[18:04] hiya [18:05] Is there a way to theme a single gtk window [18:13] jaapz: you can specifically theme an app [18:13] or a part of an app [18:14] DanRabbit, but how [18:14] jaapz: well, you need to understand how GTKRC works. [18:15] when you're creating those styles, you're doing two things [18:16] first, you're defining a style [18:16] then, you're pointing out widgets or widgets classes and them telling them what style to use [18:16] DanRabbit, do you know a tutorial? [18:17] Aldo Zenzo had one, but it got messed up >.< [18:17] some kind of weird data loss issue [18:17] :P [18:17] Well that sucks [18:18] jaapz: this is a line from my gtkrc that styles Midori Browser [18:18] widget "MidoriBrowser.GtkVBox.GtkHPaned.GtkVPaned.GtkNotebook" style "midori-notebook" [18:18] I'm saying "Hey this is a widget" [18:18] Then the following nonsense is a hierarchy [18:18] This widget lives here [18:19] <\vish> jaapz: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes , give it a shot , and also have a look at the gtkrc at other themes , will give you a good idea :) [18:20] OKay, so the widget is a notebook inside "GtkVPaned" inside "GtkHPaned" inside "GtkVBox" inside the app "MidoriBrowser" [18:20] <\vish> gtkrc of* other themes [18:20] DanRabbit, i dont understand a word you saying XD [18:20] \vish, ill look into that, thanks [18:20] ah... [18:20] sorry :p [18:21] <\vish> jaapz: [18:21] <\vish> oops! [18:21] :P [20:43] hi, what do you think ? http://osku.de/post/plymouth_space-sunrise_ubuntu.ogv (sources: http://gitorious.org/oskude-plymouth-themes/space-sunrise/commits/ubuntu) [20:44] oskude, this is for xplash animation? [20:45] plymouth [20:45] oh ok I havent tried plymouth [20:45] pretty nifty! i just followed this: http://brej.org/blog/?p=174 [20:45] oskude: i like the start, but the black ubuntu logo eclipsing the light sends a very dark message [20:46] its a ubuntu monolith! its full of stars! ;P [20:46] but yeah, its a thing i made in few mins [20:46] not including the "base" thing (master branch) [20:46] oskude: you could try to turn the start itself into a ubuntu logo [20:46] <\vish> oskude: stars/space screams OSX... sun rays fedora.. ;) [20:47] ubuntu sun :) [20:47] if i learn how to draw (in inkscape) nice lenslfares, i gotta test that too :) [20:47] yeah i would turn the "while" halo into ubuntu orange colours with the sun the actual ubuntu logo ? [20:48] \vish: yeah, a little scarabeus rolling a dung ball that then turns into the CoC would be more fitting, eh? ;) [20:48] coz_, follow the tutorial to get plymouth dev system, get that space-sunrise ubuntu branch, follow the readme, should be easy [20:48] ok thanks guy [20:49] not really interested in plymouth at this point though.... still working on xsplash animations :) [20:49] <\vish> hehe ;) [20:49] oh [20:49] i thought next ubuntu uses plymouth ? [20:49] <\vish> coz_: lucid is plymouth _ xsplash [20:50] <\vish> s/_/+ [20:50] oh [20:50] \vish, mm I have lucid installed and it is using xplash animations right now [20:50] didn't you listen, coz_ is not interested!! [20:50] * oskude goes check what is xplash [20:50] <\vish> coz_: starting is plymouth :) , it is used instead of usplash [20:50] thorwil, well at least at this point... I dont see plymouth in lucid on my one machine as of yet [20:51] \vish, nope it is using xplash here and its up to date although I will have t check to be sure hold on [20:51] <\vish> coz_: do you have libplymouth2 installed? [20:52] anyone got a link to xplash homepage ? google is not helping me... [20:52] \vish, that is not in lucid repos as of yet at least on t his system [20:53] oskude, I dont... I do have a link talking about how to create the animations hold on [20:53] <\vish> coz_: interesting... what is the graphics card? [20:53] \vish, nvidia [20:53] coz_, that would be even better! :) [20:53] oskude, http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/12/customizing-x-splash.html [20:54] <\vish> oskude: xsplash is new canonical experimental stuff... so that blog is the best shot ;) [20:54] <\vish> no homepage yet [20:54] roger, thanks \vish coz_ [20:54] although creating a 50 frame minimum animation is a pain in the butt [20:55] so xplash uses opengl ? === \vish is now known as mac_v === mac_v is now known as \vish [20:56] oskude,I am not sure... but I dont think so I could be wrong [20:59] coz_, hmm, that tutorial you gave me, is that all xplash can ? [21:00] "play a video" [21:00] oskude, well what it does is have a small area animated during boot sequence but it can be more complex than that let me find another video [21:00] oskude, if you scroll down here http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/search/label/*buntu you can see troy's take on the boot sequence] [21:01] i did that ubuntu plymouth thing with this: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth/Scripts [21:02] oskude, also here http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubuntu+boot+animation&search_type=&aq=f is a list of attemtps with xplash animations [21:02] nice! if thats opengl and not video [21:03] oskude, all I know at this point is that it is a 50 or + frame animation in a single png file [21:04] yup, must be opengl, what also means x is already running, AFAIK [21:04] so plymouth comes before xsplash, if i understand correctly [21:05] <\vish> yup [21:05] I believe so [21:05] I wouldnt mind a bit of animation prior to xsplash [21:06] and i want opengl as computer starts! :) [21:06] <\vish> oskude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIBD4lRJS0Y [21:07] <\vish> thats what they are trying to do as of now :) with plymouth and X [21:08] * \vish wonders how they would figure out which frame plymouth stopped , to start the xsplash animation o.0 [21:09] mmm a bit