[00:00] <r00t_ninja> thats where it normally is , its not loading for me either
[00:00] <sapablo> but when I restart my computer I can't see the printer
[00:00] <sapablo> I nedd to make another samba restart
[00:00] <simo___> hello
[00:01] <sapablo> do you understand to me?
[00:01] <simo___> i wanna install a windows7 in my cumpeter
[00:01] <simo___> without loose my lilo
[00:01] <simo___> it's posible ?
[00:04] <r00t_ninja> sapablo: if you put that in your rc.local it will run that command automatically on boot
[00:04] <r00t_ninja> as a quick work around
[00:05] <r00t_ninja> simo___: i think the windows 7 bootloader will be installed over your existing one
[00:05] <r00t_ninja> sapablo: edit /etc/rc.local
[00:05] <sapablo> but in the console I need to do samba with sudo
[00:06] <simo___> i don't know
[00:06] <sapablo> Do it will works in rc.local without sudo?
[00:06] <r00t_ninja> sapablo: it will be run with root priveleges
[00:06] <sapablo> aa ok
[00:06] <simo___> the proble is i have it in a image iso
[00:06] <sapablo> I'm gonna try
[00:06] <r00t_ninja> simo___: you have to burn that image to a disc
[00:06] <simo___> then
[00:06] <simo___> install it i a partition
[00:07] <simo___> i will lose a lilo no ?
[00:07] <r00t_ninja> simo___: yes
[00:08] <simo___> so i will lose of my Kubuntu data?
[00:08] <simo___> the unic way is install kubuntu agail ? o there is a solucion
[00:08] <r00t_ninja> simo___: im not sure you might want to try a windows irc
[00:09] <r00t_ninja> channel
[00:09] <r00t_ninja> i think if you create the partition before hand you can install it there
[00:09] <sapablo> I did it, I'm going to restart my machine, thanks
[00:09] <r00t_ninja> and then all you need to do is reinstall your boot loader
[00:10] <simo___> i have a patrition, totaly impty
[00:10] <simo___> empty
[00:15] <gkffjcs_> Hey all, how exactly do I go about setting up dual monitors? I have my laptop, echoing out to both monitors, with the same desktop, which I don't want, I would like to have an extended desktop spanning the two monitors, if I go to "Multiple Monitors" options, I simply see a message that says it does not appear that you have two monitors
[00:16] <r00t_ninja> gkffjcs_: what is the make/model of your graphics chip
[00:18] <r00t_ninja> if you are not sure open up konsole and type: lspci | grep VGA
[00:18] <gkffjcs_> intel 82852/855GM according
[00:18] <gkffjcs_> I can't copy and past the output since I'm running konversation on a different computer.
[00:18] <r00t_ninja> ok
[00:20] <r00t_ninja> ive only done this with a nvidia card so im not sure if i had another monitor i would try
[00:21] <gkffjcs_> right now, I have the same single desktop copied accross both monitors, also, kde does recognize the second monitor as existing, I just can't figure out how to make extended desktop work.
[00:22] <gkffjcs_> I don't know if this is right, but I don't think it's a driver problem as much as it is a configuration problem.
[00:24] <soee> hey guys whats wrong with this line: cmake --release -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde**4**-config --prefix` ../
[00:26] <r00t_ninja> gkffjcs_: could you take screenshots of the Display settings in system settings
[00:27] <gkffjcs_> sure.. give me a minute
[00:28] <r00t_ninja> sorry im just not sure what it looks like with two monitors plugged in
[00:30] <gkffjcs_> what site should I upload it to? Pastebin doesn't seem to have that functionality.
[00:30] <r00t_ninja> tinypic maybe
[00:30] <r00t_ninja> also try krandrtray
[00:33] <gkffjcs_> http://i47.tinypic.com/bwltc.png
[00:34] <r00t_ninja> does identify outputs do anything
[00:34] <gkffjcs_> It shows both outputs on both displays.. so basically nothing worthwhile
[00:35] <r00t_ninja> after you click identify has anything changed in multiple monitors
[00:36] <gkffjcs_> Nope
[00:38] <r00t_ninja> gkffjcs_: have you opened up krandrtray?
[00:38] <Walzmyn> knetworkmanager dosen't load on startup, how can I fix this?
[00:42] <gkffjcs_> yup, and it pretty much does the exact same thing.
[00:43] <r00t_ninja> can you right click on the tray icon and see the options
[00:43] <r00t_ninja> are there any special options lol?
[00:44] <gkffjcs_> nope, their exactly the same as in system settings, and the have equally non existent effect
[00:45] <r00t_ninja> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107874.0
[00:47] <r00t_ninja> the fix will only be available in 10.04 :(
[00:47] <r00t_ninja> however that post offers a workaround
[00:59] <gkffjcs_> That forum post did exactly nothing.
[01:48] <Walzmyn> knetworkmanager dosen't load on startup, how can I fix this?
[01:50] <DarkriftX> does anyone here know about software/hardware mouse rendering? how to enable/disable
[01:50] <DarkriftX> or what term i would google?
[01:53] <r00t_ninja> DarkriftX: try disabling desktop effects
[01:53] <DarkriftX> it is disabled on kwin and ive tried kwin and compiz
[01:53] <DarkriftX> both are doing the same thing
[02:00] <apparle> maco: you there?
[02:11] <Theory> IS there any way to change the behaviour of toolbars so they wrap onto multiple lines, instead of showing the button on the right hand side to grow them?
[02:15] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:21] <nate_> anybody want to help me get audio from firefox?
[02:22] <soee> what do u mean by get audio from firefox ?
[02:24] <nate_> i think there is a problem with flash, i get video but no audio from youtube and pandora.  it is the same with konquorer
[02:24] <rstob911> go to kmix and make sure the pcm is all the way up
[02:25] <nate_> duh, thanks.  i wonder why it was down.
[02:25] <rstob911> dont know
[02:26] <rstob911> it is by default
[02:27] <nate_> so it may be from rebooting to switch to windows and back.
[02:27] <rstob911> dont know but now you know how to fix it lol
[02:28] <nate_> right, lol
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> I've had that problem too, with the master channel getting muted on boot
[02:29] <rstob911> yea alot of little ticks with this one
[02:29] <nate_> do you know if it is normal for a pci video card to not work @ bios or post or whatever?
[02:30] <nate_> or anytime thereafter
[02:30] <nate_> im not sure if its a driver thing or it busted.
[02:31] <rstob911> if you have two cards one integrated and one pci they sometimes fight each other
[02:32] <nate_> i changed bios to default to pci if there is both and got nothing.  also disabled onboard vga still nothing.
[02:33] <rstob911> hmm not sure then
[02:36] <apparle> nate_: check the connections maybe its loose or something like that
[02:39] <nate_> i reseated it numerous times but nothing.
[02:44] <bbteoman> hi
[02:44] <bbteoman> i need some help
[02:45] <Walzmyn> bbteoman: just ask your question
[02:57] <menguhansson> does any one have any insight to how to get ssh-add to run "automagically" whenever i try to ssh to something so that i dont have to enter my passphrase for my key all the time?
[02:59] <menguhansson> i have my pub-key installed on the remote host and the auth works, I just dont want to have to enter the passphrase every time, its enought if i enter it once during the session. I can do it by manually running ssh-add as long as ssh-agent is running, but how do i avoid doing it manually, starting ssh-add that is....
[03:02] <INIT_6> I think I am missing a step. Isn't their a way to setup NFS shares using the GUI. If I right click on a file and go to properties -> share -> configure file sharing.. some times it ask for the root password but doesn't do anything after that. Also went to system settings share but that screen looks different now just has windows shares. I have NFS-kernel-server, NFS-common, portmap installed.   Or should I quit being a wuss and 
[03:10] <bbteoman> how can i install kde netbook on my kubuntu?
[03:11] <bbteoman> i tried kpackage kit but it did nothing.
[03:11] <bbteoman> any idea
[03:12] <bbteoman> btw i just wanna try kde netbook as my second desktop environment
[03:12] <bbteoman> is it possible?
[03:16] <Omar87_> How do I make my bug reports more useful?
[03:35] <seme> hey guys... can anyone help me out... I've been using ubuntu for a while and I've had a hard time using kde... it just didn't feel polished in previous releases but in this release things are much better
[03:36] <seme> I'm having a problem getting the fonts just right though
[03:36] <seme> and getting my standard gnome apps to fit in
[03:36] <seme> anyone have any recommendations for getting the fonts to look good?
[04:06] <DarkriftX> god damnit
[04:06] <DarkriftX> this mouse crap is making my system unusable
[05:22] <sravan> Is there an itunes for Linux ?? gtkpod is just inserting songs but damaging IPOD's database
[05:34] <draik> !printer
[05:39] <draik> Did something change in 9.10 for adding a printer?
[05:40] <ewyeqwe> Hullo
[05:44] <Ben^> I'm wanting to script control of an old app that runs in text mode. To do this I need to be able to query the screen (via stdout I guess) to make decisions on what to do next via the script. What would be a good way to do this? I'm looking at cURL right now as it has basic telnet support, so I'm thinking of making a telnet session to localhost and then starting the app. Seems overly complicated though.
[05:44] <Ben^> Oh, and Hey :)
[05:50] <Ben^> D:
[06:26] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Is Koffice 2.1 available for Kubuntu in any of the PPAs?
[06:32] <Soslas> hi
[06:32] <Soslas> how do i enable the ssh daemon in kubuntu
[06:36] <r00t_ninja> Soslas: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:36] <Soslas> oh'
[06:42] <Soslas> r00t_ninja after that how do i enable the ssh daemon
[06:43] <rbh> I am new to Kubuntu.  My laptop has three HDD's previously configured as LVM encrypted under Fedora.  Now under Kubuntu, it only recognizes the primary drive (/dev/sda).  I have installed gparted and it sees the other drives.  How would I get the other two drives mounted and then extended into the LVM?  I used the alternative CD installation so that I would have LVM enabled.
