| nigel_nb | Rocket2DMn: you around? have a doubt | 02:04 |
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| Rocket2DMn | yo | 02:05 |
| nigel_nb | yesterday when triaging bugs, I came across an installation docs bug | 02:05 |
| nigel_nb | for karmic | 02:05 |
| Rocket2DMn | link/number? | 02:05 |
| nigel_nb | the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/installation-guide/+bug/501575 | 02:05 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 501575 in installation-guide "link to 9.04 where 9.10 is more appropriate" [Undecided,New] | 02:05 |
| nigel_nb | I checked the source | 02:05 |
| nigel_nb | apparently, when the xml got changed to html, it was done on jaunty and so its jaunty everywhere instead of karmic | 02:06 |
| nigel_nb | thats just my guess, not really sure | 02:06 |
| nigel_nb | bug 501572 is also similar - jaunty instead of karmic | 02:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 501572 in installation-guide "href link to jaunty where karmic is best suited" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501572 | 02:07 |
| Rocket2DMn | hmm | 02:10 |
| nigel_nb | can you fix it? | 02:10 |
| nigel_nb | it seems to be part of the wiki that's locked | 02:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | it's not on the wiki | 02:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | /community indicates the wiki | 02:11 |
| nigel_nb | oh, its just on the same domain | 02:11 |
| nigel_nb | but not part of wiki | 02:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | right | 02:12 |
| nigel_nb | so its not fixable? :( | 02:13 |
| Rocket2DMn | I'm not really clear on how the installation-guide stuff works, there was talk of writing something new for Karmic, but it looks like what we have is a modified version from Debian upstream | 02:14 |
| nigel_nb | hold on, I'll show you how the source looks, I branched it off yday | 02:14 |
| nigel_nb | Rocket2DMn: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/karmic/installation-guide/karmic/annotate/head%3A/en/install-methods/downloading-files.xml | 02:17 |
| nigel_nb | thats off the install docs branch | 02:18 |
| Rocket2DMn | i branched the source from lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/installation-guide/ubuntu | 02:20 |
| Rocket2DMn | well, it clearly is wrong, but there isnt anything i can directly do about it | 02:21 |
| nigel_nb | oh :( | 02:22 |
| nigel_nb | is it possible to submit a diff or something like that? | 02:22 |
| Rocket2DMn | i think you need to talk to cjwatson | 02:22 |
| nigel_nb | will he be around this time? | 02:22 |
| Rocket2DMn | im not sure if he ever hangs out in here, you might try -devel or -bugs | 02:23 |
| Rocket2DMn | are you in bugcontrol? | 02:23 |
| nigel_nb | bug squad | 02:23 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok, well you can mark duplicates and confirm bugs | 02:23 |
| nigel_nb | yep | 02:23 |
| Rocket2DMn | it looks like the installation-guide is pretty neglected though | 02:24 |
| nigel_nb | yep | 02:24 |
| nigel_nb | I was hoping to do a thorough review of all the bugs and get it corrected :) | 02:24 |
| Rocket2DMn | sounds good, i would contact the maintainer first though to see if it is still actively developed, or if they plan to drop it | 02:25 |
| nigel_nb | I thought it was part of the doc team :( | 02:25 |
| Rocket2DMn | naw, it's not a branch we have access to | 02:26 |
| Rocket2DMn | that would make sense though :) | 02:26 |
| nigel_nb | yea, since doc team are the people who have the best chance and time to correct it | 02:26 |
| Rocket2DMn | i wouldnt go so far as to say that, but it would seem to be in our realm of work | 02:27 |
| nigel_nb | :) | 02:27 |
| Rocket2DMn | if you want to post patches for ubuntu-docs bugs, that would be great though :) | 02:27 |
| Rocket2DMn | we have a lot of outstanding bugs | 02:27 |
| nigel_nb | oh | 02:27 |
| nigel_nb | I'd love to | 02:27 |
| nigel_nb | I'm part of doc team anyway | 02:27 |
| Rocket2DMn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs | 02:28 |
| nigel_nb | yelp? | 02:28 |
| Rocket2DMn | i've applied importance to most of them | 02:28 |
| nigel_nb | or xml format/ | 02:28 |
| Rocket2DMn | yelp is just the program that the docs are viewed in, they are written in docbook xml | 02:28 |
| nigel_nb | ah | 02:28 |
| Rocket2DMn | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation | 02:28 |
| nigel_nb | can you walk me through the whole patching writing process? | 02:28 |
| nigel_nb | is it the same as for a deb? | 02:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | do yo uknow how to download a bzr branch? | 02:29 |
| nigel_nb | yep | 02:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | bzr branch lp:~some-branch right | 02:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | that is most of the work :) | 02:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | you can make edits to the files, then post diffs | 02:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | so for instance, bzr branch lp:ubuntu-docs | 02:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | gets you the development branch | 02:30 |
| nigel_nb | the trunk.. | 02:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | the wiki link i posted about basicaly shows yo ueverything you need | 02:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | yes, essentially the trunk | 02:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | you can't push to it, but you can post diffs as patches in bugs | 02:31 |
| Rocket2DMn | walk through the Repository, Edition, Checking, and Submitting pages on the wiki link above | 02:31 |
| nigel_nb | okay :) | 02:31 |
| Rocket2DMn | basically after you make a change, you run (from the root of the branch): scripts/validate.sh document/C/document.xml | 02:31 |
| Rocket2DMn | let me just point out that some C/ folders have multiple files, but you always run that scripts against the xml file with the name of the super-super directory | 02:32 |
| Rocket2DMn | so for example, if you edit the web-servers.xml file in serverguide/C/ | 02:32 |
| Rocket2DMn | you still run scripts/validate.sh serverguide/C/serverguide.xml | 02:33 |
| nigel_nb | ah | 02:33 |
| nigel_nb | so I need to validate everything I edit | 02:33 |
| Rocket2DMn | you can view the changes in yelp to make sure the formatting looks good and it reads well | 02:33 |
| Rocket2DMn | yes | 02:33 |
| Rocket2DMn | when you're finished, you run something like: bzr diff > ~/my-fix.patch | 02:33 |
| Rocket2DMn | then attach my-fix.patch to the appropriate bug report | 02:34 |
| Rocket2DMn | you can assign bug reports to yourself while you work on them, too | 02:34 |
