all the time?02:57
menguhanssoni have my pub-key installed on the remote host and the auth works, I just dont want to have to enter the passphrase every time, its enought if i enter it once during the session. I can do it by manually running ssh-add as long as ssh-agent is running, but how do i avoid doing it manually, starting ssh-add that is....02:59
INIT_6I think I am missing a step. Isn't their a way to setup NFS shares using the GUI. If I right click on a file and go to properties -> share -> configure file sharing.. some times it ask for the root password but doesn't do anything after that. Also went to system settings share but that screen looks different now just has windows shares. I have NFS-kernel-server, NFS-common, portmap installed.   Or should I quit being a wuss and 03:02
bbteomanhow can i install kde netbook on my kubuntu?03:10
bbteomani tried kpackage kit but it did nothing.03:11
bbteomanany idea03:11
bbteomanbtw i just wanna try kde netbook as my second desktop environment03:12
bbteomanis it possible?03:12
Omar87_How do I make my bug reports more useful?03:16
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semehey guys... can anyone help me out... I've been using ubuntu for a while and I've had a hard time using kde... it just didn't feel polished in previous releases but in this release things are much better03:35
semeI'm having a problem getting the fonts just right though03:36
semeand getting my standard gnome apps to fit in03:36
semeanyone have any recommendations for getting the fonts to look good?03:36
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DarkriftXgod damnit04:06
DarkriftXthis mouse crap is making my system unusable04:06
sravanIs there an itunes for Linux ?? gtkpod is just inserting songs but damaging IPOD's database05:22
draik!printer05:34
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:34
draikDid something change in 9.10 for adding a printer?05:39
ewyeqweHullo05:40
Ben^I'm wanting to script control of an old app that runs in text mode. To do this I need to be able to query the screen (via stdout I guess) to make decisions on what to do next via the script. What would be a good way to do this? I'm looking at cURL right now as it has basic telnet support, so I'm thinking of making a telnet session to localhost and then starting the app. Seems overly complicated though.05:44
Ben^Oh, and Hey :)05:44
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Ben^D:05:50
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ilembitovHi, all. Is Koffice 2.1 available for Kubuntu in any of the PPAs?06:26
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Soslashi06:32
Soslashow do i enable the ssh daemon in kubuntu06:32
r00t_ninjaSoslas: sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:36
Soslasoh'06:36
Soslasr00t_ninja after that how do i enable the ssh daemon06:42
rbhI am new to Kubuntu.  My laptop has three HDD's previously configured as LVM encrypted under Fedora.  Now under Kubuntu, it only recognizes the primary drive (/dev/sda).  I have installed gparted and it sees the other drives.  How would I get the other two drives mounted and then extended into the LVM?  I used the alternative CD installation so that I would have LVM enabled.06:43
r00t_ninjaSoslas: reboot or /etc/init.d/ssh start06:43
Soslasr00t_ninja : ok, is openssh client06:46
Soslasneeded too?06:46
r00t_ninjathat comes by default06:46
r00t_ninjassh 127.0.0.1 to test if openssh-server is running06:46
Soslassays06:48
Soslasthe connection could not be establised\06:48
r00t_ninjadid you start ssh?06:48
Soslasyes06:48
Soslasas sudo06:48
Soslas(without sudo i had some errors, some rss keys couldnt be loaded)06:48
Soslasis this good06:50
Soslasr00t_ninja06:51
r00t_ninjayes06:51
Soslasi started it with sudo06:51
Soslascause without it some erros occured06:51
r00t_ninjayour meant to06:51
Soslasok06:52
r00t_ninjayou should be able to establish a connection with:06:52
Soslasi will try using my shh app now06:52
Soslasi use an automated app06:52
r00t_ninjassh 127.0.0.106:52
r00t_ninjaok06:52
Soslasshouldnt? i type06:52
Soslasssh Hostname?06:52
Soslasshh 192.168.1.4 is the static ip i have assigned to my other pc06:53
r00t_ninjaoh ok06:53
r00t_ninjai thought you were doing it on the same computer06:53
Soslasoh no06:53
Soslasanyway thanks06:53
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Roastedwhats up everybody06:58
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Soslasr00t_ninja:06:59
Soslashow do i get the root account for kubuntu?06:59
Roastedyou dont06:59
Roastedsudo = root access06:59
Soslasi need it06:59
Roastedjust use sudo for whatever root level commands you need06:59
Soslasi need to be able to have a root user06:59
Roasted..why would you need the root account06:59
SoslasRoasted: i use it on a livecd07:00
Soslasdont worry07:00
RoastedIm pretty sure the livecd user is a root level user anyway07:00
Soslasand i try to connecti via ssh07:00
r00t_ninjause sudo -s07:00
r00t_ninjassh client doesnt require root07:00
Soslasr00t_ninja: but there are some files i have no access to as the normal user07:01
Soslas(in my internal hdd)07:01
Soslasso i guess if i remote ssh to it07:01
Soslaswith the normal user i wont be able to copy them07:01
Roastedif you can see the files, you should be able to copy them07:02
r00t_ninjawhen you connect to it via ssh you can choose what user to log into07:02
r00t_ninjassh -l username07:02
r00t_ninjassh address -l username07:02
r00t_ninja^07:02
Soslasi told u i use an automated app07:02
Soslasit only takes a hostname07:02
Soslasa username07:02
Soslasand a pass07:02
r00t_ninjaoh i see now07:02
r00t_ninjahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:03
r00t_ninjayou can find how to unlock the root account there07:03
Soslasdo i need to run07:04
Soslasapt-get install root-system-bin?07:04
r00t_ninjano07:05
r00t_ninjai think its07:05
r00t_ninjasudo passwd root07:05
cjae!reader07:05
cjae! info reader07:06
cjaeum07:06
Soslassudo passwd root07:06
Soslasis this enough07:06
Soslasok07:06
Soslasworked07:08
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naftilos76hi everyone, how can i append my signature at the end of each newly written message?07:11
naftilos76is there an automated way?07:11
naftilos76to save several signatures with images and stuff and have them handy for every message that you write?07:11
naftilos76anyone? I'm using the latest kubuntu 9.10!07:11
FloodBotK1naftilos76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:11
naftilos76ok sorry07:11
naftilos76I'm refering to kmail!07:11
r00t_ninjanaftilos76: try settings -> configure kmail07:13
r00t_ninjachoose the identity and click modify07:14
naftilos76i did that - it's just that i can't find a setting that lets me do that!07:14
r00t_ninjathen go to the signatures tab07:14
naftilos76i can't seem to find that. I am in the "Composing" section but the tabs do not refer to 'signatures'07:16
r00t_ninjago to the identities section07:17
r00t_ninjado you see a list of identities?07:18
naftilos76ok - i found it!07:18
naftilos76thnks07:18
r00t_ninjanp07:18
r00t_ninjacould someone tell me the default kubuntu font settings07:25
r00t_ninjaor someone with clear fonts what theres are07:25
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Mamarokr00t_ninja: try Liberation Sans07:53
Mamarokand don't put the contrast too high, on dark backgrounds light grey is better than white07:54
r00t_ninjawhat size would you reccomend07:55
Mamarokdepends on your screen resolution07:55
lisenokвсем привет07:55
Mamarok!ru | lisenok07:56
ubottulisenok: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke07:56
r00t_ninjaalso anti-aliazing settings , how can i find the best for my screen?07:56
Mamarokr00t_ninja: well, I can point you to a blog about the best settings, just a moment07:57
r00t_ninjaok thanks07:57
Mamarokr00t_ninja: see here: http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2009/05/kpgp-icon-and-fonts.html08:01
MamarokNuno Pinheiro is the lead artist for Oxygen, which is the default on KDE and Kubuntu08:01
Mamarokand Air, of course08:01
cjaeanyone use calibre, does the devices recently plugged in thing disrupt sending epub's to my sony reader08:48
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e01hello09:08
