[00:01] <v6lur> EagleScreen: adding a reference to /etc/fstab didn't make the device appear in storage media applett
[00:02] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I have´nt tried that, but I have a laptop more with the same problem, only it was from day one there was no sound, but at times I could get it to work via alsamixer.. but when I start it up in windows, no problem..
[00:02] <e_t_> mkraus: I did some research on your error message. The best I could discern, the solution is to remove wodim and install cdrecord.
[00:02] <v6lur> can't i use udev to make it visible to whatever backend (hal?) kde is using for usb storage devices?
[00:07] <mkraus> e_t_:  if I remove wodim, it also removes k3b, brasero and wodim. if I install "cdrecord" it installs wodim^^
[00:10] <e_t_> mkraus: You may be stuck then. The issue has a two year history on Ubuntu forums and no real solution.
[00:12] <e_t_> mkraus
[00:12] <e_t_> mkraus: for some people, reducing write speed to 4x worked, but not for everyone.
[00:24] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I tried the 9.10 install disc, but can´t get sound thru that one either, it says it needs a plugin witch it can´t find...
[00:25] <dodger> Napoleon__B: it sounds like there's a bug in the drivers for your sound card
[00:25] <Napoleon__B> dodger: and I have tried with both wma mp3 format..
[00:26] <dodger> Napoleon__B: aplay can only play uncompressed files (like WAV files), but if you play a wma or mp3, or any other file for that matter, you should still get noise from your speakers
[00:27] <dodger> Napoleon__B: but the fact that you only get silence, despite the fact that the driver is loaded and that alsa shows the card as detected sounds like something is broken in the driver
[00:28] <Napoleon__B> dodger: But should´nt there be something under hardware in the sound menu?
[00:28] <dodger> Napoleon__B: yes, there should
[00:29] <dodger> Napoleon__B: but if the sound device can't be accessed for some reason, it may not show up - i'm not certain as i haven't seen the code at all, but i'd imagine it's not showing devices it can't get access to
[00:30] <Napoleon__B> dodger: on my other comp. there is an "internal audio" 1 output/1input in the hardware section right now..
[00:30] <dodger> yes, you should be seeing something like that
[00:31] <dodger> does the other computer have the same type of sound card?
[00:32] <Napoleon__B> dodger: it is both zepto, but I can´t imagine that it is the same card witch is installd..
[00:36] <dodger> Napoleon__B: if it's a different type of card, it would sort of reinforce that something is not working in the driver
[00:36] <Napoleon__B> dodger: but the strange part is that the first time I installd 9.10 I found a way to get the sound to work by uninstalling some lib* files, but then I had a problem with vm-ware and I started with a new installation of ubuntu and ever since I havent been able to get it to work again..!
[00:38] <Napoleon__B> dodger: the other one was on live cd before, now there is no hardware, like this one...
[00:38] <dodger> anyone else here with an intel 82801G (ICH7) sound card?
[00:41] <Napoleon__B> dodger: if I insert my ekstra usb web cam I get a input device which shows a level bar for input, and it works, and it also turns up under hardware with 1 input...
[00:42] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, so other audio devices work
[00:42] <dodger> Napoleon__B: it's just your internal sound card that doesn't
[00:43] <dodger> hold on a sec, i saw something there earlier
[00:44] <Napoleon__B> dodger: On both computers? no I have dual boot on the other and there is no problem in windows..
[00:45] <Napoleon__B> but yes, the input device, a logitech web cam seems to work fine..
[00:45] <dodger> try this
[00:45] <dodger> Napoleon__B: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel
[00:46] <dodger> Napoleon__B: then
[00:46] <dodger> Napoleon__B: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[00:47] <Napoleon__B> dodger: on the first command I get this:  ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[00:47] <dodger> ok, do 'lsof /dev/snd/*'
[00:48] <dodger> you'll get a list of programs that are trying to use the sound device at the moment
[00:48] <dodger> you'll have to quit them, then try the rmmod again
[00:51] <Napoleon__B> http://pastebin.com/d11c47fe
[00:52] <dodger> hmm
[00:53] <dodger> try sudo killal slmodemd
[00:53] <dodger> 'sudo killall slmodemd' i mean
[00:53] <dodger> wait
[00:53] <dodger> you're not online through the modem, are you?
[00:54] <Napoleon__B> dodger: wireless..
[00:54] <dodger> ok, cool
[00:54] <dodger> try killing slmodemd, then do the lsof again to see if it's gone
[00:55] <Napoleon__B> dodger: when running:  sudo killall slmodemd  I heard a littel click..
[00:55] <dodger> may well have been the modem... let's see what lsof /dev/snd/* says now
[00:56] <dodger> it should show no programs using the device
[00:56] <Napoleon__B> http://pastebin.com/d7b14d2e6
[00:57] <dodger> Napoleon__B: just for the hell of it, run 'speaker-test -c2' now
[00:58] <dodger> see if you hear white noise ;)
[00:58] <Napoleon__B> dodger: white noise yes..
[00:58] <dodger> omg
[00:58] <dodger> lol
[00:59] <dodger> there's sound!
[00:59] <dodger> let's see what system settings->sound says now
[01:00] <dodger> any devices in there?
[01:01] <Napoleon__B> dodger: there is is a device now, and better yet I can hear sound on my music now..!
[01:05] <dodger> great
[01:05] <dodger> so, apparently the modem daemon was hogging the device
[01:06] <dodger> now the only thing that's left to figure out is how to prevent it from starting when you boot the computer
[01:06] <dodger> try
[01:06] <dodger> Napoleon__B: sudo aptitude remove slmodem
[01:07] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I tried the kill all move on the other laptop, followd by lsof /dev/snd/*  and now it also works on that one :-) I´ll try to remove that modem..
[01:14] <dbc254> what do I have to do to kppp so I don't have to enter a password to use it?
[01:14] <dodger> Napoleon__B: once you've removed the slmodem package, you should be good to go even after a reboot
[01:16] <Napoleon__B> dodger: Looks like you are right :-)
[01:18] <Napoleon__B> dodger: or, I got a login sound, but now it seems to be gone again..
[01:19] <dodger> are you still getting a device in the sound settings?
[01:19] <Napoleon__B> dodger: yes
[01:20] <Napoleon__B> dodger: and also a input..
[01:20] <dodger> but no sound out of amarok?
[01:21] <Napoleon__B> dodger: no
[01:21] <dodger> how about speaker-test -c2?
[01:24] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I tried killall, no result, then lsof /de*, no result, and again, and the 3 time there was sound...
[01:27] <Napoleon__B> http://pastebin.com/d300cc701
[01:30] <dodger> ok, killing slmodem shouldn't be necessary anymore
[01:30] <dodger> since it's uninstalled
[01:30] <dodger> the lsof doesn't do anything except show which programs are using the sound card at the moment
[01:31] <dodger> so now it's working again?
[01:34] <Napoleon__B> dodger: true that, it writes: slmodemd: no process found.. but now after restart, no sound at all, before it gave me at welcome sound..
[01:35] <dodger> ok, so after a fresh reboot, what's in your system settings->audio?
[01:36] <Napoleon__B> dodger: no hardware..
[01:36] <dodger> ok, so now let's do lsof /dev/snd/* again
[01:38] <Napoleon__B> dodger: the hardware is there but no sound..
[01:38] <dodger> ok, so you're seeing the devices in system settings?
[01:39] <Napoleon__B> dodger: yes
[01:40] <dodger> ok, and you're getting noise from speaker-test?
[01:41] <Napoleon__B> dodger: no..
[01:41] <Walzmyn> Why does GIMP's toolbox not show up in my taskbar, when all other windows do?
[01:41] <p1erre_> Hi folks. Can anyone tell me where the knotes widgets store the text?
[01:41] <dodger> ok, so what does 'lsof /dev/snd/*' show?
[01:44] <Walzmyn> p1erre_: have you looked in ~/.kde.share/apps/knotes  ?
[01:44] <Napoleon__B> dodger: It shows something diferent every time I run it.. http://pastebin.com/d4b0e11e2
[01:45] <dodger> ok, so now let's try this
[01:45] <dodger> start amarok and start playing a song in it
[01:45] <dodger> then run pavucontrol and look at the output devices tab
[01:46] <p1erre_> Walzmyn: Yes, I did. But, It is empty.
[01:47] <Walzmyn> p1erre_: ok. Mine too, but I don't use knotes, so I dind't know.
[01:47] <Napoleon__B> dodger: the output in pavucontrol is showing like it realy is playing..
[01:48] <dodger> ok, and the volume is turned up?
[01:48] <p1erre_> Walzmyn: :(.
[01:48] <dodger> Napoleon__B: then also look at the 'playback' tab and make sure the volume is turned up there too
[01:49] <mofa> does anyone know how i can make the sleep button on my keyboard actually make the computer go to sleep?
[01:49] <Napoleon__B> dodger: It looks like it was turned off..
[01:50] <Napoleon__B> dodger: there is sound on now again..
[01:50] <Napoleon__B> I´ll try a restart again..
[01:50] <dodger> ok
[01:58] <Walzmyn> p1erre_: i got curious, fired up knotes and saved something, it went in ~/kde/share/apps/knotes
[01:59] <p1erre_> Walzmyn:uhm...
[01:59] <p1erre_> Walzmyn: I am going to check something...
[02:01] <Walzmyn> I am not getting the update icon in my sys tray when updates are availiable. Can I do something to correct this?
[02:01] <Napoleon__B> dodger: no luck, check this out, I tried the lsof /dev* command 3 times, it did the same thing, but after killall something else happens..  http://pastebin.com/d1b4bd656
[02:02] <dodger> Napoleon__B: when you reboot, before you do anything else, do a 'ps -A | grep slmodem'
[02:02] <dodger> i just want to see if that's still sticking around somewhere
[02:03] <Napoleon__B> 1257 ?        00:00:00 slmodemd
[02:03] <Napoleon__B> is what it writes back..
[02:07] <Napoleon__B> dodger: and the other comp says after reboot:  1323 ?      00:00:00 slmodemd
[02:07] <dodger> Napoleon__B: well damn
[02:08] <dodger> for some reason it's still there
[02:08] <dodger> you've done sudo 'aptitude remove slmodem', right?
[02:08] <dodger> 'sudo aptitude remove slmodem' that is
[02:08] <p1erre_> Walzmyn: Ok. So, you launched knotes from krunner? I did it and worked too. But my problem is with the stiky notes widgets. :( , I apolagize for my mistake.
[02:09] <Walzmyn> p1erre_: that's what I was thinking, those are not knotes and i've no idea what it is behind them
[02:10] <p1erre_> Walzmyn: you are totally right. I looking in plasma..
[02:10] <Napoleon__B> dodger: yes I did the sudo aptitude remove slmodem..
[02:12] <dodger> Napoleon__B: do 'aptitude search slmodem' , what does that show?
[02:12] <Napoleon__B> dodger: I just tried the sudo aptitude remove slmodem, and afterwards, ps -A | grep slmodem, result:  1257 ?        00:00:00 slmodemd
[02:13] <dodger> Napoleon__B: right, the remove just uninstalls the package but doesn't stop it if it's still running
[02:13] <dodger> but if it is uninstalled, after a reboot, it shouldn't be running anymore
[02:14] <Napoleon__B> aptitude search slmodem shows:  v   slmodem
[02:14] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, now try 'locate slmodem'
[02:16] <Napoleon__B> dodger:  http://pastebin.com/dc0ae098
[02:16] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, and just to be sure, you did reboot after aptitude remove slmodem, correct?
[02:18] <Napoleon__B> dodger: yes..
[02:18] <dodger> Napoleon__B: good. now let's see if the file is actually there:  'ls /usr/sbin/slmodem*'
[02:19] <Napoleon__B> dodger: ls: kan ikke tilgå /usr/sbin/slmodem: No such file or directory
[02:20] <dodger> Napoleon__B: ok, that is very weird
[02:21] <dodger> Napoleon__B: it's uninstalled, it's no longer in /usr/sbin, but it still starts when you reboot
[02:24] <dodger> there has to be a version of it somewhere that is getting started, that was not installed through the system's package management
[02:24] <Napoleon__B> dodger: could it be something in the grub or in menu.lst?
[02:25] <dodger> Napoleon__B: no, it has to be in one of the startup scripts, but it's very difficult to tell where
[02:25] <dodger> Napoleon__B: so, to recap: you did sudo aptitude remove slmodem, then rebooted the computer
[02:25] <dodger> Napoleon__B: and then ps -A | grep slmodem shows that it's still running?
[02:27] <Napoleon__B> dodger: it is very strange how the very first time I rebooted it worked fine with startup sound, but that wont work either..   yes to your question..
[02:27] <dodger> Napoleon__B: i have to leave for a while, for now just try killing slmodem after a reboot to get sound working... maybe you can take a stab at finding how in the world it's still starting after being uninstalled
[02:28] <dodger> at this point i'm pretty sure that slmodem is what's causing your problems
[02:28] <dodger> but how it's getting started after you uninstalled it, i don't know
[02:30] <dodger> i'll bbl :)
[02:31] <Napoleon__B> dodger: we come a long way, so thanks for your work so far, Ill try some things myself..
[02:46] <p1erre> Folks, Can anyone tell me where sticky notes widget store the text that you wrote?
[03:53] <saint__> Can someone help me? I am right now on Kubuntu 9.04, I today upgraded to 9.10 but when I connect wirelessly none of my browsers work, but updates, and package managers work sometimes.
[03:54] <saint__> anyone?
[03:56] <monkeybritt> broadcom sta driver locks up native network manager and freezes system on install any fix?
[04:04] <monkeybritt> okie dokie
[05:03] <reduz> guys, help! how do i set a custom screen resolution? I have a KVM switch and EDID doesn't work so i want to set the screenres myself
[05:04] <reduz> windows has no issues with this
[05:26] <webbb82> hey  i need a hand i am running windows and i went to install kubuntu on a dual boot setup  but after i did the partition part to split my hd in two the installer crashed leaving me with half a hard drive  and half unalocated space how do i get it back or del the patition and it will go back to my full hd???
[06:12] <Oreaoxx> anyone here
[06:20] <Guest15008> Good Morning - I need a bit of help if anyone would mind? - I am not winning with my bottom panel and the positioning of the widgets on the bar!
[06:27] <Guest15008> any Idea why when you add a widget to the panel - it always wants to go to the left hand side? how can I make it go on the right hand side?
[06:54] <IDlucas> hello, im using kubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) and i have not succed to change the DPI to 107, anyone can help me?
[07:02] <Guest95534> Can someone help me with a wine issue?
[07:08] <cjae> so I am running kde 4.3.2 and installed kgpg and it doesnt seem to work with this bug http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg26884.html  How would I go about installing a newer or older version  of kgpg since it is part of kde-utils, would  I have to enable the ppa for kde 4.4?
[07:10] <cjae> or just find a ppa that has a newer version
[07:13] <cjae> kdeutils    4:4.3.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 I think is what I need?
[07:14] <cjae> so may I just add this repo to my sources list and update kde utils? deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[07:15] <cjae> I am running 9.10 with kde  4.3.2
[07:16] <cjae> anyone
[07:17] <naftilos76> hi everyone, when i send an email through kmail, new line chars more than one are ignored and the message eventually sent is badly formatted! Can i change that? Is there a setting that can allow me to include as many new lines as i wish?
