[00:02] <gimox> mmhh
[00:02] <gimox> i'm on IRSSI
[00:02] <gimox> something forced me to do a full upgrade :P
[00:02] <gimox> no graphics, no mouse, anything
[00:03] <gimox> i'm doing the upgrade :)
[00:04] <gimox> exit
[00:04] <Toast> I can't believe Amarok. I ask it to reorder the way it displays my albums and instead of just changing the screen, it's moving them all on my hard drive!
[00:06] <ToxinPowe> then you don't try the "kill" command, it's not safe for you... O:)
[00:08] <Toast> Even worse, it's left the album art behind. All the more strange as it recognises and displays it normally.
[00:09] <Quintasan> Toast: just where did you set it?
[00:09] <Quintasan> it's even possible for Amarok to move files around instead of sorting? @_@
[00:09] <Toast> I used organise files. Really the clue is in the name I suppose, but it's late!
[00:11] <EagleScreen> amarok is taking centuries in to compile
[00:12] <gimox> ok everything got fucked up :P
[00:12] <gimox> now i REALLY need to format eheh
[00:13] <gimox> thanks abyway, i appreciate your help
[00:13] <EagleScreen> lol
[00:13] <gimox> np np
[00:13] <EagleScreen> gomox i am trying to build an amarok package really for karmic
[00:13] <gimox> i'll use it :P
[00:14] <EagleScreen> check my PPA in the near time
[00:15] <gimox> if i install the new kde 4.3.4
[00:15] <gimox> i'll get the same problems of this time?
[00:15] <gimox> (if i try to install new amarok)
[00:15] <EagleScreen> I do not think so, gimox
[00:15] <gimox> ok then...
[00:15] <gimox> let's install
[00:16] <gimox> mmh
[00:16] <EagleScreen> I see you are good with the package manager
[00:16] <gimox> lol
[00:16] <gimox> mmh i need to backup some minor stuff
[00:16] <dwidmann> I had noticed apt was rolling through the apt-get update much faster ... now I know why! It's parallelized now :O
[00:17] <gimox> but pratically i haven't a DE
[00:17] <gimox> is it good to install gnome or similar?
[00:17] <EagleScreen> dwidmann: in which apt version?
[00:17] <dwidmann> gimox: I recommend trying fluxbox or enlightenment in the meantime, they're bulletproof
[00:17] <dwidmann> EagleScreen: karmic's
[00:18] <EagleScreen> gimox: install KDE 4.3.4
[00:18] <gimox> i've already installed kde 4.3.4
[00:18] <gimox> and everything got fucked :P
[00:18] <EagleScreen> i think you installed 4.3.85
[00:18] <gimox> hum
[00:18] <Pici> gimox: Please mind your language here.
[00:18] <EagleScreen> 4.3.84 = 4.4 beta2
[00:19] <gimox> yeah you're right
[00:19] <EagleScreen> if you want an alternative DE, try out icewm and xfce
[00:19] <EagleScreen> they are lightweight
[00:20] <dwidmann> gimox: downgrading from 4.4beta2 to 4.3.4 won't be the most easy or sane thing to do. With your god-like connection it might be faster to re-install, then upgrade to the current karmic-updates and karmic-backports.
[00:21] <gimox> for me it's not a problem to do a clean install
[00:21] <EagleScreen> be carefull with backport, they usually break systems
[00:21] <gimox> i got an official kubuntu 9.10 disc
[00:21] <gimox> i just need to backup some files
[00:21] <gimox> then format
[00:21] <dwidmann> EagleScreen: that's a bit harsh, I wouldn't say they usually do it ... but they sometimes do eh?
[00:21] <gimox> so i was asking for a temporaney DE
[00:22] <dwidmann> gimox: and you got 4 excellent recommendations for that :)
[00:22] <gimox> yes :) i've installed icewm
[00:22] <gimox> now i just need to reboot
[00:22] <the_cyber_guy> i have set to hide menu bar in dolphin accidently, how to bring it back
[00:22] <gimox> or not?
[00:22] <EagleScreen> okay, they sometimes do it
[00:22] <dwidmann> the_cyber_guy: ctrl+m maybe?
[00:22] <EagleScreen> you do not need to reboot to use icewm
[00:22] <gimox> mmh
[00:22] <gimox> how can i run it?
[00:23] <EagleScreen> juts close KDE session, choose icewm session in kdm and login
[00:23] <gimox> i can't even reach the login panel
[00:23] <the_cyber_guy> dwidmann: it worked, thanx :-)
[00:24] <EagleScreen> gimox: you have a problem
[00:24] <gimox> yeah i've noticed :P
[00:24] <dwidmann> gimox: sudo service kdm stop
[00:25] <EagleScreen> a problem with a solution, but may be a few hard for you
[00:25] <dwidmann> then you'll want to run something like starticewm ... assuming that's what they call it
[00:26] <EagleScreen> ok new amarok is uploading to my ppa, now we will see if it build correctly
[00:26] <dthacker> Hello, I'm trying to save my twinview settings from the Nvidia control program, but the program says it can't parse /etc/X11/xorg.conf.   The file exists and I've opened the permissions up.  What else can I try?
[00:27] <EagleScreen> dthacker: what Kubuntu version?
[00:27] <dthacker> EagleScreen: 9.10
[00:27] <EagleScreen> 9.10 haven't got xorg.conf unless third party tools have created it
[00:28] <dwidmann> dthacker: try moving the xorg.conf file so nvidia-settings can recreate it
[00:29] <EagleScreen> dthacker: consider asking in #ubuntu-x
[00:29] <dwidmann> also be sure to run nvidia-settings with root privileges (kdesudo)
[00:30] <dthacker> dwidmann: ok. let's see.....
[00:31] <dthacker> dwidmann: is kdesudo in the menus somewhere or should I pop open a terminal and run it from there?
[00:31] <dwidmann> dthacker: alt+f2  - kdesudo nvidia-settings
[00:33] <dwidmann> Hmm, off topic, what would be really nice would be if we could right click on arbitrary menu items and have an option "run as superuser" ....
[00:33] <dthacker> dwidmann: +1
[00:34] <EagleScreen> okay
[00:34] <EagleScreen> amarok compiled for karmic!
[00:34] <dwidmann> EagleScreen: no dependency on 4.4beta2?
[00:35] <EagleScreen> not really
[00:35] <EagleScreen> (i think)
[00:36] <dthacker> now restarting X to see if Twinview stays this time
[00:36] <EagleScreen> in some minutes you can try it out in my PPA
[00:36] <dthacker> brb
[00:36] <EagleScreen> it is currently building there
[00:36] <dwidmann> Hmm, might be worth downgrading KDE for, maybe.
[00:38] <Administrator> good afternoon
[00:40] <Teogin> Hi.
[00:40] <Teogin> Is there anybody here?
[00:41] <dwidmann> kinda sortra
[00:41] <dwidmann> **sorta
[00:41] <Teogin> I do not know what sorta is but...
[00:42] <Teogin> I 'm looking for a solution for my system.
[00:42] <Teogin> I am a newbie in Linux world.
[00:42] <Teogin> I used to be an Amiga fun in the past ,
[00:43] <Teogin> then I got a PC and now I would like to join you.
[00:43] <dwidmann> Well, what sort of solution do you need?
[00:43] <Teogin> I 'm watching Kubuntu since its 6.06 version.
[00:44] <Teogin> I try to install 9.10.
[00:44] <Teogin> But as a lot of people cannot get into desktop
[00:44] <Teogin> because
[00:44] <Teogin> I am "Out of range" victim
[00:44] <EagleScreen> Running amarok 2.2.1.90 in Kubuntu karmic + KDE 4.3.4
[00:45] <dwidmann> Teogin: which graphics card?
[00:45] <Teogin> It asks for 93KHz-58Hz.
[00:45] <Teogin> Oh, I use ASUS NVIDIA 7600GS
[00:46] <Teogin> My monitor is a LG FLATRON L1915S which doesn't have a digital input.
[00:46] <Teogin> Just the old classic VGA input.
[00:46] <dwidmann> Teogin: after install, if you boot with the alternate option (recovery mode, or something like that maybe),
[00:47] <Teogin> I 've already tried to do it, but...
[00:47] <Teogin> I didn't manage to do it.
[00:47] <Teogin> And I just wonder why?
[00:47] <dwidmann> Teogin: did you get any text when you tried?
[00:47] <dwidmann> Teogin: or just nothing?
[00:48] <dwidmann> because if you do that, drop to a root shell, and install the nvidia driver you may be okay
[00:48] <Teogin> I always considered Linux as the choice of making an OLD PC alive and now I have a good PC and I 'm thinking of changing...
[00:48] <Teogin> monitor.
[00:48] <Teogin> This is absolutely a Microsoft Windows symptom.
[00:49] <Teogin> Not a Linux one.
[00:49] <Teogin> Well I didn't have any text.
[00:49] <dwidmann> Bear in mind that Linux is continually pushing forward also ... it can't afford to be lost in the past either
[00:50] <Teogin> but I tried to follow a piece of advice
[00:50] <Teogin> to nano grub and add some commands...
[00:50] <Teogin> in order to see text and to change the resolution.
[00:51] <Teogin> I saw the text but the resolution is unchangeable.
[00:51] <dwidmann> I would try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[00:51] <Teogin> Someone says that maybe I have to use an adaptor DVI 2 VGA
[00:52] <Teogin> and then it will operate, but I must find the opportunity to get one, as I 'm not sure that it will work.
[00:53] <Teogin> dwidmann would you think it would be helpful?
[00:53] <Teogin> And if yes is this the exact way I have to enter?
[00:54] <dwidmann> right
[00:54] <Teogin> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[00:54] <dthacker> dwidmann: thanks for your help.  Problem solved
[00:54] <dwidmann> dthacker: thought so
[00:54] <Teogin> do I need to do anything else?
[00:54] <dwidmann> Teogin: afterwords you'll also want to run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:55] <Teogin> Thank you my friends.
[00:55] <Teogin> I will try to do it.
[00:55] <Teogin> And sth more.
[00:56] <Teogin> Is there any book or ebook for kubuntu?
[00:59] <dwidmann> Teogin: what sort of book?
[00:59] <Teogin> A book for Kubuntu newcomers...?
[01:03] <Teogin> Forgive me for a while!
[01:03] <Teogin> I 'll try to do what you told me to do.
[01:14] <Roasted_> Anybody know why my Kubuntu laptop will randomly give me problems with connecting through a samba share? I didnt have this problem with ubuntu that I recall, but ever since I switched to Kubuntu I have mixed results in when it works and when it doesnt. It's very random, and changes unprompted. Any idea?
[01:23] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:41] <cjae> Hi, I need to password protect my pictures folders, the way that seems to make the most sense to me, since I dont have a clue what app would work well for this in a kde 4.3 environment, would to make a normal user and give a specific password there
[01:41] <cjae> since I do not want to have root access only to these folders
[01:42]  * cjae scratches head
[01:42] <cjae> would the system even prompt for a password from a non elevated user
[01:42] <gimox> i'm back :P
[01:43] <cjae> and then I have the issue of my pictures manager displaying these pics anyway
[01:44] <cjae> and if it set the folders/pic managers  to root access only then I would have to run the apps as root right?
[01:44] <cjae> any suggestions
[01:46] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:50] <thebobert> Does anyone have any idea how running kubuntu-netbook will compare to running ubuntu netbook remix on a Dell A90 (Mini 9)?
[01:50] <thebobert> In terms of battery life mainly.
[01:52] <nonameNN> thebobert: it depends on the battery... u can make the battery last longer if u turn down the brightness of the lcd and turn off kwin effects, and turn off one core
[01:53] <cjae> is there a score rating of users of irc?
[01:53] <gimox> hi there!
[01:53]  * cjae wonders if has a bad score
[01:53] <gimox> how can i upgrae amarok to the version that support transfer to my mp3 player?
[01:54] <nonameNN> gimox: i believe its a plugin try findin it on the repos... search for amarok
[01:55] <thebobert> Apparently UNR is compiled for LPIA arch, and kubuntu-netbook is compiled for i386... is that going to impact my performance?  (I am not familiar with LPIA)
[01:55] <nonameNN> thebobert: its the same almost...
[01:57] <nonameNN> thebobert: if u want performance of a computer and battery life time u can switch to xfce4
[01:57] <thebobert> great.  the docs on kubuntu-netbook seem to imply some items are rather unstable, do you have any clue how unstable?  (I have been using Linux for 15 years, so I am used working around some issues.)
[01:58] <r00t_ninja> thebobert: well i dont think its even at alpha stage yet
[01:59] <gimox> nonameNN: do you think this will be good to upgrade amarok? https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive/ppa
[01:59] <thebobert> ok, good to know.
[01:59] <thebobert> thank you guys for the help.
[01:59] <nonameNN> gimox: u can also upgrade kde... and all its apps at once search for kubuntu ppa on google
[02:00] <gimox> i don't want to upgrade kde to an alpha version
[02:00] <gimox> just amarok :)
[02:01] <nonameNN> gimox: lastest stable version of kde is 4.3.4 kubuntu has 4.3.2
[02:01] <thebobert> is there an option to use openbox  or fluxbox (or similar) as the primary wm?
[02:01] <gimox> humm
[02:01] <nonameNN> thebobert: yeah... just search for them on synaptic
[02:01] <gimox> why kubuntu devs are so late?
[02:01] <nonameNN> gimox: they aint... we also have 4.4 on beta ppa
[02:01] <thebobert> nonameNN: great, thanks for the help
[02:02] <nonameNN> gimox: they just dont want to upgrade packages that already work ok... but u can find the ppa repositories
[02:02] <gimox> got it
[02:03] <gimox> is it safe to upgrade to 4.4?