e01how can i show the desktopp settings dialog09:08
e01i switched from plasma-netbook to plasma-desktop09:08
e01and still the right click doesn`t work09:09
Mamaroke01: did you remove the plasma-netbook package?09:23
e01no09:23
Mamarokthen it is probably still running09:23
e01how to remove it?09:23
Mamarokalso the other one would be kubuntu-desktop09:24
naftilos76hi everyone, is there a repository that contains binary pkgs of latest stable KDE? I'm currently on KDE 4.3.2!09:24
Mamaroke01: I did understand you correctly, you don't want to use the plasma-netbook anymore?09:24
Mamaroknaftilos76: see /topic09:24
e01Mamarok: yes, it`s hardest for me to use the plasma netbook09:24
Mamaroke01: then do the following:09:25
e01than the native plasma-desktop09:25
Mamaroksudo apt-get remove --purge plasma-netbook09:25
Mamaroke01: and make sure you have the kubuntu-desktop installed first: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:25
Mamaroke01: then restart KDE09:26
naftilos76Mamarok - i'm sorry, i don't get it! /topic?09:26
Mamaroknaftilos76: type "/topic" and you will see the links09:27
e01Mamarok: now i have to reboot X09:27
e01Mamarok: now i have to reboot X?09:27
Mamaroke01: yes, restart KDE, that should be enough09:27
naftilos76Mamarok - Where should i type '/topic' ???09:28
Mamarokright here in the IRC client09:28
naftilos76Mamarok - Thanks, i thought you meant in the internet browser on something! I don't really know irc commands! I got it, thanks...09:31
Mamaroknaftilos76: nice :)09:31
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e01Mamarok: now i have other problem09:37
e01when i restart the kde, it start with blank black screen09:38
e01and i have to run manually the plasma-desktop09:38
e01is it possible to fix that09:38
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Mamaroke01: then you are lacking some packages I think, just a second10:02
Mamaroke01: check that you have all kdebase-* packages installed10:04
e01Mamarok: i am a slacker, this kubuntu i just install on my new dell 9 mini10:05
Mamaroke01: well, then you should have sticked to the plasma-netbook10:06
e01because the *ubuntues are more humanity :) but by the way, i know nothin about ubuntu`s packages system10:06
e01can u help me with more basics10:06
Mamarokthe desktop needs more files10:06
Mamarokhow much memory does your dell 9 mini have?10:06
e01i am wondering for some way just to autostart 'plasma-desktop'10:06
Mamaroke01: that should, if you have the relevant packages installed10:07
Mamaroksudo apt-get install kdebase-* should drag in all the packages10:07
e01ahm.. 1gb with 16gb ssd10:07
Mamarokwhich is tiny for a full fledged KDE desktop10:08
Tm_Tkdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace should be enough?10:08
Mamarokyes, still 16 gb ssd doesn't leave much room for user files10:08
Tm_Ttrue that10:08
Tm_Twell, only some ~14 GiB10:09
Mamaroke01: you should stick with plasma-netbook, it is optimized for such devices10:09
MamarokTm_T: not with a full KDE, that takes much more space10:09
Tm_Thmmm, difference is only in how desktop "looks" ?10:09
e01i am with kubuntu netbook remix10:09
Tm_TMamarok: full KDE is something I see rarely installed anyway (:10:10
Tm_Tanyway, irrelevant now10:10
e01and now the system is getting 2.7 gb space10:11
e01i think it isn`t many10:11
e01because on my deskrop`s slackware i am with xfce and the system is using over than 4gb10:11
supunanybody use huawei 156G modem10:12
e01and to say from my opinion these days10:12
e01i think kubuntu nr is faster than unr10:13
e01i don`t know why,... in desktops the gnome is looks faster than kde, but in this remixes knr is better10:13
MamarokTm_T: /me has a full KDE installed, sheer glory :)10:13
emyllersupun: i use Huawei E156, why?10:18
artemis_hey guy10:18
artemis_can i ask a question?10:18
artemis_is there any program like ubuntu-tweak in kde ?10:19
supun_can you connect using Network manager10:19
emyllerartemis_: most of the stuff you find in ubuntu-tweak are already in system-settings.10:19
emyllersupun: yes10:19
artemis_example if i want to clear config file after remove program without purge ?10:20
supun_im using UMTSmon, my networkmanager not work10:20
emyllersupun: http://emyller.net/blog/kubuntu3g/10:21
supun_im using kubuntu 9.0410:22
emyllersupun: that also works for jaunty.10:22
pompa_hi everyone, I'm trying to mount my new ipod using ifuse, but I cannot find the device...10:24
Mamarokartemis_: sudo apt-get autoremove10:24
pompa_I know it is connected because a lsusb gives me a Bus 001 Device 010: ID 05ac:1293 Apple, Inc.10:24
Mamarokpompa_: depends on your firmware version, the newer the device is, the less likely it will be usable with Linux10:25
pompa_Mamarok: But I suppose it should be at least mountable10:25
Mamarokpompa_: do you have libgpod installed?10:25
pompa_Mamarok: not yet10:26
cojackhello guys10:27
cojacksome one upgrade kde to kde 4.4 beta 2 ?10:27
pompa_Mamarok: my problem is the mounting with ifuse10:27
Mamarokpompa_: I can only guess as I don't have such a device, and again, the newer the firmware, the less likely it will work10:28
pompa_Mamarok: i mounted it under gnome some times ago, using the commands: mkdir -p /media/iphone && ifuse /media/iphone10:28
supun__emyller: thanks10:28
Mamarokpompa_: well, then do the same :)10:29
emyllersupun__: yw ;)10:29
pompa_Mamarok: but now it is not working10:29
Mamarokpompa_: then I don't know10:29
pompa_I'm just a newbie to kde so I was wondering if it could be due to some differences between KDE & Gnome10:29
Mamarokno, not AFAIK10:29
supun__emyller: do you use skype10:30
Mamarokcommand line tools are the same10:30
cojack;)10:30
emyllersupun__: rarely.10:30
Peace-zalve10:30
Peace-oh sorry hi :)10:30
cojackpompa_: install yakuake, maybe you'll like it10:30
supun__emyller: i cant connect, it gives me p2p connection failed10:30
Mamarokcojack: I use KDE SC 4.4. beta 2 here, besides some plasma crashes on start it runs fine10:30
emyllersupun__: connect what? skype?10:31
cojackMamarok: any errors with kdb ?10:31
Mamarokcojack: I don't see how yakuake can help mounting an iPhone10:31
supun__emyller: yup10:31
cojackMamarok: it's not for help mount iphone on linux10:31
emyllersupun__: i've no problems with it here other than - fixable - audio issues10:31
Peace-i complete mess upp here with kde 4.4 beta210:31
Peace-don't install it10:32
emyllersupun__: am using the real skype package, provided by skype10:32
supun__emyller: and allso my ktorrent not working10:32
Mamarokcojack: kdb?10:32
emyllerPeace-: let others test it. it's working perfectly here.10:32
cojackMamarok: I have a question about kde 4.4 beta 2, it's posible to have 2 diferent wallpapers on the 2 diferent desktop?10:32
pompa_cojack: seems nice10:32
Mamarokcojack: use activities for that10:32
emyllersupun__: dunno what's happening. maybe someone else can help you if you give more details.10:33
Peace-emyller: if on you machine works that doesn't mean it's working in every machine10:33
Peace-then10:33
emyllerPeace-: if on your machine it doesn't work that doesn't mean it won't work in every machine10:33
emyllerthen10:33
cojackIm still waiting for the same utility in kde 4.x what was in the kde 3.x10:33
MamarokPeace-: it should work on most machines, there are problems qith Qt 4.6.0 with some apps, though, and the occasional plasma crash10:33
Mamarokcojack: don't wait, use the activities10:34
cojackMamarok: what kind of acrivities?10:34
cojackactivities ?10:34
supun__emyller: ktorrent gives me an error when it announcing10:35
Mamarokcojack: click on the cashew icon in the upper right corner, add an activity and change the desktop settings for it10:35
Mamarokcojack: then add the "Activity bar" to each so you can switch10:35
emyllersupun__: maybe your network doesn't allow the p2p protocol or your torrent file is invalid.10:35
Peace-Mamarok: here  plasma doesn't work properly10:35
Peace-Mamarok: with intel driver....10:36
MamarokPeace-: did you erase the config files?10:36
Peace-Mamarok: yap10:36
Peace-:) old kde user here :)10:36
cojackMamarok: I know that, but it isn't so helpfull10:36
MamarokPeace-: well, then file a bug, I have no problems with the Radeon driver for ATI10:36
cojackIt still can set diferent wallpapapers in diferent desktop10:36
