[18:04] <jaapz> hiya
[18:05] <jaapz> Is there a way to theme a single gtk window
[18:13] <DanRabbit> jaapz: you can specifically theme an app
[18:13] <DanRabbit> or a part of an app
[18:14] <jaapz> DanRabbit, but how
[18:14] <DanRabbit> jaapz: well, you need to understand how GTKRC works.
[18:15] <DanRabbit> when you're creating those styles, you're doing two things
[18:16] <DanRabbit> first, you're defining a style
[18:16] <DanRabbit> then, you're pointing out widgets or widgets classes and them telling them what style to use
[18:16] <jaapz> DanRabbit, do you know a tutorial?
[18:17] <DanRabbit> Aldo Zenzo had one, but it got messed up >.<
[18:17] <DanRabbit> some kind of weird data loss issue
[18:17] <jaapz> :P
[18:17] <jaapz> Well that sucks
[18:18] <DanRabbit> jaapz: this is a line from my gtkrc that styles Midori Browser
[18:18] <DanRabbit> widget		"MidoriBrowser.GtkVBox.GtkHPaned.GtkVPaned.GtkNotebook"		style "midori-notebook"
[18:18] <DanRabbit> I'm saying "Hey this is a widget"
[18:18] <DanRabbit> Then the following nonsense is a hierarchy
[18:18] <DanRabbit> This widget lives here
[18:19] <\vish> jaapz: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes , give it a shot  , and also have a look at the gtkrc at other themes , will give you a good idea :)
[18:20] <DanRabbit> OKay, so the widget is a notebook inside "GtkVPaned" inside "GtkHPaned" inside "GtkVBox" inside the app "MidoriBrowser"
[18:20] <\vish>  gtkrc of* other themes
[18:20] <jaapz> DanRabbit, i dont understand a word you saying XD
[18:20] <jaapz> \vish, ill look into that, thanks
[18:20] <DanRabbit> ah...
[18:20] <DanRabbit> sorry :p
[18:21] <\vish> jaapz:
[18:21] <\vish> oops!
[18:21] <jaapz> :P
[20:43] <oskude> hi, what do you think ? http://osku.de/post/plymouth_space-sunrise_ubuntu.ogv (sources: http://gitorious.org/oskude-plymouth-themes/space-sunrise/commits/ubuntu)
[20:44] <coz_> oskude,  this is for xplash animation?
[20:45] <oskude> plymouth
[20:45] <coz_> oh ok    I havent tried plymouth
[20:45] <oskude> pretty nifty! i just followed this: http://brej.org/blog/?p=174
[20:45] <thorwil> oskude: i like the start, but the black ubuntu logo eclipsing the light sends a very dark message
[20:46] <oskude> its a ubuntu monolith! its full of stars! ;P
[20:46] <oskude> but yeah, its a thing i made in few mins
[20:46] <oskude> not including the "base" thing (master branch)
[20:46] <thorwil> oskude: you could try to turn the start itself into a ubuntu logo
[20:46] <\vish> oskude: stars/space screams OSX... sun rays fedora.. ;)
[20:47] <coz_> ubuntu sun :)
[20:47] <oskude> if i learn how to draw (in inkscape) nice lenslfares, i gotta test that too :)
[20:47] <coz_> yeah i would turn the   "while" halo  into ubuntu orange colours with the sun the actual ubuntu logo  ?
[20:48] <thorwil> \vish: yeah, a little scarabeus rolling a dung ball that then turns into the CoC would be more fitting, eh? ;)
[20:48] <oskude> coz_, follow the tutorial to get plymouth dev system, get that space-sunrise ubuntu branch, follow the readme, should be easy
[20:48] <coz_> ok thanks guy
[20:49] <coz_> not really interested in  plymouth at this point though.... still working on xsplash animations :)
[20:49] <\vish> hehe ;)
[20:49] <oskude> oh
[20:49] <oskude> i thought next ubuntu uses plymouth ?
[20:49] <\vish> coz_: lucid is plymouth _ xsplash
[20:50] <\vish> s/_/+
[20:50] <oskude> oh
[20:50] <coz_> \vish,  mm I have lucid installed and it is using xplash animations right now
[20:50] <thorwil> didn't you listen, coz_ is not interested!!
[20:50]  * oskude goes check what is xplash
[20:50] <\vish> coz_: starting is plymouth :)  , it is used instead of usplash
[20:50] <coz_> thorwil,  well at least at this point... I dont see plymouth in lucid on my one machine as of yet
[20:51] <coz_> \vish,  nope  it is using xplash here and its up to date  although I will have t check to be sure    hold on
[20:51] <\vish> coz_: do you have libplymouth2 installed?
