| micahg | cjohnston: just because a bug also occurs on another OS doesn't make it invalid | 00:09 |
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| micahg | cjohnston: wishlist done | 00:10 |
| cjohnston | wishlist bug 501150 | 00:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 501150 in xterm "Merge xterm 251-1 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501150 | 00:27 |
| jibel | cjohnston, bug 501150 is a merge request. | 00:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 501150 in xterm "Merge xterm 251-1 (main) from Debian testing (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501150 | 00:44 |
| jibel | cjohnston, you'd better leave them alone unless you know what you're doing. | 00:45 |
| jibel | cjohnston, you can find information about those special report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Special%20types%20of%20bugs | 00:45 |
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| anon^_^ | anyone familiar with Ubuntu bug squad member afflux? | 07:27 |
| anon^_^ | trying to reach him, but doesn't appear he's been active since Jan, 2009 | 07:27 |
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| Yos | resuming from hibernate <-- what package would that come under? | 08:25 |
| qense | Is it up to the application to fill the bookmark list of GtkFileChooser? And wasn't there a new feature in Qt/KDE applications that makes them use the GtkFileChooser dialogue when GNOME is running? | 10:51 |
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| PrototypeX29A | hi, i would like to file a bug report for the user manager in the adminstration-menu, but i do not know the name of the package | 13:43 |
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| PrototypeX29A | cu | 13:47 |
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| cyan-spam | hello all. got a question about policy here | 17:47 |
| hggdh | cyan-spam: please ask | 17:48 |
| cyan-spam | i'm experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/474990 and am working on debugging it | 17:50 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 474990 in linux "[Hewlett-Packard Presario R4000 (PX353UA#ABA)] suspend/resume failure" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:50 |
| cyan-spam | i'm not the original reporter, but am pretty sure the guy has the same issue as me. am i free to muck around with the report (eg, change the package)? | 17:51 |
| cyan-spam | or should i file a different report? | 17:51 |
| hggdh | well | 17:51 |
| hggdh | if your hardware is *exactly* the same as the reporter, then you could use this bug | 17:52 |
| hggdh | otherwise, better to open a new bug | 17:52 |
| hggdh | BTW, why would you change the package? If it is a suspend/resume issue, it is the kernel | 17:52 |
| cyan-spam | i think it's actually a bug in an x driver | 17:52 |
| cyan-spam | i can't reproduce using pm-suspend from a VT | 17:52 |
| hggdh | oh | 17:52 |
| hggdh | hum | 17:53 |
| cyan-spam | and i can also reproduce same hang just by switching VTs | 17:53 |
| cyan-spam | though less often | 17:53 |
| hggdh | then I think it might be a better idea, really, to open a new bug -- and reference this one -- under X | 17:53 |
| cyan-spam | ok sounds good. thank you! | 17:53 |
| hggdh | cyan-spam: welcome, and thank you for heping | 17:53 |
| cyan-spam | hggdh: sure thing. by the way, do you know the recommended way of generating an xorg.conf these days? so i can play around with different drivers? | 17:55 |
| hggdh | cyan-spam: at least for me, I can look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and get the default config from there (it is printed out in the log) | 17:56 |
| hggdh | then just create /etc/X11/xorg.conf based on the default, and adjust as needed | 17:56 |
| hggdh | this is what I did right now, on Lucid, to get X working again | 17:56 |
| hggdh | (bloody ATI driver is segv-ing) | 17:57 |
| hggdh | btw, time to find out if it is a known issue | 17:59 |
| cyan-spam | hggdh: ok, found it. thanks again | 17:59 |
| cyan-spam | i wish there was a bit more documentation on how xorg config works these days. i find the wiki pages are all mixed up about it | 18:01 |
| hggdh | it is changing a lot, lately... volunteers are welcome to update the docs ;-) | 18:11 |
| cyan-spam | hehe | 18:13 |
| cyan-spam | too bad volunteers need to know the information first! | 18:13 |
| hggdh | heh | 18:13 |
| slacker_nl | hello | 18:32 |
| PrototypeX29A | hi | 18:32 |