cojackwhat in the 3.x was normaly10:36
supun__emyller: no i can use it in windows10:36
Mamarokcojack: because it's not supposed to work, you set different activities with different backgrounds, not on each desktop10:37
cojackcan/can't *10:37
emyllersupun__: then i dont know what's happening.10:37
Peace-Mamarok: no well now i can't i messed up the system so i have , in 15 minutes, reset my system back yo kubuntu with 4.3.410:37
supun__emyller: :-/10:37
cojackMamarok: and about plasma plugins on desktop, you also can set it on what desktop you like it to show10:37
MamarokPeace-: that's the whole point of testing a pre-release: testing and filing bugs10:37
cojackcan/can't holly shit ;p10:37
Mamarokcojack: again, please read what I told you: you don't make settings specific to a particular desktop, it is not intended like this in KDE 4.x, use the activities10:38
Mamarok!language | cojack10:38
ubottucojack: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.10:38
cojackIm sory10:38
Peace-Mamarok: i had to use my computer .... :)10:39
cojackMamarok: I still dont understand you10:39
cojackwhat acitivities?10:40
cojackwhere to find it10:40
Mamarokcojack: you can't set per desktop wallpapers and widgets, and it will never work like that, that's what the activities are for10:40
cojackso tell me what is that activities?10:40
Mamarokcojack: read again what I said above, but I will repeat it here: click on the icon in the upper right corner of the desktop and add activities10:41
Mamarokcojack: I already told you so earlier, read what I write, please10:41
cojackMamarok: can you give me a hint like a screenshot, becouse I can't find any activities there10:42
Mamarokcojack: which Kubuntu and KDE version do you have?10:42
emyllercojack: minimize every window. do you see a small thing in the top right corner with the Plasma logo?10:43
emyllerthe you control your activities.10:43
cojackMamarok: the nevest10:43
Mamarokcojack: if you click on that icon in the upper right corner you get a menu10:43
cojackemyller: ofcourse10:43
cojackMamarok: yes10:43
Mamarokread what that menu shows you10:43
emyllercojack: *there10:43
cojackadd desktop element and others...10:43
cojackit's in my language, I have problem to translate it10:44
Mamarokcojack: don't read it here, read for yourself, does it talk about "Add activity"?10:44
cojacknope ;/10:44
cojackcan you show my a screenshot?10:44
emyllerVirtual Desktops are subitems of an Activity. they will inherit the activity settings such as wallpaper10:44
Mamarokif not, click on zoom out and you will see your desktop with a menu in the bottom left where you can add another activity with a + sign10:44
cojackwow10:45
cojackwhat is that10:45
Mamarokwell, click on the + sign and choose "add an activity"10:45
cojackyou mean a plasma widget?10:46
emyllerno10:46
Mamarokno, a new activity10:46
Mamarokemyller: do you have KDE 4.3.4?10:46
emyllerMamarok: no :|10:47
emyllerMamarok: you on 4.4 too?10:47
Mamarokyes :)10:47
cojackMamarok: I can't find it :(10:47
Mamarokcojack: you have a green + sign in the bottom right of the desktop, no?10:47
cojackno10:47
cojackwait10:47
cojackyes ;p10:47
emyllercojack: explore your plasma desktop and find the add activity option10:47
emyllerit's very easy, i used it on kde4.3.x, but i don't remember exactly where it was10:48
Mamarokcojack: in the upper left corner you should have also a menu now10:48
emyllerMamarok: he will find it :)10:50
cojackMamarok: Im still can't find any add activity10:51
emyllercojack: zoom out your current activity. i am sure you'll find it there.10:52
cojackIn this menu I have add activity, but this option is disabled10:52
Mamarokcojack: then you have something missing in your installation10:52
emyllerlol10:53
cojackhahaha ;p10:53
Mamarokcojack: do you have all plasma packages installed?10:55
Mamarokcojack: if you install the package kdeplasma-addons that should work, also you should have all kdebase-* packages10:57
maksymilianamikrofon jest nieczynny10:58
maek0how do I install KDE 4.4 b2 without affecting my GNOME install ???11:01
pompa_one more question, I made a fresh install over a previous ubuntu one, Having the old home folder on a different partition I preserved all the datas, but I preserved also the old file association, and, for example, now my stupid stupid pc tries to open my media with vlc wich is not installed. How should I do?11:02
Mamarokmaek0: see the topic11:04
Mamarokthe link gives you all instructions needed, just keep in mind it is a pre-release11:04
Mamarokpompa_: the configuration files are in $HOME/.kde/share/config/11:04
maek0Mamarok, yeah but that will put KDE stuff in my GNOME menus ..11:05
Mamarokmaek0: well, can't you disable that in the Gnome menu?11:06
maek0I remember there was a way to install KDE 4 into /opt/ so it would be separate to the GNOME install11:06
maek0how can I do that ??11:06
Mamarokmaek0: I don't know about that, sorry11:06
maek0oh okay11:07
Mamarokmaek0: I remember an option in the Gnome menu not to show KDE apps, once upon a time, maybe they removed that11:07
vipHi there11:09
Mamarok!hi | vip11:09
ubottuvip: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!11:09
vipdoes kubuntu-9.10 CD has sshd started by default?11:09
maek0Mamarok, thanks you have given me an idea ... its just that I'm itching to try out KDE 4.4 !!11:10
cojackvip: see the rc.d11:11
vipI can't11:12
cojackwhy?11:12
vipcause I've no physical access to .iso11:12
cojackahh see11:12
* cojack have no idea11:12
pompa_Mamarok: wich is the one with file associations?11:13
pompa_Mamarok: and can i simply remove the links or should i modify the actual ones?11:13
Mamarokpompa_: I don't know, but you can also change the file associations in the Systemsettings11:13
jc0694hello.  how do i quickly check disk space usage?  i'd like to do this from a gui if possible12:00
Mamarokjc0694: filelight is a nice tool12:02
Mamarokbut not exactly quick on large disks for the first scan12:02
Mamarokthe fastest way is in the command line: df12:02
fantihello, when i play a video and having desktop effects enabled, the window which displays the video flickers a lot! i'm using the latest fglrx driver. any ideas?12:03
Mamarokfanti: disable the desktop effects, that uses a lot of RAM12:04
Mamarokfanti: how much RAM do you have?12:04
fantiMamarok: i've 4 gb of ram and 512 mb of dedicated graphics memory12:05
Mamarokshould be enough, something else running that uses a lot of memory? You can check with top or htop (not installed by default, but much nicer than top)12:05
fantinot even 50% of the RAM is used12:06
Mamarokfanti: which Kubuntu are you running? If it is 9.10, try the radeon driver, works better than the fglrx one12:06
fantidoes the radeon driver support 3d acceleration?12:06
fanti4 month ago (last time i checked this), radeon does not support 3d acceleration for my graphics card12:09
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soeehi12:15
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petsoundshi soee12:21
jc0694Mamarok, is filelight a built in tool in kubuntu 9.04?12:30
jc0694Mamarok, u there?12:34
Mamarokjc0694: no, not at all, you need to install it12:34
Mamaroksorry, was afk12:34
jeponghello... is there a fix/patch for the MSI WInd U100 brightness bug?12:34
jc0694no worries... is filelight a built in tool for kubuntu 9.4?12:36
jc0694*9.04?12:36
jc0694anybody know a built in utility in kubuntu 9.04 for looking at disk space?12:42
jc0694anybody?12:43
Tm_Tjc0694: you can install filelight from repositories12:43
jc0694Tm_T, is that a widget thingie?12:43
OxDeadC0dedf -h, du -h, uhh from the repos: various cli tools, filelight, baobab12:44
jc0694i'm looking for a gui already built into 9.04.  any ideas... i would try file light but i don't know much about installing apps yet12:48
jc0694Tm_T, u there?12:49
jc0694do u delete an application simply by manually deleting the directory and all files associated with it?  i mean, there's no registry or anything like that right?12:57
jc0694i have matlab installed and i'm trying to free up some space so do i just delete the installation directory and everything in it?12:58
jc0694does anybody every help anybody in this chat?12:58
jc0694is this the right place to find somebody to help me?12:59