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| nigel_nb | Rocket2DMn: great :), will try fixing a few today :) | 02:37 |
| Rocket2DMn | awesome nigel_nb , i will review your patches when i get a chance | 02:38 |
| nigel_nb | :) | 02:38 |
| Rocket2DMn | thanks for helping out | 02:38 |
| nigel_nb | no problem, thanks for your time :) | 02:38 |
| Traveler5 | anybody here? | 15:32 |
| === starcraft is now known as starcraftman | ||
| Traveler5 | I have question about the Ubuntu Documentation team | 15:35 |
| starcraftman | darn, missed the question from traveler | 18:03 |
| === starcraft is now known as starcraftman | ||
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: question, I'm dealing with deletion cue. One of pages, forum/talk, I'm not sure how to find where it's linked to. Doing a linkto: search doesn't work cuz its so generic a name. | 21:14 |
| * Rocket2DMn looks | 21:16 | |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: what happens to the pages that have the tag not supported, do they get marked for deletion as well | 21:17 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: well depends. If they are relevant to today, they could be updated. | 21:17 |
| Rocket2DMn | it's not too generic, it links oyu back to the Deletion page which is the only page that links to it | 21:17 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: alright thanks :D | 21:17 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: ah, ok. | 21:17 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: if it's not relevent then yes, ya can tag it for deletion. | 21:18 |
| Rocket2DMn | there are actually a number of forum/ pages | 21:18 |
| dhillon-v10 | dhillon-v10: alright just looking at that :) deleting pages is easy right, you just press delete | 21:18 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: on the community wiki? No, you need admin rights, and pages need delinking. | 21:19 |
| Rocket2DMn | starcraftman, a lot of those forum/ pages can probably be deleted and/or have material moved to appropriate pages | 21:19 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: oh I know that | 21:19 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: ya it does seem there are a lot, I just did a quick search for forum. cue first. | 21:20 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: hey can you help me a little with packaging, I have a debdiff but I don't know if it looks right | 21:21 |
| Rocket2DMn | dhillon-v10, idk anything about packaging, sorry man | 21:22 |
| Rocket2DMn | i'd like to learn but cant seem to find the time | 21:22 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: alright :) thanks anyways | 21:22 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: you may wanna try #ubuntu-beginners-dev | 21:23 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: oh yah that too :) | 21:36 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: hehe, feels good deleting stuff. Does fill up recent changes quick. | 21:41 |
| Rocket2DMn | lol starcraftman , yeah, that's ok though, the wiki needs attention | 21:42 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: rgr, btw, question, know when first bt meeting is in Jan? I'm thinking of having a doc team meeting weekend after. | 21:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | I'm not sure, I was just thinking about when our next team meeting was | 21:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | afaik it hasn't been scheduled, normally it would be next Tuesday | 21:43 |
| starcraftman | right, that's what I thought, we usually meet first and third weeks no? | 21:44 |
| starcraftman | I'll ask bodhi or nhandler later, they do scheduling. | 21:44 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: what's the Package Pages option under more actions? | 21:49 |
| Rocket2DMn | I have no idea | 21:49 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: there a complete documentation on all these buttons? I'm afraid to click some things now that I'm admin >< | 21:50 |
| starcraftman | buttons > options | 21:50 |
| Rocket2DMn | whatever you do can be undone | 21:51 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: oh that's reassuring :p | 21:52 |
| Rocket2DMn | hehe | 21:53 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: oh geez, deleting pdf printer page. I remember when we still had to set that up annoyingly. Nice. | 21:58 |
| Rocket2DMn | lol those were the days | 21:59 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: it's got a redirect on it, I have to delete redirects then the page right? Or is it automatic? | 21:59 |
| Rocket2DMn | you need to delete any pages that redirect to it | 21:59 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: right, like I thought. | 22:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | I wish there was a way to have it tell you if pages redirect to a page, even if you didnt take that redirect to get there | 22:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | there might be a way, but idk what it is | 22:00 |
| starcraftman | hmmm, should be a way. Can ya search for the #redirect page markup? | 22:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | im not sure | 22:02 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: this channel too quiet. This'd be perfect oppurtunity for someone to go "actually just do x, it's easy" | 22:04 |
| Rocket2DMn | indeed, but it's not a busy channel, so here we are | 22:06 |
| Rocket2DMn | I'm just trying to knock out a couple of bugs here before dinner | 22:07 |
| Rocket2DMn | starting SRU on a few bugs, though they will probably be rejected | 22:09 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: sounds good, I finished my gnomebaker page and made some other edits to others before doing admin. Overall pretty productive. Getting some chinese takeout for family tonight, nice reward :) | 22:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | awesome | 22:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | I haven't figured out what I'm doing for dinner yet, might go to my buddy's place and pick up a burrito on the way | 22:13 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: nifty, an ad for broadband in South Africa on docs. | 22:44 |
| Rocket2DMn | lol | 22:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | wiki page? | 22:46 |
| starcraftman | aye | 22:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | easy to remove | 22:48 |
| starcraftman | oh indeed, just amused. | 22:48 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: happy new year, later | 22:51 |
| Rocket2DMn | peace starcraftman | 22:53 |
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