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| * bizkut is away (i am away now) | 04:28 | |
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| * persia fantasises about a bot that automatically parts clients from a channel after N repeated verbose away messages without intervening intentional traffic | 04:31 | |
| brian_ | any openmkok owners here? | 05:38 |
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| brian_ | openmoko | 05:38 |
| persia | brian_: sometimes, although not often, as most OpenMoko devices need ARMv4 | 05:40 |
| brian_ | ic | 05:41 |
| brian_ | arm 7 now | 05:41 |
| persia | Cool! | 05:41 |
| * persia goes off to read all about it | 05:41 | |
| brian_ | :) | 05:42 |
| persia | Hrm. I can't seem to find a good link on the openmoko wiki :( | 05:48 |
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| armin76 | :D | 09:52 |
| * armin76 is away (*g*) | 09:52 | |
| * armin76 kicks zumbi | 09:52 | |
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| cwillu_at_work | what's new in arm land? | 13:15 |
| persia | From the current meeting in #ubuntu-meeting, it looks like .32 kernels should drop soon. | 13:31 |
| cwillu_at_work | drop == land? | 13:36 |
| persia | Yeah. | 13:36 |
| * persia digs up the link | 13:36 | |
| cwillu_at_work | drop typically means the opposite :p | 13:36 |
| persia | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=marvell/dove-kernel/.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/marvell-dove-2.6.32.2 | 13:37 |
| persia | It's often worth dropping into #ubuntu-meeting at 13 UTC on Tuesdays, as a bunch of folk working on ARM stuff tend to talk about current status. | 13:40 |
| * cwillu_at_work makes a note | 13:51 | |
| cwillu_at_work | 13utc is a bit on the early side for me, but yep | 13:52 |
| ogra | you are here now, no ? :) | 13:52 |
| cwillu_at_work | coffee is still flowing in | 13:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | my mental capabilities are still sub-html | 13:53 |
| cwillu_at_work | I need them to be at kernel in half an hour | 13:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | this might be a Documentation Day. | 13:54 |
| ogra | heh | 14:01 |
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| asac | GrueMaster: thanks for pushing the patches up ... is https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gruemaster/lsb-arm-port/main the latest and greatest? | 15:06 |
| NCommander | asac, I think I found the problem with libtool | 15:58 |
| NCommander | /usr/bin/ld: .libs/hello.o: relocation R_ARM_THM_MOVW_ABS_NC against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC :-) | 15:58 |
| NCommander | Martyn, ping? | 16:02 |
| asac | NCommander: who is Martyn ? | 16:05 |
| NCommander | asac, resident ARM guru who can confirm a theory of mine. dmart isn't around or I'd ask him as well | 16:07 |
| NCommander | asac, its possible our toolchain simply doesn't support non-PIC shared libraries on ARMv7, and thus libtool needs to be taught that test can fail safely | 16:07 |
| asac | NCommander: afaik we need PIC | 16:09 |
| NCommander | asac, thats what I thought, but ARMv6 and earlier supported non-PIC shared libraries | 16:09 |
| NCommander | asac, the situation is more complicated that debian/rules forces in arm-linux-gnueabi as the compiler triplex | 16:11 |
| asac | NCommander: so thats a non-PIC test? meaning: we should disable the test? | 16:11 |
| NCommander | asac, yeah, thats the case. I can just modify the test so when it sees ARM, it skips the npic test, although that's not going to be acceptable for upstream | 16:12 |
| Martyn | I am around | 16:17 |
| Martyn | Sorry, had to step away from the keyboard, was doing some FastModel work | 16:18 |
| NCommander | Martyn, what do you know about non-PIC shared libraries on ARMv7? | 16:18 |
| Martyn | non-PIC on arm should be supported in v7 | 16:19 |
| NCommander | Martyn, the toolchain doesn't seem happy about it though | 16:19 |
| Martyn | Then there is a bug in the toolchain | 16:20 |
| NCommander | Martyn, woo. | 16:20 |
| Martyn | In fact it's absolutely required on the snapdragon based cellphone platforms (read: Droid) | 16:21 |
| NCommander | Martyn, non-PIC shared libraries? | 16:21 |
| Martyn | jump onto an Android dev channel, and see if their prepackaged toolchain fails too | 16:21 |
| NCommander | Martyn, non-PIC binary objects work, its just an issue when you build a .so | 16:22 |
| Martyn | Hrm | 16:22 |
| Martyn | Not good | 16:22 |
| NCommander | Martyn, well, most shared libraries are PIC | 16:22 |
| NCommander | Martyn, the only issue this came up is because the libtool torture test blew up on armv7 when trying to build a non-pic library | 16:23 |
| Martyn | *nod* | 16:23 |
| Martyn | Well, I guess I'd have to agree .. drop the test for now | 16:23 |
| Martyn | and report it upstream for investigation | 16:23 |
| NCommander | asac, debdiff on the way :-) | 16:24 |
| NCommander | asac, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.4/+bug/503448 | 16:57 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 503448 in gcc-4.4 "[arm] building non-PIC libraries fails under ARMv7 mode" [Undecided,New] | 16:57 |
| asac | NCommander: so is libtool blocked on that or do we want to disable that test on armel for now? | 17:00 |
| asac | can you check if gcc-snapshot helps? | 17:01 |
| NCommander | asac, lets disable for now, and keep our eye on it | 17:01 |
| asac | (if there is a build available) | 17:01 |
| NCommander | asac, will do | 17:01 |
| GrueMaster | asac: Yes, the LP code is the most current (from my stuff) so far. | 17:13 |
| asac | cool | 17:16 |
| armin76 | nice, dove support made it to mainline | 20:28 |
| armin76 | rabeeh: i want one | 20:28 |
| armin76 | oh well, its just v6 | 20:32 |
| lool | armin76: dove can work in v6 and v7 mode | 20:51 |
| armin76 | lool: yep, but the one in the kernel only is armv6 | 20:53 |
| NCommander | armin76, link? | 21:11 |
| armin76 | NCommander: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=edabd38e1a017e922e3e3b485ee3ddb4df433aa4 && http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mm/Kconfig;h=1549863d7b54564b131d2f415815d51b68c6057b;hp=9264d814cd7a9db1f5a5d0901fc62e81fa921aa0;hb=edabd38e1a017e922e3e3b485ee3ddb4df433aa4;hpb=8d27b2f7988b652dbabf79291a3e2550c06e1af5 | 21:14 |
| NCommander | That's freaking awesome | 21:14 |
| armin76 | why? | 21:15 |
| NCommander | armin76, having a kernel mainline solves a *lot* of issues | 21:16 |
| armin76 | whats the point if its not the proc you're interested in? :) | 21:18 |
| NCommander | armin76, huh? | 21:18 |
| NCommander | armin76, dove is the platform that you were using over IPv6 in my apartment | 21:19 |
| armin76 | NCommander: yes, but your boards are armv7 | 21:19 |
| NCommander | All dove boards are ARMv7 | 21:19 |
| armin76 | NCommander: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/configs/dove_defconfig;h=f2d1ea0abb849a7402d03ba688adaacb6f03b5d8;hb=edabd38e1a017e922e3e3b485ee3ddb4df433aa4 <- this board uses v6 | 21:21 |
| NCommander | armin76, ? | 21:22 |
| NCommander | armin76, ah | 21:23 |
| NCommander | armin76, *shrug* | 21:23 |
| armin76 | fail :) | 21:23 |
| armin76 | NCommander: the commit that added dove support(first link i pasted) only touches armv6 | 21:24 |
| armin76 | and you've seen the defconfig now | 21:24 |
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| armin76 | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=patch;h=edabd38e1a017e922e3e3b485ee3ddb4df433aa4 <- commit | 21:25 |
| suihkulokki | new toy for armin76 to whine for ;) http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/marvell-plug-computer-3-0-packs-in-wifi-bluetooth-and-2ghz-arma/ | 21:50 |
| armin76 | *g* | 21:51 |
| armin76 | suihkulokki: hope it doesn't come with ubuntu :P | 21:51 |
| armin76 | (and the proc is v5) | 21:51 |
| armin76 | looks like they left 2.0 on the road *g* | 21:51 |
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