jc0694hello?12:59
||arifaXjc0694: half of your question could be answered by google12:59
||arifaXjc0694: learn how to install apps if you want to install apps13:00
bearbonezjc0694: remove software using the kpackagekit app13:00
jc0694everything could be answered by google.... but i'm here instead13:00
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jc0694thanks bearbonez...13:02
bearboneznp13:02
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radicaledhi13:12
radicaledim from venezuela13:12
reniferhello13:38
reniferhow to change click+wheel (on mouse) to wheel? (kde4+ubuntu)13:39
renifer(like windows)13:39
bearbonezrenifer: try Systemsettings > keyboard&mouse13:45
reniferi tried this ;)13:45
reniferbut in systemsettings i don't see this13:46
renifer100%13:46
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punkerzeckekann mir einer helfen mp3 widerkabe mit kubundu 9.1113:48
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pompa_I need help for compiling from sources, anyone can help me? I'm at this point: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1442aa8714:02
pompa_  Could NOT find QImageBlitz (missing: QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES14:09
pompa_  QIMAGEBLITZ_LIBRARIES)14:09
pompa_How to solve it?14:09
FloodBotK1pompa_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.14:09
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kermit_Dear all, how can I install kubuntu from hard disk by setting grub? I don't what to use wubi.exe.14:40
kermit_How can I config the grub?14:40
kermit_I have uncompress the kubuntu.iso file on a fat32 disk14:41
chibi-wingkermit_: 1 question, what os are you running right now?14:41
kermit_kubuntu14:42
kermit_I want to reinstall it14:42
chibi-wingfrom what a cd?14:42
kermit_kubuntu-9.04-desktop14:42
chibi-wingare you running from a wubi install or a cd?14:43
kermit_yes, I run from wubi installed from windows using this cd14:43
chibi-wingdo you have space for the real install?14:44
kermit_Now,I want to reinstall it by setting grub, I want to remove windows.14:44
kermit_60G in total14:44
kermit_I want install ubuntu only14:44
kermit_I don't like windows, but I have no a kubuntu cd.14:45
chibi-wingok right now your running kubuntu from the cd and nor wubi right?14:45
chibi-wingyou can't do that14:45
chibi-wingsince the system is on the windows partition14:45
chibi-wingthat you will be deleting14:45
kermit_No, I have installed kubuntu in my system14:45
kermit_Not wubi14:45
chibi-wingso you have a real kubuntu install on the comp?14:46
kermit_I want to install a real and only Linux system on my PC14:46
kermit_Yes14:46
chibi-wingwhy not just delete the windows paritition14:46
chibi-wingand resize the kubuntu one?14:46
kermit_I want to resize all the paritition include / and /home and others14:47
kermit_any way to do that?14:47
kermit_I remembered set grub can reboot system the uncompressed disk14:47
kermit_And run a "live cd" from this disk14:47
kermit_Then install ...14:48
chibi-wingyou know how to use pastebin?14:48
chibi-wingpost up your partition profile14:49
chibi-wingthat way we can see what can be done14:50
chibi-wingand also14:50
chibi-wingyour mount profile14:50
kermit_chibi-wing, can I just reinstall it? Now I have no a real linux paritition. I don't understant what you told me, sorry.14:51
kermit_where's my partition profile?14:52
kermit_thanks14:52
kermit_fdisk -l ?14:52
pompa_ehm... I have the locale setting in Italian, but half of the system is in english. At the first boot a message appeared, telling me that I had to install some ackages for the italian languages, but at that time I accidentally close that window and it never showed up again, how can I do?15:07
FloodBotK1!netsplit15:15
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit15:15
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FloodBotK1!netsplit15:40
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit15:40
Illusioneer1i am not sure if this is a question for this channel or the vmware channel, but I am running koala as a vm in my mac, are there any howtos for kernel tuning a linux OS for running on vmware?15:45
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volcano1dHELLO.DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE WRT54GL LINXYS RUTER??15:58
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volcano1dLINKSYS RUTER15:58
[azrael]what was the last kubuntu release that supported kde3?16:19
peace-lucid!offtopic | Paraselene__16:19
ubottuParaselene__: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:19
peace-lucidnoo16:19
peace-lucidsorry16:19
peace-lucid!offtopic | peace-lucid16:20
ubottupeace-lucid, please see my private message16:20
[azrael]what was the last kubuntu release that supported kde3?16:31
DragnslcrI think 8.04 was the last time that KDE3 was the default16:32
[azrael]ah yes16:32
DragnslcrCan't remember if it was officially supported in 8.1016:32
[azrael]i already checked the wikipedia but it tells me nothing about that16:34
[azrael]uh oh the english one does16:35
SegregationHello. I have a problem with skype sound flickering. My microphone is working fine. My friends can hear me swell, but i am hearing them with this anoying flickering like lag in the stream... any idea ?16:36
[azrael]use a telephone16:38
BluesKajSegregation, are you using video as well, if so then your bandwidth might be too narrow for the whole signal and your audio is buffering16:40
Segregationno16:40
Segregation it actually feels like everything is ok. They sound good. with a little break for about 0.01 sec everytime the mic on the other end sends16:40
Segregationtap tap tap tap tap in the background when they talk. really hard to pinpoint the prob16:41
TheAncientGoat1Nice job with the latest Kubuntu guys, faar better than the last few releases :)16:42
Illusioneer1instead of Koala perhaps something more fitting17:00
Illusioneer1how about Krashy? LOL17:00
rstob911very good name17:02
Illusioneer1i mean when konqueror can hose itself with a couple of google search pages, something is wrong17:02
Illusioneer1back to the drawing board :)17:02
rstob911no kidding i had to just scrap the hard drive install it is only going on vmware17:04
Illusioneer1yeah i learned NOT to use even release versions on anything but a VM17:05
QuintasanKrashy Koala? :D17:10
nolan_hi I have kubuntu 9.10 installed with kde 4.3.2 and I installed the glassified plasma theme. I didnt want it anymore so i clicked uninstall in the get new themes window, but it still remains on my themes list and I can still click and apply it.17:11
nolan_how do I remove it?17:11
shadeslayerQuintasan: lol17:12
rstob911warning hard hat area17:12
shadeslayernolan_: log out and run : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental17:12
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nolan_thank you so much shadeslyer17:12
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supunMamarok: do you use skype ?17:15
shadeslayersupun: whats the problem?17:16
supunhey  any body using Skype?17:16
shadeslayersupun: not regularly...17:17
supunshadeslayer: i got p2p connection failed when going to log17:17
shadeslayersupun: can you try to run it in a konsole?17:17
supunshadeslayer: i will try it17:18
Peace-Mamarok: i have tried lucid and kde 4.4 beta2 ... i dunno why but it's pretty stable17:18
Peace-and fast17:18
Peace-now i am on karmic17:19
Peace-but i don't want upgrade maybe it's my driver that does t work properly17:19
Peace-here17:19
Peace-o the kernel17:19
Peace-bah17:19
supunshadeslayer: i use the konsole, problem exist!! :-(17:20
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shadeslayersupun: whats the error on konsole?17:20
jwgWhen I click "Ok" in Kpackagekit to install something, it instantly closes with no further action.. how do I fix this?  Fresh install w/ updates done via cli17:21
supunshadeslayer:   no no, when enter the sudo skype , it opens the GUI of skype17:21
nolan_ok i logged out and went into runlevel1 and did the command you told me shadeslayer but it did not fix the issue17:21
shadeslayersupun: why would you use sudo?17:21
shadeslayernolan_: hmm.. strange.. maybe its a bug?17:22
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jwgIf I use sudo instead of kdsudo will it break the package system?17:22
