| shan3 | hi all | 00:55 |
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| shan3 | I have submitted a bug to change some dependencies in some packages for the Lucid release... is it too late? or is there a chance they will be fixed? | 00:56 |
| shan3 | Link to bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-writing-en/+bug/502748 | 00:57 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 502748 in language-support-writing-en "Dependency chain forces installation of OpenOffice" [Undecided,New] | 00:57 |
| hggdh | shan3: no, it shouldnot be too late | 01:02 |
| hggdh | I added regression-potential as a tag to the bug | 01:02 |
| shan3 | hggdh: thank you | 01:02 |
| hggdh | shan3: do you still have the bug # for the old bug? | 01:02 |
| hggdh | it would be good to have a reference on the new one | 01:02 |
| shan3 | i searched for it but i couldn't find it... | 01:02 |
| shan3 | I made it using an old launchpad account which I don't use anymore... | 01:02 |
| hggdh | but it was against the same package as the current bug, right? | 01:02 |
| shan3 | well the devs who fixed it made some dependency changes to the openoffice l10n packages... if i remember correctly | 01:03 |
| shan3 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~librano04 but it doesn't show that bug... | 01:17 |
| hggdh | if the bug was closed, you have to go through an adavanced search | 01:21 |
| hggdh | but no, even then it is not there | 01:22 |
| shan3 | found it... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/220817 | 01:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 220817 in openoffice.org "OpenOffice.org language packs pull in openoffice.org binaries" [High,Fix released] | 01:27 |
| shan3 | hggdh: ^ | 01:27 |
| hggdh | shan3: cool, this is it. Can you add a link to this bug in the new one? This would certainly help | 01:29 |
| hggdh | (I was already reading the bug) | 01:30 |
| shan3 | ok will do hggdh | 01:32 |
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| shan3 | hggdh: done. thanks a lot... i was puzzled when the bug didn't show up on my profile page. never thought to use the advanced search | 01:37 |
| hggdh | shan3: you are welcome, and thank you for your help | 01:37 |
| shan3 | hggdh: have a nice day/night... | 01:38 |
| hggdh | same | 01:38 |
| hggdh | and it is night (US/CST) | 01:38 |
| maco | only barely | 01:38 |
| hggdh | enough for me ;-) | 01:38 |
| maco | its dinner time in the eastern us and afternoon in the west | 01:39 |
| hggdh | it is past bed time for me... just arrived | 01:39 |
| micahg | hggdh: you back? | 01:39 |
| hggdh | micahg: yes | 01:40 |
| micahg | :D | 01:40 |
| hggdh | :-) | 01:40 |
| cyan-spam | hi all. did anyone get a chance to look at the FindRightPackage draft i sent out a few days ago? | 02:23 |
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| nigel_nb | hggdh: hey | 03:16 |
| nigel_nb | happy new year | 03:16 |
| nigel_nb | sorry about the other day, my computer kinda died on me | 03:16 |
| crimsun | bdmurray: all the "[9.10 regression] HDA power_save=10" bugs are closed in Lucid as per my post to ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}/blog | 04:55 |
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| persia | I'm encountering an issue with using terminator and metacity with focus-follows-mouse and focus grabs. Specifically, if something grabs my focus, and my cursor is still in the terminator window, I no longer can change focus between different regions in terminator with focus-follows-mouse until I've left and re-entered terminator. | 06:35 |
| persia | Should I be filing a bug against terminator, or against metacity? Any ideas? | 06:35 |
| thekorn | good morning bugsquad | 08:12 |
| ^arky^ | about bug 501256 , is there needs rebuild tag | 08:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 501256 in merkaartor "symbol lookup error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/501256 | 08:41 |
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| hggdh | pedro_: thank you for setting the gnome-terminal bug to triaged, I selected the wrong drop-down | 15:03 |
| LimCore | Im using ubuntu with some people | 15:03 |
| LimCore | and we thinks its really really NOT for human beings, as there are many not friendly behaviours, lack of informations, missleading things and other stuff | 15:04 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, you're welcome. happy new year btw! | 15:04 |
| LimCore | I wonder does it make sense to report it, and how | 15:04 |
| LimCore | like overall usability problems is most applications.. should that be reported? | 15:04 |
| LimCore | like Synatpic's question about "we need to also install this packages to install the one you want" makes users think that "it does not work" | 15:05 |
