Phelashio | hi ogra | 01:54 |
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alkisg | Edubuntu now has HAL on the DVD, is it also a target for us not to have HAL in Lucid? | 12:43 |
ogra | what for would you use it ? | 12:44 |
alkisg | ogra: hi - happy new year. I don't want to use it - I'm just saying that maybe we should be looking at the seeds to see what program pulls is in the DVD, so that maybe we remove or update that program... | 12:46 |
alkisg | *pulls it | 12:46 |
ogra | well, indeed | 12:46 |
ogra | happy new year as well :) | 12:46 |
alkisg | ogra: do you know if kubuntu lucid will ship without hal? | 12:48 |
ogra | yes, it should | 12:48 |
ogra | xorg doesnt use hal anymore | 12:48 |
ogra | xinput was the only thing that kept it on the CD to my knowledge | 12:48 |
alkisg | OK, then we'd better look at the edubuntu seeds as well. | 12:50 |
ogra | yup | 12:51 |
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sbalneav | Morning all | 14:43 |
sbalneav | I've got this email, someone named dhillon-v10 would like to join the bugsquad | 14:44 |
highvolt1ge | morning sbalneav | 15:26 |
sbalneav | highvolt1ge: hey there | 15:30 |
sbalneav | so, what's the process for adding someone to bugsquad? Do we just do it, or do we have to vote on it? | 15:31 |
highvolt1ge | sbalneav: just do it | 15:46 |
* ogra always just added people unless it was for the -members team | 15:47 | |
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highvoltage | right, atm the only ones we have to vote for is -members, and then when the developers group is set up for uploads in the archive re-org we'll vote for those members as well | 15:48 |
highvoltage | but for the other groups it doesn't do any harm adding random people. | 15:49 |
sbalneav | ok, I'll add him then. | 15:52 |
sbalneav | If it's alright with everyone, I'll sort of "take ownership" of managing the edubuntu-bugsquad (approving members, etc.) | 15:55 |
ogra | oh | 15:57 |
HedgeMage | Hi, all | 15:57 |
ogra | i'm still admin there | 15:57 |
* ogra fixes that | 15:57 | |
HedgeMage | highvoltage: any luck so far getting set up to grab the edubuntu Drupal stuff? | 15:58 |
alkisg | stgraber: I'd like to include some patches to iTalc, like e.g. the reboot/shutdown one (LP #367960), would it be appropriate if I uploaded them to https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa ? (so that we start using that ppa, like it was said on the list some time ago...) | 16:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 367960 in italc ""power down" request fails on 9.04; logout instead" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367960 | 16:07 |
highvoltage | HedgeMage: not that I've tried that hard yet, but no. I'll get on it now | 16:07 |
highvoltage | HedgeMage: I'm not sure how other people would feel about it, but I quite like a textured look like the first image on http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/6-nice-xsplash-themes-for-ubuntu-karmic.html | 16:08 |
HedgeMage | highvoltage: I do think the texture is pretty, I'm just not sure how we'd make it work with a very light or predominantly light backgrounded theme. | 16:16 |
HedgeMage | brb dogwalk | 16:16 |
alkisg | Ugh that page loads slllloooowly on ltsp clients... :( | 16:18 |
highvoltage | HedgeMage: I'll have those tarballs for you ready in a few mins | 16:18 |
sbalneav | alkisg: that page is loading sloooowly on a full workstation for me :) | 16:19 |
alkisg | Ah, ok then :) | 16:19 |
HedgeMage | highvoltage: awesome -- I'll see if I can mess with them in any downtime I have today. | 16:19 |
sbalneav | I think the 50,000 social networking icons on the side kills it. | 16:20 |
highvoltage | sbalneav: ok, I promise we'll keep it on 49999 or lower | 16:27 |
* sbalneav resists from making an "iiiitts oooover 9000!!!!!" joke | 16:29 | |
HedgeMage | lol | 16:37 |
highvoltage | sbalneav: heh, yes not the completely right place for that | 16:40 |
highvoltage | HedgeMage: busy uploading to somewhere you can get it, it's ~95MB and my internet connection only has 512kbps up, so it will take a few minutes, I'll ping you when it's done | 16:42 |
HedgeMage | highvoltage: np, I'm in no rush | 16:44 |
HedgeMage | Wow, that's funny...I hacked up a little Drupal module last night to get identi.ca group stuff into activitystream (which previously supported users but not groups), and mentioned it on identi.ca -- it isn't even on drupal.org yet and apparently three people are using it. | 16:55 |
highvoltage | HedgeMage: awesome, I'd love seeing that on the edubuntu site | 16:58 |
HedgeMage | highvoltage: np! | 17:04 |
sbalneav | What's the apt or dpkg magic again that shows what packages DEPEND on a package? | 17:28 |
sbalneav | i.e. I'd like to find which packages depend on libssh2-1 | 17:28 |
sbalneav | i.e. to find out who's using it. | 17:28 |
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dgroos | Hi All | 21:05 |
dgroos | I hope that the many who had holidays recently... | 21:06 |
