| Moon_Doggy | ubottu xfce panels | 04:45 |
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| Moon_Doggy | anyone hear | 04:46 |
| Moon_Doggy | here | 04:46 |
| balvonas | and what's up with them? | 05:01 |
| Moon_Doggy | they were missing | 05:03 |
| Moon_Doggy | but i got them back | 05:04 |
| Moon_Doggy | but the real question is why | 05:04 |
| balvonas | maybe you started/used some plugin that caused panel crash | 05:04 |
| kainektisis841 | hey i'm an ubuntu user and i'm operating on about an 8 year old machine i think it is not even 1 ghz processor, would i gain anything by switching to xubuntu | 05:05 |
| balvonas | panel can't dissapear itself | 05:05 |
| kainektisis841 | anybody there | 05:06 |
| Moon_Doggy | well i do the same thing with this machine every day | 05:07 |
| balvonas | kainektisis841: well, you will use xfce instead of Gnome | 05:08 |
| Moon_Doggy | turn on, login, start x-chat and chrome , and when i'm done shut down | 05:08 |
| kainektisis841 | what is the difference they look the same | 05:08 |
| kainektisis841 | can't you use the same programs too | 05:08 |
| balvonas | xfce is less fat | 05:08 |
| balvonas | kainektisis841: yes, of course | 05:09 |
| balvonas | you can use same programs | 05:09 |
| kainektisis841 | so theoretically opening and using the internet should work faster on a slower cpu | 05:09 |
| balvonas | xfce is faster then Gnome theoretically | 05:10 |
| balvonas | ;] | 05:10 |
| kainektisis841 | can you run windows programs using linux | 05:11 |
| balvonas | kind of | 05:11 |
| kainektisis841 | what do you mean | 05:11 |
| balvonas | not everything | 05:11 |
| balvonas | you can emulate windows | 05:11 |
| Moon_Doggy | wine | 05:11 |
| balvonas | yes | 05:11 |
| kainektisis841 | is it programs that are more graphically advanced like games that are harder to run | 05:12 |
| balvonas | yes | 05:12 |
| kainektisis841 | i have a lexicon for greek words and it isn't that graphically demanding | 05:12 |
| balvonas | it should work i guess | 05:12 |
| kainektisis841 | does it run itunes | 05:13 |
| balvonas | no it does not | 05:14 |
| balvonas | oh | 05:14 |
| kainektisis84 | sorry guys i got booted from the internet | 05:15 |
| kainektisis84 | does wine run itunes | 05:15 |
| balvonas | no clue | 05:15 |
| balvonas | http://appdb.winehq.org/ | 05:16 |
| balvonas | here's the list of software wine is compatible with | 05:16 |
| kainektisis84 | thanks | 05:18 |
| balvonas | correction | 05:18 |
| balvonas | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&sTitle=Browse%20Applications&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true | 05:18 |
| kainektisis84 | why are .mp3 files supposedly protected | 05:23 |
| kainektisis84 | when i added the support for it it said that it was illegal in some countries | 05:23 |
| ziroday | Hi, trying to access http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/karmic/release/alternate/xubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso I get a forbidden error, where am I supposed to get the alternate i386 .torrent files? | 08:00 |
| ziroday | and so are the desktop images :( | 08:01 |
| psycho_oreos | I'm presuming it doesn't end in .iso, I'm thinking its .torrent or .iso.torrent | 08:01 |
| ziroday | psycho_oreos: yes? | 08:05 |
| ziroday | psycho_oreos: oh I follow now :) | 08:05 |
| psycho_oreos | ziroday, have you tried instead searching for torrents via google? | 08:05 |
| ziroday | psycho_oreos: yes the .iso.torrent files work, however the .iso files don't. I'll file a bug about it now | 08:05 |
| psycho_oreos | ziroday, you mean the iso files downloaded via torrent doesn't work or you mean the link doesn't work? lol | 08:06 |
| ziroday | psycho_oreos: I mean there shouldn't be a link to the .iso file on t.u.c :) | 08:07 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh | 08:07 |
| Goliath | where is the smbpasswd saved at? | 09:31 |
| Tesssa | upgraded 9.4 to 9.10 in 9.4 you could attribute sounds for start up,shutdown and such but not with 9.10 the sound filles seem to have gone any reason why please | 10:26 |
| Tesssa | i use xubuntu | 10:26 |
| Ov3rf10w | lol sound for startup and shutdown xDDD | 10:28 |
| Tesssa | what is xDDD | 10:29 |
| Ov3rf10w | :D | 10:29 |
| Tesssa | not very helpful | 10:30 |
| Ov3rf10w | try this http://titotheman.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/changing-startup-sound-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic/ | 10:31 |
| Tesssa | thank you | 10:31 |
| Ov3rf10w | or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1317785 | 10:33 |
| Ov3rf10w | :) | 10:33 |
| |AbsyntH| | i need to lockdown the autoupdate of grub2 in ubuntu 9.10 ,i need that ubuntu write grub only in the partition and not in the mbr. | 10:36 |
| |AbsyntH| | This is my disks layout: | 10:36 |
| |AbsyntH| | ide0 opensolaris with his grub on the ide mbr (and i start ubuntu with chainloader +1) | 10:36 |
| |AbsyntH| | sata0 xubuntu | 10:36 |
| |AbsyntH| | every time i ugrade ubuntu,it writes its grub2 on mbr of ide0 and i can't boot opensolaris | 10:36 |
| |AbsyntH| | any hints? | 10:37 |
| Ov3rf10w | Tesssa, ? | 10:41 |
| Tesssa | no good | 10:45 |
| Ov3rf10w | shit | 10:45 |
| |AbsyntH| | no solutions? | 10:46 |
| Ov3rf10w | Tesssa, Alert Volume in the Sound Preferences was turned down | 10:46 |
| Ov3rf10w | maybe | 10:46 |
| Ov3rf10w | :) | 10:46 |
| Tesssa | go into settings bring up settings editor and nothing | 10:46 |
| Tesssa | the volume is ok | 10:47 |
| Tesssa | something has been altered in the upgrade | 10:47 |
| Tesssa | it worked perfect in 8.10 and 9.4 | 10:48 |
| |AbsyntH| | Tesssa, your kernel modules are up? | 10:48 |
| Tesssa | whatever has changed has changed in the upgrade | 10:48 |
| Tesssa | the sound card works ok | 10:49 |
| remyo | What make Xubuntu so snappy? And what is it missing from the usual Ubuntu release? | 10:49 |
| Ov3rf10w | karmic is the bad version of xubuntu | 10:49 |
| Tesssa | it does the same in ubuntu 9.10 | 10:49 |
| ablomen | |AbsyntH|, i googled a bit about the grub part, it seems this is not a bug but a feature (tm), the only option i see that may stop it from happening is holding the kernel packages | 10:49 |
| |AbsyntH| | you can try to look for bugs in the kernel release Tesssa | 10:50 |
| remyo | I'm trying Xubuntu right now for the first time. And it seems too good to be true | 10:50 |
| ablomen | so they don't upgrade, not sure though if that is the only package that updates grub | 10:50 |
| remyo | I'm wondering what the catch it | 10:50 |
| remyo | is* | 10:50 |
| ablomen | (oh and hold the grub2 package naturally) | 10:50 |
| Tesssa | havent a clue how to i am not a linux user | 10:50 |
| ablomen | not sure if it will help though | 10:50 |
| |AbsyntH| | ablomen, yes i've seen that...but if i found the script that upgrade automaticallt grub i can change it probably | 10:50 |
| Tesssa | but i do like xubuntu | 10:51 |
| Tesssa | if it was working in 9.4 why alter it | 10:52 |
| ablomen | /usr/sbin/update-grub might be it, it gets executed, dunno if grub-mkconfig installs it to the mbr though | 10:52 |
| Tesssa | the point is is it going to be like that in 10.4 | 10:52 |
| |AbsyntH| | ablomen, tnx i'll take a look | 10:52 |
| slow-motion | hi | 11:07 |
| Ov3rf10w | slow-motion, hi | 11:08 |
| slow-motion | hi Ov3rf10w | 11:08 |
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| vik | hello, my desktop is gone!!! I cannot do anything on it, no idea what happened, no right-click, no icons nothing, please help | 15:05 |
| vik | ok, i've fixed it with 'xfdesktop &', sorry. | 15:07 |
| aberhow | what does xubuntu use for the screen saver by default? | 15:27 |
| aberhow | xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver? | 15:27 |
| Ov3rf10w | gnome-screensaver | 15:27 |
| aberhow | ok thanks Ov3rf10w | 15:28 |
| hal | hello xubuntu world. | 16:33 |
| hal | sweet OS | 16:33 |
| djura-san | yeah :) | 16:33 |
| hal | my laptop loves it. and i have my kids on it too | 16:34 |
| djura-san | my pc love it too | 16:35 |
| djura-san | also my family | 16:35 |
| djura-san | (but i dislike artwork) | 16:35 |
| hal | yes, but thats a small price. | 16:36 |
| djura-san | of cours | 16:36 |
| djura-san | e | 16:36 |
| djura-san | :) | 16:36 |
| hal | i cant say i have had any issues with it. i come here now and then but i dont see any complaints..at least i havent :) | 16:37 |
| djura-san | well the base is good | 16:38 |
| djura-san | and xfce is stable in 95% of time so its good :) | 16:38 |
| hal | yes, i tried ubuntu but its a little too heavy for my comp. | 16:38 |
| oorah | how come thunderbird won't open links for chrome? it only does for firefox, which i removed | 16:41 |
| djura-san | tere is settings for that | 16:42 |
| djura-san | (i think) | 16:42 |
| djura-san | did you changed terminal for exo? | 16:42 |
| oorah | djura-san, i didn't see any i looked | 16:42 |
| djura-san | settings -> default apps? | 16:42 |
| oorah | djura-san, chrome is my default browser, but that didn't work for links in thunderbird | 16:43 |
| djura-san | hmm | 16:43 |
| djura-san | strange | 16:43 |
| djura-san | (let my try) | 16:43 |
| djura-san | yucj | 16:45 |
| djura-san | this tb is so ugly app | 16:45 |
| oorah | huh? | 16:45 |
| djura-san | slow and gui is yuck | 16:46 |
| djura-san | :| | 16:46 |
| hal | why use chrome? | 16:46 |
| oorah | chrome is the fastest browser | 16:48 |
| Sysi | midori is as fast | 16:48 |
| hal | what is the speed of your cpu? | 16:48 |
| Sysi | or arora | 16:48 |
| djura-san | firefox is resurce hog at the moment. midori is fast, and chrome is fast too. | 16:49 |
| djura-san | (midori uses webkit as well as chrome) | 16:49 |
| djura-san | sorry | 16:53 |
| djura-san | tbird does not work at my pc (dont wanna use my acc at gmail) | 16:53 |
| djura-san | :| | 16:53 |
| hal | yes i agree about firefox | 16:53 |
| Sysi | adblock still keeps me on it | 16:53 |
| hal | but i use it anyway | 16:53 |
| djura-san | Sysi, there is way to use adblock rules in midori too | 16:53 |
| Sysi | proxy? | 16:54 |
| djura-san | nope | 16:54 |
| djura-san | adblock-filters.txt > midori ;) | 16:54 |
| djura-san | (never tried it but i will soon since i hate ads) | 16:55 |
| Sysi | i didn't manage to get midori on centos :/ | 16:56 |
| Sysi | haven't tried much though | 16:56 |
| Pres-Gas | Hello, folks! | 17:06 |
| hal | hello Gas | 17:06 |
| djura-san | ola gas | 17:06 |
| Pres-Gas | Busy today? | 17:07 |
| hal | slow as molasses in winter | 17:07 |
| Pres-Gas | Mayhap that means all problems are resolved then. | 17:08 |
| hal | thats what i was thinking too | 17:09 |
| hal | i like that. xubuntu works! | 17:09 |
| djura-san | or none of use use xubuntu at all :> | 17:10 |
| Balsaq | i di and i never even seen it hiccup | 17:10 |
| hal | haha | 17:11 |
| hal | i use it mostly on my laptop | 17:11 |
| Pres-Gas | hmmmm... #ubuntu is too busy though. | 17:15 |
| djura-san | as usual | 17:15 |
| djura-san | ;) | 17:15 |
| hal | i noticed | 17:35 |
| oorah | any desktop email clients that will open browsers other than firefox? for some reason thunderbird opens firefox only | 17:36 |
| hal | i never read what system "oorah" had | 17:38 |
| [mccracken] | Patience in an IRC chan... FTW... | 17:41 |
| slow-motion | hi | 19:36 |
| Pres-Gas | Hey, slow-motion | 19:44 |
| slow-motion | hi | 19:44 |
| linux_stu | i'm trying to figure out why the top and bottom panel on my xubuntu computer aren't appearing when i boot and login | 20:15 |
| linux_stu | and alt + f2 doesn't do anything | 20:16 |
| Balsaq | this prolly sounds dumb but can you adjust the monitor itself (buttons on the monitor front center) ? | 20:17 |
| linux_stu | Balsaq, i did try doing that, and it wasn't off the top and bottom of the screen | 20:18 |
| Balsaq | ok | 20:18 |
| Balsaq | and i suppose a reboot didn't do it either | 20:19 |
| linux_stu | this is on my grandparents' computer, and i'm trying to help them over the phone :( | 20:19 |
| linux_stu | Balsaq, nope | 20:19 |
| linux_stu | every time they reboot, an abiword window pops up. i guess xubuntu remembers your previous session? | 20:19 |
| linux_stu | or maybe they changed startup applications... | 20:20 |
| Balsaq | yes becasue mine doesn't do that | 20:20 |
| linux_stu | yeah | 20:20 |
| TheSheep | clean your session | 20:20 |
| TheSheep | delete the fiels in .cache/sessions | 20:21 |
| linux_stu | ok TheSheep | 20:21 |
| TheSheep | files | 20:21 |
| linux_stu | this should be interesting... getting my grandparents to do this over the phone :/ | 20:21 |
| Balsaq | TheSheep: when i finish using my xubuntu computer, i sometimes utilize bleachbit. does that do the same thing you are mentioning now? | 20:22 |
| TheSheep | no idea | 20:23 |
| Balsaq | when it runs it appears to be doing a ccleaner type of thing..deletes cache and all...its a buntu package | 20:23 |
| c00larr0w | i have a usb drive that is possibly infected with a virus. Is there a good virus scanner that i can run on my xubuntu box to scan the usb drive? | 20:52 |
| TheSheep | no, but you can just delete the autorun file and the hidden directory in which the virus installed intself | 20:54 |
| TheSheep | itself | 20:55 |
| TheSheep | (actually there is clamav, but it's mostly for mail, I think) | 20:55 |
| c00larr0w | im not sure if it infected and so i dont know what virus it may be or where it might be | 20:56 |
| c00larr0w | ya i was thinking the same about clamav | 20:56 |
| Sysi | if there isn't any important data you can format it | 20:56 |
| TheSheep | the autorun.inf file | 20:56 |
| c00larr0w | there is | 20:56 |
| TheSheep | that file contains the path to the actual virus, just look inside | 20:57 |
| TheSheep | then delete it and the virus | 20:57 |
| c00larr0w | i dont see an autorun.inf file on the usb drive | 20:58 |
| c00larr0w | i did an ls and grep it for autorun.inf and it didnt find anything | 21:02 |
| c00larr0w | TheSheep, should i do it differently? | 21:05 |
| Pres-Gas | TheSheep, you can have clamav scan files. I do not remember offhand what the syntax would be...but there is a gui | 21:07 |
| Pres-Gas | Ahhh...here we are. for the GUI: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/clamtk | 21:10 |
| c00larr0w | Pres-Gas, thanks i will look into that. i just want to scan this usb drive before i get plugged into a windows box and infects that box. | 21:11 |
| Pres-Gas | c00larr0w, here is the home page for the front end with more details on it: http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/ | 21:15 |
