[00:12] <Quintasan> Riddell: added my report of state of webkitkde but it will need more testing
[00:12] <Quintasan> I checked most "web 2.0" sites
[00:13] <Quintasan> as well as regular sites like blogs etc.
[00:20] <shtylman> ScottK: in not finding that on the website...
[00:23] <Riddell> Quintasan: what do you need my guidance on?
[00:24] <shtylman> life
[00:24] <shtylman> we are lost without you.. fearless leader :)
[00:24] <Quintasan> lol
[00:25] <Riddell> oh that's easy. get into free software, Quakerism and canoeing.  you can't go wrong.
[00:25] <shtylman> hahha
[00:25] <shtylman> step 4: profit
[00:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: oh that was just and example :P
[00:26] <Quintasan> well if it's not Riddell who get's asked about many things everyday the who would it be ? :P
[00:27] <Riddell> Quintasan: did calibri get uploaded?
[00:27] <Quintasan> Beats me.
[00:27] <Quintasan> Lex79: ^^
[00:36] <Lex79> Quintasan: thanks :)
[00:36] <Lex79> Riddell: can you upload? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7224
[00:36] <Lex79> thanks
[00:40] <Riddell> can do
[00:41] <Riddell> s/KDE4/KDE 4/
[00:41] <Lex79> ooops
[00:41]  * Riddell removes redudant name in description
[00:42] <Lex79> thx
[00:44] <Riddell> the kcm is missing Messages.sh
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> pgquiles: Haven't seen any of that yet, personally. Would you happen to know of something that broke?
[00:45] <Lex79> we should poke agateau for that
[00:46] <pgquiles> JontheEchidna: I've backported 4:4.6.0-1ubuntu5 to Karmic and the Phonon-Xine backend no longer works due to unresolved symbols
[00:47] <Riddell> Lex79: I can e-mail him
[00:47] <pgquiles> it used to work with the backport of 4:4.6.0-1ubuntu1
[00:47] <Lex79> Riddell: ok
[00:48] <JontheEchidna> pgquiles: have a log that shows which symbol is failing to be resolved?
[00:48] <pgquiles> JontheEchidna: give me a minute to boot that computer again
[00:48] <Lex79> Riddell: for that: " debian/copyright misses Canonical Ltd  ", copyright holder is not Canonical
[00:49] <Lex79> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Colibri?content=117147
[00:49] <Lex79> " Colibri contains code I wrote for Canonical, but it is not a Canonical product. "
[00:50] <Riddell> "code I wrote for Canonical" means it's copyright Canonical for aurelian, the file headers confirm this
[00:51] <Lex79> ok
[00:52] <pgquiles> JontheEchidna: kcmshell4: symbol lookup error: usr/lib/qt4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined symbol: _ZN9QHashData13detach_helperEPFvPNS_4NodeEPvEPFvS1_Ei
[00:53] <JontheEchidna> Looks like something was built against Qt 4.6 beta
[00:53] <JontheEchidna> there was a binary incompatible change between 4.6 beta and 4.6 RC1 in QHashData
[00:54] <JontheEchidna> QMap too, I think.
[00:55] <pgquiles> JontheEchidna: yes, thiago blogged about that
[00:55] <pgquiles> JontheEchidna: I think the problem is phonon-backends 4:4.3.1-5ubuntu3~karmic1~ppa1
[00:55] <pgquiles> I'm getting it from some kubuntu PPA, I think
[00:55] <pgquiles> let me check
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> ah, probably kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> which I think had 4.6 beta
[00:56] <pgquiles> yes
[00:56] <pgquiles> that's the problem
[00:57] <pgquiles> 4.6.0 rc1
[00:57] <pgquiles> but looking at the publishing dates, that phonon-backends package was built against tp1
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> I think there's a newer version in kubuntu-ppa/beta for the KDE SC 4.4
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> I'll just delete that one in experimental
[01:00] <pgquiles> JontheEchidna: there's phonon backends 4.3.80 for KDE 4.4 but that's too big of a change for now for production :-)
[01:00] <pgquiles> I'm going to rebuild phonon backends 4.3.1-5ubuntu3~karmic1~ppa1 in my PPA against 4.6.0 final
[01:01] <shtylman> what do you guys do when you need to make a patch against an image file? does that patch still go in the debian patches folder?
[01:02] <JontheEchidna> you could repack the tarball with the new image included
[01:02] <shtylman> heh
[01:02] <shtylman> so no patch solution for images :)
[01:03] <JontheEchidna> right, there's not really a way for binary file patching
[01:04] <shtylman> woa... I just tried to do debuild in something that I am tracking with git... I don't think it liked it...