dgroos | had a great one. | 21:06 |
dgroos | I want to do a fresh Karmic Edubuntu install. Is there a way to install it from a CD? My server doesn't do DVD's, I don't think... | 21:08 |
dgroos | Do I just install Ubuntu Server and then click a bunch of add ons? | 21:09 |
sbalneav | dgroos: usb dvd drive? :) | 21:10 |
dgroos | The server doesn't boot from USB, I tried that a while back. | 21:11 |
dgroos | at least with a usb flash drive... same diff? | 21:11 |
alkisg | dgroos: you can either boot from a cd and "chainload" to dvd, or you can try a script I made just for this purpose | 21:12 |
dgroos | PS congrats on the new flashy membership! | 21:12 |
alkisg | If you have a second pc handy nearby, you boot this pc with the edubuntu dvd, and the script automatically shares it on the network for the server to boot from it | 21:12 |
dgroos | alkisg: I should have guessed you had a script for just such a situation :D | 21:13 |
dgroos | and congrats to you as well! | 21:13 |
alkisg | dgroos: here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot#line-75 | 21:13 |
alkisg | You just run it, and you must have a dhcp server nearby (e.g. a router) - nothing else should be needed... | 21:14 |
sbalneav | perfect. | 21:15 |
dgroos | So, can I connect both the new-to-be-server and the PC-with-the-dvd-in-it-and-the-script-running on the same network that is running my thin clients? | 21:15 |
alkisg | dgroos: hmmm no, better not, because then you'll have 2 boot servers | 21:17 |
alkisg | E.g. then the thin clients might start with the edubuntu live cd, or the server might start as a thin client :D | 21:18 |
alkisg | But if you can temporarily remove the filename directive from dhcpd.conf, then it'll surely work | 21:18 |
dgroos | To do this I would open dhcpd.conf and temporarily remove which? | 21:19 |
alkisg | # if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { | 21:20 |
alkisg | # filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; | 21:20 |
alkisg | # } else { | 21:20 |
alkisg | # filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; | 21:20 |
alkisg | # } | 21:20 |
alkisg | i.e. put # in front of those, and run: sudo service dhcp3-server force-reload | 21:20 |
dgroos | Will do. | 21:21 |
alkisg | dgroos: but if you don't have anyone working on the thin clients ATM, you can also try it without modifying anything - it might work | 21:21 |
alkisg | (i'm not sure if proxydhcp takes precedence over plain dhcp for the filename part) | 21:21 |
dgroos | alkisg: I'm looking over the above reference page and see the section called, "Automation script". So... can I pretty much ignore the rest of the page (quite a few parts I'm not sure what they mean)? | 21:32 |
alkisg | dgroos: right, ignore all of the rest of the page :) | 21:32 |
dgroos | :D! | 21:32 |
dgroos | Thanks, I think I can do this then! Thanks for sharing your creations on the wiki and here on the irc! | 21:33 |
dgroos | I'll be getting here pretty early tomorrow morning... I'll let you know how it goes. | 21:34 |
alkisg | Nice, I hope it helps | 21:34 |
sbalneav | alkisg: So, excited? | 21:46 |
alkisg | About the libpam-ssh? Sure! | 21:46 |
alkisg | Not for the ltsp part - the "user observed" functionality will remain the same there | 21:47 |
sbalneav | No, it'll improve | 21:47 |
sbalneav | no more crappy password handling | 21:47 |
alkisg | But for non-ltsp labs, it'll make user administration as effortless as it is in ltsp labs... | 21:47 |
sbalneav | i.e. if you type the password wrong, we can actually ASK for it again :) | 21:48 |
alkisg | That isn't observed by the user - except for the case when he types his password wrong... | 21:48 |
alkisg | Much cleaner, but for the teacher/sysadmin it isn't really important | 21:48 |
alkisg | While simplifying user administration in non-ltsp labs, is very important ;) | 21:49 |
sbalneav | Oh, well, all the really deep magic never makes an impact on the end user. | 21:50 |
sbalneav | the whole goal of ltsp was to make it indistinguishable from a full fledged desktop as much as possible :) | 21:50 |
alkisg | It'll make it also easier for fat clients... :) | 21:51 |
sbalneav | yep | 21:52 |
highvoltage | fp | 22:01 |
sbalneav | FrontPage? | 22:02 |
alkisg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP | 22:03 |
highvoltage | First post :) | 22:05 |
highvoltage | it was meant for another channel | 22:05 |
highvoltage | in one of my local channels we have a meme to see who can get first post of every day | 22:05 |
sbalneav | Ah | 22:13 |
sbalneav | I believe it's | 22:13 |
sbalneav | "FRIST POST!!!!!11111oneone" | 22:14 |
sbalneav | :) | 22:14 |
highvoltage | yeah if there's enough time to type it out | 22:14 |
* alkisg is in the same timezone with highvoltage :) | 22:14 | |
highvoltage | if there is I usually include a cos(0) somewhere in there to | 22:14 |
highvoltage | *too | 22:14 |
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