[07:17] <naftilos76> Gia sou re Leonida!
[07:18] <naftilos76> cjae - you can so that!
[07:18] <naftilos76> i have already done it
[07:19] <cjae> naftilos76: pardon
[07:20] <naftilos76> cjae - go here and follow the instructions:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4
[07:20] <cjae> naftilos76: you have installed kde 4.4 or just updated kgpg/kdeutils?
[07:21] <cjae> and does it fix kgpg
[07:21] <naftilos76> i updated to 4.3.4
[07:27] <cjae> naftilos76: could you do me a favor?
[07:27] <cjae> could you test this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/470695
[07:28]  * cjae doesnt like enabling ppa's if doesn have to
[07:58] <cjae> ok so if enabled deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main what is the syntax to lower  the pin limit, so I ccan just install kdeutils
[08:00] <cjae> Pin: release a=karmic-backports this not it but  I imagine it would close
[08:47] <yaramazgeyik> i cant install atlantis pulgin in compiz
[09:04] <VirtualExplorer> is there a download accelerator application for ubuntu??
[09:23] <fujimitsu> all packages are greyed out in kpackagekit.. whts with that?  i could install from terminal but i wanna know how to use this thing
[09:28] <dodger> what do you mean by greyed out?
[09:29] <dodger> the icon is usually grey until a package is installed
[09:29] <dodger> you can queue it for installation by clicking the blue arrow on the right
[09:29] <dodger> well, greyish blue
[09:31] <fujimitsu> in case yer talkin to me, what i mean is i cannot select anything to install.. i can only do search
[09:32] <fujimitsu> gosh.. i just figured it out.. the icon theme confused me
[09:35] <fujimitsu> everything looks the same color on this dark theme
[09:35] <fujimitsu> -1
[10:15] <javier_> Hi! I need a simple program for recording my voice with the microphone. I've read Krec and Krecord can do it, but I don't find them for installing. Any idea how can I download them?
[10:29] <reinhold> javier_: audacity
[10:30] <javier_> reinhold: Hi! I downloaded it, I'm trying to get to understand it, but it looks more complicated than what I've used before. And, don't know why, it doesnt record well from the microphone
[10:31] <Peace-> javier_: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all
[10:31] <Peace-> javier_: configure well capture volume
[10:31] <reinhold> javier_: audacity is a full audio editing application, so it's a bit more complex than needed for voice recording only...
[10:31] <Peace-> then make sure you have selected on preferences alsa
[10:32] <reinhold> javier_: Alternatively, you might try qarecord. I haven't tried it myself, though.
[10:32] <Peace-> reinhold: well it's pretty simple ...
[10:32] <Peace-> btw you can record with rec
[10:32] <Peace-> rec -o temp.wav
[10:32] <Peace-> CTRL C to stop recording
[10:32] <reinhold> Peace-: Yes, i know, I'm using audacity to edit / cut / mix my recordings...
[10:33] <Peace-> it's ultra simple but if you mess some configuration :D
[10:33] <Peace-> it's complicated
[10:33] <paulsomebody_> javier_: Try searching something else, by description maybe.
[10:34] <javier_> Peace-: How did you meant to configure volume after installing those libraries?
[10:35] <paulsomebody_> People, is there a way to play .ape files in Amarok?
[10:36] <Peace-> javier_: kmix .... configure channell
[10:36] <Peace-> make sure capture is not too high
[10:36] <Peace-> try to record with konsole
[10:36] <Peace-> typing rec -o temp.wav
[10:36] <javier_> one second: not too high... in which channel? I think it's using "digital"
[10:37] <reinhold> paulsomebody_: I don't think so. But you can download Monkey's audio, run it with wine and convert the .ape file to .wav
[10:37] <Peace-> javier_: like said before test with rec -o temp.wav
[10:37] <Peace-> in konsole
[10:37] <javier_> ok
[10:37] <paulsomebody_> reinhold: Yes, I am aware of this variant.
[10:38] <javier_> Peace-: "rec FAIL formats": cant open input "default": select_format"
[10:39] <Peace-> javier_: try with  rec
[10:39] <Peace-> only
[10:39] <Peace-> one moment pleas
[10:40] <javier_> rec temp.wav
[10:40] <javier_> sorry (that was for konsole)
[10:41] <Peace-> yep
[10:41] <Peace-> less -o it works
[10:41] <javier_> how to stop it?
[10:41] <Peace-> CTRL C
[10:42] <Peace-> then you have to play NAMEFILE
[10:42] <Peace-> play namfile
[10:44] <javier_> Peace-: Ah... no sound, nothing recorded
[10:44] <dezk> hiiiiiii
[10:45] <dezk> someone knows how to pass level 1 in prboom
[10:45] <dezk> theres no monsters
[10:45] <javier_> Peace-: but you said something about "preferences -> ALSA". Where you mean to do this?
[10:46] <dezk> nothing
[10:48] <Peace-> javier_: please post a screenshot  of the konsole when you typed : alsamixer -V all
[10:51] <javier_> for s screenshot... how to do it? not pastebin...
[10:55] <javier_> Peace-: for s screenshot... how to do it? not pastebin... I dont know how to do it with a picture
[10:56] <paulsomebody_> javier_: Well hello. Have you reied pressing PrintScr?
[10:56] <paulsomebody_> javier_: And then select an applet "Pastebin
[10:57] <paulsomebody_> Add it somewhere and paste there a clipboard contents.
[10:57] <paulsomebody_> Peace-: Inspired by your conversation I have done something to my Kmix, and now my mic works.
[10:58] <paulsomebody_> Peace-: Problem is: I still can't realize what it was.
[10:58] <javier_> Peace-: with printScr it opens ksnapshot
[10:59] <paulsomebody_> It seems that I have another problem. Everybody ignores me.
[11:03] <javier_> Peace-: ufff, no way, i dont know how to pastebin a picture...
[11:06] <paulsomebody_> javier_: If you will stop ignoring me, you could notice that I've suggested a way to do this.
[11:06] <nachtwolf> Huhu
[11:06] <nachtwolf> nice season everybody
[11:07] <paulsomebody_> nachtwolf: Something specific?
[11:07] <nachtwolf> i need a bit help with gnome-shell
[11:07] <paulsomebody_> nachtwolf: What kind of help?
[11:08] <nachtwolf> or better how to deactivat it
[11:08] <javier_> paulsomebody_: sorry :) I was reading what you said. What do you mean by add it somewhere and paste there the clpboard content? Sorry, i didnt answer because I thought doing the other way was going to be easier...
[11:08] <paulsomebody_> nachtwolf: You should try at #ubuntu.
[11:08] <nachtwolf> ah ok, thanks
[11:08] <nachtwolf> i look there
[11:08] <paulsomebody_> nachtwolf: This channel is dedicated to KDE and Kubuntu, your question is related to Ubuntu.
[11:09] <nachtwolf> thanks paulsomebody_
[11:09] <nachtwolf> bye
[11:09] <paulsomebody_> javier_: There is a plasma applet, called Pastebin. Add it somewhere, and, right-click on it and select "Paste".
[11:10] <paulsomebody_> javier_: You should preciously press "Copy to clipboard" in the Ksnapshot.
[11:12] <javier_> paulsomebody_: ok, hehe. It worked. Thanks a lot. This is what I got: http://imagebin.ca/view/TtOINCb.html
[11:12] <javier_> Peace_: http://imagebin.ca/view/TtOINCb.html
[11:12] <javier_> Peace-: http://imagebin.ca/view/TtOINCb.html
[11:20] <javier_> Peace-: could you see it?
[11:22] <Dicekid> Hi, I'd like to ask if someone could help me with a small audio-CD problem, which turned to be not that small... :-)
[11:22] <paulsomebody_> !ask
[11:26] <Dicekid> Sorry. Ok. The problem is, that I can't play any audio-CD in Kubuntu (9.10) 64bit. The CD is correctly recognised by the system and it let me choose from different options what to do. All players I tried even give errors or nothing if I try to play an audio-CD.
[11:26] <javier_> paulsomebody_: have you seen my pastebin? any idea why mi microphone doesn't record?
[11:27] <paulsomebody_> javier_: I haven't, I got disconnected. Please paste again.
[11:27] <javier_> http://imagebin.ca/view/TtOINCb.html
[11:30] <paulsomebody_> javier_: I don't know now. First, please open Kmix, select all possible channels to be displayed and make sure all sliders are up to top, all "Mute" checkboxes are unchecked and all "Capure" flags are set. Probably not the most clever thing to do, but worked for me.
[11:35] <javier_> paulsomebody_: ok :) I got it to work. finally! Thanks a lot, paulsomebody and Peace
[11:36] <paulsomebody_> javier_: The stupidest among all suggestable things worked.
[11:36] <paulsomebody_> javier_: And try QArecord.
[11:36] <javier_> paulsomebody_: another thing, do you know how to use "audacity"? I try to record voice, and now it does, but it only records half a second and not any more, althought the time continues running (don't know why, because it doesnt record)
[11:36] <paulsomebody_> javier_: No, I never used it.
[11:37] <javier_> ok, thanks!
[11:37] <paulsomebody_> javier_: Maybe you should try to find support somewhere at the #audacity or else?
[11:37] <paulsomebody_> javier_: I guessed right, that channel exists/
[11:37] <paulsomebody_> javier_: Try there.
[11:37] <javier_> mhm, that's right
[11:50] <penguin> hi all)
[11:50] <yupyup> :)
[11:52] <Dicekid> At least I found out that I can get all audio files from the audio-CD and copy them to my harddrive and from there I can play them. But why can't I play them directly from the CD?
[11:55] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: I have missed, what is the problem?
[11:56] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ The problem is that my Kubuntu (64bit, Karmic) doesn't play any audio-CD with any player I use.
[11:57] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: This is uncompressed audio?
[11:57] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: I meant, CDDA?
[11:57] <Dicekid> It's a commercial audio-CD...
[11:57] <Guest64060> I have 4 Gb ram, and mi linux -karmic  only see 3.2Gb, what i have to do for take the 4GB?
[11:58] <Peace-> javier_: you have the damend capture to 0
[11:58] <paulsomebody_> Guest64060: It's okay. 32-bit systems can only use 3.25 Gb. If you want it all, see PAE.
[11:58] <paulsomebody_> !pae
[11:58] <Peace-> javier_: of course you can not record capture level is Zero
[11:59] <Guest64060> but installing kernell kubuntu-pae?
[11:59] <paulsomebody_> Guest64060: Do you have it?
[11:59] <paulsomebody_> Guest64060: Already?
[11:59] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ Dolphin shows me the CD as "Volume" and there is a lot of stuff. wav files, ogg files. flac files, cda files, everything as single tracks and the whole CD in the different formats..
[11:59] <Guest64060> no no, i havent
[12:00] <Guest64060> what i have to do? install it and all runs?
[12:00] <paulsomebody_> Guest64060: Than you should if you want. Search more about "Physical Address Extension", I don't know much about it, since I never used it.
[12:01] <Guest64060> oks thanks
[12:02] <Guest64060> the problem is, when i install it, i can uninstall the standard kernell without problems?
[12:02] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ as far as I understand it, it should be uncompressed audio. But how can I find this out?
[12:02] <paulsomebody_> Guest64060: Take a look at the ubuntuforums.org, something like that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331120.
[12:02] <etxia> nba
[12:02] <Guest64060> oks
[12:03] <Guest64060> Thanks !
[12:03] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: If it's .ogg, .flac, and else I think  you need codecs first of all.
[12:04] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ ok, but why does it not play the wav files? And if I copy the ogg files for example to my harddisk, I can play them without problems. Why not directly from CD?
[12:04] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: Than it's not codecs, definetely.
[12:05] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: And to be honest, now I have no ideas.
[12:05] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: Ask others, maybe you could try at the #ubuntu, since this question is not very KDE-specific.
[12:06] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ I'm not sure about this. I think this is something dolphin is doing. Because on another PC with ubuntu this doesn't happen.
[12:07] <malic> i have a problem.. xorg uses 99% CPU when korgac is running...
[12:07] <malic> can you help me?
[12:07] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: Try to play it with Amarok, it is capable of plaing audio CD's.
[12:09] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ I tried amarok and it lists the tracks, but it doesn't play them. It shows them with a tracktime of 00:00
[12:10] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: Then I surely have no idea.
[12:11] <Guest64060> have you installed codecs privativs?
[12:13] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ will try it at the #ubuntu channel.... but thanks anyway :-)
[12:13] <paulsomebody_> Dicekid: Okay.
[12:22] <paulsomebody_> How could I associate apt links in Firefox with KPackageKit, if possible?
[12:27] <Leapo> Ok, guys, I've just had the worst experience in my life attempting to get kubuntu working under VMWare 7...little help?
[12:28] <Leapo> Easy setup messed up at some point and didn't dis-engage, so VMWare Tools didn't get installed. I tried to install them manually, but the system said I didn't have access to necessary resources even though I ran the command with sudo
[12:29] <Leapo> Other weirdness, i changed the resolution to 1680x1050, after a reboot it reverted to 800x600. When I went to change the resolution up to 1680x1050 again, as soon as I opened the display preferences window it snapped back to 1680x1050...but all the fonts on the screen were about 4x too large
[12:29] <Leapo> What the heck is going on?
[12:30] <paulsomebody_> Leapo: I don't know. Have you done an previous research?
[12:30] <Dicekid> paulsomebody_ I played arround a bit more and I get the feeling that kubuntu, dolphin, whoever, doesn't correctly mount the CD.
[12:30] <Leapo> This was the first place I came, I figured someone here would know what the problem is.
[12:32] <Leapo> In my attempts to get vmware tools installed, I rendered kubuntu unbootable. I'm currently waiting for the installer to run again
[12:35] <Leapo> Grr, same problem. Easy Install is sitting there and still running even though ubuntu is already installed.
[12:40] <Leapo> Deas VMWare's "easy install" option not work with the latest version of Kubuntu?
[12:40] <Leapo> *Does
[12:40]  * Leapo tries installing Kubuntu for a 3rd time
[12:41] <Leapo> No ideas huh?
[12:41] <zeropath> Hi, Leapo, are we speaking of Vmware workstation or server and is your host OS Linux or Windows ?
[12:42] <Leapo> VMWare Workstation 7. Host OS shouldn't matter, but it's Windows 7
[12:43] <Leapo> Currently attempting a manual installation...oh that's nice, the loading screen is broken
[12:43] <Leapo> The logo is being rendered twice O_o
[12:43] <zeropath> The logo can render twice
[12:44] <zeropath> Had a similar problem.
[12:45] <zeropath> Leapo, what's you status. I mean, does it go on booting
[12:45] <Leapo> Ok, there goes the manual install
[12:45] <Leapo> zeropath: At the moment, it's installing the OS...again
[12:45] <Leapo> The recent update to Kubuntu obviously broke VMWare's Easy Install scripted installer
[12:45] <Leapo> So I installed it by hand -_-
[12:46] <zeropath> Ok, did the OS ever boot up after install or are you stuck there ?