[06:43] <r00t_ninja> Soslas: reboot or /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:46] <Soslas> r00t_ninja : ok, is openssh client
[06:46] <Soslas> needed too?
[06:46] <r00t_ninja> that comes by default
[06:46] <r00t_ninja> ssh 127.0.0.1 to test if openssh-server is running
[06:48] <Soslas> says
[06:48] <Soslas> the connection could not be establised\
[06:48] <r00t_ninja> did you start ssh?
[06:48] <Soslas> yes
[06:48] <Soslas> as sudo
[06:48] <Soslas> (without sudo i had some errors, some rss keys couldnt be loaded)
[06:50] <Soslas> is this good
[06:51] <Soslas> r00t_ninja
[06:51] <r00t_ninja> yes
[06:51] <Soslas> i started it with sudo
[06:51] <Soslas> cause without it some erros occured
[06:51] <r00t_ninja> your meant to
[06:52] <Soslas> ok
[06:52] <r00t_ninja> you should be able to establish a connection with:
[06:52] <Soslas> i will try using my shh app now
[06:52] <Soslas> i use an automated app
[06:52] <r00t_ninja> ssh 127.0.0.1
[06:52] <r00t_ninja> ok
[06:52] <Soslas> shouldnt? i type
[06:52] <Soslas> ssh Hostname?
[06:53] <Soslas> shh 192.168.1.4 is the static ip i have assigned to my other pc
[06:53] <r00t_ninja> oh ok
[06:53] <r00t_ninja> i thought you were doing it on the same computer
[06:53] <Soslas> oh no
[06:53] <Soslas> anyway thanks
[06:58] <Roasted> whats up everybody
[06:59] <Soslas> r00t_ninja:
[06:59] <Soslas> how do i get the root account for kubuntu?
[06:59] <Roasted> you dont
[06:59] <Roasted> sudo = root access
[06:59] <Soslas> i need it
[06:59] <Roasted> just use sudo for whatever root level commands you need
[06:59] <Soslas> i need to be able to have a root user
[06:59] <Roasted> ..why would you need the root account
[07:00] <Soslas> Roasted: i use it on a livecd
[07:00] <Soslas> dont worry
[07:00] <Roasted> Im pretty sure the livecd user is a root level user anyway
[07:00] <Soslas> and i try to connecti via ssh
[07:00] <r00t_ninja> use sudo -s
[07:00] <r00t_ninja> ssh client doesnt require root
[07:01] <Soslas> r00t_ninja: but there are some files i have no access to as the normal user
[07:01] <Soslas> (in my internal hdd)
[07:01] <Soslas> so i guess if i remote ssh to it
[07:01] <Soslas> with the normal user i wont be able to copy them
[07:02] <Roasted> if you can see the files, you should be able to copy them
[07:02] <r00t_ninja> when you connect to it via ssh you can choose what user to log into
[07:02] <r00t_ninja> ssh -l username
[07:02] <r00t_ninja> ssh address -l username
[07:02] <r00t_ninja> ^
[07:02] <Soslas> i told u i use an automated app
[07:02] <Soslas> it only takes a hostname
[07:02] <Soslas> a username
[07:02] <Soslas> and a pass
[07:02] <r00t_ninja> oh i see now
[07:03] <r00t_ninja> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:03] <r00t_ninja> you can find how to unlock the root account there
[07:04] <Soslas> do i need to run
[07:04] <Soslas> apt-get install root-system-bin?
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> no
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> i think its
[07:05] <r00t_ninja> sudo passwd root
[07:05] <cjae> !reader
[07:06] <cjae> ! info reader
[07:06] <cjae> um
[07:06] <Soslas> sudo passwd root
[07:06] <Soslas> is this enough
[07:06] <Soslas> ok
[07:08] <Soslas> worked
[07:11] <naftilos76> hi everyone, how can i append my signature at the end of each newly written message?
[07:11] <naftilos76> is there an automated way?
[07:11] <naftilos76> to save several signatures with images and stuff and have them handy for every message that you write?
[07:11] <naftilos76> anyone? I'm using the latest kubuntu 9.10!
[07:11] <FloodBotK1> naftilos76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <naftilos76> ok sorry
[07:11] <naftilos76> I'm refering to kmail!
[07:13] <r00t_ninja> naftilos76: try settings -> configure kmail
[07:14] <r00t_ninja> choose the identity and click modify
[07:14] <naftilos76> i did that - it's just that i can't find a setting that lets me do that!
[07:14] <r00t_ninja> then go to the signatures tab
[07:16] <naftilos76> i can't seem to find that. I am in the "Composing" section but the tabs do not refer to 'signatures'
[07:17] <r00t_ninja> go to the identities section
[07:18] <r00t_ninja> do you see a list of identities?
[07:18] <naftilos76> ok - i found it!
[07:18] <naftilos76> thnks
[07:18] <r00t_ninja> np
[07:25] <r00t_ninja> could someone tell me the default kubuntu font settings
[07:25] <r00t_ninja> or someone with clear fonts what theres are
[07:53] <Mamarok> r00t_ninja: try Liberation Sans
[07:54] <Mamarok> and don't put the contrast too high, on dark backgrounds light grey is better than white
[07:55] <r00t_ninja> what size would you reccomend
[07:55] <Mamarok> depends on your screen resolution
[07:55] <lisenok> всем привет
[07:56] <Mamarok> !ru | lisenok
[07:56] <r00t_ninja> also anti-aliazing settings , how can i find the best for my screen?
[07:57] <Mamarok> r00t_ninja: well, I can point you to a blog about the best settings, just a moment
[07:57] <r00t_ninja> ok thanks
[08:01] <Mamarok> r00t_ninja: see here: http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2009/05/kpgp-icon-and-fonts.html
[08:01] <Mamarok> Nuno Pinheiro is the lead artist for Oxygen, which is the default on KDE and Kubuntu
[08:01] <Mamarok> and Air, of course
[08:48] <cjae> anyone use calibre, does the devices recently plugged in thing disrupt sending epub's to my sony reader
[09:08] <e01> hello
[09:08] <e01> how can i show the desktopp settings dialog
[09:08] <e01> i switched from plasma-netbook to plasma-desktop
[09:09] <e01> and still the right click doesn`t work
[09:23] <Mamarok> e01: did you remove the plasma-netbook package?
[09:23] <e01> no
[09:23] <Mamarok> then it is probably still running
[09:23] <e01> how to remove it?
[09:24] <Mamarok> also the other one would be kubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <naftilos76> hi everyone, is there a repository that contains binary pkgs of latest stable KDE? I'm currently on KDE 4.3.2!
[09:24] <Mamarok> e01: I did understand you correctly, you don't want to use the plasma-netbook anymore?
[09:24] <Mamarok> naftilos76: see /topic
[09:24] <e01> Mamarok: yes, it`s hardest for me to use the plasma netbook
[09:25] <Mamarok> e01: then do the following:
[09:25] <e01> than the native plasma-desktop
[09:25] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get remove --purge plasma-netbook
[09:25] <Mamarok> e01: and make sure you have the kubuntu-desktop installed first: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <Mamarok> e01: then restart KDE
[09:26] <naftilos76> Mamarok - i'm sorry, i don't get it! /topic?
[09:27] <Mamarok> naftilos76: type "/topic" and you will see the links
[09:27] <e01> Mamarok: now i have to reboot X
[09:27] <e01> Mamarok: now i have to reboot X?
[09:27] <Mamarok> e01: yes, restart KDE, that should be enough
[09:28] <naftilos76> Mamarok - Where should i type '/topic' ???
[09:28] <Mamarok> right here in the IRC client
[09:31] <naftilos76> Mamarok - Thanks, i thought you meant in the internet browser on something! I don't really know irc commands! I got it, thanks...
[09:31] <Mamarok> naftilos76: nice :)
[09:37] <e01> Mamarok: now i have other problem
[09:38] <e01> when i restart the kde, it start with blank black screen
[09:38] <e01> and i have to run manually the plasma-desktop
[09:38] <e01> is it possible to fix that
[10:02] <Mamarok> e01: then you are lacking some packages I think, just a second
[10:04] <Mamarok> e01: check that you have all kdebase-* packages installed
[10:05] <e01> Mamarok: i am a slacker, this kubuntu i just install on my new dell 9 mini
[10:06] <Mamarok> e01: well, then you should have sticked to the plasma-netbook
[10:06] <e01> because the *ubuntues are more humanity :) but by the way, i know nothin about ubuntu`s packages system
[10:06] <e01> can u help me with more basics
[10:06] <Mamarok> the desktop needs more files
[10:06] <Mamarok> how much memory does your dell 9 mini have?
[10:06] <e01> i am wondering for some way just to autostart 'plasma-desktop'
[10:07] <Mamarok> e01: that should, if you have the relevant packages installed
[10:07] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install kdebase-* should drag in all the packages
[10:07] <e01> ahm.. 1gb with 16gb ssd
[10:08] <Mamarok> which is tiny for a full fledged KDE desktop
[10:08] <Tm_T> kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace should be enough?
[10:08] <Mamarok> yes, still 16 gb ssd doesn't leave much room for user files
[10:08] <Tm_T> true that
[10:09] <Tm_T> well, only some ~14 GiB
[10:09] <Mamarok> e01: you should stick with plasma-netbook, it is optimized for such devices
[10:09] <Mamarok> Tm_T: not with a full KDE, that takes much more space
[10:09] <Tm_T> hmmm, difference is only in how desktop "looks" ?
[10:09] <e01> i am with kubuntu netbook remix
[10:10] <Tm_T> Mamarok: full KDE is something I see rarely installed anyway (:
[10:10] <Tm_T> anyway, irrelevant now
[10:11] <e01> and now the system is getting 2.7 gb space
[10:11] <e01> i think it isn`t many
[10:11] <e01> because on my deskrop`s slackware i am with xfce and the system is using over than 4gb
[10:12] <supun> anybody use huawei 156G modem
[10:12] <e01> and to say from my opinion these days
[10:13] <e01> i think kubuntu nr is faster than unr
[10:13] <e01> i don`t know why,... in desktops the gnome is looks faster than kde, but in this remixes knr is better
[10:13] <Mamarok> Tm_T: /me has a full KDE installed, sheer glory :)
[10:18] <emyller> supun: i use Huawei E156, why?
