=== kb is now known as Guest50794 [00:02] mmhh [00:02] i'm on IRSSI [00:02] something forced me to do a full upgrade :P [00:02] no graphics, no mouse, anything [00:03] i'm doing the upgrade :) [00:04] exit [00:04] I can't believe Amarok. I ask it to reorder the way it displays my albums and instead of just changing the screen, it's moving them all on my hard drive! [00:06] then you don't try the "kill" command, it's not safe for you... O:) [00:08] Even worse, it's left the album art behind. All the more strange as it recognises and displays it normally. [00:09] Toast: just where did you set it? [00:09] it's even possible for Amarok to move files around instead of sorting? @_@ [00:09] I used organise files. Really the clue is in the name I suppose, but it's late! === kb is now known as Guest66339 [00:11] amarok is taking centuries in to compile [00:12] ok everything got fucked up :P [00:12] now i REALLY need to format eheh [00:13] thanks abyway, i appreciate your help [00:13] lol [00:13] np np [00:13] gomox i am trying to build an amarok package really for karmic [00:13] i'll use it :P [00:14] check my PPA in the near time [00:15] if i install the new kde 4.3.4 [00:15] i'll get the same problems of this time? [00:15] (if i try to install new amarok) [00:15] I do not think so, gimox [00:15] ok then... [00:15] let's install [00:16] mmh [00:16] I see you are good with the package manager [00:16] lol [00:16] mmh i need to backup some minor stuff [00:16] I had noticed apt was rolling through the apt-get update much faster ... now I know why! It's parallelized now :O [00:17] but pratically i haven't a DE [00:17] is it good to install gnome or similar? [00:17] dwidmann: in which apt version? [00:17] gimox: I recommend trying fluxbox or enlightenment in the meantime, they're bulletproof [00:17] EagleScreen: karmic's [00:18] gimox: install KDE 4.3.4 [00:18] i've already installed kde 4.3.4 [00:18] and everything got fucked :P [00:18] i think you installed 4.3.85 [00:18] hum [00:18] gimox: Please mind your language here. [00:18] 4.3.84 = 4.4 beta2 [00:19] yeah you're right [00:19] if you want an alternative DE, try out icewm and xfce [00:19] they are lightweight [00:20] gimox: downgrading from 4.4beta2 to 4.3.4 won't be the most easy or sane thing to do. With your god-like connection it might be faster to re-install, then upgrade to the current karmic-updates and karmic-backports. [00:21] for me it's not a problem to do a clean install [00:21] be carefull with backport, they usually break systems [00:21] i got an official kubuntu 9.10 disc [00:21] i just need to backup some files [00:21] then format [00:21] EagleScreen: that's a bit harsh, I wouldn't say they usually do it ... but they sometimes do eh? [00:21] so i was asking for a temporaney DE [00:22] gimox: and you got 4 excellent recommendations for that :) [00:22] yes :) i've installed icewm [00:22] now i just need to reboot [00:22] i have set to hide menu bar in dolphin accidently, how to bring it back [00:22] or not? [00:22] okay, they sometimes do it [00:22] the_cyber_guy: ctrl+m maybe? [00:22] you do not need to reboot to use icewm [00:22] mmh [00:22] how can i run it? [00:23] juts close KDE session, choose icewm session in kdm and login [00:23] i can't even reach the login panel [00:23] dwidmann: it worked, thanx :-) [00:24] gimox: you have a problem [00:24] yeah i've noticed :P [00:24] gimox: sudo service kdm stop [00:25] a problem with a solution, but may be a few hard for you [00:25] then you'll want to run something like starticewm ... assuming that's what they call it [00:26] ok new amarok is uploading to my ppa, now we will see if it build correctly === kb is now known as Guest97703 [00:26] Hello, I'm trying to save my twinview settings from the Nvidia control program, but the program says it can't parse /etc/X11/xorg.conf. The file exists and I've opened the permissions up. What else can I try? [00:27] dthacker: what Kubuntu version? [00:27] EagleScreen: 9.10 [00:27] 9.10 haven't got xorg.conf unless third party tools have created it [00:28] dthacker: try moving the xorg.conf file so nvidia-settings can recreate it [00:29] dthacker: consider asking in #ubuntu-x [00:29] also be sure to run nvidia-settings with root privileges (kdesudo) [00:30] dwidmann: ok. let's see..... [00:31] dwidmann: is kdesudo in the menus somewhere or should I pop open a terminal and run it from there? [00:31] dthacker: alt+f2 - kdesudo nvidia-settings [00:33] Hmm, off topic, what would be really nice would be if we could right click on arbitrary menu items and have an option "run as superuser" .... [00:33] dwidmann: +1 [00:34] okay [00:34] amarok compiled for karmic! [00:34] EagleScreen: no dependency on 4.4beta2? [00:35] not really [00:35] (i think) [00:36] now restarting X to see if Twinview stays this time [00:36] in some minutes you can try it out in my PPA [00:36] brb [00:36] it is currently building there [00:36] Hmm, might be worth downgrading KDE for, maybe. === kb is now known as Guest3888 [00:38] good afternoon === Administrator is now known as Guest3712 === Guest3712 is now known as Teogin [00:40] Hi. [00:40] Is there anybody here? [00:41] kinda sortra [00:41] **sorta [00:41] I do not know what sorta is but... [00:42] I 'm looking for a solution for my system. [00:42] I am a newbie in Linux world. [00:42] I used to be an Amiga fun in the past , [00:43] then I got a PC and now I would like to join you. [00:43] Well, what sort of solution do you need? [00:43] I 'm watching Kubuntu since its 6.06 version. [00:44] I try to install 9.10. [00:44] But as a lot of people cannot get into desktop [00:44] because [00:44] I am "Out of range" victim [00:44] Running amarok 2.2.1.90 in Kubuntu karmic + KDE 4.3.4 [00:45] Teogin: which graphics card? [00:45] It asks for 93KHz-58Hz. [00:45] Oh, I use ASUS NVIDIA 7600GS [00:46] My monitor is a LG FLATRON L1915S which doesn't have a digital input. [00:46] Just the old classic VGA input. [00:46] Teogin: after install, if you boot with the alternate option (recovery mode, or something like that maybe), [00:47] I 've already tried to do it, but... [00:47] I didn't manage to do it. [00:47] And I just wonder why? [00:47] Teogin: did you get any text when you tried? [00:47] Teogin: or just nothing? [00:48] because if you do that, drop to a root shell, and install the nvidia driver you may be okay [00:48] I always considered Linux as the choice of making an OLD PC alive and now I have a good PC and I 'm thinking of changing... [00:48] monitor. [00:48] This is absolutely a Microsoft Windows symptom. [00:49] Not a Linux one. [00:49] Well I didn't have any text. [00:49] Bear in mind that Linux is continually pushing forward also ... it can't afford to be lost in the past either [00:50] but I tried to follow a piece of advice [00:50] to nano grub and add some commands... [00:50] in order to see text and to change the resolution. [00:51] I saw the text but the resolution is unchangeable. [00:51] I would try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 [00:51] Someone says that maybe I have to use an adaptor DVI 2 VGA [00:52] and then it will operate, but I must find the opportunity to get one, as I 'm not sure that it will work. [00:53] dwidmann would you think it would be helpful? [00:53] And if yes is this the exact way I have to enter? [00:54] right [00:54] sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 [00:54] dwidmann: thanks for your help. Problem solved [00:54] dthacker: thought so [00:54] do I need to do anything else? [00:54] Teogin: afterwords you'll also want to run sudo nvidia-xconfig [00:55] Thank you my friends. [00:55] I will try to do it. [00:55] And sth more. [00:56] Is there any book or ebook for kubuntu? [00:59] Teogin: what sort of book? [00:59] A book for Kubuntu newcomers...? [01:03] Forgive me for a while! [01:03] I 'll try to do what you told me to do. [01:14] Anybody know why my Kubuntu laptop will randomly give me problems with connecting through a samba share? I didnt have this problem with ubuntu that I recall, but ever since I switched to Kubuntu I have mixed results in when it works and when it doesnt. It's very random, and changes unprompted. Any idea? [01:23] !netsplit [01:23] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === flo is now known as greatgib [01:41] Hi, I need to password protect my pictures folders, the way that seems to make the most sense to me, since I dont have a clue what app would work well for this in a kde 4.3 environment, would to make a normal user and give a specific password there [01:41] since I do not want to have root access only to these folders [01:42] * cjae scratches head [01:42] would the system even prompt for a password from a non elevated user [01:42] i'm back :P [01:43] and then I have the issue of my pictures manager displaying these pics anyway [01:44] and if it set the folders/pic managers to root access only then I would have to run the apps as root right? [01:44] any suggestions [01:46] !netsplit [01:46] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [01:50] Does anyone have any idea how running kubuntu-netbook will compare to running ubuntu netbook remix on a Dell A90 (Mini 9)? [01:50] In terms of battery life mainly. [01:52] thebobert: it depends on the battery... u can make the battery last longer if u turn down the brightness of the lcd and turn off kwin effects, and turn off one core [01:53] is there a score rating of users of irc? [01:53] hi there! [01:53] * cjae wonders if has a bad score [01:53] how can i upgrae amarok to the version that support transfer to my mp3 player? [01:54] gimox: i believe its a plugin try findin it on the repos... search for amarok [01:55] Apparently UNR is compiled for LPIA arch, and kubuntu-netbook is compiled for i386... is that going to impact my performance? (I am not familiar with LPIA) [01:55] thebobert: its the same almost... [01:57] thebobert: if u want performance of a computer and battery life time u can switch to xfce4 [01:57] great. the docs on kubuntu-netbook seem to imply some items are rather unstable, do you have any clue how unstable? (I have been using Linux for 15 years, so I am used working around some issues.) [01:58] thebobert: well i dont think its even at alpha stage yet [01:59] nonameNN: do you think this will be good to upgrade amarok? https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive/ppa [01:59] ok, good to know. [01:59] thank you guys for the help. [01:59] gimox: u can also upgrade kde... and all its apps at once search for kubuntu ppa on google [02:00] i don't want to upgrade kde to an alpha version [02:00] just amarok :) [02:01] gimox: lastest stable version of kde is 4.3.4 kubuntu has 4.3.2 [02:01] is there an option to use openbox or fluxbox (or similar) as the primary wm? [02:01] humm [02:01] thebobert: yeah... just search for them on synaptic [02:01] why kubuntu devs are so late? [02:01] gimox: they aint... we also have 4.4 on beta ppa [02:01] nonameNN: great, thanks for the help [02:02] gimox: they just dont want to upgrade packages that already work ok... but u can find the ppa repositories [02:02] got it [02:03] is it safe to upgrade to 4.4? [02:03] Anybody know why my Kubuntu laptop will randomly give me problems with connecting through a samba share? I didnt have this problem with ubuntu that I recall, but ever since I switched to Kubuntu I have mixed results in when it works and when it doesnt. It's very random, and changes unprompted. Any idea? [02:04] gimox: that would not be a good idea... its still in beta... [02:24] is device support for amarok been removed? === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan === roy__ is now known as schestowitz === brother is now known as Duntu [02:53] yah a split === jon is now known as Guest9655 === Guest9655 is now known as jonf [03:20] Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the [03:20] individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts? === jon is now known as Guest7281 === Guest7281 is now known as jonf [03:26] Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the [03:26] individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts? === fernando is now known as Guest40383 [03:27] hello, I have a question about a dual display problem, related to desktop geometry, can anyone help? [03:28] Guest40383: ask the question. === felipe__ is now known as cavJedi [03:29] ok, so I have set up the NVidia driver to do "separate X displays", so I have a regular CRT monitor and my LCD TV showing two desktops [03:29] Hi, whats up with the old kde 3.5 login manager in kubuntu 9.10 and when I have a theme installed what do I need to do make it not blue for a second before kdm prompts [03:29] they have different resolutions: 1024x768 on the CRT and 1080p on the LCD [03:30] I thought Ihad to change the back ground color but it wont let me [03:30] the problem is that the CRT display thinks the desktop is of the size of that in the LCD [03:30] so I get windows placed outside the display, and when I maximize a window they are bigger than the screen [03:31] any ideas? [03:31] !loginmanager [03:31] !login manager [03:31] !kdm [03:31] Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the [03:31] individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts? [03:31] !info