| cwillu_at_work | penguin42, that's how the current sync works fr them | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| penguin42 | ah ok | 00:00 |
| cwillu_at_work | BUGabundo, mkdir /dev/net first | 00:00 |
| BUGabundo | worked | 00:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | and n2n works? | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | n2n is working too | 00:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | lsmod|grep tun show anything? | 00:02 |
| BUGabundo | tun 13316 0 | 00:04 |
| cwillu_at_work | and you rmmod'd it before right? | 00:04 |
| * cwillu_at_work thinks | 00:04 | |
| BUGabundo | yp | 00:04 |
| cwillu_at_work | that doesn't show up on mine after that sequence, although the device exists | 00:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | unless it just gets modprobe'd on demand at that point | 00:05 |
| BUGabundo | (12:05:56 AM) asac: you can add tun to /etc/modules to ensure its loaded | 00:07 |
| cwillu_at_work | shouldn't be necessary though | 00:09 |
| penguin42 | (anyone using kvm?) | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu_at_work: so what now? | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | hammer it ? | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | alias it to modprob everytime? | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 00:21 |
| cwillu_at_work | BUGabundo, well, that's what putting tun in /etc/modules would do | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | but I need a true solution | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | I'm trying to push this for android | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | would be cool to have n2n Linux (ubuntu) to my Android :) | 00:25 |
| cwillu_at_work | that may well end up being the true solution | 00:25 |
| * cwillu_at_work notes the existence of lp in /etc/modules | 00:25 | |
| cwillu_at_work | udev is on that bug report, yes? | 00:25 |
| penguin42 | cwillu_at_work: Odd that, again you would have thought in the old conf.modules days you could just add an alias to load lp when the /dev/lp was accessed | 00:26 |
| penguin42 | oh, but with /dev stuff is only created when it's loaded - yeuch | 00:26 |
| * cwillu_at_work shrugs | 00:26 | |
| BUGabundo | cwillu_at_work: I put udev there, yes | 00:28 |
| * BUGabundo stabs exail | 00:29 | |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: What's it done to you? | 00:30 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: its their highest bug | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | still unfixed | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: which one? | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | very hard to fix... | 00:31 |
| BUGabundo | gtk popup | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | ? | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | don't have it from head | 00:32 |
| penguin42 | what's the symptom? | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | !g exaile bug critical gtk popup | 00:32 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=scrollbar | 00:32 |
| * penguin42 has been helping nail the memory leak in exaile | 00:32 | |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: ask recon :) | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | he knows all about it | 00:32 |
| penguin42 | hey exaile is working OK for me | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | even mentioning it, makes him go balistic | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | oh it works sure | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | but on N track changes, you get a popup | 00:33 |
| * penguin42 doesn't - but there again I'm running the version from bzr | 00:33 | |
| BUGabundo | me too | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | trunk | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | have too. | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | found a bug and helped fixed it last weekend | 00:34 |
| penguin42 | what does the popup say? | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | with recusive list | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: next time it pops up | 00:35 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: I mean I've had it playing for at least 2-3 hours today in a straight run wuth no dialogs | 00:38 |
| BUGabundo | let me ask in #exaile | 00:38 |
| penguin42 | :Q | 00:38 |
| * BUGabundo suits armor | 00:38 | |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Hmm, how often do you get it would you say (in songs) and are you 32 or 64bit? | 00:39 |
| BUGabundo | 64bits | 00:39 |
| penguin42 | hmm not that then | 00:40 |
| BUGabundo | can't find the darn thing in ppa | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | *LP | 00:41 |
| * BUGabundo hates LP search | 00:41 | |