[12:46] <Leapo> It booted to a desktop, yeah
[12:46] <Leapo> Though since Easy Install wouldn't disengage, it caused all sorts of strangeness
[12:48] <zeropath> Agreed. My host os is Linux and for some reason the Easy Install messed up XP, Vista, Seven, other Linux'es. I try to use the manual install.
[12:48] <Leapo> Hopefully, VMWare Tools will install this time...without making the OS unbootable
[12:48] <zeropath> Leapo: How do you install the VMWare Tools (sorry I have to ask)
[12:49] <Leapo> Exactly as VMWare directions dictated
[12:49] <Leapo> popped open the console, typed in their commands like a trained monkey :-P
[12:50] <Leapo> (there really should be a file association to allow double-click > install for those types of files)
[12:51] <zeropath> OK, first when you get the desktop, start Kpackagekit and do all the updates. I know there was a small kernel issue. Once it's fully updated, reboot the virtual machine and install the vmware-tools as you did previously.
[12:51] <zeropath> It should work fine.
[12:52] <Leapo> ok, lets see...
[12:52] <zeropath> Leapo: small question, it's not a Windows 7 Home edition I hope
[12:53] <Leapo> No, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit...why do you ask?
[12:53] <zeropath> Because the Home edition has issues with virtualization in every direction, but Ultimate is fine.
[12:53] <zeropath> I mean Home Basic
[12:54] <Leapo> Well yeah, that's home basic :-P
[12:54] <zeropath> :-)
[12:54] <Leapo> That doesn't even support aero glass
[12:54] <Leapo> lol
[12:54] <Leapo> No updates found
[12:54] <Leapo> that...or there's no network adapter installed because VMWare Tools isn't installed yet
[12:55] <Leapo> Though I thought large linux distros like this would include network drivers for virtualization built in...
[12:55] <zeropath> careful, click on Software Updates, refresh
[12:56] <Leapo> Yeah, I know. Nothing there
[12:56] <zeropath> Leapo :Normally the network drivers work fine. Had no issues with that whatsoever.
[12:56] <rstob911> Leapo: are you using vmware server or player
[12:56] <zeropath> Could you try to surf ?
[12:56] <Leapo> ...I just said VMWare Workstation 7
[12:57] <Leapo> Uh...what's the deal with Firefox not working? It has the installer listed int he applications menu, but not the actual web browser
[12:57] <Leapo> and when I click it, it just says it's alread installed...
[12:58] <zeropath> You can use the Konqueror, it's just to check if your network is working.
[12:58] <Leapo> No networking
[12:58] <Leapo> I imagine vmware tools includes the driver
[12:59] <zeropath> Leapo: No Windows 7 firewall blocking ? Vmware Tools does not include the network drivers, Vmware Workstation does.
[12:59] <Leapo> That last part didn't make any sense
[13:00] <Leapo> VMWare workstation is the virtualization application itself, vmware tools is the package installed on the guest operating systems within VMWare Workstation.
[13:00] <Leapo> And no, the firewall is fine. My other virtual machine have internet access
[13:00] <zeropath> Well, when you install VM WS 7 the network drivers are included in WS 7, you don't need the Vmware tools.
[13:01] <Leapo> Nice, Ark just crashed...
[13:01] <Leapo> zeropath: You aren't making sense mate...
[13:02] <Leapo> Workstation 7 installs on the host, not the guest
[13:02] <Leapo> Just installing an OS within Workstation 7 doesn't automatically give it networking drivers :-P
[13:05] <Leapo> Well, i did the same thing I did last time, and vmware tools managed to install correctly
[13:05] <Leapo> kubuntu has officially met the requirements for the definition of insanity >.<
[13:06] <rstob911> agreed
[13:08] <vbgunz> anybody have firefox? when you click on the page, say no where just on the page (usually for me it's all the way to the right of the page), you get a blinking background or overlay on the whole page? what is causing this?
[13:09] <Leapo> Ok, now it's all gone screwy again
[13:09] <Leapo> I changed the resolution from 800x600 to 1680x1050, and now all the text is too large again
[13:10] <Leapo> And not having internet access is going to be a problem
[13:11] <Leapo> I don't get it, normal Ubuntu had networking right out of the box on VMware. Why is Kubuntu so troubled?
[13:12] <rstob911> Leapo: your using 9.10 right
[13:12] <Leapo> Yeah, latest
[13:13] <rstob911> i have it running in vmware
[13:13] <Leapo> So do I, but almost nothing works...
[13:14] <Leapo> Changing the resolution causes text to go way too large
[13:14] <Leapo> And the resolution snaps back to 800x600 every time I reboot the VM
[13:14] <rstob911> everything works on mine 1280x800
[13:15] <rstob911> i have to reset my video also everytime
[13:15] <Leapo> After installing VMWare Tools, I have networking
[13:15] <Leapo> rstob911: But what about text size? Why does mine keep going oversized?
[13:16] <rstob911> dont know about that try a lower resolution
[13:16] <Leapo> Why? My monitors native resolution is 1680x1050...
[13:17] <rstob911> to see if it works right at lower resolution just to see
[13:17] <Leapo> Screenshot of how broken is instantly becomes when the resolution is set to anything but 800x600: http://kimag.es/share/55285489.png
[13:18] <Leapo> Just tried 1280x800, same issue
[13:18] <Leapo> All window text is, obviously, way too large
[13:19] <Leapo> Oh, that's cute, system settings refuses to open now
[13:19] <rstob911> Leapo: what is this screen resolution
[13:19] <Leapo> rstob911: The screenshot was at 1680x1050
[13:19] <rstob911> what is wrong with that
[13:19] <Leapo> Nope, now I can't change anything. THe System Settings window will not open
[13:20] <Leapo> rstob911: You don't see that all the text on the window is gigantic?
[13:20] <rstob911> hit ctrl- if you want smaller
[13:20] <Leapo> uh, wrong
[13:21] <Leapo> Not the text in the browser...though that's too big as well
[13:21] <Leapo> The actual text of all the window controls is too big
[13:21] <Leapo> There we go, got System Settings to open...
[13:22] <rstob911> i guess i cant see it in the picture
[13:22] <Leapo> rstob911: Here, look at how large all the text in System Settings became http://kimag.es/share/63844947.png
[13:22] <Leapo> How can you not see that? >_>
[13:23] <rstob911> that looks normal to me cause im half blind anyway :)
[13:23] <Leapo> it's way, way, WAY too large
[13:25] <Leapo> This is the size everything is supposed to be http://kimag.es/share/35587843.png
[13:25] <Leapo> But As soon as I change the screen resolution to a proper value...all the text goes screwy
[13:25] <Leapo> little help here? O_O
[13:27] <djtoast> Hi all, I just switched over to kde from gnome an i like it alot except for the sticky notes.  In Gnome it used to auto hide when clicking the desktop.  Is there a way to use that gnome stickynotes app in kde?
[13:31] <rstob911> djtoast: right click on the desktop and click add widget look for the stickey note thingey in there
[13:32] <djtoast> rstob911 - i did but its not like the one in gnome where it auto hides and stuff
[13:34] <Leapo> Ok, this is pretty much unusable. The desktop resolution doesn't stick, and when you change it to anything other than 800x600, the text blows up to gigantic proportions :-(
[13:37] <Leapo> I also can't enable any desktop effects...well not with compositing type set to OpenGL. XRender works.
[13:39] <Leapo> But XRender is slow, and VMWare 7 supports full hardware acceleration of DirectX and OpenGL
[13:42] <tim_> Hi I'm pretty new to kubuntu and I'm having a bit trouble using wifi as it connot authorise with my modem even though I have used the correct password 3 times any solutions why?
[13:43] <Leapo> Now that the VM has net access, I'm installing updates
[13:43] <Leapo> lets hope this fixes it
[14:00] <paulsomebody__> Leapo: Are you sure that VMWare supports full hardware acceleration?
[14:00] <malic> where can i change the workspace design?
[14:00] <Leapo> Yes, very
[14:00] <Leapo> I've run Crysis in it, only about 10% slower than native performance
[14:00] <paulsomebody__> malic: Design? Did you meant Plasma theme?
[14:01] <malic> yes
[14:01] <Leapo> I've also run a few OpenGL games like Quake 3 in it
[14:01] <paulsomebody__> !wifi @ tim_
[14:01] <Leapo> Oh, and of course, Windows Aero work sin it :-P
[14:01] <paulsomebody__> !wifi
[14:01] <Leapo> *works in
[14:01] <malic> i mean the plasma theme.. paulsome
[14:01] <paulsomebody__> tim_: Take a look.
[14:02] <paulsomebody__> malic: In the System settings or right-clicking in the desktop.
[14:02] <malic> i have upgraded to kde sc and now this option disappeared in the menu where i can also change the wallpaper
[14:04] <Leapo> grr, For some reason, OpenGL isn't working under kubuntu
[14:06] <Leapo> And Jockey just crashed...
[14:08] <malic> paulsome : is there an option in the "desktop right-click" menu?
[14:08] <Leapo> You know what, that's it, kubuntu is getting deleted. There's no way to get it working properly...
[14:10] <jatt> I'm new to kubuntu, what's the "Desktop Folder" about?
[14:11] <Leapo> jatt: As far as I can tell, you can't actually put icons on the desktop, just in that weird glassy pane thing
[14:12] <jatt> oh I see
[14:12] <paulsomebody__> jatt: Actually you can, if application supports it. Try right-clicking Firefox Web Browser or Amarok icon in the menu.
[14:13]  * Leapo dumps KDE like yesterdays garbage and goes back to normal Ubuntu
[14:14]  * paulsomebody__ weaves goodbye to Leapo.
[14:14] <Leapo> Good luck jatt, you'll need it >_>
[14:15] <jatt> hehe
[14:15] <jatt> actually I liked this kde version a lot have been using for a few minutes only though (I'm gnome user)
[14:19] <jason_> What does Amarok NEED to play audio? just medibuntu? or w32 codecs as well?
[14:25] <leo_> hello I have a new external hard drive it has 500 gb but linux only know 4mb someone can help me, please?
[14:26] <paulsomebody_> leo_: What do you mean saying "only know"?
[14:27] <leo_> only 4mb of capacity
[14:27] <leo_> is recognited
[14:27] <leo_> by linux
[14:28] <jason_> how is it partitioned?
[14:29] <jason_> what file system?
[14:29] <leo_> how can I format it, gparted?
[14:29] <jason_> yes
[14:29] <shadeslayer> leo_: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX
[14:29] <jason_> open gparted, in the upper right corner, select the drive
[14:29] <jason_> tell us what is in the main center of the screen when you select that drive
[14:29] <leo_> ok I try it
[14:30] <leo_> thank you
[14:30] <jason_> that'll give us a better indication on what file system is on it, how much space, etc
[14:30] <jason_> is this a BRAND new drive?
[14:30] <jatt> how do I get the kde version?
[14:30] <leo_> thank u
[14:30] <jason_> jatt - kde version of what? gparted?
[14:31] <jatt> of the desktop is there an About KDE menu item?
[14:31] <jason_> ohhh
[14:31] <jason_> jatt - thats easy.
[14:31] <leo_> what is the best way to give format
[14:32] <leo_> ext3?
[14:32] <paulsomebody_> jatt: In the every application there is a "About KDE" in "Help" section.
[14:32] <jason_> jatt - open any KDE application (konqueror, dolphin, amarok, etc)
[14:32] <jason_> and go to "HELP" and hit About KDE
[14:32] <jason_> leo - what are you using this hard drive for?
[14:32] <jason_> leo - linux only? linux and windows? mass storage of large files?
[14:32] <jatt> oh I see, thanks!
[14:32] <jason_> leo - because your intended uses of the drive would better indicate which of the many file systems would suit you best.
[14:32] <jason_> leo - by the way, is this a brand new, never used hard drive?
[14:32] <leo_> music, films programs, home copy....
[14:33] <leo_> only linux
[14:33] <leo_> windows in virtualbox
[14:33] <jason_> so you wont use this drive with windows at all?
[14:33] <leo_> no
[14:33] <jason_> okay
[14:33] <jason_> I'd choose EXT3 if it were me.
[14:33] <jason_> FAT32 works with linux and windows but cannot store files that are individually more than 4gb in size.
[14:34] <jason_> NTFS isnt a bad choice either since it can handle more than FAT32 but, blah, if youre going linux only, I'd use EXT3 so youre using a more native file system :P
[14:35] <leo_> ok
[14:35] <leo_> thank you
[14:35] <jason_> no problem, leo
[14:35] <jason_> happy linux-ing :P
[14:35] <leo_> jejeje
[14:36] <leo_> a question more, I use linux mint you think that would be a good idea change to tuquito 3.1
[14:36] <leo_> a question more, I use linux mint, do you think that would be a good idea change to tuquito 3.1
[14:38] <paulsomebody> jason_: Isn't Ext4 good enough now?
[14:39] <jatt> ext4 is not stable enough
[14:40] <rstob911> thats for sure
[14:40] <leo_> gparted doesn't leave delete partions in my lacie
[14:41] <Tm_T> jatt: how it is not stable enough?
[14:42] <jatt> google "ext4 corruption", lots of recent reports
[14:43] <Tm_T> jatt: you can find same with any filesystem
[14:43] <malic> how can i change the plasma design in kde sc 4.4 ?
[14:43] <jason_> paulsomebody - I use EXT4 as the main file system on all 4 of my hard drives in my system, all of which are constantly pushing data to and from, seeing as though 2 of them are backup drives. 1 main, 1 backup. 1 file server drive, 1 backup of that.
[14:43] <jason_> I've never had any sort of issues with EXT4.
[14:43] <jason_> in my experience, it's just as reliable as EXT3, simply because i've never had an issue with either.
[14:44] <rstob911> example one i tried to use ext4 with kubuntu everything went fine then suddenly everything froze up did it about six times then i reinstalled using ext3 havent had a problem yet
[14:44] <jatt> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Possible%20corruption%20of%20large%20files%20with%20ext4%20filesystem
[14:44] <jason_> It's also important to look at the dates on that. When EXT4 came out, it had problems. Guess what else had problems when it came out? EXT3.
[14:45] <jason_> It's expected when a new FS hits the main stream, in my opinion.
[14:45] <jatt> my point is ext3 is more stable than ext4. If you want to experiment, ext4 is fine.
[14:45] <jason_> While I agree EXT3 is more stable than EXT4, I would never consider using EXT4 experimental.
[14:46] <jason_> 12 months ago maybe, but not today.
[14:46] <jason_> in fact we're even running it on our one *buntu server now that I think about it...
[14:46] <paulsomebody> jason_: As I can understand Kubuntu installer uses Ext3 by default?
[14:46] <jason_> paulsomebody - it's irrelevant whether it's kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, etc. what matters is the version.
[14:46] <jason_> 9.04 came with EXT3 by default, but EXT4 as an option since it was new.
[14:47] <jason_> 9.10 defaults to EXT4, but has ext2 and 3 as options.
[14:47] <paulsomebody> jason_: Okay.
[14:47] <jason_> that's another reason EXT3 is more suited for linux-only external hard drives moreso than EXT4. The current LTS is 8.04, and there's still people running 8.10 and such because it just works for them. Those systems wouldn't pick up EXT4.