[02:03] <Roasted_> Anybody know why my Kubuntu laptop will randomly give me problems with connecting through a samba share? I didnt have this problem with ubuntu that I recall, but ever since I switched to Kubuntu I have mixed results in when it works and when it doesnt. It's very random, and changes unprompted. Any idea?
[02:04] <nonameNN> gimox: that would not be a good idea... its still in beta...
[02:24] <snarkster> is device support for amarok been removed?
[02:53] <snarkster> yah a split
[03:20] <jonf> Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the
[03:20] <jonf>  individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts?
[03:26] <jonf> Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the
[03:26] <jonf>  individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts?
[03:27] <Guest40383> hello, I have a question about a dual display problem, related to desktop geometry, can anyone help?
[03:28] <r00t_ninja> Guest40383: ask the question.
[03:29] <Guest40383> ok, so I have set up the NVidia  driver to do "separate X displays", so I have a regular CRT monitor and my LCD TV showing two desktops
[03:29] <cjae> Hi, whats up with the old kde 3.5 login manager in kubuntu 9.10 and when I have a theme installed what do I need to do make it not blue for a second before kdm prompts
[03:29] <Guest40383> they have different resolutions: 1024x768 on the CRT and 1080p on the LCD
[03:30] <cjae> I thought  Ihad to change the back ground color but it wont let me
[03:30] <Guest40383> the problem is that the CRT display thinks the desktop is of the size of that in the LCD
[03:30] <Guest40383> so I get windows placed outside the display, and when I maximize a window they are bigger than the screen
[03:31] <Guest40383> any ideas?
[03:31] <cjae> !loginmanager
[03:31] <cjae> !login manager
[03:31] <cjae> !kdm
[03:31] <jonf> Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the
[03:31] <jonf>  individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts?
[03:31] <cjae> !info kdm
[03:35] <colton_> There's no sound in flash videos on my pc.
[03:35] <colton_> What can I do to fix it?
[03:36] <jonf> colton_: I have a similar problem. No sound in flash videos, but I can play sound files through banshee or vlc
[03:38] <colton_> jonf: So, are you able to play youtube videos through banshee?
[03:39] <jonf> colton_: I didn't know that you could play them in banshee. So far, I can play mp3 and flac files, and the startup and shutdown sounds play in kde. But I have no sound in flash videos
[03:40] <colton_> That's very frustrating
[03:40] <colton_> I think I'm going to switch to ubuntu.
[03:41] <jonf> colton_: well surely somebody here knows the answer.
[03:43] <jonf> Hey All! Does anybody here have any experience setting up an LVM under Kubuntu? I've created an LVM out of two hard drives, and called it Storage. The LVM tool claims that it exists at /dev/Storage/Storage, but when I try to format the logical volume from within the tool, it says that nothing exists at that path. I have confirmed through the terminal that nothing exists at that path, although I can see each of the
[03:43] <jonf>  individual drives, sda and sdb in the /dev/ folder. Any thoughts?
[03:43] <cjae> why doesnt kgpg not start from my k menu or prompt for root password
[03:43] <cjae> -not
[03:45] <user__> hi
[03:47] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[03:50] <cjae> !kgpg
[03:50] <cjae> !info kgpg
[03:54] <Guest40383> anyone knows where to find information about multiple displays of different resolution? I'm getting the wrong desktop geometry in the smallest of them
[04:03] <Duntu> have you looked at your graphic card website.. ati/nvidia etc.
[04:06] <cjae> anyone know why kgpg wont start
[04:06] <Guest40383> Duntu: yes, but found nothing relevant. I think this is a kdm problem really
[04:07] <Guest40383> Duntu: both displays report the correct resolution, the problem is either the display manager or the window manager it seems
[04:07] <Guest40383> Duntu: interestingly enough, the task bar is located in the right position and has the right size
[04:08] <Guest40383> Duntu: but when I try to mazimize windows, their size is set to 1920x1080
[04:09] <sravan> Can I know the bash shell script which checks if the name of particular file is same as it's parent folder name ?
[04:10] <Guest40383> sravan: what are you trying to do?
[04:12] <sravan> hmm....I wana remove Viruses of windows which have created all .exe files inside every folder
[04:13] <cjae> could someone at least let me know if they are using kgpg and it works on 9.10
[04:15] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:23] <sravan> Guest3888, : I wanted to make sure that I dont remove all ".exe" files in turn which might even have some neccessary files
[04:36] <kamui>     #maemoooo
[04:38] <walid> hello everybody
[04:40] <jason__> Hey guys - Any Kubuntu + Samba users here? I'm wondering if anybody has used Dolphin vs SMB4k extensively enough to give me their opinion as to whether or not one owrks better than the other.
[04:46] <Enk> Ubuntu Firefox problem.  Installed zentec (SP?) for Firefox and blogging.  Firefox won't start now - other web browsers will not install.  Suggestions to repair Firefox?
[04:49] <scunizi_> Enk: there should be a hidden directory called .firefox or .mozilla.. rename it to .mozilla.backup or .firefox.backup and then restart or start firefox..
[04:49] <scunizi_> Enk: it's in your /home directory
[04:56] <Enk> that worked!  thank you!
[04:59] <BiosElement> Just wondering, is it 'normal' for quassel's sqlite db to be in the range of 150mb? Not that it's a problem but I assume that's logs?
[05:16] <ner0x> What is an easily configured ftp program for kubuntu?
[05:18] <Fanfare> ner0x: dolphin
[06:06] <ArmandiuxGS> is Karmic Koala the best name for Kubuntu??
[06:06] <ArmandiuxGS> K??
[06:07] <cjae> ok so I managed to open kgpg as root first I guess and the file home/buddy/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc cannot be written to
[06:07] <cjae> how do I make it my user again
[06:08] <cjae> sudo chown cjae:cjae <file>
[06:08] <mofa> cjae: chown buddy:users /home/buddy/.kde/share/config/kgpgrc
[06:09] <ArmandiuxGS> WoofWoof!!
[06:09] <cjae> that ~/ should be /home/cjae mofa
[06:09] <ArmandiuxGS> Puppy Linux!!
[06:10] <ArmandiuxGS> lol
[06:10] <cjae> I am trying to help someone on the phone, confused o_0
[06:11] <ArmandiuxGS> -.O?
[06:11] <cjae> so sudo chown cjae:users <file>
[06:11] <mofa> cjae: yes
[06:11] <cjae> thanks
[06:12] <ArmandiuxGS> what is the new version of KDE SC?
[06:12] <mofa> ArmandiuxGS: KDE SC 4.4 Beta 1
[06:13] <ArmandiuxGS> OMG!
[06:14] <ArmandiuxGS> mofa: my Kubuntu have the SC 4.3.2... it normall?
[06:14] <mofa> ArmandiuxGX: yes
[06:15] <ArmandiuxGS> SC 4.4.1 is coming soon on Kubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?? (or what)
[06:17] <mofa> ArmandiuxGS: i think so. whenever KDE officially releases 4.4
[06:18] <skierpage> Does anyone know how PulseAudio/ALSA is supposed to work in Kubuntu 9.10?  vlc, Flash plugin, and aplay stopped making sounds (through ALSA <-> PulseAudio PCM I/O Plugin?) on my PC a few days ago but Amarok and KDE system sounds (through Phonon -> Xine?)
[06:19] <skierpage> I mean, Amarok and KDE system sounds play fine
[06:21] <ghale> i had a similar problem and found that some bars in the mixer were turned too low
[06:23] <ghale> also i had to install a pulseaudio package even though pulseaudio was already showing up in multimedia settings
[06:24] <ArmandiuxGS> i dont have sound in Konqueror for Flash Plugin
[06:24] <ArmandiuxGS> maybe PulseAudio
[06:26] <skierpage> ghale, thanks.  Alsamixer seems OK and if I tell it aplay to my sound card or built-in audio, it plays fine. It's the ALSA <-> PulseAudio part that messes up.
[06:26] <ArmandiuxGS> is Pulse Audio already insatlled on Kubuntu, same of Ubuntu?
[06:27] <skierpage> ghale, I mean something like `aplay -D 'front:CARD=Audigy2,DEV=0' /usr/share/sounds/k3b_success1.wav` works, but not if I let alsa do its default PulseAudio thingy.
[06:28] <ghale> hmm, i'm not sure about that
[06:29] <skierpage> ArmandiuxGS that's a good question!  At some point while getting Firefox and vlc running (they don't use Phonon), PulseAudio was on my system.
[06:30] <skierpage> Maybe I just have to figure out how to tell the upper ALSA layer to not use PulseAudio.  What's odd is that it worked for months on 9.04 and 9.10, then somehow broke 4 days ago.
[06:33] <cjae> ok so I right click a folder and select archive and encrypt then at prompt I select symmetrical encryption and no ascii, kgpg/gpg asks for password it give it twice
[06:33] <skierpage> Hmmm, maybe the steps in http://www.diederickdevries.net/blog/?p=104
[06:33] <cjae> how come it doesnt ask for a password when I select the folder again
[06:35] <cjae> any thoughts
[06:51] <mofa> cjae: the archive might be encrypted, but i dont believe the original files would be
[06:52] <cjae> mofa: so now what would be the point of that
[06:53] <cjae> I am trying password protect a folder
[06:53] <dwidmann> cjae: doing it that way, the point would be to make the encrypted archive, then delete the original files ...
[06:54] <dwidmann> cjae: that would be very cumbersome though, there are better ways to do this
[06:54] <dwidmann> cjae: truecrypt is a pretty good option
[06:54] <mofa> dwidmann: i'd be curious to know how to do this myself
[06:55] <dwidmann> http://www.truecrypt.org/
[06:58] <dwidmann> With it you can create an encrypted container ... this container will have a filesystem of its own, only accessible after you punch in your password of course
[06:58] <mofa> the solution i've found is to just insert a . before the folder name, to make it invisible unless you know the exact name. works for me
[06:58] <mofa> of course my solution isn't very secure...
[06:59] <dwidmann> that just hides it ... and in any file manager you can just select "view hidden files" and there it is ...
[07:00] <mofa> mhmm. no one i know understands how to work this computer though :P
[07:06] <ArmandiuxGS> skierpage, cjae: in my case, alsamixe have to default the pcm volume to "0".
[07:06] <ArmandiuxGS> *alsamixer
[07:07] <crimsun> skierpage: just remove PA if you don't need or use it
[07:08] <crimsun> otherwise you should configure Phonon to prefer it instead of your ALSA hw:0,0
[07:08] <crimsun> (or whichever hw device you have set)
[07:31] <cjae> mofa: yah hiiden folders wont cut it
[07:32] <mofa> cjae: truecrypt looks like a good solution
[07:40] <cjae> my problem is the even if I delete the originals with kgpg when I click the .gpg file or folder it doesn't sk for a password
[07:40] <cjae> ask
[07:42] <suekhim> does anyone know why global shortcuts such as Ctrl+1 don't work using the right hand side numeric keypad on numlock?
[07:42] <Tm_T> suekhim: I think those are considered as different buttons
[07:42] <suekhim> Tm_T: is there a workaround? i set the shortcuts using the right hand side keypad but after it's set they don't work
[07:43] <paulsomebody> Hello people, do anyone use JDownloader? I have troubles with it.
[07:43] <Tm_T> suekhim: hmm, don't know, sorry
[07:43] <suekhim> Tm_T: thanks anyway
[07:46] <paulsomebody> Concerning, when I open it's executable, jdownloader.jar with Kwin goes insane. Everything blinks, distortions are all around the screen and so on.
[07:46] <mofa> when i close the lid on my laptop nothing happens :( it's set to suspend to RAM. any ideas?
[07:46] <paulsomebody> Sorry, I meant "with OpenJDK".
[07:48] <paulsomebody> Anybody?
[07:50] <dwidmann> suekhim: try to change the shortcuts ... when you do, make use of the numpad numbers instead of hte other numbers
[07:51] <suekhim> dwidmann: thanks -- i did just that, actually, but it didn't work
[07:51] <suekhim> dwidmann: perhaps it is a problem with my make of keyboard
[07:51] <dwidmann> suekhim: I doubt it
[07:51] <suekhim> dwidmann: sigh .. me too
[07:51] <suekhim> dwidmann: but it's so much easier to swap out the keyboard
[07:53] <dwidmann> paulsomebody: try with sun's jre?
[07:54] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: What packages names are? Or just search 'jre'?
[07:54] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: sun-java6-jre
[07:55] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Trying to.
[07:55] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: then you need to select which jre to use with  sudo update-java-alternatives
[07:56] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I selected them to be installed, but now KPackageKit refuses to work argumenting that with broken dependencies.
[07:56] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Aptitude suggests removing something.
[07:56] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: something like?
[07:57] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: sun-java6-fonts and plugins.
[07:57] <dwidmann> odd
[07:58] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Could open java installed be the source of the problems?
[07:58] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: dunno, try letting it remove fonts and plugins and see what happens
[07:58] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: worst case you can always reinstall those
[07:59] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I know. It seems it auto-updated alternatives list.
[08:00] <rossini> ciao
[08:00] <rossini> list
[08:00] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: It uninstalled also all sun-java packages.
[08:00] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: What the ... is goning?
[08:01] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: "Unneeded dependencies", were they.
[08:02] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: weird ... (for the record, I swear by apt-get ... it's less prone to doing weird things)
[08:03] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Okay, I'll remember.
[08:04] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: At the homepage they state it needs Java Runtime Environment 1.5 or higher.