[10:18] <artemis_> hey guy
[10:18] <artemis_> can i ask a question?
[10:19] <artemis_> is there any program like ubuntu-tweak in kde ?
[10:19] <supun_> can you connect using Network manager
[10:19] <emyller> artemis_: most of the stuff you find in ubuntu-tweak are already in system-settings.
[10:19] <emyller> supun: yes
[10:20] <artemis_> example if i want to clear config file after remove program without purge ?
[10:20] <supun_> im using UMTSmon, my networkmanager not work
[10:21] <emyller> supun: http://emyller.net/blog/kubuntu3g/
[10:22] <supun_> im using kubuntu 9.04
[10:22] <emyller> supun: that also works for jaunty.
[10:24] <pompa_> hi everyone, I'm trying to mount my new ipod using ifuse, but I cannot find the device...
[10:24] <Mamarok> artemis_: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:24] <pompa_> I know it is connected because a lsusb gives me a Bus 001 Device 010: ID 05ac:1293 Apple, Inc.
[10:25] <Mamarok> pompa_: depends on your firmware version, the newer the device is, the less likely it will be usable with Linux
[10:25] <pompa_> Mamarok: But I suppose it should be at least mountable
[10:25] <Mamarok> pompa_: do you have libgpod installed?
[10:26] <pompa_> Mamarok: not yet
[10:27] <cojack> hello guys
[10:27] <cojack> some one upgrade kde to kde 4.4 beta 2 ?
[10:27] <pompa_> Mamarok: my problem is the mounting with ifuse
[10:28] <Mamarok> pompa_: I can only guess as I don't have such a device, and again, the newer the firmware, the less likely it will work
[10:28] <pompa_> Mamarok: i mounted it under gnome some times ago, using the commands: mkdir -p /media/iphone && ifuse /media/iphone
[10:28] <supun__> emyller: thanks
[10:29] <Mamarok> pompa_: well, then do the same :)
[10:29] <emyller> supun__: yw ;)
[10:29] <pompa_> Mamarok: but now it is not working
[10:29] <Mamarok> pompa_: then I don't know
[10:29] <pompa_> I'm just a newbie to kde so I was wondering if it could be due to some differences between KDE & Gnome
[10:29] <Mamarok> no, not AFAIK
[10:30] <supun__> emyller: do you use skype
[10:30] <Mamarok> command line tools are the same
[10:30] <cojack> ;)
[10:30] <emyller> supun__: rarely.
[10:30] <Peace-> zalve
[10:30] <Peace-> oh sorry hi :)
[10:30] <cojack> pompa_: install yakuake, maybe you'll like it
[10:30] <supun__> emyller: i cant connect, it gives me p2p connection failed
[10:30] <Mamarok> cojack: I use KDE SC 4.4. beta 2 here, besides some plasma crashes on start it runs fine
[10:31] <emyller> supun__: connect what? skype?
[10:31] <cojack> Mamarok: any errors with kdb ?
[10:31] <Mamarok> cojack: I don't see how yakuake can help mounting an iPhone
[10:31] <supun__> emyller: yup
[10:31] <cojack> Mamarok: it's not for help mount iphone on linux
[10:31] <emyller> supun__: i've no problems with it here other than - fixable - audio issues
[10:31] <Peace-> i complete mess upp here with kde 4.4 beta2
[10:32] <Peace-> don't install it
[10:32] <emyller> supun__: am using the real skype package, provided by skype
[10:32] <supun__> emyller: and allso my ktorrent not working
[10:32] <Mamarok> cojack: kdb?
[10:32] <emyller> Peace-: let others test it. it's working perfectly here.
[10:32] <cojack> Mamarok: I have a question about kde 4.4 beta 2, it's posible to have 2 diferent wallpapers on the 2 diferent desktop?
[10:32] <pompa_> cojack: seems nice
[10:32] <Mamarok> cojack: use activities for that
[10:33] <emyller> supun__: dunno what's happening. maybe someone else can help you if you give more details.
[10:33] <Peace-> emyller: if on you machine works that doesn't mean it's working in every machine
[10:33] <Peace-> then
[10:33] <emyller> Peace-: if on your machine it doesn't work that doesn't mean it won't work in every machine
[10:33] <emyller> then
[10:33] <cojack> Im still waiting for the same utility in kde 4.x what was in the kde 3.x
[10:33] <Mamarok> Peace-: it should work on most machines, there are problems qith Qt 4.6.0 with some apps, though, and the occasional plasma crash
[10:34] <Mamarok> cojack: don't wait, use the activities
[10:34] <cojack> Mamarok: what kind of acrivities?
[10:34] <cojack> activities ?
[10:35] <supun__> emyller: ktorrent gives me an error when it announcing
[10:35] <Mamarok> cojack: click on the cashew icon in the upper right corner, add an activity and change the desktop settings for it
[10:35] <Mamarok> cojack: then add the "Activity bar" to each so you can switch
[10:35] <emyller> supun__: maybe your network doesn't allow the p2p protocol or your torrent file is invalid.
[10:35] <Peace-> Mamarok: here  plasma doesn't work properly
[10:36] <Peace-> Mamarok: with intel driver....
[10:36] <Mamarok> Peace-: did you erase the config files?
[10:36] <Peace-> Mamarok: yap
[10:36] <Peace-> :) old kde user here :)
[10:36] <cojack> Mamarok: I know that, but it isn't so helpfull
[10:36] <Mamarok> Peace-: well, then file a bug, I have no problems with the Radeon driver for ATI
[10:36] <cojack> It still can set diferent wallpapapers in diferent desktop
[10:36] <cojack> what in the 3.x was normaly
[10:36] <supun__> emyller: no i can use it in windows
[10:37] <Mamarok> cojack: because it's not supposed to work, you set different activities with different backgrounds, not on each desktop
[10:37] <cojack> can/can't *
[10:37] <emyller> supun__: then i dont know what's happening.
[10:37] <Peace-> Mamarok: no well now i can't i messed up the system so i have , in 15 minutes, reset my system back yo kubuntu with 4.3.4
[10:37] <supun__> emyller: :-/
[10:37] <cojack> Mamarok: and about plasma plugins on desktop, you also can set it on what desktop you like it to show
[10:37] <Mamarok> Peace-: that's the whole point of testing a pre-release: testing and filing bugs
[10:37] <cojack> can/can't holly shit ;p
[10:38] <Mamarok> cojack: again, please read what I told you: you don't make settings specific to a particular desktop, it is not intended like this in KDE 4.x, use the activities
[10:38] <Mamarok> !language | cojack
[10:38] <cojack> Im sory
[10:39] <Peace-> Mamarok: i had to use my computer .... :)
[10:39] <cojack> Mamarok: I still dont understand you
[10:40] <cojack> what acitivities?
[10:40] <cojack> where to find it
[10:40] <Mamarok> cojack: you can't set per desktop wallpapers and widgets, and it will never work like that, that's what the activities are for
[10:40] <cojack> so tell me what is that activities?
[10:41] <Mamarok> cojack: read again what I said above, but I will repeat it here: click on the icon in the upper right corner of the desktop and add activities
[10:41] <Mamarok> cojack: I already told you so earlier, read what I write, please
[10:42] <cojack> Mamarok: can you give me a hint like a screenshot, becouse I can't find any activities there
[10:42] <Mamarok> cojack: which Kubuntu and KDE version do you have?
[10:43] <emyller> cojack: minimize every window. do you see a small thing in the top right corner with the Plasma logo?
[10:43] <emyller> the you control your activities.
[10:43] <cojack> Mamarok: the nevest
[10:43] <Mamarok> cojack: if you click on that icon in the upper right corner you get a menu
[10:43] <cojack> emyller: ofcourse
[10:43] <cojack> Mamarok: yes
[10:43] <Mamarok> read what that menu shows you
[10:43] <emyller> cojack: *there
[10:43] <cojack> add desktop element and others...
[10:44] <cojack> it's in my language, I have problem to translate it
[10:44] <Mamarok> cojack: don't read it here, read for yourself, does it talk about "Add activity"?
[10:44] <cojack> nope ;/
[10:44] <cojack> can you show my a screenshot?
[10:44] <emyller> Virtual Desktops are subitems of an Activity. they will inherit the activity settings such as wallpaper
[10:44] <Mamarok> if not, click on zoom out and you will see your desktop with a menu in the bottom left where you can add another activity with a + sign
[10:45] <cojack> wow
[10:45] <cojack> what is that
[10:45] <Mamarok> well, click on the + sign and choose "add an activity"
[10:46] <cojack> you mean a plasma widget?
[10:46] <emyller> no
[10:46] <Mamarok> no, a new activity
[10:46] <Mamarok> emyller: do you have KDE 4.3.4?
[10:47] <emyller> Mamarok: no :|
[10:47] <emyller> Mamarok: you on 4.4 too?
[10:47] <Mamarok> yes :)
[10:47] <cojack> Mamarok: I can't find it :(
[10:47] <Mamarok> cojack: you have a green + sign in the bottom right of the desktop, no?
[10:47] <cojack> no
[10:47] <cojack> wait
[10:47] <cojack> yes ;p
[10:47] <emyller> cojack: explore your plasma desktop and find the add activity option
[10:48] <emyller> it's very easy, i used it on kde4.3.x, but i don't remember exactly where it was
[10:48] <Mamarok> cojack: in the upper left corner you should have also a menu now
[10:50] <emyller> Mamarok: he will find it :)
[10:51] <cojack> Mamarok: Im still can't find any add activity
[10:52] <emyller> cojack: zoom out your current activity. i am sure you'll find it there.