[14:48] <jason_> It's just a matter of compatibility and what supports what, etc. :)
[14:48] <rstob911> i think you should use what works for you if it works dont mess with it
[14:48] <jason_> agreed.
[14:48] <malic> help
[14:48] <jason_> and regardless of what file system you use, do backups. Period. There's no excuse to not do backups.
[14:48] <jason_> I have an automatic sync backup that runs every 12 hours to back my data up.
[14:49] <rstob911> malic: go ahead ask your question
[14:51] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:51] <malic> i upgraded to kde sc 4.4 beta and now my old plasma theme is very ugly. Therefore i tried to change it, but the option disappeard in the menu where i can for example change the background wallpaper. Where is this option?
[14:51] <rstob911> wb BluesKaj
[14:56] <jason_> the option is just flat out... not there??
[14:56] <jason_> is this something known with 4.4 beta?
[14:56] <jason_> ps when people say plasma theme, what are they referring to? Is that the panel, or what?  (sorta knew to the kde things)
[14:58] <yofel> jason_: to change to plasma-theme go to system-settings->appearance->style->workspace
[14:59] <yofel> jason_: and plasma is somewhat the whole desktop workspace including panel, widgets, ...
[15:02] <jason_> so when I change "the theme" its just the panel, but the plasma theme is kind of everything integrated together?
[15:03] <snarkster> upgraded my server to 9.10 and lost usb, raid array, eth0
[15:03] <snarkster> Im working on reinstalling from cd to see if that fixes things.
[15:03] <snarkster> if i can find away to get the logs off the system ill post them for all to see.
[15:03] <paulsomebody> jason_: Plasma is technology standing behind visual appearance of KDE, it's theme normally changes look of everything.
[15:04] <jason_> snarkster - its a server edition? or a kde desktop acting as a server?
[15:05] <snarkster> kde desktop acting as a server.
[15:05] <snarkster> just a file server, nothing heavy like email
[15:05] <snarkster> but it is commercial grade hardware..
[15:05] <snarkster> I  just went back and took a look, server is stopped dead with kernel panic coming from cd
[15:06] <snarkster> 9.10 is not so good on that machine, works great on my laptop
[15:06] <jason_> nothing wrong with running a kde desktop as a server, as long as you arent somebody who requires the absolute minimal overhead possible where using the actual server edition (no gui) would apply
[15:07] <jason_> did you fire up the livecd and use it prior to installing?
[15:07] <snarkster> jason_ right..
[15:07] <snarkster> i just tried to fireup the live cd.. produced kernel panic and stops dead
[15:07] <snarkster> cant boot from usb, its a bios thing. LOL
[15:08] <snarkster> this is a netvista x200 dual proc 1Ghz, 3gigs of ram
[15:08] <jason_> hmm...
[15:08] <jason_> so youre not booting off of the drives
[15:08] <jason_> just the livecd
[15:08] <jason_> and it backfires??
[15:08] <snarkster> using a 30 gig system drive, and 573 gigs of raid5 array off an DPT I2o card
[15:09] <snarkster> right
[15:09] <jason_> you were running 9.04 previously?
[15:09] <snarkster> booting from live cd dies
[15:09] <snarkster> yes I was
[15:09] <jason_> booting from livecd isnt a good thing man...
[15:09] <jason_> its one thing to install and have issues
[15:09] <snarkster> if i boot from hard drive, alot of things no longer work at all..
[15:09] <jason_> this doesnt work or that, etc
[15:09] <jason_> it sounds like that karmic kernel hates you :P
[15:09] <snarkster> yes
[15:09] <jason_> I had similar issues with it on my desktop
[15:10] <snarkster> deffinately a kernel thing
[15:10] <jason_> my desktop has 4 drives in it, no raid whatsoever, yet gparted in the installer kept seeing 2 drives as raid and it would screw things up bad
[15:10] <jason_> so I stuck with 9.04
[15:10] <jason_> didnt bother with 9.10
[15:10] <jason_> however 9.10 is great on my spare rig an dmy laptop Im on now
[15:10] <snarkster> well ive never run into a problem on this machine, untill now.. LOL shame I need it working as well
[15:10] <jason_> I cant really offer any help because I just pulled the plug when the same thing happened to me.
[15:10] <jason_> but you didnt use the livecd beforehand?
[15:11] <snarkster> now I did a dist upgrade
[15:11] <paulsomebody> jason_: By the way, what is your advice of doing backups?
[15:11] <snarkster> no i mean
[15:11] <jason_> upgrades :(
[15:11] <snarkster> well that machine was started out on 7.04 and just upgraded since untill now
[15:12] <snarkster> now Im screwed
[15:12] <jason_> yeah
[15:12] <jason_> I don't know man. I don't do upgrades unless I absolutely positively have to.
[15:12] <jason_> that goes for linux, windows, everything.
[15:12] <snarkster> yah, im not to bright about that.. LOL "oh look a new shiny, must have"
[15:13] <jason_> snarkster - how are your partitions set up?
[15:13] <jason_> and how is this server working? samba file services?
[15:14] <snarkster> um i think the system drive 30 gig is one partition as I dont saver personal information on it at all, the raid is set up for client data
[15:14] <snarkster> usually i have 1 part for system 1 part for home
[15:14] <jason_> so the important data is on another drive?
[15:14] <snarkster> i guess I better redownload 9.04 and reinstall
[15:15] <snarkster> oh yes the raid drives hold alot of client backup data
[15:15] <jason_> I would man. 9.10's default kernel had some issues with certain hardware. I first hand saw it.
[15:15] <jason_> snarkster - well, if you want to be smart about trying to restore/reinstall a system with important data, do you have an external or some other form of storage media?
[15:15] <snarkster> yah I might get the src for 9.10 and compile my own kernal
[15:15] <jason_> because I'd fire up the livecd, browse to the data and back that up to another source, just in case.
[15:15] <snarkster> i do have some small drives around
[15:16] <jason_> I like seeing the data in a 2nd, completely separate location before I crash something
[15:16] <snarkster> the raids are shutdown now, data integreity is good.
[15:16] <jason_> and just go through the partition menu slow tomake sure that little checkbox for format is pointing to the right drive :P
[15:16] <snarkster> i would show you a picture, but I dont know how to do that
[15:16] <snarkster> LOL
[15:17] <jason_> haha, yeah man
[15:17] <jason_> well sorry I couldnt be more definitive on the issue, but the fact the livecd bombs out doesnt sound good
[15:17] <jason_> like I said, I had the same issue with karmic's default kernel not detecting my drives properly
[15:17] <snarkster> 3 raid5 towers with 8 drives apiece
[15:17] <jason_> I avoided it all together
[15:17] <snarkster> yup
[15:17] <snarkster> ok thanx for your help
[15:17] <jason_> in fact I even booted up a GParted LiveCD with the same kernel as Karmic
[15:17] <jason_> same issue
[15:18] <jason_> so it doesnt sound like a real *buntu thing
[15:18] <andrei> hello
[15:18] <jason_> but sadly, if the default kernel sucks, itll be kinda hard to upgrade :P
[15:18] <snarkster> its a kernel thing
[15:18] <jason_> whats up andrei
[15:18] <andrei> i have a little problem..:)
[15:18] <jason_> whats that?
[15:19] <andrei> sometimes the resolution is 640X480 when i start the pc
[15:19] <andrei> and i cant't change it
[15:19] <andrei> i restart the pc several times, and after one hour or so it changes back to usual res
[15:20] <jason_> it just magicaly changes without logging out/back in or rebooting?
[15:20] <andrei> sorry if it's a stupid question, but i'm a newbe
[15:20] <snarkster> how do i download an older version of kubuntu
[15:20] <jason_> snarkster - one sec
[15:20] <andrei> after rebooting
[15:21] <jason_> snarkster - Kubuntu?
[15:21] <jason_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/
[15:21] <jason_> andrei - how are you changing your resolution
[15:21] <snarkster> so if you run krandr you cant change the resolution
[15:21] <snarkster> thanx J
[15:21] <andrei> from system conf
[15:21] <jason_> krandr doesnt auto start upon system start
[15:21] <jason_> you have to add it to startup
[15:21] <jason_> under the advanced tab
[15:22] <jason_> krandr works on the desktop layer, not xorg. so when you boot up the resolution will suck, and then after 2-3 secs itll quick revert it as the rest of the system loads.
[15:22] <andrei> tnx
[15:22] <andrei> i'll try now
[15:23] <jason_> I assume you found the autostart menu?
[15:23] <andrei> yes
[15:23] <jason_> also - what video card are you running?
[15:24] <andrei> nvidia 5500
[15:24] <jason_> did you install the nvidia drivers?
[15:24] <andrei> yes
[15:24] <andrei> i'm at autostart, but what now?
[15:25] <andrei> i searched krandr in programs and in packages too, but i don't find it
[15:26] <jason_> kranrd is already installed
[15:26] <jason_> one second Ill walk you through it
[15:26] <jason_> lemme open it
[15:26] <snarkster> hit alt-f2 type krandr
[15:26] <jason_> okay are you in the autostart menu?
[15:26] <andrei> yesz
[15:26] <jason_> pretty blank screen?
[15:26] <jason_> k, right side - add program
[15:26] <andrei> yes
[15:27] <jason_> then hit the drop down for "system"
[15:27] <jason_> KRandRTray is what you want
[15:27] <andrei> yes, i found it
[15:27] <jason_> when you boot up, itll be the old resolution for just a second or two
[15:27] <jason_> then it should fire back to whatever KRandR is set to
[15:27] <jason_> however, I have tow onder
[15:28] <jason_> do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[15:28] <snarkster> 1h13m to get 9.04 back.. sheesh
[15:28] <jason_> looks like someone has a slow outbound pipe :P
[15:28] <jason_> only took me about 15 mins to download *buntu iso's
[15:28] <andrei> yes i have them installed
[15:29] <snarkster> doesnt help that Im wireless on this machine
[15:29] <jason_> andrei - do you have the nvidia settings control panel?
[15:29] <jason_> snarkster - nope :(
[15:29] <andrei> yes
[15:29] <jason_> snarkster - I tried updating about 40 XP Pro laptops with 62 windows updates yesterday on 1 access point
[15:29] <snarkster> :P jason_
[15:29] <jason_> everything bombed out and clocked in at 2.2mbps speed
[15:29] <jason_> versus the usual 54mbps
[15:29] <paulsomebody> I have a trouble installing Google Earth with KPackageKit. Is this known bug?
[15:29] <snarkster> LOL
[15:29] <jason_> paulsomebody - google earth is part of the medibuntu repo I believe
[15:29] <jason_> sudo apt-get install googleearth should do the trick
[15:30] <jason_> andrei - why dont you change the resolution in the nvidia control panel?
[15:30] <snarkster> if the repo is intalled
[15:30] <jason_> yes, if its installed
[15:30] <jason_> I was just assuming it was cause thats the first thing I always do
[15:30] <andrei> i can't. the only res availeble are 320X.. and 640X480
[15:30] <paulsomebody> jason_: I know that. Problem is: KPackageKit cannot install it.
[15:31] <jason_> paulsomebody - well, I'm not too positive. I would assume the package "googleearth" would be the one you'd want. however I don't know how adding the medibuntu repo adds google earth. I'm not sure how it's displayed or what. I just know it's "there" to grab via terminal.
[15:32] <paulsomebody> jason_: Okay.
[15:32] <andrei> i'll restart now. brb
[15:33] <paulsomebody> jason_: I have forgot that this "KPackageKit" cannot show EULA's.
[15:33] <jason_> does synaptic?
[15:33] <paulsomebody> jason_: Then, it cannot install any package that needs it. Synaptic can, yes.
[15:34] <jason_> paulsomebody - well you know you can run synaptic on kde right?
[15:34] <snarkster> ok just added the medibuntu repo, googelearth shows up in kpackage
[15:34] <jason_> paulsomebody - although I prefer kpackagekit's layout, I have synaptic installed too
[15:34] <jason_> snarkster - good stuff. can you install that hizzy from kpackagekit?
[15:34] <snarkster> working
[15:35] <jason_> snarkster - whatd you do, just select googleearth to DL and blam - it ran through?
[15:35] <snarkster> its downloading
[15:35] <jason_> snarkster - let me know if it fires up then in the menu.
[15:35] <jason_> I just installed mine from terminal sooooo :P I dont know how it owrks with kpackage
[15:35] <Kovert> ANy one know if there is a repository for thunderbird 3
[15:35] <snarkster> 3m37s
[15:35] <snarkster> probably a ppa for that
[15:36] <jason_> is T3 still in beta?
[15:37] <Kovert> T3 is out iof beta
[15:37] <snarkster> ok googleearth just installed from KPK with no problem
[15:38] <jason_> snarkster - you have it running from the Kickoff - Internet menu?
[15:39] <Kovert> Ok I am guessing no repository for Thunderbird 3
[15:39] <snarkster> not showing up in lancelot
[15:39] <paulsomebody> jason_: Ha-ha, it works.
[15:40] <snarkster> when i type googleearth in lancelots serach bar nothing comes up
[15:40] <jason_> paulsomebody - what? google earth from kpackagekit?
[15:40] <paulsomebody> jason_: No, from 'apt-get'.
[15:40] <jason_> snarkster - lancelot?
[15:41] <paulsomebody> snarkster: That's why it's two separate words.
[15:41] <snarkster> oh hahaha
[15:41] <snarkster> no matches found
[15:42] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Install it via the 'apt-get', it's capable of displaying licenses.
[15:42] <snarkster> right thats the problem
[15:42] <snarkster> it istalled the data not the executable
[15:42] <jason_> snarkster - Im lost. what are you doing now? googleearth wont work now?
[15:43] <Evot_> transduct
[15:43] <andrei> hello again. i still have that problem
[15:43] <andrei> i made a print screen
[15:43] <jason_> can you throw it on imageshack.com for us to see?
[15:43] <snarkster> no it works it wont install via kpk cause kpk cant handle ;icense dialogs.. (stupid)
[15:43] <andrei> http://lh6.ggpht.com/_OVRB-rTvNrc/Szt0kCJeNoI/AAAAAAAAAog/yLdfs8M5l1c/s512/snapshot.png
[15:43] <jason_> snarkster - so howd you install it?
[15:44] <rstob911> sm2iar: look in lancelot internet then other if it is thr=ere
[15:44] <jason_> gahhhhhhhhh
[15:44] <jason_> that site is blocked through my work filter
[15:44] <jason_> "adult material"
[15:44] <jason_> snark can you see his link?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> what's the app/command for listing hardwarw and RAM etc?
[15:44] <paulsomebody> jason_: Have it.
[15:44] <snarkster> well i downloaded it with KPK and then just opened konsole and did apt-get install googleearth and it installed it
[15:44] <paulsomebody> jason_: http://pastebin.ca/1731899
[15:44] <rstob911> snarkster:  look in lancelot internet then other if it is thr=ere
[15:45] <snarkster> its there
[15:45] <snarkster> works good to
[15:46] <jason_> k
[15:46] <jason_> andrei - whats in the drop down list where you see CRT
[15:46] <jason_> above the resolution
[15:46] <snarkster> took me straight to my house
[15:46] <jason_> is ther esomething else there?
[15:47] <paulsomebody> People, do anyone know, can I use 3D hardware acceleration in VMWare Player?