[08:05] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: yeah ... you've got that (or you did before it got removed)
[08:05] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I see. Any suggestions now?
[08:06] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: try again at installing sun-java6-jre, make sure it's set for use, and try the program out?
[08:09] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I have run "sudo update-jave-alternatives", output was: http://pastebin.ca/1730417
[08:09] <paulsomebody_> Is this okay?
[08:09] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: well, you'll need to do a bit more than that actually, it's just displaying the usage information for you
[08:10] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I see this is just syntax help. Concerning?
[08:10] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: concerning how to set which jre will be default
[08:11] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: And which should be?
[08:11] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: so that when you , for example, type in "java someprog.jar", it will use sun-java6-jre ... without the convenient alternatives list symlink setup, you would probably have to type /usr/lib/jvm/sun-java6-jre/bin/java someprog.jar  instead
[08:12] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: so first run it with the -l switch
[08:12] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: it will give you a list of choices, next run it with the -s switch with the one you want following  the -s
[08:12] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Okay.
[08:14] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: It looks like Sun's Java are not present there. There are only "java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk".
[08:17] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Ideas?
[08:17] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: run dpkg --list | grep sun-java
[08:17] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: if they don't say "ii" at the beginning of the line then they're not installed ...
[08:17] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Then they are not.
[08:19] <justwarm> hello
[08:19] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I cannot understand what is happening, I selected sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin packagesto be installed, dialog windows showed and then... Nothing happened.
[08:20] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: They are still in the list of available  packages, not installed.
[08:23] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: go to terminal and run sudo apt-get install -f
[08:24] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: theres a bug in kpackagekit
[08:24] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I see.
[08:24] <jussi01> Make sure kpackagekit is closed before hand
[08:24] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: "sudo apt-get install -f sun-java6-jre"?
[08:25] <jussi01> Im not dwidmann...
[08:25] <jussi01> anyway, sudo apt-get install -f
[08:25] <justwarm> how can i install softwares on a offline pc
[08:25] <jussi01> !offline | justwarm
[08:25]  * dwidmann is back
[08:25] <paulsomebody_> jussi01: It's quite obvious. Is package name needed?
[08:26] <rossini> list
[08:26] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: no... as I said...
[08:26] <paulsomebody_> jussi01: Okay.
[08:26] <paulsomebody_> jussi01: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[08:27] <justwarm> thank you.but is there another way to install softwares execpt apton cd.
[08:27] <paulsomebody_> jussi01: This is not what was expected.
[08:27] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: ok, then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[08:27] <jussi01> justwarm: have a look at that link...
[08:28] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: the reason this happens is becaus kpackagekit doesnt cope with displaying and accepting sun's licensing.
[08:28] <paulsomebody_> jussi01: I understand. Isn't this a bug?
[08:28] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: yes it is.
[08:28] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: yep, something like that.
[08:29] <paulsomebody_> At last, they are installed.
[08:29] <jussi01> :)
[08:29] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: I expect it to be  fixed in lucid
[08:30] <paulsomebody_> In the April? Isn't it too soon?
[08:30] <jussi01> paulsomebody_: ?
[08:31] <justwarm> how can i login as root
[08:31] <jussi01> !root
[08:32] <justwarm> but i want it in graphical mode
[08:33] <dwidmann> justwarm: introducing kdesudo :)
[08:33] <paulsomebody_> The output was http://pastebin.ca/1730432. Not what I expected. Take a look, is this okay?
[08:33] <paulsomebody_> I mean, that much error messages?
[08:34] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: probably okay
[08:34] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: think it's just because you don't have the jdk installed
[08:35] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: which you don't need unless you're planning on doing development stuffs
[08:35] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I am not.
[08:35] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: I'll try now.
[08:39] <justwarm> thank you ubottu
[08:39] <user1__> how can i electroplate gold on some other metal by means of a battery, anode, cathod, and a solution? i have searched google but didnt found the exact things ?
[08:40] <jussi01> user1__: thats not on topic for this channel, please try #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <jussi01> justwarm: ubottu is a bot
[08:41] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: What should I use to open the *.jar executables? I tried "Sun Java 6 Web Start", but it returns error.
[08:42] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Others are settings.
[08:42] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: make sure it's executable, then try clicking on it? else, run it with the "java" command in a terminal
[08:43] <justwarm> how can i change desktop background on kubuntu/
[08:43] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Surely, it's executable, clicking results in Ark dialog.
[08:44] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: hmm, option b it is then
[08:44] <paulsomebody_> justwarm: Open context menu with right click and select "Desktop Settings".
[08:44] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Okay.
[08:45] <justwarm> execpt that method
[08:45] <dwidmann> justwarm: as far as I know, that is "the" method.
[08:46] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Output was http://pastebin.ca/1730442.
[08:46] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: Nothing else.
[08:46] <justwarm> like gnome desktop can i change desktop background by right clicking on image
[08:47] <paulsomebody_> justwarm: Try dragging image to desktop?
[08:48] <justwarm> i tried that but there was no option like make desktop background as i am using kubuntu 9.10's default kde desktop
[08:49] <dwidmann> justwarm: I remember something like that being there in the past, but I don't see it anymore
[08:49] <dwidmann> Drag & drop does work though, neat
[08:49] <paulsomebody_> justwarm: What is not right with "Desktop Settings" or anything else?
[08:50] <paulsomebody_> justwarm: And of course, you can adjust it through the usual settings dialog, via the "System Settings".
[08:50] <paulsomebody_> dwidmann: And any ideas?
[08:50] <justwarm> because that is really very painful.
[08:51] <paulsomebody_> justwarm: Too painful to do a few clicks? My apologises.
[08:52] <dwidmann> paulsomebody_: I seem to remember dolphin & gwenview both implementing a pretty convenient feature along the lines of what he's looking for. I just don't remember how long it has been since I've seen it ...
[08:52] <justwarm> because always you have to remember where you have gotten your picture on your hard disk.
[08:53] <justwarm> and actually i don't like that way .
[08:56] <justwarm> and why not there will not be that option like windows,gnome desktop?
[08:56] <e01> hello
[08:56] <justwarm> hi e01
[08:56] <e01> is there in kubuntu 9.10 tool for configurating theme on qt
[08:57] <jussi01> e01: yes, you can configure the theme in systemsettings
[08:58] <e01> jussi01: but skype still stay with clearlooks
[08:58] <e01> and i have to run in always with option --disable-clearlookis
[08:59] <jussi01> e01: weird, mine uses oxygen by default.
[09:00] <e01> hm
[09:01] <e01> jussi01: i was get it from skype.com
[09:01] <e01> and there the ubuntu 8.10 pkg
[09:02] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: I got disconnected. Do you have any ideas about that thing?
[09:03] <dwidmann> Which thing?
[09:07] <skierpage> crimsun, I don't know if I need PulseAudio, I never explicitly installed it.  `aptitude why pulseaudio` says gnome-media recommends it.
[09:08] <skierpage> crimsun, However, `sudo aptitude remove pulseaudio` winds up saying "flashplugin-installer{u}  ... nspluginwrapper{u} will be REMOVED."  ?!? I'm not sure what the {u} part means, but I don't want to remove those packages.
[09:09] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: What I was asking you about last hour.
[09:09] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: Java.
[09:10] <justwarm> can i monitor which softwares have i installed on my system without apt?
[09:11] <skierpage> justwarm, I'm an idiot but a) you can use KPackageKit and b) I see some info about the history of packages in /var/log/dpkg.log* files.
[09:13] <justwarm> skierpage hey why u said urself idiot?
[09:14] <skierpage> justwarm Just warning you I am far from a dpkg/apt/aptitude/KPackageKit packaging master.
[09:15] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: okay, try this, (perhaps easier for you), navigate to the .jar file, right click, open with ..., say "java", and check the box "remember the associations for this filetype" or similar
[09:15] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: What "Java" exactly?
[09:15] <dwidmann> if things went well earlier, just "java" should suffice
[09:16] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: Okay, I'll type it into the "Open with" field.
[09:16] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: It didn't work.
[09:16] <justwarm> skierpage,pls don't mind if i hurt u.but i want to know that like windows can i remove any    application using a singel software like add or remove.
[09:17] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: try checking the box for "run in terminal" also
[09:18] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: Error. Output is http://pastebin.ca/1730456.
[09:18] <paulsomebody__> justwarm: Have you tried package manager?
[09:18] <ghostcube> justwarm: with synaptic
[09:19] <ghostcube> best to see whats on the mashine so far
[09:19] <ghostcube> even if kpackagekit gets better
[09:19] <paulsomebody__> ghostcube: Why you don't like KPackageKit?
[09:19] <ghostcube> it doesnt have the functionality synaptic has
[09:19] <paulsomebody__> ghostcube: Except the fact it's buggy.
[09:20] <ghostcube> and i run synaptic since years now
[09:20] <dwidmann> It's too new, not very mature
[09:20] <paulsomebody__> ghostcube: Sure it doesn't.
[09:21] <ghostcube> there are some things i dont get .... like millins of package managers doing the same ...
[09:21] <ghostcube> or dozends of network managers
[09:21] <ghostcube> o.O
[09:21] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: well, seems we've gotten somewhere now ... that's not a very nice error to be looking at.
[09:22] <dwidmann> ghostcube: as far as the many apt frontends though ... at least they're still probably all using the same libapt in the background
[09:22] <skierpage> ghostcube, synaptic isn't part of stock Kubuntu.  Indeed, there's a stupid number of package managers just in the Debian/Ubuntu world, let alone the other Linux distros.
[09:23] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: That's why I don't like GNU/Linux very much. If it works, it works just fine. Enjoyable. If it don't, it's hard to fix that.
[09:23] <dwidmann> <insert stupid number of package formats plug here>
[09:23] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: it can't find the main class, so it's not running it.
[09:24] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: Very well, it's incredibly exciting. But in the beginning, as I still can remember I just wanted to run the program.
[09:25] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: yes ... maybe extracting the archive will help (maybe not, but we'll see)
[09:26] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: pull up a terminal, cd /home/paulsomebody/JDownloader/
[09:26] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: jar -x *.jar
[09:27] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: There is nothing like executable inside.
[09:27] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: Nor *.jar, neither *.sh.
[09:28] <ghostcube> i know that synaptic isnt stock kubuntu :D its made in gtk :D
[09:28] <dwidmann> java files aren't compiled to machine code ... .java files are compiled to .class bytecode files ... those are what you reallly run
[09:28] <ghostcube> but that doesnt remove the fact we have too much of all this
[09:29] <ghostcube> the communication is not very well and the devs are so hmmm let me say unmovable
[09:29] <ghostcube> oO
[09:30] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: so where is that file then ... that's where it looked like it was located according to your pastebin
[09:31] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: Yes, it was there.
[09:31] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: this has been a bit too longwinded, I think I'll download it now and make it run, whether it likes it or not
[09:32] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: I am using another method of installation, jd.sh script.
[09:32] <skierpage> FYI, I removed pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils using KPackageKit, and now aplay/Flash/Vlc make sound again.  happpy camper.
[09:32] <paulsomebody__> dwidmann: It should download everything needed itself. It looks like it does so now.
[09:33] <skierpage> I've got no idea how it snuck onto my system, it's not in /var/log/dpkg.log*.
[09:34] <ve_> Hi am testing kubuntu how do i set up quassel irc to conect to freenode so i can chat here i did like konqure better. i miss kde 3.5
[09:35] <cjae> ok how can I at least password protect my archives? using ark
[09:36] <ve_> hello
[09:37] <ve_> help
[09:38] <paulsomebody> dwidmann: It launched at last. But psychodelic look of the desktop stayed. Take a look, I managed to take a screenshot: http://imagebin.ca/view/A-8PkPD.html.
[09:38] <ve_> a little help would go along way
[09:42] <ve_> oops can someone help me setup kde i cant use irc client
[09:45] <ve_> hi is this on. testing testing 1..2..3
[09:45] <ve_> is anyone out there
[09:45] <ghostcube> no
[09:45] <dwidmann> paulsomebody__: I see nothing but black ...
[09:45] <ghostcube> ve_: whats the problem what client
[09:45] <ve_> paulsomebody__that link to image is black screen for me to
[09:46] <paulsomebody> It seems that screenshot wasn't that successful as I used to think.
[09:46] <ve_> is there a patch for kubuntu 9.10 that emulates kde 3.5 without having to revert to the old 3.5
[09:47] <Tm_T> ve_: what you mean by "emulate" on this? look? functionality?
[09:48] <ve_> i just liked 3.5 better in alot of ways it was easier and simpler adn did what i wanted. I herd that kde 4 has a 3.5 varient ???
[09:48] <ve_> ^ Tm_Tr
[09:48] <ve_> ^ Tm_T
[09:49]  * ve_ thinks that Tm_Tr and Tm_T may be the same person
[09:50] <Tm_T> no, KDE4 doesn't have KDE3 variant, though they can be made to look the same
[09:52] <ve_> if Tm_Tr AND Tm_T ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON THEN PLEASE ONE OF YOU CHANGE NIC
[09:52] <Tm_T> ve_: we are same, and no need to yell (:
[09:53] <ve_> Tm_T this is what i mean https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic
[09:53] <Tm_T> ve_: that's KDE3 packages, has nothing to do with KDE4
[09:55] <ve_> Tm_T its the latest updated kde3 alternitave from kde 4
[09:56] <ve_> oo
[09:57] <meowkbuntu> hi
[09:58] <ve_> hi finally i have installed konversation much easier and better than quassel
[09:59] <ve_> is this freenode me wonders
[10:00] <ve_> hey this chanel is very quite atm whats up usually its busy as
[10:03] <ghostcube> its holiday time
[10:03] <ghostcube> and kde 4.3.x has some features like the tree view in systemsettings , that have been in 3.5x too
[10:04] <ghostcube> the kmenu is doable to look like in 3.5 by adding the old-menu applet to plasma
[10:04] <ghostcube> and dolphin is cooler :D
[10:05] <ve_> hi how do i update my kubuntu cant seem to find the update application like in ubuntu
[10:06] <ve_> ghostcube: i always wondered y kde4+ uses compleatly different apps than kde3.5
[10:07] <ghostcube> not completely the have been ported or rewritten
[10:07] <ghostcube> ve_: sudo apt-get update
[10:07] <ghostcube> or use synaptic
[10:07] <ghostcube> kpackagekit needs love ....
[10:08] <ve_> ghostcube: there is an application in ubuntu that shows the updates available that is slightly different to the terminal comand. also in linux mint its called Mintupdate.
[10:09] <ghostcube> not working so far in kubuntu cause i think kpackagekit cant handle apt
[10:09] <ghostcube> or dpkg calls
[10:09] <ve_> ghostcube: what is not working exactly
[10:09] <ghostcube> it wont show you updates so far like in the old versions
[10:09] <ghostcube> :)
[10:10] <ve_> ghostcube: i want to know how to change the default apps like webbrowser, audio player etc
[10:11] <ghostcube> systmsettings >> personal settings (hope thats the english tab) >> default applications
[10:11] <ve_> i am more of a mint/ubuntu user I have installed kubuntu on spare hdd for testing now
[10:12] <ghostcube> the audio or video settings are don eby filetype changing
[10:12] <ve_> thats gott me there thanks ghostcube
[10:12] <ghostcube> np
[10:13] <ve_> what means don eby
[10:13] <ghostcube> done by
[10:13] <ghostcube> heh
[10:17] <ve_> ghostcube: in kmenu there is a favorites application with webbrowser, instant messenger etc how to change the default applications there
[10:17] <ve_> * there is a favorites menu
[10:18] <ghostcube> ve_: you need to go to the tab where you change the file types and the apps used to play them
[10:18] <ghostcube> iam not on linux now  and hard to remember the english ones cause i run the german locales
[10:18] <ghostcube> :D
[10:18] <ve_> ghostcube: not all apps are there like audio player
[10:18] <ghostcube> no thats the wrong tab
[10:18] <ghostcube> not inside the default apps menu
[10:19] <ve_> ghostcube: its still in same place
[10:19] <ghostcube> its another category
[10:19] <ghostcube> file type association
[10:19] <ghostcube> or so
[10:20] <ve_> in ubuntu there is another way i cant remember exactly what its called though.
[10:21] <ve_> hi
[10:22] <ve_> ghostcube: any idea
[10:23] <ghostcube> nope you need to step through systemsettings and search the tab where you change the file type associations
[10:23] <ghostcube> jussi01: ping :)
[10:23] <jussi01> ghostcube: ?
[10:23] <ghostcube> can you may tell ve_ the location of the file type association menu inside kde
[10:23] <ghostcube> i dont remember the names in english
[10:24] <jussi01> huh?
[10:24] <ghostcube> in systemsettings where to change the audio programm for avi for example
[10:24] <ghostcube> its inside the file types or ?
[10:24] <ghostcube> i doenst kknow any other place
[10:24] <ghostcube> :D
[10:24] <ghostcube> but i dont remember the naming iam not on linux now
[10:24] <ghostcube> :|
[10:25] <ve_> ok thats fine what os you on then
[10:25] <jussi01> nah, easier way to do it than that, right click avi file, properties, click the wrench, then theres a list
[10:25] <ghostcube> jussi01: ah ok :) thx havent known works like this too
[10:25] <ghostcube> iam on XP :)
[10:26]  * ghostcube hides
[10:26] <ve_> jussi01: that dont make my preferred audio player for instance the system default now does it
[10:27] <ve_> ghostcube: thats ok xp has its uses
[10:46] <ve_> jussi01: i am looking for another better way thaat makes the application system default for the whole system not just certian files
[10:49] <user_> hey guys (:
[10:58] <ve_> hi where
[10:59] <mau> j/#kubuntu.it
[10:59] <mau> nou!!
[10:59] <mau> :-)
[11:02] <mau> anyone know the name of the kubuntu channel in Italian ????
[11:02] <jussi01> !it
[11:03] <jussi01> looks like the italian one is a combbined channel
[11:03] <mau> tnx
[11:05] <jussi01> ve_: that is system wide for all of that type of file.
[11:06] <rossini> ciao
[11:07] <slow-motion> hi
[11:10] <ve_> jussi01: what is
[11:11] <jussi01> the method I described
[11:12] <ve_> i do not want to have to do that for every single music file type i have  there is a way to set each os default applications. they come preinstalled with default ons you cah change them i guess you dont know where
[11:16] <Orion777> do you guys know if kubuntu(kde) will enhance the visuals from a netbook?
[11:16] <Orion777> its colors aren't very strong
[11:20] <Orion777> hi root
[11:21] <r00t_ninja_> hey
[11:21] <Orion777> do you know if kde can enhance color appearance?
[11:21] <Orion777> I have a netbook and the colors aren't very vibrant in windows...can kde enhance it?
[11:22] <ve_> i am wanting to change the default applications to ones i use
[11:23] <soee> hi
[11:28] <Orion777> hi soee
[11:30] <Orion777> hi marcel
[11:31] <Orion777> hi silad
[11:31] <silas__> hi
[11:31] <silas__> :P
[11:31] <silas__> Say, I know it's not a kubuntu question really but
[11:31] <silas__> I'm using tilda to have a console running on my desktop, looks really smooth :P
[11:32] <silas__> However, I'd like an IRC client that runs on the desktop as well
[11:32] <Orion777> you mean like embedded in the desktop?
[11:32] <silas__> Yeah
[11:32] <tsimpson> you can always run irssi in a terminal
[11:33] <tsimpson> or add the web browser widget and load up webchat.freenode.net in it
[11:33] <silas__> Cool thanks :)
[11:33] <silas__> is it hard to configure irssi
[11:33] <silas__> ?
[11:34] <tsimpson> it's not as easy as a GUI to start with, but like anything it's easy once you're used to it
[11:34] <Orion777> silas, what is the advantage of what you're talking about?
[11:34] <silas__> none really
[11:34] <Orion777> I just use quassel
[11:34] <silas__> I'm not familiar with that
[11:35] <Orion777> its one of the popular irc clients
[11:35] <silas__> What's the difference between quassel and konversation?
[11:35] <Peace-> Orion777: mmm konversation is better
[11:35] <Orion777> why
[11:35] <Peace-> silas__: quassel is not good like konversation
[11:36] <Peace-> just try it
[11:36] <Orion777> peace, what do you think of xchat
[11:36] <Peace-> and then get your opinion
[11:36] <silas__> The only thing I'm interested in, is the ability to be embedded on the desktop
[11:36]  * Sahkolihaa is using Quassel and doesn't see any issue with it since he can at least chat on it.
[11:36] <Peace-> xchat seems it has some stuff more than konversation but only if you have to manage some channel
[11:37] <Peace-> for me konversation is the best very confortable
[11:37] <Peace-> Sahkolihaa: try to ignore someone
[11:37] <silas__> OMG
[11:37] <Sahkolihaa> I rarely use ignore.
[11:38] <silas__> irssi works perfect
[11:38] <Peace-> Sahkolihaa: well ignore doesn't work well on quassel
[11:38] <Peace-> Sahkolihaa: on the last version i tried
[11:39] <silas__> So thanks for that one :)
[11:49] <Sahkolihaa> I wish they'd switch KWin to use a normal coloured box when resizing a window instead of redrawing it constantly. I have a 9800GT and it's still slow as hell. :|
[11:52] <Orion777> peace
[11:53] <Orion777> oh
[11:53] <r00t_ninja_> Sahkolihaa: its not slow with my intel card but it is with my nvidia card , i think it may be some sort of bug in the drivers
[11:53] <r00t_ninja_> although my nvidia card is a fx 5500
[11:53] <Sahkolihaa> Ahh, never considered that.
[11:53] <Orion777> nvidia cards have digital vibrance which is like the god feature
[11:53] <Sahkolihaa> Would be odd for a bug in nVidia's driver though.
[11:53] <Sahkolihaa> With how pretty much anything in OpenGL will run perfectly on them.
[11:54] <silas__> ok so this works like a charm, thanks tsimpson
[11:56] <vansivel> ку)
[11:57] <benjamin__> hi, anyone an idea where can i set the screen DPI in kubuntu?
[11:57] <ozi> wow
[11:57] <benjamin__> I have a hp2133 and the fonts are way to big
[11:57] <ozi> u mean resolution :D
[11:57] <benjamin__> no the display resolution is correct
[11:57] <robinr> hi, is there som applet for telling me what "shift"-keys are "down" when sticky keys are enabled?
[11:59] <benjamin__> just the fonts are to big
[11:59] <benjamin__> I did a installation and didn't do any manual changes
[12:00] <benjamin__> so something must be automatically misconfigured
[12:00] <ozi> 1. try google help there is alot
[12:00] <ozi> 2.
[12:01] <ozi> replace a monitor with a better reply
[12:01] <ve_> hi is there a terminal command to display kde default applications.
[12:01] <benjamin__> very funny, your "help" is of no use
[12:02] <paulsomebody__> benjamin__: Wait a second.
[12:03] <ozi> he2
[12:03] <robinr> benjamin__: you can set the monitor size in xorg.conf if it doesnt't figure it out itself
[12:03] <ozi> i try
[12:03] <ozi> and its work for me :D
[12:03] <ve_> hi is there a terminal command to display kde default applications. echo $USER && gnome-default-applications-properties
[12:04] <benjamin__> robinr: hm that could be a hint, I check this thanks
[12:04] <paulsomebody__> benjamin__: First, for most of the common activities there is "System Settings" thing. You need "Appearance" thing. There is a "Font" tab to be found.
[12:05] <paulsomebody__> benjamin__: There you could set DPI. And I would advise installing fonts from "ttf-droid" package for the best look.
[12:06] <ve_> also how to install my nvide graphics driver gnome has a default auto detcting for that
[12:06] <Sahkolihaa> ve_ - Under the menu, go to System > Hardware Drivers.
[12:06] <benjamin__> paulsomebody__:  of corse I could set all the fonts manually but this dosn't affect all fonts, the login screen for example not. So I think theres something else wrong.
[12:07] <paulsomebody__> People, do anyone use" kxneur"?
[12:07] <benjamin__> hm there seams to be no dpi configuration option. THe grafic card is a via
[12:07] <robinr> nvidias own driver set the DPI correctly for what I know, but the free drivers don't (or didn't)
[12:07] <benjamin__> there's only a beta dricer unfortunallity
[12:08] <benjamin__> but i check the xorg conf first
[12:08] <paulsomebody__> benjamin__: That affects all "in-KDE" fonts. Login screen fonts is to be adjusted separately in the "Advanced" > "Login Manager".
[12:08] <robinr> DisplaySize width height in mm in the monitor section
[12:09] <paulsomebody__> benjamin__: First, you could try using "Force DPI" option.
 benjamin__: you can set the monitor size in xorg.conf if it doesnt't figure it out itself <<< I've tried and worked
[12:11] <paulsomebody__> benjamin__: Managed to?
[12:11] <paulsomebody__> Is there anyone using Kxneur?
[12:11] <paulsomebody__> I have trouble installing it.
[12:13] <paulsomebody__> I have downloaded latest available version from Ubuntu software packages search, including "libxnconf" library, but there is an odd thing about it.
[12:13] <paulsomebody__> When I pre-install library before installing Kxneur GDebi says it should be removed.
[12:13] <paulsomebody__> Can anyone help?
[12:14] <benjamin__> paulsomebody__: hm xorg.conf is nearly empty http://pastebin.com/m23cc4481
[12:15] <benjamin__> paulsomebody__: sorry wrong one
[12:17] <paulsomebody> benjamin__: So, what fonts do you want to set?
[12:22] <pedro> Hey, somebody wants create a
[12:22] <pedro> Linux Distribuition?
[12:24] <paulsomebody> pedro: No, I don't want.
[12:24] <benjamin__> paulsomebody__: there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11, is this the right place? Is threre a "pastbin" for pictures, I made a screenshot so you can see
[12:30] <ghostcube> arent there enough distributions on the run o.O
[12:30] <ve_> hi how can i access ublog i deleted it from teh desktop
[12:31] <ve_> benjamin__: imagbin
[12:31] <ve_> !paste
[12:31] <ve_> !pawste | benjamin__
[12:31] <ve_> !paste | benjamin__
[12:32] <benjamin__> ok, thanks
[12:33] <paulsomebody> benjamin__: Are you listening to me at all? Generally, you don't need to edit xorg.conf manually.
[12:35] <ve_> paulsomebody: hi how can i access ublog i deleted it from the desktop its not in kmenu
[12:35] <ve_> linux is cool browsing xxx sites and you dont get viruses lol
[12:36] <paulsomebody> ve_: Right click anywhere on the desktop, select "Add Widget", and then select uBlog.
[12:38] <ghostcube> ve_: nah not true
[12:38] <benjamin__> paulsomebody: where do I set the force dpi option?
[12:38] <ghostcube> if its an java script based thing it would even work on linux
[12:38] <ghostcube> o.o
[12:38] <Guest1663> why doesn't "emerald --replace &" work in kubuntu?