| * BUGabundo hits google | 00:41 | |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: "Failed to parse stream" | 00:44 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: That sounds like you have a bad file in your library, or one for a format it doesn't understand | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/349328/ | 00:44 |
| * BUGabundo picks a band haid and patchs kmail | 00:57 | |
| BUGabundo | :( | 00:57 |
| penguin42 | is kmail still as buggy as always? | 00:58 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 00:58 |
| BUGabundo | just got a crash while deleting a thread | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | I HOPE that darn bug is fixed for good | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | and that his was just a fluke | 00:59 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: wow, you can actually use it? | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | not sure if you mean kmail | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | or n2n | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | but YES on both counts | 01:09 |
| yofel | when I start kmail it first starts fine, then the akonadi error log shows up, and when I close that kmail crashes | 01:09 |
| flootenkerp | Hi, I was told today about an ubuntu upgrade past 9.10 which is 10.4 called lucid, and I was wondering if anyone here who used it would be able to tell me if it is any good or not | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | flootenkerp: good what? | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | as in Stable? | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | NO | 01:17 |
| flootenkerp | oh, ok. So it lags and is very buggy? | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | not much | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | but if you need it in production | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | then don't use it | 01:18 |
| flootenkerp | Nah, I just use my computer for average things like surfing the web and programs etc. Is there anyway I can directly upgrade from 9.04 without losing all my files? I wanna test it out | 01:20 |
| flootenkerp | And if there is, is there a way I can downgrade back to 9.04 if it turns out I don't like it? | 01:20 |
| flootenkerp | Keeping my files, that is | 01:21 |
| penguin42 | downgrading is very hard | 01:21 |
| penguin42 | near enough impossible | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | we have TWO wines now ? | 01:21 |
| flootenkerp | Well, I guess I could use virtualbox ose to test it out | 01:22 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: wine is the stable version, 1.2 is the 1.1.X series | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | yeah I see | 01:22 |
| flootenkerp | Which is the iso I should download to test it out on vb ose? | 01:23 |
| yofel | flootenkerp: the most up-to-date ones are the dailys | 01:23 |
| yofel | !daily | 01:23 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | daily | 01:23 |
| flootenkerp | Alright, thanks | 01:23 |
| yofel | flootenkerp: if that fails you can try the alpha1 one, but that's rather old now | 01:23 |
| flootenkerp | Alright, thanks for the help guys. | 01:24 |
| bjsnider | i have constructed a debian package installer for the native 64-bit flash plugin | 02:12 |
| bjsnider | it seems to work | 02:12 |
| Ian_Corne | nice bjsnider | 02:26 |
| === astechgeek is now known as techgeek | ||
| flootenkerp | Hi, I have a question. How do I enable extra repositories for 10.04? | 03:21 |
| Flootenkerp | Hi, back. I'm on ubuntu 10.04 right now, using the iso that allows me to test it, I just want to know how I could get the extra repositories working because I can't install anything from terminal at all | 03:40 |
| bjsnider | that's not how the livecd works, nor is it the purpose of the livecd | 03:44 |
| bjsnider | at least that's what i'm assuming you're talking about | 03:44 |
| === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride | ||
| Flootenkerp | I assumed the package manager would work on the desktop trial like it did with other versions | 03:46 |
| bjsnider | trial? | 03:47 |
| Flootenkerp | not trial, tst it out before installing | 03:47 |
| Flootenkerp | test* | 03:47 |
| bjsnider | no, it builds a ramdisk which can't be altered | 03:47 |
| Flootenkerp | Ah. So if I install it it'll work? | 03:48 |
| bjsnider | you can test the kernel, the drivers, the sound and video system | 03:48 |
| bjsnider | that's the real pont, check to make sure your hardware is all working under that kernel | 03:48 |
| bjsnider | check your printer, wireless, wired lan, graphics and sound | 03:48 |
| Flootenkerp | Oh. Well everything is fine. Flash seems to be working better then 9.04, but I really wanted to test compiz. | 03:49 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: You can generally install things, but they won't persist across reboots. | 03:49 |
| Flootenkerp | I had troubles using compiz with 9.04, took me a while to get it working | 03:49 |
| bjsnider | RAOF, didn't know that | 03:49 |
| Flootenkerp | Yeah, how do you think I'm on IRC? | 03:49 |
| bjsnider | RAOF, only from main though? | 03:49 |
| Flootenkerp | I need to install a pluging for pjirc :P | 03:49 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: It's a full system; you could edit /etc/apt/sources.list to your heart's content. | 03:50 |
| bjsnider | Flootenkerp, what graphics card do you have? | 03:50 |
| Flootenkerp | Not sure | 03:50 |
| bjsnider | well you can run lspci from the console and look for the graphics entry | 03:51 |
| Flootenkerp | When I tried 9.10, which was really buggy for me, compiz worked immediately | 03:51 |
| Flootenkerp | So I wanted to see how it was on 10.04 | 03:51 |
| bjsnider | RAOF, surely there must be a strict limit on what you can install due to lack of ram | 03:52 |
| Flootenkerp | So, is there any way to install compiz just for a test? | 03:52 |
| bjsnider | compiz is already installed i think | 03:52 |
| bjsnider | you may lack the proper graphics driver though | 03:53 |
| Flootenkerp | Nah, works fine on 9.04 | 03:53 |
| Flootenkerp | I have the cube, skydome and all. | 03:53 |
| bjsnider | try enabing desktop effects in preferences/appearance | 03:54 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| RAOF | bjsnider: Yeah, you will eventually run out of ram as you install/edit stuff. | 03:57 |
| Flootenkerp | Well, so far it's been much better then 9.04. Can it download and install all the packages karmic and jaunty can? | 03:59 |
| bjsnider | look, if you think karmic was buggy, lucid would be exponentially buggier... | 03:59 |
| bjsnider | what bugs are there in karmic that you think are showstoppers? | 04:00 |
| Flootenkerp | Really? I haven't noticed anything | 04:00 |
| Flootenkerp | Well, it was laggy, flickered when opening folders sometimes programs wouldn't open | 04:00 |
| grantbourque | I had huge bugs in karmic wubi | 04:00 |
| Flootenkerp | I don't like installing wsith wubi. A disc install is much better. | 04:01 |
| Flootenkerp | What are some bugs with lucid? | 04:01 |
| grantbourque | I haven't tried out lucid actually | 04:03 |
| grantbourque | I'm going to dl it right now | 04:03 |
| Flootenkerp | Well, lucid looks awesome. I can't wait till' it's stable and ready for its actual release. | 04:03 |
| Flootenkerp | Hm, well I'll be switching back to my original ubuntu. Later. | 04:06 |
| yoasif | any smart people around? | 04:35 |
| yoasif | ;) | 04:35 |
| bjsnider | libbluray isn't upstream in debian is it? | 04:51 |
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| === KB1JWQ is now known as PFY | ||
| mMezquitale | !is it out | 06:33 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 06:33 |
| mMezquitale | is it out? | 06:33 |
| === mac_v is now known as \vish | ||
| BUGabundo_work | morning | 10:13 |
| cwillu_at_work | poke poke | 10:32 |
| cwillu_at_work | you know, I think I may be spending too much time at work | 10:33 |
| BUGabundo_work | hey cwillu_at_work | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo_work | cwillu_at_work: get into a plane, and come party with us | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo_work | got a good looking girlfriends | 11:03 |
| * cwillu_at_work considers it | 11:03 | |
| cwillu_at_work | I _did_ just get paid | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo_work | eheh | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo_work | i got a bonnus | 11:03 |
| cwillu_at_work | where are you anyway? | 11:04 |
| BUGabundo_work | ...but thats just because i didnt use my holiday days | 11:04 |
| * cwillu_at_work has forgotten :p | 11:05 | |
| * BUGabundo_work slaps carrie memory | 11:05 | |
| BUGabundo_work | Portugal | 11:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | well, then it's just pay that they thought they didn't have to pay you then :p | 11:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | that's driving distance :p | 11:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | if I leave yesterday | 11:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | no, wait :p | 11:06 |
| BUGabundo_work | :D | 11:06 |
| BUGabundo_work | glad you can make it | 11:06 |
| * BUGabundo_work sends sms to reserv another ticket | 11:06 | |
| BUGabundo_work | cwillu_at_work: here is the flyer http://www.portovivo.com/reveillon_vintage_247858.htm | 11:07 |
| cwillu_at_work | \o/ | 11:14 |
| cwillu_at_work | god I need coffee | 11:15 |
| cwillu_at_work | Anyways, I think this is where I'm supposed to say "Hey, do you know Laura? She's from portugal!" | 11:16 |
| cwillu_at_work | although I think she moved to new zealand anyway | 11:16 |
| cwillu_at_work | brb, this no coffee thing is killing me | 11:21 |
| cwillu_at_work | BUGabundo_work, which one? | 11:36 |
