=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [02:02] trifon: You can always ask questions. I may or may not answer :) [02:03] erichammond: :) [02:04] my question is about ubuntu and EC2 [02:05] as far as i understand at this moment EC2 images with Ubuntu allows users to get offical suport from Canonical [02:19] trifon: I've seen stuff on Canonical's site that says you can pay them for support, yes. [02:20] erichammond: ok. thank's for the reposonse. [02:20] i was with the impression that you have worked together with Canonical on this. [02:48] trifon: I supported Canonical in the development of the official Ubuntu AMIs. [02:49] I occasionally provide direct support to companies who are using Ubuntu on EC2, but it is not under the auspices of Canonical. [02:49] I'm not familiar with Canonical's commercial support services except for what I've read on their web site. [02:49] erichammond: ok. i see. thank's for the repsonses [02:50] erichammond: i have asked as i'm developer of open source ERP application. ADempiere. [02:51] and i want to create AMI with ADempiere on official Ubunut suported image [02:51] but i think that i should contact Canonical if i want to make this official. [02:52] trifon: You want Canonical to support your AMI? [02:53] erichammond: i just want to make my AMI be officaly suported. [02:53] i mean users of ERP usualy want to be sure that in case of issue there will be someone to suport them. [02:54] trifon: I doubt any company is going to officially support an AMI that they do not build themselves. [02:54] so i will need suport for the OS. I preffer Ubuntu so far. [02:54] erichammond: right. [02:54] which means that both companies must participate in the build proces. [02:55] Canonical does support "Ubuntu" officially, so if the problems relate to Ubuntu, then I imagine Canonical will support that aspect of it no matter who's AMI it's running. [02:55] Does Canonical currently support ADempiere outside of EC2 at this point? [02:55] not. [02:56] ADempiere even do not have ubunut package now :( [02:56] I see. [02:56] i'm not sure if Canonical can suport any ERP system. [02:57] i mean ERP suport usuly is done by ERP vendor. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [18:43] hello everyone [18:44] i'm trying to login into Fedora Instance AMI: ami-0a48637e [18:44] this AMI is mentioned in the ec2ubuntu-build-ami script [18:44] what is the user? [18:44] i'm trying with root. [21:05] i m new to ec2 . Is there a way to extend a public 64 bit ubuntu ami : add python packages .... need to have 100 instances running the same python application [22:11] develop: sure you can add any package you need. [22:12] trifon: You may want to review the tutorial in Amazon's Getting Started Guide: http://ec2gsg.notlong.com [22:13] erichammond: hello and thank you! [22:13] thnks [22:13] develop: What AMI id are you using? [22:14] none yet was thinking of ami-00866b69 [22:15] just need a 64 bit ubuntu add python and libs + svn and rebundle [22:16] develop: I don't recommend using images from the "testing" bucket. [22:16] Those are built automatically and have not been tested. [22:16] which one would you recommend? [22:16] ...unless you're volunteering to do the testing, I suppose. [22:17] Any reason you don't want to use Karmic (the latest Ubuntu release)? [22:17] no [22:18] Then I'd recommend using the latest published Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic. I list the AMI ids in the second table on http://alestic.com [22:19] Now back to your original question. [22:19] If all you want to do is install a few software packages, then it's not necessary to rebundle and create your own AMI. [22:20] so the ami's must be ebs? [22:20] You can configure the Ubuntu AMIs on first boot with a user-data script as described here: http://alestic.com/2009/06/ec2-user-data-scripts [22:20] so i can start and stop [22:20] k [22:20] Then, when Canonical publishes an updated Karmic AMI, you can simply switch the AMI id you are using, keep the same user-data script, and you're off and running again without having to go through the painful AMI bundling and testing process. [22:22] If you want to be able to stop/start, EBS boot AMIs are also fine. [22:22] just need a stop /start ami for the main worker having a db2 instance [22:23] Canonical does not yet publish EBS boot AMIs (bug 492048) [22:23] Launchpad bug 492048 in ubuntu "Create "EBS boot" AMIs for Amazon EC2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/492048 [22:23] On Monday, I will be publishing an article on how to build EBS boot AMIs using Ubuntu vmbuilder. [22:24] erichammond: sounds interesting. [22:24] i use KVM on my office servers. [22:24] and vmbuilder of course :) [22:24] Drop me a note if you are willing to test the instructions and provide feedback: http://anvilon.com/contact [22:24] erichammond: sure. count me in. [22:26] That said, I don't believe in putting your database and other application data on the EBS boot volume. [22:26] I like keeping the operating system and software on separate volumes from the data as each has a different lifecycle. [22:27] It's a bit more complicated to set things up this way, but I like the flexibility. [22:27] snet message. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [22:56] erichammond: one really stupid question :( [22:56] # --user ID - Defaults to $AWS_USER_ID [22:56] # --access-key ID - Defaults to $AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID [22:56] # --secret-key ID - Defaults to $AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY_ID [22:56] how to get value of this environment variables? [22:58] trifon: http://alestic.com/2009/11/ec2-credentials [22:58] thank's i have seen this article but didn't payid attentions so far. [22:59] The topic will keep coming back to haunt you. [23:02] seems like i can only login as ubuntu to ami-ab15f6c2 [23:28] erichammond: i have read the article. very good article! [23:29] develop: on ubuntu you can't login with root by default. [23:29] Ubuntu MAIs are coming with ubuntu user. [23:38] root pwd is [23:43] develop: this is the trick... no root pass. [23:43] password login is disabled. [23:43] you must connect with: ssh -i key-pair ubuntu@ip [23:49] go it thnks [23:56] develop: http://alestic.com/2009/04/ubuntu-ec2-sudo-ssh-rsync