[20:52] <oskude> anyone got a link to xplash homepage ? google is not helping me...
[20:52] <coz_> \vish,  that is not in lucid repos  as of yet at least on t his system
[20:53] <coz_> oskude,  I dont... I do have a link talking about how to create the animations hold on
[20:53] <\vish> coz_: interesting... what is the graphics card?
[20:53] <coz_> \vish,  nvidia
[20:53] <oskude> coz_, that would be even better! :)
[20:53] <coz_> oskude,    http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/12/customizing-x-splash.html
[20:54] <\vish> oskude: xsplash is new canonical experimental stuff... so that blog is the best shot ;)
[20:54] <\vish> no homepage yet
[20:54] <oskude> roger, thanks \vish coz_
[20:54] <coz_> although creating a 50 frame minimum animation  is a pain in the butt
[20:55] <oskude> so xplash uses opengl ?
[20:56] <coz_> oskude,I am not sure... but I dont think so   I could be wrong
[20:59] <oskude> coz_, hmm, that tutorial you gave me, is that all xplash can ?
[21:00] <oskude> "play a video"
[21:00] <coz_> oskude,  well  what it does is have a small area animated during boot sequence  but  it can be more complex than that let me find another video
[21:00] <coz_> oskude,  if you scroll down here   http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/search/label/*buntu   you can see troy's take on the boot sequence]
[21:01] <oskude> i did that ubuntu plymouth thing with this: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth/Scripts
[21:02] <coz_> oskude, also here   http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubuntu+boot+animation&search_type=&aq=f    is a list of attemtps with xplash animations
[21:02] <oskude> nice! if thats opengl and not video
[21:03] <coz_> oskude,  all I know at this point is that it is a 50 or +  frame animation in a single png file
[21:04] <oskude> yup, must be opengl, what also means x is already running, AFAIK
[21:04] <oskude> so plymouth comes before xsplash, if i understand correctly
[21:05] <\vish> yup
[21:05] <coz_> I believe so
[21:05] <coz_> I wouldnt mind a bit of animation prior to xsplash
[21:06] <oskude> and i want opengl as computer starts! :)
[21:06] <\vish> oskude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIBD4lRJS0Y
[21:07] <\vish> thats what they are trying to do as of now :) with plymouth and X
[21:08]  * \vish wonders how they would figure out which frame plymouth stopped , to start the xsplash animation o.0
[21:09] <coz_> mmm a bit of a frame drop
[21:09] <coz_> from one to the other
[21:10] <oskude> so what is next ubuntu gonna use, plymouth alone, or plymouth + xsplash ?
[21:10] <coz_> oskude,  I am not sure   I know right now lucid is not using plymouth at all
[21:10] <coz_> oskude,  it is using xplash
[21:11] <oskude> and before X ? also xsplash ?
[21:11] <coz_> oskude,  no just black
[21:11] <oskude> k
[21:11] <\vish> actually the plan is to use plymouth+xsplash ... wonder how coz_ is special :D
[21:12] <coz_> \vish,  special?
[21:12] <\vish> coz_: i'm not sure why plymouth isnt in your system... maybe nvidia is able to start X very early
[21:13] <coz_> \vish,   I am not sure either ..just did update on the lucid system and still libplymoouth is not in the repo
[21:13] <oskude> \vish, roger. hows the visual transition from plymouth to xplash ? is it flicker free, can it fade ?
[21:13] <\vish> coz_: is usplash installed for you?
[21:14] <coz_> I would assume let me check
[21:14] <\vish> oskude: its still experimental , so only the in-house design team knows more about it
[21:14] <coz_> \vish,  yeah libusplash is there
[21:14] <oskude> \vish, and do they hangout here ?
[21:14] <\vish> coz_: for me , updates removed usplash and installed libplymouth o.0
[21:15] <coz_> \vish,  thats interesting... mmm I better check my repos just incase :)
[21:15] <oskude> coz_, did you do dist-upgrade or upgrade ?
[21:15] <oskude> just quessign
[21:16] <\vish> oskude: today is sunday , they would probably return from vacation tomorrow... kwwii is one of the design team.. also mat_t
[21:16] <coz_> oskude,   dist-upgrade   when I use terminal
[21:16] <oskude> \vish, roger
[21:16] <oskude> coz_, roger. then at leas i would except you get the lates stuff
[21:17] <oskude> coz_, and you did update too (just to be complete)
[21:18] <coz_> oskude,  :) yes I did.... still no libplymouth though
[21:18] <coz_> \vish,  could i see your sources.list ?
