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* flyback goes to get some caffiene, oh crap the roads are too bad, looks like he will have to rebuild his palm t5 before the party tomarrow, DECAFINATED01:19
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* flyback hey, if I wrap myself around a pole on the way to get a redbull, it's been fun guys :)01:39
zokeI'm not sure on who to complain to but bug 429369 and bug 467841 are really serious02:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 429369 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945GM] No screen(s) found after updgrade to karmic alpha 5" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42936902:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 467841 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "after first splash boot, screen flickers displaying a bunch of drm: failed to restore crtc configuration" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46784102:01
zokethey prevent using karmic on a lot of laptops02:01
zokethe fix is appending i915.modeset=0 to boot options02:01
zokeor moving to the .32 kernel which has it fixed02:02
zokeI have tested that the bug is not present in lucid which is good02:02
zokebut could the fix be back ported to karmic ?02:02
zokea patch is available in bug 46784102:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 467841 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "after first splash boot, screen flickers displaying a bunch of drm: failed to restore crtc configuration" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46784102:03
* flyback http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23w2Jz0xrHE02:21
ibibhi, is there any documentation on using APT's DiffIndex feature from a repo point of view ?02:30
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superm1chrisccoulson, where are we at wrg to bug 497441?  would like to make sure we have something figured out in time for a2. maybe the new patch in bug 484559 and dropping the g-c-c depends to suggests06:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 497441 in mythbuntu "gnome-system-tools 2.29.1-0ubuntu1 is causing all of gnome in Mythbuntu builds" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49744106:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 484559 in gnome-system-tools "Xubuntu: Cannot change own password because users-admin needs gnome-about-me" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48455906:07
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damo22how do i build an ubuntu source package with a .dsc file and orig.tar.gz and diff.gz11:17
damo22pbuilder?11:17
paulliudamo22: Are you in Ubuntu? You can just dpkg-source -x *.dsc and cd <package>-<version> and debuild.11:29
damo22thanks11:30
DktrKranzAre autosyncs for NEW packages from testing still processed, or a manual sync has to be filed?13:01
sebnerDktrKranz: Import freeze is on february 11th13:04
sebnerDktrKranz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule ;P13:04
DktrKranzsebner: I knew, but I don't see some packages yet, so I was curious :)13:06
sebnerDktrKranz: psst, archive admins are lazy .. psssst13:06
sitsA quick question - what is going to happen to nvidia-graphics-drivers-71 as it seems that NVIDIA will not be updating it to support newer versions of xorg?13:24
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blackxored /join #ubuntu-offtopic14:16
blackxoredsorry14:16
Tm_Taww14:16
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chrisccoulsonhi superm1 - i've not started to look at bug 497441 yet. we can't use the patch in bug 484559, as users-admin was re-written completely for 2.29.x version of g-s-t, so the patch needs to be adapted for the new version14:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 497441 in mythbuntu "gnome-system-tools 2.29.1-0ubuntu1 is causing all of gnome in Mythbuntu builds" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49744114:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 484559 in gnome-system-tools "Xubuntu: Cannot change own password because users-admin needs gnome-about-me" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48455914:30
chrisccoulsonbut i can do this for a214:30
chrisccoulsonthat shouldn't be a problem for me14:30
kblinhi folks14:33
kblinassuming I wanted to build a version of current ubuntu on an unsupported architecture, how would I do that?14:42
asackblin: what arch?14:45
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kblinasac: armv5.. :)14:47