of a frame drop [21:09] from one to the other [21:10] so what is next ubuntu gonna use, plymouth alone, or plymouth + xsplash ? [21:10] oskude, I am not sure I know right now lucid is not using plymouth at all [21:10] oskude, it is using xplash [21:11] and before X ? also xsplash ? [21:11] oskude, no just black [21:11] k [21:11] <\vish> actually the plan is to use plymouth+xsplash ... wonder how coz_ is special :D [21:12] \vish, special? [21:12] <\vish> coz_: i'm not sure why plymouth isnt in your system... maybe nvidia is able to start X very early [21:13] \vish, I am not sure either ..just did update on the lucid system and still libplymoouth is not in the repo [21:13] \vish, roger. hows the visual transition from plymouth to xplash ? is it flicker free, can it fade ? [21:13] <\vish> coz_: is usplash installed for you? [21:14] I would assume let me check [21:14] <\vish> oskude: its still experimental , so only the in-house design team knows more about it [21:14] \vish, yeah libusplash is there [21:14] \vish, and do they hangout here ? [21:14] <\vish> coz_: for me , updates removed usplash and installed libplymouth o.0 [21:15] \vish, thats interesting... mmm I better check my repos just incase :) [21:15] coz_, did you do dist-upgrade or upgrade ? [21:15] just quessign [21:16] <\vish> oskude: today is sunday , they would probably return from vacation tomorrow... kwwii is one of the design team.. also mat_t [21:16] oskude, dist-upgrade when I use terminal [21:16] \vish, roger [21:16] coz_, roger. then at leas i would except you get the lates stuff [21:17] coz_, and you did update too (just to be complete) [21:18] oskude, :) yes I did.... still no libplymouth though [21:18] \vish, could i see your sources.list ? [21:18] coz_, cant help more, i use 9.10 [21:18] * \vish did a clean install [21:18] oskude, I am on 9.10 here but the lucid box is on the other desk:) [21:19] \vish, same here but I can download the current cd and reinstall [21:19] <\vish> coz_: hmm , i see libusplash too , but > Commit Log for Wed Dec 16 12:55:50 2009 [21:19] <\vish> Removed the following packages: [21:19] <\vish> usplash [21:19] <\vish> usplash-theme-ubuntu [21:20] maybe mirror still out of sync ? [21:20] \vish, ok then I will download current cd and reinstall clean again.... [21:20] repo mirror [21:21] I will try this a bit later then .... I am sure libplymouth will show up at that point. [21:28] <\vish> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience [21:29] xsplash-0.8.5 README file empty... [21:30] <\vish> coz_: you had me confused for a min :D ... then i found the wiki^ ;) [21:37] \vish, thanks :) [21:37] \vish, I am sure it is my install ... as I said I will just clean install from current cd [21:38] <\vish> coz_: hehe , i guess its part of the fun of using an alpha :) [21:38] \vish, for sure :) [21:38] \vish, we are at alpha 1 right now? [21:38] <\vish> yup [21:39] so this would be possible with xsplash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDPZDv4Bvg using openql ? or would it play frames ? (images) [21:41] as i cant any technical info about xsplash :/ [21:41] oskude, mm that looks more like plymouth [21:42] coz_, it's supposed to be a mockup for xsplash [21:42] well, i assume xsplash uses opengl [21:42] oskude, mm I am not sure ...as I said right now I am stuggling just understanding the current set up for xplash animations and so far they are fairly small ...but I assume they could be full screen [21:43] oskude, example idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LAG27baEU [21:44] <\vish> coz_: Mads , usually does his mockups in illustrator using after effects or something... [21:44] must be opengl, i wonder if even clutter project [21:44] hello [21:44] \vish, did you see troy's animation for this? [21:44] sad that there is so less info about xsplash, looks awesome! [21:45] <\vish> coz_: the one with the notify-osd? [21:45] \vish, yeah I believe [21:45] so [21:45] <\vish> zniavre: hi... [21:45] oskude, I have examples here and the imagemagick command to put all of the animation cells into single png format but that is all on that link I gave you also :) [21:46] actually I deleted all of my examples :( [21:46] im trying nautilus with split view > does it included into lucid ? [21:46] <\vish> oskude: even with frames we can get the same effect [21:46] <\vish> zniavre: not yet [21:46] ok [21:47] <\vish> coz_: its interesting... but seems no one from the design team wants to do it... hence troy got even more pissed i guess ;p [21:47] \vish, but then it wont be cool (from technical point) ;P [21:48] \vish, yeah I know .. I had suggested that sequence several times with absolutely no response [21:48] \vish, I dont blame him for being pissed [21:48] coz_, i want to create "actors" that i can move and fade and such, but thanks [21:48] oskude, ok gotcha.... let me know if you succeed with that :) [21:49] coz_, will do :) ill try to dig some more info about xsplash [21:49] oskude, not much out there at this point as far as I know [21:49] <\vish> oskude: gud luck ;) [21:49] oskude, that blog is about it :) [21:49] and yet it's version 0.8.5 :/ [21:49] even README file is empty :( [21:49] <\vish> lol... [21:49] :) [21:51] or 1.0 is thought as a first release... [21:52] <\vish> oskude: right now , afaik , its just tweaked to do the frames and stuff , but since we can use X , anything is possible/probable [21:52] \vish, roger [21:52] so we could add clutter to it, yay! [21:52] im sold! ;P [22:14] * oskude wonders how early we can start X [22:22] which mailings would be appropriate to ask questions about this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience [22:22] *mailing list [22:42] * oskude goes to bed. gn8 [22:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjjHpEpEaM