| Ahmuck | is there an ical version of edubuntu meetings, events, etc? | 03:14 |
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| Ahmuck | btw, i was looking at webdev this aftenoon. sunbird has the option of caldev or ical. looking at wikipedia, ical is a subset or a way to code info from caldev. how do the tow interact? | 03:16 |
| Ahmuck | did edubuntu have a meeting today. looking at the fridge, i don't see a listing | 03:17 |
| sbalneav | Ahmuck: | 04:12 |
| sbalneav | yes | 04:12 |
| sbalneav | Well, I found where it's dying in gksu anyway. | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | yeesh, code's crap, they're doing fgets without checking result codes. | 05:24 |
| alkisg | That's about gksu? Geez, you should write your own OS while you're fixing things... :) | 05:30 |
| sbalneav | well, it's the fact that something's giving an error code that's causing the proble. | 05:30 |
| sbalneav | but gksu blindly barrels ahead. | 05:31 |
| sbalneav | I think I can fix it by providing a configure option, force it to fork a pty | 05:31 |
| sbalneav | building another package now. | 05:31 |
| alkisg | Good morning btw. I got a question about bug handling. Suppose we want to fix this simple bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/315909 | 05:31 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 315909 in kdeedu "Grammar error in Chapter 4 of the KTurtle tutorial." [Low,Confirmed] | 05:31 |
| alkisg | That's clearly an upstream bug, but upstream doesn't know about it: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kturtle | 05:32 |
| alkisg | So what do we do? We just forward it upstream? We file a bug in kde edu and include a patch? | 05:32 |
| sbalneav | Well, canonical's supposed to be forwarding patches upstream, however I've heard a lot of upstream devs complaining there's nothing flowing to them. | 05:33 |
| sbalneav | I'd say, lets come up with a patch for the bug, and make sure we forward it upstream manually. | 05:33 |
| sbalneav | that way we know they got it. | 05:33 |
| alkisg | OK, so for each bug that is clearly an upstream bug, we come up with a patch, and manually file a bug upstream. Got it. :) | 05:34 |
| sbalneav | Well, that's what I do, unless the bug's in an ubuntu applied patch. | 05:35 |
| sbalneav | YEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA | 05:44 |
| sbalneav | \o/ | 05:45 |
| sbalneav | stgraber: you still awake at this ungodly hour? | 05:49 |
| sbalneav | So, here's what's wrong with gksu | 05:49 |
| sbalneav | Looks like there's been some change in sudo, or something, anyway, sudo's looking for an actual tty now for passwd input | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | so | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | libgksu needs to be compiled with | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | --enable-sudo-forkpty | 05:50 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: yep | 06:37 |
| stgraber | interesting | 06:37 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: did you do a test build of it ? | 06:38 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: would be interesting to have it in your PPA, then poke Michael Vogt (mvo) to see if he's anything against that change (as in, potential regression) | 06:39 |
| stgraber | and if not, we'll just change it ;) | 06:39 |
| * stgraber looks at Debian to see if they made the change, if yes, then it's a simple packaging change merge ;) | 06:39 | |
| stgraber | hmm, nope, Debian has the same ... | 06:41 |
| stgraber | oh, actually it seems like this used to exist as a patch in previous versions | 06:43 |
| stgraber | then was made upstream but the flag hasn't been added to the configure | 06:43 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: can you file a bug on LP about it and give me the bug number ? I'll see tomorrow if I feel like doing the change or I'll poke someone in the desktop team. | 06:44 |
| stgraber | it's a bit late here to break libgksu :) | 06:44 |
| * ogra_ yawns | 09:06 | |
| * alkisg hands a cup of coffee to ogra | 09:25 | |
| ogra_ | :) | 09:28 |
| * alkisg wonders why "Try Edubuntu without any change to your computer" in the edubuntu installer is untraslated in *all* languages, while on launchpad it's translated... | 09:43 | |
| ogra_ | talk to cjwatson, i guess he hasnt imported the translations into debian-installer | 09:43 |
