[02:02] <erichammond> trifon: You can always ask questions.  I may or may not answer :)
[02:03] <trifon> erichammond: :)
[02:04] <trifon> my question is about ubuntu and EC2
[02:05] <trifon> as far as i understand at this moment EC2 images with Ubuntu allows users to get offical suport from Canonical
[02:19] <erichammond> trifon: I've seen stuff on Canonical's site that says you can pay them for support, yes.
[02:20] <trifon> erichammond: ok. thank's for the reposonse.
[02:20] <trifon> i was with the impression that you have worked together with Canonical on this.
[02:48] <erichammond> trifon: I supported Canonical in the development of the official Ubuntu AMIs.
[02:49] <erichammond> I occasionally provide direct support to companies who are using Ubuntu on EC2, but it is not under the auspices of Canonical.
[02:49] <erichammond> I'm not familiar with Canonical's commercial support services except for what I've read on their web site.
[02:49] <trifon> erichammond: ok. i see. thank's for the repsonses
[02:50] <trifon> erichammond: i have asked as i'm developer of open source ERP application. ADempiere.
[02:51] <trifon> and i want to create AMI with ADempiere on official Ubunut suported image
[02:51] <trifon> but i think that i should contact Canonical if i want to make this official.
[02:52] <erichammond> trifon: You want Canonical to support your AMI?
[02:53] <trifon> erichammond: i just want to make my AMI be officaly suported.
[02:53] <trifon> i mean users of ERP usualy want to be sure that in case of issue there will be someone to suport them.
[02:54] <erichammond> trifon: I doubt any company is going to officially support an AMI that they do not build themselves.
[02:54] <trifon> so i will need suport for the OS. I preffer Ubuntu so far.
[02:54] <trifon> erichammond: right.
[02:54] <trifon> which means that both companies must participate in the build proces.
[02:55] <erichammond> Canonical does support "Ubuntu" officially, so if the problems relate to Ubuntu, then I imagine Canonical will support that aspect of it no matter who's AMI it's running.
[02:55] <erichammond> Does Canonical currently support ADempiere outside of EC2 at this point?
[02:55] <trifon> not.
[02:56] <trifon> ADempiere even do not have ubunut package now :(
[02:56] <erichammond> I see.
[02:56] <trifon> i'm not sure if Canonical can suport any ERP system.
[02:57] <trifon> i mean ERP suport usuly is done by ERP vendor.
[18:43] <trifon> hello everyone
[18:44] <trifon> i'm trying to login into Fedora Instance AMI: ami-0a48637e
[18:44] <trifon> this AMI is mentioned in the ec2ubuntu-build-ami script
[18:44] <trifon> what is the user?
[18:44] <trifon> i'm trying with root.
[21:05] <develop> i m new to ec2 . Is there a way to extend a public 64 bit ubuntu ami : add python packages .... need to have 100 instances running the same python application
[22:11] <trifon> develop: sure you can add any package you need.
[22:12] <erichammond> trifon: You may want to review the tutorial in Amazon's Getting Started Guide: http://ec2gsg.notlong.com
[22:13] <trifon> erichammond: hello and thank you!
[22:13] <develop> thnks
[22:13] <erichammond> develop: What AMI id are you using?
[22:14] <develop> none yet was thinking of ami-00866b69
[22:15] <develop> just need a 64 bit ubuntu add python and libs + svn and rebundle
[22:16] <erichammond> develop: I don't recommend using images from the "testing" bucket.
[22:16] <erichammond> Those are built automatically and have not been tested.
[22:16] <develop> which one would you recommend?
[22:16] <erichammond> ...unless you're volunteering to do the testing, I suppose.
[22:17] <erichammond> Any reason you don't want to use Karmic (the latest Ubuntu release)?
[22:17] <develop> no
[22:18] <erichammond> Then I'd recommend using the latest published Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic.  I list the AMI ids in the second table on http://alestic.com
[22:19] <erichammond> Now back to your original question.
[22:19] <erichammond> If all you want to do is install a few software packages, then it's not necessary to rebundle and create your own AMI.
[22:20] <develop> so the ami's must be ebs?
[22:20] <erichammond> You can configure the Ubuntu AMIs on first boot with a user-data script as described here: http://alestic.com/2009/06/ec2-user-data-scripts
[22:20] <develop> so i can start and stop
[22:20] <develop> k
[22:20] <erichammond> Then, when Canonical publishes an updated Karmic AMI, you can simply switch the AMI id you are using, keep the same user-data script, and you're off and running again without having to go through the painful AMI bundling and testing process.
[22:22] <erichammond> If you want to be able to stop/start, EBS boot AMIs are also fine.
[22:22] <develop> just need a stop /start ami for the main worker having a db2 instance
[22:23] <erichammond> Canonical does not yet publish EBS boot AMIs (bug 492048)
[22:23] <erichammond> On Monday, I will be publishing an article on how to build EBS boot AMIs using Ubuntu vmbuilder.
[22:24] <trifon> erichammond: sounds interesting.
[22:24] <trifon> i use KVM on my office servers.
[22:24] <trifon> and vmbuilder of course :)
[22:24] <erichammond> Drop me a note if you are willing to test the instructions and provide feedback: http://anvilon.com/contact
[22:24] <trifon> erichammond: sure. count me in.
[22:26] <erichammond> That said, I don't believe in putting your database and other application data on the EBS boot volume.
[22:26] <erichammond> I like keeping the operating system and software on separate volumes from the data as each has a different lifecycle.
[22:27] <erichammond> It's a bit more complicated to set things up this way, but I like the flexibility.
[22:27] <trifon> snet message.
[22:56] <trifon> erichammond: one really stupid question :(
[22:56] <trifon> #   --user ID             - Defaults to $AWS_USER_ID
[22:56] <trifon> #   --access-key ID       - Defaults to $AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID
[22:56] <trifon> #   --secret-key ID       - Defaults to $AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY_ID
[22:56] <trifon> how to get value of this environment variables?
[22:58] <erichammond> trifon: http://alestic.com/2009/11/ec2-credentials
[22:58] <trifon> thank's i have seen this article but didn't payid attentions so far.
[22:59] <erichammond> The topic will keep coming back to haunt you.
[23:02] <develop> seems like i can only login as ubuntu to ami-ab15f6c2
[23:28] <trifon> erichammond: i have read the article. very good article!
[23:29] <trifon> develop: on ubuntu you can't login with root by default.
[23:29] <trifon> Ubuntu MAIs are coming with ubuntu user.
[23:38] <develop> root pwd is
[23:43] <trifon> develop: this is the trick... no root pass.
[23:43] <trifon> password login is disabled.
[23:43] <trifon> you must connect with: ssh -i key-pair ubuntu@ip
[23:49] <develop> go it thnks
[23:56] <erichammond> develop: http://alestic.com/2009/04/ubuntu-ec2-sudo-ssh-rsync