[10:52] <cojack> In this menu I have add activity, but this option is disabled
[10:52] <Mamarok> cojack: then you have something missing in your installation
[10:53] <emyller> lol
[10:53] <cojack> hahaha ;p
[10:55] <Mamarok> cojack: do you have all plasma packages installed?
[10:57] <Mamarok> cojack: if you install the package kdeplasma-addons that should work, also you should have all kdebase-* packages
[10:58] <maksymiliana> mikrofon jest nieczynny
[11:01] <maek0> how do I install KDE 4.4 b2 without affecting my GNOME install ???
[11:02] <pompa_> one more question, I made a fresh install over a previous ubuntu one, Having the old home folder on a different partition I preserved all the datas, but I preserved also the old file association, and, for example, now my stupid stupid pc tries to open my media with vlc wich is not installed. How should I do?
[11:04] <Mamarok> maek0: see the topic
[11:04] <Mamarok> the link gives you all instructions needed, just keep in mind it is a pre-release
[11:04] <Mamarok> pompa_: the configuration files are in $HOME/.kde/share/config/
[11:05] <maek0> Mamarok, yeah but that will put KDE stuff in my GNOME menus ..
[11:06] <Mamarok> maek0: well, can't you disable that in the Gnome menu?
[11:06] <maek0> I remember there was a way to install KDE 4 into /opt/ so it would be separate to the GNOME install
[11:06] <maek0> how can I do that ??
[11:06] <Mamarok> maek0: I don't know about that, sorry
[11:07] <maek0> oh okay
[11:07] <Mamarok> maek0: I remember an option in the Gnome menu not to show KDE apps, once upon a time, maybe they removed that
[11:09] <vip> Hi there
[11:09] <Mamarok> !hi | vip
[11:09] <vip> does kubuntu-9.10 CD has sshd started by default?
[11:10] <maek0> Mamarok, thanks you have given me an idea ... its just that I'm itching to try out KDE 4.4 !!
[11:11] <cojack> vip: see the rc.d
[11:12] <vip> I can't
[11:12] <cojack> why?
[11:12] <vip> cause I've no physical access to .iso
[11:12] <cojack> ahh see
[11:12]  * cojack have no idea
[11:13] <pompa_> Mamarok: wich is the one with file associations?
[11:13] <pompa_> Mamarok: and can i simply remove the links or should i modify the actual ones?
[11:13] <Mamarok> pompa_: I don't know, but you can also change the file associations in the Systemsettings
[12:00] <jc0694> hello.  how do i quickly check disk space usage?  i'd like to do this from a gui if possible
[12:02] <Mamarok> jc0694: filelight is a nice tool
[12:02] <Mamarok> but not exactly quick on large disks for the first scan
[12:02] <Mamarok> the fastest way is in the command line: df
[12:03] <fanti> hello, when i play a video and having desktop effects enabled, the window which displays the video flickers a lot! i'm using the latest fglrx driver. any ideas?
[12:04] <Mamarok> fanti: disable the desktop effects, that uses a lot of RAM
[12:04] <Mamarok> fanti: how much RAM do you have?
[12:05] <fanti> Mamarok: i've 4 gb of ram and 512 mb of dedicated graphics memory
[12:05] <Mamarok> should be enough, something else running that uses a lot of memory? You can check with top or htop (not installed by default, but much nicer than top)
[12:06] <fanti> not even 50% of the RAM is used
[12:06] <Mamarok> fanti: which Kubuntu are you running? If it is 9.10, try the radeon driver, works better than the fglrx one
[12:06] <fanti> does the radeon driver support 3d acceleration?
[12:09] <fanti> 4 month ago (last time i checked this), radeon does not support 3d acceleration for my graphics card
[12:15] <soee> hi
[12:21] <petsounds> hi soee
[12:30] <jc0694> Mamarok, is filelight a built in tool in kubuntu 9.04?
[12:34] <jc0694> Mamarok, u there?
[12:34] <Mamarok> jc0694: no, not at all, you need to install it
[12:34] <Mamarok> sorry, was afk
[12:34] <jepong> hello... is there a fix/patch for the MSI WInd U100 brightness bug?
[12:36] <jc0694> no worries... is filelight a built in tool for kubuntu 9.4?
[12:36] <jc0694> *9.04?
[12:42] <jc0694> anybody know a built in utility in kubuntu 9.04 for looking at disk space?
[12:43] <jc0694> anybody?
[12:43] <Tm_T> jc0694: you can install filelight from repositories
[12:43] <jc0694> Tm_T, is that a widget thingie?
[12:44] <OxDeadC0de> df -h, du -h, uhh from the repos: various cli tools, filelight, baobab
[12:48] <jc0694> i'm looking for a gui already built into 9.04.  any ideas... i would try file light but i don't know much about installing apps yet
[12:49] <jc0694> Tm_T, u there?
[12:57] <jc0694> do u delete an application simply by manually deleting the directory and all files associated with it?  i mean, there's no registry or anything like that right?
[12:58] <jc0694> i have matlab installed and i'm trying to free up some space so do i just delete the installation directory and everything in it?
[12:58] <jc0694> does anybody every help anybody in this chat?
[12:59] <jc0694> is this the right place to find somebody to help me?
[12:59] <jc0694> hello?
[12:59] <||arifaX> jc0694: half of your question could be answered by google
[13:00] <||arifaX> jc0694: learn how to install apps if you want to install apps
[13:00] <bearbonez> jc0694: remove software using the kpackagekit app
[13:00] <jc0694> everything could be answered by google.... but i'm here instead
[13:02] <jc0694> thanks bearbonez...
[13:02] <bearbonez> np
[13:12] <radicaled> hi
[13:12] <radicaled> im from venezuela
[13:38] <renifer> hello
[13:39] <renifer> how to change click+wheel (on mouse) to wheel? (kde4+ubuntu)
[13:39] <renifer> (like windows)
[13:45] <bearbonez> renifer: try Systemsettings > keyboard&mouse
[13:45] <renifer> i tried this ;)
[13:46] <renifer> but in systemsettings i don't see this
[13:46] <renifer> 100%
[13:48] <punkerzecke> kann mir einer helfen mp3 widerkabe mit kubundu 9.11
[14:02] <pompa_> I need help for compiling from sources, anyone can help me? I'm at this point: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1442aa87
[14:09] <pompa_>   Could NOT find QImageBlitz (missing: QIMAGEBLITZ_INCLUDES
[14:09] <pompa_>   QIMAGEBLITZ_LIBRARIES)
[14:09] <pompa_> How to solve it?
[14:09] <FloodBotK1> pompa_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:40] <kermit_> Dear all, how can I install kubuntu from hard disk by setting grub? I don't what to use wubi.exe.
[14:40] <kermit_> How can I config the grub?
[14:41] <kermit_> I have uncompress the kubuntu.iso file on a fat32 disk
[14:41] <chibi-wing> kermit_: 1 question, what os are you running right now?
[14:42] <kermit_> kubuntu
[14:42] <kermit_> I want to reinstall it
[14:42] <chibi-wing> from what a cd?
[14:42] <kermit_> kubuntu-9.04-desktop
[14:43] <chibi-wing> are you running from a wubi install or a cd?
[14:43] <kermit_> yes, I run from wubi installed from windows using this cd
[14:44] <chibi-wing> do you have space for the real install?
[14:44] <kermit_> Now,I want to reinstall it by setting grub, I want to remove windows.
[14:44] <kermit_> 60G in total
[14:44] <kermit_> I want install ubuntu only
[14:45] <kermit_> I don't like windows, but I have no a kubuntu cd.
[14:45] <chibi-wing> ok right now your running kubuntu from the cd and nor wubi right?
[14:45] <chibi-wing> you can't do that
[14:45] <chibi-wing> since the system is on the windows partition
[14:45] <chibi-wing> that you will be deleting
[14:45] <kermit_> No, I have installed kubuntu in my system
[14:45] <kermit_> Not wubi
[14:46] <chibi-wing> so you have a real kubuntu install on the comp?
[14:46] <kermit_> I want to install a real and only Linux system on my PC
[14:46] <kermit_> Yes
[14:46] <chibi-wing> why not just delete the windows paritition
[14:46] <chibi-wing> and resize the kubuntu one?
[14:47] <kermit_> I want to resize all the paritition include / and /home and others
[14:47] <kermit_> any way to do that?
[14:47] <kermit_> I remembered set grub can reboot system the uncompressed disk
[14:47] <kermit_> And run a "live cd" from this disk
[14:48] <kermit_> Then install ...
[14:48] <chibi-wing> you know how to use pastebin?
[14:49] <chibi-wing> post up your partition profile
[14:50] <chibi-wing> that way we can see what can be done
[14:50] <chibi-wing> and also
[14:50] <chibi-wing> your mount profile
[14:51] <kermit_> chibi-wing, can I just reinstall it? Now I have no a real linux paritition. I don't understant what you told me, sorry.
[14:52] <kermit_> where's my partition profile?
[14:52] <kermit_> thanks
[14:52] <kermit_> fdisk -l ?
[15:07] <pompa_> ehm... I have the locale setting in Italian, but half of the system is in english. At the first boot a message appeared, telling me that I had to install some ackages for the italian languages, but at that time I accidentally close that window and it never showed up again, how can I do?
[15:15] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:40] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:45] <Illusioneer1> i am not sure if this is a question for this channel or the vmware channel, but I am running koala as a vm in my mac, are there any howtos for kernel tuning a linux OS for running on vmware?
[15:58] <volcano1d> HELLO.DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE WRT54GL LINXYS RUTER??
[15:58] <volcano1d> LINKSYS RUTER
[16:19] <[azrael]> what was the last kubuntu release that supported kde3?
[16:19] <peace-lucid> !offtopic | Paraselene__
[16:19] <peace-lucid> noo
[16:19] <peace-lucid> sorry
[16:20] <peace-lucid> !offtopic | peace-lucid
[16:31] <[azrael]> what was the last kubuntu release that supported kde3?