| slacker_nl | have a problem on jaunty, bugs 384550/350562 are fix released but not for Jaunty, I still have the bug | 18:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 384550 in gdesklets "[jaunty] gdesklets should depend on python2.5 - fails to start with Could not launch 'gDesklets'" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384550 | 18:33 |
| slacker_nl | do i reopen them? | 18:33 |
| hggdh | slacker_nl: you can nominate it for Jaunty | 18:36 |
| slacker_nl | hggdh: k | 18:41 |
| PrototypeX29A | is there a specified behaviour for users-admin? | 18:45 |
| PrototypeX29A | i don't think it is behaving correctly | 18:45 |
| hggdh | PrototypeX29A: please explain | 18:48 |
| PrototypeX29A | hggdh: my standard-user is not shown, and it definetely exists as i can log in | 18:49 |
| PrototypeX29A | so i am assuming, there is an error, but i can't be sure as there is no specification for the behaviour of "users-admin" | 18:50 |
| PrototypeX29A | hggdh: and for sure users-admin does not usually list all existing users in /etc/shadow | 18:51 |
| hggdh | PrototypeX29A: what version of Ubuntu? Here I can see my account on users-admin | 18:53 |
| PrototypeX29A | it is Karmic, but i don't have this problem with all my 9.10s only with this one | 18:54 |
| PrototypeX29A | so there are two possibilities a) it's a bug, b) my system is messed up | 18:55 |
| hggdh | I personally tend to (b) ;-) | 18:55 |
| hggdh | try creating a new account, for tests, and then login to it, and try there | 18:55 |
| PrototypeX29A | i would tend to (b) to, but i cannot say it for sure, as these are not distinguishable without a spec :) | 18:57 |
| hggdh | users-admin should, by default, show all user accounts | 18:57 |
| hggdh | but, no system ones. You would have to change a setting on gconf to get the system accounts | 18:58 |
| PrototypeX29A | there are a lot of users, which are not really meant to login an, like, gdm, uucp, haldeamon etc. | 18:58 |
| PrototypeX29A | gconf? | 18:59 |
| hggdh | these are the system users | 18:59 |
| PrototypeX29A | is it possible users-admin mistakes my account for a system account? | 18:59 |
| hggdh | might, if your account id is less than 1000 | 19:01 |
| hggdh | which would mean you created it manually | 19:02 |
| PrototypeX29A | no, i did not | 19:02 |
| hggdh | but, on a terminal, run 'id' -- this will print out the user, ids, and groups | 19:03 |
| PrototypeX29A | it's 1000 | 19:03 |
| hggdh | so it should be shown | 19:04 |
| PrototypeX29A | then i will consider it a bug :) | 19:05 |
| PrototypeX29A | which package does it belong to | 19:05 |
| PrototypeX29A | can't find a package for users-admin | 19:05 |
| hggdh | gnome-system-tools | 19:07 |
| hggdh | (dpkg -L users-admin will show the package) | 19:08 |
| PrototypeX29A | it does not recognize -L as a parameter | 19:10 |
| hggdh | darn, typo... it is -S | 19:14 |
| PrototypeX29A | will every user get its own group? | 19:16 |
| PrototypeX29A | i tried to add a user "gast" and got the errp | 19:16 |
| PrototypeX29A | error group "gast" already exists | 19:16 |
| hggdh | yes, every new user will have a group with the same name | 19:17 |
| PrototypeX29A | if i add a new user it will appear in /etc/shadows but not in the users-admin list | 19:19 |
| PrototypeX29A | only "root" | 19:19 |
| PrototypeX29A | but this problem will not be reproduceable | 19:20 |
| hggdh | did you try to login under a brand new userid? | 19:21 |
| PrototypeX29A | and then? | 19:21 |
| PrototypeX29A | i can login as the new user, but it is not shown as an option in the login-menu | 19:22 |
| hggdh | then try to run users-admin | 19:25 |
| PrototypeX29A | the same effect | 19:25 |
| PrototypeX29A | i only can see the root | 19:26 |
| hggdh | un users-admin? | 19:26 |
| hggdh | s/un/on/ | 19:26 |
| PrototypeX29A | yes | 19:26 |
| PrototypeX29A | in /etc/password i can see all users | 19:26 |
| PrototypeX29A | passwd | 19:27 |
| PrototypeX29A | does users-admin use /etc/passwd as base for its representation? | 19:28 |
| hggdh | I have not looked at the code, but I would expect /etc/passwd would be used somewhere along the search | 19:29 |
| PrototypeX29A | i would not know where else it could search | 19:32 |
| hggdh | open a bug, and we will see what happens | 19:33 |
| PrototypeX29A | it will stay unconfirmed forever, i guess :) | 19:33 |
| hggdh | who knows? ;-) but give me the bug # | 19:36 |
| PrototypeX29A | lp #501421 | 19:43 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 501421 in gnome-system-tools "[users-admin] Users-admin will does not show any users except 'root'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501421 | 19:43 |
| hggdh | PrototypeX29A: let's see what happens, but I will give it a try | 19:44 |