[12:38] <ghostcube> hmmm thats not true
[12:39] <ghostcube> Guest1663: for me it does so what grafic card and drivers and what kde ?
[12:39] <ghostcube> it sometimes forget to load emerald thats true but i dont think this is an ubuntu problem
[12:39] <Guest1663> I don't know...it works in my gnome
[12:40] <ghostcube> i think this is Qt problem
[12:40] <paulsomebody> benjamin__: Take a look, http://pastebin.ca/1730589.
[12:40] <Guest1663> from ubuntu I installed kubuntu dessktop
[12:40] <ghostcube> Guest1663: is the emerald set in window deco plugin ?
[12:40] <Guest1663> don't know...I'm not familliar with kde
[12:40] <ghostcube> if emerald --replace & doesnt do the trick second time loading compiz --replace ccp & disown should solve it
[12:40] <Guest1663> where's window deco
[12:40] <ghostcube> nah inside ccsm
[12:41] <ghostcube> is there emerald inserted for default decorator
[12:42] <ghostcube> Guest1663: what backend type are you running ? inside ccsm
[12:42] <ghostcube> gconf or flatfile ?
[12:42] <ghostcube> Guest1663: maybe step in #compiz
[12:43] <Guest1663> well how do I find out ?the backend
[12:43] <Guest1663> it's
[12:43] <Guest1663> flatfile
[12:43] <ghostcube> ok flatfile should work on kubuntu too
[12:43] <ghostcube> so check the window decorator plugin inside ccsm
[12:43] <ghostcube> what is the command placed in there
[12:44] <ve_> paulsomebody: ublog is not there
[12:45] <ghostcube> i think there is only micro blog or ?
[12:45] <paulsomebody> ve_: It is there, it is called "Microblogging".
[12:45] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: Have you ever used kxneur?
[12:45] <javier_> Hi everybody. I've problems with sound in my kubuntu. It was changing all the time between HDA Nvidia (conexant analog) and HDA Nvidia (conexant digital), but now I managed for deleting digital one and I don't have sound most of the times. Someone's knows how can I deal with this?
[12:46] <paulsomebody> javier_: Set priority via the "Hardware Settings"?
[12:46] <ghostcube> javier_: systemsettings >> multimedia what device is set there
[12:46] <ghostcube> paulsomebody: hmm nope never used
[12:46] <ghostcube> whats this
[12:47] <javier_> yes, I've done such stuff. But, now it dissapeared the digital one and only have "pulseaudio" and "analog" and "analog #1"(which I believe is exactly the same as normal analog)
[12:47] <javier_> ghostcube: so, I've lost digital that is where it was switching when analog wasn't working, and now I dont have sound
[12:47] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: Obsolete software I am trying to install.
[12:48] <ghostcube> javier_: do analog to the top of the list
[12:48] <javier_> ghostcube: it happens when I've used for instance, youtube, and later i open amarok, i dont get it to work
[12:48] <ghostcube> javier_: try jackd ?
[12:48] <ghostcube> paulsomebody: hmm its a switcher tool ?
[12:49] <javier_> I tried jackd in my previous version, it worked somehow, but not properly, with some error notifications from time to time
[12:49] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: Yes.
[12:49] <ghostcube> javier_: yeah but there is an ppa to solve this
[12:49] <javier_> if I could recover HDA Nvidia (conexant digital), it would be good, I think
[12:49] <javier_> ghostcube: ah, good. Where can I find it?
[12:49] <ghostcube> with this jackd and qjackctl and disabling the startup sound it gets detected as soundserver inside kde settings
[12:50] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: Something similar to Punto Switcher. I tried Gxneur, but it's not perfect in KDE.
[12:50] <ghostcube> paulsomebody: i use the stack switchers from compiz
[12:50] <ghostcube> javier_: moment pls
[12:50] <javier_> ghostcube: of course :)
[12:50] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: Compiz or Kwin?
[12:50] <ghostcube> javier_: you need to start jackd with a simple shell script at startup and let it sleep 15 seconds
[12:50] <ghostcube> paulsomebody: compiz
[12:51] <ghostcube> javier_: so qjackctl will connect properly
[12:51] <ghostcube> javier_: https://launchpad.net/~motin/+archive/until-jack-is-included-in-main
[12:51] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: I use Kwin and I don't want to switch to Compiz just because of this. And what kind of switcher is this?
[12:51] <ghostcube> woah you have 4 switchers
[12:51] <ghostcube> ring stack and so on
[12:52] <ghostcube> its hard to dexvribe i think ring is like vista one
[12:52] <ghostcube> or better vista ripped it from us
[12:52] <ghostcube> :D
[12:52] <ghostcube> but paulsomebody in #compiz may more guys can tell you i havent used all things in last time
[12:53] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: Can you give a screenshot?
[12:53] <javier_> ghostcube: how should I install jack... those packets that are in the link you sent me?
[12:54] <ghostcube> javier_: add the repository to the sources.list
[12:54] <ghostcube> paulsomebody: wiki.compiz.org
[12:54] <ghostcube> check there iam not at linux here
[12:54] <ghostcube> iam later back at ome
[12:54] <ghostcube> h
[12:55] <ghostcube> javier_: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/motin/until-jack-is-included-in-main/ubuntu karmic main
[12:55] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:00] <ve_> paulsomebody: ublog is not there
[13:02] <javier_> ghostcube: so, if I did it well, it should be almost ready. Finally I instaled it from  kpackagekit
[13:02] <javier_> and all dependencies
[13:02] <javier_> now, i should open it as you explained
[13:02] <javier_> what means start with a simple shell script?
[13:04] <javier_> ghostcube: what means start with a simple shell script?
[13:04] <paulsomebody> ghostcube: You didn't understand me right, it's a keyboard layout switcher.
[13:08] <cjohnston> Could someone give me the link to the last LTS release download please?
[13:10] <Guest16427> hello again enabled compiz and it works but "emerald --replace &" still won't work
[13:12] <Guest16427> the window decorator command in cssm is "/usr/bin/compiz-decorator"
[13:12] <Guest16427> why doesn't emerald work? :(
[13:13] <paulsomebody> cjohnston: Take a look at the kubuntu.org.
[13:16] <cjohnston> paulsomebody: im not finding a link to the LTS.. only to 9.10
[13:19] <ubuntu_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[13:19] <ubuntu_> anyone here
[13:19] <ubuntu_> hey
[13:19] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[13:20] <ubuntu_> FloodBotK2 hey
[13:31] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[13:31] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[13:31] <jason_> anybody run into any samba issues with kubuntu? Theres times I simply cant pick up network shares and other times I can, yet nothing changed to prompt why I would one time and not another
[13:46] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[13:53] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[13:53] <ghostcube> o.O
[13:56] <jason_> anybody run into any samba issues with kubuntu? Theres times I simply cant pick up network shares and other times I can, yet nothing changed to prompt why I would one time and not another
[14:01] <ghostcube> jason_: try smb4k
[14:01] <jason_> ghostcube - Im currently using smb4k. Same results. :(
[14:01] <ghostcube> hmmmm
[14:01] <ghostcube> thats strange
[14:01] <jason_> tell me about it
[14:01] <jason_> it makes me wonder why I bother
[14:02] <jason_> frustrating to just refresh your folder and blam you cant save your work
[14:03] <jason_> fresh install of Kubuntu as well, its about 24 hours old. apt-get install samba, etc etc.
[14:03] <jason_> didnt install a firewall. Not sure why dolphin comes back from time to time prompting its my firewall when I dont have any, unless kubuntu has a preconfigured one thats in the background I dont know about
[14:08] <justwarm> hello friend
[14:08] <justwarm> how to change desktop background
[14:10] <apparle> Hello guys
[14:15] <jason_> apparle - whats up
[14:23] <jason_> apparle whats up
[14:30] <apparle> jason_: I'm fine..... looking for the developers of kdelirc
[14:35] <jason_> nice man
[14:35] <jason_> are you good with samba?
[14:37] <jason_> Im having some intermitten issues with samba that I dont recall having when I ran ubuntu on this same laptop...
[14:45] <Goliath> hey i have a problem with knetworkmanager
[14:45] <Goliath> when the pc boots my wlan0 isnt up
[14:45] <Goliath> and knetworkmanager in tray when i click it says
[14:46] <Goliath> network management disabled
[14:48] <Goliath> anyone help
[14:48] <jason_> if you right click it, what does it say
[14:48] <jason_> the icon for it
[14:49] <Goliath> the same thing
[14:49] <Goliath> network management disabled
[14:51] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[14:53] <smooky_> hi guys
[14:53] <smooky_> i have ubuntu 9.04
[14:53] <smooky_> DSL tab disabled in kde networking
[14:53] <smooky_> how can i enable it?
[14:54] <smooky_> how can i enable DSL tab?
[15:07] <Goliath> HEY
[15:07] <Goliath> knetworkmanager says
[15:07] <Goliath> network management disabled
[15:07] <Goliath> how do i fix this
[15:08] <ghostcube> Goliath: if its worth you need to use wicd :|
[15:08] <ghostcube> some things arent working in network manager so far
[15:08] <Goliath> like what?
[15:09] <ghostcube> wlan
[15:09] <ghostcube> :)
[15:09] <Goliath> mine was working till now
[15:10] <jason_> how can I edit dolphin so I ALWYAS see the address bar?
[15:10] <Goliath> jason_:
[15:10] <ghostcube> Goliath: ok what have you done so it stopes :)
[15:10] <Goliath> double click
[15:10] <Goliath> choose edit
[15:10] <Goliath> and full path
[15:10] <jason_> but is there a way so it shows up all the time? When I close dolphin and reopen it, it doesnt show it
[15:11] <yoyo> settings>configure dolphin
[15:11] <jason_> got it - thanks
[15:15] <apparle> jason_: sorry I don't know anything abt samba
[15:16] <jason_> apparle - its all good. I just asked in the ubuntu chat and it seems like the overwelming consensus is that browsing for samba shares, whether its nautilus or dolphin, kind of sucks. Everyone I talked to said using the direct path is the way to go. So I edited the dolphin path to smb://myserver/myfolder and blam - my folder contents appeared - despite not being able to browse to it. So I just bookmarked it. Lifes good. :P
[15:17] <jason_> apparle - my ubuntu co worker also said she had some weirdness with nautilus, but just bookmarked her share on the left side of nautilus and never had any issues. So far in the short time Ive done that with dolphin Ive had 0 issues too, despite being able to browse to it, then randomly not being able to browse to it intermittenly
[15:18] <jason_> direct path overrules all, I guess :P
[15:18] <apparle> jason_: :)
[15:21] <gmourani> hello
[15:21] <justwarm> how can i format my pen drive?
[15:30] <RiotingPacifist> i keep getting "checking validity of the OpenSSL headers in /usr... configure: error: bad. Check config.log for details" when trying to compile something but libssl-dev is installed
[15:33] <jason_> justwarm - what are you trying to do? Crash your entier install and start over?
[15:34] <justwarm> no. i just entered my pen drive on my current system and found viruse  of windows so i want to format that.
[15:35] <abhi_> hello all
[15:36] <jason_> justwarm - do it through GParted.
[15:37] <justwarm> jason,where can i found it on my kubuntu 9.10 system?
[15:38] <jason_> justwarm - if you dont have it, install it. one moment
[15:38] <justwarm> but how/
[15:39] <jason_> justwarm - either search for "gparted" in add/remove programs, or run sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:39] <jason_> in terminal
[15:39] <jason_> both ways work
[15:39] <jasa> Heh, just made a downport to old 8.04 ... need to start some project around, that can actually come somewhat troublesome.
[15:39] <justwarm> jason,is there another way execpt gparted?
[15:39] <jasa> Actually the ideal would be to make some custom compiled things with old gcc and avoid apt-get mass of packages.
[15:40] <jason_> justwarm - well, not that Imaware of. Why would you want to use anything else? GParted is a way to manage, format, and create partitions. Its the easeist way to go, in my opinion.
[15:40] <jasa> One main thing seems that they have already removed the old package servers completely
[15:41] <jasa> Also no "adept" or similiar on kubuntu on 8.04, so what would you recommend to find around ?
[15:43] <jasa> So, the main question from me would be that what graphical package managers are in the old version that would allow to make the OS even more clean to start nearly from scratch. -.-
[15:44] <jason_> sounds like a lot of work - is a fresh install not an option?
[15:45] <jasa> jason_: it's a fresh install of older version and make certain that the base has been compiled with the older gcc.
[15:45] <jasa> jason_: to ensure everything around on top of the base would be too.
[15:46] <jason_> hm, I see. Seems a little beyond me though, to be honest...
[15:47] <jasa> jason_: for example of gcc version 3 does freedecsa decoding by the claims 2x faster than the new version 4 ...
[15:47] <jason_> is 4 in beta or osmething?
[15:48] <jasa> jason_: also i could do the normal way around and install that compability on new one and basicly do a clearing around and then do the compiles but i wanted this way around it's ...
[15:48] <jasa> jason_: no the version 4 has been around for years now.
[15:48] <jason_> thats wierd that youd have performance like that
[15:48] <jason_> not sure where to go with it from there man
[15:49] <jasa> jason_: well main thing would be seemingly to do the command line of removal all the applications and things that are useless and the older apt-get doesnt clear the orphans so one should most likely compile new one too ...
[15:50] <DrewdRox> hello
[15:51] <DrewdRox> I am having issues makeing the boot CD
[15:51] <DrewdRox> I have kubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso downloaded and I have burned it twice to disk
[15:51] <DrewdRox> but when I put in my new HD for this.. .and try and boot off the CD.. nothing happens
[15:51] <DrewdRox> I think the CD isn't bootable
[15:52] <jasa> DrewdRox: do a command line burn on with "wodim kubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso", if it doesnt work your bios settings are wrong
[15:52] <DrewdRox> can somebody point me in the right direction
[15:52] <DrewdRox> jasa
[15:52] <jasa> DrewdRox: when you boot the computer to get into bios have multiple ways around like pressing "F2" or similiar button depending the way around.
