| mr_steve | Howdy fellas | 02:46 |
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| _diablo | 'lo | 02:49 |
| mr_steve | How's it going? | 02:49 |
| _diablo | not too bad | 02:49 |
| mr_steve | Good good | 02:49 |
| _diablo | I'm not sure if I really belong on here seeing as I'm a fedora user, I'm currently in michigan, and I only attended one meeting | 02:49 |
| _diablo | but I lurk | 02:49 |
| _diablo | :) | 02:49 |
| _diablo | I'll be back in the cities soo | 02:50 |
| mr_steve | Heh, why not. It's fun | 02:50 |
| _diablo | exactly | 02:50 |
| mr_steve | I haven't been in here much lately, very busy. Starting school next week already | 02:50 |
| _diablo | ah, where? | 02:50 |
| mr_steve | Minneapolis Community & Technical College | 02:51 |
| _diablo | ah, nice | 02:51 |
| _diablo | do you know tom ferguson by chance? | 02:52 |
| mr_steve | Nope, don't think so | 02:52 |
| _diablo | ah, well he's the only one I know there | 02:52 |
| mr_steve | Yeah I haven't met anyone there yet. I've only been up there a few times to register and deal with administraiva | 02:53 |
| _diablo | ah, just starting? studying cs I assume? | 02:53 |
| mr_steve | Computer support & network admin | 02:53 |
| mr_steve | At least I well be; I bombed the math test so I have a semester of generals to get through first | 02:53 |
| _diablo | ouch. I'm thinking of looking for network admin jobx | 02:55 |
| _diablo | *jobs | 02:55 |
| _diablo | but I don't really have any experience lol | 02:55 |
| mr_steve | I've got about 5-6 yrs experience in support & admin, but in this economy it's worthless without the degree | 02:56 |
| _diablo | yeah, fair enough | 03:02 |
| _diablo | I'm looking to get linux+ certified | 03:02 |
| _diablo | I'm doing a book thing | 03:02 |
| mr_steve | Yeah I'm thinking about that too. I want to pick up a few certs while I'm still in school, since alot of the electives are certificate prep classes | 03:03 |
| mr_steve | If I gotta take the class, might as well get the cert when I'm done | 03:03 |
| _diablo | exactly | 03:04 |
| _diablo | no real reason not to do so | 03:04 |
| Takyoji__ | I looked at Linux+ and it doesn't really seem to be much at all | 03:13 |
| Takyoji__ | LPI certification looks much better | 03:13 |
| Takyoji__ | Linux+ is just like the basics of Linux; nothing deep at all | 03:13 |
| Takyoji__ | File permissions, using the package manager, etc | 03:13 |
| _diablo | ah, well, the book is for LPI 1 and Linux+ | 03:14 |
| _diablo | or should I be aiming for more than that | 03:14 |
| Takyoji__ | ahh | 03:14 |
| zomGreg | hi guys | 03:15 |
| Takyoji__ | It should give detail on each level of LPI certification: http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification | 03:15 |
| _diablo | zomGreg, hey | 03:16 |
| zomGreg | I just read about this group somewhere on the intarnets and I'm wondering how active it is? | 03:16 |
| _diablo | Takyoji__, is lpi1 even worth it? | 03:16 |
| Takyoji__ | http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_sample_questions | 03:18 |
| _diablo | zomGreg, seems pretty active ;) | 03:18 |
| Takyoji__ | Seems to be general basics, just learning some commands that you might not use much as a desktop user I assume | 03:19 |
| _diablo | Takyoji__, wow. that is super basic | 03:19 |
| _diablo | what kind of level would I need to be a network admin? | 03:19 |
| _diablo | Takyoji__, http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_102_sample_questions | 03:20 |
| _diablo | seems to be a little bit more difficult, although still fairly basic | 03:20 |
| Takyoji__ | At the same time, I haven't taken any LPI certification yet | 03:21 |
| Takyoji__ | I believe tonyyarusso has | 03:21 |
| zomGreg | the debate is ages old. education vs. experience. Spending time in one seems to mean less of the other. | 03:22 |
| zomGreg | there was a good article in Linux Journal about certs vs. experience. | 03:22 |
| Takyoji__ | Yea, I remember reading of it | 03:23 |
| mr_steve | I find it comes down to roughly this: Experience is what you need to do the job, certs/degrees are what you need to get the job. | 03:23 |
| Takyoji__ | What REALLY annoys me is when people take no initiative to learn themself to some extent. Rather than just "oh, I'll take a class in college" | 03:25 |
| mr_steve | Yeah. My dad somehow graduated from Brown with a degree in comp. support & net admin, plus a few certs, and he has no clue at all about computers | 03:26 |
| Takyoji__ | If someone wants to game development, well hey, you can actually LEARN programming and other various concepts, rather than just waiting until college for to take some class | 03:26 |
| zomGreg | nothing like trying and failing and taking good notes for an education. | 03:26 |
| mr_steve | I just run a needlessly complex home network to keep some of my skills sharp while I'm out of work :) | 03:27 |
| Takyoji__ | Too bad I don't have any enterprise-level hardware at home to toy with. :P | 03:28 |
| Takyoji__ | I don't think I've even touched a system yet that uses a RAID array for storage. xP | 03:28 |
