[00:11] <Ahmuck-Jr> HedgeMage: css?  couldn't the top blocks be "streached" with % of width or em ?
[00:11] <HedgeMage> Ahmuck-Jr: I'm not talking about those blocks...I'm talking about the logo and the background graphics.
[00:12] <HedgeMage> Ahmuck-Jr: The only way to make them scale and not be ugly is to use SVG, which crashes IE
[00:13] <Ahmuck-Jr> shouldn't you still be supporting ie6 ?
[00:14] <alkisg> HedgeMage: Couldn't the background one be a background image with repeatx/y and the edubuntu logo a foreground image?
[00:14] <Ahmuck-Jr> hrm, it's not about moving on, as i just shipped 4 computers with windows 2000 and ie6
[00:14] <HedgeMage> Define supporting.  I'm not going to design for ie6 because it is so limited, but I'll make sure things degrade reasonably.
[00:14] <Ahmuck-Jr> highvolt1ge: is in africa?
[00:15] <stgraber> Ahmuck-Jr: Cape Town (South Africa)
[00:15] <HedgeMage> IOW, I'm not going to not do something just because it won't work in IE6, but I'll make sure the site is still usable for IE6 (it just may not be as pretty, or have as many ui goodies)
[00:19] <HedgeMage> alkisg: With very few exceptions, tiled backgrounds look awful.  I am making enough background graphic that larger displays will have something nice to see, but only up to a point of course (we don't want to make the graphic too big)
[00:20] <Ahmuck-Jr> i have a software question.  my grand father is 98 and still with a good mind.  watching and listening to other residents in the rest home, i can see that many are just bored.  i've been thinking about some msi wind all in ones with some "brain games"
[00:21] <Ahmuck-Jr> there are however challenges with tech in this area
[00:24] <Ahmuck-Jr> i think this could be overcome with touch screens.  large icons, and software activities that is interactive to touch.  tjhere is also challenges in sight and sound
[00:24] <Ahmuck-Jr> dexterity
[00:24] <Ahmuck-Jr> i've been looking at some software in the "brain game" area that might work
[00:25] <Ahmuck-Jr> but it seems there is a limited amount.  while education is not noramlly viewed from the elder side, there is still a need.  moreover, schools do have students who would also have these limitations.  could we get a page where we can start categorizing gpl free and non-free software for edubuntu?
[00:26] <HedgeMage> I don't see why not
[00:27] <HedgeMage> Ahmuck-Jr: you might also want to check out #frogandowl -- one of the things that project will be doing after the ramp-up will be to offer a catalogue of apps related to education, what they run on, what they are good for, with links to related lesson or program plans, etc.
[00:27] <HedgeMage> Ahmuck-Jr: frog and owl is a distro-neutral open source and open content in education project.
[00:35] <Ahmuck-Jr> one of the issues with elderly is "shaking", hence would need larger icons
[00:35] <Ahmuck-Jr> eyesight
[00:51]  * HedgeMage nods
[00:51] <HedgeMage> I'll be in and out, I'm cooking dinner, but still following the convo
[01:04] <Ahmuck-Jr> what's cooking?  /me had my yearly ration of black eyed peas today for new years ...
[01:14] <HedgeMage> Italian beef sandwiches
[04:32] <HedgeMage> Hi, ogra
[04:41]  * HedgeMage wonders if anyone is awake in here
[04:47] <HedgeMage> http://imagebin.ca/view/KgCXBt.html  <-- a little tweaking if anyone is interested
[04:55] <Ahmuck-Jr> .
[07:19]  * HedgeMage peeks in
[21:02] <dibblego> why edubuntu over ubuntu for a child's machine?
[21:04] <alkisg> For the programs included
[21:04] <Ahmuck> dibblego: it's got children learning programs on it
[21:04] <dibblego> can't I just install those in ubuntu?
[21:05] <alkisg> Sure, you can also install edubuntu-desktop if you like... it's just packages
[21:05] <dibblego> ok thanks