[01:54] hi ogra === Ahmuck-Jr__ is now known as Ahmuck-Jr [12:43] Edubuntu now has HAL on the DVD, is it also a target for us not to have HAL in Lucid? [12:44] what for would you use it ? [12:46] ogra: hi - happy new year. I don't want to use it - I'm just saying that maybe we should be looking at the seeds to see what program pulls is in the DVD, so that maybe we remove or update that program... [12:46] *pulls it [12:46] well, indeed [12:46] happy new year as well :) [12:48] ogra: do you know if kubuntu lucid will ship without hal? [12:48] yes, it should [12:48] xorg doesnt use hal anymore [12:48] xinput was the only thing that kept it on the CD to my knowledge [12:50] OK, then we'd better look at the edubuntu seeds as well. [12:51] yup === mhall1191work is now known as mhall119|work [14:43] Morning all [14:44] I've got this email, someone named dhillon-v10 would like to join the bugsquad [15:26] morning sbalneav [15:30] highvolt1ge: hey there [15:31] so, what's the process for adding someone to bugsquad? Do we just do it, or do we have to vote on it? [15:46] sbalneav: just do it [15:47] * ogra always just added people unless it was for the -members team === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [15:48] right, atm the only ones we have to vote for is -members, and then when the developers group is set up for uploads in the archive re-org we'll vote for those members as well [15:49] but for the other groups it doesn't do any harm adding random people. [15:52] ok, I'll add him then. [15:55] If it's alright with everyone, I'll sort of "take ownership" of managing the edubuntu-bugsquad (approving members, etc.) [15:57] oh [15:57] Hi, all [15:57] i'm still admin there [15:57] * ogra fixes that [15:58] highvoltage: any luck so far getting set up to grab the edubuntu Drupal stuff? [16:07] stgraber: I'd like to include some patches to iTalc, like e.g. the reboot/shutdown one (LP #367960), would it be appropriate if I uploaded them to https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa ? (so that we start using that ppa, like it was said on the list some time ago...) [16:07] Launchpad bug 367960 in italc ""power down" request fails on 9.04; logout instead" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367960 [16:07] HedgeMage: not that I've tried that hard yet, but no. I'll get on it now [16:08] HedgeMage: I'm not sure how other people would feel about it, but I quite like a textured look like the first image on http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/6-nice-xsplash-themes-for-ubuntu-karmic.html [16:16] highvoltage: I do think the texture is pretty, I'm just not sure how we'd make it work with a very light or predominantly light backgrounded theme. [16:16] brb dogwalk [16:18] Ugh that page loads slllloooowly on ltsp clients... :( [16:18] HedgeMage: I'll have those tarballs for you ready in a few mins [16:19] alkisg: that page is loading sloooowly on a full workstation for me :) [16:19] Ah, ok then :) [16:19] highvoltage: awesome -- I'll see if I can mess with them in any downtime I have today. [16:20] I think the 50,000 social networking icons on the side kills it. [16:27] sbalneav: ok, I promise we'll keep it on 49999 or lower [16:29] * sbalneav resists from making an "iiiitts oooover 9000!!!!!" joke [16:37] lol [16:40] sbalneav: heh, yes not the completely right place for that [16:42] HedgeMage: busy uploading to somewhere you can get it, it's ~95MB and my internet connection only has 512kbps up, so it will take a few minutes, I'll ping you when it's done [16:44] highvoltage: np, I'm in no rush [16:55] Wow, that's funny...I hacked up a little Drupal module last night to get identi.ca group stuff into activitystream (which previously supported users but not groups), and mentioned it on identi.ca -- it isn't even on drupal.org yet and apparently three people are using it. [16:58] HedgeMage: awesome, I'd love seeing that on the edubuntu site [17:04] highvoltage: np! [17:28] What's the apt or dpkg magic again that shows what packages DEPEND on a package? [17:28] i.e. I'd like to find which packages depend on libssh2-1 [17:28] i.e. to find out who's using it. === blue-frog_ is now known as blue-frog [21:05] Hi All [21:06] I hope that the many who had holidays recently... [21:06] had a great one. [21:08] I want to do a fresh Karmic Edubuntu install. Is there a way to install it from a CD? My server doesn't do DVD's, I don't think... [21:09] Do I just install Ubuntu Server and then click a bunch of add ons? [21:10] dgroos: usb dvd drive? :) [21:11] The server doesn't boot from USB, I tried that a while back. [21:11] at least with a usb flash drive... same diff? [21:12] dgroos: you can either boot from a cd and "chainload" to dvd, or you can try a script I made just for this purpose [21:12] PS congrats on the new flashy membership! [21:12] If you have a second pc handy nearby, you boot this pc with the edubuntu dvd, and the script automatically shares it on the network for the server to boot from it [21:13] alkisg: I should have guessed you had a script for just such a situation :D [21:13] and congrats to you as well! [21:13] dgroos: here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot#line-75 [21:14] You just run it, and you must have a dhcp server nearby (e.g. a router) - nothing else should be needed... [21:15] perfect. [21:15] So, can I connect both the new-to-be-server and the PC-with-the-dvd-in-it-and-the-script-running on the same network that is running my thin clients? [21:17] dgroos: hmmm no, better not, because then you'll have 2 boot servers [21:18] E.g. then the thin clients might start with the edubuntu live cd, or the server might start as a thin client :D [21:18] But if you can temporarily remove the filename directive from dhcpd.conf, then it'll surely work [21:19] To do this I would open dhcpd.conf and temporarily remove which? [21:20] # if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { [21:20] # filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; [21:20] # } else { [21:20] # filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; [21:20] # } [21:20] i.e. put # in front of those, and run: sudo service dhcp3-server force-reload [21:21] Will do. [21:21] dgroos: but if you don't have anyone working on the thin clients ATM, you can also try it without modifying anything - it might work [21:21] (i'm not sure if proxydhcp takes precedence over plain dhcp for the filename part) [21:32] alkisg: I'm looking over the above reference page and see the section called, "Automation script". So... can I pretty much ignore the rest of the page (quite a few parts I'm not sure what they mean)? [21:32] dgroos: right, ignore all of the rest of the page :) [21:32] :D! [21:33] Thanks, I think I can do this then! Thanks for sharing your creations on the wiki and here on the irc! [21:34] I'll be getting here pretty early tomorrow morning... I'll let you know how it goes. [21:34] Nice, I hope it helps [21:46] alkisg: So, excited? [21:46] About the libpam-ssh? Sure! [21:47] Not for the ltsp part - the "user observed" functionality will remain the same there [21:47] No, it'll improve [21:47] no more crappy password handling [21:47] But for non-ltsp labs, it'll make user administration as effortless as it is in ltsp labs... [21:48] i.e. if you type the password wrong, we can actually ASK for it again :) [21:48] That isn't observed by the user - except for the case when he types his password wrong... [21:48] Much cleaner, but for the teacher/sysadmin it isn't really important [21:49] While simplifying user administration in non-ltsp labs, is very important ;) [21:50] Oh, well, all the really deep magic never makes an impact on the end user. [21:50] the whole goal of ltsp was to make it indistinguishable from a full fledged desktop as much as possible :) [21:51] It'll make it also easier for fat clients... :) [21:52] yep [22:01] fp [22:02] FrontPage? [22:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP [22:05] First post :) [22:05] it was meant for another channel [22:05] in one of my local channels we have a meme to see who can get first post of every day [22:13] Ah [22:13] I believe it's [22:14] "FRIST POST!!!!!11111oneone" [22:14] :) [22:14] yeah if there's enough time to type it out [22:14] * alkisg is in the same timezone with highvoltage :) [22:14] if there is I usually include a cos(0) somewhere in there to [22:14] *too