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ron_oyah, just upgraded (fresh install) to 9.10... kind of behind the times a bit like I like to be, but it was sure worth the wait.03:04
ron_oso far so good.03:04
ron_omy suspend problem solved..03:09
ron_olove xubuntu black theme..03:13
ron_oupdated 9.10 on clean install. Installed all apps now... new HDD .. am running ext4.. could be a coincidence but this thing is flying. Yah, new system, but it feels like a whole new computer.05:15
mikubuntuhey guys wonder if theres anybody here into video issues, like converting filetypes, subtitling, etc06:49
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Guest11666help me07:12
Guest11666how do i make vlc my default application for viewing videos?07:13
surgycan someone help me with a problem i have?09:03
surgy! ask || surgy09:03
ubottu| surgy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:03
surgywhy stay brown when there are better distros that achieve the same goal via better means?09:04
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dustmanhow to disable cpu frequency adjustment when AC power is on?11:28
vishnuhow do get the theme in xubuntu?12:51
vishnui downloaded the ubuntu studio theme  and wanna activate it?12:52
vishnuany one??12:52
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gandalphhallo good evening all together18:32
gandalphi have installed xubuntu 9.10 karmic18:33
gandalphand i cant change my gdm-theme on my system18:33
gandalphhow can i set an another gdm-theme with xubuntu karmic18:34
gandalphwho can help me?18:35
gandalphno answer?18:36
Sysiit's pretty hard to change theme in new gdm18:39
Sysiyou could try google search18:39
Ov3rf10wapplications -> system -> login window18:40
Ov3rf10wmaybe18:40
Sysinot with new gdm :E18:40
Sysinew = current18:40
Ov3rf10wok, sorry18:40
Ov3rf10wi use 9.0418:40
Sysiyeah, in that it still works18:41
gandalphwhy? what was happend with xubuntu 9.10?18:41
Sysinew gdm18:41
Ov3rf10w9.10 is sucks18:41
Sysipretty much18:41
gandalphi hope xubuntu allows to change gdm-themes in the next version.18:42
Sysiif someone writes proper gdmsetup18:43
gandalphperhaps, i will downgrade to 9.04 ;-)18:45
Sysii use centos at the moment18:46
Sysifedora on netbook18:46
Sysicustom kernel is cool18:46
gandalphi want to modify my system myself and not from canonical18:47
gandalphoha, i used debian stable and sid on my laptop18:47
Sysiyou can edit the conf file propably :)18:47
gandalphfirstime, i use xubuntu on my eeebox18:47
gandalphi think, ubuntu is not so free, debian is better18:48
gandalphxubuntu is my test-environment18:49
gandalphthe hardware-detection is good18:49
gandalphbut modifing system is very strong18:50
gandalphsysi, where is the file in xubuntu?18:50
Sysii'm not sure18:51
gandalph/etc/default, etc/grub.d?18:51
Sysi!gdm18:51
gandalph!gdm18:51
Sysi!info gdm18:51
ubottugdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.28.1-0ubuntu2.1 (karmic), package size 656 kB, installed size 7280 kB18:51
gandalphwell, i have installed gdm-themes, but i can not changed gdm-themes18:53
gandalphyet18:53
gandalphi dont find a menu-entry?18:53
Sysicurrent gdmsetup is lame18:54
Sysiif you want to configure, install gentoo :P18:54
Sysiarch maybe also do18:55
gandalphsysi, i know gentoo, but i like debian. debian is great!18:56
gandalphsysi, i dont have so much time to build packages myself in gentoo.18:58
BesogonGandalph (Is it nick from The Lord of the ring) in russian lang Gandalph=Гендальф )))18:58
Sysii didn't like debian18:58
Sysiit didn't work18:59
gandalphoh, debian works all the time ;-)18:59
gandalphin stable, testing and sid18:59
BesogonSysi, ubuntu can make debian better18:59
Sysifor me it didn't, like this centos19:00
Sysiand i like yum more than apt19:00
gandalphbesogon: yes, this is my nickname :)19:00
Sysibut when i want working system, some version of ubuntu usually do it best19:01
gandalphsysi, yum is good, but apt is very flexible19:01
charlie-tca!themes19:01
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:01
Sysicurrently i can't watch dvds with this centos19:01
gandalphok, ubuntu has a good hardware-detection and ist very beginnerfriendly19:01
charlie-tcaI am not sure you can change themes in gdm anymore19:02
Sysiit might be possible, but not very ubuntu-style easy19:02
charlie-tcaNot very any easy, Ubuntu simply used what gnome created19:03