[01:04] <shtylman> dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to kdebase-workspace-4.3.2/.git/objects/7c/b7134bd1dd97c682279cbae987f1cf114b03a5: binary file contents changed
[01:05] <pgquiles> shtylman: debuild -S -sa -I.git -i.git and forget about the .orig.tar.gz, it makes no sense for a moving target
[01:05] <shtylman> thanks
[01:07] <shtylman> dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to kdebase-workspace-4.3.2/plasma/applets/battery/battery-oxygen.svgz: binary file contents changed
[01:07] <shtylman> and I don't want a source only build
[01:07] <shtylman> :)
[01:09] <pgquiles> steveire: rm kdebase-workspace_4.3.2.orig.tar.gz
[01:09] <pgquiles> err
[01:09] <pgquiles> shtylman:
[01:09] <shtylman> will do
[01:09] <shtylman> hehe
[01:09] <shtylman> pgquiles: thanks... that seems to have done it :)
[01:09] <pgquiles> that way you'll get a single kdebase-workspace_4.3.2.tar.gz which includes the .orig.tar.gz and the .diff.gz
[01:10] <shtylman> just trying to make a new version of workspace with my battery icon patch
[01:14] <shtylman> so do we know if we keep the kde source (wth debian folder) somewhere in version control?
[01:14] <pgquiles> shtylman: AFAIK the KDE source is not under revision control but the debian folder is
[01:15] <shtylman> yea...I found the debian folder
[01:15] <shtylman> would be nice to have the kde stuff under version control then I can just commit on top and keep rebasing
[01:15] <shtylman> without making patches
[01:17] <pgquiles> shtylman: svn.kde.org is your friend
[01:18] <shtylman> indeed it is... I already have the trunk checked out
[01:18] <shtylman> but I also like to make packages for cleaner install
[01:19] <pgquiles> shtylman: take the would-be KDE 4.4 packages from kubuntu-ppa
[01:19] <pgquiles> it's 4.3.85 IIRC
[03:20] <ScottK> shtylman: It may not have been imported yet.
[03:20] <shtylman> k
[03:21] <dhillon-v10> bddebian, hi :D
[03:21] <bddebian> Hello dhillon-v10
[03:22] <dhillon-v10> bddebian, how are you, and how was Christmas
[03:22] <bddebian> OK thanks.  Christmas was good thanks.  You?
[03:23] <dhillon-v10> bddebian, pretty good slept a lot
[03:24] <dhillon-v10> bddebian, i am making a ppa and the .deb files are like 2.4 kbs, while the orig is like 43 mgs. why would that be, here's my directory structure:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/347784/
[03:25] <bddebian> The debs are empty?
[03:29] <dhillon-v10> yah, why is that happening, could it be because of debian/rules file
[03:34] <dhillon-v10> bddebian, are you there ?
[03:40] <ScottK> dhillon-v10: That's really off topic for this channel.  Please take the conversation elsewhere.
[03:41] <dhillon-v10> ScottK, okay
[03:45] <shtylman> so I patched the battery icon a bit
[03:45] <shtylman> http://apt.shtylman.com/stuff/battery.png
[03:45] <shtylman> changed the color for ciritical battery level
[03:46] <shtylman> and turned it sideways
[03:46] <shtylman> I think the sideways looks a bit better
[03:46] <ScottK> Is it only sideways when it's critical?
[03:46] <shtylman> haha no
[03:46] <shtylman> that would be funny
[03:46] <shtylman> its always sideways
[03:47] <shtylman> I just took a screencap of the critical level :)
[03:47] <shtylman> I think it works better in a bar orientation like that... but im still playing with it
[03:47] <shtylman> I also changed how it displays the various power levels
[03:47] <shtylman> so it gives you more granularity
[03:47] <shtylman> versus the segmented bar thing it has now
[03:47] <shtylman> with just 4 power bars
[03:50] <shtylman> mine has 10 levels
[03:50] <shtylman> and they arn't broken up
[03:50] <shtylman> so it looks more continuous
[04:46] <shtylman> anyone know how to clear the plasma icon cache?
[04:50] <ScottK> shtylman: Maybe rm -f ~/.kde/cache-*/kpc/plasma* (untested, so beware)
[04:52] <shtylman> yea
[04:52] <shtylman> I did that
[04:52] <shtylman> I need to refresh my desktop somehow
[04:52] <shtylman> that works for new plasmoids I start
[04:52] <shtylman> but not for ones I have
[04:55]  * shtylman is very pleased with his new battery :)
[04:55] <shtylman> icon looks much prettier now
[04:56] <shtylman> http://apt.shtylman.com/stuff/battery2.png
[05:58] <shtylman> nixternal: kubuntu slideshow has been merged into trunk
[05:58] <shtylman> now to wait for packages to be approved
[08:36] <ghostcube> ehlo :)
[08:52] <ghostcube> anyone using TB 3.0 and is missing xpunge ?
[08:52] <ghostcube> the dev from project gave me the info 0.40 for TB 3.0 is online
[08:52] <ghostcube> on his webpage
[12:04] <freeflying> ghostcube: TB? thunderbird?
[12:05] <ghostcube> yeah
[12:05] <freeflying> ghostcube: then suppose most of us here are using kmail
[12:05] <freeflying> ghostcube: wrong channel for you :)
[12:06] <ulysses__> ;)
[12:06] <ghostcube> nah :) just an suggestion
[12:07] <ghostcube> heh
[14:39] <hunger> When will nepomuk finally work in kubuntu? The virtuozzo backend thing should solve the java issues, doesn't it?
