[05:37] <slacker_nl> morning all
[05:39] <micahg> hi sl
[05:39] <micahg> oops
[05:39] <micahg> hi slacker_nl
[05:41] <slacker_nl> hello micahg
[05:41] <slacker_nl> micahg: where are you from .be or .de?
[05:41] <slacker_nl> uhh
[05:41] <micahg> .us :)
[05:41] <slacker_nl> ahh
[05:42] <slacker_nl> your last name sounds dutch
[13:22] <Yos> nigel_nb, ping
[13:23] <nigel_nb> yes Yos
[13:23] <Yos> Someone with low-graphics problem, what logs should they include in their bug report?
[13:25] <nigel_nb> just ask for "apport-collect BUGNUMBER"
[13:25] <nigel_nb> Yos: against what package is the bug reported against?
[13:26] <Yos> They have it in linux ubuntu
[13:27] <nigel_nb> bug number?
[13:27] <Yos> Intersesting, how does "apport-collect BUGNUMBER" work?
[13:27] <Yos> one sec
[13:28] <Yos> 501599
[13:28] <nigel_nb> bug 501599
[13:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 501599 in linux "Ubuntu 9.10: "Ubuntu in running in low-graphics mode" (EEE PC 1101HA)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501599
[13:28] <Yos> Yep, that's it
[13:29] <Yos> I marked it as incomplete until more info is provided to confirm it
[13:30] <nigel_nb> Yos: first, you need to change the package to xorg
[13:30] <Yos> Ok
[13:32] <Yos> Done
[13:33] <nigel_nb> now, ask user to run "apport-collect 501599" in terminal so that the required information can be attached
[13:34] <Yos> Will it be attached automatically to the bug ?
[13:35] <nigel_nb> yep
[13:35] <nigel_nb> Xorg has an apport hook, it will collect all the logs and information attached
[13:35] <nigel_nb> automatically :)
[13:35] <Yos> Cool
[13:38] <Yos> Nice trick :D
[13:41] <nigel_nb> hehe
[13:44] <Yos> I hope it doesn't make a difference that I used x instead of X in the package name
[13:48] <nigel_nb> Yos: Nope
[13:48] <nigel_nb> it doesn't
[15:17] <^arky^> hi
[15:17] <cjohnston> hi ^arky^
[16:06] <slacker_nl> is there a section to report bugs on ubuntu's wiki?
[16:06] <slacker_nl> s/in/for/
[16:08] <micahg> slacker_nl: the ML
[16:08] <slacker_nl> ML?
[16:08] <micahg> slacker_nl: mailing list
[16:08] <slacker_nl> ahh
[16:24] <\vish> slacker_nl: you could just correct the wiki , right?
[16:32] <micahg> \vish: depends if it's a controversial thing
[16:33] <\vish> hmm... we certainly wouldnt want to do that  :)
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[16:57] <cjohnston> hggdh: agreed
[17:00] <hggdh> :-)
[17:02] <cjohnston> how goes hggdh?
[17:02] <hggdh> life goes on, with little regard to us ;-)
[17:03] <hggdh> which is to say -- life is good (beats being dead)
[17:06] <cjohnston> true
[17:16] <matti> ;]
[17:18] <cjohnston> hey matti
[17:19] <matti> Hi cjohnston ;]
[18:34] <yofel> bug 462895 Low/Triaged
[18:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 462895 in python-qt4 "python-qt4-doc examples do not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/462895
[18:38] <yofel> and bug 381409 would be whishlist I think
[18:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381409 in python-qt4 "python-qt4 depends on phonon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381409
[18:48] <micahg> yofel: wishlist done
[18:49] <micahg> yofel: Low/Triaged done
[18:49] <yofel> thx :)
[22:12] <jibel> hi, anyone with knowledge of install-info could take a look at bug 295542 ?
[22:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 295542 in texinfo "Texlive2008 install-info conflicts with system's version of install-info" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/295542
[22:13] <jibel> shouldn't have this been fixed with the transition to gnu's i-i in 9.10 ?
[22:32] <hggdh> jibel: I do not understand -- the reporter is using an unpackaged install-info
[22:34] <hggdh> so there could be problems, as far as I can understand
[22:40] <jibel> hggdh, sure this is an unpackaged version, and I was about to simply close it.
[22:40] <jibel> hggdh, but I've seen this many times when processing install failure reports.
[22:42] <jibel> Is there a place in the wiki to document this kind of issue ?
[22:42] <hggdh> for install-info, I do not know of any
[22:43] <hggdh> but if this has been happening, it might be a good idea to add an entry somewhere
[22:44] <jibel> I've created the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApportPackage with general install issues.
[22:45] <jibel> Do you think it's worth adding another one with known installation issues but for specific packages ?
[22:47] <hggdh> jibel: wouldn't it be better to rename the page to something else (like DebuggingUpdatesIssues)?
[22:48] <hggdh> otherwise THANK YOU! ;-)
[22:48] <hggdh> reason is the pages does not really deal with apport, but with install/update of packages
[22:49] <BUGabundo> hey guys
[22:49] <hggdh> hey BUGabundo
[22:51] <jibel> hggdh, will rename, and merge the 'How to triage' section of DebuggingUpdateManager, I'll see with bdmurray when he's back.
[22:52] <jibel> Finally I will create another page with known installation issues, otherwise there will be to much content.
[22:53] <jibel> s/to/too/
[22:53] <hggdh> jibel: thank you
[22:54] <jibel> hggdh, thank you too