| RAOF | Jordan_U: Got a read-only $HOME? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Jordan_U | RAOF: No | 00:00 |
| RAOF | Sure? :) Lucid's been resuming with a readonly home for me on occasion ;) | 00:01 |
| RAOF | ...and a read-only home is one trigger of that behaviour that I know. | 00:01 |
| Jordan_U | RAOF: Yes, I have been working with files in $HOME without problems | 00:02 |
| fullermd | Check ~/.bzr.log, make sure it's owned by you. | 00:02 |
| Jordan_U | fullermd: Ahh, it's owned by root | 00:03 |
| Jordan_U | Probably from trying to use etckeeper with bzr | 00:03 |
| * Jordan_U Thinks etckeeper in Ubuntu should not default to using bzr untill bzr can properly deal with being run with sudo | 00:04 | |
| Jordan_U | fullermd: That fixed it, thank you | 00:05 |
| Noldorin | hi | 00:50 |
| Noldorin | i'm trying to install bzr-git on windows | 00:50 |
| Noldorin | but am having no luck | 00:50 |
| Noldorin | bzr plugins does not list it. | 00:50 |
| Supertanker | Is there any reason I should not access a bzr branch stored on my Samba drive? | 01:11 |
| bob2 | do you have filenames with : in them or mixed caase? | 01:12 |
| Supertanker | Shouldn't be for the first; for my projects, I use all lowercase names | 01:13 |
| Supertanker | Er wait no. | 01:13 |
| Supertanker | I don't use all lowrcase names | 01:13 |
| Supertanker | But the Samba share is hosted on a Liknux box and I don't have files with the same names but different cases in the same directory | 01:13 |
| Supertanker | (I do jhave a login.php in one directory and Login.php in another...) | 01:13 |
| Supertanker | Yay, bzr for windows finally downloaded | 01:46 |
| Noldorin | hi | 01:58 |
| Noldorin | i'm trying to use bzr dpush to push to a GIT repo, but am having the following problem: | 01:58 |
| Noldorin | C:\Users\Alex\Documents\Visual Studio 2010\Projects\IRC.NET\devel>bzr dpush git+ | 01:58 |
| Noldorin | ssh://git@github.com/Noldorin/IRC.NET.git | 01:58 |
| Noldorin | bzr: ERROR: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified | 01:58 |
| Noldorin | hi | 03:10 |
| Noldorin | i'm trying to dpush using bzr-git | 03:11 |
| Noldorin | getting the following error though: | 03:11 |
| Noldorin | http://pastebin.com/m78e07c36 | 03:11 |
| fullermd | As a guess, version mismatch. | 03:34 |
| fullermd | That's a reasonably recent bzr-git, and a several version back bzr. | 03:35 |
| GuyFromHell | anyone on gentoo know where olive-gtk is hiding? | 05:15 |
| Supertanker | What is this "treeless branches" feature I keep reading about, and why is it important? | 05:16 |
| fullermd | I dunno what you keep reading about, but a branch may or may not have a tree, depending on... well, whether it has a tree. | 05:18 |
| mneptok | GuyFromHell: https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr-gentoo-overlay/ | 05:18 |
| mneptok | GuyFromHell: bzr-gtk is part of that overlay | 05:19 |
| GuyFromHell | mneptok, oo, shiny. I could not find it anywhere | 05:19 |
| GuyFromHell | thank you | 05:19 |
| mneptok | np np | 05:19 |
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| Supertanker | fullermd, what exactly is "tree" referring to? | 05:27 |
| fullermd | The working tree, where you edit and read and touch and caress-by-the-fireside your files. | 05:29 |
| Supertanker | Ah, okay | 05:29 |
| * SamB_XP can't help but remember something about some windows pack-in called "wang" ... | 05:31 | |
| fullermd | If you have a branch with a [colocated] tree, you can get rid of the tree with 'bzr remove-tree', and you can get it back with 'bzr checkout' | 05:31 |
| fullermd | (and some args to reconfigure also, I believe) | 05:32 |
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| pattern | i just did a "bzr add myfile", but then noticed that i'd misspelled the filename | 08:31 |
| pattern | i haven't committed yet, so is there some way to "unadd" the file? | 08:31 |
| fullermd | Well, if you handed it a filename that doesn't exist, it shouldn't have done anything... | 08:31 |