kdm [03:31] kdm (source: kdebase-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu7.1 (karmic), package size 1747 kB, installed size 4064 kB [03:35] There's no sound in flash videos on my pc. [03:35] What can I do to fix it? [03:36] colton_: I have a similar problem. No sound in flash videos, but I can play sound files through banshee or vlc [03:38] jonf: So, are you able to play youtube videos through banshee? [03:39] colton_: I didn't know that you could play them in banshee. So far, I can play mp3 and flac files, and the startup and shutdown sounds play in kde. But I have no sound in flash videos [03:40] That's very frustrating [03:40] I think I'm going to switch to ubuntu. [03:41] colton_: well surely somebody here knows the answer. [03:43] Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the [03:43] individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts? [03:43] why doesnt kgpg not start from my k menu or prompt for root password [03:43] -not [03:45] hi [03:47] !netsplit [03:47] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [03:50] !kgpg [03:50] !info kgpg [03:50] kgpg (source: kdeutils): encryption utility for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 897 kB, installed size 2012 kB [03:54] anyone knows where to find information about multiple displays of different resolution? I'm getting the wrong desktop geometry in the smallest of them [04:03] have you looked at your graphic card website.. ati/nvidia etc. [04:06] anyone know why kgpg wont start [04:06] Duntu: yes, but found nothing relevant. I think this is a kdm problem really [04:07] Duntu: both displays report the correct resolution, the problem is either the display manager or the window manager it seems [04:07] Duntu: interestingly enough, the task bar is located in the right position and has the right size [04:08] Duntu: but when I try to mazimize windows, their size is set to 1920x1080 [04:09] Can I know the bash shell script which checks if the name of particular file is same as it's parent folder name ? [04:10] sravan: what are you trying to do? [04:12] hmm....I wana remove Viruses of windows which have created all .exe files inside every folder [04:13] could someone at least let me know if they are using kgpg and it works on 9.10 [04:15] !netsplit [04:15] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [04:23] Guest3888, : I wanted to make sure that I dont remove all ".exe" files in turn which might even have some neccessary files [04:36] #maemoooo [04:38] hello everybody === walid is now known as walider [04:40] Hey guys - Any Kubuntu + Samba users here? I'm wondering if anybody has used Dolphin vs SMB4k extensively enough to give me their opinion as to whether or not one owrks better than the other. === enkrypt is now known as Enk [04:46] Ubuntu Firefox problem. Installed zentec (SP?) for Firefox and blogging. Firefox won't start now - other web browsers will not install. Suggestions to repair Firefox? [04:49] Enk: there should be a hidden directory called .firefox or .mozilla.. rename it to .mozilla.backup or .firefox.backup and then restart or start firefox.. [04:49] Enk: it's in your /home directory [04:56] that worked! thank you! [04:59] Just wondering, is it 'normal' for quassel's sqlite db to be in the range of 150mb? Not that it's a problem but I assume that's logs? [05:16] What is an easily configured ftp program for kubuntu? [05:18] ner0x: dolphin === wsr3193 is now known as raghorn [06:06] is Karmic Koala the best name for Kubuntu?? [06:06] K?? [06:07] ok so I managed to open kgpg as root first I guess and the file home/buddy/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc cannot be written to [06:07] how do I make it my user again [06:08] sudo chown cjae:cjae [06:08] cjae: chown buddy:users /home/buddy/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc [06:09] WoofWoof!! [06:09] that ~/ should be /home/cjae mofa [06:09] Puppy Linux!! [06:10] lol [06:10] I am trying to help someone on the phone, confused o_0 [06:11] -.O? [06:11] so sudo chown cjae:users [06:11] cjae: yes [06:11] thanks [06:12] what is the new version of KDE SC? [06:12] ArmandiuxGS: KDE SC 4.4 Beta 1 [06:13] OMG! [06:14] mofa: my Kubuntu have the SC 4.3.2... it normall? [06:14] ArmandiuxGX: yes [06:15] SC 4.4.1 is coming soon on Kubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?? (or what) [06:17] ArmandiuxGS: i think so. whenever KDE officially