| BUGabundo_work | !? | 11:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | <@PSYCHOatwork> su means switch user; it just happens to switch to user 0 (root) with no arguments | 11:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | eheh | 11:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | there's something i learned in 2009 :) | 11:37 |
| cwillu_at_work | oh, never mind, google translate put me onto a different page | 11:37 |
| cwillu_at_work | ya, people talking about su and sudo and security in general is a common source of rage for me :p | 11:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | i'm not joking | 11:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | i tough su was "super user" | 11:39 |
| cwillu_at_work | well, it's not exactly unreasonable :) | 11:40 |
| mostafa_ | how can I create an ISO file from the local hard disk files? | 11:55 |
| === BUGabundo_work is now known as BUGabundo_lunch | ||
| === kinja-sheep is now known as Guest7001 | ||
| === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_work | ||
| === PFY is now known as KB1JWQ | ||
| === mac_v is now known as \vish | ||
| bjsnider | BUGabundo_work, r u on amd64 sir? | 15:20 |
| \vish | !schedule | 15:22 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Lucid Lynx (10.04) release milestones can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule | 15:22 |
| BUGabundo_work | bjsnider: YES sir | 15:31 |
| * \vish what all the "formality" is about ;) | 15:33 | |
| \vish | wonders* | 15:34 |
| bjsnider | BUGabundo_work, i managed to phony up a package that installs the flash 10 alpha plugin last night | 15:38 |
| bjsnider | based on the one in the repos that installs the 32-bit plugin with nspluginwrapper | 15:38 |
| bjsnider | it needs testing. it works here | 15:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | well i wont be home until tomorrow night :) | 15:44 |
| bjsnider | cool | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo_work | i already have flash 64bits .so for Chromium and FF | 15:44 |
| bjsnider | what this thing does, it downloads the plugin, hash checks it, unpacks it, puts it in a /usr/share directory and then links every browser plugins directory to it through alternatives | 15:47 |
| bjsnider | and also all of that will be undone if you remove it, so you don't have to do that manually anymore | 15:47 |
| BUGabundo_work | cool | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | ask for a merge D | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo_work | talk to asac | 15:51 |
| BluesKaj | chromium-browser was failing to load several sites that I rely on , so i switched to chrome-beta..problem solved | 15:51 |
| bjsnider | which sits? | 15:52 |
| bjsnider | sites | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_work | i just sent them our chat log :D | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_work | #ubuntu-mozillateam | 15:52 |
| BluesKaj | my igoogle page for one | 15:52 |
| bjsnider | uhh | 15:52 |
| bjsnider | i didn't want to go that far | 15:52 |
| BUGabundo_work | oh cool, webchat autocompletes #s :D | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | BluesKaj: daily here, working fine | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | well not daily, two days ago or somethng | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | forgot to upgrade today | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | chrome beta isn't much different , just better for me | 15:54 |
| duffydack | Scale plugin fail. It cant switch to an app thats on a desktop thats above/below | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | duffydack: talk to Amaranth | 16:04 |
| Amaranth | eh? | 16:04 |
| === \vish is now known as mac_v | ||
| mac_v | Amaranth: hi... ! how does alacarte manage to show icons on buttons even with the default gnome settings? [no icons on buttons] | 16:07 |
| mac_v | what flag does it use? | 16:07 |
| Amaranth | mac_v: each button is setup to contain a custom widget then I stick an hbox in with an image and a label | 16:08 |
| duffydack | its a limitation in karmic as well... I have 4 horizontal and 2 vertical, using scale plugin to see all apps running and selecting 1 from thats not on the same horizontal set, it cant.. | 16:08 |
| Amaranth | mac_v: that's not the proper way though | 16:08 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: ah.. so you kinda hacked it... cool :) | 16:09 |
| Amaranth | mac_v: that's just how glade forced me to do it long ago | 16:09 |
| mac_v | ;) | 16:11 |
| === mac_v is now known as \vish | ||
| natewiebe13 | I'm using the ubuntu-desktop ppa with the updated gtk2.0+ and nautilus. for some reason the file browser will not browse through the filesystem (go into a different folder) if i use sudo, it works fine. file browsing through programs works fine.. anyone else experiencing the same problem? | 16:25 |
| BUGabundo_work | and me thinking running +1 was crazy enough | 16:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | and ppl run +1 plus PPA :) | 16:28 |