[16:32] <Dragnslcr> I think 8.04 was the last time that KDE3 was the default
[16:32] <[azrael]> ah yes
[16:32] <Dragnslcr> Can't remember if it was officially supported in 8.10
[16:34] <[azrael]> i already checked the wikipedia but it tells me nothing about that
[16:35] <[azrael]> uh oh the english one does
[16:36] <Segregation> Hello. I have a problem with skype sound flickering. My microphone is working fine. My friends can hear me swell, but i am hearing them with this anoying flickering like lag in the stream... any idea ?
[16:38] <[azrael]> use a telephone
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Segregation, are you using video as well, if so then your bandwidth might be too narrow for the whole signal and your audio is buffering
[16:40] <Segregation> no
[16:40] <Segregation>  it actually feels like everything is ok. They sound good. with a little break for about 0.01 sec everytime the mic on the other end sends
[16:41] <Segregation> tap tap tap tap tap in the background when they talk. really hard to pinpoint the prob
[16:42] <TheAncientGoat1> Nice job with the latest Kubuntu guys, faar better than the last few releases :)
[17:00] <Illusioneer1> instead of Koala perhaps something more fitting
[17:00] <Illusioneer1> how about Krashy? LOL
[17:02] <rstob911> very good name
[17:02] <Illusioneer1> i mean when konqueror can hose itself with a couple of google search pages, something is wrong
[17:02] <Illusioneer1> back to the drawing board :)
[17:04] <rstob911> no kidding i had to just scrap the hard drive install it is only going on vmware
[17:05] <Illusioneer1> yeah i learned NOT to use even release versions on anything but a VM
[17:10] <Quintasan> Krashy Koala? :D
[17:11] <nolan_> hi I have kubuntu 9.10 installed with kde 4.3.2 and I installed the glassified plasma theme. I didnt want it anymore so i clicked uninstall in the get new themes window, but it still remains on my themes list and I can still click and apply it.
[17:11] <nolan_> how do I remove it?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: lol
[17:12] <rstob911> warning hard hat area
[17:12] <shadeslayer> nolan_: log out and run : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
[17:12] <nolan_> thank you so much shadeslyer
[17:15] <supun> Mamarok: do you use skype ?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> supun: whats the problem?
[17:16] <supun> hey  any body using Skype?
[17:17] <shadeslayer> supun: not regularly...
[17:17] <supun> shadeslayer: i got p2p connection failed when going to log
[17:17] <shadeslayer> supun: can you try to run it in a konsole?
[17:18] <supun> shadeslayer: i will try it
[17:18] <Peace-> Mamarok: i have tried lucid and kde 4.4 beta2 ... i dunno why but it's pretty stable
[17:18] <Peace-> and fast
[17:19] <Peace-> now i am on karmic
[17:19] <Peace-> but i don't want upgrade maybe it's my driver that does t work properly
[17:19] <Peace-> here
[17:19] <Peace-> o the kernel
[17:19] <Peace-> bah
[17:20] <supun> shadeslayer: i use the konsole, problem exist!! :-(
[17:20] <shadeslayer> supun: whats the error on konsole?
[17:21] <jwg> When I click "Ok" in Kpackagekit to install something, it instantly closes with no further action.. how do I fix this?  Fresh install w/ updates done via cli
[17:21] <supun> shadeslayer:   no no, when enter the sudo skype , it opens the GUI of skype
[17:21] <nolan_> ok i logged out and went into runlevel1 and did the command you told me shadeslayer but it did not fix the issue
[17:21] <shadeslayer> supun: why would you use sudo?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> nolan_: hmm.. strange.. maybe its a bug?
[17:22] <jwg> If I use sudo instead of kdsudo will it break the package system?
[17:23] <nolan_> the weird part is its not just an entry i can still click on it and enable the theme
[17:23] <supun> shadeslayer:  run as root?
[17:23] <shadeslayer> supun: no i mean,you dont need sudo
[17:23] <supun> i am trying..
[17:23] <shadeslayer> nolan_: one sec theres something on KDE forums
[17:24] <BluesKaj> kdesudo is for gui , launching apps fom the run command
[17:24] <supun> shadeslayer: problem exist!!!
[17:24] <shadeslayer> nolan_: please dont PM
[17:25] <shadeslayer> !skype
[17:25] <nolan_> sorry
[17:25] <shadeslayer> supun: ^^
[17:25] <supun> ubottu: shadeslayer: thanx, i will check it
[17:27] <shadeslayer> nolan_: you should find the theme in : ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/
[17:28] <shadeslayer> nolan_: just delete the theme folder and you should be good to go :)
[17:28] <nolan_> thank you shadeslayer :) any idea why this happened?
[17:29] <nolan_> and it worked btw :)
[17:29] <shadeslayer> nolan_: nope no idea :P
[17:29] <nolan_> lol should i submit a bug report?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> nolan_: maybe its a bug... maybe it just doesnt work for you... who knows :P
[17:29] <shadeslayer> nolan_: sure go ahead,maybe youll find something on bugzilla :D
[17:31] <shadeslayer> emnolan_: btw ask on #kde too,if its a known probl
[17:31] <supun> shadeslayer: thanks, i found the bug
[17:31] <shadeslayer> supun: can you paste the link?
[17:32] <supun> shadeslayer: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=159621
[17:34] <shadeslayer> supun: so did it fix it?
[17:34] <supun> shadeslayer: yup, after running it as root, i logged in
[17:35] <shadeslayer> supun: -.-
[17:35] <shadeslayer> supun: you DO NOT need sudo to run skype
[17:35] <shadeslayer> supun: skype can be run as a normal user too!!!
[17:36] <supun> shadeslayer:  but i tried
[17:36] <shadeslayer> and YES bad things may happen :P
[17:36] <shadeslayer> supun: you tried what?
[17:36] <supun> shadeslayer:  run as normal user
[17:36] <shadeslayer> supun: just press alt+F2 and type : skype
[17:37] <shadeslayer> supun: after removing .skype?
[17:39] <supun> shadeslayer: the thing is my .skype folder is permission denied for me, i changed permission using chmod
[17:40] <shadeslayer> supun: thats the effect of using sudo... .skype was created by the skype run as sudo.. so it has admin permissions
[17:40] <shadeslayer> supun: remove using : sudo rm -rf .skype
[17:40] <supun> shadeslayer:  but it is in my home folder
[17:41] <shadeslayer> supun: where else would it create it? ><
[17:41] <supun> root's folder?
[17:41] <shadeslayer> heh... nope
[17:42] <shadeslayer> supun: skype is a bit... different
[17:42] <supun> shadeslayer: oki, oki wht is the different?
[17:42] <TheAncientGoat1> Does anyone know where the  µblog plasmoid's project page is? Someone really needs to make a new logo for it :\
[17:43] <shadeslayer> supun: well as you can see it uses your home folder not the roots folder
[17:43] <llutz> supun: sudo won't change users-environment, so it's not skypes fault creating settings-folder in users home
[17:43] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: try #kde
[17:43] <TheAncientGoat1> I thought it was a kubuntu project?
[17:44] <TheAncientGoat1> Hmm, I will ask over there though, thanks
[17:44] <supun> shadeslayer: so what su does?
[17:44] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: i thought it was a universal KDE project :P
[17:44] <shadeslayer> supun: its same as sudo... i think
[17:45] <Kolia> TheAncientGoat1: it's part of Plasma
[17:45] <Kolia> TheAncientGoat1: so you can talk of it on #kde or #plasma
[17:46] <llutz> supun: sudo runs commands with root-rights, su changes to root account (and runs commands then)
[17:46] <supun> llutz: yup , i got it
[17:47] <llutz> supun: and theres hardly reason to run non-administrative apps as root
[17:54] <supun> shadeslayer: do you use network management widget to connect?
[17:55] <shadeslayer>  supun yes
[17:55] <supun> shadeslayer: what is your modem?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> supun: its a beetel 220Bx
[17:57] <supun> shadeslayer: my one is huawei 156G, i cant connect using the widget
[17:57] <shadeslayer> supun: hmm tried wicd or nm-applet?
[17:58] <supun> shadeslayer: should i install?
[17:58] <shadeslayer> supun: yeah sure
[18:00] <supun> shadeslayer_:  A package dependency could not be found. i got the error
[18:01] <supun> shadeslayer:  allso my kpackage kit stucked
[18:01] <shadeslayer> supun: stuck ?
[18:02] <supun> shadeslayer:  yup, not responding
[18:02] <shadeslayer> supun: press ctrl+alt+esc and click on kpackagekit
[18:03] <supun> shadeslayer: thnxs
[18:03] <shadeslayer> supun: oh its not finished yet :P
[18:03] <shadeslayer> !aptfix | supun
[18:03] <shadeslayer> run that in a terminal :P
[18:08] <supun> shadeslayer:no nm-applet kpackagekit
[18:08] <supun> shadeslayer: no nm-applet
[18:09] <pincopallino> xdcc
[18:09] <shadeslayer> oh they removed it from the repos.... install wicd
[18:09] <shadeslayer> supun: install wicd then :)
[18:09] <supun> shadeslayer: no nm-applet in kpackge
[18:14] <shadeslayer> bbl guys :)
[18:18] <jwg> before I commnet out "blacklist ath_pci in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf .. Is there another way to get an Atheros AR2413 working?  use to under 8.04 but not on a fresh install of 9.10
[18:29] <shadeslayer>  /topic
[18:29] <shadeslayer> oops :P
[18:37] <sebastian> Hi people
[18:37] <sebastian> I need some advice...
[18:38] <shadeslayer> sebastian: shoot :)
[18:38] <sebastian> wich ppa to use for vdpau playback with smpplayer?
[18:38] <sebastian> google says a lot, its hard to find the latest and greatest
[18:38] <shadeslayer> ah the nvidia ppa with vdpau?
[18:39] <shadeslayer> sebastian: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[18:40] <njathan> how do i install handbooks in KDE? is there a 'apt-get install' way of doing it?