| hggdh | pedro_: happy new year to you also (I tend to forget) | 15:08 |
| hggdh | LimCore: usability issues are considered bugs, also. Alternatively, you can send an email to devel-discuss expanding on your views | 15:09 |
| hggdh | and *then* open as many bugs as necessary | 15:09 |
| LimCore | for example the logout menu even is messed up | 15:28 |
| LimCore | when I click the power icon, I see powerdown,suspend etc. I do not see LOGOUT option, it is hidden totally else. Thats super confusing, what do you think | 15:28 |
| bddebian | Boo | 15:29 |
| hggdh | LimCore: it sounds that you are not using the correct applet | 15:38 |
| hggdh | LimCore: on Gnome, you need to have the Indicator Applet Session applet in the panel | 15:41 |
| LimCore | hggdh: this is a totally clean install of 9.10 | 15:57 |
| LimCore | using Gnome as default | 15:57 |
| hggdh | LimCore: if you do not have the Indicator Applet Session in place, after a full clean install, then this is a bug | 16:00 |
| apw | i have noted a lot of people asking for mentorship on the ubuntu-bugcontrol mailing list, w | 16:00 |
| nahs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/503041 <---- does anyone have this bug? It's not getting any attention and it's..bugging me lol | 16:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 503041 in ubuntu "Mouse lags while copying highlighted text." [Undecided,New] | 16:01 |
| LimCore | wait wait, that account was the restored account, with restored setting. After all, a NEW account in 9.10 seems to not have the problem I described.. so its fixed now :) | 16:01 |
| LimCore | (although it would be nicer if that other application-button that shows shutdown/restart/hibern/sleep would also show logout) | 16:01 |
| apw | i have noted a lot of people asking for mentorship on the ubuntu-bugcontrol mailing list, which seems to be triggered by the text here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved ... but it appears there is a new process using this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors ... who owns the docs there? | 16:02 |
| apw | or at least can confirm which is the right way | 16:02 |
| hggdh | apw: let me look at the pages | 16:03 |
| apw | hggdh, indeed some of the emails i have recieved indicate there may be a third way the 'lp page' which i assume is a launchpad group .... much confusion reigns and i can see what appear to be 8 or 10 new requests which are seemingly ignored | 16:05 |
| hggdh | apw -- the request to membership (the "lp page" thingie) is the same as stated in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors | 16:06 |
| apw | ok cool. so do we need to change the 'getting involved' page to point to that one? | 16:07 |
| hggdh | apw -- the requests are not really being ignored -- this is -- as I stated in the page -- a WIP | 16:07 |
| hggdh | apw: indeed we need to change it | 16:07 |
| apw | i don't mean the ones in the page, i mean the ones in email which followed the broken instructions | 16:07 |
| apw | at least i don't see anyone replying (other than me :) | 16:07 |
| apw | and i am pointing them to the other page, in the hopes i was right to do so | 16:08 |
| hggdh | I cannot di it right now, very slow bloody wiki conneciton | 16:08 |
| apw | yep the wiki can suck | 16:08 |
| hggdh | in my case, it is the wifi I have at my customer :-( | 16:08 |
| hggdh | so I get a lot of timeouts | 16:08 |
| apw | i'll point the intructions there as an interim, feel free to correct | 16:09 |
| hggdh | we are still trying to get it done -- I was doing part of it, but, unfortunately, got way too busy earning money | 16:09 |
| hggdh | (not that I am complaining about the earning money part, mind you) | 16:10 |
| nigel_nb | hello | 16:10 |
| hggdh | but yes, I agree. Like now we are looking very much like the London underground, mind the gap and all of that | 16:11 |
| hggdh | hi nigel_nb | 16:11 |
| nigel_nb | long time hggdh, I keep missing you online | 16:11 |
| hggdh | yes, I am sorry about that | 16:11 |
| nigel_nb | happy new year, hope its good so far hggdh :) | 16:11 |
| apw | hggdh, cool, once one of us has fixed the page, i'll reply to everyone who doesn't appear to have an answer and asking them to use the other page | 16:11 |
| hggdh | apw thank you very much. We were trying to automagically add them all as membership requestors, but we hit a bug on launchpad :-( | 16:12 |
| nahs | so yeah :/ | 16:12 |
| nahs | guess this one will go unfixed | 16:12 |
| hggdh | nahs: patience, please ;-) | 16:13 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: a happy one for you too | 16:13 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: so far, my computer is not friendly to me, have to get it repaire | 16:13 |