nolan_the weird part is its not just an entry i can still click on it and enable the theme17:23
supunshadeslayer:  run as root?17:23
shadeslayersupun: no i mean,you dont need sudo17:23
supuni am trying..17:23
shadeslayernolan_: one sec theres something on KDE forums17:23
BluesKajkdesudo is for gui , launching apps fom the run command17:24
supunshadeslayer: problem exist!!!17:24
shadeslayernolan_: please dont PM17:24
shadeslayer!skype17:25
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga17:25
nolan_sorry17:25
shadeslayersupun: ^^17:25
supunubottu: shadeslayer: thanx, i will check it17:25
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:25
shadeslayernolan_: you should find the theme in : ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/17:27
shadeslayernolan_: just delete the theme folder and you should be good to go :)17:28
nolan_thank you shadeslayer :) any idea why this happened?17:28
nolan_and it worked btw :)17:29
shadeslayernolan_: nope no idea :P17:29
nolan_lol should i submit a bug report?17:29
shadeslayernolan_: maybe its a bug... maybe it just doesnt work for you... who knows :P17:29
shadeslayernolan_: sure go ahead,maybe youll find something on bugzilla :D17:29
shadeslayeremnolan_: btw ask on #kde too,if its a known probl17:31
supunshadeslayer: thanks, i found the bug17:31
shadeslayersupun: can you paste the link?17:31
supunshadeslayer: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=15962117:32
shadeslayersupun: so did it fix it?17:34
supunshadeslayer: yup, after running it as root, i logged in17:34
shadeslayersupun: -.-17:35
shadeslayersupun: you DO NOT need sudo to run skype17:35
shadeslayersupun: skype can be run as a normal user too!!!17:35
supunshadeslayer:  but i tried17:36
shadeslayerand YES bad things may happen :P17:36
shadeslayersupun: you tried what?17:36
supunshadeslayer:  run as normal user17:36
shadeslayersupun: just press alt+F2 and type : skype17:36
shadeslayersupun: after removing .skype?17:37
supunshadeslayer: the thing is my .skype folder is permission denied for me, i changed permission using chmod17:39
shadeslayersupun: thats the effect of using sudo... .skype was created by the skype run as sudo.. so it has admin permissions17:40
shadeslayersupun: remove using : sudo rm -rf .skype17:40
supunshadeslayer:  but it is in my home folder17:40
shadeslayersupun: where else would it create it? ><17:41
supunroot's folder?17:41
shadeslayerheh... nope17:41
shadeslayersupun: skype is a bit... different17:42
supunshadeslayer: oki, oki wht is the different?17:42
TheAncientGoat1Does anyone know where the  µblog plasmoid's project page is? Someone really needs to make a new logo for it :\17:42
shadeslayersupun: well as you can see it uses your home folder not the roots folder17:43
llutzsupun: sudo won't change users-environment, so it's not skypes fault creating settings-folder in users home17:43
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: try #kde17:43
TheAncientGoat1I thought it was a kubuntu project?17:43
TheAncientGoat1Hmm, I will ask over there though, thanks17:44
supunshadeslayer: so what su does?17:44
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: i thought it was a universal KDE project :P17:44
shadeslayersupun: its same as sudo... i think17:44
KoliaTheAncientGoat1: it's part of Plasma17:45
KoliaTheAncientGoat1: so you can talk of it on #kde or #plasma17:45
llutzsupun: sudo runs commands with root-rights, su changes to root account (and runs commands then)17:46
supunllutz: yup , i got it17:46
llutzsupun: and theres hardly reason to run non-administrative apps as root17:47
supunshadeslayer: do you use network management widget to connect?17:54
shadeslayer supun yes17:55
supunshadeslayer: what is your modem?17:55
shadeslayersupun: its a beetel 220Bx17:55
supunshadeslayer: my one is huawei 156G, i cant connect using the widget17:57
shadeslayersupun: hmm tried wicd or nm-applet?17:57
supunshadeslayer: should i install?17:58
shadeslayersupun: yeah sure17:58
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supunshadeslayer_:  A package dependency could not be found. i got the error18:00
supunshadeslayer:  allso my kpackage kit stucked18:01
shadeslayersupun: stuck ?18:01
supunshadeslayer:  yup, not responding18:02
shadeslayersupun: press ctrl+alt+esc and click on kpackagekit18:02
supunshadeslayer: thnxs18:03
shadeslayersupun: oh its not finished yet :P18:03
shadeslayer!aptfix | supun18:03
ubottusupun: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:03
shadeslayerrun that in a terminal :P18:03
supunshadeslayer:no nm-applet kpackagekit18:08
supunshadeslayer: no nm-applet18:08
pincopallinoxdcc18:09
shadeslayeroh they removed it from the repos.... install wicd18:09
shadeslayersupun: install wicd then :)18:09
supunshadeslayer: no nm-applet in kpackge18:09
shadeslayerbbl guys :)18:14
jwgbefore I commnet out "blacklist ath_pci in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf .. Is there another way to get an Atheros AR2413 working?  use to under 8.04 but not on a fresh install of 9.1018:18
shadeslayer /topic18:29
shadeslayeroops :P18:29
sebastianHi people18:37
sebastianI need some advice...18:37
shadeslayersebastian: shoot :)18:38
sebastianwich ppa to use for vdpau playback with smpplayer?18:38
sebastiangoogle says a lot, its hard to find the latest and greatest18:38
shadeslayerah the nvidia ppa with vdpau?18:38
shadeslayersebastian: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa18:39
njathanhow do i install handbooks in KDE? is there a 'apt-get install' way of doing it?18:40
njathansay i cannot find one for Amarok already installed18:40
shadeslayernjathan: um no... just install khelpcenter18:40
sebastianshadeslayer: awesome, thanks18:40
sebastiansebastian out!18:40
njathanshadeslayer: khandbook is already installed... handbooks for some apps are not18:41
njathanerr.. khelpcenter is already installe18:41
TheAncientGoat1Has anyone gotten that win7 like kde task manager running in kubuntu?18:41
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: yeah18:42
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: install smooth tasks and add the widget18:42
shadeslayernjathan: theres no amarok handbook i think :P18:43
TheAncientGoat1shadeslayer: Cool, where would I get it though? Package manager, or kde-looks?18:43
rstob911TheAncientGoat1: i use lancelot i like it the best18:43
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: both have them18:43
TheAncientGoat1Isn't lancelot just a launcher though?18:43
shadeslayernjathan: confirm with #amarok please18:43
njathanshadeslayer: i can see one in docs.kde.org actually18:44
shadeslayerah...18:44
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: dont forget to remove the taskbar widget though :)18:45
TheAncientGoat1shadeslayer: Oh yes, hehe18:46
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Roastedwhats up guys19:03
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noaXesshi all19:12
noaXesscan someone look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347721/19:12
noaXesshave medibuntu und vdpau repos activated..19:12
noaXessthe problem is, that i can't install mythtv-fronted.. dependencies..19:12
noaXessmythtv-frontend: Depends: libmyth-0.22-0, libmyth-0.22-0: Depends: nvidia-185-libvdpau19:13
noaXessand if i try install nvidia-185-libvdpau apt-get will remove some packages like akregator amarok apport-kde apturl-kde ark digikam dolphin,............19:13
TheAncientGoat1Hmm, whats the best way to edit grub entries in kubuntu graphically?19:23
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shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: there isnt one for grub219:27
TheAncientGoat1shadeslayer: :\19:30
noaXessany idea why installing nvidia-185-libvdpau  will remove a lot of packages? see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/347721/19:30
TheAncientGoat1Guess I'll have to dig up the config19:31
TheAncientGoat1shadeslayer: Is there an "open as root" plugin for dolphin or konq?19:31
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: i dont know :)19:31
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: kpackagekit and apt-cache search are youre friends :P19:32
TheAncientGoat1Does kate still freak out if you open it as root?19:32