[15:47] <rstob911> no it wont let you use the compositing in vmware
[15:48] <snarkster> paulsomebody: no you cant
[15:48] <andrei> jason_ it's TV0
[15:49] <jason_> TV...
[15:49] <jason_> what else is hooked into this computer man?
[15:49] <andrei> nothing
[15:49] <andrei> just the CRT
[15:50] <jason_> and you have nvidia drivers installed........
[15:50] <jason_> yet it only finds those resolutions........
[15:51] <andrei> yes...i've reinstalled the divers several times
[15:51] <jason_> weird...
[15:51] <jason_> what size CRT?
[15:51] <jason_> what nvidia drivers?
[15:51] <jason_> how did you get the nvidia drivers? through hardware manager?
[15:52] <andrei> yes
[15:52] <andrei> the crt size is 17''
[15:52] <jason_> man
[15:52] <jason_> Im not too sure now
[15:53] <jason_> did you post on forums?
[15:53] <andrei> not yet
[15:53] <snarkster> i always use envyng to get my video drivers, never have any problems with that
[15:53] <rstob911> andrei: paste a copy of your xorg file
[15:54] <andrei> sorry for this stupid question, but where i find it?
[15:54] <jason_> envyng
[15:54] <jason_> man
[15:54] <jason_> I havent used that in a hot second
[15:54] <jason_> been about 3 or 4 years since I touched it.
[15:54] <snarkster> works great
[15:55] <jason_> ever since nvidia got better with their control panel I never had a need to go back
[15:55] <snarkster> but YMMV
[15:55] <rstob911> andrei: etc/x11
[15:55] <KiRiLoS> andrei, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:56] <KiRiLoS> andrei, Copy everything in there and paste it here : http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:56] <millun__> ffmpeg -vcodec libxvid -b 4096 -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -g 300 -i "ac.avi" -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 -acodec aac -ab 128 -ar 48000 -ac 2 -benchmark "ac.mp4"
[15:56] <millun__> anybody knows what i'm doing wrong? it complains about libxvid
[15:56] <jason_> I just installed envyng
[15:56] <jason_> where the flip does it go
[15:56] <jason_> I opened it nad after 15 secs it disappeared
[15:56] <snarkster> system
[15:57] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Is this Player specific or this applies to all VM products?
[15:57] <snarkster> did you install the envyng-qt package as well?
[15:57] <jason_> no I didnt
[15:57] <jason_> oops
[15:57] <snarkster> i believe all VM products do that
[15:57] <rstob911> paulsomebody: all vm products
[15:57] <andrei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/349129/
[15:58] <KiRiLoS> jason_, you should install envyng-qt for the Qt Frontend,or you can use it from the terminal, envyng is the command
[15:58] <snarkster> paulsomebody: nature of the beast
[15:58] <jason_> snarkster - question about envyng
[15:58] <jason_> its a stupid one though
[15:58] <snarkster> shoot
[15:58] <jason_> so I fire it up and I see ATI and Nvidia here in 2 columns
[15:58] <paulsomebody> snarkster: What about this http://pastebin.ca/1731899 ?
[15:58] <jason_> Im on an intel graphics card laptop
[15:58] <snarkster> ok
[15:59] <snarkster> it doesnt support intel
[15:59] <jason_> snarkster - all of the columns have a checkbox, but its a red X in the checkbox. At first glance I was like wtf everything is compatible? (noticing everything is listed there)
[15:59] <jason_> but if its compatible would I see a green check instead?
[15:59] <jason_> yeah I didnt assume it was. I just wanted to install it to check out the interface.
[15:59] <jason_> intel video cards are pretty bamf with linux anyway :P
[15:59] <KiRiLoS> yes you should see a green one jason_  but since you are using intel graphics none of these is compatible
[16:00] <snarkster> red x is not compatible
[16:00] <snarkster> paulsomebody: wow
[16:00] <jason_> yeah, Id idnt think it was. But like I said, just seeing ANYTHING in there made me (at first glance) be like wtf cause I thought it was
[16:00] <jason_> but I gotcha's now
[16:00] <jason_> how does envyng work exactly? Is it just to make installing graphics drivers easier? Or does it provide any additional benefit to warrant using it over the nvidia installer?
[16:01] <jason_> cause the hardware manager comes down and is like Yo! Video drivers! Here!.
[16:01] <jason_> wasnt sure if envyng had something else on top of it oto
[16:01] <paulsomebody> snarkster: I just wanted to know does this apply just to Workstation or also to Player, that
[16:01] <paulsomebody> is the reason why I asked.
[16:01] <andrei> any sugestions?
[16:01] <rstob911> andrei: what card di you have
[16:01] <rstob911> do
[16:01] <andrei> nvidia 5200
[16:01] <rstob911> fx right
[16:02] <andrei> yes
[16:02] <snarkster> sorry was afk
[16:02] <rstob911> ok try to use the 185 driver in the hardware driver thingy
[16:02] <snarkster> dog got out
[16:02] <snarkster> paulsomebody:no its all VM products.. cause its not using your native hardware
[16:03] <snarkster> see its using virtual hardware..
[16:03] <snarkster> the host system can have acceleration but the the vm cant
[16:04] <andrei> there are only 2 versions: 96 and 173
[16:04] <snarkster> "hardware driver thingy" LOL
[16:04] <snarkster> FTW
[16:04] <rstob911> andrei: use the 173
[16:04] <andrei> that's what i'm using
[16:04] <jason_> that comment wins
[16:05] <jason_> install the thing you found in the thing when you were running the other thing
[16:05] <snarkster> LMAO
[16:05] <paulsomebody> snarkster: And it have quite a list of limitations.
[16:05] <snarkster> thats not confusing at all, not even alittle bit
[16:06] <jason_> snarkster - if you close envyng by hitting "quit" does it come up and say it crashed, even though you closed it?
[16:06] <rstob911> andrei: try the 96 driver then
[16:06] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Hmm. And maybe this would make me capable of running games in the guest system?
[16:06] <snarkster> yes well VM wasnt made for common users to run multiple OS. it was made for server to be used more effeciently.. it can be used for users to run multi OS, but your stuck with its limitations
[16:07] <snarkster> have yu thought about XEN
[16:07] <snarkster> maybe XEN is different than a standard vm product
[16:07] <rstob911> andrei: because your xorg file is not at all right
[16:08] <snarkster> qemu with the kvm works pretty good to
[16:08] <andrei> and how it should be?
[16:08] <snarkster> I have been using wine to play games for awhile, but when my game stopped working in wine, i just reinstalled the dreaded os so i can play
[16:08] <rstob911> let me give you a copy of mine so you can use it as refrence
[16:08] <jason_> rstob911 - what could he do? Could he boot into safe mode as kubuntu loads and nuke/rebuild the xorg file?
[16:09] <jason_> snarkster - you see wha tI asked about envyng?
[16:09] <jason_> snarkster - no shame in using windows for gaming. After all, what do console gamers use to play their games? A console. I just use an OS to play my games. :)
[16:09] <rstob911> jason_: or go into a terminal and type apt-get update
[16:09] <jason_> how does apt-get update nuke and rebuild your xorg?
[16:10] <jason_> Im just curious cause last week my kubuntu laptop stopped showing me the login screne. I was screwing around with video settings and something went wrong when I rebooted.
[16:10] <jason_> it would show the splash screen, then nothing, it just went blank.
[16:10] <jason_> I didnt know how to nuke my xorg and rebuild it without redoing the system and I needed it running asap
[16:10] <rstob911> it shouldnt looks to me like it wasnt configured right to begin with jason_
[16:11] <paulsomebody> jason_: I took a look, that's promising. Thank you!
[16:11] <jason_> took a look at what?
[16:11] <andrei> i've installed the 96. i'll reboot now
[16:12] <jason_> rstob911 - when you uninstall a driver like andrei just did, and reinstall a different (or even the same driver again) does it nuke/rebuild xorg?
[16:12] <rstob911> yes it does only after full reboot
[16:13] <snarkster> always backup your xorg.
[16:13] <rstob911> i have a backup file on cd for both my systems
[16:13] <snarkster> but then again this new linux doesnt really use the xorg.conf file anymore.. its mostly all automatic
[16:14] <jason_> my xorg is backed up :)
[16:14] <jason_> when I switched from ubuntu to kubuntu I backed it up
[16:14] <snarkster> 25 mo  min
[16:14] <jason_> in 20 seconds I had my dual screen twin view setup bakc
[16:14] <rstob911> also on a flash drive lol
[16:15] <andrei> still the same
[16:15] <rstob911> andrei: http://paste.ubuntu.com/349136/
[16:15] <paulsomebody> jason_: XEN.
[16:15] <jason_> I didnt suggest XEN
[16:15] <jason_> I think snark did
[16:16] <paulsomebody> jason_: Yes, really.
[16:16] <snarkster> yah I did
[16:16] <jason_> well, I gotta go re-image 60 xp machines
[16:16] <jason_> fml
[16:16] <snarkster> take a look at it
[16:16] <jason_> take it easy guys
[16:16] <jason_> happy linux-ing
[16:16] <FloodBotK1> jason_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <snarkster> later J
[16:16] <jason_> good luck with 9.04 snark
[16:16] <jason_> hope it works fo rya
[16:16] <snarkster> yah Ima need it
[16:16] <jason_> heres to hoping 10.04 will be solid
[16:16] <snarkster> could just be this ancient hardware
[16:16] <jason_> but Im sure it will be. its an LTS. Weeeee!
[16:17] <jason_> peace guys
[16:17] <paulsomebody> jason_: Is it a guarantee of bug-ensconce?
[16:18] <andrei> thanks for help but i don't have anymore time..
[16:18] <andrei> maybe tomorrow.. bye!
[16:32] <Wamphyri> any particular reason why unbuntu or kbuntu won't see my 74g raptor drive?
[16:32] <genii> Wamphyri: SCSI ?
[16:32] <Wamphyri> sata
[16:34] <Wamphyri> both see's my 250g wd drive
[16:34] <snarkster> NTFS??
[16:34] <Wamphyri> 9.04 see's the raptor drive fine, 9.10 doesn't
[16:34] <snarkster> 9.10 has some issues with certain drives.
[16:34] <snarkster> and hardware
[16:35] <snarkster> its a kernel thingy
[16:35] <petsounds> hi. is it possible to get deb package of nvidia driver 185?
[16:36] <walter> ciao a tutit
[16:36] <walter> tutti*
[16:36] <ikonia> !it | Guest26986
[16:36] <Guest26986> hi
[16:37] <Wamphyri> so otherwise i'm sol for installing 9.10? lol
[16:44] <paulsomebody> Is the package 'ubuntu-xen' best way to install Xen on Kubuntu?
[16:44] <ikonia> paulsomebody: very simple way,
[16:45] <paulsomebody> ikonia: I meant is there a 'kubuntu-xen' package or there are nothing DE-specific and it is simpl not needed?
[16:45] <ikonia> paulsomebody: xen is not DE specific
[16:46] <paulsomebody> ikonia: Thank you.
[16:47] <jonftle> Hey, is there anybody here who can help me with setting up an LVM in Kubuntu? I've created an LVM that I want to mount at boot. When I use lvdisplay, it says that it is Not Active. I can manually activate and mount it, but want it to automatically activate so that I can mount it on boot with fstab. Any ideas?
[16:48] <ikonia> jonftle: give me details about the disk that's in it ?
[16:49] <jonftle> ikonia: just a sec, I'll pastebin the output from lvdisplay
[16:49] <snarkster> later guys.. time to get back to work
[16:49] <ikonia> jonftle: if you could also tell me a little about the disk in the group, is it a raid disk, what type of raid, is it a SATA disk , SCSI disk etc etc
[16:50] <jonftle> ikonia: there are two 500GB SATA disks in the LVM, with identical ext3 partitions
[16:50] <ikonia> jonftle: ok
[16:50] <jonftle> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d73b51efa
[16:50] <ikonia> jonftle: show me the output of sudo fdisk -l on them and vgdisplay -v
[16:50] <jonftle> ikonia: that's the output from lvdisplay
[16:51] <ikonia> jonftle: I need sudo fdisk -l on each of the two disks and vgdisplay -v
[16:52] <jonftle> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d2f37cdc2 is the fdisk -l
[16:52] <jonftle> ikonia: there is a third disk, the system disk. It is IDE, and has all of my partitions, sdc I think. I just want to use the LVM between sda and sdb as a storage drive
[16:52] <ikonia> jonftle: sdb and sda don't contain a partition table
[16:52] <ikonia> jonftle: it's better to make a partition on each disk for the whole of the disk and mark those partitions as lvm partition type
[16:53] <zerocold> hi !
[16:53] <jonftle> ikonia: here is the vgdisplay -v: http://pastebin.com/d77dd7360
[16:54] <ikonia> jonftle: that looks pretty normal
[16:54] <jonftle> ikonia: ok, so can I undo what I've done and start again then? I originally created the LVM using a graphical tool called LVM. I created a logical volume that spanned both disks, and then told the tool to format them with ext3
[16:54] <jonftle> ikonia: it works, if i manually activate and mount it, but i'd like to mount it at boot
[16:54] <jonftle> ikonia: but by default, when the machine boots, the volume is listed as NOT active, so it won't mount
[16:54] <ikonia> jonftle: I don't know what that graphical tool is, and personally I don't trust that sort of thing.
[16:55] <jonftle> ikonia: I'm open to starting again, if you could point me to a tutorial or something. I've used RAID under Windows, but am new to LVM
[16:55] <ikonia> jonftle: I suspect you'll find it marks it'self as active if you create a partition on each disk and mark that partition as lvm
[16:56] <ikonia> jonftle: disks without partition tables can get skipped at boot time as they are seen as "dead" or "uninitialized"
[16:57] <shadeslayer> hey,im having a bit of a problem with grub,anyone up for some troubleshooting?
[16:57] <jonftle> ikonia: so can you point me to a resource that describes how to do it with the command line tools?
[16:57] <manjula> #ubuntu
[16:57] <ikonia> jonftle: sure, got a pen and paper? it'[s only a few commands
[16:57] <jonftle> ikonia: go ahead
[16:58] <ikonia> jonftle: ok, from scratch, first thing to do is create a partition on each disk
[16:58] <ikonia> jonftle: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[16:58] <ikonia> jonftle: then n for new partition
[16:58] <ikonia> then chose the size for all the disk
[16:58] <ikonia> jonftle: then "t" for toggle type
[16:59] <ikonia> jonftle: then "8e" for lvm
[16:59] <ikonia> jonftle: then "w" to write that data to the disk
[16:59] <ikonia> jonftle: do that for both disks
[16:59] <ikonia> jonftle: with me so far ?
[17:00] <jonftle> ikonia: sure. do i need to specify the name of the LVM anywhere? will the process of adding the disk to the lvm just create it?
[17:00] <ikonia> jonftle: not yet - we are not there yet
[17:00] <ikonia> jonftle: that's "step 1"
[17:00] <ikonia> jonftle: now for "step 2"
[17:00] <jonftle> ikonia:  ok
[17:00] <shadeslayer> anyone have a idea on how to mount a partition,specifing the file type? mount says i need to specify the file type for my / partition
[17:01] <ikonia> jonftle: we now need to make the disks available to lvm, this is simple
[17:01] <ikonia> jonftle: "sudo pvcreate /dev/sda1" and "sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb1" - notice we are using partitions, not the full disks even though the partitions are the size of the full disks
[17:01] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what file system is on it ?
