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[18:25] <Sarvatt> hmm, these InputClass things dont look like it has the ability to match based on subsystem vendor/product id's which might be needed for alberto's quirks?
[18:26] <Sarvatt> i'm just looking at the man though, haven't looked at the code yet
[18:39] <bjsnider> it looks like the current way is to use the nv driver
[18:40] <Sarvatt> wonder where that functionality is expected to live with the change, model specific quirks really are needed because some devices are pretty unusable by default but theres no real generic daemon that can handle them now.
[18:40] <tjaalton> moved to the kernel
[18:41] <tjaalton> where there are lots of other quirks
[18:41] <bjsnider> what kind of quirks?
[18:42] <Sarvatt> (was responding to the discussion on the ubuntu-x mailing list, sorry)
[18:42] <Sarvatt> synaptics touchpad
[18:42] <bjsnider> oh, i thought you were talking about the nvidia blob
[18:43] <Sarvatt> I guess g-s-d could be extended to handle it (not that that helps non-gnome)
[18:44] <Sarvatt> ahh shoot gotta run
[20:50] <ripps> Is there anything I can do to help get the new xserver wacom driver working? I know a fair bit about debian packaging, so maybe I can help.
[21:16] <Sarvatt> been looking at it and I dont see how passing the logic for properties that exist only in the x driver can be moved to the kernel.. the kernel quirks are more for things like i8042 needing special reset handling on certain platforms and stuff and it uses the same default initial property values like x/y resolution for all devices of a certain kind..
[21:17] <Sarvatt> quirks changing the physical size through #DEFINE's in synaptics.h in the kernel for certain machines would make the touchpad physically stop working for the button area I would think instead of just scaling the input area to seperate them from the button area?
[21:17] <Sarvatt> like whats needed for dell mini 10v's -- http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/commit/?id=7179a0eb11a842d9d5a420f5702a411b0dc217a2
[21:18] <Sarvatt> gotta be some way to selectively enable things like that based on more info than just the synaptic devices dev/product id because it can be the same as one that doesnt need that
[21:19] <Sarvatt> or else the burden is on the user to fix it post install and that doesnt seem very ubuntu-ish
[21:25] <Sarvatt> i mean we could probably hardcode the quirks straight into xserver-xorg-input-synaptics instead of changing them externally
[23:52] <tjaalton> ripps: I got a reply from the maintainer. brief summary: the new driver "doesn't work"
[23:52] <tjaalton> missing functionality etc
[23:53] <tjaalton> I'll ask for his current version, and upload it to a PPA next week, if possible