shadeslayerTheAncientGoat1: nope19:32
shadeslayerjust use kdesu19:32
TheAncientGoat1kpackage kit ain't my friend19:32
TheAncientGoat1It's search is le horrible19:32
TheAncientGoat1Grr, why does grub take so long to boot anyway?19:37
TheAncientGoat1The OS boots faster for goodness sake19:37
donvito-if i want in motd to shows the uptime of pc what do i need to type19:44
donvito-what kind of command let someone help me19:44
Duskhi there...is there anybody with problem that weather applet doesn't find the city you live?19:46
Duski search my city in the applet settings but it can't find19:46
Duskanybody there?19:48
TheAncientGoat1Dusk: Hmm, looks like it doesn't find mine either19:51
TheAncientGoat1Try a different one19:52
TheAncientGoat1under install new widgets19:52
Dusklemme try19:52
Duskit's ok now19:57
user1_$ firefox20:03
user1_(firefox:1677): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times20:03
jgt157_can anyone help with a wicd problem?20:06
usuario_HI20:06
usuario_hola20:06
jgt157_hello20:06
usuario_how are you20:07
usuario_?20:07
user1_$ firefox20:08
user1_(firefox:1677): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times20:08
usuario_i don't speak english20:09
usuario_only the basics20:09
jgt157_user1, try deleting your .mozilla folder in your home directory and rerun firefox20:10
usuario_what?20:10
usuario_no entiendo nada20:11
usuario_help20:11
jgt157_what kind of help do you need20:12
user1_jgt157_:  right after installation. new kubuntu instal20:12
user1_iam trying to del20:12
usuario_who is it?20:13
jgt157_user1, rm -rf .mozilla is the command to use20:16
usuario_bye I'm leaving this program, that is not here, I do not understand20:16
apparlemaco: you there?20:16
macoapparle: yeah..20:17
macocrimsun: yo!20:17
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macocrimsun: can you help apparle with alsa hackery?20:17
crimsunin a few minutes20:18
apparleActually I compiled ALSA yesterday and added a line to it to automatically detect my card....20:18
apparleBut only thing is I don't know what to do so that it will be added to ubuntu bugs20:19
crimsunwhich line did you add?20:19
macocrimsun: a quirk20:20
apparleI don't remember exactly but it was something like 'SND_PCI_QUIRK(<mysubvendorid>,<mysubdeviceid>,"Foxconn RC4107MA",0),' to atiixp.c20:21
apparlecrimsun: ^^20:21
TheAncientGoat1So, has anyone checked out the nepomuk-tasks stuff the mandriva guys have been working on?20:22
crimsunapparle: I need the precise line that you added.20:22
macoapparle: generate a patch and pastebin it?20:22
apparlecrimsun: I'll just tell the line20:22
apparlemaco: that's the problem, I don't know how to make patches20:23
apparlemaco: crimsun: I'll reboot and be online in 5 min20:23
Duskhas anyone got problem with kopete-facebook plugin??20:23
Duskhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/347761/20:24
Duskthat's my problem about the facebook plugin of kopete20:24
scuniziIs one.ubuntu.com integrated into 9.10?20:25
apparlecrimsun: I added "SND_PCI_QUIRK(0x105b, 0x0c81, "Foxconn RC4107MA", 0)," to line 301 of /alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp.c in the source downloaded by the command 'apt-get soruce alsa-base'20:28
Duskhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/347761/20:29
Duskcan anyone look into this?20:29
apparlecrimsun: here is the bug report I filed for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/498863/ Now how to submit the patch20:29
apparlemaco: how to generate patches20:32
apparlecrimsun: u there?20:38
crimsunapparle: not enough info. Please use apport-collect -p alsa-base 49886320:38
apparlecrimsun: I have a university connection with all ports except 443 and 80 blocked and them also through a proxy server..... so I can't use apport-collect20:39
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apparlecrimsun: what info do you need I can provide it to you20:39
jgt157_can anyone help with a wicd problem?20:41
crimsunapparle: apport-cli ?20:41
apparlecrimsun: I have already uplodaded the report generated by  apport-cli on the bug page20:43
crimsunweird, I don't see any attachments or comments20:45
apparlecrimsun: here is the link I took from the same page http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36999580/apport.alsa-base.cSFOHh.apport20:46
apparle!pasebin20:48
apparle!pastebin20:48
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic20:48
apparlecrimsun: Can't you see this http://imagebin.org/77099 on the bug page?20:49
apparleWhen I Suspend to RAM and then resume... the system starts but monitor remains off what to do?20:54
apparlewhat is the meaning of this line in fstab20:56
apparleproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       020:56
mofaapparle: make sure your video driver is at the latest version20:56
apparlemofa: it is latest20:57
mofaapparle: and that mounts the proc filesystem, located in /proc, which provides all kinds of various information about your computer20:57
crimsunapparle: pushed, thanks.20:57
apparlecrimsun: how did you do it... I want to learn the procedure20:59
apparlemofa: it comes before the main partition mounting so how does it happen?20:59
crimsunapparle: are you familiar with git?21:00
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mofaapparle: the order doesn't matter21:00
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apparlecrimsun: nope...21:00
apparlemofa: what happens if I remove it from fstab21:01
mofaapparle: i wouldn't do it, a lot of programs use /proc21:01
skierpageI'm running Kubuntu 9.10 and suddenly after a reboot alsa and PulseAudio apps make no sound.  Phonon stuff (Amarok, system sounds) still work but no Flash sound.  Where's a guide to debugging these?  Should I join another IRC channel?21:02
voodoochileI'm trying to add a shortcut to a bashshell to the panel but all i seem to be able to add is a submenu that points to the shell that I want to open.. is there some other way to do this that I havent discovered yet?21:02
crimsunapparle: will you be around for an hour?21:02
apparlemofa: crimsun ya21:03
crimsunapparle: I'll give an Ubuntu classroom session on the process in about an hour21:03
apparlemofa: errors=remount-ro means what?21:03
apparlemofa: earlier on was not for you21:03
apparlecrimsun: then i'd do it tomorrow if its fine with you21:03
apparlecrimsun: :D Coz I got to sleep... it 2:30am here21:04
mofaapparle: if there is some kind of error while the filesystem is mounted, then remount it as read-only to prevent anything other errors21:04
crimsunapparle: sorry, can only do it in an hour, but the sessions are logged21:04
apparlecrimsun: plzzzzzzzzzzz its 2:30am here I need to sleep.. if not tomorrow you tell me whatever time you feel good later21:07
crimsunapparle: sorry, but I'm on assignment, so my time is severely limited21:07
crimsunapparle: please just read the logs, then catch me via e-mail if you have questions21:07
apparlecrimsun: ok.... tell me the irc channel name and pm me your mail... I'll read the logs21:08
crimsunapparle: ~crimsun on LP; see contact info there.21:08
crimsunapparle: ubuntu-classroom is the irc channel21:09
crimsunapparle: logs are available at irclogs.ubuntu.com21:09
apparlecrimsun: Ok... and thanks for all your help regarding the bug21:09
crimsunapparle: yw21:09
apparlecrimsun: how long does a session last?21:09
crimsunapparle: as long as it needs to21:10
crimsunapparle: I can cover this material in ten seconds if necessary21:10
apparlecrimsun: :D Where can I find more info on ubuntu-classroom and how they operate21:10
crimsunapparle: via wiki.ubuntu.com21:11
apparlecrimsun: and what should I do with the bug report.. submission of the fix and marking it as fixed etc.21:12
crimsunapparle: I've taken care of it21:12
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Roastedmy faithful kubuntu work laptop no longer boots to the login screen. It shows kubuntu with the loading bar... and never goes to the login screen. No changes were made. No updates were applied. What the...?21:26
||arifaXRoasted: hard disk failure?21:26
RoastedXP still works (dual boot)21:26
||arifaXRoasted: that says nothing. could be that the part of the disk is broken where kubuntu lives21:27