| PrototypeX29A | how? :) | 19:44 |
| hggdh | look at the code, and try to imagine what might have gone wrong. But root should not be shown... | 19:44 |
| PrototypeX29A | so then there is a related bug | 19:45 |
| PrototypeX29A | i will try to upload /etc/passwd | 19:45 |
| micahg | should the bug be private then? | 19:46 |
| PrototypeX29A | i don't think this is a security thread, is it? | 19:46 |
| PrototypeX29A | as the password information is stored in /etc/shadows | 19:46 |
| hggdh | not really a security threat, more a potential privacy issue | 19:47 |
| PrototypeX29A | i would not use twitter, if i cared for that stuff :) | 19:48 |
| hggdh | if this was to be a server, with multiple users, I would worry a bit more. But for a personal system, not much is gained, apart from the user name | 19:49 |
| Prototyp1X29A | re | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | I can't install chromium-browser :S it says no candidate version found for chromium-browser | 19:55 |
| MTecknology | !info chromium-browser | 19:56 |
| ubot4 | MTecknology: Package chromium-browser does not exist in karmic | 19:56 |
| MTecknology | :S ... it shows up in aptitude search chromium-browser | 19:56 |
| micahg | MTecknology: it's not in the distro, it's from a PPA | 19:56 |
| MTecknology | micahg: I'm wondering why aot thinks it's available.. | 19:59 |
| micahg | aot? | 19:59 |
| micahg | apt? | 19:59 |
| MTecknology | apt* | 19:59 |
| MTecknology | c chromium-browser - Chromium browser | 19:59 |
| micahg | MTecknology: apt-cache policy chromium-browser | 19:59 |
| MTecknology | Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: 4.0.222.3~svn20091009r28536-0ubuntu1~ucd1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 20:00 |
| micahg | MTecknology: it was probably installed at some point and maybe the PPa was disabled | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | ok | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | thanks | 20:01 |
| micahg | MTecknology: do you need the link to the PPA? | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | nope | 20:02 |
| MTecknology | I'm installing now | 20:03 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: looks the tool uses its own profile data in /etc/gnome-system-tools/users/profile | 20:11 |
| Prototyp1X29A | profiles | 20:11 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hmm no, this is something else. I was suspecting redundant data | 20:11 |
| slacker_nl | when you supply a debdif to a bug report then one would subscribe $someone@u.c ? | 20:13 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: depends what you are trying to do | 20:17 |
| slacker_nl | micahg: created a debdiff for ajaunty package to close 2 bugs | 20:20 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: if it's an SRU, then you need to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 20:20 |
| slacker_nl | lemme have a lok, thnx | 20:21 |
| slacker_nl | look | 20:21 |
| slacker_nl | i think it is sru | 20:23 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: an update to an existing release is an SRU :) | 20:25 |
| slacker_nl | added ubuntu-sru | 20:27 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: these are the default for an adminstrator, Desktop user and common users (which you can set on the users-admin) | 20:29 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: do you have a test case in the description? | 20:31 |
| slacker_nl | micahg: by test case you mean? | 20:32 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: yes, i could not find the part where the actual configs are read | 20:32 |
| slacker_nl | i've changed a dependency because it doesn't start without it | 20:32 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: steps for the QA team to verify your patch fixes the issue in teh specified version | 20:32 |
| slacker_nl | and it builds on my box... | 20:32 |
| slacker_nl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdesklets/+bug/350562 | 20:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 350562 in gdesklets "gdesklets requires python2.5 without package dependency" [Undecided,Fix released] | 20:33 |
| slacker_nl | that's the one | 20:33 |
| slacker_nl | micahg: ^^ | 20:33 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: src/users/users-tool.c ? | 20:35 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: I think that's ok | 20:36 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: oobs_users_config_get()? | 20:37 |
