[18:42] <BUGabundo> boas o/
[19:18] <e-jat> BUGabundo: u use chromium ?
[19:19] <BUGabundo> yep
[19:19] <BUGabundo> why e-jat?
[19:19] <e-jat> manage to get java plugin work ?
[19:24] <e-jat> BUGabundo: ?
[19:24] <BUGabundo> humm
[19:24] <BUGabundo> not sure
[19:24] <BUGabundo> I'll have to try
[19:24] <BUGabundo> anysite you recommend e-jat ?
[19:24] <BUGabundo> sun used to have a testing site
[19:24] <BUGabundo> let me loook for it
[19:25] <e-jat> facebook :)
[19:25] <e-jat> it detected sun java6 update 15 .. but latest is update 17
[19:26] <BUGabundo> don't have a facebook account
[19:27] <BUGabundo> e-jat: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[19:27] <BUGabundo> Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[19:27] <BUGabundo> Your Java version is Version 6 Update 16. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your computer.
[19:27] <BUGabundo> well seems I have it in chromium
[19:27] <BUGabundo> but why are we behind oficial java?
[19:28] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin   Installed: 6-16-1
[19:28] <e-jat> hmm .. .. u have update 16 ?
[19:28] <e-jat> Installed: 6-15-1 :(
[19:29] <BUGabundo> e-jat: lucid :)
[19:29] <e-jat> BUGabundo: owh no wonder ..
[19:29] <e-jat> lucid for production ?
[19:29] <BUGabundo> but still behing java oficial package
[19:29] <BUGabundo> e-jat: production ?? naa just my home laptop
[19:29] <BUGabundo> I always run +1
[19:29] <BUGabundo> ever since 7.04
[19:29] <BUGabundo> 6.10 started in beta :D
[19:29] <e-jat> i mean u use for daily jobs :)
[19:30] <e-jat> i also do like u previous .. but this time .. not decide yet :)
[19:30] <e-jat> hows everything in lucid ?
[19:31] <e-jat> sun-java6-plugin:
[19:31] <e-jat>   Installed: 6-15-1
[19:31] <e-jat> works for firefox ..
[19:31] <BUGabundo> e-jat: usually +1 is pretty safe, if you know what you are doing, read a bit of changelogs, and don't to any abusurd upgrade
[19:31] <e-jat> chromium :(
[19:31] <BUGabundo> #ubuntu+1 is also a nice place to checkout new stuff
[19:31] <e-jat> BUGabundo: yeah
[19:31] <BUGabundo> e-jat:  http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1  ?
[19:31] <BUGabundo> doesn't work in chromium ?
[19:32] <BUGabundo> Lucid is just like karmic right now
[19:32] <e-jat> trying ..
[19:32] <BUGabundo> with a broken X
[19:32] <BUGabundo> and minor kde crashes
[19:32] <e-jat> ouch
[19:32] <BUGabundo> *minor*
[19:32] <e-jat> Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[19:32] <e-jat> Your Java version is Version 6 Update 15. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your computer.
[19:33] <e-jat> y update 16 is not backport to karmic :(
[19:34] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[19:34] <BUGabundo> so you HAVE JAVA
[19:34] <BUGabundo> cool
[19:34] <BUGabundo> isn't there a PPA for it or something ?
[19:34] <BUGabundo> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-java/+archive/ppa
[19:34] <BUGabundo>  /google ppa java
[19:34] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[19:34] <BUGabundo> yes tehre is
[19:34] <BUGabundo> lol
[19:35] <e-jat> http://www.javatester.org/enabled.html
[19:35] <e-jat> http://www.pogo.com/misc/sun-java/plug-in-test.jsp
[19:36] <e-jat> seems chromium working fine with java plugin
[19:36] <BUGabundo> The version of the Java plug-in that is installed on your computer is up-to-date and should be functioning properly
[19:37] <BUGabundo> http://qos.sapo.pt/ this aint working right :(
[19:38] <e-jat> me too
[19:38] <micahg> e-jat: 6.16 was added to jaunty but not karmic
[19:39] <e-jat> micahg: owh ..
[19:39] <micahg> yeah, when 6-16 was added, they didn't know if sun java was going to be in karmic
[19:39] <e-jat> ic ..
[19:41] <Xfact> hey
[19:41] <Xfact> mozzila latest version working on ubuntu hardy?