_Pete_is yum still as slow as I tried last time (2 years or so): yam install somepacket took ages like minutes19:03
gandalphhmm.. i have deactivated usplash and xsplash an my system and my system start in the textmod only19:03
charlie-tcaThey changed gnome so much, it was difficult to even get gdm to work with anything else19:03
Sysigandalph: i think i heard there was bug with that19:04
Sysifedora don't have any kind on gdmsetup19:04
gandalphi dont like fedora.19:04
gandalphsorry19:04
charlie-tcawhat desktop is fedora using?19:04
Sysihum?19:05
gandalphgnome as standard19:05
Sysithere's also kde version19:05
Sysiand different spins19:05
charlie-tcaWhat is fedora using for login?19:08
Sysigdm or kdm19:09
charlie-tcaokay. I think gdm setup is one of those applications that got tossed aside in the the re-write19:10
charlie-tcaOnce Plymouth is working, gdm should not be needed anymore19:10
gandalphsysi, do you have tested xubuntu lucid?19:12
Sysinot yet19:12
gandalphluci is very fast19:12
Sysii could try on that one machine19:12
gandalphähmm... lucid19:13
Sysiif it isn't broken19:13
gandalphit is broken yet, but you can test it! no problem!19:13
charlie-tcaWe release alpha2 on Jan 1419:14
gandalphi have installed lucid on my netbook19:14
Sysii mean broken by hw19:15
gandalphbut you cant work all the time, many packages are bug yet.19:15
charlie-tcanvidia will break it if you try to use the 185 drivers19:16
Sysicurently that machine don't boot at all19:16
Sysijaunty intallation didn't seem to work19:16
Sysii maybe try karmic again19:17
gandalphif you install the iso, also alternate or deskop-cd/dvd oder usb-stick on your pc, then is good.19:17
gandalphbut a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade, you have some problems with lucid.19:18
gandalphcharlie-tca: my netbook has an intel-grafic19:18
charlie-tcaThat should work fine in lucid, then19:19
gandalphi dont need 3d-drivers here19:19
charlie-tcaright.19:19
charlie-tcaI think they are now built into the kernel19:19
gandalphok, its fine for you ;-)19:20
Sysishouldn't intel work in karmic already?19:20
charlie-tcathe test installs I ran yesterday worked good.19:20
Sysiexept that it didn't19:20
charlie-tcaI think it does, I believe jaunty was the last version gave issues with intel, wasn't it?19:21
gandalphyes, yes, lucid hasnt a problem with intel, of course!19:21
Sysikarmic didn't work with my intel19:21
Sysicrashes after some time19:21
charlie-tca:-(19:21
Sysisame with fedora, didn't boot to centos installation19:22
Sysii'll try that again19:22
charlie-tcaIs it the intel driver or the grub2 causing it?19:22
gandalphi dont have problems with intel. do you want use 3d-effekts under lucid?19:22
Sysii'm not sure19:22
gandalphi didnt test them19:23
Sysimostly worked in hardy19:23
charlie-tcagandalph: different intel video will require a different driver19:23
gandalphbut with free drivers is lucid ok.19:23
charlie-tcaYeah, hardy was good, then we ran into a lot of intel video issues until Karmic. Hopefully, all of the issues are fixed for lucid.19:24
Sysiit didn't work perfectly with hardy, or gnome at least19:24
gandalphi have read about the intel-driver in the web, but i dont know what is special-website of intel19:25
charlie-tca!intel19:25
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.19:25
gandalphthe build their own driver with 3d-support.19:25
gandalphlook here: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm19:28
gandalphand here: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/19:29
AmakoHello19:31
gandalphamako: hello19:31
AmakoI was wondering if I can get some guidance.19:32
charlie-tcaAmako: Please the actual question you have. Guidance is a very big subject to help with.19:32
Amakoi have an old Apple Ibook G3 and i was wondering if xubuntu is compatible with it.  The downloads i see are for AMD and Intel Chipset so i'm not sure19:34
charlie-tcaLet me find it19:34
Sysiwas it so that they dropped ppc support from karmic?19:34
charlie-tcaHere is 8.10 for the G3: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/8.10/release/19:35
charlie-tcaHere is 9.04 for the G3: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/9.04/release/19:36
Sysihow about lts?19:36
charlie-tcanope19:36
charlie-tcanot for the apple19:36
Sysi:o19:36
gandalphwhy?19:36
charlie-tcaHere is 9.10 for the G3: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/9.10/release/19:37
