| jaapz | hiya | 18:04 |
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| jaapz | Is there a way to theme a single gtk window | 18:05 |
| DanRabbit | jaapz: you can specifically theme an app | 18:13 |
| DanRabbit | or a part of an app | 18:13 |
| jaapz | DanRabbit, but how | 18:14 |
| DanRabbit | jaapz: well, you need to understand how GTKRC works. | 18:14 |
| DanRabbit | when you're creating those styles, you're doing two things | 18:15 |
| DanRabbit | first, you're defining a style | 18:16 |
| DanRabbit | then, you're pointing out widgets or widgets classes and them telling them what style to use | 18:16 |
| jaapz | DanRabbit, do you know a tutorial? | 18:16 |
| DanRabbit | Aldo Zenzo had one, but it got messed up >.< | 18:17 |
| DanRabbit | some kind of weird data loss issue | 18:17 |
| jaapz | :P | 18:17 |
| jaapz | Well that sucks | 18:17 |
| DanRabbit | jaapz: this is a line from my gtkrc that styles Midori Browser | 18:18 |
| DanRabbit | widget"MidoriBrowser.GtkVBox.GtkHPaned.GtkVPaned.GtkNotebook"style "midori-notebook" | 18:18 |
| DanRabbit | I'm saying "Hey this is a widget" | 18:18 |
| DanRabbit | Then the following nonsense is a hierarchy | 18:18 |
| DanRabbit | This widget lives here | 18:18 |
| \vish | jaapz: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes , give it a shot , and also have a look at the gtkrc at other themes , will give you a good idea :) | 18:19 |
| DanRabbit | OKay, so the widget is a notebook inside "GtkVPaned" inside "GtkHPaned" inside "GtkVBox" inside the app "MidoriBrowser" | 18:20 |
| \vish | gtkrc of* other themes | 18:20 |
| jaapz | DanRabbit, i dont understand a word you saying XD | 18:20 |
| jaapz | \vish, ill look into that, thanks | 18:20 |
| DanRabbit | ah... | 18:20 |
| DanRabbit | sorry :p | 18:20 |
| \vish | jaapz: | 18:21 |
| \vish | oops! | 18:21 |
| jaapz | :P | 18:21 |
| oskude | hi, what do you think ? http://osku.de/post/plymouth_space-sunrise_ubuntu.ogv (sources: http://gitorious.org/oskude-plymouth-themes/space-sunrise/commits/ubuntu) | 20:43 |
| coz_ | oskude, this is for xplash animation? | 20:44 |
| oskude | plymouth | 20:45 |
| coz_ | oh ok I havent tried plymouth | 20:45 |
| oskude | pretty nifty! i just followed this: http://brej.org/blog/?p=174 | 20:45 |
| thorwil | oskude: i like the start, but the black ubuntu logo eclipsing the light sends a very dark message | 20:45 |
| oskude | its a ubuntu monolith! its full of stars! ;P | 20:46 |
| oskude | but yeah, its a thing i made in few mins | 20:46 |
| oskude | not including the "base" thing (master branch) | 20:46 |
| thorwil | oskude: you could try to turn the start itself into a ubuntu logo | 20:46 |
| \vish | oskude: stars/space screams OSX... sun rays fedora.. ;) | 20:46 |
| coz_ | ubuntu sun :) | 20:47 |
| oskude | if i learn how to draw (in inkscape) nice lenslfares, i gotta test that too :) | 20:47 |
| coz_ | yeah i would turn the "while" halo into ubuntu orange colours with the sun the actual ubuntu logo ? | 20:47 |
| thorwil | \vish: yeah, a little scarabeus rolling a dung ball that then turns into the CoC would be more fitting, eh? ;) | 20:48 |
| oskude | coz_, follow the tutorial to get plymouth dev system, get that space-sunrise ubuntu branch, follow the readme, should be easy | 20:48 |
| coz_ | ok thanks guy | 20:48 |
| coz_ | not really interested in plymouth at this point though.... still working on xsplash animations :) | 20:49 |
| \vish | hehe ;) | 20:49 |
| oskude | oh | 20:49 |
| oskude | i thought next ubuntu uses plymouth ? | 20:49 |
| \vish | coz_: lucid is plymouth _ xsplash | 20:49 |
| \vish | s/_/+ | 20:50 |
| oskude | oh | 20:50 |
| coz_ | \vish, mm I have lucid installed and it is using xplash animations right now | 20:50 |
| thorwil | didn't you listen, coz_ is not interested!! | 20:50 |
| * oskude goes check what is xplash | 20:50 | |
| \vish | coz_: starting is plymouth :) , it is used instead of usplash | 20:50 |
| coz_ | thorwil, well at least at this point... I dont see plymouth in lucid on my one machine as of yet | 20:50 |
| coz_ | \vish, nope it is using xplash here and its up to date although I will have t check to be sure hold on | 20:51 |
| \vish | coz_: do you have libplymouth2 installed? | 20:51 |
| oskude | anyone got a link to xplash homepage ? google is not helping me... | 20:52 |
| coz_ | \vish, that is not in lucid repos as of yet at least on t his system | 20:52 |
| coz_ | oskude, I dont... I do have a link talking about how to create the animations hold on | 20:53 |
| \vish | coz_: interesting... what is the graphics card? | 20:53 |
| coz_ | \vish, nvidia | 20:53 |
| oskude | coz_, that would be even better! :) | 20:53 |
| coz_ | oskude, http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/12/customizing-x-splash.html | 20:53 |
| \vish | oskude: xsplash is new canonical experimental stuff... so that blog is the best shot ;) | 20:54 |
| \vish | no homepage yet | 20:54 |
| oskude | roger, thanks \vish coz_ | 20:54 |
| coz_ | although creating a 50 frame minimum animation is a pain in the butt | 20:54 |
| oskude | so xplash uses opengl ? | 20:55 |
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| coz_ | oskude,I am not sure... but I dont think so I could be wrong | 20:56 |
| oskude | coz_, hmm, that tutorial you gave me, is that all xplash can ? | 20:59 |
| oskude | "play a video" | 21:00 |
| coz_ | oskude, well what it does is have a small area animated during boot sequence but it can be more complex than that let me find another video | 21:00 |
| coz_ | oskude, if you scroll down here http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/search/label/*buntu you can see troy's take on the boot sequence] | 21:00 |
| oskude | i did that ubuntu plymouth thing with this: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth/Scripts | 21:01 |
| coz_ | oskude, also here http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubuntu+boot+animation&search_type=&aq=f is a list of attemtps with xplash animations | 21:02 |
| oskude | nice! if thats opengl and not video | 21:02 |
| coz_ | oskude, all I know at this point is that it is a 50 or + frame animation in a single png file | 21:03 |
| oskude | yup, must be opengl, what also means x is already running, AFAIK | 21:04 |
| oskude | so plymouth comes before xsplash, if i understand correctly | 21:04 |
| \vish | yup | 21:05 |
| coz_ | I believe so | 21:05 |
| coz_ | I wouldnt mind a bit of animation prior to xsplash | 21:05 |
| oskude | and i want opengl as computer starts! :) | 21:06 |
| \vish | oskude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIBD4lRJS0Y | 21:06 |
| \vish | thats what they are trying to do as of now :) with plymouth and X | 21:07 |
| * \vish wonders how they would figure out which frame plymouth stopped , to start the xsplash animation o.0 | 21:08 | |
| coz_ | mmm a bit of a frame drop | 21:09 |
| coz_ | from one to the other | 21:09 |
| oskude | so what is next ubuntu gonna use, plymouth alone, or plymouth + xsplash ? | 21:10 |
| coz_ | oskude, I am not sure I know right now lucid is not using plymouth at all | 21:10 |
| coz_ | oskude, it is using xplash | 21:10 |
| oskude | and before X ? also xsplash ? | 21:11 |
| coz_ | oskude, no just black | 21:11 |
| oskude | k | 21:11 |
| \vish | actually the plan is to use plymouth+xsplash ... wonder how coz_ is special :D | 21:11 |
| coz_ | \vish, special? | 21:12 |
| \vish | coz_: i'm not sure why plymouth isnt in your system... maybe nvidia is able to start X very early | 21:12 |
| coz_ | \vish, I am not sure either ..just did update on the lucid system and still libplymoouth is not in the repo | 21:13 |
| oskude | \vish, roger. hows the visual transition from plymouth to xplash ? is it flicker free, can it fade ? | 21:13 |
| \vish | coz_: is usplash installed for you? | 21:13 |
| coz_ | I would assume let me check | 21:14 |
| \vish | oskude: its still experimental , so only the in-house design team knows more about it | 21:14 |
| coz_ | \vish, yeah libusplash is there | 21:14 |
| oskude | \vish, and do they hangout here ? | 21:14 |
| \vish | coz_: for me , updates removed usplash and installed libplymouth o.0 | 21:14 |
| coz_ | \vish, thats interesting... mmm I better check my repos just incase :) | 21:15 |
| oskude | coz_, did you do dist-upgrade or upgrade ? | 21:15 |
| oskude | just quessign | 21:15 |
| \vish | oskude: today is sunday , they would probably return from vacation tomorrow... kwwii is one of the design team.. also mat_t | 21:16 |
| coz_ | oskude, dist-upgrade when I use terminal | 21:16 |
| oskude | \vish, roger | 21:16 |
| oskude | coz_, roger. then at leas i would except you get the lates stuff | 21:16 |
| oskude | coz_, and you did update too (just to be complete) | 21:17 |
| coz_ | oskude, :) yes I did.... still no libplymouth though | 21:18 |
| coz_ | \vish, could i see your sources.list ? | 21:18 |
| oskude | coz_, cant help more, i use 9.10 | 21:18 |
| * \vish did a clean install | 21:18 | |
| coz_ | oskude, I am on 9.10 here but the lucid box is on the other desk:) | 21:18 |
