[02:04] Rocket2DMn: you around? have a doubt [02:05] yo [02:05] yesterday when triaging bugs, I came across an installation docs bug [02:05] for karmic [02:05] link/number? [02:05] the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/installation-guide/+bug/501575 [02:05] Launchpad bug 501575 in installation-guide "link to 9.04 where 9.10 is more appropriate" [Undecided,New] [02:05] I checked the source [02:06] apparently, when the xml got changed to html, it was done on jaunty and so its jaunty everywhere instead of karmic [02:06] thats just my guess, not really sure [02:07] bug 501572 is also similar - jaunty instead of karmic [02:07] Launchpad bug 501572 in installation-guide "href link to jaunty where karmic is best suited" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501572 [02:10] hmm [02:10] can you fix it? [02:11] it seems to be part of the wiki that's locked [02:11] it's not on the wiki [02:11] /community indicates the wiki [02:11] oh, its just on the same domain [02:11] but not part of wiki [02:12] right [02:13] so its not fixable? :( [02:14] I'm not really clear on how the installation-guide stuff works, there was talk of writing something new for Karmic, but it looks like what we have is a modified version from Debian upstream [02:14] hold on, I'll show you how the source looks, I branched it off yday [02:17] Rocket2DMn: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/karmic/installation-guide/karmic/annotate/head%3A/en/install-methods/downloading-files.xml [02:18] thats off the install docs branch [02:20] i branched the source from lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/installation-guide/ubuntu [02:21] well, it clearly is wrong, but there isnt anything i can directly do about it [02:22] oh :( [02:22] is it possible to submit a diff or something like that? [02:22] i think you need to talk to cjwatson [02:22] will he be around this time? [02:23] im not sure if he ever hangs out in here, you might try -devel or -bugs [02:23] are you in bugcontrol? [02:23] bug squad [02:23] ok, well you can mark duplicates and confirm bugs [02:23] yep [02:24] it looks like the installation-guide is pretty neglected though [02:24] yep [02:24] I was hoping to do a thorough review of all the bugs and get it corrected :) [02:25] sounds good, i would contact the maintainer first though to see if it is still actively developed, or if they plan to drop it [02:25] I thought it was part of the doc team :( [02:26] naw, it's not a branch we have access to [02:26] that would make sense though :) [02:26] yea, since doc team are the people who have the best chance and time to correct it [02:27] i wouldnt go so far as to say that, but it would seem to be in our realm of work [02:27] :) [02:27] if you want to post patches for ubuntu-docs bugs, that would be great though :) [02:27] we have a lot of outstanding bugs [02:27] oh [02:27] I'd love to [02:27] I'm part of doc team anyway [02:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs [02:28] yelp? [02:28] i've applied importance to most of them [02:28] or xml format/ [02:28] yelp is just the program that the docs are viewed in, they are written in docbook xml [02:28] ah [02:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation [02:28] can you walk me through the whole patching writing process? [02:29] is it the same as for a deb? [02:29] do yo uknow how to download a bzr branch? [02:29] yep [02:29] bzr branch lp:~some-branch right [02:29] that is most of the work :) [02:29] you can make edits to the files, then post diffs [02:30] so for instance, bzr branch lp:ubuntu-docs [02:30] gets you the development branch [02:30] the trunk.. [02:30] the wiki link i posted about basicaly shows yo ueverything you need [02:30] yes, essentially the trunk [02:31] you can't push to it, but you can post diffs as patches in bugs [02:31] walk through the Repository, Edition, Checking, and Submitting pages on the wiki link above [02:31] okay :) [02:31] basically after you make a change, you run (from the root of the branch): scripts/validate.sh document/C/document.xml [02:32] let me just point out that some C/ folders have multiple files, but you always run that scripts against the xml file with the name of the super-super directory [02:32] so for example, if you edit the web-servers.xml file in serverguide/C/ [02:33] you still run scripts/validate.sh serverguide/C/serverguide.xml [02:33] ah [02:33] so I need to validate everything I edit [02:33] you can view the changes in yelp to make sure the formatting looks good and it reads well [02:33] yes [02:33] when you're finished, you run something like: bzr diff > ~/my-fix.patch [02:34] then attach my-fix.patch