[00:14] <slackguru> I find myself wondering, if upstart plans to replace init, why then my first process is still called init?
[00:19] <ion> If GNU ls is an implementation of ls, why is it still called ls?
[00:21] <raphael___> where's Keybuck? :-/
[00:22] <ion> My guess would be vacation.
[00:22] <raphael___> ion: do you know if there has been any work done on implementing time-based events? (to replace cron & friends)
[00:22] <ion> Not yet, there are still more important things to get done.
[00:24] <ion> States and proper fork tracking should be implemented in 0.10, time-based events at some point after it probably.
[00:24] <raphael___> I see
[00:24] <raphael___> I wonder what happened to the built-in SELinux support patch
[00:25] <slackguru> Thankkfully Slackware is not going this route and Slackware is the major distro I use.
[00:26] <ion> Good to know that Slackware still embraces obscure race conditions. :-P
[00:27] <slackguru> Actually all my event based items work marvelously. I could literally remove my laptop's hard disk if I wanted to...
[00:27] <raphael___> I wonder how long is Gentoo going to stick with their new rc script
[00:29] <slackguru> anyway, I have found some good reading about upstart, and it does appear that I can start making jobs for upstart to replace the old init scripts.
[00:32] <slackguru> Thanks ion for the link and the explanation, it was very helpful.
[00:48] <Md> is any of the grownups here up to date about the plans for network-related events?
[00:57] <JanC> raphael___: Keybuk might be on holiday, considering the time of the year  ;-)
[01:02] <raphael___> JanC: yup, ion already suggested that. It's very likely that's the reason
[01:03] <JanC> anyway, this channel is logged
[01:03] <JanC> so he might see any suggestions
[01:12] <ion> If you want to reach him, send an email. Who reads days worth of IRC logs just in case someone had something to say to him? :-P
[12:49] <birdman> hi
[12:49] <birdman> i have problems with init scripts on ubuntu 9.10
[12:50] <birdman> none of scripts from init.d were launched on boot up
[12:50] <birdman> any advise ?
[21:33] <ShaunR> i got a weird issue, i'm running ubuntu 9.10 on a Xen Guest.  The console doesnt come up.  I created /etc/event.d/hvc0 but on boot it doesnt seam to start.  If i ssh into the server and run start hvc0 the console starts and works, but for some reason on boot it wont.