[18:40] <njathan> say i cannot find one for Amarok already installed
[18:40] <shadeslayer> njathan: um no... just install khelpcenter
[18:40] <sebastian> shadeslayer: awesome, thanks
[18:40] <sebastian> sebastian out!
[18:41] <njathan> shadeslayer: khandbook is already installed... handbooks for some apps are not
[18:41] <njathan> err.. khelpcenter is already installe
[18:41] <TheAncientGoat1> Has anyone gotten that win7 like kde task manager running in kubuntu?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: yeah
[18:42] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: install smooth tasks and add the widget
[18:43] <shadeslayer> njathan: theres no amarok handbook i think :P
[18:43] <TheAncientGoat1> shadeslayer: Cool, where would I get it though? Package manager, or kde-looks?
[18:43] <rstob911> TheAncientGoat1: i use lancelot i like it the best
[18:43] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: both have them
[18:43] <TheAncientGoat1> Isn't lancelot just a launcher though?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> njathan: confirm with #amarok please
[18:44] <njathan> shadeslayer: i can see one in docs.kde.org actually
[18:44] <shadeslayer> ah...
[18:45] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: dont forget to remove the taskbar widget though :)
[18:46] <TheAncientGoat1> shadeslayer: Oh yes, hehe
[18:51] <james> hi
[19:03] <Roasted> whats up guys
[19:12] <noaXess> hi all
[19:12] <noaXess> can someone look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347721/
[19:12] <noaXess> have medibuntu und vdpau repos activated..
[19:12] <noaXess> the problem is, that i can't install mythtv-fronted.. dependencies..
[19:13] <noaXess> mythtv-frontend: Depends: libmyth-0.22-0, libmyth-0.22-0: Depends: nvidia-185-libvdpau
[19:13] <noaXess> and if i try install nvidia-185-libvdpau apt-get will remove some packages like akregator amarok apport-kde apturl-kde ark digikam dolphin,............
[19:23] <TheAncientGoat1> Hmm, whats the best way to edit grub entries in kubuntu graphically?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: there isnt one for grub2
[19:30] <TheAncientGoat1> shadeslayer: :\
[19:30] <noaXess> any idea why installing nvidia-185-libvdpau  will remove a lot of packages? see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/347721/
[19:31] <TheAncientGoat1> Guess I'll have to dig up the config
[19:31] <TheAncientGoat1> shadeslayer: Is there an "open as root" plugin for dolphin or konq?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: i dont know :)
[19:32] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: kpackagekit and apt-cache search are youre friends :P
[19:32] <TheAncientGoat1> Does kate still freak out if you open it as root?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> TheAncientGoat1: nope
[19:32] <shadeslayer> just use kdesu
[19:32] <TheAncientGoat1> kpackage kit ain't my friend
[19:32] <TheAncientGoat1> It's search is le horrible
[19:37] <TheAncientGoat1> Grr, why does grub take so long to boot anyway?
[19:37] <TheAncientGoat1> The OS boots faster for goodness sake
[19:44] <donvito-> if i want in motd to shows the uptime of pc what do i need to type
[19:44] <donvito-> what kind of command let someone help me
[19:46] <Dusk> hi there...is there anybody with problem that weather applet doesn't find the city you live?
[19:46] <Dusk> i search my city in the applet settings but it can't find
[19:48] <Dusk> anybody there?
[19:51] <TheAncientGoat1> Dusk: Hmm, looks like it doesn't find mine either
[19:52] <TheAncientGoat1> Try a different one
[19:52] <TheAncientGoat1> under install new widgets
[19:52] <Dusk> lemme try
[19:57] <Dusk> it's ok now
[20:03] <user1_> $ firefox
[20:03] <user1_> (firefox:1677): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
[20:06] <jgt157_> can anyone help with a wicd problem?
[20:06] <usuario_> HI
[20:06] <usuario_> hola
[20:06] <jgt157_> hello
[20:07] <usuario_> how are you
[20:07] <usuario_> ?
[20:08] <user1_> $ firefox
[20:08] <user1_> (firefox:1677): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
[20:09] <usuario_> i don't speak english
[20:09] <usuario_> only the basics
[20:10] <jgt157_> user1, try deleting your .mozilla folder in your home directory and rerun firefox
[20:10] <usuario_> what?
[20:11] <usuario_> no entiendo nada
[20:11] <usuario_> help
[20:12] <jgt157_> what kind of help do you need
[20:12] <user1_> jgt157_:  right after installation. new kubuntu instal
[20:12] <user1_> iam trying to del
[20:13] <usuario_> who is it?
[20:16] <jgt157_> user1, rm -rf .mozilla is the command to use
[20:16] <usuario_> bye I'm leaving this program, that is not here, I do not understand
[20:16] <apparle> maco: you there?
[20:17] <maco> apparle: yeah..
[20:17] <maco> crimsun: yo!
[20:17] <maco> crimsun: can you help apparle with alsa hackery?
[20:18] <crimsun> in a few minutes
[20:18] <apparle> Actually I compiled ALSA yesterday and added a line to it to automatically detect my card....
[20:19] <apparle> But only thing is I don't know what to do so that it will be added to ubuntu bugs
[20:19] <crimsun> which line did you add?
[20:20] <maco> crimsun: a quirk
[20:21] <apparle> I don't remember exactly but it was something like 'SND_PCI_QUIRK(<mysubvendorid>,<mysubdeviceid>,"Foxconn RC4107MA",0),' to atiixp.c
[20:21] <apparle> crimsun: ^^
[20:22] <TheAncientGoat1> So, has anyone checked out the nepomuk-tasks stuff the mandriva guys have been working on?
[20:22] <crimsun> apparle: I need the precise line that you added.
[20:22] <maco> apparle: generate a patch and pastebin it?
[20:22] <apparle> crimsun: I'll just tell the line
[20:23] <apparle> maco: that's the problem, I don't know how to make patches
[20:23] <apparle> maco: crimsun: I'll reboot and be online in 5 min
[20:23] <Dusk> has anyone got problem with kopete-facebook plugin??
[20:24] <Dusk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/347761/
[20:24] <Dusk> that's my problem about the facebook plugin of kopete
[20:25] <scunizi> Is one.ubuntu.com integrated into 9.10?
[20:28] <apparle> crimsun: I added "	SND_PCI_QUIRK(0x105b, 0x0c81, "Foxconn RC4107MA", 0)," to line 301 of /alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp.c in the source downloaded by the command 'apt-get soruce alsa-base'
[20:29] <Dusk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/347761/
[20:29] <Dusk> can anyone look into this?
[20:29] <apparle> crimsun: here is the bug report I filed for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/498863/ Now how to submit the patch
[20:32] <apparle> maco: how to generate patches
[20:38] <apparle> crimsun: u there?
[20:38] <crimsun> apparle: not enough info. Please use apport-collect -p alsa-base 498863
[20:39] <apparle> crimsun: I have a university connection with all ports except 443 and 80 blocked and them also through a proxy server..... so I can't use apport-collect
[20:39] <apparle> crimsun: what info do you need I can provide it to you
[20:41] <jgt157_> can anyone help with a wicd problem?
[20:41] <crimsun> apparle: apport-cli ?
[20:43] <apparle> crimsun: I have already uplodaded the report generated by  apport-cli on the bug page
[20:45] <crimsun> weird, I don't see any attachments or comments
[20:46] <apparle> crimsun: here is the link I took from the same page http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36999580/apport.alsa-base.cSFOHh.apport
[20:48] <apparle> !pasebin
[20:48] <apparle> !pastebin
[20:49] <apparle> crimsun: Can't you see this http://imagebin.org/77099 on the bug page?
[20:54] <apparle> When I Suspend to RAM and then resume... the system starts but monitor remains off what to do?
[20:56] <apparle> what is the meaning of this line in fstab
[20:56] <apparle> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:56] <mofa> apparle: make sure your video driver is at the latest version
[20:57] <apparle> mofa: it is latest
[20:57] <mofa> apparle: and that mounts the proc filesystem, located in /proc, which provides all kinds of various information about your computer
[20:57] <crimsun> apparle: pushed, thanks.
[20:59] <apparle> crimsun: how did you do it... I want to learn the procedure
[20:59] <apparle> mofa: it comes before the main partition mounting so how does it happen?
[21:00] <crimsun> apparle: are you familiar with git?
[21:00] <mofa> apparle: the order doesn't matter
[21:00] <apparle> crimsun: nope...
[21:01] <apparle> mofa: what happens if I remove it from fstab
[21:01] <mofa> apparle: i wouldn't do it, a lot of programs use /proc
[21:02] <skierpage> I'm running Kubuntu 9.10 and suddenly after a reboot alsa and PulseAudio apps make no sound.  Phonon stuff (Amarok, system sounds) still work but no Flash sound.  Where's a guide to debugging these?  Should I join another IRC channel?
[21:02] <voodoochile> I'm trying to add a shortcut to a bashshell to the panel but all i seem to be able to add is a submenu that points to the shell that I want to open.. is there some other way to do this that I havent discovered yet?
[21:02] <crimsun> apparle: will you be around for an hour?
[21:03] <apparle> mofa: crimsun ya
[21:03] <crimsun> apparle: I'll give an Ubuntu classroom session on the process in about an hour
[21:03] <apparle> mofa: errors=remount-ro means what?
[21:03] <apparle> mofa: earlier on was not for you
[21:03] <apparle> crimsun: then i'd do it tomorrow if its fine with you
[21:04] <apparle> crimsun: :D Coz I got to sleep... it 2:30am here
[21:04] <mofa> apparle: if there is some kind of error while the filesystem is mounted, then remount it as read-only to prevent anything other errors
[21:04] <crimsun> apparle: sorry, can only do it in an hour, but the sessions are logged
[21:07] <apparle> crimsun: plzzzzzzzzzzz its 2:30am here I need to sleep.. if not tomorrow you tell me whatever time you feel good later
[21:07] <crimsun> apparle: sorry, but I'm on assignment, so my time is severely limited
[21:07] <crimsun> apparle: please just read the logs, then catch me via e-mail if you have questions
[21:08] <apparle> crimsun: ok.... tell me the irc channel name and pm me your mail... I'll read the logs
[21:08] <crimsun> apparle: ~crimsun on LP; see contact info there.