[14:42] <Riddell> we need an FAQ about this
[14:42] <maco> hehehe
[14:42] <Riddell> hunger: we're waiting on a new virtuoso release, the current one doesn't work with nepomuk
[14:42] <hunger> Oh, great:-(
[14:43] <hunger> Is it easy to move the existing nepomuk db to virtuozzo?
[14:43]  * hunger is using some sesame backend right now or something.
[14:43] <Riddell> I don't know
[14:43] <hunger> Too bad.
[14:43] <Riddell> I expect it's done magically, it was with the move to soprano
[14:44] <hunger> That would be great. Well, I'll just wait and see.
[14:44] <hunger> Sorry for repeating a question.
[14:49] <jtechidna> our sesame backend doesn't work at the moment. might be too old since it's in a separate package
[14:50] <hunger> JontheEchidna: I have that on one of my boxes only and use that one rarely. Haven't even noticed it to be broken yet.
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> with kde 4.4?
[14:51] <JontheEchidna> oh, I probably haven't set up that java symlink business
[14:56] <JontheEchidna> no luck, can't get it to work here
[15:01] <hunger> JontheEchidna: I am not sure whether it (still) works for me. It did a while back, but I hardly ever use nepomuk, so it might be broken for me too.
[15:02] <hunger> JontheEchidna: Can't get to the machine right now... christmas vacation ... so I can not check.
[15:28] <DaskrEEch> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508048#104
[15:31] <JontheEchidna> hmm.. I wonder what/where that tiny KDE patch is
[15:52] <nixternal> ScottK: setting up the server now
[15:59] <DaskrEEch> JontheEchidna: That would be on trueg's part I suspect
[16:50] <DaskrEEch> Very unfond of Notifications on Kubuntu currently
[17:04] <jussi01> DaskrEEch: +1 (and that might just annoy you some more :P)
[17:33]  * DaskrEEch expected that from eviljussi01 
[17:36] <jussi01> DaskrEEch: naah, eviljussi01 is only evil cause he uses irssi
[17:40] <nixternal> this mac will not boot off of any ppc iso I throw at it...trying USB stick now, but I doubt that will work...usb-creator !work
[18:15] <ScottK> nixternal: I doubt Lucid will work for install/boot, but I think Jaunty or Karmic should be OKish.
[18:19] <ghostcube> on G4 with rage 128 none of all boots so far on ppc ... i need to get another radeon mac edition somewhere
[18:19] <ghostcube> *G3
[18:25] <nixternal> trying jaunty, as the karmic image is to big
[18:25] <nixternal> and this thing only has a cdrom
[18:25] <nixternal> booyah!
[18:25] <Tm_T> nixternal: you can overburn it
[18:25] <nixternal> I had to burn with windows 7
[18:25] <nixternal> Tm_T: to big for overburn
[18:25] <Tm_T> nixternal: oh? karmic ppc image?
[18:26] <nixternal> yup
[18:26] <Tm_T> hmh, what did I burn then...
[18:26] <Tm_T> can't remember, cannot check, sorry
[18:26] <nixternal> ppc d-i has a red background...I thought something was broke
[19:46] <Quintasan> DAMN
[19:46] <Riddell> uh oh
[19:46] <Tm_T> Quintasan: no, it's seele
[19:47] <Quintasan> wait, what?
[19:47]  * Quintasan is pissed at Ubuntu for failing to find his external HDD
[19:47] <Quintasan> [85176.234451] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 8
[19:47] <Quintasan> :/
[19:47] <Tm_T> that's not nice
[20:03] <DaskrEEch> Probably shouldn't keep /home on an external device
[20:07] <jjesse> thats a bad thing
[20:07] <Quintasan> DaskrEEch: you do that?
[20:08]  * jussi01 is annoyed at ubuntu for breaking his TV card driver... had to go back to the previous kernel iteration
[20:08] <DaskrEEch> Other than having your groove session for work missing I'm trying to figure out why not finding a device would raise ire levels to pissed
[20:40] <DaskrEEch> JontheEchidna: no one seems to know I"mma mail the dude and find out
[23:00] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_container.so
[23:00] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_container.so lucid
[23:00] <DaskrEEch> Kopete seems to slowly eat a lot of memory
[23:17] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: are you using two screen setup?
[23:17] <JontheEchidna> nope
[23:19] <Quintasan> LOL
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> ?
[23:19] <Quintasan> Michał Zając (Quintasan), Michał Zając (lrzgranados) is now following you on Twitter
[23:19] <Quintasan> 8D
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> heh
[23:20] <Quintasan> I was like "Lol how can I follow myself on Twitter?"
[23:24] <DaskrEEch> Quintasan: what you should do is get a script that reposts things that you are said to you on twitter then post one that says @quintasan Go!
[23:26] <Quintasan> That would grant me an insta-perma-ban on Twitter probably :P
[23:26]  * Quintasan is struck by banhammer