Roasted*shrug* assuming its not the disk, then what?21:27
Roastedits a brand new laptop :(21:27
Roastedwell, sorta21:28
Roasted6 months old now I guess21:28
FloodBotK3Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:28
RoastedI was actually in kubuntu too about 10 minutes ago21:28
Roastedand rebooted it21:28
||arifaXRoasted: try to give some boot options to show what it does during boot21:28
Roastedmeaning what?21:29
Roastedthe other kernel does the same thing in the boot menu21:31
Roastedso much for bringing this laptop home to get caught up on work :/21:31
apparleRoasted: boot with the splash disabled to recognize the boot problem21:31
Roastedapparle - how21:31
trevormy hardware drivers jockey keeps crashing on me, how else can i install my ATI drivers ?21:31
||arifaXRoasted: you can also press ctrl+alt+f1 during boot to see some messages. but the nosplash would be nice. - try that first to find out more21:32
dontknowdoes anyone read me?21:32
||arifaXdontknow: copy that21:32
dontknowok! thank you!21:33
apparleRoasted: when you see the grub edit the command to boot normally21:33
||arifaXdontknow: that remembers me my old CB-Radio times :) CQ CQ CQDx this is.... calling for dx and standing by :)21:33
dontknowhahaha21:34
apparleRoasted: and remove the quiet and splash in the end of one command and then boot21:34
dontknowyes is true, I used to speak like that too21:34
mofasometimes when i boot kubuntu, I'll get an error saying "General error mounting filesystems" and im dropped to a root shell. It also says to press Ctrl+D when im done21:36
trevoranyone??21:36
mofai can immediately press Ctrl+D and it continues to boot just fine21:36
mofawhat confuses me most though is that this doesn't always happen on every boot21:37
apparletrevor: which card?21:37
trevorati radeon 310021:37
trevorit works with jockey in gnome, i dont know why jockey isnt working on kde21:37
Roastedapparle - what would have caused this? do you know?21:37
apparleRoasted: that's what we are trying to detect21:38
BluesKajtevor, drop to a tty ,alt+f2, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, install the driver ,then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start21:38
apparletrevor: is it HD3100?21:38
trevorit is apparle21:38
trevorand i will try that BluesKaj21:39
apparletrevor: follow BluesKaj :) correct21:39
BluesKajtrevor, alt+f7 to get back to the desktop21:39
apparleBluesKaj: but I don't think he knows how to install the driver in shell21:39
trevori dont apparle21:39
apparleBluesKaj: ^^21:40
trevoris there some instructiosn ic an follow or print out?21:40
trevori could just try to install envy couldnt i?21:40
BluesKajsudo apt-get install nameofgraphicsdriver21:40
Roastedapparle - the only thing I changed when my system was working is I fired up that K and R tray thing and changed my resolution, then rebooted. Would that case anything?21:40
BluesKaj!envy | trevor21:41
ubottutrevor: EnvyNG is a program to install newer version of nVidia or ATi drivers, it can be found in !Universe as "envyng-gtk" (for Gtk/Gnome) or "envyng-qt" (for Qt/KDE). It is NOT a supported method to install video drivers; please only use it if standard methods fail and at your own risk - See also !BinaryDriver21:41
trevorBluesKaj: , why is it not reccomended, do you knpow?21:41
BluesKajtrevor, it can break your setup badly21:42
trevoroh lame21:42
BluesKajtrevor, what driver do you need ?21:43
apparletrevor: install the package 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' and then see if jockey works21:43
trevor!BinaryDriver21:43
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:43
r00t_ninjatrevor: have you refreshed your package list21:43
RoastedI get no options during booting when I hit CTRL ALT F121:43
Roasted:(21:43
r00t_ninjathen used jockey21:43
trevori have refreshed21:43
r00t_ninjaalso you sometimes have to reboot if youve already run jockey21:43
r00t_ninjaits a wierd bug21:43
apparletrevor: ahhh yes.... you have to refresh them 'sudo apt-get update' is the command21:44
apparleRoasted: did you try my method21:44
r00t_ninjamake sure the driver is actually selected when you click activate21:44
trevorapparle: i did refresh21:44
r00t_ninjaby double clicking the one you wnat21:44
trevorlol yes it is selected21:44
apparletrevor: I suggest you install the package I mentioned and then try21:44
r00t_ninjayou actually have to click it it appears to be selected by default21:44
Roastedapparle - you said CTRL ALT F1 to see messages. I didnt see any. And I have no idea how to edit it for no splash. It hought that would be it there.21:44
trevori will21:44
Roastedhow is it possible that I change the screen resolution and reboot and now my system wont function? :(21:45
apparleRoasted: I didn't suggest that... I suggested trying to edit the command21:45
Roastedapparle - again, I dont know how to edit that.21:45
trevorok apparle that seems to be working, thank you!21:45
senyaвсем привет, есть кто из России?21:46
maco!ru | senya21:46
ubottusenya: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke21:46
apparleRoasted: how have you installed kubuntu..... inside windows or complete install?21:46
Roastedcomplete21:46
r00t_ninjaRoasted: what happens to cause it to not function?21:47
dkkongI'm having a problem with Karmic's PPC Image. I've burned 4 cds, all of which were good according to the MD5 sum, and everytime I install it, it reboots, but when I enter my username and password, I get authentication failed error. Help!21:47
Roastedr00t_ninja - I dont know. I just changed my resolution in the K and R display thing, and rebooted.21:47
RoastedNow when it boots up the login screen never comes up.21:47
r00t_ninjaRoasted: it could be something else because im fairly sure the randr settings are user specific21:49
apparleRoasted: ok.... when you see grub read the instructions to edit command given and the bottom and follow themm... remove the 'splash quiet' at the end of one command and then boot21:49
Roastedwhat instructions?21:50
r00t_ninjaRoasted: are u able to drop to a shell?21:50
Roastedr00t_ninja - no21:50
RoastedI see the kubuntu loading screen21:50
Roastedthen it fades out, and I have nothing21:50
r00t_ninjawhat happens when u press ctrl + alt + 121:50
r00t_ninjawhat happens when u press ctrl + alt + f221:50
RoastedI tried ctrl alt f1, nothing happened21:51
Roastedthis is DURING boot right?21:51
r00t_ninjaim guessing its a xorg problem21:51
Roastedno idea man21:51
Roastedchanging resolution shouldnt do this to a system21:51
Roastedever21:51
r00t_ninjai dont think that is it though21:51
Roastedthats all that changed though man21:52
r00t_ninjathat resolution change only applies to that user21:52
RoastedI was on the system, changed resolution in RR tray, rebooted, thats it. period. done. That was all that happened :(21:52
r00t_ninjado you have auto login?21:52
apparleRoasted: wait what's is the problemmmm does the splash disappear? and you have blank screen? or you have the splash screen continuously21:52
apparler00t_ninja: Roasted what is RR tray?21:53
RoastedKR and R tray21:53
Roastedapparle - I see the Kubuntu logo with the bar beneath it going back and forth loading.21:53
Roastedapparle - after a while, it just disappears as if Ill see the login screen21:53
Roastedbut the login screen never comes up21:53
Roastedmaybe I should boot to a livecd and nuke the xorg?21:54
apparle_Roasted: what is RR tray?21:54
r00t_ninjacan you boot the recovery mode?21:54
apparle_Roasted: and what is your Gfx card?21:54
Roastedapparle - intel21:55
Roastedr00t_ninja - from the boot menu that is?21:55
r00t_ninjayes21:55
Roastedlet me try21:55
r00t_ninjaone you have booted that run the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:56
Roastedbooting in recovery mode now21:56
r00t_ninjaok21:56
apparle_r00t_ninja: rather 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'21:56
Roastednow Im at a prompt21:57
Roastedinitramfs21:57
rohdefhow can I connect to my mobile broadband using kubuntu? I can see that it detects it and all that, but when I click the connection I manually (ehm.. what about using Ubuntu's approach to this?) set up, nothing happens22:03
r00t_ninjaright click on the networkmanager systray icon , manage connections , mobile broadband , no clue from there22:04
