[01:01] <elky> can someone deal with scott__ in #ubuntu please
[01:01] <Pici> elky: I asked him to join #ubuntu-irc, since hes talking about -au I think.
[01:02] <elky> yeah. he's being abusive and swearing and harrassing a user who doesn't personally use ubuntu anymore but still hangs and discusses
[01:04] <elky> sec, i'll pastebin some context for you
[01:07] <elky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/347335/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/347336/
[01:10] <elky> (parents dragging me off to visit relatives soon)
[01:12] <Pici> elky: Thanks
[01:12] <mneptok> what a charming fellow.
[01:13] <elky> yeah.
[01:13] <Pici> Hes in pm now...
[01:13] <elky> he's now announcing to the non-offtopic au channel that i'm abusing powers... which is clearly evidenced by his ability to talk smack about me there.
[01:13] <mneptok> i will e-mail Mark Shuttleworth about him.
[01:13] <Pici> Thats what hes telling me too
[03:16] <bittwist> Hi there, bazhang had me remove a bot that was doing a bit of preemptive moderation for the malicious peers freenode has been dealing with
[03:16] <bazhang> bittwist, wirebot is still in channel
[03:17] <bittwist> i already said one was a ghost
[03:17] <bittwist> since ubuntu is a large channel its given me a great oppurtunity to detect and ban malicious peers before they reach a few channels of smaller size
[03:18] <bittwist> since its a bot that is clearly denoted, and has no public commands, i'd like it to lurk around and monitor
[03:18] <bazhang> * [WireBot] (n=a@unaffiliated/bittwist/bot/wirebot): _
[03:18] <bittwist> do i need to go over there and ghost it to make you happy? i dont even recall the nick off the top of my head
[03:19] <bittwist> there we go
[03:21] <bittwist> anywho, its done a brilliant job so far at getting malicious peers before they can reach the channel
[03:21] <bittwist> the ones targetting the network at least
[03:22] <bittwist> it would be a shame to not allow it because i was kind enough to clearly denote what it was
[03:22] <bittwist> this is just a simple script that i could load into my client and use
[03:23] <bazhang> Pici, you around? thoughts on this?
[03:25] <bittwist> its only purpose is intel to better moderate, really would be a shame to lose the first spot the peers join to harass
[03:27] <bittwist> also, if you really do want to exclude the peers who go through the process for getting a bot cloak here on freenode, you should have the
[03:27] <bittwist> *!*@unaffiliated/*/bot/*
[03:28] <bittwist> ban mask set
[03:28] <bittwist> it'll block all the legit bot cloaks freenode has given out :p
[03:49] <bazhang> bittwist, thanks for removing the bots; will need to consult with other operators on allowing them back in; as none seem to be around right now, please rejoin later.
[03:51] <bittwist> aw, you can unilaterally ask to remove bots but not temp ok? :P
[03:51] <bittwist> yea no problemo, i'll try to remember
[03:52] <bittwist> if you would like to investigate the output of it all, feel free to join ##Politics-Spam
[03:52] <bittwist> when something gets triggered, a notice goes there
[03:52] <bittwist> and if its ban worthy, its applied in the main channel
[03:52] <bittwist> cya
[04:10] <bazhang> terrorink refusing to respond via PM, now ban evading
[04:58] <MenZa> morning, bazhang
[06:00] <bazhang> MenZa, hi
[06:03] <bazhang> drmanhattan? thought he was unbanned
[06:07] <MenZa> I thought he was too
[06:08] <bazhang> whoa terrorink sussed out my email
[06:11] <MenZa> ?
[06:13] <bazhang> threats no less
[06:14] <bazhang> [terrorink] (n=terror@bas1-london14-1167853155.dsl.bell.ca  one of at least five
[06:19] <MenZa> hmm
[07:13] <bittwist> bazhang: still around?
[07:39] <mneptok> bittwist: bots /join-ing #ubuntu* channels without prior consultation with the ops team or the IRCC are not welcome.
[07:39] <mneptok> bittwist: if you think the bot has functionality the channels need, then start a discussion about it on one of the relevant mailing lists.