| hggdh | slacker_nl: just a question -- did you verify it to build correctly? Note that simply building on your machine is *not* enough | 20:37 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: yes, thereabout | 20:38 |
| hggdh | slacker_nl: because you may have changed dependencies, and you have them all installed | 20:38 |
| slacker_nl | hggdh: like in a PPA? negative | 20:39 |
| slacker_nl | hggdh: the build depends were correct, but the normal depends were not | 20:39 |
| hggdh | slacker_nl: (1) yes, like a PPA, or a pbuilder; (2) ah, so you just changed the run-time depends? | 20:40 |
| micahg | slacker_nl: actually, SRU usually likes explicit test case, so maybe make a before and after in the description | 20:40 |
| slacker_nl | hggdh: ahh, k, I could do a pbuilder build and/or ppa if they want me too, and yes, it had a dependency for python (which is 2.6 on jaunty) and not 2.5, so i changed python to python2.5 | 20:42 |
| micahg | hggdh: if nothing in the build was changed, then it just needs to be test installed on a stock jaunty system | 20:44 |
| hggdh | micahg: yes, I agree | 20:46 |
| slacker_nl | it happens that I have stock jaunty ;) | 20:49 |
| hggdh | heh | 20:49 |
| hggdh | slacker_nl: BTW, thank you for working on this | 20:50 |
| slacker_nl | np | 20:50 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: the other bug you referred to (root being shown) is at get_users_tool_contructor() | 20:52 |
| porthose | slacker_nl, you may want to try something like python (>=2.5), just an idea :) | 20:53 |
| slacker_nl | porthose: no, since 2.6 won't work | 20:54 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: yes, but is root shown at every instance, or only sometimes at some systems? | 20:57 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: i am not sure whether it is a real bug or just a feature wish | 20:57 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: right now, it is always shown. I do not know if this was the intention, but the code implements a gconf key for it (showroot), which is not yet created | 20:59 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: i am trying to do a command-line listing tool which uses the oobs-library, to isolate the bug | 20:59 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: cool. Please update the bug as needed. It still sounds like something in your setup got mangled, though | 21:00 |
| Prototyp1X29A | yes, but it would help to know what :) | 21:00 |
| Prototyp1X29A | i am under the impression, that only the /etc/passwd should be used as reference for the listing | 21:01 |
| slacker_nl | hggdh/micahg: so no extra stuff for sru, leave it as is? or... | 21:04 |
| hggdh | slacker_nl: I think this is good enough | 21:08 |
| slacker_nl | hggdh: k | 21:08 |
| slacker_nl | thnx for the help | 21:08 |
| slacker_nl | gn all | 21:10 |
| hggdh | gn, slacker_nl | 21:13 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: the showroot part is fixed on GIT, and should land on Lucid on next update | 21:20 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: just got an update, that my bug is a duplicate | 21:23 |
| Prototyp1X29A | lp #210710 | 21:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 210710 in gnome-system-tools "System > Admin > Users and Groups: only root available" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210710 | 21:24 |
| hggdh | yes, Milan is usually very responsive | 21:32 |
| hggdh | run the checks he is asking for, please, this will help | 21:33 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: BTW, please answer on 210710 | 21:33 |
| AntonyS | can I set bug 500487 to confirmed? | 21:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 500487 in gnome-applets "[lucid] volume icon twice in systray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500487 | 21:35 |
| hggdh | AntonyS: if you see the same, yes. Also add a comment about that | 21:36 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: yes i am prepario | 21:37 |
| Prototyp1X29A | preparing a new report right now | 21:37 |
| AntonyS | I haven't, but there are screenshots and one other person responded to say they had | 21:37 |
| hggdh | AntonyS: then please state you are confirming based on the other user's input | 21:37 |
| Prototyp1X29A | hggdh: seems there were bogus entries in /etc/login.defs | 22:08 |
| Prototyp1X29A | thanks for your help, it's working now | 22:09 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: did you add a comment on the bug about that? | 22:10 |
| Prototyp1X29A | sure, it is all documented | 22:10 |
| hggdh | Prototyp1X29A: thank you | 22:12 |
| EagleSn | hi | 22:27 |
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