| hggdh | :-) | 16:13 |
| hggdh | nahs: this sounds like a X issue | 16:14 |
| nahs | Nothing's wrong with graphics card or anything like that, just the whole "copying to clipboard" craps out everything | 16:14 |
| nahs | hggdh: has anything similar been reported yet? | 16:14 |
| nahs | I'm surprised 9.04 is way more stable than 9.10, 9.10 = too much new features | 16:15 |
| hggdh | nahs: not to my knowlegde, but I do not deal much with X. Try following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging | 16:15 |
| nahs | it's not much of a crash or a anything, just a little lag | 16:15 |
| hggdh | nahs: well, it was the other way around with me, 9.10 was better than 9.04. But it does not mean much when it does not work | 16:15 |
| nahs | hggdh: can you try doing the little thing and see if it affects you as well? | 16:16 |
| hggdh | nahs: no, it does not affect me, but I am running 10.04 alpha. Another thing you could do -- check if there is a runaway appl eating CPU | 16:16 |
| hggdh | nahs: and it did not affect me while I was on 9.10 | 16:17 |
| hggdh | most of the times I had lag I found one appl in loop | 16:17 |
| nahs | it's just when you copy smoe text | 16:17 |
| nahs | -while- moving the mouse | 16:17 |
| nahs | there's a 0.5 second lag | 16:17 |
| nahs | or a 0.8 one rather | 16:18 |
| hggdh | not here. If nothing is overusing CPU, then it really sounds like X somewhere, perhaps xserver-xorg-input-(evdev|mouse) | 16:19 |
| \vish | nahs: how is ctrl+v == copy for you? or did you mean paste or crtl+c | 16:21 |
| \vish | nahs: but yeah , i can reproduce the problem | 16:23 |
| \vish | !test | 16:25 |
| ubot4 | yes, I'm alive. | 16:25 |
| LimCore | !dance | 16:25 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'dance' not found | 16:25 |
| nahs | \vish: ctrl+c, my bad | 16:25 |
| \vish | nahs: what graphics card are you using? as hggdh mentioned it might be X related... FWIW , I'm using Lucid 10.04 , so it still happens in the latest too ;) | 16:27 |
| nahs | It's not the graphics card, the whole operating system lags when I do that putting it this way | 16:27 |
| nahs | because I've tried it on two laptops that are completely different | 16:28 |
| nahs | One's Intel one's AMD one has nVidia graphics card one has Intel so :/ | 16:28 |
| \vish | hmm... | 16:28 |
| hggdh_ | there is more to X than just the video cards... | 16:28 |
| \vish | that too :) | 16:28 |
| \vish | hggdh_: did you try it while moving the mouse? i get the pointer jump but no huge lags | 16:29 |
| nahs | also how can I edit a bug description, don't know what I was drinking when I wrote ctrl+v haha | 16:29 |
| \vish | nahs: updated it already ;) | 16:29 |
| nahs | so far like 3 people have the same thing, 4 if you count both of my laptops | 16:30 |
| nahs | I'll just wait for the ubuntu-bug-fixing angel to see it | 16:30 |
| nahs | Gracias for everything though amigos :) | 16:31 |
| \vish | nahs: the bug was reported only in the last day.. how do you say already there are others? | 16:31 |
| nahs | I asked people yesterday | 16:31 |
| \vish | ah.. k | 16:32 |
| hggdh_ | so these folks should state this bug affects them also | 16:37 |
| nahs | oh well :/ | 16:37 |
| hggdh_ | but there are already 3 of them in, this is good. | 16:38 |
| hggdh_ | nahs: let's assume, right now, this is X-related. Please follow the instructions on the page I provided you | 16:39 |
| nahs | alright | 16:41 |
| hggdh_ | \vish, nahs: I marked it confirmed | 16:43 |
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| \vish | hggdh_: cool , i didnt confirm it because I wasnt sure of the package.. can bugs without packages be confirmed? | 16:44 |
| hggdh_ | \vish -- they *should* not, but in this case, I did it. The sooner we find a package to lay the blame on, the better | 16:46 |
| \vish | k.. | 16:46 |
| hggdh_ | asking at #ubuntu-x right now... | 16:47 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/package/packages-without-subscribers.txt | 16:58 |
| \vish | hggdh_: hehe... i'm a guy , so no need to be confused over him/her :p [comment on the bug] | 17:13 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, cool! it looks awesome, thank you! | 17:14 |
| \vish | pedro_: hi.. could you close this bug > Bug #367626 its not valid anymore and the upstream report too .. :) | 17:17 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 367626 in indicator-session "Hibernate does not ask for time-out confirmation" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367626 | 17:17 |
| pedro_ | \vish, done all closed now, thanks | 17:20 |
| \vish | pedro_: thanks :) | 17:20 |
| hggdh_ | \vish: *now* I know ;-) | 17:22 |
| hggdh_ | but I always try to be careful | 17:22 |