[19:42] <micahg> Xfact: only in the daily archive at the moment
[19:42] <micahg> *daily ppa
[19:42] <micahg> no stable releases at present
[19:42] <micahg> that will hopefully change when Lucid is released
[19:42] <micahg> *before Lucid is releasee
[19:42] <micahg> *released
[19:42] <Xfact> ohh...daily packages are usable?
[19:43] <BUGabundo> Xfact: 3.7 is for me
[19:43] <micahg> Xfact: well, the 3.5 dailies should be pretty stable
[19:43] <BUGabundo> LOL
[19:43] <BUGabundo> pretty stable AHAH
[19:43] <Xfact> bug...: oh
[19:43] <BUGabundo> well they don't get that many updates, that's for sure
[19:44] <micahg> 3.5 branch only takes well tested changes
[19:44] <BUGabundo> since 3.5 is a stable release
[19:44] <BUGabundo> micahg: what got into it this days ?
[19:44] <Xfact> actually I am new in Ubuntu or linux so not confident...
[19:44] <micahg> BUGabundo: but the dailies are not stable releases
[19:44] <BUGabundo> I know
[19:44] <BUGabundo> they break as hell , some times
[19:44] <micahg> BUGabundo: bot upload is broke :)
[19:44] <micahg> fta: bot broke?
[19:44] <BUGabundo> chromium daily is acting up again :(
[19:44] <Xfact> 3.5 is enough for me...in hardy defult is 3.0.16 :(
[19:44] <BUGabundo> Xfact: 3.0 is slowwwwww
[19:45] <Xfact> I knowwwwwwww
[19:45] <BUGabundo> well 3.5 is faster, sure, but 3.7 is MUCH faster
[19:45] <BUGabundo> then again, chromium beats ALL of them by far
[19:45] <micahg> 3.6 is much faster than 3.5
[19:45] <Xfact> so I came here...but I am using 3.5.6 privately...from Mozzila website
[19:45]  * micahg runs 3.6b5
[19:45] <BUGabundo> but I miss my FF addons
[19:45] <BUGabundo> micahg: 3.7 is even faster then 3.6
[19:45] <BUGabundo> not by much, but still
[19:45] <micahg> BUGabundo: yes, but I won't use the alpha for production :)
[19:45] <micahg> beta I will
[19:46] <Xfact> good...but I hate unwanted crashes :(
[19:46] <Xfact> wellanybody running firefox on Lucid?
[19:46]  * micahg can't wait for 3.7 to hit beta
[19:46] <micahg> probably shortly after Lucid released
[19:46] <micahg> *release
[19:48] <ejat> micahg: for u .. which one is better .. openjdk @ sun-java ;)
[19:48] <fta> micahg, ?
[19:49] <micahg> fta: no-upload from the bot for 3 days
[19:49] <micahg> fta: problem with tb31 daily bzr branch
[19:49] <fta> fixed
[19:49]  * micahg still has to fix tb31
[19:49] <BUGabundo> sorry
[19:49] <BUGabundo> power lost :(
[19:49] <fta> something uncommitted :P
[19:49] <BUGabundo> micahg: for me both FF 3.7 and chromium dev are stable enough
[19:49] <micahg> ejat: well, I use sun-java at present
[19:50] <micahg> ejat: but openjdk will probably be the way to go in Lucid
[19:50] <ejat> micahg: ic ..
[19:50] <BUGabundo> micahg: will we be able to use other java browser plugin ?
[19:50] <micahg> BUGabundo: what do you mean?
[19:50] <BUGabundo> openjdk has a browser plugin ?
[19:50] <micahg> BUGabundo: it already exists
[19:50] <micahg> oh, you mean in 3.7?
[19:50] <BUGabundo> well, in lucid
[19:51] <micahg> yeah, a little later in lucid, when we push xul192
[19:51] <BUGabundo> and for ch and FF (all versions)
[19:51] <ejat> micahg n fta : http://bit.ly/4PWQBS <-- your comment on this compare to sun-java ?
[19:51] <micahg> ejat: that's what I was referring to
[19:52] <ejat> owh ..
[19:52] <micahg> sun-java probably won't be fixed
[19:52] <micahg> as it's moving to partner repo I think
[19:52] <ejat> so .. i better get rip the sun-java n go with openjdk :)
[19:52] <micahg> ejat: you can wait for lucid to do that
[19:53] <ejat> micahg: but im now in karmic ;)
[19:53] <micahg> right
[19:53] <micahg> so, you're good with sun java especially if you're running the jaunty version :)
[19:53] <ejat> remove on progress ...