charlie-tcaWe did not have a port for 8.0419:37
gandalphits too hard?19:37
charlie-tcaNot enough people19:37
gandalphoha :-O19:37
charlie-tcaYou can't just grab the standard images for the ibooks and PowerBooks.19:37
gandalph:-(19:38
charlie-tcaI believe they have one in development for Lucid, but it is broken right now. We will testers for it, though19:38
AmakoSweeeeet, thanks for your help.19:39
charlie-tcaYou are welcome19:39
gandalphbut, debian support. :-))19:39
charlie-tcahuh? for what? gandalph19:39
gandalphlook here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/19:39
charlie-tcaThat is not Xubuntu19:39
gandalphok, ok19:40
gandalph;-)19:40
charlie-tcaTry looking here: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/daily/current/19:40
charlie-tcaThat is the lucid port19:40
Sysiwhat i've heard, you don't get good help with debian from irc19:40
charlie-tcaThey are a bit harsh when helping19:40
gandalphok, sorry.19:41
charlie-tcagandalph: no problem. I am glad to hear debian has a port19:41
Amakoi'm new to ubuntu and to linux so thanks for the speedy help.19:41
charlie-tcaWe push the test images out daily here, for all the versions Ubuntu has19:42
gandalphthanks charlie, i have understood you ;-)19:42
charlie-tcaAmako: anytime. Feel free to just ask your questions. If anyone can answer, they will19:42
Amako:)19:42
charlie-tcaWe will be calling for testers for alpha2 starting about 2009-01-12, if anyone is interested19:43
charlie-tcaI'll make an announcement here, and on the mailing lists19:43
gandalphi will download the newest xubuntu from the web now, and test it with 3d-support, wlan and so on.19:54
charlie-tcagreat! If you find any issues, let me know19:54
gandalphinclude full-upgrade.19:54
charlie-tcaMight be too early to test upgrade, though19:54
gandalphfine charlie. you will hear from me.19:55
charlie-tcaAlso, expect a lot of changes next week, okay.19:55
charlie-tcaThanks. I will hang around for a couple of hours, then I will be back here tomorrow.19:55
gandalphbye, bye and good night! thanks for all your informations and help in this forum.19:56
charlie-tcaAlso, feel free to use email if you need to: charlie@ubuntu.com19:56
charlie-tcano19:56
charlie-tcacharlie-tca@ubuntu.com19:56
gandalphoh thanks!19:56
charlie-tcaThank you19:56
gandalphno problem!19:56
ron_ois there any way to start programs when starting the desktop in Xubuntu 9.10 and have them startup in a particular desktop?21:39
knomeron_o, see settings -> session and startup -> tab application autostart21:42
Ov3rf10wyea21:42
Carnophageron_o: take a look at devilspie → http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie21:42
knomeron_o, i don't know about the dekstop thing, though.21:42
ron_owill do Carnophage..21:43
ron_ofunny comment on people like me I guess:21:44
ron_oA totally crack-ridden program for freaks and weirdos who want precise control over what windows do when they appear. If you want all XChat windows to be on desktop 3, in the lower-left, at 40% transparency, you can do it.21:44
ron_oLOL... :)21:44
ron_odevils pie does work, but there seems to be some confusion of my xubuntu saved session, the auto-start in xubuntu and devil's pie abilit to place apps where you tell it to.22:41
ron_oability*22:41
mahoneyare there any known issues w/ adjusting brightness on karmic?23:28
mahoneyon a lcd laptop23:28
mahoneylenovos particular23:28
mahoney:P23:28
knomei don't have a lenovo ;P23:38
knomeseriously, have you tried the live cd?23:38
mahoneyit's mapped wrong basically23:40
mahoneythe adjusting script is pointing to /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness which doesn't exist23:41
mahoneyecho -n 100 > /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD05/brightness23:42
mahoneycranks it up23:42
mahoneyi couldn't figure out why my eyes were getting so strained23:42
mahoneyand it has to be in a virtual terminal23:43
mahoneyhaha23:43
knomeright23:44
knomeyou seem to be pretty far there. looks like you only have to find out how to map that correctly.23:44
mahoneyand figure out how to make it toggle'able in x23:44
knomeyup23:45
mahoneyi know how to map it23:45
mahoneyit's just a bash script in /etc/acpi/23:45
mahoneybt i don't know how to get it to work when X is rnning in the foreground23:45
knomeme neither :)23:45
knomeanyway, good luck :)23:46
mahoneyyeah thanks23:46

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