[15:52] <DrewdRox> yup
[15:52] <DrewdRox> did that
[15:52] <DrewdRox> put CD first
[15:53] <DrewdRox> then usb then HD
[15:53] <FloodBotK1> DrewdRox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <jasa> DrewdRox: you have updated latest firmwares to the drive and so on ?
[15:54] <jasa> DrewdRox: i'd still go into the assumation of that you just burned the image as data rather than "unpacking" it to the cd ... -.-
[15:54] <DrewdRox> jasa:  Yes I think I have done everything I shoudl have. I can install other linux's ... AKA I have Cent OS disks here and they work
[15:54] <DrewdRox> jasa..,. that might be what happened. I installed window 7 about 2 months ago
[15:54] <jasa> DrewdRox: so it's only the new kubuntu and no boot screen at all ?
[15:55] <DrewdRox> had to use that to burn the image... that might be the main issues
[15:55] <jasa> DrewdRox: unless it made the session burn everything should be fine ...
[15:56] <DrewdRox> jasa:  when I attempt to boot from the disk it doen't boot.  but my machine will boot form the cd drive with a different cd
[15:56] <DrewdRox> the disk I burned has about 8 dirs, and 6 files
[15:56] <jasa> DrewdRox: so is that now disk failure or cd failure ?
[15:57] <jasa> DrewdRox: also multi sessions might be some type of problems around ... but burning image normal way around shouldnt create those.
[15:58] <DrewdRox> jasa: I am not sure.   it looks to me like I can't boot from the CD.  I am installing this on a new HD.  so when it doesn't boot form the CD the machine just sits there with no master boot record
[15:59] <jasa> DrewdRox: aah ... that type of issue.
[16:00] <DrewdRox> jasa:  yeah.. just want to try kubuntu. but can't seem to get it installed.   figured I would ask and see if anybody has gotten around this issue before
[16:00] <DrewdRox> I think I can try from USB as well?  what do you think?
[16:01] <jasa> DrewdRox: assuming it's a "sata" hard drive, what does "cfdisk /dev/sda1" show ? Does it show as it's bootable partition ... or where you have the boot things around.
[16:01] <jasa> DrewdRox: You could do it on usb too i'd assume ... but i would not recommend as too many writes and reads around renders it useless over the time.
[16:02] <DrewdRox> jasa: just to install from... that is what I was thinking
[16:02] <DrewdRox> can I make a kubuntu bootable usb device that will install kubuntu?
[16:03] <jasa> DrewdRox: google could be only help on that, not sure if i read any forum guides around on that matter really.
[16:10] <jasa> Well what we know, we have a graphical package manager around after removing way too many useless programs and cleared menu list.
[16:12] <DrewdRox> jasa  --> going to try this    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[16:16] <jasa> DrewdRox: Good luck.
[16:17] <jasa> DrewdRox: i could even assume you just threw random link to check around, but no, i did not check it ... up to you.
[16:25] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[16:30] <javier_> Hi to everyone. I've installed Jack Audio solving my audio problems. Now, although I get sound, jack Audio Connection Kit pops out an error message. Someone knows how to deal with it?
[16:33] <javier_> message says: couldn't connect jack to the server as a client
[16:34] <justwarm> what's happening.
[16:42] <justwarm> ggggg
[16:42] <justwarm> k
[16:42] <justwarm> ol
[16:42] <justwarm> p;
[16:42] <justwarm> ;
[16:42] <justwarm> k
[16:42] <FloodBotK2> justwarm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <justwarm> u
[16:42] <justwarm> paste
[16:44] <justwarm> how can i change boot screen?
[16:45] <javier_> I've installed Jack Audio solving my audio problems. Now, although I get sound, jack Audio Connection Kit pops out an error message. Someone knows how to deal with it?
[17:01] <justwarm> jason,how  can i change boot screen image?
[17:02] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[17:05] <jason_> I know in Ubuntu I can auto start applications and even custom commands simply by going system - admin - startup applications. Where's the equivalent in KDE? (Kubuntu)
[17:05] <Tm_T> jason_: in systemsettings -> advanced tab
[17:05] <jason_> then autostart?
[17:06] <Tm_T> I guess, cannot remember what is there
[17:06] <Tm_T> should be obvious though
[17:06] <jason_> autostart doenst look like its it... theres very little in it
[17:07] <Tm_T> jason_: that's it then (:
[17:07] <jason_> lol
[17:07] <Tm_T> there's none or very little by default there
[17:08] <jason_> Tm_T - also, what do you know about KDE updates with Kubuntu? It seems as if my Fedora machine will update version by version of KDE. Why isnt this possible with Kubuntu?
[17:08] <jason_> well I guess what confused me was in Ubuntu they have the startup services listed there too. I guess thats why I expected more.
[17:08] <Tm_T> jason_: what updates you mean?
[17:09] <jason_> like
[17:09] <jason_> KDE 4.3.2 to KDE 4.3.3
[17:09] <jason_> etc
[17:09] <Tm_T> jason_: newer KDE for Karmic, for example?
[17:09] <jason_> I didnt grab any KDE updates yet, but on the Fedora forums people are talking as if getting new versions of KDE updates is a usual thing. Just wondering why we never see it with Kubuntu.
[17:09] <Tm_T> jason_: that is long story, but topic will tell more, and http://www.kubuntu.org in general
[17:10] <Tm_T> gone for moment ->
[17:12] <bliss> guys no sound in firefox or chrome
[17:13] <bliss> how do i fix this?
[17:15] <alessio> cucù
[17:25] <Joan> KDE > Gnome
[17:34] <tribaldata> anyone ever setup a ATI FireMV 2250 with the dongle to split screen
[17:34] <tribaldata> ?
[17:38] <lordganesh> how to remove kamil from startup
[17:39] <lordganesh> sorry ,how to remove kmail from startup
[17:45] <lordganesh> how to remove kmail from startup
[17:48] <jason_> will kubuntu be getting its own LTS with 10.04?
[17:49] <sven___> remove kmail from startup?
[17:51] <Joan> sven___ for favorite programs ?
[17:53] <sven___> Joan I don't know, also don't know what lordganesh question was
[17:54] <ultrand> internet 3g, alguém pode ajudar?
[18:13] <Trebla> does using a KVM switch between ubuntu 9.10 and a windows machine cause problems with networking?
[18:14] <Peace-> !offtopic
[18:24] <diablo> Hi, how do rename files written in iso-... instead of utf8 in dolphin ? Because I have a bug and I cannot do anything with these files (copy, rename, delete)... Thanks
[18:42] <groemk> Чет непонятно...
[18:42] <jasa> Hmm, russian user around ?
[18:43] <jasa> You could atleast type in default in normal chat.
[18:43] <groemk> ohhh yeah))
[18:43] <jasa> So, what was the thing you had in mind ?
[18:43] <groemk> I cant stay here?
[18:43] <ghostcube> if you speak english you can
[18:43] <ghostcube> :D
[18:44] <jasa> Well i doub they have bots against other than flooding only.
[18:44] <groemk> thanks
[18:44] <groemk> i speak dont very well
[18:44] <ghostcube> or you join the russian channel
[18:44] <ghostcube> there is one
[18:45] <groemk> how&
[18:45] <ghostcube> !ru | groemk
[18:45] <groemk> ?
[18:46] <groemk> why i can stay here? because i dont speak on eng?
[18:47] <ghostcube> hmm nah you can ask here or stay here but we dont speak rusian here :)
[18:47] <ghostcube> its not against you its for youre provit maybe to ask in youre native language
[18:47] <ghostcube> :)
[18:58] <michael__> Hello
[18:58] <michael__> anyone here know about LUBUNTU?
[18:59] <fernando> hello
[19:00] <ferandres> hello
[19:01] <ferandres> anyone listening?
[19:32] <soee> how can i swich direcotry do usb device in terminal ?
[19:33] <genii> soee: Is the usb device a storage device? Is it mounted? If mounted then in what directory?
[19:33] <soee> ok got it
[19:34] <soee> it was mounted and the path was /media/kingston/
[19:36] <slow-motion> hi
[19:37] <soee> hi
[19:38] <roam> the math is wrong
[19:39] <roam> the distance
[19:55] <theball> very quiet in here
[19:57]  * genii hands out coffees
[20:02] <Hanumaan> where is the grub configuration file in kubuntu ?
[20:04] <genii> Hanumaan: Depends if grub1 or grub2
[20:04] <Hanumaan> genii, how do I know if I am using grub1 or grub2 ? I am using kubuntu latest ..
[20:05] <genii> Hanumaan: If /boot/grub/grub.cfg    exists, then grub2
[20:05] <genii> !grub2
[20:10] <Hanumaan> genni, I am trying to keep both fedora and kubuntu distoros how can I do this ?
[20:11] <Hanumaan> genni, I have fedora on sda1 and kubuntu on sda2 with grub2. normally I used to copy the entries of grub.conf previously now .. what should I do ?
[20:15] <CyberSix> rtfm.. grub2 is compeltely different than grub
[20:40] <Tm_T> !rtfm > CyberSix
[20:40] <CyberSix> huh?
[20:42] <CyberSix> ubottu: i don't see one :(
[20:42] <CyberSix> ubottu: that seems to be a channel specialty
[20:43] <Tm_T> !rtfm | CyberSix
[20:43] <Tm_T> CyberSix: better? (:
[20:43] <CyberSix> oh yeah
[20:44] <CyberSix> we're not against reading manuals, just using acronyms?
[20:44] <Tm_T> rude acronyms, yes
[20:50] <dodger> hello
[20:51] <dodger> is it possible that the libsoprano4 and soprano-backend-sesame packaged in 4.4 beta 2 are incompatible?
[20:51] <K350> Is there a way to specify where in the kmenu a shortcut to an application will be placed during the installation of it?
[20:52] <dodger> i've got soprano-backend-sesame 2.3.0
[20:52] <dodger> and libsoprano4 2.3.70
[20:53] <dodger> looks like soprano-backend-sesame 2.3.70 is missing from the beta ppa?
[20:54] <ToxinPowe> I have 2.3.0 too
[20:54] <ToxinPowe> with beta ppa
[20:56] <dodger> hmmm
[20:56] <dodger> nepomuk isn't working for me at all
[20:56] <ToxinPowe> dodger, same for me, I don't know :(
[20:56] <dodger> ToxinPowe: ok, at least it's not just me :)
[20:57] <dodger> libsoprano4 lists soprano-backend-sesame 2.3.70 as a dependency, so i figure that's the problem
[20:58] <ToxinPowe> I think they going to use "virtuoso" in the future
[20:58] <dodger> yeah, that's the plan
[20:59] <ToxinPowe> maybe for that, we don't have sesame working? I don't know, I'm only a user :s
[21:00] <dodger> well, from what i gather virtuoso is planned as the default for 4.4, so it's entirely possible that the sesame side isn't getting updated right now
[21:00] <ToxinPowe> ok
[21:00] <dodger> it's beta, afterall ;)
[21:01] <ToxinPowe> yes, we wait to February =)
[21:11] <lap> alguien que hable español
[21:11] <Tm_T> !es | lap
[21:12] <lap> ok
[21:15] <marius> hello ppl
[21:16] <Guest1834> when I change the icon theme it doesn't apply to all the folders
[21:16] <Guest1834> in fact there are few those who adopt the new theme
[21:16] <Guest1834> why is that so?
[21:17] <Tm_T> not all themes contain all icons
[21:17] <Guest1834> well they all contain the folder icon
[21:17] <Tm_T> hmm, normal folder icon?
[21:17] <Guest1834> yep
[21:17] <Tm_T> that's strange then, have you tried relogin?
[21:18] <Guest1834> I did
[21:18] <Guest1834> :(
[21:18] <Tm_T> interesting...
[21:18] <Tm_T> where those icons doesn't change? or where they do?
[21:20] <Guest1834> for ex. I have a folder on the desktop. inside it they won't change. that...only if I access it from the desktop. but if I open the desktop folder after opening dolphin from the menu launcher...it's all fine
[21:22] <Guest1834> that's annoying...cause my new iconset is just breathtaking
[21:22] <Guest1834> :))
[21:28] <Napoleon__B> I´m having a problem with sound on my laptop after upgrading to 9.10, it´s gone!! anyone have a tip fore getting it back??
[21:30] <dodger> Napoleon__B: do you have the mixer icon in your system tray?
[21:31] <Guest1834> where are the themes located in kubuntu?
[21:32] <Guest1834> icon themes I mean
[21:33] <Napoleon__B> dodger: do you mean normal sound icon at the top bar to the right?  Cause it is there :)
[21:33] <Guest1834> in ubuntu they're in ./icons...here where?
[21:36] <dodger> Napoleon__B: depends on where your system tray is ;) but it should look like a little speaker
[21:36] <csh> hello, I want to use dhcpv6 and dhcp3 doesn't understand that... is there any prefered way to get this working?
[21:37] <dodger> Napoleon__B: click on it and then the 'mixer' button to open the mixer and see if any of it is muted or turned down
[21:42] <Napoleon__B> dodger: it doesent look like something is turned of, but somehow there is no unit in hardware, could this be the cause of the problem??
[21:43] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, let's find out what the system recognizes - in the mixer window, you should be seeing tabs, one for each audio device
[21:44] <dodger> so you should have at least one tab with the name of an audio device in it
[21:45] <dodger> what's the tab say?
[21:45] <Napoleon__B> dodger: yes..
[21:46] <dodger> http://i50.tinypic.com/faoqbm.jpg
[21:46] <dodger> sort of like this
[21:46] <dodger> i've got one for my onboard nforce audio, and the web cam's microphone
[21:47] <Napoleon__B> dodger: sorry i mean, It says dummy output
[21:47] <dodger> ah
[21:47] <dodger> ok, sounds like it's not recognizing your sound card
[21:48] <dodger> Napoleon__B: go to system settings->multimedia
[21:48] <dodger> in the device preference tab, you should have a device list on the right side, does that list any sound devices?
[21:50] <Napoleon__B> dodger: system settings->multimedia does not exist on my system
[21:51] <dodger> Napoleon__B: no multimedia entry in your system settings? that's odd
[21:51] <dodger> ok, let's see what sound card you have
[21:51] <dodger> open a terminal
[21:52] <Napoleon__B> dodger: system settings-> sound is there.. I have terminal ready.!
[21:52] <dodger> hold on
[21:52] <dodger> ah
[21:53] <dodger> in the sound preferences, i presume you don't see any sound devices either?
[21:54] <dodger> if not, type 'lspci' (without quotes) into the terminal, paste the output into pastebin
[21:57] <kriss3d> Somtimes when i alt tab between World of warcraft and any other program like Firefox in Kubuntu it all freezes up. is there a way to shut down a program built into Ubuntu like Alt Crtl Del is in Windows ?
[21:57] <Napoleon__B> dodger: pastebin.com or?
[21:58] <dodger> Napoleon__B: yes
[21:59] <Napoleon__B> I have posted it under Napoleon__B
[21:59] <dodger> can you paste the link in here?
[22:00] <Napoleon__B> http://pastebin.com/m52ede01a
[22:00] <dodger> thx, ok now let's see
[22:01] <dodger> ok, you've got an intel 8201G integrated audio controller
[22:01] <dodger> gimme a sec, gotta find out what the right driver for that would be ;)
[22:03] <dodger> Napoleon__B: in the terminal, do a 'lsmod | grep snd'
[22:03] <dodger> what's the output of that?
[22:04] <Napoleon__B> http://pastebin.com/d4ebbbe3f
[22:05] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, the correct driver seems to be loaded (it should be the snd_hda_intel)
[22:05] <dodger> so for some reason it's not recognizing your sound card
[22:05] <dodger> you just upgraded to 9.10 you said?
[22:07] <dodger> what do you get from 'uname -a' in the terminal?
[22:08] <Napoleon__B> dodger: no it´s a while ago, november i think, and it workd fine for a couple of weeks..
[22:08] <Napoleon__B> Linux B-power 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:09] <Napoleon__B> dodger: result of uname -a is: Linux B-power 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:09] <dodger> ok, so the kernel seems to be a recent enough one too
[22:10] <dodger> Napoleon__B: take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309811
[22:10] <dodger> especially post #10
[22:11] <dodger> the last 2 steps don't apply since you're on Kubuntu, but the first three still should
[22:11] <Napoleon__B> dodger: how about the alsa mixer, I have tried some things there before..
[22:11] <dodger> let's try, open it up and see what you get
[22:12] <dodger> since you don't seem to get a device at all in the mixer, i'm not sure if that'll help, but it's worth a shot
[22:13] <Napoleon__B> dodger: master is on, but there is no bar..
[22:13] <dodger> are you getting any controls besides master?
[22:14] <dodger> oh, and what does it say in the top left as 'card' and 'chip'?
[22:16] <Napoleon__B> dodger: Card: HDA Intel  - Chip: Realtek ALC861 - View: [Playback] Capture  All - Item: Master
[22:16] <dodger> Napoleon__B: interesting
[22:17] <Napoleon__B> dodger: pcm is on and has a bar..
[22:17] <Napoleon__B> dodger: and so does mic and beep
[22:17] <dodger> i'm a bit stumped, really - it looks like your card is in fact recognized
[22:18] <dodger> it should show up in the kde mixer, too
[22:19] <Napoleon__B> dodger: capture has a bar also but it´s status i 0
[22:20] <dodger> just to be sure i understood correctly, the sound settings in system settings don't show your sound card either, right?
[22:24] <Napoleon__B> dodger: right..!
[22:24] <semisided1> i had some problems with pulse audio sime time ago
[22:25] <semisided1> you need to really dig around
[22:25] <dodger> semisided1: maybe removing pulse completely would help in his case?
[22:25] <semisided1> no
[22:25] <semisided1> i did not have to do that
[22:26] <semisided1> did you try to run the pulse audio config applet?
[22:27] <Napoleon__B> dodger: there is also no input sound.. but maybe removing pulse audio is the way to go, should I do that from synaptic?
[22:27] <Napoleon__B> pulse audio config applet?
[22:27] <dodger> Napoleon__B: hold on, let's see if maybe it is something in the pulse configuration first
[22:28] <semisided1> i am looking for the name of the pulse audio config applet
[22:28] <dodger> Napoleon__B: try to run 'padevchooser' from KRunner (ALT+F2, then 'padevchooser' and hit return
[22:28] <semisided1> but i am on fresh install and it is not here
[22:28] <semisided1> that sound like it
[22:29] <semisided1> huh, padevchooser is not even on this fresh install
[22:29] <dodger> semisided1: padevchooser and pavucontrol both bring up the same system tray applet for me
[22:29] <semisided1> ok
[22:30] <semisided1> i had a hard time with an audio problem on my last install but this one had no problems
[22:30] <Napoleon__B> dodger: it wont open 'padevchooser' it says unknown place..
[22:31] <dodger> i haven't had any issues with audio in a long time... and i think i happen to be one of the few people that really like pulse
[22:31] <semisided1> i dont mind pulse, it worked for me
[22:31] <dodger> Napoleon__B: do a search in synaptic for 'pulse' and see if you have any of it installed
[22:31] <semisided1> i like that multiple apps can share the audio
[22:32] <dodger> semisided1: the functionality is great - being able to move streams between devices live, and even across the network is totally awesome
[22:32] <dodger> the UI on the other hand leaves a lot to be desired
[22:32] <semisided1> it was a bit of a maze
[22:33] <semisided1> i just added using apt-get install padevchooser
[22:33] <semisided1> and am looking around now
[22:33] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I have pulse audio version 1.0.9.19 installd.
[22:33] <semisided1> pavucontrol
[22:33] <semisided1> ?
[22:34] <semisided1> did you try that applet
[22:35] <Napoleon__B> pavucontrol? It wont run either..
[22:35] <semisided1> i was a bit irritated by all the squaking about pulse audio, because it has always been my opinion that the audio needed reworking in linux, this sort of thing takes time
[22:35] <semisided1> really
[22:35] <semisided1> huh
[22:35] <dodger> Napoleon__B: try running sudo aptitude install pavucontrol padevchooser
[22:35] <dodger> Napoleon__B: you can install them from synaptic too, but terminal is faster ;)
[22:36] <semisided1> apt-get is the only way to go imho
[22:36] <dodger> semisided1: it is if you know exactly what you're looking for
[22:37] <dodger> dodger: and if you're familiar with the terminal ;)
[22:37] <Napoleon__B> I´d heard aptitude is the way to go :)  But I am installing it right now..
[22:37] <dodger> Napoleon__B: once you've got those two packages installed, you should be able to run padevchooser
[22:38] <dodger> Napoleon__B: if it works for you anything like it does for me, it should pop up a new icon in the system tray
[22:38] <Napoleon__B> dodger: you got that right ;-)
[22:39] <dodger> Napoleon__B: left click on that icon will open a menu, one of the entries should be 'Volume Control'
[22:39] <dodger> Napoleon__B: with an 'output devices' tab
[22:40] <v6lur> can i make kde (3.5.10 @ hardy) see a usb mp3 player, which it currently doesn't see?
[22:40] <v6lur> that is, kde doesn't show the "found new media, what to do with it?" dialog, but the device is detected by system and can be mounted manually (but i rather wouldn't do that :)
[22:41] <dodger> Napoleon__B: is it showing you any devices in the output devices tab?
[22:42] <Napoleon__B> dodger: yes the same "dummy output" as before
[22:42] <dodger> :/
[22:43] <EagleScreen> v6lur: you may want to add a reference to that device in your /etc/fstab
[22:43] <segz> Is it a known problem with kubuntu 9.10 kernel 2.6.31-16 to not have the usual tty's anymore? (ctrl alt F1-6)?
[22:43] <segz> all i get are blank screens
[22:44] <dodger> Napoleon__B: i'm sort of out of ideas
[22:44] <EagleScreen> it is a common problem in all ubuntu releases, lol, but it is intermitent
[22:44] <dodger> anyone else have any suggestions?
[22:44] <segz> EagleScreen that was for me?
[22:44] <EagleScreen> yes segz
[22:44] <segz> ok if there a fix for it yet?
[22:44] <EagleScreen> is it happening always for you?
[22:45] <segz> aye every reboot
[22:45] <segz> Nvidia gfx card
[22:45] <segz> using kdm
[22:45] <Napoleon__B> dodger: if I choose hardware it turns up blank, and when I choose virtual it shows "dummy output" maby I should try reinstalling pulse?
[22:45] <EagleScreen> segz: using restricted driver or free driver?
[22:45] <segz> restricted
[22:45] <dodger> Napoleon__B: you can definitely try that
[22:45] <segz> never had problems with them though
[22:45] <EagleScreen> segz: do you want usplash?
[22:46] <segz> usplash is the splash screen during boot ?
[22:46] <dodger> Napoleon__B: try uninstalling with sudo aptitude purge [all pulseaudio packages]
[22:46] <segz> if i remember
[22:46] <EagleScreen> yes
[22:46] <segz> not really, it's just fancy
[22:46] <dodger> Napoleon__B: that will remove all configuration files pulse has, too, just in case they're b0rked
[22:46] <segz> does the splash fuck things up? :o
[22:46] <EagleScreen> firtly, try disabling usplash, segz
[22:46] <dodger> Napoleon__B: [all pulseaudio packages] means of course a list of the pulseaudio packages you have installed
[22:47] <EagleScreen> usplash is one of the piezes of software most unstable
[22:47] <segz> i tried reverting x11-common packages to ubuntu7 instead of ubuntu10
[22:47] <segz> and using kernel -14
[22:47] <segz> as a bug report told me
[22:47] <segz> but that didnt help either :P
[22:47] <EagleScreen> segz: do you use backports repository? (hardy-backports)
[22:48] <dodger> Napoleon__B: and then install them again
[22:48] <v6lur> EagleScreen: will that make it appear under the "storage devices" kicker applett? since it's a player, i'd like the ability to remove it from there...
[22:48] <segz> no
[22:48] <segz> all karmic
[22:48] <EagleScreen> v6lur: i think yes
[22:48] <dodger> Napoleon__B: wish i had a better suggestion, but at this point i'm not sure what's going on
[22:48] <Napoleon__B> dodger: Is it done, should i use "sudo aptitude install pulse" or?
[22:48] <EagleScreen> sorry segz karmic-bacports isntead?
[22:48] <dodger> Napoleon__B: once youve purged the packages
[22:49] <segz> nope
[22:49] <segz> i use some PPA ones though
[22:49] <segz> but removed usplash for now, rebooting
[22:49] <segz> errrr :P
[22:49] <segz> my laptop that is
[22:49] <segz> :)
[22:49] <dodger> Napoleon__B: yes, reinstall them with 'sudo aptitude install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils padevchooser pavucontrol'
[22:49] <FloodBotK3> segz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <EagleScreen> okay segz
[22:49] <segz> lets continue in PM?
[22:50] <EagleScreen> better here segz
[22:50] <segz> FloodBotK3 dont like me ;)
[22:50] <segz> gah
[22:50] <segz> fsck
[22:50] <segz> oh wow, it boots quicker without usplash now
[22:51] <segz> no tty though
[22:51] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I have purged pulse as you said, but I can see pavucontrol is still installd, should I still run the "sudo string you just gave me?
[22:52] <dodger> Napoleon__B: you may want to purge pavucontrol and padevchooser as well
[22:52] <EagleScreen> segz, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and set a good config for your machine
[22:52] <dodger> Napoleon__B: i don't *think* they're going to mess things up, but if you're going to do a clean install of pulse, might as well ;)
[22:52] <boss> hello
[22:53] <segz> EagleScreen: reboot?
[22:53] <EagleScreen> segz: try with other fonts ans sizes for the console
[22:54] <EagleScreen> reboot to be sure the chagnes are applied
[22:54] <segz> no tty :P
[22:54] <segz> trying other font
[22:54] <EagleScreen> segz: try fonts VGA and Terminus, and try with different sizes
[22:55] <segz> EagleScreen, i do see a _ cursor :)
[22:55] <segz> just no prompt
[22:55] <segz> to login
[22:55] <Napoleon__B> dodger: could it be nessesary to reboot before I install it again?
[22:55] <dodger> Napoleon__B: you shouldn't have to
[22:56] <dodger> Napoleon__B: after reinstalling pulse, you may want to, however
[22:56] <wind-rider> hi
[22:57] <wind-rider> i have some hotkeys which are not mapped to any X keysym
[22:57] <wind-rider> is there a way i could do that?
[22:57] <EagleScreen> segz: do you know what version of your nvidia restricted kernel are you using?
[22:58] <EagleScreen> segz: do you know what version of your nvidia restricted kernel module are you using?