[19:53] <ejat> :)
[19:54]  * BUGabundo hands e-jat mozilla ppa to fetch trunk XUL
[19:54] <ejat> BUGabundo: ??
[19:55] <micahg> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[19:55] <BUGabundo> "just a side note: To use it with Chromium/FF3.6, it needs to be built against xulrunner 1.9.2 Alpha* as that contains headers with the new API"
[19:55] <micahg> right, I'll be uploading a version of that a little later in the lucid cycle
[19:55] <ejat> micahg: but removing sun-java it will take a lots of dependencies ;(
[19:56] <micahg> maybe before ff3.6 is released
[19:56] <micahg> ejat: that will probably be fixed for lucid
[19:56] <micahg> ejat: you can have both installed
[19:56] <ejat> then setting which one as default for the browser?
[19:57] <micahg> ejat: the plugin is a separate package for both, but you can choose with ubufox
[19:57] <ejat> micahg: ff works ok with the sun-java6-plugin .. just curiuos chromium works on certain website...
[19:58] <micahg> ejat: ff36 won't work with that plugin
[19:58] <ejat> owh .. hehe im using ff 3.5
[19:58] <ejat> :)
[19:58] <ejat> ff36 n above ?
[19:58] <micahg> ejat: right
[19:58] <ejat> ouch
[19:58] <micahg> they removed support for OJI plugins (the type sun's is)
[19:59] <micahg> except on mac os x
[19:59] <ejat> ic
[19:59] <[reed]> uh, no... Sun was the first to support the new format
[20:00] <[reed]> just get a recent Sun Java version
[20:00] <micahg> [reed]: then why does my sun java plugin not work in ff3.6?
[20:00] <[reed]> what version?
[20:00] <micahg> 6-16
[20:01] <[reed]> Sun JRE SE6 U10 or higher
[20:01] <[reed]> is what has support for NPAPI
[20:02] <micahg> [reed]: does it need to be compiled against xul192?
[20:02] <[reed]> 6 u16 should work fine
[20:02] <[reed]> no
[20:02] <[reed]> well
[20:02] <[reed]> I dunno how that works
[20:02]  * micahg is checking the source
[20:02] <fta> it's a mess, someone should write a wiki
[20:03] <fta> ...before i need to do my taxes ;)
[20:03] <micahg> fta: it works with 3.5 :)
[20:03] <fta> i use chromium now, and it doesn't work
[20:06] <micahg> [reed]: it doesn't have a build depends
[20:11] <micahg> [reed]: do plugins have maxversion like addons?
[20:13] <BUGabundo> FF 3.7 fails on my lucid install at http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[20:13] <BUGabundo> fta: chromium is working for me
[20:14] <BUGabundo> sun-java6-bin:  Installed: 6-16-1
[20:18] <ejat> icedtea work in ff .. but not in chromium :(
[20:18] <fta> BUGabundo, which java do you have?
[20:19] <BUGabundo> (08:14:07 PM) freenode: sun-java6-bin:  Installed: 6-16-1
[20:19] <BUGabundo> fta: ^^^^^^
[20:19] <BUGabundo> Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16
[20:19] <BUGabundo> File name: libnpjp2.so
[20:19] <BUGabundo> *The next generation Java plug-in for Mozilla browsers.*
[20:20] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL notice the last line, from  about:plugins in chromium
[20:20] <BUGabundo> ahahaha
[20:20] <micahg> hmm
[20:20] <micahg> so why won't it work with ff3.6
[20:20] <BUGabundo> btw [reed] when will FF memorize about:SOMETHING ?? it always forgets about:plugins or _config... chormium works
[20:21] <BUGabundo> micahg: no java plugin in FF 3.7
[20:21] <micahg> BUGabundo: I mean 3.6+
[20:22] <BUGabundo> 3.7>3.6 :D
[20:23] <fta> hm, i have ii sun-java5-jre but rc sun-java6-jre
[20:23] <BUGabundo> fta: $ dpkg -l | grep java | pastebinit  http://paste.ubuntu.com/350077/
[20:23] <BUGabundo> ii  sun-java6-bin                         6-16-1                                            Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (ar
[20:24] <BUGabundo> no java 5 here
[20:49] <ejat> now my chromium dont hv java plugin :( after i install icedtea n remove the sun-java :(
[20:49] <ejat> anything that i can do to reconfigure chromium work with icedtea?