[21:09] <crimsun> apparle: ubuntu-classroom is the irc channel
[21:09] <crimsun> apparle: logs are available at irclogs.ubuntu.com
[21:09] <apparle> crimsun: Ok... and thanks for all your help regarding the bug
[21:09] <crimsun> apparle: yw
[21:09] <apparle> crimsun: how long does a session last?
[21:10] <crimsun> apparle: as long as it needs to
[21:10] <crimsun> apparle: I can cover this material in ten seconds if necessary
[21:10] <apparle> crimsun: :D Where can I find more info on ubuntu-classroom and how they operate
[21:11] <crimsun> apparle: via wiki.ubuntu.com
[21:12] <apparle> crimsun: and what should I do with the bug report.. submission of the fix and marking it as fixed etc.
[21:12] <crimsun> apparle: I've taken care of it
[21:26] <Roasted> my faithful kubuntu work laptop no longer boots to the login screen. It shows kubuntu with the loading bar... and never goes to the login screen. No changes were made. No updates were applied. What the...?
[21:26] <||arifaX> Roasted: hard disk failure?
[21:26] <Roasted> XP still works (dual boot)
[21:27] <||arifaX> Roasted: that says nothing. could be that the part of the disk is broken where kubuntu lives
[21:27] <Roasted> *shrug* assuming its not the disk, then what?
[21:27] <Roasted> its a brand new laptop :(
[21:28] <Roasted> well, sorta
[21:28] <Roasted> 6 months old now I guess
[21:28] <FloodBotK3> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <Roasted> I was actually in kubuntu too about 10 minutes ago
[21:28] <Roasted> and rebooted it
[21:28] <||arifaX> Roasted: try to give some boot options to show what it does during boot
[21:29] <Roasted> meaning what?
[21:31] <Roasted> the other kernel does the same thing in the boot menu
[21:31] <Roasted> so much for bringing this laptop home to get caught up on work :/
[21:31] <apparle> Roasted: boot with the splash disabled to recognize the boot problem
[21:31] <Roasted> apparle - how
[21:31] <trevor> my hardware drivers jockey keeps crashing on me, how else can i install my ATI drivers ?
[21:32] <||arifaX> Roasted: you can also press ctrl+alt+f1 during boot to see some messages. but the nosplash would be nice. - try that first to find out more
[21:32] <dontknow> does anyone read me?
[21:32] <||arifaX> dontknow: copy that
[21:33] <dontknow> ok! thank you!
[21:33] <apparle> Roasted: when you see the grub edit the command to boot normally
[21:33] <||arifaX> dontknow: that remembers me my old CB-Radio times :) CQ CQ CQDx this is.... calling for dx and standing by :)
[21:34] <dontknow> hahaha
[21:34] <apparle> Roasted: and remove the quiet and splash in the end of one command and then boot
[21:34] <dontknow> yes is true, I used to speak like that too
[21:36] <mofa> sometimes when i boot kubuntu, I'll get an error saying "General error mounting filesystems" and im dropped to a root shell. It also says to press Ctrl+D when im done
[21:36] <trevor> anyone??
[21:36] <mofa> i can immediately press Ctrl+D and it continues to boot just fine
[21:37] <mofa> what confuses me most though is that this doesn't always happen on every boot
[21:37] <apparle> trevor: which card?
[21:37] <trevor> ati radeon 3100
[21:37] <trevor> it works with jockey in gnome, i dont know why jockey isnt working on kde
[21:37] <Roasted> apparle - what would have caused this? do you know?
[21:38] <apparle> Roasted: that's what we are trying to detect
[21:38] <BluesKaj> tevor, drop to a tty ,alt+f2, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, install the driver ,then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[21:38] <apparle> trevor: is it HD3100?
[21:38] <trevor> it is apparle
[21:39] <trevor> and i will try that BluesKaj
[21:39] <apparle> trevor: follow BluesKaj :) correct
[21:39] <BluesKaj> trevor, alt+f7 to get back to the desktop
[21:39] <apparle> BluesKaj: but I don't think he knows how to install the driver in shell
[21:39] <trevor> i dont apparle
[21:40] <apparle> BluesKaj: ^^
[21:40] <trevor> is there some instructiosn ic an follow or print out?
[21:40] <trevor> i could just try to install envy couldnt i?
[21:40] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install nameofgraphicsdriver
[21:40] <Roasted> apparle - the only thing I changed when my system was working is I fired up that K and R tray thing and changed my resolution, then rebooted. Would that case anything?
[21:41] <BluesKaj> !envy | trevor
[21:41] <trevor> BluesKaj: , why is it not reccomended, do you knpow?
[21:42] <BluesKaj> trevor, it can break your setup badly
[21:42] <trevor> oh lame
[21:43] <BluesKaj> trevor, what driver do you need ?
[21:43] <apparle> trevor: install the package 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' and then see if jockey works
[21:43] <trevor> !BinaryDriver
[21:43] <r00t_ninja> trevor: have you refreshed your package list
[21:43] <Roasted> I get no options during booting when I hit CTRL ALT F1
[21:43] <Roasted> :(
[21:43] <r00t_ninja> then used jockey
[21:43] <trevor> i have refreshed
[21:43] <r00t_ninja> also you sometimes have to reboot if youve already run jockey
[21:43] <r00t_ninja> its a wierd bug
[21:44] <apparle> trevor: ahhh yes.... you have to refresh them 'sudo apt-get update' is the command
[21:44] <apparle> Roasted: did you try my method
[21:44] <r00t_ninja> make sure the driver is actually selected when you click activate
[21:44] <trevor> apparle: i did refresh
[21:44] <r00t_ninja> by double clicking the one you wnat
[21:44] <trevor> lol yes it is selected
[21:44] <apparle> trevor: I suggest you install the package I mentioned and then try
[21:44] <r00t_ninja> you actually have to click it it appears to be selected by default
[21:44] <Roasted> apparle - you said CTRL ALT F1 to see messages. I didnt see any. And I have no idea how to edit it for no splash. It hought that would be it there.
[21:44] <trevor> i will
[21:45] <Roasted> how is it possible that I change the screen resolution and reboot and now my system wont function? :(
[21:45] <apparle> Roasted: I didn't suggest that... I suggested trying to edit the command
[21:45] <Roasted> apparle - again, I dont know how to edit that.
[21:45] <trevor> ok apparle that seems to be working, thank you!
[21:46] <senya> всем привет, есть кто из России?
[21:46] <maco> !ru | senya
[21:46] <apparle> Roasted: how have you installed kubuntu..... inside windows or complete install?
[21:46] <Roasted> complete
[21:47] <r00t_ninja> Roasted: what happens to cause it to not function?
[21:47] <dkkong> I'm having a problem with Karmic's PPC Image. I've burned 4 cds, all of which were good according to the MD5 sum, and everytime I install it, it reboots, but when I enter my username and password, I get authentication failed error. Help!
[21:47] <Roasted> r00t_ninja - I dont know. I just changed my resolution in the K and R display thing, and rebooted.
[21:47] <Roasted> Now when it boots up the login screen never comes up.
[21:49] <r00t_ninja> Roasted: it could be something else because im fairly sure the randr settings are user specific
[21:49] <apparle> Roasted: ok.... when you see grub read the instructions to edit command given and the bottom and follow themm... remove the 'splash quiet' at the end of one command and then boot
[21:50] <Roasted> what instructions?
[21:50] <r00t_ninja> Roasted: are u able to drop to a shell?
[21:50] <Roasted> r00t_ninja - no
[21:50] <Roasted> I see the kubuntu loading screen
[21:50] <Roasted> then it fades out, and I have nothing
[21:50] <r00t_ninja> what happens when u press ctrl + alt + 1
[21:50] <r00t_ninja> what happens when u press ctrl + alt + f2
[21:51] <Roasted> I tried ctrl alt f1, nothing happened
[21:51] <Roasted> this is DURING boot right?
[21:51] <r00t_ninja> im guessing its a xorg problem
[21:51] <Roasted> no idea man
[21:51] <Roasted> changing resolution shouldnt do this to a system
[21:51] <Roasted> ever
[21:51] <r00t_ninja> i dont think that is it though
[21:52] <Roasted> thats all that changed though man
[21:52] <r00t_ninja> that resolution change only applies to that user
[21:52] <Roasted> I was on the system, changed resolution in RR tray, rebooted, thats it. period. done. That was all that happened :(
[21:52] <r00t_ninja> do you have auto login?
[21:52] <apparle> Roasted: wait what's is the problemmmm does the splash disappear? and you have blank screen? or you have the splash screen continuously
[21:53] <apparle> r00t_ninja: Roasted what is RR tray?
[21:53] <Roasted> KR and R tray
[21:53] <Roasted> apparle - I see the Kubuntu logo with the bar beneath it going back and forth loading.
[21:53] <Roasted> apparle - after a while, it just disappears as if Ill see the login screen
[21:53] <Roasted> but the login screen never comes up
[21:54] <Roasted> maybe I should boot to a livecd and nuke the xorg?
[21:54] <apparle_> Roasted: what is RR tray?
[21:54] <r00t_ninja> can you boot the recovery mode?
[21:54] <apparle_> Roasted: and what is your Gfx card?
[21:55] <Roasted> apparle - intel
[21:55] <Roasted> r00t_ninja - from the boot menu that is?
[21:55] <r00t_ninja> yes
[21:55] <Roasted> let me try
[21:56] <r00t_ninja> one you have booted that run the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:56] <Roasted> booting in recovery mode now
[21:56] <r00t_ninja> ok
[21:56] <apparle_> r00t_ninja: rather 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[21:57] <Roasted> now Im at a prompt
[21:57] <Roasted> initramfs
[22:03] <rohdef> how can I connect to my mobile broadband using kubuntu? I can see that it detects it and all that, but when I click the connection I manually (ehm.. what about using Ubuntu's approach to this?) set up, nothing happens
[22:04] <r00t_ninja> right click on the networkmanager systray icon , manage connections , mobile broadband , no clue from there
[22:05] <rohdef> not at all, all settings is the same as they are in Ubuntu
[22:06] <Roasted> so Im at the initramfs thing
[22:06] <Roasted> what do Id o?
[22:07] <rohdef> r00t_ninja, btw. I'm on win atm. due to the problems, so I can only go by memory though
[22:10] <Roasted> so, do I have to reinstall, or what?
[22:17] <Roasted> :(
[22:20] <BluesKaj> Roasted,ctrl+alt+f2 get to a tty
[22:20] <apparle> Roasted: what happened I was not there connection problem
[22:21] <Roasted> apparle - nothing happened. Im about to slap fedora on this thing now
[22:21] <apparle> I mean did you try recovery mode?
[22:21] <Roasted> nothing happened when I do CTRL ALT F1 and F2
[22:22] <BluesKaj> Roasted, looks like you need to reboot
[22:22] <Roasted> to reboot?
[22:22] <Roasted> or reinstall?
[22:22] <Omar87> How do I make my bug reports more useful?
[22:22] <Roasted> apparle - I did but I got to initramfs and that was it. no idea what else I had to do
[22:23] <apparle> howcome you ended in intrafms that before even kubuntu loading
[22:23] <r00t_ninja> he booted recovery mode
[22:23] <BluesKaj> initramfs is something not to be trying unless you really know what you're doing
[22:24] <Roasted> that was when I hit recovery mode
[22:24] <Roasted> CTRL ALT F1 and F2 do nothing when Im booting
[22:24] <Roasted> Im heading out now, Ill try this again later. If it doesnt work Im gonna take this opportunity to try fedora :P
[22:24] <Roasted> anyway I appreciate the help guys
[22:24] <apparle> BluesKaj: yes but that comes up only when there is something with loading kernel ? iesn't it
[22:26] <BluesKaj> apparle, dunno enough about it
[22:26] <apparle> Roasted: wait goto recovery mode
[22:26] <apparle> Roasted: when you are in it
[22:27] <apparle> just type quit
[22:27] <apparle> 'quit'
[22:27] <apparle> On my computer intrafms sometimes just pops up when it can't load from hdd
[22:28] <apparle> I just quit and then loading continues
[22:30] <admin0> ыыы
[22:34] <jwg> I'm booting and the desktop isn't loading.. how do I get it to load.. I get past the boot screen and kwallet password reqeust then the default backdrop and no.. plasma?  How do I fix this?
[22:36] <apparle> jwg: I didn't understand plz elaborate
[22:37] <jwg> apparle: on boot I get the normal boot screen and the icon set showing the load process.  when the full desktop is suppose to appear all I get is the spash screen.. blue with the bubbles/lines. the defaut.. no menu bars or plazmoids
[22:38] <jwg> apparle: I'm on TTY2 with irssi right now
[22:38] <apparle> jwg: how did htis happen
[22:38] <jwg> apparle: no idea.. just did the install, all updates, configurations.. nothing unusual.. unplugged and moved it 30 miles and viola! no desktop appearing
[22:39] <apparle> jwg: can you right click on the desktop?
[22:40] <jwg> apparle: I'll check hang on.
[22:40] <jwg> apparle: must have just taken some time to bring it up.. it's now there in entirety on ctrl+alt+F7.. weird that it took so long.
[22:41] <apparle> jwg: also check if you run dialog appears when you press Alt+F2
[22:42] <jwg> apparle: could be the ATI card and drivers.. it's a Radeon 9600.. no hardware drivers appeared so it's stock default for what kubuntu wants to use..
[22:42] <jwg> apparle: when the desktop wasn't appearing alt+f2 did bring up the run dialogue
[22:42] <apparle> jwg: mine gives no problem with open source driver Radeon Xpress 200... recently filed a bug and got it working
[22:43] <jwg> apparle: how do I check to see what driver is actually being used?
[22:44] <jwg> I think this driver is also called a ??350
[22:44] <apparle> jwg: I mean I have Radeon xpress 200 which works just fine with default stock driver (Opensource)
[22:45] <BluesKaj> apparle,, good to know in case my nvidia card dies
[22:45] <jwg> understand.. how do I check to see what drivers are loaded for mine?
[22:45] <jwg> BluesKaj: nvidia is much easier in my opinion.. :)
[22:46] <BluesKaj> jwg, it is but my onboard is an ati 200m
[22:47] <apparle> jwg: I agree nvidia is better........... anyways you could check with 'lspci -v'
[22:47] <jwg> k
[22:48] <BluesKaj> my ati is disabled in the bios , since installing the nvidia pci
[22:48] <jwg> looks like the radeon driver is loaded.. but it's hard to tell with that info.
[22:49] <apparle> jwg: can you right click?
[22:49] <jwg> on the screen?
[22:50] <jwg> yep.. apparle right click works on the screen.
[22:50] <r00t_ninja> jwg: add panel?
[22:50] <jake___> apparle: now on the desktop with a different nick
[22:51] <jake___> normal panels are showing up.. would you like me to add another?
[22:51] <r00t_ninja> oh o dw
[22:53] <apparle> jake___: are the normal panels ther?
[22:53] <jake___> apparle: yep :)
[22:53] <apparle> jake___: so everything is normal ?
[22:53] <jake___> yep.. thanks for the help..
[22:54] <apparle> jake___: but how did I help
[22:54] <apparle> jake___: everything seems to have fixed itself
[22:56] <jake___> apparle: seems to have fixed itself with time.. just took a while to show the entire desktop.. that's why I was asking about the ati drivers.. if they are slow then teh desktop usually takes a while.. I discovered that with bad nvidia drivers..
[22:57] <apparle> My drivers also load slowly but after they are loaded everything works fine
[22:58] <jake___> apparle: I'm setting this up for my son.  I just logged him into his aim account with Kopete.  How do I get his contacts to show? do you know?
[23:00] <apparle> jake___: I use gmail... and there contact get loaded automatically
[23:02] <jake___> apparle: got it.. kopete just isn't configured out of the box to show the contacts.
[23:02] <apparle> jake___: good for u
[23:03] <jake___> apparle: I'm a 5 year gnome guy.. so kde is a little foreign to me.. :)  I like it though.
[23:04] <r00t_ninja_> jake__: what protocol?
[23:04] <apparle> jake___: I suggest you install the package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:04] <r00t_ninja_> also i dont think offline contacts are set to show by defualt
[23:06] <jake___> apparle: did that already and installed flash for youtube.. got screen irssi and a few other installed as well
[23:06] <r00t_ninja_> jake___: what protocol?
[23:07] <ToxinPowe_> jake___: restricted-extrad have flash, you installed twice =)
[23:07] <apparle> jake___: install kdeplasma-addons kscreensavers kdegames
[23:08] <jake___> apparle: ok..
[23:08] <jake___> ToxinPowe_: I realiezed that aftwards and fixed it..
[23:08] <jake___> r00t_ninja_: AIM.
[23:09] <ToxinPowe_> jake___: hehe, I'm a gnome old guy too =)
[23:10] <apparle> ToxinPowe_: ;) I am a KDE since I started linux
[23:10] <jake___> apparle: is it kdescreensavers?  kscrensavers didn't computer using apt-get
[23:10] <jake___> *compute
[23:11] <apparle> jake___: kscreensaver
[23:11] <ToxinPowe_> apparle: linux user since 97 xD
[23:11] <apparle> jake___: the plural is not there :)
[23:11] <apparle> ToxinPowe_: I am only 2 year old linux user
[23:13] <ToxinPowe_> ;)
[23:15] <jake___> Is "apturl" installed by default?  for installing stuff from www.playdeb.net?
[23:18] <r00t_ninja__> jake___: yes but it doesnt appear to work with firefox-kubuntu
[23:19] <jake___> r00t_ninja_: too bad.. guess I'll load their .deb that add their repos..
[23:19] <ToxinPowe_> apparle: I didn't know "kdeplasma-addons", thanks
[23:20] <apparle> ToxinPowe_: I also found out recently which trying to fix twitter plasmoid
[23:20] <ToxinPowe_> is posible clear the screen (Control+L) on quassel?
[23:20] <jake___> How do I clear the trash.. I don't see a can on the screen
[23:21] <apparle> jake___: kmenu Computer trash
[23:22] <apparle> how to assign application to various file types in firefox
[23:23] <jake___> apparle: is there an "empty trash" button or do I just highlight and delete?
[23:23] <jake___> apparle: nevermind.. right mouse click the can on left and say empty
[23:25] <jwg> apparle: sorry.. closed quassel and tought it would plant itself in the task bar.. at any rate.. thanks.. you've been a big help.. gotta run.. food call!
[23:26] <apparle> jwg ok bye
[23:44] <cjae> how do I seatch with quassel  for keywords  of  channels and such
[23:44] <soee> anyone who tried nvidia 195.30 beta drivers?
[23:46] <BluesKaj> cjae, /list in the server text box
[23:46] <BluesKaj> soee, which card?
[23:46] <soee> 8800 gt
[23:48] <BluesKaj> I run the 190 driver and it 's fine with my 7600gt...dunno about the 195 tho
[23:49] <ToxinPowe_> 8600GT 195.30 Lucid Lynx, works for me
[23:50] <soee> ok.nice thnx
[23:50] <soee> ToxinPowe_: hows the Lucid working now in alpha stage ?
[23:51] <ToxinPowe_> unstable, kopete and kmess dont work, gdm broken
[23:51] <ToxinPowe_> ubuntu+kubuntu installed
[23:53] <ToxinPowe_> sry for my poor English =)
[23:53] <soee> np :) thnx for info