/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/12/27/#ubuntu-ops.txt

elkycan someone deal with scott__ in #ubuntu please01:01
Picielky: I asked him to join #ubuntu-irc, since hes talking about -au I think.01:01
elkyyeah. he's being abusive and swearing and harrassing a user who doesn't personally use ubuntu anymore but still hangs and discusses01:02
elkysec, i'll pastebin some context for you01:04
elkyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/347335/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/347336/01:07
elky(parents dragging me off to visit relatives soon)01:10
Picielky: Thanks01:12
mneptokwhat a charming fellow.01:12
elkyyeah.01:13
PiciHes in pm now...01:13
elkyhe's now announcing to the non-offtopic au channel that i'm abusing powers... which is clearly evidenced by his ability to talk smack about me there.01:13
mneptoki will e-mail Mark Shuttleworth about him.01:13
PiciThats what hes telling me too01:13
bittwistHi there, bazhang had me remove a bot that was doing a bit of preemptive moderation for the malicious peers freenode has been dealing with03:16
bazhangbittwist, wirebot is still in channel03:16
bittwisti already said one was a ghost03:17
bittwistsince ubuntu is a large channel its given me a great oppurtunity to detect and ban malicious peers before they reach a few channels of smaller size03:17
bittwistsince its a bot that is clearly denoted, and has no public commands, i'd like it to lurk around and monitor03:18
bazhang* [WireBot] (n=a@unaffiliated/bittwist/bot/wirebot): _03:18
bittwistdo i need to go over there and ghost it to make you happy? i dont even recall the nick off the top of my head03:18
bittwistthere we go03:19
bittwistanywho, its done a brilliant job so far at getting malicious peers before they can reach the channel03:21
bittwistthe ones targetting the network at least03:21
bittwistit would be a shame to not allow it because i was kind enough to clearly denote what it was03:22
bittwistthis is just a simple script that i could load into my client and use03:22
bazhangPici, you around? thoughts on this?03:23
bittwistits only purpose is intel to better moderate, really would be a shame to lose the first spot the peers join to harass03:25
bittwistalso, if you really do want to exclude the peers who go through the process for getting a bot cloak here on freenode, you should have the03:27
bittwist*!*@unaffiliated/*/bot/*03:27
bittwistban mask set03:28
bittwistit'll block all the legit bot cloaks freenode has given out :p03:28
bazhangbittwist, thanks for removing the bots; will need to consult with other operators on allowing them back in; as none seem to be around right now, please rejoin later.03:49
bittwistaw, you can unilaterally ask to remove bots but not temp ok? :P03:51
bittwistyea no problemo, i'll try to remember03:51
bittwistif you would like to investigate the output of it all, feel free to join ##Politics-Spam03:52
bittwistwhen something gets triggered, a notice goes there03:52
bittwistand if its ban worthy, its applied in the main channel03:52
bittwistcya03:52
bazhangterrorink refusing to respond via PM, now ban evading04:10
MenZamorning, bazhang04:58
bazhangMenZa, hi06:00
bazhangdrmanhattan? thought he was unbanned06:03
MenZaI thought he was too06:07
bazhangwhoa terrorink sussed out my email06:08
MenZa?06:11
bazhangthreats no less06:13
bazhang[terrorink] (n=terror@bas1-london14-1167853155.dsl.bell.ca  one of at least five06:14
MenZahmm06:19
bittwistbazhang: still around?07:13
mneptokbittwist: bots /join-ing #ubuntu* channels without prior consultation with the ops team or the IRCC are not welcome.07:39
mneptokbittwist: if you think the bot has functionality the channels need, then start a discussion about it on one of the relevant mailing lists.07:39
Mamarokbut his bot is still here07:44
bt42where in #ubuntu is it07:45
bt42kinda hard for it to be there when it is not07:46
Mamarokbt42: did you read what mneptok told you earlier? ^^07:46
bt42yes, but your comment stood out more, since the bot is not in the channel07:46
bt42mneptok: the functionality would be what i told to bazhang earlier07:47
mneptokbt42: please e-mail the list with the idea07:47
bt42mneptok: not entirely worthy of starting a thread on a website or email list when this is all occuring on irc07:47
bt42#ubuntu is one of the first channels the malicious have been joining due to size07:48
mneptokbt42: if you don't want to follow the standard procedure for such things, you may then assume the bot is unwelcome, and will remain so.07:48
bt42the ability to ban them before they get to mine is rather nice07:48
bt42i was told to come here to ask07:48
mneptokbt42: and the answer is "you should bring it up on the list"07:49
bt42i dont know of any mailing lists07:49
bt42i only came to ubuntu since it was a source of the problems that were occuring in a channel i help moderate07:49
mneptokthe channel is not the source of the problem. specific users are.07:50
mneptokhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-irc07:50
bt42Mamarok: so i take it you have not found it in the channel07:55
Mamarokbt42: nvm07:55
bt42mneptok: does the archive get automatically updated or do i have to subscribe for checking responses in a prompt fashion?07:56
mneptokbt42: if you are not subscribed your e-mail is sitting and awaiting moderation07:58
bt42no i'm seeing what kind of bureaucracy there is :P07:59
mneptokhmmm?08:00
mneptok"bureaucracy?"08:00
mneptokmost e-mail lists do not allow unmoderator posts from non-subscribers.08:01
mneptoks/or/ed/08:01
mneptokBTW, a "peer" on IRC is a server, not a client. :)08:03
bt42good for it08:03
mneptokso if i understand correctly, the sole purpose of this bot is to look for malicious activity in #ubuntu, and then place bans in your channel based on that?08:05
bt42since if ircops are not scrubbing furiously, they arrive there minutes later08:06
bt42yes08:06
mneptokthen my guess is that the bot will remain unwelcome.08:07
mneptokthere are hundreds (if not thousands) of channels on Freenode. what would #ubuntu look like if *every* other channel wanted to do the same thing you want to do?08:08
mneptokpersonally, i'd be against the idea. but that's me. the list will sort it out.08:08
bt42really i do not get the difference between having this script on a personal client and a unique one08:10
bt42its a client, it supports scripted events, a lot of people in ubuntu are using them right now to better their irc experience08:11
bt42since i was nice enough to group this on their own client, and put in for a bot cloak to staff, i get isolated for what others do without notice08:11
bt42anyways, i've typed this all out before08:13
ubottuAPERSON called the ops in #ubuntu ()08:58
mneptokFYI, the "DrManhattan" nick is used by 2 different people. one has regg'ed the nick and is banned from a Charter cable IP in California. the other is active in #u now from a Comcast IP in Maryland.09:16
bazhangthanks for the info09:16
mneptokand the current person s also off-topic and unhelpful09:16
mneptokthe nick seems to attract the "wrong sort"09:16
mneptok:/09:17
mneptokOK, bedtime for me.09:17
mneptoknighty!09:17
* Gary tucks in mneptok 09:58
MamarokFYI: I will be away next week, don't know yet if I will have net access10:15
bazhangteam trolling in -ot10:50
Myrtticould a factoid master check !clone17:20
Myrttiin addition of it suggesting a solution that doesn't seem to work anymore (atleast for me), it has characters that aren't uniquely interpreted as they should as reported by saica on #ubuntu just now17:20
ubottuguntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (poot is back)19:15
Myrttilooking at it19:15
Myrttihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f1889a96019:43
jussi01Myrtti: do you think you could work the script to pull dates also?20:59
Myrttijussi01: no.21:02
jussi01ok :)21:02
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Lokin said: ubottu: This is all one box.22:20
elkyPici, that scott fellow is back. just a heads up in case it spills to #u again22:59

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