releases 4.4 [06:18] Does anyone know how PulseAudio/ALSA is supposed to work in Kubuntu 9.10? vlc, Flash plugin, and aplay stopped making sounds (through ALSA <-> PulseAudio PCM I/O Plugin?) on my PC a few days ago but Amarok and KDE system sounds (through Phonon -> Xine?) [06:19] I mean, Amarok and KDE system sounds play fine [06:21] i had a similar problem and found that some bars in the mixer were turned too low [06:23] also i had to install a pulseaudio package even though pulseaudio was already showing up in multimedia settings [06:24] i dont have sound in Konqueror for Flash Plugin [06:24] maybe PulseAudio === jesse is now known as Guest73079 [06:26] ghale, thanks. Alsamixer seems OK and if I tell it aplay to my sound card or built-in audio, it plays fine. It's the ALSA <-> PulseAudio part that messes up. [06:26] is Pulse Audio already insatlled on Kubuntu, same of Ubuntu? [06:27] ghale, I mean something like `aplay -D 'front:CARD=Audigy2,DEV=0' /usr/share/sounds/k3b_success1.wav` works, but not if I let alsa do its default PulseAudio thingy. [06:28] hmm, i'm not sure about that [06:29] ArmandiuxGS that's a good question! At some point while getting Firefox and vlc running (they don't use Phonon), PulseAudio was on my system. [06:30] Maybe I just have to figure out how to tell the upper ALSA layer to not use PulseAudio. What's odd is that it worked for months on 9.04 and 9.10, then somehow broke 4 days ago. [06:33] ok so I right click a folder and select archive and encrypt then at prompt I select symmetrical encryption and no ascii, kgpg/gpg asks for password it give it twice [06:33] Hmmm, maybe the steps in http://www.diederickdevries.net/blog/?p=104 [06:33] how come it doesnt ask for a password when I select the folder again [06:35] any thoughts === jesse is now known as Guest37627 === reefy is now known as Reefy [06:51] cjae: the archive might be encrypted, but i dont believe the original files would be [06:52] mofa: so now what would be the point of that [06:53] I am trying password protect a folder [06:53] cjae: doing it that way, the point would be to make the encrypted archive, then delete the original files ... [06:54] cjae: that would be very cumbersome though, there are better ways to do this [06:54] cjae: truecrypt is a pretty good option [06:54] dwidmann: i'd be curious to know how to do this myself [06:55] http://www.truecrypt.org/ [06:58] With it you can create an encrypted container ... this container will have a filesystem of its own, only accessible after you punch in your password of course [06:58] the solution i've found is to just insert a . before the folder name, to make it invisible unless you know the exact name. works for me [06:58] of course my solution isn't very secure... [06:59] that just hides it ... and in any file manager you can just select "view hidden files" and there it is ... [07:00] mhmm. no one i know understands how to work this computer though :P [07:06] skierpage, cjae: in my case, alsamixe have to default the pcm volume to "0". [07:06] *alsamixer [07:07] skierpage: just remove PA if you don't need or use it [07:08] otherwise you should configure Phonon to prefer it instead of your ALSA hw:0,0 [07:08] (or whichever hw device you have set) [07:31] mofa: yah hiiden folders wont cut it [07:32] cjae: truecrypt looks like a good solution [07:40] my problem is the even if I delete the originals with kgpg when I click the .gpg file or folder it doesn't sk for a password [07:40] ask === kb is now known as Guest85471 [07:42] does anyone know why global shortcuts such as Ctrl+1 don't work using the right hand side numeric keypad on numlock? [07:42] suekhim: I think those are considered as different buttons [07:42] Tm_T: is there a workaround? i set the shortcuts using the right hand side keypad but after it's set they don't work [07:43] Hello people, do anyone use JDownloader? I have troubles with it. [07:43] suekhim: hmm, don't know, sorry [07:43] Tm_T: thanks anyway [07:46] Concerning, when I open it's executable, jdownloader.jar with Kwin goes insane. Everything blinks, distortions are all around the screen and so on. [07:46] when i close the lid on my laptop nothing happens :( it's set to suspend to RAM. any ideas? [07:46] Sorry, I meant "with OpenJDK". [07:48] Anybody? === kb is now known as Guest46994 [07:50] suekhim: try to change the shortcuts ... when you do, make use of the numpad numbers instead of hte other