| TheSheep | hal: why are you messaging people? | 21:15 |
| c00larr0w | Pres-Gas, ok thanks | 21:15 |
| hal | for information. isnt that what this room is about? | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | hal: it's a channel, not room, and it's for support, and we do it publicly, so that everyone can learn and correct mistaks | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | mistakes | 21:18 |
| hal | i'm glad | 21:19 |
| Pres-Gas | LOL, TheSheep....well timed | 21:19 |
| Pres-Gas | There is a bot, hal that loggs all of this chatter and posts it. However, private messages do not get logged. | 21:19 |
| hal | then i will not use it anymore. i was not aware. | 21:20 |
| Pres-Gas | No problem, hal. All good. | 21:20 |
| TheSheep | it's not even about logs, it's about trust -- when you do it publicly, you can't really cheat people into doing nasty stuff or revealing passwords | 21:20 |
| hal | thanks for the correction | 21:21 |
| TheSheep | hal: sorry for complaining, but I think it's important :) | 21:22 |
| Pres-Gas | People can be nasty at times. Fortunately the crappy people are mostly filtered out here in freenode because they mostly hang out on the other HUGE chat servers. | 21:24 |
| hal | no need to apologize. i too am here to learn. I was curious since i saw something posted about "clanav" wanted to know if there was a new virus out. but i understand it was being used to scan on a windows box. | 21:24 |
| Pres-Gas | ...but not all of them are filtered out... | 21:24 |
| Pres-Gas | I tend to use the windows version of clamav on my vm's. I don't tend to autorun installers I download from the interwebs. | 21:25 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | Hey guys, I know I asked this before..... but I forgot the answer. What is the IRC client that Xubuntu 9.10 comes with by default? | 22:40 |
| lvzimmer | Cyber_Akuma-Lapt, xchat | 22:41 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | It comes with xchat by default? Huh, I could have sworn I had to install that myself. Is that the gui based version? | 22:42 |
| lvzimmer | Cyber_Akuma-Lapt, i think so | 22:44 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | See, I am helping someone fix his computer through irc, and itll involve him reooting to linux with a livecd to perform some of the operations, hes not good with computers so I would need to use only gui programs for him | 22:44 |
| lvzimmer | Cyber_Akuma-Lapt, you could use pidgin too. | 22:46 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | Ah, that was the one somebody reommended before, thanks | 22:46 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | I know this is kinda asilly question to ask but, there should be NO chance ofa window virus managing to infect a linux livecd iso right? I know, though it is incredibly miniscule, that it might be possible for a virus to infect a windows based iso | 22:47 |
| lvzimmer | Cyber_Akuma-Lapt, i never hear something about it | 22:50 |
| Syndri | hi | 23:23 |
| Syndri | can someone help me with installation problems | 23:23 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | I can try, what kind of problems | 23:23 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | keep in mind im new to linux | 23:24 |
| TheSheep | !ask | Syndri | 23:25 |
| ubottu | Syndri: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 23:25 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | At least he didn't ask "can I ask you a question?" XD | 23:26 |
| Cyber_Akuma-Lapt | I hate the oxymoronicss of that XD and yes, I know I spelled that wrong | 23:26 |
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