| pattern | it does exist | 08:32 |
| pattern | but there's a misspelling in the filename | 08:32 |
| pattern | so i need to rename the filename | 08:32 |
| pattern | and "unadd" it from bzr, then add it again with the right name | 08:32 |
| pattern | then commit | 08:32 |
| pattern | i just don't know how to "unadd" it | 08:32 |
| fullermd | Why unadd/readd, instead of just 'bzr mv'ing? | 08:32 |
| fullermd | Anyway, you'd use 'rm' to unadd. | 08:32 |
| pattern | i tried rm and it complained about not being able to safely remove the file | 08:33 |
| * fullermd stabbies the !@&$ DWIM crap in there. | 08:33 | |
| fullermd | rm --keep | 08:33 |
| fullermd | (and then add a bzr alias for it so it stops trying to outsmart you ever afreakingain :p) | 08:33 |
| pattern | thanks, fullermd | 08:34 |
| Noldorin | hello | 11:46 |
| Noldorin | i'm trying to use bzr-git to push a bzr branch to a git repo | 11:47 |
| Noldorin | however, i'm geting some horrible errors... | 11:47 |
| Noldorin | bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AttributeError: 'InterRepository' object has no attribute | 11:47 |
| Noldorin | 'fetch_objects' | 11:47 |
| Noldorin | the full log is here: http://pastebin.com/m78e07c36 | 11:47 |
| bob2 | are you using dulwich,bzr-git and bzr trunk? | 11:48 |
| Noldorin | bob2: indeed i am | 11:48 |
| Noldorin | i believe everything is installed correctly, though i had some trouble yesterday... | 11:48 |
| fullermd | Not on the latter you aren't. | 11:49 |
| fullermd | bzr 1.17 on python 2.5.2 (win32) | 11:49 |
| Noldorin | oh, that's true | 11:49 |
| Noldorin | odd | 11:49 |
| Noldorin | i'm sure i had bzr 2.0 installed | 11:49 |
| bob2 | you may well need actual bzr bzr | 11:50 |
| Noldorin | bob2: how do you mean? | 11:52 |
| bob2 | as in bzr trunk | 11:52 |
| Noldorin | ah right | 11:52 |
| Noldorin | hmm | 11:53 |
| Noldorin | brb, restarting | 11:53 |
| jelmer | fullermd: What's the status of DWIM? | 12:15 |
| fullermd | vila landed it a few weeks ago. | 12:15 |
| maxb | Is there anything along the lines of architecture documentation for Bazaar? e.g. anything that helps understanding the internals? | 14:08 |
| jml | maxb, maybe in the HACKING guide or in the developer doc section | 14:30 |
| jml | maxb, in the tree, that is. | 14:31 |
| jml | maxb, I've mostly got a sense of things from looking at commands in bzrlib/builtins.py and drilling down. | 14:31 |
| SabreWolfy | Using Ubuntu Karmic and trying to install bzr-explorer, but conflicts with qbzr version preventing this; latest qbzr version in Karmic is 0.14; bzr-explorer needs 0.17 | 16:32 |
| SabreWolfy | any suggestions ? | 16:39 |
| SabreWolfy | Adding QBZR PPA solved | 16:43 |
| Noldorin | hi | 16:52 |
| Noldorin | i hqave bzr 2.0 installed | 16:52 |
| Noldorin | but for some reason, when i run bzr from the command line, it uses version 1.17 | 16:52 |
| Noldorin | looks like i have bzr 1.17 in my path somewhere, but i can't figure out where :S | 16:52 |
| Noldorin | anyone? | 17:04 |
| verterok | Noldorin: 'bzr version' should show the path to the executable and bzrlib | 17:08 |
| Noldorin | hmm ok | 17:08 |
| verterok | Noldorin: ops, only the bzrlib path | 17:08 |
| Noldorin | verterok: c:\Python25\lib\site-packages\bzrlib | 17:09 |
| Noldorin | yeah | 17:09 |
| Noldorin | surely i want the one on program files though? | 17:10 |
| Noldorin | if i do... | 17:10 |
| Noldorin | "C:\Program Files\Bazaar\bzr.exe" version | 17:10 |
| Noldorin | i get v 2.0.3 | 17:10 |
| * Noldorin gets out procmon | 17:11 | |
| verterok | Noldorin: check in c:\Python25\Scripts | 17:13 |
| Noldorin | ok | 17:13 |
| * verterok goes to the grocery store, brb | 17:13 | |
| Noldorin | verterok: seems to be a bzr in there | 17:13 |
| Noldorin | should i remove it? | 17:13 |
| Noldorin | ah, removing it does the trick :) | 17:14 |
| Noldorin | thanks | 17:14 |
| Noldorin | not bzr says it can't find dulwich :S | 17:17 |
| Noldorin | yet it's in the python path | 17:17 |