[20:50] <BUGabundo> ejat: check galternatives ?
[20:50] <ejat> BUGabundo: how?
[20:51] <BUGabundo> ejat: you joking ?
[20:51] <ejat> dpkg reconfigure?
[20:51] <BUGabundo> $ galternatives ?
[20:51] <ejat> owh..
[20:52] <ejat> hvnt use it b4 :( .. installing it
[20:55] <ejat> BUGabundo: doesnt hv for chromium ..
[20:55] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL
[20:55] <BUGabundo> FAIL
[20:56] <ejat> mozilla-javaplugin.so already used icedtea
[20:57] <ejat> i think i need to reinstall sun-java6-plugin .. :(
[20:57] <ejat> to make chromium work with javaplugin
[20:58] <BUGabundo> or symlink it
[20:58] <Xfact> I updated my firefox 3.0.16 to 3.5 and it's changed into Shiretoko browser 3.5....is it normal?
[20:58] <ejat> put the symlink to chromium plugin .. thanks BUGabundo ;)
[20:58] <micahg> Xfact: yes, if you're running the daily
[21:00] <Xfact> Mozzila songbird has lots of bugs!
[21:04] <ejat> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=20087
[21:04] <BUGabundo> Xfact: lucky you. I can't even get it to install
[21:04] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy songbird
[21:04] <BUGabundo> W: Unable to locate package songbird
[21:05] <BUGabundo> fta: ^^^^^
[21:05] <BUGabundo> $ grep song /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:05] <BUGabundo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/songbird-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[21:06] <micahg> BUGabundo: I need to fix songbird daily first
[21:07] <BUGabundo> ejat: if Ch aint lookin the proper place, symlinik it to whereever its looking
[21:07] <Xfact> BUGabundo: it's  very easy...no codes nothing...just go to songbird website and download it :D
[21:07]  * BUGabundo hands micahg a wrench
[21:07] <BUGabundo> Xfact: I use archive or PPA packages ONLY
[21:07] <ejat> should be in here /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/ rite?
[21:07] <micahg> BUGabundo: first TB3, then songbird
[21:08] <micahg> TB3 should be done this weekend
[21:08] <Xfact>  BUGabundo: oh if you stick on your position then you have to miss some tastes :\
[21:08] <BUGabundo> ejat: let me look
[21:08] <BUGabundo>  ls /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/
[21:08] <BUGabundo> total 0
[21:08] <BUGabundo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 2009-12-12 01:24 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so*
[21:08] <micahg> Xfact: what bugs does songbird have?
[21:09] <fta> not needed
[21:09] <BUGabundo> micahg: F TB3... won't work. reported the bug, said to open a new one
[21:09] <ejat> fta: ?
[21:09] <BUGabundo> opend a new one, was closed , can't reproduce
[21:09] <BUGabundo> DUH
[21:09] <micahg> BUGabundo: what do you mean?
[21:09] <fta> chromium already looks in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[21:09] <micahg> oh, your gmail thing
[21:09] <micahg> yeah, did you report a new one?
[21:10] <Xfact> micahg: when I am playing southcast radio...after few second it get hanged!
[21:10] <ejat> fta: thanks .. but .. libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so wont work in Ch
[21:10] <Xfact> such a dirty bug!
[21:10] <micahg> Xfact: what version?
[21:11] <ejat> fta: if i used icedtea ,, but it works when i use the sun-java6-plugin
[21:11] <fta> iirc, chromium also scans /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins
[21:11] <Xfact> micahg, version 1.3.0a
[21:11] <ejat> fta: thanks ..
[21:11] <BUGabundo> micahg: (09:09:16 PM) freenode: opend a new one, was closed , can't reproduce
[21:12] <micahg> Xfact: don't run that, that's old, the ppa has 1.5.0a
[21:12] <BUGabundo> micahg: not gmail, but gapps
[21:12] <ejat> java plugin doesnt have link in xulrunner :)
[21:12] <ejat> let me try ..
[21:12] <micahg> which works fine with shoutcast for me
[21:12] <micahg> BUGabundo: file a new bug at bmo I guess
[21:12] <Xfact> ok...that will be bug free I guess?
[21:12] <BUGabundo> micahg: that's what I did :(
[21:12] <micahg> Xfact: not bug free, but it wfm
[21:12] <micahg> BUGabundo: bug #?