[21:18] <oskude> coz_, cant help more, i use 9.10
[21:18]  * \vish did a clean install
[21:18] <coz_> oskude,  I am on 9.10  here  but the lucid box is on the other desk:)
[21:19] <coz_> \vish,   same here  but I can download the current  cd and reinstall
[21:19] <\vish> coz_: hmm , i see libusplash too , but > Commit Log for Wed Dec 16 12:55:50 2009
[21:19] <\vish> Removed the following packages:
[21:19] <\vish> usplash
[21:19] <\vish> usplash-theme-ubuntu
[21:20] <oskude> maybe mirror still out of sync ?
[21:20] <coz_> \vish,  ok then  I will download current cd and reinstall clean again....
[21:20] <oskude> repo mirror
[21:21] <coz_> I will try this a bit later  then ....  I am sure libplymouth will show up at that point.
[21:28] <\vish> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience
[21:29] <oskude> xsplash-0.8.5 README file empty...
[21:30] <\vish> coz_: you had me confused for a min :D ... then i found the wiki^ ;)
[21:37] <coz_> \vish,  thanks :)
[21:37] <coz_> \vish,  I am sure  it is my install    ... as I said I will just clean install from current cd
[21:38] <\vish> coz_: hehe , i guess its part of the fun of using an alpha :)
[21:38] <coz_> \vish,  for sure :)
[21:38] <coz_> \vish,  we are at alpha 1 right now?
[21:38] <\vish> yup
[21:39] <oskude> so this would be possible with xsplash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDPZDv4Bvg using openql ? or would it play frames ? (images)
[21:41] <oskude> as i cant any technical info about xsplash :/
[21:41] <coz_> oskude,  mm that looks more like plymouth
[21:42] <oskude> coz_, it's supposed to be a mockup for xsplash
[21:42] <oskude> well, i assume xsplash uses opengl
[21:42] <coz_> oskude,  mm   I am not sure ...as I said right now I am stuggling just understanding the current set up for xplash animations and so far they are fairly small  ...but I assume they could be full screen
[21:43] <coz_> oskude,   example  idea   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LAG27baEU
[21:44] <\vish> coz_: Mads , usually does his mockups in illustrator using after effects or something...
[21:44] <oskude> must be opengl, i wonder if even clutter project
[21:44] <zniavre> hello
[21:44] <coz_> \vish,  did you see troy's  animation for this?
[21:44] <oskude> sad that there is so less info about xsplash, looks awesome!
[21:45] <\vish> coz_: the one with the notify-osd?
[21:45] <coz_> \vish,  yeah I believe
[21:45] <coz_> so
[21:45] <\vish> zniavre: hi...
[21:45] <coz_> oskude,   I have examples here and the imagemagick command to put all of the animation cells into single png format but that is all on that link I gave you also :)
[21:46] <coz_> actually I deleted all of my examples  :(
[21:46] <zniavre> im trying nautilus with split view > does it included into lucid ?
[21:46] <\vish> oskude: even with frames we can get the same effect
[21:46] <\vish> zniavre: not yet
[21:46] <zniavre> ok
[21:47] <\vish> coz_: its interesting... but seems no one from the design team wants to do it... hence troy got even more pissed i guess ;p
[21:47] <oskude> \vish, but then it wont be cool (from technical point) ;P
[21:48] <coz_> \vish,  yeah I know .. I had suggested that sequence several times with absolutely no response
[21:48] <coz_> \vish,  I dont blame him for being pissed
[21:48] <oskude> coz_, i want to create "actors" that i can move and fade and such, but thanks
[21:48] <coz_> oskude,  ok gotcha.... let me know if you succeed with that :)
[21:49] <oskude> coz_, will do :) ill try to dig some more info about xsplash
[21:49] <coz_> oskude,  not much out there at this point as far as I know
[21:49] <\vish> oskude: gud luck ;)
[21:49] <coz_> oskude,   that blog is about it  :)
[21:49] <oskude> and yet it's version 0.8.5 :/
[21:49] <oskude> even README file is empty :(
[21:49] <\vish> lol...
[21:49] <coz_> :)
[21:51] <oskude> or 1.0 is thought as a first release...
[21:52] <\vish> oskude: right now , afaik , its just tweaked to do the frames and stuff , but since we can use X  , anything is possible/probable
[21:52] <oskude> \vish, roger
[21:52] <oskude> so we could add clutter to it, yay!
[21:52] <oskude> im sold! ;P
[22:14]  * oskude wonders how early we can start X
[22:22] <oskude> which mailings would be appropriate to ask questions about this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/LucidBootExperience
[22:22] <oskude> *mailing list
[22:42]  * oskude goes to bed. gn8
[22:49] <darkmatter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjjHpEpEaM