[00:00] $ cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* | pastebinit [00:00] http://pastebin.com/f65476bb1 [00:00] thanks [00:00] Making [00:01] there goes Saturday [00:01] (12:00:28 AM) Day changed to 27 Dec 2009 [00:02] crimsun: /sbin/depmod -a 2.6.32-9-generic [00:02] BUGabundo: ok, do you have powerdown active right now? [00:02] what's powerdown? [00:02] grep hda-intel /etc/modprobe.d/* [00:03] http://pastebin.com/f5694ff47 [00:03] eww [00:03] you should rm /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf~ [00:04] done [00:04] please erase the " power_save_controller=N" [00:05] done [00:05] and ~ removed [00:05] can you check again about the backup file? [00:06] i.e., make sure there isn't one [00:08] $ ls /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf* | pastebinit [00:08] http://pastebin.com/f719adf9 [00:08] (12:05:08 AM) freenode: and ~ removed [00:09] ok, now I need you to verify that there's an audible pop when the controller powers down after 10 idle seconds === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [00:13] crimsun: no sound for at least a minute [00:13] and now I just got a pong [00:13] no POP [00:13] some glichts in some of them [00:13] but nothing out of usual [00:13] no POP [00:13] ok, that's the power_save_controller [00:14] now, you should reboot [00:17] well since you ask so nicelly [00:17] BBR rebooting [00:21] crimsun: back [00:21] sound working [00:21] YAY [00:21] well, I'm not so concerned about sound working [00:21] I want to know if you can hear a 'pop' when the controller powers down after 10 seconds [00:21] lol [00:21] well, I am [00:22] let me see if I can go soundless for that long [00:22] ping me in 10 [00:22] (I think you can ping yourself ;) [00:22] BUGabundo: ping [00:22] no pop [00:22] and sound still works, correct [00:22] ? [00:22] yes [00:22] I think so [00:23] please verify that sound still works :) [00:23] ping me :) I can't ping myseft [00:23] wait, it works [00:23] just got a pong [00:23] ok, does suspend/resume work on your machine? [00:23] not resume from hibernation [00:23] it always does clean boot :(( [00:24] from the last two weeks [00:24] but resume from suspend-to-RAM does, correct? [00:24] BluesKaj: not that king [00:24] *kind [00:24] crimsun: I'll have to test [00:24] worked last weekend [00:24] don't use it that much [00:24] please suspend-to-RAM, then resume and verify that sound is still audible [00:24] ok [00:24] ahhh [00:24] that [00:25] sound usualy is mutted after that [00:25] and network fails to start [00:25] but ill test again [00:26] BUGabundo, then what kind , don't see your ip ? [00:27] sound works after resume [00:27] BUGabundo: please pastebin your /proc/asound/card*/codec* [00:27] Morning all. [00:27] BUGabundo: and, thanks for testing! [00:28] crimsun: http://pastebin.com/f324f1bc4 [00:28] always glad to make Ubuntu Better [00:28] ah, , great. [00:28] 0x10ec0883 [00:28] those are the nasty ones [00:28] crimsun: you wouldn't be running +1 for 4 years if I didn't like testing stuff [00:29] BUGabundo: eh? [00:29] I've been breaking things for a living since I was 16 [00:29] s/you/I/ [00:29] ah [00:30] crimsun, are you a demolition expert? [00:30] I also beta test, LP, OOo, pidgin, android, NM, FF, chromium, a several other floss related services/apps [00:30] bjsnider: LOLOL [00:30] bjsnider: heh [00:30] breaking *in* [00:35] BUGabundo: regardless, thanks for testing. I don't have enough Best Buys locally to verify all my fixes. [00:36] i need libmozjs-dev as a build-dep, but that file wants to pull out the entire desktop [00:37] i could use seamonkey-dev, but i think that would result in the binaries uselessly pulling in seamonkey [00:38] $ aptitude why-not libmozjs-dev [00:38] i firefox Depends firefox-3.5 [00:38] i A firefox-3.5 Depends xulrunner-1.9.1 (>= 1.9.1) [00:38] i A xulrunner-1.9.1 Conflicts libmozjs-dev [00:38] i need xulrunner [00:38] but so does everything else [00:39] do you actually *need* libmozjs-dev? [00:39] bjsnider: have you tried #ubuntu-mozillateam ? [00:39] it contains a magical header [00:39] which magical header? [00:39] it contains the header for spidermonkey [00:40] jsapi.h [00:40] get it from LP ? [00:40] what i can't understand is how sebastian got the previous version to compile without that header [00:40] i mean it isn't here in the build-dep list [00:40] but the build log clearly demands it [00:41] apt-file search jsapi.h|grep -v ^libmoz [00:41] kompozer-dev: /usr/include/kompozer/js/jsapi.h [00:41] seamonkey-dev: /usr/include/seamonkey/js/jsapi.h [00:41] sunbird-dev: /usr/include/sunbird/js/jsapi.h [00:41] thunderbird-dev: /usr/include/thunderbird/js/jsapi.h [00:41] xulrunner-1.9.1-dev: /usr/include/xulrunner-1.9.1.6/unstable/jsapi.h [00:41] so, why not use xulrunner-1.9.1-dev ? [00:42] that package is in the list [00:42] in what list? [00:42] the build-dependency alternates? [00:44] that package in karmic contains the header, but what about lucid? [00:51] the file is unquestionably there, but not being found [00:51] I'm running lucid, and I refreshed apt-file before I did the search [00:52] $ dpkg-deb -c xulrunner-1.9.1-dev_1.9.1.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb |grep jsapi [00:52] -rw-r--r-- root/root 103631 2009-12-15 09:35 ./usr/include/xulrunner-1.9.1.6/unstable/jsapi.h [00:53] make sure you're using the correct preprocessor path [00:54] where is that set? [00:54] in the source code [00:55] [of whatever you're trying to compile] [00:55] actually [00:55] the proper way is to use the pkg-config file [00:56] i had to run the autogen script before i could get to this point, but i doubt anything went wrong [00:58] what's probably happened is i didn't prepare this code properly [00:58] it was just a bunch of raw git stuff [00:59] it wasn't a tarball with all required files or anything [01:02] is it just me or is pylint uninstallable in lucid atm? [01:03] it isn't you [01:03] ok :) [01:03] interesting, you just helped me uncover an apt-get bug [01:04] well that's something I suppose :) [01:04] Ng: not you, bjsnider [01:04] lol [01:04] The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-logilab-astng: Depends: python-logilab-common (>= 0.45.0) but it is not going to be installed [01:04] or then again [01:06] crimsun: I'm curious how that's an apt bug? the dependency isn't satisfied by the current archive [01:07] Ng: apt-get -s install python-logilab-astng [01:07] Ng: then, sudo apt-get -s install python-logilab-astng [01:08] bah, it's a heisenbug [01:08] output of those seems to be very much the same apart from the simulation warning [01:09] except that every once in a while, you get: [01:09] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [01:09] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [01:09] and that very much *is* a bug [01:10] not seeing that, but it may be a hardware related timing thing I suppose [01:11] in which case it's still a bug (: [01:12] hang a sec, I'll look at logilab-common [01:12] it looks like it just needs a merge [01:15] maybe crimsun needs a hiesnburg compensator? [01:15] that would rock [01:15] MAUAUAUAUAU [01:15] 27/Dec/2009 01:15:09 [ edge.c:1136] Using supernode 88.86.108.50:82 [01:15] ERROR: ioctl() [No such file or directory][2] [01:15] why why why [01:16] thos was working so well a week ago :(((( [01:17] Ng: sec, testing [01:18] :) [01:19] !find mozilla-js.pc lucid [01:19] File mozilla-js.pc found in xulrunner-1.9.1-dev [01:24] is it just me or is Totem lacking total playing time , when windowed? [01:35] the upstream debian package failed for exactly the same reason. so it's nothing i've done [01:45] hey all [01:46] anybody using Lucid lynx? [01:47] no, it's win95 channel =) [01:47] ToxinPowe: touché [01:49] ???? [01:49] anybody alive for help? [01:52] always [01:52] xfact: don't ask to ask, just ASK [01:52] nope we are here for the music and free beer..:D [01:52] beer?! [01:52] i_is_broke: and killing bunies on release dates [01:52] lol [01:53] I am using Ubuntu 8.04 LTs, and now this 10.04 LTS released, but why not it's showing in my upgrade list? [01:53] And I am here for getting help... [01:53] It's not officially released yet. [01:53] um cause 10.4 isnt released yet. [01:53] This is the alpha 1 stage [01:53] lucid won't be released until april [01:53] beta hasnt even been released yet. [01:54] heck [01:54] xfact: it hasn't been released yet [01:54] do you guys think he got the picture? [01:54] No [01:55] what sort of people still use hardy? [01:55] it's a very conservative choice [01:56] BUGabundo: Really, it's already out for download and to use....@! [01:56] I have checked it on the web [01:56] It is available to _test_ [01:56] chu_: can we even call this testing ? [01:56] You mean Beta version like [01:56] Probably not. [01:56] its more like breaking on every step [01:56] xfact: no... not even alph2 [01:56] Maybe I won't upgrade then! [01:57] !schedule > xfact [01:57] xfact, please see my private message [01:57] upgrade in april [01:57] Breaking news, Lucid is out... only Canonical don't know yet :P [01:57] I usually upgrade to beta and everything's good. [01:57] Ng: sorry, taking a bit longer than anticipated due to testing [01:57] ahhahaahahaahahahahahahahaaahahahahahah [01:57] ToxinPowe: you win the award of the week [01:57] Was just getting a bit keen for Lucid. It sounds promising. [01:57] chu_: I jumped on day 2 [01:58] shhhh! dont tell them either.lol [01:58] 2 days after karmic release [01:58] Well, new to ubuntu...no idea about these 'alpha' codes and stuffs.... [01:58] xfact, are you an oem user? [01:58] Well, it's an introduction to software development in general. [01:58] in other words, did you buy a dellbuntu system? [01:59] Be right back, coffee... [01:59] what is oem...I just know I am a windows user, just interested to ubuntu [02:00] you said you were using hardy [02:00] crimsun: np at all :) [02:05] Would you say it's too ambitious to write a native gtk calendar application? [02:06] like evolution? [02:06] I've never used evolution, let me see. [02:08] THat's awesome. [02:20] bye people [02:20] see ya [02:31] Ng: uploaded; thanks for catching the unmetdep [02:31] crimsun: thanks very much :) [02:34] BUGabundo: around? [02:35] anyone around who wants to help me confirm a bug? [02:35] yoasif: still [02:35] wathing TopGear [02:36] BUGabundo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/500672 confirm away ;) [02:36] Ubuntu bug 500672 in gnome-control-center "[lucid] setting keyboard shortcut for switching between windows of an application does not work with compiz" [Undecided,New] [02:37] done [02:37] thanks BUGabundo [04:22] howdy all [04:22] anyone still alive? [04:25] yep [04:27] i died in the war [04:27] :o [04:27] so i'm wondering if anyone here has been having grub problems? [04:28] hmmm dont know i havent rebooted in a couple of days...kind of afraid too..lol [04:28] hold let me see [04:28] yeah i get a grub rescue prompt with an error grub symbol grub_gettext not found [04:29] i successfully booted into my system ONCE using a solution i found on the forums, but it doesn't work for me anymore [04:30] http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361013 [04:32] nope no issues with grub, booted right back up. [04:33] hmmm [05:02] Ng: how's pylint working? [05:59] * om26er got disconnected === \vish is now known as mac_v === mac_v is now known as \vish [08:25] howdy, attempting to login to Google Reader causes my computer to restart immediately [08:26] happens every time in Firefox, Chrome, Konqueror, and Arora, my graphics card is Intel GM45 (laptop) [08:26] reproducible with 'vesa'? [08:28] let me try, I'll be back [08:28] jbicha1: i used to have a computer with similar symptoms a few years back, it did have a damaged motherboard that caused it.. it did reboot/crash on a lot other things as well though, but they were all specific little things like flash though^ [08:31] crimsun: how do I force vesa? [08:31] jbicha: i used to have a computer with similar symptoms a few years back, it did have a damaged motherboard that caused it.. it did reboot/crash on a lot other things as well though, but they were all specific little things like flash though^ [08:31] thanks, I don't have flash installed yet [08:32] yeah, im just saying if you start finding a lot of other things like that then it might be the hardware itself, as it is quite weird to have that problem with so many different browsers [08:32] jbicha: probably easier to create a skeleton xorg.conf [08:32] might be still with graphics drivers etc though [08:32] I think in Jaunty days xforcevesa was good enough [08:52] I couldn't figure out how to forcevesa, when I tried moving xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf, I didn't get any display at all [09:47] crimsun: just installed, it doesn't work :/ [09:48] crimsun: I think something is wrong with the logilab thing, pylint is exploding because it can't find logilab.common.modutils when doing "from logilab.common.modutils import NoSourceFile, is_python_source" in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/logilab/astng/manager.py (line 