[21:12] <BUGabundo> Xfact: NOTHING is bug free
[21:13] <BUGabundo> micahg: not of top of my head
[21:13] <fta> i have:
[21:13] <fta> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2010-01-01 22:00 /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so
[21:13] <fta> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 2010-01-01 22:00 /etc/alternatives/xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
[21:13] <micahg> BUGabundo: email me the bug at my ubuntu.com addy
[21:13] <Xfact> BUGabundo: even your nick name is not bug free!
[21:14] <BUGabundo> micahg: ok
[21:15] <ejat> fta: if using openjdk ?
[21:15] <fta> nope, sun java 6
[21:16] <ejat> is it a must ? previously my Ch working b4 i remove sun java :)
[21:17] <ejat> so Ch cannot use the icedtea ?
[21:17] <Xfact> I am using ppa packages but in synpathic it showing maximum 1.3.0...there no sign of 1.5.0
[21:17] <fta> no idea, i had sun java 5, it didn't work. now with sun java 6, it's all fine
[21:18] <ejat> :( .. i guest need to reinstall the sun-java back
[21:23] <alphaaquilae> hello, i want to establish a password that forbid other users of my computer to read my emails, the probleme with the master password is that any user can read the messages which are on my conputer, any idea?
[21:24] <ejat> fta: can u check if user wanna use icedtea with Ch will work  ?
[21:26] <micahg> alphaaquilae: I think we have a bug for that, let me check
[21:27] <alphaaquilae> micahg: the problem with master password, is that any user can read the emails that are on my HD :s
[21:27] <micahg> alphaaquilae: that's not a TB problem
[21:27] <micahg> what about encrypted home dir?
[21:28] <alphaaquilae> can you explain please
[21:29] <BUGabundo> alphaaquilae: use encfs
[21:29] <BUGabundo> or trucript
[21:45] <BUGabundo> micahg: fta: (09:43:52 PM) yofel: BUGabundo: yeah, but gdb tells me that several threads were launched, bt will give me the backtrace of one
[21:56] <micahg> yofel: bt full?
[21:57] <yofel> micahg: and where should I break? the only way to get a bt right now is to press ctrl-c at some point
[21:57] <BUGabundo> micahg: that's what I said
[21:57] <yofel> and depending on when I press it I get a different bt
[21:57] <BUGabundo> welcome yofel
[21:58] <BUGabundo> yofel: I never kill my bt traces
[21:58] <yofel> since it's not like it's crashing
[21:58] <BUGabundo> I just the app die
[21:58] <BUGabundo> so In the end I just press 'q'
[21:59] <yofel> well yeah, but my issue is:
[21:59] <yofel> firefox starts up, then sits there using 100% CPU and the window doesn't get refreshed
[22:00] <yofel> I can even open the menus, but see only the shadow of it, not the menu itself
[22:00] <BUGabundo> yofel: even in safe mode?
[22:00] <yofel> and this happens even if started with -safe-mode
[22:00] <BUGabundo> weird
[22:00] <yofel> but in the -safe-mode window
[22:00] <BUGabundo> on all versions ?
[22:01] <BUGabundo> or even a new FF profile?
[22:01] <yofel> actually that's the most weird part
[22:01] <yofel> notebook: all versions, netbook: 3.6 and 7, 5 works right now
[22:03] <BUGabundo> ohh fta chormium sub menus lost their text :\
[22:04] <micahg> yofel, you can send a SIGSEGV
[22:05] <yofel> lemme try
[22:12] <yofel> 3.6 backtrace after sigsegv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/350115/ and a part of my earlier strace run (get's called thousands of times while 3.6 uses 100% CPU) http://paste.ubuntu.com/350117/
[22:22] <micahg> yofel: file a bug against firefox-3.5 and tag PPA and I will look tomorrow night
[22:22]  * micahg has to go
[22:22] <yofel> ok
[23:30] <BUGabundo> fta: is there a plugin for Ch or FF to use Desktop CouchDB
[23:41] <mbana> someone asked for the picture of hte bug.  here you go; http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2428/screenshotsa.png
[23:42] <mbana> the bottom is the correct way to quote.  the above isn't.
[23:42] <mbana> the bottom is a plain-text, the top is HTML.
[23:42] <mbana> it only happens when replying as HTML
[23:54] <BUGabundo> mbana: ?!
[23:57] <mbana> BUGabundo: have u observed the difference
[23:57] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:58] <mbana> cool.  the top is replying to a message in HTML format.  it's a bug.  TB 2 quotes like the bottom one, when in HTML mode.