numbers [07:51] dwidmann: thanks -- i did just that, actually, but it didn't work [07:51] dwidmann: perhaps it is a problem with my make of keyboard [07:51] suekhim: I doubt it [07:51] dwidmann: sigh .. me too [07:51] dwidmann: but it's so much easier to swap out the keyboard [07:53] paulsomebody: try with sun's jre? [07:54] dwidmann: What packages names are? Or just search 'jre'? [07:54] paulsomebody_: sun-java6-jre [07:55] dwidmann: Trying to. [07:55] paulsomebody_: then you need to select which jre to use with sudo update-java-alternatives [07:56] dwidmann: I selected them to be installed, but now KPackageKit refuses to work argumenting that with broken dependencies. [07:56] dwidmann: Aptitude suggests removing something. [07:56] paulsomebody_: something like? === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [07:57] dwidmann: sun-java6-fonts and plugins. [07:57] odd [07:58] dwidmann: Could open java installed be the source of the problems? [07:58] paulsomebody_: dunno, try letting it remove fonts and plugins and see what happens [07:58] paulsomebody_: worst case you can always reinstall those [07:59] dwidmann: I know. It seems it auto-updated alternatives list. [08:00] ciao [08:00] list [08:00] dwidmann: It uninstalled also all sun-java packages. [08:00] dwidmann: What the ... is goning? [08:01] dwidmann: "Unneeded dependencies", were they. [08:02] paulsomebody_: weird ... (for the record, I swear by apt-get ... it's less prone to doing weird things) [08:03] dwidmann: Okay, I'll remember. [08:04] dwidmann: At the homepage they state it needs Java Runtime Environment 1.5 or higher. [08:05] paulsomebody_: yeah ... you've got that (or you did before it got removed) [08:05] dwidmann: I see. Any suggestions now? [08:06] paulsomebody_: try again at installing sun-java6-jre, make sure it's set for use, and try the program out? [08:09] dwidmann: I have run "sudo update-jave-alternatives", output was: http://pastebin.ca/1730417 [08:09] Is this okay? [08:09] paulsomebody_: well, you'll need to do a bit more than that actually, it's just displaying the usage information for you [08:10] dwidmann: I see this is just syntax help. Concerning? [08:10] paulsomebody_: concerning how to set which jre will be default [08:11] dwidmann: And which should be? [08:11] paulsomebody_: so that when you , for example, type in "java someprog.jar", it will use sun-java6-jre ... without the convenient alternatives list symlink setup, you would probably have to type /usr/lib/jvm/sun-java6-jre/bin/java someprog.jar instead [08:12] paulsomebody_: so first run it with the -l switch [08:12] paulsomebody_: it will give you a list of choices, next run it with the -s switch with the one you want following the -s [08:12] dwidmann: Okay. [08:14] dwidmann: It looks like Sun's Java are not present there. There are only "java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk". [08:17] dwidmann: Ideas? [08:17] paulsomebody_: run dpkg --list | grep sun-java [08:17] paulsomebody_: if they don't say "ii" at the beginning of the line then they're not installed ... [08:17] dwidmann: Then they are not. === tkbros is now known as justwarm [08:19] hello [08:19] dwidmann: I cannot understand what is happening, I selected sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin packagesto be installed, dialog windows showed and then... Nothing happened. [08:20] dwidmann: They are still in the list of available packages, not installed. [08:23] paulsomebody_: go to terminal and run sudo apt-get install -f [08:24] paulsomebody_: theres a bug in kpackagekit [08:24] dwidmann: I see. [08:24] Make sure kpackagekit is closed before hand [08:24] dwidmann: "sudo apt-get install -f sun-java6-jre"? [08:25] Im not dwidmann... [08:25] anyway, sudo apt-get install -f [08:25] how can i install softwares on a offline pc [08:25] !offline | justwarm [08:25] justwarm: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD [08:25] * dwidmann is back [08:25] jussi01: It's quite obvious. Is package name needed? [08:26] list [08:26] paulsomebody_: no... as I said... [08:26] jussi01: Okay. [08:26] jussi01: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." [08:27] thank you.but is there another way to install softwares execpt apton cd. [08:27] jussi01: This is not what was expected. [08:27] paulsomebody_: ok, then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin [08:27] justwarm: have a look at that link... [08:28]