[22:58] <wind-rider> i'd like to do it in a way that other people won't have the same problem as me
[22:58] <segz> 185.18.36
[22:58] <segz> well
[22:58] <segz> thats the opengl version string
[22:58] <Napoleon__B> dodger: Allright, it is now installd, I´ll try to reboot before checkin if it works, be back in 5 and tell how it went :-) Thanks for now..
[22:58] <dodger> Napoleon__B: np
[23:00] <wind-rider> it looks like xorg.conf is gone
[23:00] <EagleScreen> segz: are you using nvidia-185-kernel-source package?
[23:01] <segz> using default restricted karmic package yes if i remember
[23:01] <segz> 2 secs
[23:01] <segz> aye
[23:01] <mofa> wind-rider: when you press a key that is not mapped, does dmesg provide any details?
[23:01] <segz> 185.18.36-0ubuntu9
[23:02] <wind-rider> mofa: xev reports this: keycode 192 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)
[23:02] <wind-rider> for the mode button of my VAIO hotkeys
[23:03] <wind-rider> mofa: i'm sorry, 191 for the mode button; 192 for the fifth hotkey and 193 for the settings key
[23:04] <h4p0> hi guys!
[23:04] <wind-rider> mofa: the first four are correctly mapped to XF86Launch1 - XF86Launch4
[23:04] <mofa> wind-rider: if xev recognizes it then all you have to do is assign the keycodes to a keysym
[23:04] <wind-rider> mofa: but i'd like to map the other ones so that i can use them in a qt program
[23:05] <wind-rider> mofa: that's right, but i'm wondering how to do that
[23:05] <segz> EagleScreen? :O
[23:05] <grimreaper> hi all
[23:05] <mofa> wind-rider: create file ~/.Xmodmap
[23:05] <wind-rider> and if i would like to do it globally
[23:05] <wind-rider> ?
[23:06] <mofa> wind-rider: each line in the file should have the format "keycode TheKeyCode = TheKeySym"
[23:06] <wind-rider> mofa: i'd like to create a bug report with a patch so other kubuntu users won't have the same problem
[23:07] <h4p0> hi ! I've a problem with crypsetup
[23:08] <EagleScreen> segz: it is probably an error caused by your graphivs driver + ubuntu system configuration
[23:08] <wind-rider> mofa: but i can't find any configuration files etc, or are they hardcoded?
[23:09] <EagleScreen> segz: if ttys are important for you, try updating graphics driver or changing Linux distribution
[23:09] <mofa> wind-rider: is what hardcoded?
[23:09] <segz> i wanted to update me gfx driver
[23:09] <segz> but it insist that i dont have X running :P
[23:09] <Napoleon__B> dodger: there is still no hardware pressent, how about removing alsa, is that an option?
[23:09] <wind-rider> mofa: i was wondering where the other key mappings are, so that i just could add the new ones there
[23:09] <segz> thats why i needed a tty
[23:09] <wind-rider> mofa: so that i could create a patch
[23:09] <mofa> wind-rider: X automatically detects them
[23:10] <mofa> wind-rider: but sometimes there are unusual keyboards, like you have
[23:10] <wind-rider> mofa: but why are the first four hotkeys correctly detected and the fifth not, and the settings and mode button
[23:10] <grimreaper__> io
[23:10] <mofa> wind-rider: i dont know, that depends on the keyboard
[23:10] <wind-rider> mofa: ok, but i'd like to change that upstream
[23:12] <wind-rider> mofa: is that possible?
[23:12] <EagleScreen> or segz, the if you don't use X, you need tty's, sure
[23:12] <mofa> wind-rider: you'll need to speak with the X11 developers about that
[23:12] <wind-rider> ok, allright
[23:12] <wind-rider> mofa: thx for thinking along
[23:12] <EagleScreen> segz: have you at least, one tty, or any?
[23:13] <segz> nothing
[23:13] <segz> only X
[23:13] <segz> i blacklisted the nvidia module now
[23:13] <mofa> wind-rider: when you have created the .Xmodmap file, logout and login again, and see if your keys work.
[23:13] <segz> dexconf'ed my X11 Xorg.conf
[23:13] <segz> still nothing
[23:13] <Napoleon__B> I still have no hardware pressent for sound on my laptop, is reinstaling alsa an option??
[23:13] <rizwan> hello everyone4
[23:13] <IDlucas> hello, im using kubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) and i have not succed to change the DPI to 107, anyone can help me?
[23:13] <wind-rider> mofa: x11 loads them automatically?
[23:14] <EagleScreen> segz: is your computer a server?
[23:14] <segz> laptop
[23:14] <rizwan> i cant seem to find a way to enable the "Mobile Broadband" tab in kde network control panel
[23:14] <mofa> wind-rider: im not sure exactly. if not, you'll need to call xmodmap /path/to/your/xmodmap/file each time you login
[23:14] <EagleScreen> segz: i think now i understand, you need tty's because you broken your X config
[23:14] <segz> X works fine
[23:14] <segz> even 3d works fine
[23:15] <segz> i just wanted to update my drivers
[23:15] <segz> and find my TTY's missing
[23:15] <segz> :D
[23:15] <segz> which did work a few weeks ago
[23:15] <segz> and i didnt do nothing than upgrade packages
[23:15] <EagleScreen> segz: you can update drivers in X session
[23:15] <rizwan> A work around to use gnome's panel exists but I would rather stick with the kde thing.
[23:15] <rizwan> any one?
[23:15] <segz> EagleScreen, no the downloaded drivers from nvidia requires me to shutdown X
[23:16] <segz> the install wont even continue otherwise
[23:16] <segz> :P
[23:16] <dodger> Napoleon__B: you can try reinstalling the alsa packages, but i'm not sure it'll help
[23:16] <EagleScreen> segz: i will come back in a minute
[23:16] <segz> np
[23:17] <wind-rider> mofa: thanks for your help :) i'll ask further in #xorg-devel
[23:17] <IDlucas> hello, im using kubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) and i have not succed to change the DPI to 107, anyone can help me?
[23:18] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I tried sudo aptitude purge [all pulseaudio packages]  but it does´nt seem to work..
[23:18] <dodger> Napoleon__B: what do you mean doesn't work?
[23:18] <dodger> what's it say?
[23:21] <Napoleon__B> dodger: it can´t find "alsa"  I tried to type "alsamixer" instead but no luck..
[23:21] <dodger> Napoleon__B: i don't think alsa itself is the problem - alsamixer finds your sound card, afterall
[23:21] <dodger> try this
[23:22] <dodger> Napoleon__B: in a terminal, type 'aplay' followed by the name of an audio file
[23:22] <EagleScreen> segz: that is stranger, do they still use xorg.conf
[23:23] <segz> huh?
[23:23] <dodger> Napoleon__B: really, any file will work, we're just trying to get *something* coming out of the speakers ;)
[23:23] <segz> i dont have a xorg.conf at the moment so
[23:24] <segz> :)
[23:24] <dodger> even if it's just noise
[23:24] <EagleScreen> segz: did you removed it by hand?
[23:24] <segz> i renamed the old nvidia working one
[23:24] <segz> so i could test the standard
[23:24] <segz> made by dexconf
[23:25] <segz> dexconf usually configured X as it did if a system was freshly installed
[23:25] <segz> seems it doesnt make a xorg.conf at the moment anymore
[23:25] <EagleScreen> do u mean defconf?
[23:25] <EagleScreen> debconf?
[23:25] <EagleScreen> xorg.conf usage is deprecated
[23:25] <segz> dexconf uses debconf data
[23:25] <segz> anyways
[23:26] <segz> im using vesa at the moment :P
[23:26] <segz> still no tty's
[23:26] <EagleScreen> you can do cheat and lie to nvidia installer to it thins there isnt X session
[23:26] <segz> remove the auth file? :o
[23:26] <Napoleon__B> dodger: it is playing, but no real sound..
[23:27] <dodger> Napoleon__B: you mean you are getting sound from your speakers?
[23:27] <segz> but still, i never updated the nvidia driver, and my tty's were working a few weeks ago :D
[23:27] <EagleScreen> segz: may scripts just check DISPLAY variable to know if there is an active X session, try setting it to blank ("")
[23:27] <segz> doesnt smell like a driver problem to me
[23:28] <Napoleon__B> dodger: here is what it writes:  aplay gg.wma
[23:28] <Napoleon__B> Playing raw data 'gg.wma' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
[23:28] <EagleScreen> try DISPLAY="" before running the installer script
[23:28] <dodger> Napoleon__B: do you hear anything from your speakers?
[23:28] <segz> EagleScreen: what does your runlevel command say
[23:28] <segz> unknown here
[23:29] <segz> shouldnt that be something like 'N 2'?
[23:29] <EagleScreen> sorry, segz runlevel say about waht?
[23:29] <Napoleon__B> dodger: no, and I also tried inserting my headphones with the same results..
[23:29] <dodger> hmm
[23:29] <segz> :o
[23:29] <segz> i dont have a /etc/inittab file
[23:30] <dodger> Napoleon__B: try running 'speaker-test -c2' from the terminal
[23:30] <segz> or wait
[23:30] <segz> thats a old post :)
[23:30] <jgt157> can anyone here assist with a wicd problem?
[23:31] <IDlucas> hello, im using kubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) and i have not succed to change the DPI to 107, anyone can help me?
[23:32] <EagleScreen> segz: /etc/inittab is provided by sysvinit, Ubuntu uses Upstart instead
[23:32] <segz> yea
[23:32] <segz> i just learned that
[23:32] <segz> :P
[23:32] <EagleScreen> segz: why dont you try with a Debian system? your ttys may work well there
[23:33] <segz> debian is too outdated for a macbook pro 5,3 :)
[23:34] <Napoleon__B> dodger: It´s still running, here is the result so far:  http://pastebin.com/d51ab73b7
[23:34] <dodger> Napoleon__B: it'll keep running, just press CTRL+C to stop it
[23:35] <EagleScreen> segz: that depends on what Debian branch you use
[23:35] <segz> dont wanna use sid :P
[23:35] <segz> had some ugly adventures with sid in the past
[23:35] <mkraus> hey guys! I need help... I want to burn a .iso image with k3b, but it doesn't work, because "das gerät versteht das medium nicht"
[23:35] <segz> :)
[23:35] <EagleScreen> testing (currently squeeze) may be good
[23:36] <dodger> Napoleon__B: nothing at all from your speakers i take it?
[23:36] <EagleScreen> or segz, you can try OpenSuse out
[23:36] <segz> i wanna stay debian based :D
[23:36] <EagleScreen> then segz, continue in your Ubuntu wothout tty's by the moment
[23:37] <segz> just got em working now :D
[23:37] <segz> hahah
[23:37] <Napoleon__B> correct..
[23:37] <segz> EagleScreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/461725
[23:37] <dodger> Napoleon__B: what do you get from 'aplay -l' ?
[23:37] <segz> this hinted me :)
[23:38] <segz> i had disabled my lo adapter
[23:38] <segz> to get network manager running for wired connections
[23:39] <Napoleon__B> http://pastebin.com/d450469b
[23:40] <e_t_> mkraus: does your computer have a CD writer? And do you have a writable CD in the drive?
[23:40] <mkraus> both confirmed ;)
[23:41] <dodger> Napoleon__B: gimme a sec, looking up something
[23:41] <e_t_> mkraus: can you read discs from the drive?
[23:42] <mkraus> yes ;)
[23:42] <mkraus> it allways worked :/
[23:44] <e_t_> mkraus: the Google translation of your error message is "the device knows no medium". I assume this means k3b doesn't know what to do with the disc. You might try reinstalling k3b, or try another burning program like Brasero.
[23:45] <mkraus> http://cl1p.net/k3b
[23:45] <mkraus> thats the complete text
[23:45] <dodger> Napoleon__B: in the terminal, do a 'cat ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf'
[23:45] <Napoleon__B> mkraus: Brasero works fine for me when burning iso..
[23:46] <dodger> Napoleon__B: what's the output of that?
[23:47] <Napoleon__B> dodger:  No such file or directory
[23:47] <dodger> Napoleon__B: that may actually explain a lot - now let's try this:
[23:47] <dodger> Napoleon__B: cat ~/.asoundrc
[23:48] <Napoleon__B> dodger: the same..
[23:48] <dodger> Napoleon__B: did you notice the . in front of the name?  these are hidden files, so they have a . as their first character
[23:49] <Napoleon__B> dodger should i be in a special folder perhaps?
[23:50] <dodger> Napoleon__B: no, the ~/ means it'll look for the file in your home folder, which is where it should be
[23:51] <Napoleon__B> dodger: allright I added a . and here is what I got back:  Skrivebord$ .cat ~/.asoundrc
[23:51] <Napoleon__B> No command '.cat' found, but there are 18 similar ones
[23:51] <Napoleon__B> .cat: command not found
[23:51] <dodger> Napoleon__B: not in front of the 'cat', but in front of the 'asoundrc'
[23:52] <dodger> ok, i can see you had that
[23:53] <dodger> how about 'cat /etc/asound.conf' ?
[23:53] <dodger> without . in front this time
[23:54] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I wrote:  cat ~/.asoundrc   and I get back:  cat: /home/z/.asoundrc: No such file or directory
[23:56] <Napoleon__B> dodger: cat: /etc/asound.conf: No such file or directory
[23:56] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, so it should just choose the first card/device it finds, which is your internal sound card's analog output
[23:58] <dodger> Napoleon__B: i don't know what's wrong - from all i can see, the hardware should work - but as i said, i'm not necessarily an expert on alsa and audio hardware
[23:58] <dodger> Napoleon__B: does it work when you boot from the 9.10 live cd?