[00:18] <bjsnider> you need to use debuild -S -sa
[04:30] <Some_Person> I'm trying to upload a rather large package, but it keeps stalling. I'm uploading using dput, and it stops at ``Uploading supertux_0.3.2-SVN~r6246.tar.gz: 148569k/148570k''
[04:31] <Some_Person> It just sits there, doing nothing
[05:04] <Some_Person> Is there any way to upload it to my PPA without dput?
[11:02] <shadeslayer> hi any launchpad admins here?
[11:11] <maxb> shadeslayer: Unlikely on a weekend. File a question in the tracker. https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[11:11] <shadeslayer> maxb: well i dont have a question,more of a request
[11:12] <shadeslayer> i wanted to change my lp url and have a PPA deleted which has never had published packages
[11:12] <maxb> The question tracker does double duty for that too
[11:12] <shadeslayer> oh cool :)
[11:17] <shadeslayer> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/96021
[11:17] <shadeslayer> maxb: thats enough info right? ^^
[11:19] <maxb> shadeslayer: You've given a choice of names... I'd imagine the admins will end up asking you which one you actually want
[11:19] <shadeslayer> well its in the order of prefrence
[11:21] <shadeslayer> maxb: ive added a comment :)
[11:26] <steffan> maxb: is it possible to assign a question to a certain group of people such as the LOSAs, or can only certain people do that?
[11:32] <maxb> Only certain people. Which is slightly annoying if you know your question is to the LOSAs, but on the other hand, I guess it makes sense for the LOSAs to be confronted with only a pre-triaged list of questions, given how busy they can be.
[11:43] <steffan> maxb: I'm sure that function is restricted for a certain reason, I was just wondering
[12:30] <A4Tech> All greetings. How can I delete team on launchpad?
[12:31] <Demophobie> Hello together!
[12:32] <Demophobie> A4Tech: i think i asked the same question a year ago. They told me there is no way at the moment. But it was last year ;)
[12:37] <A4Tech> Demophobie Very sad =(
[12:40] <persia> Demophobie: Did you file a question last year?
[12:41] <A4Tech> o! In any case, developers know all the functions ... :) /me went to #launchpad-dev
[12:42] <wgrant> A4Tech, Demophobie: An admin can disable (ie. make disappear) a team for you. Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[12:45] <Demophobie> Ah. Okay.
[12:46] <Demophobie> However, i have problems with my language queue
[12:46] <Demophobie> lp does not import our po's automatically. i updated them yesterday in our branch
[15:08] <rioch> Does launchpad have keyword replacement for version numbers like in svn?
[16:14] <sinzui> rioch: There is a bzr plugin that provides the feature: http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/KeywordExpansion
[17:27] <rioch> how can I prevent bazaar from uploading .pyc files to launchpad?
[17:28] <beuno> rioch, bzr should ignore pyc files by default
[17:29] <rioch> ah great :)
[18:04] <doctormo> I have a problem with the lp-project-upload script
[18:04] <doctormo> > An error happened in the upload: signature_content: Cannot upload files larger than 1024 bytes
[18:18] <Noldorin> hi. i've just starting using bzr 2.0 on windows (upgrading from bzr 1.x), but am running into some problem with ssh auth on launchpad
[18:19] <Noldorin> i'm using paramiko now rather than plink, as well
[18:19] <Noldorin> Permission denied (publickey).
[18:19] <Noldorin> is the error i get
[20:38] <troy43> Hi!, some expert in PPA?, I own a PPA to distribute my program, it has a jaunty published package, how can I updated it to karmic? Am I supposed to recompile it in a karmic pc and upload it again or can the ubuntu buildroots do this for me from the ppa webpage?
[20:39] <maxb> You can copy a source package including its built binaries from one distroseries to another from the /+copy-packages subpage of a PPA
[20:40] <geser> maxb: but if troy43 really needs a rebuild an new upload (with a bumped version) is necessary
[20:40] <maxb> If the package is such that it needs to rebuilt for karmic, you must increment the version number and reupload
[20:42] <troy43> and what is the criteria for "it needs to rebuilt"? I mean the dependencies of my program hasn't changed, and were present in jaunty and also in karmic..