| verterok | Noldorin: if you'r using the standalone bzr.exe I think you need to install plugins in a different place as bzr.exe use it's own python interepreter | 17:44 |
| Noldorin | verterok: yeah, so it seems | 17:44 |
| Noldorin | any idea what i need to do with dulwich? | 17:45 |
| Noldorin | since i want the bzr binary to use it | 17:45 |
| Noldorin | well, bzr-git actually | 17:45 |
| Noldorin | verterok: i've pasted the git and dulwich folders into C:\Program Files\Bazaar\plugins | 17:51 |
| Noldorin | but it's not recognising dulwich still | 17:51 |
| Noldorin | No module named dulwich.errors | 17:51 |
| Noldorin | Unable to load plugin u'dulwich' from u'C:/Program Files/Bazaar/plugins' | 17:51 |
| Noldorin | bzr: ERROR: Unable to import library "dulwich": bzr-git: Please install dulwich, | 17:51 |
| Noldorin | https://launchpad.net/dulwich | 17:51 |
| fullermd | dulwich isn't a bzr plugin, it's a python module/library/whatevertheycallit. | 17:52 |
| fullermd | I don't think you can use such things with the prebuilt bzr.exe; you'd have to use the python version. | 17:53 |
| Noldorin | fullermd: yeah, that's what i was thinking | 17:53 |
| fullermd | (Or I could be full of bullcaca; I don't really know windows) | 17:53 |
| Noldorin | was wondering why bzr-git was looking for it in plugins there | 17:53 |
| Noldorin | heh | 17:53 |
| Noldorin | fullermd: i think you may well be rigtht - i may need the python version | 17:53 |
| Noldorin | fullermd: hrm, can't i just edit the PYTHONPATH for bzr.exe somehow? | 17:54 |
| Noldorin | http://osdir.com/ml/bazaar/2009-11/msg00361.html | 17:54 |
| fullermd | I'm not sure you can; bzr.exe bundles it all up internally. | 17:55 |
| Noldorin | hrm | 17:55 |
| Noldorin | fullermd: so you recommend i just set up the python version of bzr 2.0, etc.? will it happily coexist along side the exe version? | 17:57 |
| fullermd | I have no idea. It's been 13 years since I had a system running Windows. | 17:57 |
| Noldorin | hah ok | 17:57 |
| fullermd | I'd tend to think having both would be sticky. | 17:58 |
| fullermd | But it may not be. I'm well into "guessing" territory there. | 17:58 |
| Noldorin | mm, as am i | 17:59 |
| Noldorin | fullermd: if i only have either in my PATH, then things might be ok | 18:00 |
| Noldorin | brb | 18:01 |
| Guest46284 | hi. Is there a way of finding out what "bzr update" will do without actually running it | 18:11 |
| Noldorin | hello. do i need the python installation of bzr to run bzr-git/dullwich? | 18:58 |
| maxb | Is Bundle Buggy genuinely still alive, or does HACKING.txt lie? | 19:46 |
| pattern | i have a question regarding how best to do something with bzr... | 20:00 |
| pattern | it's a little long, though... so rather than flooding the channel, i've pasted the question here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/161426/ | 20:01 |
| gutworth | pattern: you can just commit specific files | 20:07 |
| gutworth | or use a makefile which will only rebuild things if there is a change | 20:08 |
| gutworth | or make an ignored file where you list files to ignore | 20:08 |
| pattern | well, i could use a makefile that ignores files that aren't changed... however, LaTeX will still read them all to create the new pdf... so it doesn't really help | 20:09 |
| pattern | the only way to have those files not read by LaTeX is either to comment out the code that includes them, or to delete that code | 20:11 |
| gutworth | commit specific files then | 20:11 |
| pattern | i do commit each individual file in bzr | 20:12 |
| pattern | but the problem is more with the files that have the code that includes the individual files | 20:12 |
| pattern | they're like #include directives in c | 20:13 |
| pattern | and i have those lines commented out while i'm working | 20:13 |
| pattern | each of those include directives is just \include{foo}, where "foo" is the filename | 20:14 |
| pattern | so it's not like the file that has these include directives actually contains the whole file it's "including" | 20:14 |
| pattern | it's just a direction to the compiler to include the file | 20:14 |
| pattern | the contents of those files are completely seperate from the file they're included in | 20:15 |
| pattern | and both the file that's doing the inclusion and the included file are seperately versioned in bzr | 20:15 |
| gutworth | well, that's tricky | 20:16 |
| pattern | yep :) | 20:16 |
| gutworth | there must be some way to avoid rebuilding deps if they're not changed | 20:16 |
| pattern | that's why i come to the experts :) | 20:16 |
| pattern | i'm pretty sure there's no way to avoid rebuilding the files that haven't changed other than either commenting out or deleting the include directives | 20:18 |
| pattern | actually.. there might be another way | 20:21 |
| pattern | i think LaTeX has some control flow commands, which i haven't been using yet | 20:22 |
| pattern | but i should look in to them | 20:22 |
| pattern | that way it could maybe skip a part of the file if a variable is set | 20:22 |
| pattern | that would be idea | 20:22 |
| pattern | ideal | 20:22 |
| pattern | then the variable could be set from the makefile | 20:23 |
| pattern | and make could be told to set this variable from the command line | 20:23 |
| pattern | that would be perfect | 20:23 |
| pattern | hmm... but now that i think about it... it might not solve the problem after all | 20:25 |
| pattern | as, say i bracketed off files 1-95 as being compiled or not depending on a variable... and check that version of the include file in while i worked on files 95-100 | 20:26 |
| pattern | at some point i'll want to bracket off files 1-100 while i work on files 100-105 instead | 20:27 |
| pattern | and that will entail rewriting the code in the include file | 20:27 |
| pattern | unless maybe i think of some way to reduce the granularity such that i can somehow include each individual file or not, from the command line | 20:28 |
| Noldorin | hi. do i need the python installation of bzr to get bzr-git/dulwich to work on windows? | 20:28 |
| pattern | anyway... this gives me some leads... | 20:28 |
| pattern | thanks for your help, gutworth! | 20:28 |
| Noldorin | getting the following error at present: http://pastebin.com/m3a6a2e4e | 20:29 |
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| maxb | How alive/dead is the BundleBuggy project now that bzr itself no longer uses it? | 21:13 |
| Noldorin | >hi. do i need the python installation of bzr to get bzr-git/dulwich to work on windows? | 21:15 |
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| Noldorin | bob2: ping? | 22:04 |
| bob2 | I don't have an answer | 22:04 |
| bob2 | I was just wondering if you'd asked on the list | 22:04 |
| bob2 | lots of people are on holidays atm so might not see discussion on irc | 22:05 |
| Noldorin | yeah, good point | 22:05 |
| Noldorin | probably worth a shot | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | bob2: it's a pain to set some of this beta stuff up when you don't know much about python (as i don't)... | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | it seems it's just dulwich that's causing the problem | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | i want bzr.exe to recognise it in the path | 22:06 |
| Noldorin | hrm | 22:07 |
| pattern | gutworth: i finally figured out a solution for my problem... what i'll do is keep all the include directives uncommented in files A and B, and then have my makefile run them through a filter that will comment out what i need and save the output under a new name, say A2 and B2 | 22:13 |
| pattern | A and B will be versioned, but A2 and B2 will not | 22:13 |
| pattern | and A2 and B2 will be the files that latex uses to compile | 22:13 |
| pattern | of course, what the script run by the makefile comments out will depend on what options i pass to make on the command line | 22:14 |
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