kblinI know I could just go and use debian for this, it's more a question of how many hoops you need to jump through for a karmic armv5 rebuild as opposed to switching distros14:52
Tm_Tkblin: might be just matter of rebuild if lucky14:56
sbalneavHmmm, I'm having a problem with Sabayon and gksu interaction.  I've done a huge amount of work on sabayon for Lucid.  It started fine under gksu for Karmic, and it starts fine under sudo for karmic and lucid, but fails when started under gksu on lucid. anyone else having any problems with, or is an expert on, gksu?  I've got other stuff I need to work on for edubuntu, and would rather not have to fix gksu if someone else is alr14:57
kblinTm_T: that's what I was hoping. I've just never built ubuntu from scratch. what's the best way of doing that?14:59
highvoltagekblin: there are plenty of wiki pages explaining how to do that, both from scratch and from an existing disc15:03
blackxoredsorry about the spam, I want to cross-sign gpg keys with some ubuntu developer, there's anyone here traveling to cuba by the holidays?15:18
kblinhighvoltage: thanks, looking15:23
blackxoredanyone???15:24
blackxoredsorry about the spam, I want to cross-sign gpg keys with some ubuntu developer, there's anyone here traveling to cuba by the holidays?15:41
kblinhighvoltage: there seem to be plenty of wiki pages explaining how to build my own packages, or my own kernel. can't seem to find one for the whole distro :)15:41
ionblackxored: http://biglumber.com/ btw15:44
blackxoredwhat's supposed to be that?15:44
highvoltagekblin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization might be useful to you15:49
kblinhighvoltage: actually I don't think a livecd-based approach will help. I'll have to rebuild all the compiled packages to my arch anyway.. I think a debootstrap-based builder will be the first step, which then builds for the arch.. I'll go read debootstrap docs15:58
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kblinlater, as my family just told me :)16:00
sbalneavah, as someone else just pointed out:16:03
sbalneav(alkisg)16:03
sbalneavgksu gksu ls fails on lucid16:03
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ScottKkblin: IIRC, Debian builds for armv5.  It might be easier to use Debian as a base and then add whatever bits you want that aren't in Debian.16:45
ScottKsbalneav: You should probably be looking at policykit integration, not gksu.  I believe the goal is to not have any default sudo rights in Ubuntu Lucid.16:46
sbalneavScottK: As an upstream for sabayon, it runs on linuxes that don't currently support PK.  And I don't see the point in re-writing large chunks of an app to accommodate not fixing somtheing that SHOULD work.16:51
sebnerbdrung_: mind backporting lintian to karmic once your 2.3 merge has been uploaded? :)16:56
lamontso how do I convince firefox to NOT &^(%)^_*(^_*( TAKE FOCUS just because it finished rendering a page?16:58
lamontwith metacity as a window manager16:59
asaclamont: thtas happening if the webpage takes focus. known bug. disabling javascript should help ;)17:08
asachttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14034617:17
ubottuMozilla bug 140346 in Tracking "focus stealing tracking bug" [Normal,New]17:17
lamontah. ok.17:28
lamontthen my only remaining pain is "why did upgrading to karmic make network manager decide that eth0 should be unmanaged"17:29
lamontthough that one is gonna be a "boot the livecd and see what _that_ does" first17:29
bdrung_sebner: no. it's a good idea.17:37
sebnerbdrung_: great, thanks :)17:38
bdrung_sebner: is there something special to know about backporting?17:39
sebnerbdrung_: as long as it builds, I don't think so ^^ but there is a wiki page somewhere17:40
bdrung_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports17:40
sebnerright17:40
sebner^^17:40
asaclamont: eth0 being in e/n/interfaces would do that17:43
lamontpretty sure I've done it commented out, removed, with "auto eth0" there and gone17:55
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sbalneavScottK: looks like it's going to be kind of hard to convert to polkit-1 when there's no python bindings for it.21:12
sbalneavGuess I'll have to fix gksu21:12
chrisccoulsonsbalneav - we already have other python apps on the desktop using polkit-121:16
chrisccoulsoncheck jockey for example21:17
sbalneavchrisccoulson: looked at that.  it's talking raw dbus21:20
chrisccoulsonsbalneav - jockey uses the org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority interface directly21:20
sbalneavno thanks.21:20
chrisccoulsonyes21:20
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