[03:04] <ron_o> yah, just upgraded (fresh install) to 9.10... kind of behind the times a bit like I like to be, but it was sure worth the wait.
[03:04] <ron_o> so far so good.
[03:09] <ron_o> my suspend problem solved..
[03:13] <ron_o> love xubuntu black theme..
[05:15] <ron_o> updated 9.10 on clean install. Installed all apps now... new HDD .. am running ext4.. could be a coincidence but this thing is flying. Yah, new system, but it feels like a whole new computer.
[06:49] <mikubuntu> hey guys wonder if theres anybody here into video issues, like converting filetypes, subtitling, etc
[07:12] <Guest11666> help me
[07:13] <Guest11666> how do i make vlc my default application for viewing videos?
[09:03] <surgy> can someone help me with a problem i have?
[09:03] <surgy> ! ask || surgy
[09:04] <surgy> why stay brown when there are better distros that achieve the same goal via better means?
[11:27] <dustman> hi
[11:28] <dustman> how to disable cpu frequency adjustment when AC power is on?
[12:51] <vishnu> how do get the theme in xubuntu?
[12:52] <vishnu> i downloaded the ubuntu studio theme  and wanna activate it?
[12:52] <vishnu> any one??
[12:54] <vishnu> v
[12:54] <vishnu> vv
[12:54] <vishnu> vv
[12:54] <vishnu> v
[12:54] <vishnu> v
[12:54] <vishnu> vv
[18:32] <gandalph> hallo good evening all together
[18:33] <gandalph> i have installed xubuntu 9.10 karmic
[18:33] <gandalph> and i cant change my gdm-theme on my system
[18:34] <gandalph> how can i set an another gdm-theme with xubuntu karmic
[18:35] <gandalph> who can help me?
[18:36] <gandalph> no answer?
[18:39] <Sysi> it's pretty hard to change theme in new gdm
[18:39] <Sysi> you could try google search
[18:40] <Ov3rf10w> applications -> system -> login window
[18:40] <Ov3rf10w> maybe
[18:40] <Sysi> not with new gdm :E
[18:40] <Sysi> new = current
[18:40] <Ov3rf10w> ok, sorry
[18:40] <Ov3rf10w> i use 9.04
[18:41] <Sysi> yeah, in that it still works
[18:41] <gandalph> why? what was happend with xubuntu 9.10?
[18:41] <Sysi> new gdm
[18:41] <Ov3rf10w> 9.10 is sucks
[18:41] <Sysi> pretty much
[18:42] <gandalph> i hope xubuntu allows to change gdm-themes in the next version.
[18:43] <Sysi> if someone writes proper gdmsetup
[18:45] <gandalph> perhaps, i will downgrade to 9.04 ;-)
[18:46] <Sysi> i use centos at the moment
[18:46] <Sysi> fedora on netbook
[18:46] <Sysi> custom kernel is cool
[18:47] <gandalph> i want to modify my system myself and not from canonical
[18:47] <gandalph> oha, i used debian stable and sid on my laptop
[18:47] <Sysi> you can edit the conf file propably :)
[18:47] <gandalph> firstime, i use xubuntu on my eeebox
[18:48] <gandalph> i think, ubuntu is not so free, debian is better
[18:49] <gandalph> xubuntu is my test-environment
[18:49] <gandalph> the hardware-detection is good
[18:50] <gandalph> but modifing system is very strong
[18:50] <gandalph> sysi, where is the file in xubuntu?
[18:51] <Sysi> i'm not sure
[18:51] <gandalph> /etc/default, etc/grub.d?
[18:51] <Sysi> !gdm
[18:51] <gandalph> !gdm
[18:51] <Sysi> !info gdm
[18:53] <gandalph> well, i have installed gdm-themes, but i can not changed gdm-themes
[18:53] <gandalph> yet
[18:53] <gandalph> i dont find a menu-entry?
[18:54] <Sysi> current gdmsetup is lame
[18:54] <Sysi> if you want to configure, install gentoo :P
[18:55] <Sysi> arch maybe also do
[18:56] <gandalph> sysi, i know gentoo, but i like debian. debian is great!
[18:58] <gandalph> sysi, i dont have so much time to build packages myself in gentoo.
[18:58] <Besogon> Gandalph (Is it nick from The Lord of the ring) in russian lang Gandalph=Гендальф )))
[18:58] <Sysi> i didn't like debian
[18:59] <Sysi> it didn't work
[18:59] <gandalph> oh, debian works all the time ;-)
[18:59] <gandalph> in stable, testing and sid
[18:59] <Besogon> Sysi, ubuntu can make debian better
[19:00] <Sysi> for me it didn't, like this centos
[19:00] <Sysi> and i like yum more than apt
[19:00] <gandalph> besogon: yes, this is my nickname :)
[19:01] <Sysi> but when i want working system, some version of ubuntu usually do it best
[19:01] <gandalph> sysi, yum is good, but apt is very flexible
[19:01] <charlie-tca> !themes
[19:01] <Sysi> currently i can't watch dvds with this centos
[19:01] <gandalph> ok, ubuntu has a good hardware-detection and ist very beginnerfriendly
[19:02] <charlie-tca> I am not sure you can change themes in gdm anymore
[19:02] <Sysi> it might be possible, but not very ubuntu-style easy
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Not very any easy, Ubuntu simply used what gnome created
[19:03] <_Pete_> is yum still as slow as I tried last time (2 years or so): yam install somepacket took ages like minutes
[19:03] <gandalph> hmm.. i have deactivated usplash and xsplash an my system and my system start in the textmod only
[19:03] <charlie-tca> They changed gnome so much, it was difficult to even get gdm to work with anything else
[19:04] <Sysi> gandalph: i think i heard there was bug with that
[19:04] <Sysi> fedora don't have any kind on gdmsetup
[19:04] <gandalph> i dont like fedora.
[19:04] <gandalph> sorry
[19:04] <charlie-tca> what desktop is fedora using?
[19:05] <Sysi> hum?
[19:05] <gandalph> gnome as standard
[19:05] <Sysi> there's also kde version
[19:05] <Sysi> and different spins
[19:08] <charlie-tca> What is fedora using for login?
[19:09] <Sysi> gdm or kdm
[19:10] <charlie-tca> okay. I think gdm setup is one of those applications that got tossed aside in the the re-write
[19:10] <charlie-tca> Once Plymouth is working, gdm should not be needed anymore
[19:12] <gandalph> sysi, do you have tested xubuntu lucid?
[19:12] <Sysi> not yet
[19:12] <gandalph> luci is very fast
[19:12] <Sysi> i could try on that one machine
[19:13] <gandalph> ähmm... lucid
[19:13] <Sysi> if it isn't broken
[19:13] <gandalph> it is broken yet, but you can test it! no problem!
[19:14] <charlie-tca> We release alpha2 on Jan 14
[19:14] <gandalph> i have installed lucid on my netbook
[19:15] <Sysi> i mean broken by hw
[19:15] <gandalph> but you cant work all the time, many packages are bug yet.
[19:16] <charlie-tca> nvidia will break it if you try to use the 185 drivers
[19:16] <Sysi> curently that machine don't boot at all
[19:16] <Sysi> jaunty intallation didn't seem to work
[19:17] <Sysi> i maybe try karmic again
[19:17] <gandalph> if you install the iso, also alternate or deskop-cd/dvd oder usb-stick on your pc, then is good.
[19:18] <gandalph> but a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade, you have some problems with lucid.
[19:18] <gandalph> charlie-tca: my netbook has an intel-grafic
[19:19] <charlie-tca> That should work fine in lucid, then
[19:19] <gandalph> i dont need 3d-drivers here
[19:19] <charlie-tca> right.
[19:19] <charlie-tca> I think they are now built into the kernel
[19:20] <gandalph> ok, its fine for you ;-)
[19:20] <Sysi> shouldn't intel work in karmic already?
[19:20] <charlie-tca> the test installs I ran yesterday worked good.
[19:20] <Sysi> exept that it didn't
[19:21] <charlie-tca> I think it does, I believe jaunty was the last version gave issues with intel, wasn't it?
[19:21] <gandalph> yes, yes, lucid hasnt a problem with intel, of course!
[19:21] <Sysi> karmic didn't work with my intel
[19:21] <Sysi> crashes after some time
[19:21] <charlie-tca> :-(
[19:22] <Sysi> same with fedora, didn't boot to centos installation
[19:22] <Sysi> i'll try that again
[19:22] <charlie-tca> Is it the intel driver or the grub2 causing it?
[19:22] <gandalph> i dont have problems with intel. do you want use 3d-effekts under lucid?
[19:22] <Sysi> i'm not sure
[19:23] <gandalph> i didnt test them
[19:23] <Sysi> mostly worked in hardy
[19:23] <charlie-tca> gandalph: different intel video will require a different driver
[19:23] <gandalph> but with free drivers is lucid ok.
[19:24] <charlie-tca> Yeah, hardy was good, then we ran into a lot of intel video issues until Karmic. Hopefully, all of the issues are fixed for lucid.
[19:24] <Sysi> it didn't work perfectly with hardy, or gnome at least
[19:25] <gandalph> i have read about the intel-driver in the web, but i dont know what is special-website of intel
[19:25] <charlie-tca> !intel
[19:25] <gandalph> the build their own driver with 3d-support.
[19:28] <gandalph> look here: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm
[19:29] <gandalph> and here: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[19:31] <Amako> Hello
[19:31] <gandalph> amako: hello
[19:32] <Amako> I was wondering if I can get some guidance.
[19:32] <charlie-tca> Amako: Please the actual question you have. Guidance is a very big subject to help with.
[19:34] <Amako> i have an old Apple Ibook G3 and i was wondering if xubuntu is compatible with it.  The downloads i see are for AMD and Intel Chipset so i'm not sure
[19:34] <charlie-tca> Let me find it
[19:34] <Sysi> was it so that they dropped ppc support from karmic?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Here is 8.10 for the G3: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/8.10/release/
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Here is 9.04 for the G3: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/9.04/release/
[19:36] <Sysi> how about lts?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> nope
[19:36] <charlie-tca> not for the apple
[19:36] <Sysi> :o
[19:36] <gandalph> why?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Here is 9.10 for the G3: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/9.10/release/
[19:37] <charlie-tca> We did not have a port for 8.04
[19:37] <gandalph> its too hard?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Not enough people
[19:37] <gandalph> oha :-O
[19:37] <charlie-tca> You can't just grab the standard images for the ibooks and PowerBooks.
[19:38] <gandalph> :-(
[19:38] <charlie-tca> I believe they have one in development for Lucid, but it is broken right now. We will testers for it, though
[19:39] <Amako> Sweeeeet, thanks for your help.
[19:39] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:39] <gandalph> but, debian support. :-))
[19:39] <charlie-tca> huh? for what? gandalph
[19:39] <gandalph> look here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/
[19:39] <charlie-tca> That is not Xubuntu
[19:40] <gandalph> ok, ok
[19:40] <gandalph> ;-)
[19:40] <charlie-tca> Try looking here: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/daily/current/
[19:40] <charlie-tca> That is the lucid port
[19:40] <Sysi> what i've heard, you don't get good help with debian from irc
[19:40] <charlie-tca> They are a bit harsh when helping
[19:41] <gandalph> ok, sorry.
[19:41] <charlie-tca> gandalph: no problem. I am glad to hear debian has a port
[19:41] <Amako> i'm new to ubuntu and to linux so thanks for the speedy help.
[19:42] <charlie-tca> We push the test images out daily here, for all the versions Ubuntu has
[19:42] <gandalph> thanks charlie, i have understood you ;-)
[19:42] <charlie-tca> Amako: anytime. Feel free to just ask your questions. If anyone can answer, they will
[19:42] <Amako> :)
[19:43] <charlie-tca> We will be calling for testers for alpha2 starting about 2009-01-12, if anyone is interested
[19:43] <charlie-tca> I'll make an announcement here, and on the mailing lists
[19:54] <gandalph> i will download the newest xubuntu from the web now, and test it with 3d-support, wlan and so on.
[19:54] <charlie-tca> great! If you find any issues, let me know
[19:54] <gandalph> include full-upgrade.
[19:54] <charlie-tca> Might be too early to test upgrade, though
[19:55] <gandalph> fine charlie. you will hear from me.
[19:55] <charlie-tca> Also, expect a lot of changes next week, okay.
[19:55] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I will hang around for a couple of hours, then I will be back here tomorrow.
[19:56] <gandalph> bye, bye and good night! thanks for all your informations and help in this forum.
[19:56] <charlie-tca> Also, feel free to use email if you need to: charlie@ubuntu.com
[19:56] <charlie-tca> no
[19:56] <charlie-tca> charlie-tca@ubuntu.com
[19:56] <gandalph> oh thanks!
[19:56] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[19:56] <gandalph> no problem!
[21:39] <ron_o> is there any way to start programs when starting the desktop in Xubuntu 9.10 and have them startup in a particular desktop?
[21:42] <knome> ron_o, see settings -> session and startup -> tab application autostart
[21:42] <Ov3rf10w> yea
[21:42] <Carnophage> ron_o: take a look at devilspie → http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie
[21:42] <knome> ron_o, i don't know about the dekstop thing, though.
[21:43] <ron_o> will do Carnophage..
[21:44] <ron_o> funny comment on people like me I guess:
[21:44] <ron_o> A totally crack-ridden program for freaks and weirdos who want precise control over what windows do when they appear. If you want all XChat windows to be on desktop 3, in the lower-left, at 40% transparency, you can do it.
[21:44] <ron_o> LOL... :)
[22:41] <ron_o> devils pie does work, but there seems to be some confusion of my xubuntu saved session, the auto-start in xubuntu and devil's pie abilit to place apps where you tell it to.
[22:41] <ron_o> ability*
[23:28] <mahoney> are there any known issues w/ adjusting brightness on karmic?
[23:28] <mahoney> on a lcd laptop
[23:28] <mahoney> lenovos particular
[23:28] <mahoney> :P
[23:38] <knome> i don't have a lenovo ;P
[23:38] <knome> seriously, have you tried the live cd?
[23:40] <mahoney> it's mapped wrong basically
[23:41] <mahoney> the adjusting script is pointing to /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness which doesn't exist
[23:42] <mahoney> echo -n 100 > /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD05/brightness
[23:42] <mahoney> cranks it up
[23:42] <mahoney> i couldn't figure out why my eyes were getting so strained
[23:43] <mahoney> and it has to be in a virtual terminal
[23:43] <mahoney> haha
[23:44] <knome> right
[23:44] <knome> you seem to be pretty far there. looks like you only have to find out how to map that correctly.
[23:44] <mahoney> and figure out how to make it toggle'able in x
[23:45] <knome> yup
[23:45] <mahoney> i know how to map it
[23:45] <mahoney> it's just a bash script in /etc/acpi/
[23:45] <mahoney> bt i don't know how to get it to work when X is rnning in the foreground
[23:45] <knome> me neither :)
[23:46] <knome> anyway, good luck :)
[23:46] <mahoney> yeah thanks