[07:44] <Mamarok> but his bot is still here
[07:45] <bt42> where in #ubuntu is it
[07:46] <bt42> kinda hard for it to be there when it is not
[07:46] <Mamarok> bt42: did you read what mneptok told you earlier? ^^
[07:46] <bt42> yes, but your comment stood out more, since the bot is not in the channel
[07:47] <bt42> mneptok: the functionality would be what i told to bazhang earlier
[07:47] <mneptok> bt42: please e-mail the list with the idea
[07:47] <bt42> mneptok: not entirely worthy of starting a thread on a website or email list when this is all occuring on irc
[07:48] <bt42> #ubuntu is one of the first channels the malicious have been joining due to size
[07:48] <mneptok> bt42: if you don't want to follow the standard procedure for such things, you may then assume the bot is unwelcome, and will remain so.
[07:48] <bt42> the ability to ban them before they get to mine is rather nice
[07:48] <bt42> i was told to come here to ask
[07:49] <mneptok> bt42: and the answer is "you should bring it up on the list"
[07:49] <bt42> i dont know of any mailing lists
[07:49] <bt42> i only came to ubuntu since it was a source of the problems that were occuring in a channel i help moderate
[07:50] <mneptok> the channel is not the source of the problem. specific users are.
[07:50] <mneptok> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-irc
[07:55] <bt42> Mamarok: so i take it you have not found it in the channel
[07:55] <Mamarok> bt42: nvm
[07:56] <bt42> mneptok: does the archive get automatically updated or do i have to subscribe for checking responses in a prompt fashion?
[07:58] <mneptok> bt42: if you are not subscribed your e-mail is sitting and awaiting moderation
[07:59] <bt42> no i'm seeing what kind of bureaucracy there is :P
[08:00] <mneptok> hmmm?
[08:00] <mneptok> "bureaucracy?"
[08:01] <mneptok> most e-mail lists do not allow unmoderator posts from non-subscribers.
[08:01] <mneptok> s/or/ed/
[08:03] <mneptok> BTW, a "peer" on IRC is a server, not a client. :)
[08:03] <bt42> good for it
[08:05] <mneptok> so if i understand correctly, the sole purpose of this bot is to look for malicious activity in #ubuntu, and then place bans in your channel based on that?
[08:06] <bt42> since if ircops are not scrubbing furiously, they arrive there minutes later
[08:06] <bt42> yes
[08:07] <mneptok> then my guess is that the bot will remain unwelcome.
[08:08] <mneptok> there are hundreds (if not thousands) of channels on Freenode. what would #ubuntu look like if *every* other channel wanted to do the same thing you want to do?
[08:08] <mneptok> personally, i'd be against the idea. but that's me. the list will sort it out.
[08:10] <bt42> really i do not get the difference between having this script on a personal client and a unique one
[08:11] <bt42> its a client, it supports scripted events, a lot of people in ubuntu are using them right now to better their irc experience
[08:11] <bt42> since i was nice enough to group this on their own client, and put in for a bot cloak to staff, i get isolated for what others do without notice
[08:13] <bt42> anyways, i've typed this all out before
[09:16] <mneptok> FYI, the "DrManhattan" nick is used by 2 different people. one has regg'ed the nick and is banned from a Charter cable IP in California. the other is active in #u now from a Comcast IP in Maryland.
[09:16] <bazhang> thanks for the info
[09:16] <mneptok> and the current person s also off-topic and unhelpful
[09:16] <mneptok> the nick seems to attract the "wrong sort"
[09:17] <mneptok> :/
[09:17] <mneptok> OK, bedtime for me.
[09:17] <mneptok> nighty!
[09:58]  * Gary tucks in mneptok 
[10:15] <Mamarok> FYI: I will be away next week, don't know yet if I will have net access
[10:50] <bazhang> team trolling in -ot
[17:20] <Myrtti> could a factoid master check !clone
[17:20] <Myrtti> in addition of it suggesting a solution that doesn't seem to work anymore (atleast for me), it has characters that aren't uniquely interpreted as they should as reported by saica on #ubuntu just now
[19:15] <Myrtti> looking at it
[19:43] <Myrtti> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f1889a960
[20:59] <jussi01> Myrtti: do you think you could work the script to pull dates also?
[21:02] <Myrtti> jussi01: no.
[21:02] <jussi01> ok :)
[22:59] <elky> Pici, that scott fellow is back. just a heads up in case it spills to #u again