| natewiebe13 | :P | 16:29 |
| natewiebe13 | yeah.. im thinking i will have to revert | 16:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | by guys. see you tomorrow. enjoy your party. i know i will | 16:34 |
| Ian_Corne | cya BUGabundo_work | 16:34 |
| Ian_Corne | you too :) | 16:34 |
| yofel | hi and bye BUGabundo_work :P | 16:34 |
| CarlFK | just installed daily, won't boot into X - the display is switching video modes, I see flashes of text mode text that look like a login prompt and a one line error | 16:47 |
| CarlFK | my goal is to see if a gtk bug has been fixed, but I'll dig into this problem if someone will give me some guidance | 16:48 |
| penguin42 | CarlFK: See if there is anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 16:56 |
| CarlFK | penguin42: keyboard doesn't seem to be responding - capslock doesn't toggle the light | 16:58 |
| penguin42 | will ctrl-alt-f2 get you a login prompt? | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | guessing I need to reboot into text and walk though the boot scripts | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | c-a-f2 - nothign | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | display still flipping through video modes | 16:59 |
| penguin42 | reboot into text mode and see if there is anything useful left in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or any of the other logs | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | what's the trick to getting the grub menu? | 17:01 |
| penguin42 | shift | 17:02 |
| penguin42 | just after the bios - keep tapping the shift key | 17:02 |
| CarlFK | woa... so I picked rescue, got the Recovery Menu, but the keyboard is .. whacked. capslock=nothing, but arrow keys put chars on the screen at the menu cursor overwriting the "Rescue..." text | 17:05 |
| CarlFK | c-a-f2 = blank screen | 17:05 |
| penguin42 | hmm, work through ctrl-alt-f1...f10 see which one is most useful | 17:06 |
| CarlFK | oh weird - holding down down-arrow, more garbled chars then cursor moved down | 17:06 |
| CarlFK | at a # prompt now | 17:06 |
| penguin42 | ok, so I'd look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 17:07 |
| CarlFK | this is like some april-fools prank.... | 17:09 |
| CarlFK | I type "cat" and see "c", hit enter, see "cat: command not found" | 17:10 |
| CarlFK | did it again... | 17:10 |
| CarlFK | I type "cat" and see "c", hit enter, see "cGarbled time" | 17:10 |
| penguin42 | try a rescue disk | 17:10 |
| CarlFK | good plan | 17:11 |
| CarlFK | c-a-d works | 17:11 |
| CarlFK | bingo: [ 0.180193] (==) NV(0): DPMS enabled; Backtrace: ... 2: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f67c58fa000+0xf190) [0x7f67c5909190]; Segmentation fault at address (nil) http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/a/Xorg.0.log | 17:19 |
| * penguin42 doesn't know much about the nvidia | 17:21 | |
| CarlFK | Ill talk to the #xorg | 17:22 |
| dabaR | I installed flashplugin package, but my Fx does not recognize it. | 17:38 |
| dabaR | Wasn't there a sym link we used to have to do in one of the first versions of Ubuntu? Maybe that is missing | 17:39 |
| penguin42 | dabaR: In your ~/.mozilla/firefox/funnyname there is a file called pluginreg.dat - quit firefox, delete the pluginreg.dat and restart - see if it fixes it | 17:41 |
| dabaR | tx | 17:41 |
| dabaR | brb | 17:42 |
| CarlFK | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error | 18:00 |
| CarlFK | booted live cd, im trying to apt-get install into the system mounted under /media/sda1 | 18:00 |
| penguin42 | 64bit v 32bit ? | 18:01 |
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| CarlFK | ah, yep. | 18:01 |
| CarlFK | thanks | 18:01 |
| CarlFK | any easy way around this? (other than booting a 64 bit live | 18:02 |
| penguin42 | not easily, you can't run 64bit binaries on a 32bit kernel | 18:03 |
| CarlFK | oh, and apt-get will .. um.. yeah | 18:04 |
| CarlFK | bash is just the first problem | 18:04 |
| dabaR | penguin42: nope, deleting that pluginreg did not help | 18:10 |
| penguin42 | dabaR: Are you 32 or 64 bit? | 18:11 |
| dabaR | 32 | 18:18 |
| penguin42 | hmm that should be the easy one | 18:19 |
| dabaR | for sure:) | 18:20 |
| dabaR | penguin42: Ah! | 18:20 |
| dabaR | Heh | 18:20 |
| dabaR | I remember I have another fx window open in another workspace | 18:20 |
| penguin42 | ah | 18:21 |
| penguin42 | kill it, kill them all.... | 18:21 |
| dabaR | works just fine | 18:21 |
| dabaR | thanks | 18:21 |
| bjsnider | CarlFK, if you're using the nv driver you'll inevitably have issues | 18:48 |
| jetsaredim | question: went to try out empathy on the lucid livecd and there doesn't seem to be any option for setting up irc accounts | 19:20 |
| jetsaredim | am i missing something? | 19:20 |
| geser | telepathy-idle is installed? | 19:24 |
| jetsaredim | geser: you talking to me? | 19:26 |
| geser | yes | 19:26 |