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| bdmurray | bug 500384 | 21:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 500384 in ubuntu "Ubuntu started so fast" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500384 | 21:36 |
| maco | what? | 21:36 |
| maco | null? what? | 21:36 |
| bdmurray | beats me I just thought starting so fast was funny | 21:36 |
| nigel_nb | u must be kidding me | 21:36 |
| \vish | hehe | 21:37 |
| nigel_nb | OMG! someone has actually logged a bug because their system was fast? | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | Well, it does take all kinds... | 21:42 |
| nigel_nb | and whats with the null? trying to sound like a programmer | 21:44 |
| JFo | the only good response to that is Woo! | 21:44 |
| nigel_nb | ? | 21:44 |
| JFo | sorry, "Woo!" | 21:44 |
| nigel_nb | my response is "so yeah, its fast, you want us to slow it down?" | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, nigel_nb. I saw that too, and wonder if that means the screen is blank for a couple of seconds. | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | Seems like a 10 second startup is great | 21:45 |
| nigel_nb | charlie-tca: for someone who confuses terminology | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | I would take a blank screen the whole time for that | 21:45 |
| nigel_nb | it may as well mean that every application takes 10 seconds to load, and ubuntu hangs during that time | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | true | 21:46 |
| nigel_nb | and the fast is meant to be sarcasm, who knows | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | What ever it means, the reporter is not happy :-( | 21:46 |
| nigel_nb | and he's not helping us help him | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | I'm sure it is clear to him, though | 21:48 |
| nigel_nb | charlie-tca: whatever the case, he'll be more pissed off and more unhelpful | 21:50 |
| \vish | so is anyone gonna triage the bug? ;) | 21:59 |
| nigel_nb | \vish: I'd love to, but I dont think I can | 22:08 |
| nigel_nb | "You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of Ubuntu, and therefore cannot edit this bug's status. " | 22:08 |
| nigel_nb | correction | 22:08 |
| nigel_nb | I haven't logged it | 22:08 |
| nigel_nb | \vish: you beat me to it lol | 22:09 |
| hggdh | s/ubuntu/grub # heh | 22:40 |
| nigel_nb | what package would bug 503589 fall under? | 22:57 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 503589 in yelp "system->preferences->sessions doesn't save desktop layouts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/503589 | 22:57 |
| nigel_nb | mr_pouit: ping | 23:04 |
| nigel_nb | that bug about abiword, is it a workflow bug that the bug squad can skip? | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 23:07 |
| charlie-tca | That is the new one to move it to universe, right? | 23:07 |
| charlie-tca | It is a packageing bug | 23:08 |
| nigel_nb | ah | 23:08 |
| charlie-tca | I tend to keep watch for all the abiword bugs, myself. | 23:09 |
| nigel_nb | but should that go into a mailing list? | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | What? | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | that I watch them? | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu uses Abiword instead of OpenOffice.org, so Abiword comes under the xubuntu-team bug watch | 23:11 |
| nigel_nb | no | 23:11 |
| nigel_nb | I mean the bug is about getting abiword out of main because it is not being maintained | 23:11 |
| nigel_nb | so shouldn't this go to some dev discussion | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | no, the devs will pick up on it | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | I already discussed it with the developers and maintainers | 23:12 |
| nigel_nb | ah okay, great | 23:12 |
| nigel_nb | moving on then | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for helping | 23:13 |
| hggdh | . | 23:24 |
| hggdh | 000000000000...................................... | 23:24 |
| hggdh | .0 | 23:24 |
| nigel_nb | huh? | 23:24 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: asleep at the keyboard? | 23:25 |
| SoftwareExplorer | I was going to report a bug the other day. I asked here what to report it against and someone said gtk. I got interrupted, and now that I'm actually trying to do it, I can't seem to figure out what package gtk is in. | 23:40 |
| nigel_nb | SoftwareExplorer: what was the problem you were having? | 23:44 |
| SoftwareExplorer | nigel_nb: A problem with multiple pointers that only seems to happen on gnome applications, not qt ones | 23:45 |
| joaopinto | SoftwareExplorer, ubuntu-bug libgtk2.0-0 | 23:45 |
| SoftwareExplorer | Thanks. | 23:46 |
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