30) === ruskie_ is now known as rsk [12:15] hi [12:56] guud morning [13:02] yo [13:12] since exaile is totally broken on my side [13:12] what other Music Player do you guys recommend ? [13:14] well its not totem..thats for sure, i never can get it to play right. [13:15] it was playing fine up until a few revisions [13:15] I just upgraded to last branch, deleted all local settings [13:15] and still it will get into a loop, when I right click a folder [13:16] well i run kde so im an amarok person...but if i had to use a different one it would be mplayer. [13:17] mplayer? to manage a 100GB music collention? [13:17] nope [13:17] well i dont have that much.lol [13:17] well yet. [13:20] although i have heard people talking about banshee but i havent tried it, yet. [13:26] you could try bangarang if you like new, shiny things [14:11] BUGabundo, banshee [14:11] it's heading for default player status [14:24] * penguin42 is running Exaile, but with a fix for it's memory leak [14:25] * penguin42 eats that apostrophe [14:27] we all make mistake's [14:31] no updates even today? [14:32] transmission is not upto date in lucid and someothers too so is there a way that i might be able to upload them? [14:39] * penguin42 considers updating that--> box to Lucid; but I need to figure out what I need to do given it has xorg-edgers packages in [14:40] penguin42: ask bjsnider [14:40] he seems to have an working ppa [14:41] * penguin42 tickles bjsnider [14:41] BUGabundo: It's my new fiddle machine - it's currently running karmic with a 2.6.33rc2 kernel and the xorg-edgers packages, but when ever I hit a Radeon problem the answer seems to be to try a newer X server (which the base intrepid has) [14:43] lol [14:43] * bjsnider slaps penguin42 about the head and shoulders with a large carp [14:43] * penguin42 takes the carp [14:44] * bjsnider ducks [14:44] * penguin42 penguins [14:44] bjsnider: So BUGabundo suggests asking you about updating to lucid; I've got the xorg-edgers PPAs in - is the best bet to remove the PPA from the sources and then update or what? [14:45] my ppa only deals with nvidia cards [14:45] ah, hmm [14:45] anything generally I should be careful of with Lucid at the moment? [14:46] regarding xorg? [14:46] generally - or is it mostly OK at the moment? [14:46] no idea. i don't run lucid [14:46] this is a production machine here [14:46] bjsnider: LOLOLOL [14:47] penguin42: X broken [14:47] * penguin42 checks which channel he's in [14:47] BUGabundo: Ah, any particular form of broken? [14:47] no, only the nvidia X driver is broken [14:47] penguin42: you should remove this ppa - because its thought to be used complete - but the xorg is new in Lucid... [14:47] there's no rule that says i have to run lucid to be in here [14:47] ok, fglrx too afaik [14:47] yofel: But I assume those are both interfaces to binary drivers that have changed [14:48] penguin42: yes, unless you use nvidia or ati X works fine [14:48] yofel: And by ati you mean the closed source ati [14:48] the nviudia blob's problem is that it needs to be rebuilt to provide xserver-xorg-video-6 [14:48] instead of 5, which conflicts with ubuntu-dekstop [14:49] nod, not a problem here - I'm using the open source radeon drivers [14:49] penguin42: yes, I don't have an ati card so I don't know more, iirc DanaG has one [14:49] i think radeon's in good shape [14:49] bjsnider: Yes it is, the xedgers set I'm running at the moment, 3D works well for things like google earth [14:50] except for that pesky bug where it rm -rf's your root partition [14:50] * penguin42 runs do-update-release -d and hopes for the best [14:50] bjsnider: Pah, that's normal [14:50] alex deucher coded that in there for the holidays as a small joke that only he gets [14:51] bjsnider: As long as it doesn't actually create a black hole under the CPU I'd say it's OK for a dev release :-) [15:01] * penguin42 wonders if theres a way to figure out whether there are any edgers packages left after the upgrade [15:04] I've read awhile ago that Lucid was going to include 2.6.34 kernel. Where would I check on things like that? [15:04] 2.6.32 [15:04] 2.6.34 wont even be out yet [15:04] given that .33 isn't out yet, and it's probably a bit difficult to say when 34 will land it would be hard to predict [15:05] penguin42: apt-cache policy xorg* ? [15:06] maco: Hmm interesting, I'll try it - although since I've removed