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crimsunoh jeez, 46 different VIA codecs00:04
crimsunwell, that'll keep me occupied while I wait for VTK to build00:04
crimsun30% through the build!01:28
geserin 90min? that's about 3h for the remaining 70% :(01:33
crimsungeser: yep. And, there's clearly something wrong with this CMake progress01:34
sebnergeser: crimsun hhiuhu01:34
crimsunit has been at 100% for five minutes on another box building Java bindings :-)01:34
geserHi sebner , still awake?01:34
sebnergeser: yeah I'm at a friends house and feeling like doing packaging work ^^01:35
gesersebner: training a future MOTU? :)01:39
sebnergeser: nah, haXX0ring packages for Debian xD01:40
sebnergeser: working through maaaaany files for creating an acceptable copyright :\01:40
crimsunman, I've cycled twice through the PID space just for docs generation01:43
crimsunI think I'm going to escape back to the simpler world of kernel hacking01:44
bjsniderthere's no formatting requirement in a debian/rules file that would require 7 consecutive tabs on a line is there?02:58
RAOFbjsnider: No.02:59
bjsnideri swear i found it like this02:59
machinaI was working on packaging a new upstream version of xsensors for ubuntu, but chose instead to try and get the new upstream in debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=44653003:39
ubottuDebian bug 446530 in xsensors "xsensors: New upstream version (0.60) available" [Wishlist,Open]03:39
machinaunfortunately the debian maintainer is not very responsive03:39
machinaShould I wait a couple weeks, or should I go and try and get a new version in ubuntu?03:39
bjsniderwhat do you need him for?03:40
machinaI was told on IRC that having a newer version than debian would cause sync problems..03:40
bjsnideroh, i see.  you want to push the latst upstream code into debian. i thought you meant you wanted to pull the latest in debian into ubuntu03:42
machinayeah, I also made the "debian directory" needed for the new version, but met a few stumbling blocks before I could finalize the debian/ubuntu package..03:44
bjsniderlike dependencies and such03:45
machinaI used most of the dependencies from previous versions, but I did notice another bug report about that.. my problem was mostly about the debian/copyright file (it's at the bottom of the bug report)03:46
ScottKParticularly for Lucid/Squeeze where we are synchronizing release freeze it'd be good to keep the same version in Ubuntu and Debian.03:47
machinaIs that the cadence thing shuttleworth was talking about earlier? I couldn't find any updates on it.03:48
machinaSo would that mean it's best just to patch the older version of xsensors?03:49
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machinaI guess I'll just push the new upstream to ubuntu04:11
ScottKmachina: It may be better to do that, but your efforts to get Debian updated are good too.04:36
machinacool, thanks for the advice04:38
w3asalwhat exactly happens to the sync when there's a newer version in ubuntu than debian?04:59
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ScottKw3asal: Nothing until Debian gets a newer version.05:35
w3asalso it's just good policy to try to push the new version into debian, but not necessarily bad for ubuntu if it doesn't happen?05:36
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crimsunsorry, unimplemented: inlining failed in call to '(!#$*': redefined extern inline functions are not considered for inlining07:18
crimsunsigh, there goes that pile. Thanks, gcc-4.4 (and gcc-snapshot).07:18
foxbuntubjsnider, ping07:21
foxbuntubjsnider, thought I would let you know there is a bug in the nvidia packages in the in vdpau testing ppa07:22
foxbuntubjsnider, they are pointing to a depends on libvdpau, but the package name is really libvdpau107:23
crimsunfoxbuntu: that isn't a bug.07:24
crimsun$ apt-cache show libvdpau1|grep ^Pro07:24
crimsunProvides: libvdpau07:24
foxbuntucrimsun, The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:25
foxbuntu  nvidia-glx-190: Depends: libvdpau07:25
foxbuntuE: Broken packages07:25
crimsunfoxbuntu: and?07:27
crimsunas long as you have libvdpau1 installed, your package manager shouldn't whine07:27
foxbuntucrimsun, yes, but if you dont, it wont install the drivers07:28
foxbuntucrimsun, so it is a bug07:28
foxbuntucrimsun, the proper depends is libvdpau1 or better would be not at all, as libvdpau1 is not a required piece to the nvidia drivers07:29
crimsunfoxbuntu: I agree that it should be a Recommends, not a Depends07:30
crimsunfoxbuntu: however, I disagree that it is a bug07:30
foxbuntucrimsun, how could it not be?07:30
foxbuntucrimsun, I am not motu, but I am trying to understand07:30
crimsunI just tried, and apt-get and aptitude both worked correctly07:30
foxbuntucrimsun, from that ppa?07:31
crimsunyes07:31
foxbuntucrimsun, without libvdpau1 already installed?07:31
crimsunnow, if you manually used dpkg -i but did *not* include libvdpau1...deb, that still isn't a bug. That's your own fault.07:31
crimsunfoxbuntu: yes, from within a schroot.07:31
foxbuntucrimsun, I was able to do the same once, but after attempting to upgrade to another build of libvdpau and that package it failed on the upgrade07:32