| alkisg | danke! | 09:44 |
| alkisg | Is there any way to install edubuntu, and then switch to all the regular ubuntu themes, layouts, icons etc? | 10:14 |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | ||
| sbalneav | stgraber: libgksu IS broken NOW compared to it's previous defaults | 13:44 |
| sbalneav | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgksu/+bug/501559 | 13:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 501559 in libgksu "libgksu fails to start many programs, fails with: assert g_str_has_prefix str != NULL" [High,Confirmed] | 13:44 |
| * highvoltage drinks an energy tablet | 13:50 | |
| highvoltage | good morning everyone | 13:50 |
| highvoltage | or good afternoon if you're in my timezone :) | 13:50 |
| alkisg | Good afternoon :) | 14:05 |
| alkisg | Is there any way to install edubuntu, and then switch to all the regular ubuntu themes, layouts, icons etc? | 14:06 |
| toogreen | alkisg, i did it by removing a few packages like edubuntu-artwork, if i remember well | 14:09 |
| toogreen | and then for the icon themes and stuff u can simply change it in the preferences/themes | 14:10 |
| alkisg | That's a per user change, how do I change the system defaults for that? | 14:10 |
| alkisg | I tried update-alternatives --all but that didn't quite do it... | 14:10 |
| highvoltage | heh | 14:11 |
| toogreen | alkisg, hmm i guess by removing the themes packages, not sure tho :-/ im just a regular joe user hehe | 14:11 |
| alkisg | toogreen: heh, sure, thanks for the advice | 14:11 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: removing the theme packages should really do the trick | 14:11 |
| toogreen | i came here to ask for help too actually | 14:12 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: I'll try it again, I had some problems with the logging off/on with the daily live :) | 14:12 |
| alkisg | toogreen: sure, shoot! | 14:12 |
| toogreen | was just wondering if anyone knows if/when the issue with italc and remote shutdown/rebooting in Karmic will be fixed | 14:13 |
| alkisg | toogreen: I sent a patch for it, did you try it? | 14:13 |
| toogreen | hmm I'm not sure how to apply patches :-/ | 14:13 |
| alkisg | (I also have updated packages for it in my ppa) | 14:13 |
| alkisg | Are you using Karmic? | 14:13 |
| toogreen | won't it be just released in a normal update? | 14:14 |
| toogreen | yeah using Karmic | 14:14 |
| alkisg | Well we'll have to convince stgraber to include it in his italc patches :) | 14:14 |
| toogreen | I have two Linux labs in my school, one is still Jaunty, the other Karmic | 14:14 |
| alkisg | ...so the best course there would be to try the patches (=install the debs from my ppa), and confirm that they work | 14:14 |
| alkisg | Let me get you the links... | 14:15 |
| toogreen | in the Jaunty lab, I fixed the issue by installing powermanagement package (or something like that) | 14:15 |
| alkisg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/italc/+bug/367960 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 367960 in italc ""power down" request fails on 9.04; logout instead" [Medium,Incomplete] | 14:15 |
| toogreen | ok will try the PPA solution, thanks | 14:15 |
| alkisg | Ah, I see you've commented there | 14:15 |
| toogreen | yeah I did | 14:15 |
| alkisg | Do post a reply if you verify that my patches work, it'll help in their inclusion in the ubuntu package | 14:16 |
| toogreen | I thought the patches were more complicated tho | 14:16 |
| toogreen | heheh | 14:16 |
| toogreen | ok cool, will try | 14:16 |
| toogreen | im at home now tho | 14:16 |
| toogreen | only start working again on the 4th of Jan | 14:16 |
| toogreen | will try then | 14:16 |
| alkisg | What are you using? i386 or amd64? | 14:16 |
| toogreen | i was just wondering about the status of this bug | 14:16 |
| toogreen | i386 | 14:16 |
| alkisg | Here are the .debs: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/proposed/+sourcepub/891138/+listing-archive-extra | 14:17 |
| alkisg | This way you can download them manually if you don't want to include my ppa in your sources | 14:17 |
| toogreen | ok that's cool, thanks a lot!! | 14:19 |
| toogreen | It was rather annoying indeed to turn 30 computers off one by one everyday, heheh :-P | 14:20 |
| toogreen | I'd say this is a killer feature of italc :-) | 14:20 |
| toogreen | for lazy ppl like me | 14:20 |