[17:01] <ikonia> jonftle: with me ?
[17:02] <jonftle> ikonia: sure, that makes perfect sense
[17:02] <jonftle> ikonia: so i could create multiple LVMs that use partitions on only a few disks
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ext4.. i tried : sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt : and it says : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[17:02] <ikonia> jonftle: ok - now we need to create the volume goup - not the volume, the volume group
[17:02] <jonftle> ikonia: that's far more powerful than RAID
[17:03] <shadeslayer> i guess i shouldnt have reinstalled windows :P
[17:03] <jonftle> ikonia: is that similar to a logical volume?
[17:03] <ikonia> jonftle: it's not more powerful than raid, it's different, it's got it's own draw backs, don't get them confused
[17:03] <ikonia> jonftle: the volume group is what will contain the logical volume, ready for "step 3" ?
[17:03] <shadeslayer> ikonia: btw dolphin mounts it fine
[17:03] <jonftle> ikonia: sure, go ahead
[17:03] <ikonia> shadeslayer: odd
[17:03] <shadeslayer> uh.. wait one sec
[17:05] <shadeslayer> ugh.. its the USB stick.. didnt check the size..
[17:05] <ikonia> jonftle: "sudo vgcreate storage /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2"
[17:06] <ikonia> jonftle: that will create you a volume group called "storage", you can see it with vgdisplay /dev/storage
[17:06] <shadeslayer> ikonia: the installer says that there is about 34 GB of free storage... which is the same as my old / partition
[17:06] <ikonia> shadeslayer: so it's a missleading user error ?
[17:06] <ikonia> jonftle: the last step is to create your logical volume, read for "step 4 and final"
[17:07] <jonftle> ikonia: hang on, in the vgcreate line, you referenced sda1 and sda2 - that looks like two separate partitions on sda - should that be /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 instead?
[17:07] <ikonia> jonftle: sorry sda1 and sdb1 well spotted
[17:07] <shadeslayer> ikonia: hmm,well dolphin doesnt show my partition ( i thought it did ),but the installer shows it as free space,weird
[17:07] <ikonia> jonftle: glad you're paying attention
[17:07] <jonftle> ikonia: I'm pretty sure that I'm following your method - ive done a whole lot of reading on the topic in the last two days
[17:07] <jonftle> ikonia:  so what's next?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> i think something wrong happened when i formatted my C: in windows,it wrote to the disk that my / partition was free space
[17:08] <shadeslayer> ikonia: is it possible to mount the free space?
[17:09] <ikonia> jonftle: last step "sudo lvcreate -L $number(M or G) -n $volume_group_name storage
[17:09] <lordganesh> i have four multiple desktops.. but when i zoom out i see six desktops..and after i log in four desktops are random of these six ..help please
[17:09] <shadeslayer> ikonia: or is it just a raw block of HD space now?
[17:09] <ikonia> jonftle: that will create a volume group out of storage
[17:09] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you can't mount free space unless it's got a file system on it
[17:09] <shadeslayer> ikonia: it did... till i reinstalled windows that is
[17:09] <ikonia> jonftle: -L would be something like -L 50G (50 gig) or -L 250M (250 meg)
[17:09] <jonftle> ikonia: what do M and G do in the lvcreate line?
[17:10] <jonftle> ikonia: oh, that's the total size of the LVM?
[17:10] <ikonia> jonftle: thats the the size you want the volume
[17:10] <jonftle> ikonia: so that should be the sum of the sizes of the two partitions then?
[17:10] <ikonia> jonftle: you've got a volume group of 1TB - so you could have a logical volume of say 50G if you wanted, then another one of 200G
[17:10] <ikonia> jonftle: or you could have 1 x 1TB logical volume
[17:11] <ikonia> jonftle: it can be as big as you want - you've created a volume group of 1TB - so you can have as many logical volumes (or partitions if it helps to things that way) as you want as long as they add up to 1TB at the end
[17:11] <jonftle> ikonia: so can i put 1T as an argument? or do I need to use 999G ?
[17:12] <jonftle> ikonia: or do we measure it as 1024T ?
[17:12] <ikonia> jonftle: you've not actually got 1T in reality ( vgdisplay /dev/storage to see how much)
[17:12] <ikonia> jonftle: you'll have something like 994G
[17:12] <jonftle> ikonia: alright, I'll use that value, because I want a single drive
[17:13] <jonftle> ikonia: now, that second -n argument $volume_group_name - is that just the name of the drive? like the name that i want to reference it by?
[17:13] <ikonia> jonftle: do an vgdisplay and look at total size, use that number
[17:13] <ikonia> jonftle: correct
[17:13] <shadeslayer> ikonia: if i create a filesystem without formatting it from the installer,will it mount?
[17:13] <jonftle> ikonia: so the line then would be like sudo lvcreate -L 994G -n storage
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i think the superblock got corrupted :(
[17:14] <jonftle> ikonia: and then finally, can I add storage to the fstab file, assuming that I name the volume 'storage'?
[17:15] <lucavr> !ciao
[17:15] <shadeslayer> lucavr: !bye :P
[17:15] <lucavr> !hello
[17:15] <lucavr> !list
[17:16] <lucavr>  /msg ubottu !bot
[17:16] <jatt> I added the "Facebook" widget to my panel and now there is no way to remove it by clicking it with the right mouse button is there a another way to remove widgets?
[17:16] <ikonia> jonftle: if you put a file system on it, eg: "sudo mkefs -j /dev/storage/your_volume_name"
[17:16] <ikonia> jonftle: then you can put it in your fstab
[17:17] <shadeslayer> jatt: um theres a X in the handle
[17:17] <jonftle> ikonia: that's a lot of layers. the partition, the volume group, the logical volume, the file system. wow
[17:17] <jonftle> ikonia: well thanks for all the help, i'll try all of that and come back if i have any problems. really appreciate it
[17:17] <lordganesh> i have four multiple desktops.. but when i zoom out i see six desktops..and after i log in four desktops are random of these six ..help please
[17:17] <ikonia> jonftle: it is, but the versatility if gives you is fantastic
[17:17] <ikonia> jonftle: you're welcome, shout if you're having problems
[17:18] <shadeslayer> ikonia: well even fdisk fails to read my / partition,i guess this deserves a reinstall
[17:18] <ikonia> shadeslayer: fdisk doesn't read partitions ?
[17:18] <jatt> shadeslayer: thanks, but this is a widget stocked in the bottom panel I don't see any handle even after clicking on it.
[17:18] <ikonia> shadeslayer: it just shows the partition table
[17:18] <shadeslayer> ikonia: doesnt read my / partition with : sudo fdisk /dev/sda3
[17:18] <jatt> I tried to add/remove widgets but this "Facebook" widget is the only one that cannot be removed
[17:18] <ikonia> shadeslayer: it won't
[17:18] <ikonia> shadeslayer: it doesn't read partitions, it reads disks, sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[17:19] <shadeslayer> jatt: ah,then click on the cashew and drag and drop the facebook widget on the desktop and then delete it
[17:19] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ah ok,im trying : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962046
[17:20] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I think your getting fdisk and fsck mixed up
[17:20] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yeah youre right :)
[17:24] <lordganesh> i have four multiple desktops.. but when i zoom out i see six desktops..and after i log in four desktops are random of these six ..help please
[17:25] <shadeslayer> aw man.. i think ill have to reinstall until someone comes up with something in the next 10 mins... upgrading to 4.4 will kill me :D
[17:28] <ubuntu> hi. I want to boot a persistent "live cd" disk on key from a computer that doesn't suport booting from usb, I have a livecd and an alt-cd, but I don't know how to make them boot from the disk on key
[17:28] <fujimitsu> lcd weather station widget is displaying a sunny icon at night and moon during day  :-/
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: 2 methods : A)Get a new Mother board
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: B)somehow install grub with windows and loopback the ISO to boot it
[17:30] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: i dont think theres any other method apart from those 2,excluding burning a CD
[17:30] <ubuntu> s' not me computa, It's the school's so I can't do both (I don't dare change the HDD)
[17:31] <ubuntu> don't the live cds have grub on them?
[17:31] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: yes,but you need a / on your HDD
[17:31] <shadeslayer> (or atlease a /boot )
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, yes but it  has to be installed with the OS
[17:33] <ubuntu> so the boot menu isn't loaded by grub? I want to do the "boot from first HDD" only from the usb stick that has it's own installation of grub
[17:34] <ubuntu> ok, that came out hard to understand
[17:34] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: if your motheboard does not support a bootable USB... well you can boot from it can you :P
[17:35] <ubuntu> can I use the live or alt to chainload another system, that happens to be installed on a usb stick, the bios can do it, (it's bios password protected)
[17:35] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: i dont think you can do that too :)
[17:35] <rstob911> ubuntu: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-kubuntu-9-10-live-usb-flash-drive-from-windows/
[17:36] <shadeslayer> rstob911: hes actually asking something else
[17:36] <rstob911> ok
[17:36] <shadeslayer> ubuntu: i think VMware is best for you if you just want to try out kubuntu,or a wubi install
[17:36] <shadeslayer> brb..
[17:38] <fujimitsu> lcd weather station widget is displaying a sunny icon at night and moon during day;  is that a known bug or anyone knows how to correct that?
[17:38] <ubuntu> naa, I'm just trying to use my disk on key OS (kubuntu9.10) on a computer farm where I don't have a user, or the right privliges to install wubi, and I can't change the HDD much because the school might not like it
[17:42] <lordganesh_> i have four multiple desktops.. but when i zoom out i see six desktops..and after i log in four desktops are random of these six ..help please
[17:44] <lordganesh_> is anybody there to help
[17:45] <Tm_T> lordganesh_: zoom out?
[17:45] <fujimitsu> no. people come here to watch
[17:45] <Tm_T> fujimitsu: that's not funny
[17:46] <fujimitsu> you're right about that
[17:47] <lordganesh_> Tm_T: this option is at upper right corner . it shows all ur desktops .
[17:47]  * fujimitsu goes to launchpad to try find the package for lcd weather station widget and file a bug 
[17:48] <ubuntu> fujimitsu: no chanse that your system thinks you are on the other side of the planet?
[17:49] <fujimitsu> you know what, ubuntu , you might be right
[17:49] <ubuntu> system setings->date and time
[17:50] <fujimitsu> however, date and time is correct .. its the widget interpretng the wrong icon for current time
[17:50] <ubuntu> well, if anything, you can find where the pictures are installd and swap them
[17:51] <fujimitsu> i rather file a bug against it.. you running kubuntu 9.10 , ubuntu
[17:51] <fujimitsu> ?
[17:51] <ubuntu> yes, only now I'm runing from a 8.10 live-cd...
[17:52] <petsounds> hi, what is the command line to install ms fonts? thanks
[17:52] <fujimitsu> i see.. may you try adding that widget and confirm?
[17:53] <rstob911> fujimitsu: which widget is it
[17:53] <ubuntu> petsounds: this seems right: http://ubuntusite.com/install-microsoft-windows-font-kubuntu/
[17:53] <fujimitsu> name: lcd weather station
[17:56] <petsounds> ubuntu: sorry, but i can't find it with kpackagekit :(
[17:58] <petsounds> nvm i found it herehttp://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[18:06] <smooth> who's girl here
[18:07] <Pici> smooth: This is the Kubuntu support channel, not a dating service.
[18:10] <jonftle> ikonia: are you still available? I've run into a snag making the LVM
[18:15] <jojciowata> join #bitten
[18:15] <shadeslayer> jojciowata: why?
[18:15] <ubuntu_> lol
[18:16] <Wamphyri> ok so theres no way for me to install 9.10 on my raptor drive then?? :(
[18:18] <yaramazgeyik>  i setup Heroes of Newerth ıf i run this game i see black screen without language bar... before ubuntu i use windows and i play this game but now i install this game's linux version but ıt cant run
[18:18] <shadeslayer> Wamphyri: theyres always a way... you havent figured it out yet :P
[18:18] <Wamphyri> lol
[18:18] <Wamphyri> well the install doesn't see the raptor drive at all
[18:18] <Wamphyri> but dmesg does
[18:18] <shadeslayer> yaramazgeyik: contact the devs?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> Wamphyri: well its ubiquity then... most probably
[18:19] <shadeslayer> Wamphyri: tried the alternate CD?
[18:19] <yaramazgeyik> devs?
[18:19] <Wamphyri> 9.04 works fine lol
[18:20] <Wamphyri> uhmm i would but i'm stuck using live cd currently without a os installed on my drive
[18:20] <shadeslayer> ikonia: mind if i PM you?
[18:20] <jaime_> boa tarde a todos
[18:21] <jaime_> alguém me pode dar uma ajuda em português sobre uma ligação duma pen kanguru no kubuntu 9.10?
[18:21] <yaramazgeyik> shadeslayer: devs?
[18:22] <shadeslayer> yaramazgeyik: the game devs or on the forums...
[18:22] <fujimitsu> !br | jaime_
[18:22] <shadeslayer> (devs are the developers
[18:22] <jaime_> obrigado ubottu
[18:23] <shadeslayer> yaramazgeyik: we dont officially support the game until its from the official ubuntu repos
[18:23] <fujimitsu> there is a linux gamers forum somewhere
[18:25] <fujimitsu> the guys with the mad penguin logo
[18:29] <paulsomebody> People, I have installed Xen, could anyone tell me how to get it to work? I want to install XP as guest system.
[18:30] <shadeslayer> paulsomebody: man xen?
[18:30] <shadeslayer> never used zen... just guessing :P
[18:31] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer: 'No manual entry for xen'.
[18:31] <shadeslayer> paulsomebody: ok did you try installing : ubuntu-xen-desktop : it might contain some GUI or something
[18:32] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer: I did so, but then my box refused to boot. It said 'fatal error, no screen found'.
[18:32] <shadeslayer> :o
[18:32] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer: And I booted the old kernel.
[18:33] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer: As far as I understand Xen Hypervisor needs its own kernel.
[18:33] <conley> Is it just me, or is there no longer an obvious graphical way to shutdown and restart?
[18:33] <paulsomebody> conley: Just you.
[18:33] <shadeslayer> paulsomebody: i absolutely positively dont know anything about xen
[18:33] <shadeslayer> conley: press : ctrl+alt+Del
[18:33] <conley> My options are logout, lock, switch user, sleep hibernate
[18:34] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer: Absolutely positively thank you for attempting to help.
[18:34] <conley> shadeslayer: I can manage without, I'm just very curious why I can't find a graphical way to do this
[18:34] <shadeslayer> conley: i can logout/shutdown graphically
[18:34] <jason__> whats up guys
[18:34] <conley> shadeslayer: Are you on the newest version of karmic?
[18:34] <paulsomebody> conley: They are at place by default, it's something with your box.
[18:35] <paulsomebody> jason__: I can't find out how to use Xen.