| jetsaredim | o - in that case - yes it is | 19:27 |
| jetsaredim | 0.1.5-1 | 19:27 |
| geser | then I've no idea | 19:28 |
| jetsaredim | just seemed odd in that irc is the main support channel (other than launchpad) and empathy seems to have poor irc support | 19:34 |
| sal_ | jetsaredim, i still on xchat | 19:54 |
| jetsaredim | sal_: i've had to install pidgin on 9.10 to get around empathy | 19:55 |
| drabina | What is policy about ppa repos related to kde (kubuntu 10.04 LTS edition). If I enable ppa repo (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main), does it mean I will get updates based on kde for 4.4.x (let say bug fix updates) or latest version of kde in general (for instance 4.6.x after two years)? | 20:03 |
| jetsaredim | i don't see what having a karmic ppa repo enabled would do for you | 20:08 |
| jetsaredim | if you are using lucid | 20:08 |
| drabina | oh. karmik is just an example | 20:08 |
| bjsnider | drabina, it's a question for whomever owns the ppa | 20:09 |
| bjsnider | only they know what they'll be putting in there | 20:09 |
| yoasif | does anyone have any idea why istanbul recommends installation of cvs and cvsnt? | 20:09 |
| bjsnider | at first i thought you were talking about the largest city in turkey | 20:12 |
| drabina | Ok. so maybe in other way.. Let say, lucid would be based on gnome 2.30, does it mean I need to enable ppa lucid main for gnome 2.30.x bugfix releases? | 20:13 |
| yoasif | bjsnider, haha | 20:13 |
| bjsnider | i can't figure out why a turkish city recommends ubuntu packages... | 20:13 |
| geser | yoasif: "aptitude why istanbul cvs" -> istanbul depends on gettext which recomments cvs | 20:13 |
| yoasif | geser, ha, any particular reason that it depends on gettext? pretty odd requirement, it seems | 20:14 |
| yoasif | maybe i'm wrong | 20:14 |
| geser | drabina: some selected gnome bugfix release will probably get uploaded to -updates as SRUs | 20:15 |
| geser | yoasif: I didn't look in detail yet | 20:15 |
| yoasif | geser, no prob :) | 20:16 |
| drabina | geser: I have these questions, beacuse I'm really confused. I haven't found informations about what will/won't be included as standard package updates for lucid. | 20:27 |
| geser | drabina: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 20:30 |
| bjsnider | lucid might be different because of the lts factor | 20:30 |
| drabina | geser: ok, thanx! | 20:31 |
| bjsnider | did they add new versions of gnome and kde to hardy over the past couple of years? | 20:31 |
| alex_mayorga | Can anyone on lucid 64 bit do tracert commands? | 20:32 |
| genii | bjsnider: Well, hardy was the big kde3-kde4 shift | 20:32 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: Oddly, it didn't seem to be installed by default, but having installed it, it seems to work | 20:34 |
| bjsnider | but hardy does not currently have packages for gnome 3.38 does it? | 20:34 |
| bjsnider | 2.28 i mean | 20:34 |
| alex_mayorga | penguin42: I installed like "sudo aptitude install traceroute" yet when I invoke tracert I get the suggestion to install | 20:35 |
| alex_mayorga | weird | 20:35 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: traceroute not tracert | 20:35 |
| alex_mayorga | then this error message is buggy I guess "$ tracert | 20:36 |
| alex_mayorga | The program 'tracert' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | 20:36 |
| alex_mayorga | sudo apt-get install traceroute | 20:36 |
| alex_mayorga | tracert: command not found" | 20:36 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: That's because it's not tracert | 20:36 |
| penguin42 | oh I see what you mean | 20:37 |
| genii | !info gnome hardy | 20:37 |
| ubottu | gnome (source: meta-gnome2): The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.20.2.2ubuntu0.1 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB | 20:37 |
| alex_mayorga | !info tracert | 20:37 |
| ubottu | Package tracert does not exist in lucid | 20:37 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: Yeh that looks like the error is wrong - I'm not sure where that comes from | 20:37 |
| alex_mayorga | penguin42: I'm pretty sure tracert existed back in the day | 20:38 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: Hmm, never seen it on unix, it's the windows name for the same thing | 20:38 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: Ooh, you're right, on my karmic box it's there, it's a link | 20:39 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: But I can't figure out what put it there | 20:39 |
| alex_mayorga | penguin42: thanks on confirming I'm not crazy | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | alex_mayorga: Well I can't go that far :-) | 20:48 |
| alex_mayorga | :) | 20:50 |
| alex_mayorga | I'll chase it when I come back from lunch :D | 20:50 |
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| * penguin42 yawns | 23:27 | |
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