| alkisg | Sure I used that too, a lot | 14:20 |
| alkisg | My main problem with iTalc is that on my last lab it crashed after just a few seconds of broadcasting :( | 14:21 |
| toogreen | alkisg r u working in a school too? | 14:21 |
| alkisg | In 3 other labs it was working fine, though... | 14:21 |
| alkisg | Yup, I'm mostly a teacher | 14:22 |
| toogreen | i have many issues with iTalc actually... I don't rely on it too much for demonstrating.. I use the projector/screen combo instead | 14:22 |
| * alkisg wishes he had a projector :( | 14:22 | |
| toogreen | it was too unstable in my case | 14:22 |
| toogreen | i think the network is too slow or something | 14:22 |
| alkisg | Do you have a full gigabit network? | 14:22 |
| toogreen | I use iTalc mainly to send messages, take control, or lock the screen | 14:22 |
| toogreen | I'm not sure actually, think so but the network setup is pretty messy in our school | 14:23 |
| alkisg | Nah, it's not the network that's slow. VNC is the main problem, and iTalc makes it worse.. E.g. freenx works just fine. | 14:23 |
| toogreen | i mainly teach, there are other ppl in charge of network etc | 14:23 |
| toogreen | ok | 14:24 |
| alkisg | Ah. I gotta do it all myself, no other tech persons around :) | 14:24 |
| toogreen | where are you at? China here | 14:24 |
| toogreen | I'm Canadian tho, but working/teaching in China | 14:25 |
| alkisg | Greece... | 14:25 |
| toogreen | ok | 14:25 |
| toogreen | Just wondering, how widely spread Ubuntu is in schools over there? | 14:25 |
| alkisg | It's not widespread yet. We're working on it :) | 14:26 |
| toogreen | Yeah same here. In Shanghai as far as I know I'm one of the rare ones pushing Ubuntu/FOSS | 14:26 |
| toogreen | Everywhere else is pirate Windows XP | 14:26 |
| toogreen | and piracy is so widely common and accepted | 14:27 |
| alkisg | Yeah same here... | 14:27 |
| toogreen | it's hard to teach ppl and convince them to use FOSS... | 14:27 |
| alkisg | But, 2 years ago a pilot program was started by the greek ministry of education. About 20 labs started using Ubuntu/LTSP, bug most of them abandoned it before the year was over. | 14:27 |
| highvoltage | toogreen: aparently very few people run legal copies of anything there | 14:27 |
| toogreen | highvoltage, true... which is a shame and im trying to educate ppl around me, at least | 14:27 |
| highvoltage | toogreen: great | 14:28 |
| alkisg | A few of us straggled to make it work like we wanted it, we wrote some manuals and scripts for customization, and now the user base is constantly increasing | 14:28 |
| toogreen | highvoltage, one thing that saddens me a great deals is computer dealers all around, they do have systems that are windows-less... Like Dell machines for instances, but they put Windows XP pirate on them even before ppl buy them!! | 14:29 |
| toogreen | so when you go shopping for computers in Shanghai, all computers without OS are already running Windows XP | 14:29 |
| toogreen | except few exceptions but its mainly that | 14:30 |
| toogreen | At the very beginning of EeePCs it was interesting, they left the original Xandros there... But talking to the salesmen they told me everybody was asking to replace it with WinXP | 14:31 |
| toogreen | So they started just installing XP on demonstrators as well and completely disregarding Linux | 14:31 |
| toogreen | anyways, its pretty sad | 14:32 |
| toogreen | Even people who buy Macs in Shanghai, most of them ask the sales ppl if they can wipe out Mac OS and put XP instead!! | 14:32 |
| toogreen | Not sure why Chinese ppl like XP so much.. heheh | 14:32 |
| alkisg | toogreen: here's a good link against piracy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponosov%27s_case | 14:33 |
| alkisg | That teacher was convicted because he bought PCs with pirated windows on them | 14:34 |
| alkisg | Since then he became a FLOSS advocate, and now Russia moved on to using open source... | 14:34 |
| toogreen | alkisg, thanks for the link, I sure will show this to some people I know!!! | 14:36 |
| toogreen | printing it out now... | 14:37 |
| sbalneav | alkisg: Why Sabayon would help you with your theming woes! | 14:40 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:41 |
| sbalneav | reading scrollback | 14:41 |
| alkisg | sbalneav: really? hmmm I hear that it has some severe gksu-related bugs, though... :P :D | 14:41 |
| sbalneav | <rage on> | 14:43 |
| sbalneav | WHRAAAAAAAAAA HULK SMASH | 14:43 |
| sbalneav | </rage off> | 14:43 |
| highvoltage | heh nice one alkisg | 14:43 |
| sbalneav | Fixed. Now I just have to convince someone with upload rights that fixing is isn't "breaking it this late in the cycle" | 14:44 |
| alkisg | Late?! Only an alpha was out... | 14:44 |
| sbalneav | even tho' it's demonstrably broken now, and by fixing it, I restore previous functionality. | 14:44 |
| sbalneav | See stgraber's comment above :) | 14:44 |
| alkisg | sbalneav: if you're talking about "it's a bit late here to break libgksu :)", I think stgraber meant that it was late in the day, i.e. midnight... | 14:48 |
| sbalneav | Ah, I assumed that meant "in the development cycle" :) | 14:49 |
| sbalneav | Anywho, hopefully I can convince someone (shouldn't necessarily be stgraber, btw.) that this is important. | 14:50 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: shouldn't take much | 14:58 |
| sbalneav | Heh, only had one bite so far, and he wanted me to justify why upstream had made the change in the first place. :) | 15:03 |
| * sbalneav put on his Johnny Carson "Carnac the Magnificent" heagear, holds libgksu2-0 source to forhead | 15:04 | |
| sbalneav | Wait, how many people here get that? | 15:05 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: I get this for cnetworkmanager on my host: http://paste.ubuntu.com/349113/ | 15:05 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: know what could be causing that? | 15:05 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: it sounds like something north-americanish :) | 15:06 |
| sbalneav | That from my packages? | 15:07 |
| highvoltage | yep | 15:07 |
| sbalneav | one sec | 15:07 |
| sbalneav | How'd you get the error? | 15:13 |
| sbalneav | try a cnetworkmanager -d | 15:13 |
| highvoltage | still says the same | 15:16 |
| sbalneav | You install it on a karmic box? | 15:17 |
| sbalneav | I just installed it here on my karmic box, works fine. | 15:17 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: yep | 15:19 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: I'll look at it again a bit later and let you know if I get it running | 15:19 |
| sbalneav | well, the error indicates that something's not right with dbus | 15:19 |
| sbalneav | ls -l /etc/dbus-1/system.d/cnetworkmanager.conf | 15:21 |
| sbalneav | wait: | 15:21 |
| sbalneav | dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files | 15:21 |
| |user| | hello | 15:21 |
| sbalneav | Did you uninstall networkmanager? | 15:21 |
| sbalneav | |user|: hello | 15:21 |
| |user| | i have edubuntu on my asus eee900ha | 15:22 |
| |user| | my wireles wont work | 15:22 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: nope, should I? | 15:22 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: well, I installed networkmanager just shortly before | 15:22 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: ah, after a reboot it magically works | 15:23 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: well, restarting the system might help | 15:23 |
| sbalneav | I suspect network manager isn't properly runnig yet | 15:23 |
| sbalneav | |user|: What kind of wireless is in that machine? I'm not familiar with that hardware | 15:24 |
| highvoltage | |user|: edubuntu 9.10? | 15:24 |
| |user| | yes | 15:25 |
| |user| | i dont know why | 15:25 |
| |user| | i installed kde | 15:26 |
| |user| | too | 15:26 |
| highvoltage | "anomalies" nice. | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | highvoltage: The error basically means that cnetworkmanager tried to talk to NetworkMangler, but there wasn't one registered with dbus. | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | How the heck did you NOT have networkmanager installed on Ubuntu? it's like freaking default for everything now. | 15:29 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: this machine doesn't have an X server installed | 15:30 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: it's a small server machine that I want to put on wi-fi | 15:30 |
| sbalneav | Well, you'll need networkmanager running properly in order to get cnetworkmanager to work. | 15:37 |
| sbalneav | alkisg: And here we have the primary problem with Ubuntu. | 16:22 |
| sbalneav | "What you want to do isn't right, but I don't have time to research how to fix the problem, or give you any suggestions on how to fix it, so things should just stay broken" | 16:23 |
| alkisg | Right, I hate this kind of talk :( | 16:24 |
| sbalneav | I mean, I'd be more than happy to start identifying SDL applications, and filing bugs to make them dep on -pulseaudio | 16:26 |
| sbalneav | And now, he's ignoring us. | 16:28 |
| alkisg | sbalneav: I tried that for 2-3 apps, no sugar | 16:29 |
| alkisg | ...and I don't think it's a good solution either | 16:29 |
| alkisg | Maybe a better solution would be on a higher level. E.g. Ubuntu wants pulse? Maybe ubuntu-desktop should depend on libsdl-pulse, and kubuntu on libsdl-alsa... | 16:30 |
| sbalneav | Maybe not, but it's better than "doing nothing" | 16:30 |
| sbalneav | That's an idea | 16:30 |
| sbalneav | Why not suggest that. | 16:30 |
| alkisg | It needs searching to support this idea... maybe ubuntu-desktop is not the proper package, but some other one, lower on the hierarchy | 16:31 |
| alkisg | Bah let's mention it, nothing to lose | 16:31 |
| sbalneav | I don't understand why it's not a dep for pulse, personally | 16:31 |
| sbalneav | Really, what you need is conditional deps :) | 16:32 |
| alkisg | Right, and a better conffile system ;) | 16:33 |
| sbalneav | Could you write that for us? | 16:34 |
| sbalneav | I like your dummy packages idea. | 16:34 |
| sbalneav | that wouldn't be that hard. | 16:34 |
| alkisg | Sure I could write that. That's the easy part. | 16:37 |
| alkisg | The question is, who'd want that? :D | 16:38 |
| alkisg | I don't think anyone's listening... ;) | 16:38 |
| highvoltage | dummy packages? | 16:38 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: packaging problem. libsdl1.2debian depends on libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio | libsdl1.2debian-all | libsdl1.2debian-alsa | libsdl1.2debian-esd | libsdl1.2debian-oss | libsdl1.2debian-nas | 16:39 |
| alkisg | Ah sorry | 16:39 |
| alkisg | alsa in front | 16:39 |
| alkisg | So it breaks the sound (or even worse) in all packages that use SDL on Ubuntu | 16:39 |
| alkisg | e.g. one of the many, many bug reports about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/203158 | 16:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 203158 in libsdl1.2 "libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio must be installed as default by libsdl1.2debian" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:39 |
| alkisg | So we're trying to propose a good way for libsdl to depend on pulse on ubuntu, but on alsa on kubuntu (as kubuntu doesn't use pulse by default) | 16:40 |
| sbalneav | I kind of like how we're willing to accept broken behaviour in the primary product, to make sure things work perfectly in the secondary product. | 16:42 |
| sbalneav | And here's where it will stall. | 16:42 |
| * alkisg guesses either ScottK uses Kubuntu, or he doesn't use any SDL based apps at all :D | 16:43 | |
| sbalneav | If it wasn't for having good guys like ogra and stgraber around to champion issue for us, I'd have given up on ubuntu long ago | 16:44 |
| * sbalneav hugs ogra, stgraber | 16:44 | |
| sbalneav | Well, yeah, none of the main ubuntu apps are sdl I think | 16:45 |
| sbalneav | They all universe packages? | 16:47 |
| alkisg | !info tuxpaint | 16:47 |
| ubottu | tuxpaint (source: tuxpaint): A paint program for young children. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.20-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 164 kB, installed size 396 kB | 16:47 |
| alkisg | Nope | 16:48 |
| sbalneav | perfect. | 16:48 |
| sbalneav | LOL | 16:48 |
| alkisg | Maybe we should start a riot outside of Mark's office :P | 16:49 |
| sbalneav | I already managed to affect some stuff | 16:50 |
| alkisg | !info gstreamer0.10-sdl | 16:50 |
| ubottu | gstreamer0.10-sdl (source: gst-plugins-bad0.10): GStreamer plugin for SDL output. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.14-4ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 43 kB, installed size 104 kB | 16:50 |
| sbalneav | I complained to Jorge Castro about bug handling. | 16:50 |
| sbalneav | He's apparently got a "team" that's going to be scouring lunchpad for bugs filed that actally have patches attached | 16:51 |
| alkisg | Yey! | 16:51 |
| sbalneav | apparently, they've got in excess of 1600 bugs that have patches attached, that no-ones looking at. | 16:51 |
| alkisg | That'd solve *a lot* of problems... | 16:51 |
| sbalneav | I got that ball rolling when I whined and stamped my feet about the cups bug for hardy | 16:53 |
| sbalneav | which, BTW, still hasn't been fixed :) | 16:54 |
| * alkisg shrugs :( | 16:54 | |
| alkisg | !info libsdl1.2debian | 16:54 |
| ubottu | libsdl1.2debian (source: libsdl1.2): Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.13-4ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB | 16:54 |
| sbalneav | I know it sounds like I've been a whiny little primadonna the last few weeks, but goldarnit, we're not going to get these issues fixed unless we make some noise about them. | 16:55 |
| alkisg | ...and thus, the libsdl bug is again shoved... | 17:14 |
| sbalneav | I'd cut-n-paste the convo into the bug | 17:17 |
| sbalneav | I know, it's frustrating isn't it? Bottom line is, base ubuntu doesn't rely on any sdl apps, so.... | 17:18 |
| alkisg | But it does. libsdl is installed by default in the live cd. | 17:18 |
| sbalneav | Right, but not the right one. | 17:19 |
| alkisg | Yes, so if we put the correct one in the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop, it'll be fixed. | 17:19 |
| sbalneav | but none of the default ubuntu apps that I know of are sdl | 17:19 |
| alkisg | Where's the problem in that? | 17:19 |
| sbalneav | You're preaching to the choir Brother Alkis! :) | 17:19 |
| * alkisg will try to see *how* libsdl gets in the live cd... | 17:19 | |
| sbalneav | Amen, Glory Halleluia! | 17:20 |
| sbalneav | I don't see a problem with it AT ALL. | 17:20 |
| sbalneav | ah, right, we're dropping gimp too. | 17:41 |
| sbalneav | Race to the bottom. | 17:41 |
| alkisg | I think we need to fix all those broken dependencies in edubuntu, and just ignore everything ubuntu does :P :D | 17:42 |
| sbalneav | I'm all for that, although I don't no how we'd do it. | 17:43 |
| sbalneav | We'd need our own complete apt archive. | 17:43 |
| alkisg | Nope. We'd just make edubuntu-desktop depend on libsdl-pulse ;) | 17:44 |
| alkisg | (we ship gimp anyways :D) | 17:44 |
| sbalneav | Ah, well, yeah, WE can do that for edubuntu-desktop, for sure. | 17:46 |
| alkisg | Nailed it. :D | 18:19 |
| alkisg | A conflicts: libsdl-alsa on the pulseaudio package should be a nice fix. Testing... | 18:19 |
| sbalneav | DID SOMETHING GET COMMITTED?!?!! | 18:51 |
| * sbalneav 's jaw drops in amazement | 18:51 | |
| sbalneav | \o/ for alkisg | 18:51 |
| alkisg | Hey wait who said anything about commits? | 18:56 |
| alkisg | I just had an idea which seems acceptable to them, and I'll test it, and then they'll think about commiting it... :D | 18:57 |
| sbalneav | ah, jumped the gun :) | 18:58 |
| * alkisg uploaded a fixed pulseaudio package to his ppa, and downloaded the lucid daily cd. Hopefully now libsdl-pulse will be installed when I install tuxpaint.. fingers crossed.. | 18:58 | |
| sbalneav | here's hoping | 18:58 |
| * sbalneav waits with bated breath. | 19:15 | |
| sbalneav | Man, I should quit eating fish for lunch. | 19:15 |
| Lns | nice guys =) That's been a sore for some time (libsdl-alsa screwing w/tux4kids apps) | 19:26 |
| sbalneav | All your thanks goes to alkisg, he's driving that particular bus. | 19:41 |
| sbalneav | And quite expertly too. | 19:41 |
| * alkisg loves launchpad... "starts in 20 minutes... 10... 5... 3.. 2.. 1.. 5... 10... 20..." :( | 19:49 | |
| Ahmuck | alkisg: u fixed pulseaudio? | 22:06 |
| alkisg | Ahmuck: nope, not at all | 22:06 |
| alkisg | !info libsdl1.2debian-alsa | 23:15 |
| ubottu | Error: I tried to send you an empty message. | 23:15 |
| alkisg | !info libsdl1.2debian-alsa | 23:15 |
| ubottu | libsdl1.2debian-alsa (source: libsdl1.2): Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options). In component main, is extra. Version 1.2.13-4ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 212 kB, installed size 524 kB | 23:15 |
| alkisg | !info libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio | 23:15 |
| ubottu | libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio (source: libsdl1.2): Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and PulseAudio options). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.13-4ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 211 kB, installed size 524 kB | 23:15 |
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