[18:35] <conley> Also, I installed the kubuntu package after a regular ubuntu install, would that change anything?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> conley: yes,ill brb
[18:35] <ToxinPowe> conley: this options are not avaible, in "ubuntu"+ kde, only in Kubuntu, AFAIK
[18:35] <conley> paul somebody: It's a week old install, I've done very little customization
[18:35] <jason__> paulsomebody - no idea man. I wasnt the guy who recommended xen. I have no idea what it even is. :P
[18:35] <conley> ToxinPowe: Ah, really...
[18:36] <ToxinPowe> conley: system settings, advances, session manager
[18:36] <paulsomebody> jason__: Can you remember who was this guy? I am curious.
[18:36] <ToxinPowe> take a lookç
[18:36] <paulsomebody> jason__: Just joking.
[18:38] <conley> ToxinPowe: "offer shutdown options" is already checked
[18:39] <ToxinPowe> Default leave option: Turn off computer
[18:39] <ToxinPowe> is a solution
[18:39] <conley> :\ Tried that too
[18:39] <ToxinPowe> ok
[18:39] <conley> Oh well, it's not a big deal...I was just more curious if It was some sort of KDE decision or kubuntu, or what.
[18:40] <conley> I was beginning to think that shutting down your computer was too old school for KDE.
[18:40] <fujimitsu> my default settings on 9.10 have shutdown and restart on the 'leave' tab of kickoff
[18:40] <ToxinPowe> conley: =)
[18:40] <conley> ok, got to run, thanks people
[18:41] <fujimitsu> he's bugged
[18:41] <ToxinPowe> fujimitsu: he has ubuntu+kde, not KUBUNTU
[18:45] <afzm> hi
[18:46] <afzm> ho
[18:46] <afzm> hi
[18:50] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer_: any other solutions?
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> for your HDD?
[18:50] <Wamphyri> yeah
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: what was the name again?
[18:50] <Wamphyri> 74g raptor
[18:50] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: and did you try the alternate CD?
[18:51] <Wamphyri> sata drive on /dev/sdb
[18:51] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer_: ok need help on how to burn a copy of it when you have the live cd online avalable
[18:51] <Wamphyri> online/only*
[18:51] <PCdoc> m not able to play yoville game on facebook using latest firefox and adobe flash player 10
[18:52] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: um you mean you have the ISO of the live CD right?
[18:52] <Wamphyri> i have the iso on cd which i booted from
[18:52] <Wamphyri> i also have the iso of the alternate cd
[18:52] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: ah,do you have 2 CD drives then?
[18:52] <Wamphyri> nope
[18:53] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer_: Ha-ha I have just spent my time with Xen. It requires additional video card for hardware-accelerated DX.
[18:53] <shadeslayer_> paulsomebody: ><
[18:53] <paulsomebody> shadeslayer_: Laconic.
[18:53] <shadeslayer_> eh
[18:54] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer_: don't mean to make this difficult lol sorry
[18:55] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: oh sorry didnt see your reply... im having a look at the mail :P
[18:55] <Wamphyri> lol
[18:55] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer_: no worries :p
[18:56] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: hmm.. can the PC boot off a USB?
[18:56] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer_: so the installer for ubuntu 9.10 doesn't have any command line options?
[18:56] <Wamphyri> yeah i should be able to
[18:56] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: im searching for that.. its only available in alternate till now
[18:56] <Wamphyri> my phone has a 8g usb drive
[18:57] <Wamphyri> .
[18:58] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: ok what you can do is boot off a usb drive by creating one using the live CD and write the alternate CD using k3b or using dd
[18:59] <shadeslayer_> Wamphyri: thats the best i can think off..
[19:04] <val__> is there someone ?
[19:05] <mostafa_> how can I open Pmagic.iso with usb-creator and then write it into the USB Disk?
[19:06] <Taravel> when I run kubuntu in live session I can start the wireless card intalling proprietary drivers. I installed kubuntu with wubi and now I can't see that driver in the Hardware Drivers ( I can't see also nvidia drivers )
[19:06] <val__> Use unetbootin
[19:06] <val__> mostafa_ use unetbootin
[19:06] <val__> and load the image
[19:08] <mostafa_> val__: when I use that I got another problem
[19:08] <val__> which one ?
[19:09] <mostafa_> val__: when I write it with unetbootin
[19:09] <Taravel> 4965AGN
[19:09] <mostafa_> val__: It write the iso completely but when reboot it shows me a white screen
[19:10] <mostafa_> val__: that just needs pressing Enter
[19:10] <val__> and what happens after you press enter ?
[19:10] <mostafa_> val__: and then it shows me to type the password that I never made that
[19:11] <val__> have you test to write "toor" in the password ?
[19:11] <val__> or "root"
[19:11] <val__> ?
[19:12] <mostafa_> val__: no
[19:12] <val__> if you've got no password then your iso is either collapsed or you requier a password
[19:12] <val__> find it out on the website you downloaded it
[19:12] <val__> sorry im gonna eat now
[19:12] <mostafa_> val__: my ISO is not collapsed
[19:12] <mostafa_> cos when I write it in windows it is ok
[19:13] <ikonia> shadeslayer_: I'm back if you want me ?
[19:13] <shadeslayer_> ikonia: yeah
[19:13] <ikonia> shadeslayer_: how can I help ?
[19:13] <val__> ok then google "pmagic password"
[19:13] <val__> see you
[19:14] <shadeslayer_> ikonia: i just PM'd you :)
[19:14] <shadeslayer_> its kinda OT here and OT in kubuntu OT too :)
[19:23] <Guest69520> ikonia: Just wanted to let you know that everything worked perfectly. Thanks for the help!
[19:23] <ikonia> Guest69520: are you jonftle ?
[19:24] <Guest69520> ikonia: I am, sorry, I had to restart to test
[19:24] <jonftle> ikonia: perhaps you can help me with one other thing - I've added the LVM to fstab, and it mounts to a folder in my home directory on boot. But it seems as though my user account does not have write permissions - is there a way to change that?
[19:24] <ikonia> jonftle: ahh perfect, sorry I missed you earlier, glad it's working
[19:25] <ikonia> jonftle: sure, can you pastebin me the output of "ls -la $your_mount_point" please
[19:26] <jonftle> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d446e3047
[19:26] <jonftle> ikonia: looks like it only has rwx for root. can i chown it?
[19:27] <ikonia> jonftle: ahhh it's owned by root, easy to change. "sudo chown -R jon:jon /$your_mount_point"
[19:27] <jonftle> ikonia: sure, but will that be persistent when I reboot?
[19:27] <ikonia> it sure will
[19:27] <ikonia> jonftle: make sure your disk is mounted when you do that though
[19:27] <ikonia> you want to change the permissions on the disk - not the mount point
[19:28] <jonftle> ikonia: ok I ran sudo chown -R jon:jon /home/jon/Storage when the disk was mounted. that should work, no?
[19:28] <ikonia> jonftle: perfect
[19:28] <jonftle> ikonia: great, i now have rw access to the disk from my user account. Thanks again!
[19:28] <ikonia> jonftle: welcome
[19:35] <genii> Anyone have a thought on if it's best from Konsole to use kdesudo when starting something like gparted, or use gksu/gksudo instead, or does it even matter?
[19:37] <shadeslayer_> genii: i usually use konsole... but sometimes kdesudo app in krunner works fine too
[19:38] <shadeslayer_> i would prefer a konsole
[19:39] <genii> shadeslayer_: The basic idea I want to get is... when starting a GTK app which requires admin rights... if I start it from in KDE's Konsole, should I use kdesudo? Or being a GTK app, even though in kde, should I use gksudo or such...
[19:41] <genii> nvm, -devel spit back an answer :)
[19:41] <shadeslayer_> genii: well since youre opening a gtk app in kde it uses kde's styling and some settings,the gui follows the qtcurve style,thus gtk apps should imo opened with kdesudo,in kde and gksu in gnome
[19:41]  * genii slides Tm_T a coffee and a cookie
[19:41] <shadeslayer_> hehe..
[19:41] <shadeslayer_> genii: is it same answer?
[19:41] <shadeslayer_> or is there something new?
[19:49] <Wamphyri> there
[19:50] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer_: figured a way :p
[19:57] <psycoshot> hey. can anyone help me figure out if my CPU is 32 or 64 bit?
[19:57] <psycoshot> its this: http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Sony-VAIO-PCV-RS510
[19:57] <psycoshot> the CPU is a P4 2.80C
[20:09] <shadeslayer> Wamphyri: cool whatcha do?
[20:10] <Wamphyri> loaded the iso to my phone and moved it to my moms lapwarmer and burnt it there
[20:10] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:10] <chull> hi shadeslayer
[20:10] <Wamphyri> now i'm dealing with my psycho X
[20:10] <shadeslayer> chull: um hi?
[20:11] <shadeslayer> Wamphyri: ah X..
[20:11] <chull> how can i set up ftp from kubuntu 9.10?
[20:11] <shadeslayer> !ftp | chull
[20:11] <Wamphyri> unfortunitly she uses our kids as pawns
[20:11] <chull> Wamphyri, are you in the usa?
[20:11] <Wamphyri> canada
[20:12] <chull> Wamphyri, i've known of some father's rights groups up there.. can you google for father's rights your area?
 !ot
[20:12] <Wamphyri> chull: no worries... i just let her do her tangients and record em
[20:13] <Wamphyri> shadeslayer:  that list of ftp apps is missing ncftp :D
[20:13] <Wamphyri> lol
[20:13] <chull> can i find hidden files with command line kubuntu, like gFTP? i don't know the path
[20:14] <Wamphyri> ls -lsa
[20:14] <shadeslayer> chull: ls -la
[20:14] <chull> ah ok
[20:14] <Wamphyri> or what shadeslayer said :p
[20:14] <chull> hehehe
[20:24] <chull> Tesssa, ?
[20:25] <chull> shadeslayer, Wamphyri .. the files (pictures) are many steps down in paths i don't know .. how can i search for that?
[20:26] <Wamphyri> do you know what specifically your looking for?
[20:26] <shadeslayer> chull: use -r
[20:26] <Wamphyri> lol
[20:26] <shadeslayer> chull: so its like : ls -lar | grep filename
[20:26] <chull> a file name would be 100_4762
[20:26] <shadeslayer> chull: so just interchange the filename with whatever you want
[20:27] <Wamphyri> ls -lar | grep 100_4762
[20:28] <chull> "no such file or directory"
[20:29] <chull> actually it didn't even give me that.. just returned the prompt
[20:32] <shadeslayer> chull: no file found then :P
[20:32] <Wamphyri> try find / -name filename
[20:32] <chull> ok Wamphyri
[20:32] <shadeslayer> chull: if you have the time do : ls -lar / | grep filename
[20:33] <chull> shadeslayer, it returned the prompt with the /
[20:33] <shadeslayer> chull: eh,thats weird
[20:34] <slow-motion> hi
[20:34] <shadeslayer> anyways ive gtg
[20:35] <chull> i guess it's trying to find it with find.. going through lots of 'Permission denied'
[20:46] <snarkster> what do i use to make my computer talk from the command line?
[20:52] <genii> snarkster: festvox installed, then look at http://festvox.org/docs/manual-1.4.3/festival_7.html
[20:53] <Wamphyri> why would linux report my connection at 20% and windows reports 95%
[20:53] <Wamphyri> wifi connections*
[20:59] <paulsomebody> Wamphyri: Different algorithms?
[21:00] <snarkster> thanx genii
[21:00] <dodger> Wamphyri: wifi signal strength is a bit like black magic - you've got a signal strength in db, but there's no standard for displaying it
[21:01] <paulsomebody> snarkster: You are always welcome.
[21:01] <dodger> Wamphyri: since there's not physically a 100% strong signal
[21:01] <snarkster> genii can you festvox to make kde speak instead of making noises?
[21:03] <snarkster> paulsomebody howd that zen work for you?
[21:03] <snarkster> um xen I mean
[21:04] <paulsomebody> snarkster: No way. It needs a separate video card for every OS for full hardware acceleration.
[21:04] <genii> snarkster: Sorry, not sure. I only used it before on a dedicated box with no desktop
[21:04] <Wamphyri> dodger: i see the difference in my download speed as well
[21:04] <genii> (for voicemail stuff)
[21:05] <snarkster> oh
[21:05] <Wamphyri> paulsomebody: only thing i could think of is how the device is loaded
[21:05] <paulsomebody> snarkster: I decided that double boot is the least unpleasant thing about this all.
[21:05] <snarkster> thats what I did
[21:05] <snarkster> vista & kubuntu
[21:06] <paulsomebody> snarkster: I have all my partition covered with ext3. How could I separate a piece of it for XP or 7?
[21:07] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Is gpatred included in Kubuntu 9.04 live CD?
[21:07] <snarkster> get the kde partition manager
[21:07] <snarkster> its similar to gparted
[21:07] <paulsomebody> snarkster: What is it? I mean, package name?
[21:07] <snarkster> partitionmanager
[21:08] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Too obvious to guess myself.
[21:08] <paulsomebody> Okay, I'll give it a try.
[21:08] <snarkster> see what you find
[21:08] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> hello,   guys   paulsomebody  try
[21:09] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: What?
[21:09] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> paulsomebody    you said you will try    and I agree
[21:10] <Guinness_> Hi all.  I'm intending to install kubuntu in a 20gig partition (excluding /home).  Is 20gig sufficient 'slack' in general?
   let do it
[21:10] <dodger> Wamphyri: in a terminal, type 'iwconfig' and then return; somewhere in there it should tell you the bit rate in Mb/s, what's it saying?
[21:11] <genii> !ru | Moscow_Sindyshoo
[21:11] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> ifconfig
[21:12] <genii> Guinness_: 20 gigs should be plenty
[21:12] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Ты говоришь хоть на каком-нибудь языке?
[21:12] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> no
[21:12] <Guinness_> genii: I'll give it a go =)  Thanks
[21:13] <genii> Guinness_: np
  у меня не заходит на русскоязычный
[21:13] <dodger> Guinness_: my system is 2 years old, has loads of different software and like 10 different kernels installed, and is 7.4G in size
[21:13] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> #ubuntu-ru Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[21:13] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> Шо мне делать
[21:14] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Зарегистрироваться и войти туда.
[21:14] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> как региться
[21:15] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Прочти справку в окошке сервера freenode, команда '/help register'.
[21:15] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> freenode
[21:15] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> вот хрень
[21:15] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: И русскоязычный аналог это #kubuntu-ru, а не #ubuntu-ru.
[21:15] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> ладно   тут тоже не плохо
[21:16] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Кроме того, что тебя выгонят, если будешь продолжать говорить на русском - да.
[21:16] <Guinness_> dodger: my current installation is over a year old, so it's an upgrade too.  I'll give it a go, putting /home on another partition should give me plenty of room for multimedia, so it should be okay.  Just hope grub2 finds my other kernels / os.
[21:17] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> ok
[21:18] <snarkster> Guinness_: I use a 15 gig partition for my root, the rest for home and I have alot of crap. you room dude
[21:18] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> paulsomebody    ну скажи что сделать  чтобы по-бустрому там зарегистрироваться
[21:18] <genii> paulsomebody: Are you getting anywhere with helping them to figure out registering on Freenode yet?
[21:18] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> on ubuntu-ru
[21:19] <snarkster> you know I find it awesome how Im able to see these russian characters just fine, while I bet in windows Id get boxes
[21:19] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> people    what I should to do to register in ubuntu-ru
[21:20] <Guinness_> thanks guys, I'll give it a go.  Take care =)
[21:20] <genii> Moscow_Sindyshoo: You just register your current irc name to freenode, then you can travel to #ubuntu-ru without problem after
[21:21] <genii> !register | Moscow_Sindyshoo
[21:21]  * genii wishes there was a Russian version of !register
[21:25] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Тебе же почти все объяснили. Напечатай /nick [желаемый ник].
[21:26] <snarkster> see genii all you had to do was ask. LOL
[21:26] <snarkster> You go paulsomebody.
[21:27] <paulsomebody> snarkster: What?
[21:27] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> aaaaaaaa
[21:27] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> Am I madless?
[21:27] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> ))
[21:28] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> Moscow_sindyshoo #Ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks
[21:29] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Набери тут, потом зайди на канал там, что еще непонятно?
[21:30] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> Что набрать?
[21:30] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> я не регистрировался и на этом и на фриноде и всё само заходило
[21:31] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> а на русский не заходит
[21:31] <snarkster> was cheering you on paulsomebody
[21:31] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Вау. '/register Moscow_Sindyshoo', вот это.
[21:31] <paulsomebody> snarkster: He is a tough one.
[21:31] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> [00:31] <-> nickserv> register xxx kpetrk@mail.ru
[21:31] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> [00:31] [Notice] -NickServ- You are already logged in as Moscow_Sindyshoo.
[21:32] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> [00:31] [Notice] -NickServ- You are already logged in as
[21:32] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> [00:31] <-> nickserv> register xxx dgdsfgdsg@mail.ru
[21:33] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> [00:33] [Error] register: Unknown command.
[21:33] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Хм.
[21:33] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> Xm
[21:33] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: Тогда войди туда, раз уже зарегистрирован.
[21:34] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> куда?
[21:34] <snarkster> maybe you should take this private?
[21:34] <Moscow_Sindyshoo>  #ubuntu-ru  сюда хочу
[21:34] <Moscow_Sindyshoo> тут все на русском
[21:34] <paulsomebody> Moscow_Sindyshoo: На русский канал. И вообще, пиши ко мне в приват, а не в общий канал.
[21:41] <snarkster> im guessing not getting any help in in the RU channel??
[21:41] <snarkster> espeak give me errors and wont make a peep
[21:42] <paulsomebody> snarkster: I did it!
[21:43] <snarkster> yah
[21:48] <snarkster> how do you switch back and forth so fast on your keyboard?
[21:49] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Are you asking me? I use kkb switch and it's hotkeys. Shift + Space for English, Ctrl + Space for Russian.
[21:50] <snarkster> nice
[21:51] <Moscow_Sindyshoo>  /msg nickserv register xxx kpetrk7@mail.ru
[21:52] <paulsomebody> It would be good if I manage to install kxneur.
[21:52] <snarkster> kxneur??
[21:53] <paulsomebody> Yes, it's obsolete, but works, unlike gxneur.
[21:56] <paulsomebody> snarkster: Never run across it?
[21:57] <snarkster> nah I only speak american
[21:57] <snarkster> its cool to listne to russian tho
[21:57] <snarkster> kinda sounds like your speaking backwards
[21:59] <Moscowx> hello
[21:59] <Moscowx> ))) I am registred
[21:59] <snarkster> awesomeness
[21:59] <snarkster> i got my server back up
[22:00] <Moscowx> give me russian ubuntu chennel link!!!!!!!!!1
[22:00] <Moscowx> paulsomebody   give me link on russian channel
[22:01] <Moscowx> I register new name!
[22:01] <Moscowx> paulsomebody   I wait!!  fast fast please
[22:01] <Moscowx> I am waiting
[22:02] <Moscowx> #ubuntu_ru
[22:02] <Moscowx> #ru_ubuntu
[22:02] <snarkster> #ubuntu-ru
[22:03] <Moscowx> hello
[22:03] <Moscowx> hello
[22:03] <Moscowx> hello
[22:03] <FloodBotK1> Moscowx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <snarkster> dude do /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:04] <Moscowx> thenks ))))))
[22:04] <snarkster> yup
[22:05] <paulsomebody_> Moscowx: Great, we are all happy.
[22:05] <ilumi> does quassel can show chennel list?
[22:05] <kriss3d> ilumi:  it can yes
[22:06] <ilumi> kriss3d: how?
[22:06] <kriss3d> in the left side.. click the servername.. in this case its called -Kubuntu IRC
[22:07] <ilumi> kriss3d: ok, i see, thank you
[22:07] <kittu> hey guys.. i have a great news to linux community... i got my "M$ Windows TAX" money back from dell after fighting for few days.. i am going to donate that money to kubuntu or KDE :)
[22:07] <ToxinPowe> nice
[22:08] <snarkster> nice
[22:08] <paulsomebody_> kittu: How much was that? $5?
[22:08] <kittu> its 25 bucks for vista :)
[22:09] <paulsomebody_> kittu: Not as bad as I though, retail prices are low sometimes.
[22:11] <ornok> HOLA
[22:12] <snarkster> \0
[22:13] <paulsomebody_> People, is there a way to install local packages except GDebi?
[22:22] <ToxinPowe> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[22:22] <paulsomebody_> Thanks, but I have already solved the problem.
[22:22] <cdc> hi
[22:23] <paulsomebody_> cdc: Yes?
[22:23] <cdc> any lady to talk to??
[22:24] <PythonPup> Howdy.  I understand there is a way to go to the classic menus in kubuntu.  I am using 9.10 and I looked in the faq and I have not found the option.  Any suggestions on where to look?
[22:24] <tobiasz> I there fellas
[22:24] <paulsomebody_> cdc: This is Kubuntu support channel, not lady talk or something else/
[22:24] <paulsomebody_> PythonPup: Classic menu?
[22:24] <cdc> ah ok
[22:24] <tobiasz> I just installed kubuntu-desktop and fonts are sooooo huuuugee it looks ridiculous
[22:24] <tobiasz> only in kde I mean
[22:24] <cdc> how do i join a normal channel??
[22:24] <ToxinPowe> PythonPup: right click on menu, clasic style
[22:25] <paulsomebody_> tobiasz: Configure them via settings.
[22:25] <paulsomebody_> !offtopic
[22:25] <paulsomebody_> cdc: Okay?
[22:25] <cdc> ok
[22:25] <tobiasz> paulsomebody_ I see kde for the first time but gonna try
[22:26] <kriss3d> cdc:  whats a normal channel compared to this ?
[22:26] <tobiasz> what version of kde does kubuntu-desktop install in 9.10?
[22:27] <PythonPup> ToxinPowe, Thank you
[22:27] <paulsomebody_>  tobiasz: Don't spoil your impression. 'System Settings > Appearance > Fonts'. I'll recommend installing 'ttf-droid' fonts package and setting DPI if none okay.
[22:27] <ToxinPowe> tobiasz: alt+f2, type Fonts and enter
[22:27] <paulsomebody_> tobiasz: 4.3.3 or something like that.
[22:27] <ToxinPowe> paulsomebody_: I really like this font too =)
[22:27] <tobiasz> paulsomebody_ thx :)
[22:27] <tobiasz> ToxinPowe thx
[22:28] <PythonPup> tobiasz, 4.3.2.  I just checked.
[22:28] <tobiasz> PythonPup pretty cool :)
[22:29] <PythonPup> I just installed kubuntu because I wanted to try kde 4.3.  I normally am a gnome user.  But, I want to give kde a chance.
[22:30] <ToxinPowe> PythonPup: I'm in the same situation and 4.3 and 4.4 beta, are really nice, good luck =)
[22:31] <thepro> Hello party people
[22:31] <thepro> I have some problems with installing flash player
[22:31] <thepro> Could any one help me?
[22:32] <paulsomebody_> thepro: Okay.
[22:32] <thepro> paulsomebody: I am trying to install flash player, but I can't get it to work
[22:32] <thepro> paulthesomebody: I have googled for some time, but nothing seems to work
[22:33] <thepro> paulthesomebody: how did you install it?
[22:34] <ToxinPowe> install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:35] <ToxinPowe> it has flash and more
[22:35] <thepro> I did try that, but
[22:35] <thepro> I get stuck at the configuration
[22:35] <paulsomebody_> thepro: Press 'Alt + F2', type 'Konsole', and inside it type 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'.
[22:35] <ilumi> !audio
[22:37] <thepro> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:37] <thepro> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:37] <thepro> That is what I get when I type that
[22:37] <ToxinPowe> close your packet manager
[22:38] <ilumi> does anyone know how to boot audio level, on max it's about 40% lower than in windows
[22:38] <ilumi> boost
[22:38] <thepro> I have no packet manager up
[22:39] <thepro> All I have is this chat and my messenger client
[22:39] <thepro> And the konsole
[22:40] <thepro> I might as well try to relog before I do it
[22:40] <thepro> brb
[22:40] <paulsomebody_> ilumi: Configure Kmix.
[22:41] <paulsomebody_> thepro: Close other package managers and try again.
[22:41] <ilumi> paulsomebody_: i have it maxed out in kmix, it must be limited somewhere before kmix
[22:41] <paulsomebody_> ilumi: No, just make more channels be shown.
[22:43] <_zap_> is there a (k)ubuntu installlation cd/dvd/... that supports loop-aes out of the box?
[22:43] <ilumi> paulsomebody_: which channels? i already have pcm, front and master
[22:43] <paulsomebody_> ilumi: Configure them via the menu/
[22:43] <thepro> Now my konsole tells me  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:44] <ToxinPowe> type it then =)
[22:44] <thepro> Ohh true
[22:44] <thepro> lol, didn't see that
[22:45] <artyom> \list
[22:45] <ilumi> paulsomebody_: what do you mean?
[22:45] <artyom> sorry
[22:46] <paulsomebody_> ilumi: Settings > Configure Channels, etc.
[22:46] <thepro> When I did that I got E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[22:46] <ilumi> paulsomebody_: i already have all the channels that i need. they are just not loud enough
[22:46] <thepro> I tried typing the f install but it just gives me blank one
[22:47] <paulsomebody_> ilumi: Then I don't know what is wrong,
[22:47] <thepro> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:47] <thepro>   sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-15-1) but it is not going to be installed or
[22:47] <thepro>                           ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-15-1) but it is not going to be installed
[22:47] <thepro>                  Recommends: gsfonts-x11 but it is not going to be installed
[22:47] <thepro> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[22:47] <FloodBotK1> thepro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <chris_____> is kubuntu generally reliable?  Trying it out here, getting strange bugs - can't even run knetworkmanager
[22:48] <chris_____> having a hard time getting my laptop connected to wireless, too
[22:48] <thepro> Have you tried connecting it (non wireless) and installing the drivers?
[22:49] <thepro> That worked for me when I used Mint atleast (gnome)
[22:49] <ToxinPowe> thepro: apt-get -f install, do nothing?
[22:49] <chris_____> hmm, plain vanilla ubuntu connects easily, that's what I'm concerned about.
[22:50] <thepro> ToxinPowe: Well I tried typing it and I just got a new command line with no direction (if you understand)
[22:51] <ToxinPowe> Are you using apt or aptitude?
[22:51] <thepro> apt
[22:51] <zewm> hello, is there a kubuntu testing i can change the apt sources to? kubuntu has all old programs and this kde and konqueror are buggy as
[22:52] <ToxinPowe> try with aptitude and take a look to the options for fix
[22:53] <thepro> Where in aptitude should I be looking?
[22:53] <thepro> A lot to choose
[22:54] <ToxinPowe> no no, aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:54] <thepro> Ohh
[22:54] <ToxinPowe> you have a previous problem with your dependencies
[22:54] <baptistul> i cant install kubuntu 9.10
[22:55] <baptistul> it stop at 80%
[22:55] <thepro> It's installing atm (yay) let's hope it works
[22:56] <baptistul> no.no work anymore
[22:56] <thepro> Now I get to the package config, the grey "box" with all the text
[22:56] <thepro> How do I get past it? Enter doesn't do anything
[22:57] <ToxinPowe> Do you mean licence? scroll down and enter?
[22:57] <baptistul> well,itt' s telling me that's a fatal eror
[22:58] <thepro> I scrolled and and  pressed enter
[22:58] <thepro> Nothing happens
[22:58] <baptistul> something as "grub-apt"...?
[22:58] <ToxinPowe> Can you send me a snapshot?
[22:58] <thepro> Sure
[22:58] <thepro> Sec
[22:59] <thepro> How do I send it via the chat?
[23:00] <ToxinPowe> what is your IRC client?
[23:00] <thepro> Quassel
[23:01] <Fanfare> !imagepaste
[23:01] <Fanfare> !pastebin
[23:03] <novarg> Hi everyone. Help newbie please. I have installed and setted up kubuntu 9.10. Then i setted proxy from system settings - network settings. And now, when i no need proxy anymoreб i setted option to "connect directly to internet" but my kpackagekit still ignore it and still try to connet via proxy that not exist anymore. Maybe i can remove proxy somewhere in conf files?
[23:05] <Fanfare> novarg: does sudo apt-get update also use proxy-settings?
[23:06] <novarg> no it updating normally
[23:06] <novarg> it is even in kpackagekit updating sources, but can't install any package (download actually)
[23:09] <harolddong> I'm running kubuntu and my system just started hanging right after the networking icon in ksplash so I basically can't log into kde.  how do I disable the splash screen to see what is happening during login?   also what log files should I check out?
[23:09] <yofel> novarg: bug 498356 maybe?
[23:09] <ilumi> how can i make tasks on the task bar only show tasks from the selected desktop?
[23:09] <yofel> novarg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpackagekit/+bug/498356
[23:10] <novarg> let me check, thanks
[23:10] <yofel> ilumi: there is an option for that in the task manager settings
[23:12] <novarg> yofel: seems like that :(
[23:18] <Planetary> Hey everybody, I need help getting my wireless to connect. I know there is a bug. I have K 9.04 AMD64 that is upgraded to 9.10. I cant connect to encryped networks. How can I resolve this? would installing gnome desktop work?
[23:19] <novarg> yofel: that info helped to restore kpackagekit. Thanks a lot ;)
[23:22] <yofel> yw
[23:28] <harolddong> can someone tell me how to disable ksplash?
[23:35] <Pat_Benson> harolddong > I think you'll find the answer here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3108764.0
[23:38] <harolddong> thank you
[23:39] <paulsomebody_> Is there anybody using Ksplice?
[23:41] <mime> hello all. i just tied a new recipe in fvwm-crystall but cant find the diamond menu, any idea please? thnx
[23:44] <K350> my system becamed very slow suddenly. How do I check what takes up so much cpu or what makes it slow?
[23:45] <crimsun> htop, iostat, etc.
[23:51] <mauri> help about fdisk.... partitio manager is not able to create ext3 and ntfs partitions on the same usb pendrive
[23:55] <Planetary> I see networks but cant connect to encrypted routers. 9.10 amd64 BCM4311
[23:55] <mauri> help about fdisk.... partitio manager is not able to create ext3 and ntfs partitions on the same usb pendrive
[23:59] <Moscowx> heppy new year
[23:59] <mauri>  partitio manager is not able to create ext3 and ntfs partitions on the same usb pendrive