[20:42] <geser> library transition for example
[20:43] <troy43> it only depends in libglade, libcurl and libpcre.. all those are well known packages in jaunty and karmic..
[20:43] <maxb> For a C program, it's largely whether any dependencies have changed their soname
[20:43] <maxb> A reasonable option is to install the jaunty .deb on a karmic system and check it works
[20:47] <troy43> geser: I tried the "Copy package" with the option "Rebuild the copied sources" enabled, but gives me the error: "The following source cannot be copied:* myprogram 1.2.0ppa in jaunty (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive)"
[20:47] <maxb> Indeed. You cannot rebuild sources within the same PPA
[20:47] <maxb> Nor should you ever rebuild sources with the same version number except in very special circumstances
[20:48] <maxb> The reason for this is that by creating multiple .debs with the same name and version number, you confuse both humans and software
[20:48] <maxb> You must either copy including the existing binaries, or reupload a new version
[20:49] <geser> not to mention that you can't store two different files with the same name in one directory
[20:49] <troy43> maxb: But the last version of my program hasnt change from jaunty to karmic, I mean, there's not been new versions of my program, I just want to distribute it now to karmic users..
[20:50] <maxb> But a rebuild would create new binaries. It would be erroneous to have two different binary packages that were named identically
[20:50] <geser> you only need a new "revision" of your package (revision = the part after the last - in the version string)
[20:50] <maxb> What is the exact version string of your current package?
[20:50] <troy43> maxb: fair enough, thanks for the explanation, the error should give some hints.. because
[20:53] <troy43> the "copy existing binaries" felt like wrong to me because I thought a program compile for jaunty wouldnt work in karmic.. it seems I was wrong..
[20:54] <maxb> troy43: Remember that karmic started its life as a copy of jaunty
[20:57] <troy43> maxb: Ok, thanks very much for the information :-), nobody in #ubuntu could answer me..
[20:58] <Some_Person> How many PPAs can one person have?
[20:59] <troy43> geser: thanks for your answers too, I will try to avoid to make a new revision, I'm going now to try the "Copy existing binaries" option..
[21:04]  * micahg is up to 7 Some_Person
[21:07] <Some_Person> What is the "lpia" build?
[21:08] <micahg> Some_Person: lpia is an Intel low power arch, it is no longer supported in Lucid on
[21:16] <troy43> the "Copy existing binaries" option worked like a charm, I now have karmic packages of my program, I've install it an works well.. Thanks!!
[21:17] <troy43> Although I had to install it with apt-get from the commanline, because the Ubuntu Software Center didn't bring results when searching for my program..
[21:45] <micahg> what are the rules for a display name in LP?
[21:45]  * micahg thinks he found a violation
[21:50] <jml> micahg, rules, you say
[21:50] <jml> micahg, there might not be rules per se.
[21:50] <micahg> jml, is this a problem? https://edge.launchpad.net/~newacct
[21:51] <jml> micahg, yeah, it is.
[21:51] <micahg> :), can you take care of it please?
[21:51] <jml> micahg, there's certainly the implicit rule of "Don't be a dick"
[21:51] <micahg> jml: I'm sure that was no pun intended ;)
[21:51] <jml> micahg, I'll see what I can do.
[21:52] <micahg> thanks
[21:55] <jml> micahg, I need a LOSA to do it. There won't be one around for another couple of hours.
[21:59] <jml> micahg, the comments made by that user are all reasonable. it's probably not an abuse account.
[22:07] <micahg> jml: I know, that's the weird thing
[22:07] <micahg> I was going to send a comment, but I didn't feel I had sufficient authority to do so
[22:12] <Some_Person> I uploaded a package for karmic. Can I make it also build a version for lucid without reuploading anything?
[22:12] <Some_Person> It would be a waste just to edit the changelog and reupload
[22:13] <geser> you can copy the source package + binary debs to lucid if you don't need a recompile
[22:15] <jml> micahg, well, any one in the community has authority to ask questions like "you seem like a nice person, why do you have such an unusual and often offensive nick name?"
[22:15] <micahg> jml: k
[22:19]  * jml -> cafe w/ internet
[22:19] <micahg> jml: so, should I do that or wait for a LOSA?
[22:20] <jml> micahg, Do it now, I reckon. Can you please CC me?
[22:20] <micahg> jml: can I do that through the interface?
[22:21] <jml> micahg, CC me, no.
[22:21] <jml> micahg, I guess I have special email address viewing powers.
[22:21] <micahg> jml: ok, so what to do?
[22:22] <jml> micahg, just send it, and then let me know how it goes :)
[22:22] <micahg> jml: k
[22:22] <jml> micahg, thanks! :)
[22:22] <micahg> jml: I can copy you if there is a back and forth
[22:22] <jml> micahg, that'd be great, thanks.
[22:23] <jml> micahg, anyway, I've really got to go. If I don't leave the house I'll never feel like I've started work. :)
[22:23] <micahg> jml: I have the same problem, but I have a flat tire :)
[22:28] <geser> excuses :)
[22:37] <Some_Person> Can I copy the package and have it recompile it?
[22:38] <Some_Person> I just tried copying with the binaries and my ubuntu doesn't like it
[22:40] <geser> no, as you can't have two different debs with the same version (and therefore file name)
[22:41] <geser> and the package manager wouldn't like it either (think of someone using your PPA and they update from karmic to lucid)
[22:43] <Some_Person> so I need to change the version number and the distribution and then reupload?
[22:43] <geser> yes
[22:58] <jml> good morning Launchpadders
[23:01] <micahg> jml: what tz are you?
[23:01] <jml> micahg, AEST, UTC+11
[23:01] <jml> micahg, but only for another week
[23:02] <micahg> ah
[23:14] <Some_Person> urgh, "dpkg-deb - error: Debian revision (`ppa') doesn't contain any digits"
[23:20] <maxb> what is your full version string?
[23:35] <jml> micahg, our friendly neighbourhood losa has changed the account name and sent an email to ~newacct explaining why.
[23:35] <micahg> jml: ok, thanks
[23:36] <hggdh> Can someone please suspend pstone78 from launchpad *now*? User is, er, spamming bugs with dangerous instructions -- see http://tinyurl.com/ycke5as
[23:41] <spm> hggdh: looking
[23:41] <jml> spm, hggdh, he seems to have stopped over half an hour ago.
[23:42] <jml> hggdh, I think suspending is a bit heavy-handed, tbh.
[23:42] <hggdh> jml if s/he has stopped, I agree. I just sent an email to her/him asking to stop, and to go to #ubuntu-bugs to discuss
[23:42] <spm> jml: agreed. the person means well by my read - if the suggestions are poor, a more accurate response in the threads in question would be better.
[23:43] <jml> hggdh, cool, thanks.
[23:43] <jml> hggdh, after all, if we suspended everyone who gave bad advice...
[23:43] <hggdh> spm, jml: yes, I am going to each one of the bugs and will ask for his comments to be disregarded
[23:43] <jml> (also, I've been trying so hard to avoid gender-specific pronouns today...)
[23:44] <hggdh> jml: one bad advice is no big deal, 16 of them starts to be
[23:44] <jml> hggdh, heh. actually, I'd be more likely to suspend for copy/pasting instructions rather than linking:)
[23:44] <hggdh> heh... sometimes it is not worth the trouble, to be gender-neutral
[23:50] <hggdh> jml: BTW, please do not suspend me (I am copying & pasting a warning on the 16 bugs) ;-)
[23:50] <jml> hggdh, I won't :)
[23:51]  * hggdh gratefully bows