crimsunwell, certainly it could be made better with libvdpau1 | libvdpau07:33
foxbuntucrimsun, agreed on that point07:34
happyaronsorry if it's not suitable to ask here, does CC by-sa 2.5 compatible with LGPLv3?07:43
superm1foxbuntu, crimsun no libvdpau shouldnt be a depends or recommends08:03
superm1that's the bug08:03
superm1it does nothing for the nvidia driver itself08:03
superm1it's the applications that should be depending on libvdpau1 (by build-depending on libvdpau-dev and shlibs resolving libvdpau1)08:03
yuanyeleleHi! Why don't we have a free version of mplayer, with patented codecs in a separate package?08:40
martosshey folks, i have two packages to review. I uploaded them to revu but they don't show up in revu.11:10
surfzoiddirecthex: Hi, in the mono rule file you use autoreconf -i -f -s, the symlinks switch is really important, or it will be same to use libtool file of mono source rather link them to the system one ?11:16
cornucopicyesterday, I used 'debuild -sa -S' to build my signed source package. What is the 'a' switch for?12:58
geser-sa    Forces the inclusion of the original source.13:03
geseri.e. the .orig.tar.gz13:03
cornucopicand -S is for signing?13:04
cornucopicor -S for source package and signing is the default behavior?13:04
geser-S     Specifies  that  only  the  source should be uploaded13:04
gesersigning is the default behaviour13:05
cornucopicthanks geser!13:05
geser-us    Do not sign the source package.13:05
geser-uc    Do not sign the .changes file.13:05
bdrung_porthose: do you have some sponsor examples?13:30
porthosebdrung_, I just sent you a mail listing all the bugs you have sponsored for me, there is also a list of bugs that I have worked on at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CharlieSmotherman :)13:55
bjsniderfoxbuntu, i removed libvdpau from the depends list14:13
bdrung_porthose: thanks.15:04
bdrung_porthose: you are doing so many syncs, why not syncing ampache? 3.0 (quilt) is now supported in ubuntu.15:05
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vadi21I'm trying to create a package for a lua module, but having a hard time understanding lua5.1-policy-dev/Makefile.Debian.conf. Anyone know a good page that explains what values are supposed to be where?19:30
crimsunsome of these upstream "fixes" for gcc-4.4's more stringent CXX compliance are downright nasty20:21
crimsunlike, casting away a const char *? what the blazes?20:21
jreinhardtHi everybody. A year ago I packaged a tex package (#310015) and tried to get it through revu, but then lost the patience. Today a new upstream version was released and I updated my package. Is someone interested in revuing it? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pgfplots21:26
TomJaegerHi. I'm trying to convert a package to debhelper 7, and I can't figure out how I'm supposed to call dh_installman, dh_installchangelogs and dh_installdocs and I can't really find any documentation besides http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/cdbs_killer___40__design_phase__41__/.21:31
TomJaegerWhat is the correct way to do this?21:31
ScottKTomJaeger: Why are you converting it?21:33
TomJaegerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/50236621:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 502366 in easystroke "Please upgrade easystroke to 0.5.2" [Undecided,Incomplete]21:36
ScottKTomJaeger: OK, but why redo the packaging?21:38
TomJaegerBenjamin suggested to switch to debhelper v7.21:38
ScottKOK, my view is generally to not make unneeded changes, but if there's a specific problem that switching to dh 7 solves, then go for it.21:39
TomJaegerI don't really care either way, so I'm fine with keeping things the way they are.21:40
foxbuntubjsnider, thanks.21:57
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dhillon-v10hi all, I am packaging this ppa for this software that has a makefile, all the user needs to do is to run the makefile and everything is done, I got everything else but including autotools.mk class gives me an error that a configure file doesn't exist and this is the way its supposed to be22:52
ScottKPPA packaging isn't on topic for #ubuntu-motu22:57
jmarsdendhillon-v10: If there is a working makefile already, why use autotools.mk ?   Seems odd, if the upstream software does not use autotools, don't package with autotools.mk :)22:58
dhillon-v10ScottK, which channel should I got to ?22:59
ScottKdhillon-v10: I'd say #launchpad, but they'd say here.  There probably isn't one.23:00
dhillon-v10jmarsden, so how do I get the debian/rules file to call the makefile23:00
dhillon-v10ScottK, :)23:00
jmarsdendhillon-v10: Just run make :)23:00
dhillon-v10jmarsden, so wait just type in make in debian/rules ? that's it23:01
jmarsdenYes.23:01
dhillon-v10jmarsden, thanks a bunch :D23:01
jmarsdenSounds like you need to go through the Package Guide and understand packaging some more...23:01
dhillon-v10jmarsden, you are awesome it works  I read the package guide before, but I will read it again :)23:02
jmarsdenYou're welcome.23:02
dhillon-v10jmarsden, every time I encounter something new I document it, so that way I don't forget, this was something I had never seen before so...23:03

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