| Takyoji__ | Aside from a SAN I've found.. | 03:29 |
| Takyoji__ | (which I believe has a Windows-only client... ) | 03:29 |
| mr_steve | That's my problem too. Although I do have an emulator/workbench type program for playing with emulated Cisco gear | 03:29 |
| mr_steve | And I helped a buddy of mine build a Raid-5 with the Linux md-tools | 03:30 |
| mr_steve | 2.5TB, I'm jealous | 03:30 |
| Takyoji__ | heh | 03:31 |
| zomGreg | nice work! | 03:31 |
| mr_steve | Btw I've just remembered the Cisco IOS workbench I was using is called gns3, if anyone's interested. It's a little quirky but it's in the Ubuntu repo. | 03:32 |
| mr_steve | Getting a hold of IOS images to play with is left as an excercise for the reader.. | 03:33 |
| tonyyarusso | haha | 03:37 |
| tonyyarusso | There's also the Cisco emulator doohickey that's not too bad. | 03:37 |
| tonyyarusso | PacketTracer I think it was. | 03:38 |
| mr_steve | I think I might have heard of that one too, never tried it though | 03:38 |
| mr_steve | I should be brushing up more on my IOS... I used to pretty much break every device I was dumb enough to connect a console cable to | 03:39 |
| mr_steve | I've gotten better tho ;) | 03:39 |
| * tonyyarusso high-fives mr_steve for "needlessly complex home network" - me too! | 03:40 | |
| mr_steve | I have a primary & secondary nameserver! For no reason besides that I can! woohoo | 03:40 |
| tonyyarusso | Okay, now that is bad. | 03:40 |
| Takyoji__ | Isn't that the common procedure? :P | 03:41 |
| tonyyarusso | I've started setting up my first nameserver. | 03:41 |
| mr_steve | I cheated, I'm using Webmin | 03:41 |
| tonyyarusso | Boooooohissssss | 03:41 |
| mr_steve | heheh | 03:41 |
| * tonyyarusso snuggles his local Ubuntu repo though | 03:41 | |
| mr_steve | Bind is still a little intimidating for me | 03:41 |
| tonyyarusso | Bind is weird-looking, but not actually complicated. | 03:42 |
| tonyyarusso | (I set it up to spoof DNS for *.archive.ubuntu.com at the last installfest so people didn't have to change their sources to use the local copy) | 03:42 |
| mr_steve | Nifty. I'm still thinking of setting up my own repo here, I've got 5 Ubuntu machines, it seems wasteful to me to have them all hitting the mirrors for updates | 03:43 |
| tonyyarusso | Oh hey everybody, y'all should brainstorm a topic or two for tomorrow's meeting and put them together on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MinnesotaTeam/MeetingAgenda | 03:44 |
| mr_steve | I'll think on it | 03:46 |
| mr_steve | I had forgotten all about the meeting until about 15 minutes ago | 03:47 |
| jenkinbr | yay, meeting tomorrow :) | 03:50 |
| jenkinbr | I actually remembered :) | 03:50 |
| mr_steve | Yeah it just popped into my head a little while ago so I sent a message out to the list, since I hadn't heard anyone talking about it yet | 03:51 |
| _diablo | this is 7:30 pm central time right? (first time) | 03:51 |
| mr_steve | 7:00PM I think | 03:52 |
| mr_steve | That's what we did last time, anyway | 03:53 |
| tonyyarusso | Yes, 7:00 was the plan. | 03:53 |
| _diablo | this is the december 20 meeting? | 03:54 |
| _diablo | the website is a little off :) | 03:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Just fixed that :) | 03:55 |
| _diablo | gotcah | 03:55 |
| tonyyarusso | Seems the last time we used the wiki for an agenda was a year ago | 03:55 |
| _diablo | s/gotcah/gotcha | 03:55 |
| _diablo | lol | 03:55 |
| zomGreg | so is the Dec 20th agenda what is currently planned for tomorrow? | 03:55 |
| tonyyarusso | no | 03:56 |
| tonyyarusso | Refresheth the page | 03:56 |
| zomGreg | k | 03:56 |
| tonyyarusso | Then fill in the blanks :) | 03:56 |
| mr_steve | Win/lose: i just figured out how to scale the CPU speed on my netbook.. and I've discovered I have a BIOS bug limiting my CPU to 1.33GHz | 04:42 |
| zomGreg | what's the max capability of the CPU? | 04:48 |
| mr_steve | 1.66 | 04:58 |
| zomGreg | not a brutal hit, but a hit nonetheless | 04:58 |
| mr_steve | Yeah, kinda obnoxious when I just bought it, and intentionally chose the one with the faster CPU | 04:59 |
| tonyyarusso | Which model is this? (And how are they getting away with something so dumb?) | 05:00 |
| mr_steve | It's the Acer Aspire One, AOD250 | 05:00 |
| mr_steve | There's an ubuntu bug about it, bug #422858 | 05:01 |
| ubot3` | Malone bug 422858 in cpufreqd "Atom N280 frequency scaling not supported" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422858 | 05:01 |
| mr_steve | Heh I didn't know ubot would do that in this channel, neat | 05:02 |
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| jenkinbr | Someone ping me if I am not active at 7 for the meeting :) | 23:07 |
| _diablo | kk | 23:10 |
| Takyoji__ | ICMP ping? IRC ping? Or a private message? :P | 23:10 |
| jenkinbr | In channel :) | 23:11 |
| jenkinbr | pm's highlight, but I don't notice where they come from because my client doesn't put them in a new tab unless I tell it to, and I no longer am highlighted by notices. | 23:12 |
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