| coz_ | \vish, same here but I can download the current cd and reinstall | 21:19 |
| \vish | coz_: hmm , i see libusplash too , but > Commit Log for Wed Dec 16 12:55:50 2009 | 21:19 |
| \vish | Removed the following packages: | 21:19 |
| \vish | usplash | 21:19 |
| \vish | usplash-theme-ubuntu | 21:19 |
| oskude | maybe mirror still out of sync ? | 21:20 |
| coz_ | \vish, ok then I will download current cd and reinstall clean again.... | 21:20 |
| oskude | repo mirror | 21:20 |
| coz_ | I will try this a bit later then .... I am sure libplymouth will show up at that point. | 21:21 |
| \vish | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience | 21:28 |
| oskude | xsplash-0.8.5 README file empty... | 21:29 |
| \vish | coz_: you had me confused for a min :D ... then i found the wiki^ ;) | 21:30 |
| coz_ | \vish, thanks :) | 21:37 |
| coz_ | \vish, I am sure it is my install ... as I said I will just clean install from current cd | 21:37 |
| \vish | coz_: hehe , i guess its part of the fun of using an alpha :) | 21:38 |
| coz_ | \vish, for sure :) | 21:38 |
| coz_ | \vish, we are at alpha 1 right now? | 21:38 |
| \vish | yup | 21:38 |
| oskude | so this would be possible with xsplash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDPZDv4Bvg using openql ? or would it play frames ? (images) | 21:39 |
| oskude | as i cant any technical info about xsplash :/ | 21:41 |
| coz_ | oskude, mm that looks more like plymouth | 21:41 |
| oskude | coz_, it's supposed to be a mockup for xsplash | 21:42 |
| oskude | well, i assume xsplash uses opengl | 21:42 |
| coz_ | oskude, mm I am not sure ...as I said right now I am stuggling just understanding the current set up for xplash animations and so far they are fairly small ...but I assume they could be full screen | 21:42 |
| coz_ | oskude, example idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LAG27baEU | 21:43 |
| \vish | coz_: Mads , usually does his mockups in illustrator using after effects or something... | 21:44 |
| oskude | must be opengl, i wonder if even clutter project | 21:44 |
| zniavre | hello | 21:44 |
| coz_ | \vish, did you see troy's animation for this? | 21:44 |
| oskude | sad that there is so less info about xsplash, looks awesome! | 21:44 |
| \vish | coz_: the one with the notify-osd? | 21:45 |
| coz_ | \vish, yeah I believe | 21:45 |
| coz_ | so | 21:45 |
| \vish | zniavre: hi... | 21:45 |
| coz_ | oskude, I have examples here and the imagemagick command to put all of the animation cells into single png format but that is all on that link I gave you also :) | 21:45 |
| coz_ | actually I deleted all of my examples :( | 21:46 |
| zniavre | im trying nautilus with split view > does it included into lucid ? | 21:46 |
| \vish | oskude: even with frames we can get the same effect | 21:46 |
| \vish | zniavre: not yet | 21:46 |
| zniavre | ok | 21:46 |
| \vish | coz_: its interesting... but seems no one from the design team wants to do it... hence troy got even more pissed i guess ;p | 21:47 |
| oskude | \vish, but then it wont be cool (from technical point) ;P | 21:47 |
| coz_ | \vish, yeah I know .. I had suggested that sequence several times with absolutely no response | 21:48 |
| coz_ | \vish, I dont blame him for being pissed | 21:48 |
| oskude | coz_, i want to create "actors" that i can move and fade and such, but thanks | 21:48 |
| coz_ | oskude, ok gotcha.... let me know if you succeed with that :) | 21:48 |
| oskude | coz_, will do :) ill try to dig some more info about xsplash | 21:49 |
| coz_ | oskude, not much out there at this point as far as I know | 21:49 |
| \vish | oskude: gud luck ;) | 21:49 |
| coz_ | oskude, that blog is about it :) | 21:49 |
| oskude | and yet it's version 0.8.5 :/ | 21:49 |
| oskude | even README file is empty :( | 21:49 |
| \vish | lol... | 21:49 |
| coz_ | :) | 21:49 |
| oskude | or 1.0 is thought as a first release... | 21:51 |
| \vish | oskude: right now , afaik , its just tweaked to do the frames and stuff , but since we can use X , anything is possible/probable | 21:52 |
| oskude | \vish, roger | 21:52 |
| oskude | so we could add clutter to it, yay! | 21:52 |
| oskude | im sold! ;P | 21:52 |
| * oskude wonders how early we can start X | 22:14 | |
| oskude | which mailings would be appropriate to ask questions about this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience | 22:22 |
| oskude | *mailing list | 22:22 |
| * oskude goes to bed. gn8 | 22:42 | |
| darkmatter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjjHpEpEaM | 22:49 |
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