rohdefnot at all, all settings is the same as they are in Ubuntu22:05
Roastedso Im at the initramfs thing22:06
Roastedwhat do Id o?22:06
rohdefr00t_ninja, btw. I'm on win atm. due to the problems, so I can only go by memory though22:07
Roastedso, do I have to reinstall, or what?22:10
Roasted:(22:17
BluesKajRoasted,ctrl+alt+f2 get to a tty22:20
apparleRoasted: what happened I was not there connection problem22:20
Roastedapparle - nothing happened. Im about to slap fedora on this thing now22:21
apparleI mean did you try recovery mode?22:21
Roastednothing happened when I do CTRL ALT F1 and F222:21
BluesKajRoasted, looks like you need to reboot22:22
Roastedto reboot?22:22
Roastedor reinstall?22:22
Omar87How do I make my bug reports more useful?22:22
Roastedapparle - I did but I got to initramfs and that was it. no idea what else I had to do22:22
apparlehowcome you ended in intrafms that before even kubuntu loading22:23
r00t_ninjahe booted recovery mode22:23
BluesKajinitramfs is something not to be trying unless you really know what you're doing22:23
Roastedthat was when I hit recovery mode22:24
RoastedCTRL ALT F1 and F2 do nothing when Im booting22:24
RoastedIm heading out now, Ill try this again later. If it doesnt work Im gonna take this opportunity to try fedora :P22:24
Roastedanyway I appreciate the help guys22:24
apparleBluesKaj: yes but that comes up only when there is something with loading kernel ? iesn't it22:24
BluesKajapparle, dunno enough about it22:26
apparleRoasted: wait goto recovery mode22:26
apparleRoasted: when you are in it22:26
apparlejust type quit22:27
apparle'quit'22:27
apparleOn my computer intrafms sometimes just pops up when it can't load from hdd22:27
apparleI just quit and then loading continues22:28
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admin0ыыы22:30
jwgI'm booting and the desktop isn't loading.. how do I get it to load.. I get past the boot screen and kwallet password reqeust then the default backdrop and no.. plasma?  How do I fix this?22:34
apparlejwg: I didn't understand plz elaborate22:36
jwgapparle: on boot I get the normal boot screen and the icon set showing the load process.  when the full desktop is suppose to appear all I get is the spash screen.. blue with the bubbles/lines. the defaut.. no menu bars or plazmoids22:37
jwgapparle: I'm on TTY2 with irssi right now22:38
apparlejwg: how did htis happen22:38
jwgapparle: no idea.. just did the install, all updates, configurations.. nothing unusual.. unplugged and moved it 30 miles and viola! no desktop appearing22:38
apparlejwg: can you right click on the desktop?22:39
jwgapparle: I'll check hang on.22:40
jwgapparle: must have just taken some time to bring it up.. it's now there in entirety on ctrl+alt+F7.. weird that it took so long.22:40
apparlejwg: also check if you run dialog appears when you press Alt+F222:41
jwgapparle: could be the ATI card and drivers.. it's a Radeon 9600.. no hardware drivers appeared so it's stock default for what kubuntu wants to use..22:42
jwgapparle: when the desktop wasn't appearing alt+f2 did bring up the run dialogue22:42
apparlejwg: mine gives no problem with open source driver Radeon Xpress 200... recently filed a bug and got it working22:42
jwgapparle: how do I check to see what driver is actually being used?22:43
jwgI think this driver is also called a ??35022:44
apparlejwg: I mean I have Radeon xpress 200 which works just fine with default stock driver (Opensource)22:44
BluesKajapparle,, good to know in case my nvidia card dies22:45
jwgunderstand.. how do I check to see what drivers are loaded for mine?22:45
jwgBluesKaj: nvidia is much easier in my opinion.. :)22:45
BluesKajjwg, it is but my onboard is an ati 200m22:46
apparlejwg: I agree nvidia is better........... anyways you could check with 'lspci -v'22:47
jwgk22:47
BluesKajmy ati is disabled in the bios , since installing the nvidia pci22:48
jwglooks like the radeon driver is loaded.. but it's hard to tell with that info.22:48
apparlejwg: can you right click?22:49
jwgon the screen?22:49
jwgyep.. apparle right click works on the screen.22:50
r00t_ninjajwg: add panel?22:50
jake___apparle: now on the desktop with a different nick22:50
jake___normal panels are showing up.. would you like me to add another?22:51
r00t_ninjaoh o dw22:51
apparlejake___: are the normal panels ther?22:53
jake___apparle: yep :)22:53
apparlejake___: so everything is normal ?22:53
jake___yep.. thanks for the help..22:53
apparlejake___: but how did I help22:54
apparlejake___: everything seems to have fixed itself22:54
jake___apparle: seems to have fixed itself with time.. just took a while to show the entire desktop.. that's why I was asking about the ati drivers.. if they are slow then teh desktop usually takes a while.. I discovered that with bad nvidia drivers..22:56
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apparleMy drivers also load slowly but after they are loaded everything works fine22:57
jake___apparle: I'm setting this up for my son.  I just logged him into his aim account with Kopete.  How do I get his contacts to show? do you know?22:58
apparlejake___: I use gmail... and there contact get loaded automatically23:00
jake___apparle: got it.. kopete just isn't configured out of the box to show the contacts.23:02
apparlejake___: good for u23:02
jake___apparle: I'm a 5 year gnome guy.. so kde is a little foreign to me.. :)  I like it though.23:03
r00t_ninja_jake__: what protocol?23:04
apparlejake___: I suggest you install the package kubuntu-restricted-extras23:04
r00t_ninja_also i dont think offline contacts are set to show by defualt23:04
jake___apparle: did that already and installed flash for youtube.. got screen irssi and a few other installed as well23:06
r00t_ninja_jake___: what protocol?23:06
ToxinPowe_jake___: restricted-extrad have flash, you installed twice =)23:07
apparlejake___: install kdeplasma-addons kscreensavers kdegames23:07
jake___apparle: ok..23:08
jake___ToxinPowe_: I realiezed that aftwards and fixed it..23:08
jake___r00t_ninja_: AIM.23:08
ToxinPowe_jake___: hehe, I'm a gnome old guy too =)23:09
apparleToxinPowe_: ;) I am a KDE since I started linux23:10
jake___apparle: is it kdescreensavers?  kscrensavers didn't computer using apt-get23:10
jake___*compute23:10
apparlejake___: kscreensaver23:11
ToxinPowe_apparle: linux user since 97 xD23:11
apparlejake___: the plural is not there :)23:11
apparleToxinPowe_: I am only 2 year old linux user23:11
ToxinPowe_;)23:13
jake___Is "apturl" installed by default?  for installing stuff from www.playdeb.net?23:15
r00t_ninja__jake___: yes but it doesnt appear to work with firefox-kubuntu23:18
jake___r00t_ninja_: too bad.. guess I'll load their .deb that add their repos..23:19
ToxinPowe_apparle: I didn't know "kdeplasma-addons", thanks23:19
apparleToxinPowe_: I also found out recently which trying to fix twitter plasmoid23:20
ToxinPowe_is posible clear the screen (Control+L) on quassel?23:20
jake___How do I clear the trash.. I don't see a can on the screen23:20
apparlejake___: kmenu Computer trash23:21
apparlehow to assign application to various file types in firefox23:22
jake___apparle: is there an "empty trash" button or do I just highlight and delete?23:23
jake___apparle: nevermind.. right mouse click the can on left and say empty23:23
jwgapparle: sorry.. closed quassel and tought it would plant itself in the task bar.. at any rate.. thanks.. you've been a big help.. gotta run.. food call!23:25
apparlejwg ok bye23:26
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cjaehow do I seatch with quassel  for keywords  of  channels and such23:44
soeeanyone who tried nvidia 195.30 beta drivers?23:44
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BluesKajcjae, /list in the server text box23:46
BluesKajsoee, which card?23:46
soee8800 gt23:46
BluesKajI run the 190 driver and it 's fine with my 7600gt...dunno about the 195 tho23:48
ToxinPowe_8600GT 195.30 Lucid Lynx, works for me23:49
soeeok.nice thnx23:50
soeeToxinPowe_: hows the Lucid working now in alpha stage ?23:50
ToxinPowe_unstable, kopete and kmess dont work, gdm broken23:51
ToxinPowe_ubuntu+kubuntu installed23:51
ToxinPowe_sry for my poor English =)23:53
soeenp :) thnx for info23:53
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