to the appropriate bug report [02:34] you can assign bug reports to yourself while you work on them, too === astechgeek is now known as techgeek [02:37] Rocket2DMn: great :), will try fixing a few today :) [02:38] awesome nigel_nb , i will review your patches when i get a chance [02:38] :) [02:38] thanks for helping out [02:38] no problem, thanks for your time :) [15:32] anybody here? === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [15:35] I have question about the Ubuntu Documentation team [18:03] darn, missed the question from traveler === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [21:14] Rocket2DMn: question, I'm dealing with deletion cue. One of pages, forum/talk, I'm not sure how to find where it's linked to. Doing a linkto: search doesn't work cuz its so generic a name. [21:16] * Rocket2DMn looks [21:17] starcraftman: what happens to the pages that have the tag not supported, do they get marked for deletion as well [21:17] dhillon-v10: well depends. If they are relevant to today, they could be updated. [21:17] it's not too generic, it links oyu back to the Deletion page which is the only page that links to it [21:17] starcraftman: alright thanks :D [21:17] Rocket2DMn: ah, ok. [21:18] dhillon-v10: if it's not relevent then yes, ya can tag it for deletion. [21:18] there are actually a number of forum/ pages [21:18] dhillon-v10: alright just looking at that :) deleting pages is easy right, you just press delete [21:19] dhillon-v10: on the community wiki? No, you need admin rights, and pages need delinking. [21:19] starcraftman, a lot of those forum/ pages can probably be deleted and/or have material moved to appropriate pages [21:19] starcraftman: oh I know that [21:20] Rocket2DMn: ya it does seem there are a lot, I just did a quick search for forum. cue first. [21:21] Rocket2DMn: hey can you help me a little with packaging, I have a debdiff but I don't know if it looks right [21:22] dhillon-v10, idk anything about packaging, sorry man [21:22] i'd like to learn but cant seem to find the time [21:22] Rocket2DMn: alright :) thanks anyways [21:23] dhillon-v10: you may wanna try #ubuntu-beginners-dev [21:36] starcraftman: oh yah that too :) [21:41] Rocket2DMn: hehe, feels good deleting stuff. Does fill up recent changes quick. [21:42] lol starcraftman , yeah, that's ok though, the wiki needs attention [21:43] Rocket2DMn: rgr, btw, question, know when first bt meeting is in Jan? I'm thinking of having a doc team meeting weekend after. [21:43] I'm not sure, I was just thinking about when our next team meeting was [21:43] afaik it hasn't been scheduled, normally it would be next Tuesday [21:44] right, that's what I thought, we usually meet first and third weeks no? [21:44] I'll ask bodhi or nhandler later, they do scheduling. [21:49] Rocket2DMn: what's the Package Pages option under more actions? [21:49] I have no idea [21:50] Rocket2DMn: there a complete documentation on all these buttons? I'm afraid to click some things now that I'm admin >< [21:50] buttons > options [21:51] whatever you do can be undone [21:52] Rocket2DMn: oh that's reassuring :p [21:53] hehe [21:58] Rocket2DMn: oh geez, deleting pdf printer page. I remember when we still had to set that up annoyingly. Nice. [21:59] lol those were the days [21:59] Rocket2DMn: it's got a redirect on it, I have to delete redirects then the page right? Or is it automatic? [21:59] you need to delete any pages that redirect to it [22:00] Rocket2DMn: right, like I thought. [22:00] I wish there was a way to have it tell you if pages redirect to a page, even if you didnt take that redirect to get there [22:00] there might be a way, but idk what it is [22:02] hmmm, should be a way. Can ya search for the #redirect page markup? [22:02] im not sure [22:04] Rocket2DMn: this channel too quiet. This'd be perfect oppurtunity for someone to go "actually just do x, it's easy" [22:06] indeed, but it's not a busy channel, so here we are [22:07] I'm just trying to knock out a couple of bugs here before dinner [22:09] starting SRU on a few bugs, though they will probably be rejected [22:11] Rocket2DMn: sounds good, I finished my gnomebaker page and made some other edits to others before doing admin. Overall pretty productive. Getting some chinese takeout for family tonight, nice reward :) [22:12] awesome [22:13] I haven't figured out what I'm doing for dinner yet, might go to my buddy's place and pick up a burrito on the way [22:44] Rocket2DMn: nifty, an ad for broadband in South Africa on docs. [22:46] lol [22:46] wiki page? [22:46] aye [22:48] easy to remove [22:48] oh indeed, just amused. [22:51] Rocket2DMn: happy new year, later [22:53] peace starcraftman