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| Ahmuck-Jr | the emperor has no clothes | 00:22 |
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| === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg | ||
| sbalneav | Evening all | 04:23 |
| HedgeMage | hi, sbalneav | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | Heya HedgeMage!!!! | 04:25 |
| HedgeMage | Do you have a minute to look at something for me? I'm working on ideas for the edubuntu.org redesign (though these are just rough thoughts -- I haven't even caught up with highvoltage to show him yet, I'm just showing them around to get input) | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | How was Christmas and Newyears? | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | Sure! | 04:25 |
| sbalneav | Lay it on me. | 04:25 |
| HedgeMage | The latest front page mockup is at http://imagebin.ca/view/KgCXBt.html | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | I'd replace "education obsessed-wing" with "Education activist cell" :) | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | Looks awesome | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | Love the Lorum Ipsums :) | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | Is our site drupal? | 04:29 |
| sbalneav | You do all that graphics stuff yourself?! | 04:29 |
| HedgeMage | Yes, our site is Drupal, though it needs updating badly... highvoltage and I talked about it at length after the meeting and have some plans. | 04:30 |
| HedgeMage | And yes, I did those graphics myself, other than the logo which I grabbed from somewhere a while ago. | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | I wish I could do graphics stuff. | 04:31 |
| HedgeMage | I'm not great at it -- at work I keep a pro designer on staff -- but this should be workable | 04:31 |
| HedgeMage | Here's a rough of the forum page: http://imagebin.ca/view/5n49WaF.html (still unfinished, but a general idea, also shows how the header looks on a wider display) | 04:32 |
| sbalneav | So, the work you do, you own a business with a staff? Yowie Zowie! Awesome. | 04:32 |
| sbalneav | Nice! | 04:32 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage and I talked about, instead of starting standalone webforums, creating forums linked to the existing mailing lists. | 04:32 |
| sbalneav | Ah! That would be great. | 04:33 |
| HedgeMage | That way, we have instant traffic, and lower the barrier to entry for the most-used discussion fora. | 04:33 |
| sbalneav | I really hate the "Check the mailing list! No Check the forums" dichotomy. | 04:33 |
| sbalneav | Ulitmately, what we really need is webforum software where the "database backend" is the mailing list :) | 04:34 |
| HedgeMage | That's exactly what we're building | 04:34 |
| sbalneav | Supah! | 04:34 |
| HedgeMage | The forum is just another way of accessing the ML | 04:34 |
| sbalneav | If you need some python/C help, lemme know. | 04:34 |
| HedgeMage | Thanks, but this is 100% PHP because that is what Drupal is in. | 04:35 |
| sbalneav | Everybody oooh's and ahhh's over people who can program. "Ooooh, you must be sooo smart to be able to program". But programming's just crank-turning to a large degree. Having a good eye for layout, being able to draw and manipulate graphics, know ing what fonts to use where, that an art. Art takes *talent*. | 04:36 |
| HedgeMage | Programming takes a clarity of thought that most people don't have, though. | 04:37 |
| HedgeMage | I'm more coder than designer, though my artist has taught me some basics :) | 04:37 |
| sbalneav | I think a forum/ml integration could pretty much be a FS project on it's own. | 04:37 |
| sbalneav | You're better than I | 04:37 |
| HedgeMage | FS? | 04:37 |
| sbalneav | Free Software | 04:38 |
| HedgeMage | heh, thanks | 04:38 |
| HedgeMage | ahh | 04:38 |
| HedgeMage | The forum/ml gateway is already available as a Drupal module...it just requires configuration. | 04:38 |
| sbalneav | That'd be a winner if you got it going. LOTS of projects would love that. | 04:38 |
| HedgeMage | I've used it on many sites before. | 04:38 |
| sbalneav | Really?! How come we don't use it more?! | 04:38 |
| sbalneav | Wow | 04:38 |
| HedgeMage | Because most people working on these, while well-meaning, are doing it as a first Drupal experience. I do it for a living, so I already know where all the cool toys are ;) | 04:39 |
| sbalneav | Supah! | 04:39 |
| sbalneav | Excited about the "re-vitalization" of Edubuntu? | 04:39 |
| HedgeMage | Yep. :) | 04:40 |
| sbalneav | Cool, when't the next meeting for F&O? | 04:40 |
| sbalneav | When's | 04:40 |
| HedgeMage | Can I look it up and jabber or email you? I don't know off the top of my head but I think I have it somewhere. | 04:40 |
| HedgeMage | My usual strategy is waiting for dorenwen to remind me ;) | 04:41 |
| sbalneav | Sure, you know where to find me on jabber | 04:42 |
| HedgeMage | cool | 04:43 |
| HedgeMage | sbalneav: I'm starting to think about writing up the edubuntu redesign/upgrades in a case study for drupal.org -- I think it would both help other open source projects that aren't quite sure what to do with their sites, and give edubuntu some visibility -- what do you think? | 04:45 |
| sbalneav | Looks like I've actually managed to get some interest going for bug day. | 04:45 |
| HedgeMage | cool :) | 04:45 |
| sbalneav | Sounds like a great idea. | 04:45 |
| sbalneav | Are you, or have you ever considered, contributing upstream to Drupal? | 04:46 |
| HedgeMage | I have been for years :) | 04:46 |
| HedgeMage | I'm not one of the biggest contributers, but I'm active in the issue queues whether testing or submitting patches or whatnot. | 04:46 |
| sbalneav | Awesome. | 04:47 |
| sbalneav | It's great when you use a tool for your work, being upstream for the tool. | 04:47 |
| HedgeMage | Definitely. | 04:47 |
| sbalneav | It's like me with LTSP. I use LTSP at work, and I'm a developer. | 04:47 |
| * HedgeMage nods | 04:47 | |
| HedgeMage | The people who write the stuff invariably know it best. | 04:48 |
| sbalneav | It's like the old saying: if you know how to cook, you always get to eat what you want. | 04:48 |
| HedgeMage | :D | 04:48 |
| sbalneav | Being involved upstream guarentees you'll always get your itches scratched. | 04:48 |
| HedgeMage | Yes, and always know what's coming so you can be on the forefront. | 04:49 |
| sbalneav | Right, web consulting's a cutthoat business, lots of competition. Being one step ahead = $$ | 04:50 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 04:50 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, I think your designs would be awesome, and I'm REALLY liking the ML/WebForum gateway. | 04:51 |
| HedgeMage | Thanks! | 04:52 |
| HedgeMage | I'm going to treat myself to a long, hot shower, warm jammies, and my new slippers. Be back in an hour, give or take. | 04:55 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 04:55 |
| sbalneav | kk | 04:55 |
| sbalneav | I'll be here | 04:55 |
| * HedgeMage returns, wearing awesome slippers | 06:23 | |
| HedgeMage | (and pajamas...not JUST slippers) | 06:23 |
| === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg | ||
| HedgeMage | hi, alkisg | 17:37 |
| alkisg | Hi HedgeMage, how are you? | 17:55 |
| HedgeMage | alkisg: Not bad at all, you? | 17:58 |
| alkisg | Fine :) | 17:58 |
| ubunturookie | hi | 18:03 |
| ubunturookie | i have an acer aspire and i was running ubuntu 8.04 and my wireless was running i up dated to 9.04 and 9.10 now my wireless stopped what may i do to have my wireless again? | 18:03 |
| alkisg | ubunturookie: you should probably ask this question in #ubuntu, this channel (#edubuntu) is for education-related stuff... | 18:05 |
| ubunturookie | sorry | 18:05 |
| alkisg | np | 18:05 |
| HedgeMage | brb | 18:05 |
| HedgeMage | I'm back, but I may be slow to respond...I'm eating :) | 18:14 |
| alkisg | HedgeMage: about http://imagebin.ca/view/KgCXBt.html - you're doing a fine job! But, maybe the colors are a bit vivid? | 18:25 |
| HedgeMage | alkisg: check out http://imagebin.ca/view/5n49WaF.html -- it's a work-in-progress of the forum page draft, with less punchy colors | 18:26 |
| alkisg | Yup, saw it, looks fine and it was much needed :) | 18:27 |
| HedgeMage | cool :) | 18:29 |
| moldy | hello | 19:35 |
| HedgeMage | hello :) | 19:36 |
| alkisg | !info empathy lucid | 22:39 |
| ubottu | empathy (source: empathy): High-level library and user-interface for Telepathy. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29.3-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 332 kB, installed size 1236 kB | 22:39 |
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