the ppa from the sources I'm not sure that'll help [15:07] or I will, after the update finishes [15:07] penguin42: apt-show-versions is what you want [15:07] most likely with | fgrep -v uptodate [15:08] Thanks [15:27] !find Meta-2.28.typelib lucid [15:28] File Meta-2.28.typelib found in libmutter0 [15:33] !find GstVideo-0.10.typelib lucid [15:33] File GstVideo-0.10.typelib found in gir1.0-gst-plugins-base-0.10, ia32-libs [15:34] maxb: apt-show-versions works nicely (and finds 7 packages that were still from the old edgers) [15:34] crimsun: if you have some time, I would like to start taking the headphone bug :( [15:36] now the question is do I downgrade to the versions in lucid or move to the lucid version of edgers - hmm [15:40] !info gobject-introspection-repository [15:40] Package gobject-introspection-repository does not exist in lucid [15:40] guhhhhh [15:41] bjsnider: I have a ppa for songbird and can't see any packages from it in my system [15:41] so I guess APT DB is broken too [15:41] lolol [15:42] BUGabundo, can you search for gobject-introspection-repository plz [15:42] $ apt-cache search gobject-introspection-repositor [15:42] ZERO [15:43] if that package does not exist in lucid, then what is this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/gobject-introspection-repository [15:44] eheh [15:44] i can download the package right off that site [15:55] oh, the status says "deleted" [15:55] but why was it deleted [15:55] was it superseded by something else? [16:01] * penguin42 reboots and hopes for the best [16:03] hmm - ok, tell me about plymouth [16:06] penguin42: not working here [16:07] If I try and boot a custom kernel build it gets to mountall complaining it can't speak to plymouth; and drops me to a shell [16:07] last I heard on fc plymouth was something that normally lived in an initrd - is an initrd with plymouth now required? [16:09] penguin42, when i install plymouth intramfs is also updated [16:09] !find JSCore-1.0.typelib lucid [16:09] File JSCore-1.0.typelib found in gir1.0-webkit-1.0 [16:10] om26er: It's a pita that you need an initrd for a custom kernel with everything built in [16:12] (and booting into the Lucid kernel with the edgers X gives me a dead system - hmph) [16:22] Can someone tell me what version of libdevmapper they have installed on lucid? The one I have here doesn't seem to want to talk to my 2.6.33 kernel even though the karmic version spoke to it [16:24] actually scrap that [16:57] Ng: hmm, looks like a problem with our pyshared [17:01] Ng: I'll look at it now [17:01] BUGabundo: the what bug? [17:01] none so far [17:02] I've digged LP and dint find one similar [17:02] although I've hear more ppl report it [17:02] I'll file a new one [17:02] BUGabundo: I don't know what you're talking about [17:02] crimsun: alsa-base? [17:02] crimsun: no stereo in head phone [17:02] actually, sound in just ONE of the earphone [17:03] file a bug [17:03] It'll be a few hours before I can look anyhow [17:03] ok [17:03] I've lived with it since for ever [17:03] so I can wait [17:08] crimsun: is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/484576 Mac specific? [17:08] Ubuntu bug 484576 in alsa-driver "[9.10] macbook 2.1 sound jack outputs one channel only" [Undecided,New] [17:09] BUGabundo: no idea; do your codecs match precisely? [17:09] no idea [17:09] I'm filling a new one [17:09] sorry, I'm kinda busy with Ng's bug ATM [17:10] crimsun: FYI https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/500828 or anyone else who can see similar prob [17:10] Ubuntu bug 500828 in alsa-driver "no audio in one of headphone channels " [Undecided,New] [17:10] crimsun: take your time, no worry [17:13] Ng: sorry, no, it's because I suck [17:14] Ng: fixed, uploaded. Sorry! [17:18] yeh, working - somehow the upgrade managed to remove the xserver-xorg-radeon and ati packages - and for reasons I don't quite get without them it hung solid === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:32] !test [17:33] yes, I'm alive. [17:33] is 190.35 the newest nvidia drivers? [17:33] i can't seem to use ubuntu restricted drivers after my upgrade to 10.04 [17:34] billybigrigger: that's due to an ABI bump in the X server [17:34] the current restricted Nvidia drivers in the repo are incompatible [17:34] how about from nvidia.com [17:34] bjsnider has a separate PPA if you'd like to use those [17:34]