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gslauenhey all00:47
gslaueni have 2 mythtv backends. I changed one machine to no frontend so I could log into the other machine and now I can not log back into the 1st machine.00:49
gslauenBoth machines are full frontend backends00:51
cjtinant1New Mythbuntu 9.10 install --> unable to watch live tv03:28
cjtinant1http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f743e77f503:31
cjtinant1Any Help would be much appreciated03:31
darthanubis!details03:33
ZinnSorry I don't know about details03:33
darthanubisugh03:33
cjtinant1Zinn: can you help?  been wrecking my head on this one...03:35
MistStlkryou'll have to be a bit more specific to get help from  Zinn I think :-P03:36
cjtinant1Thanks....03:38
MistStlkrsorry.  Pretty sure Zinn is a bot.  And I don't know the answer... so I'm not much use03:39
cjtinant1I select "Watch TV" from menu....   Get Black Screen with message "Please Wait"...  Then "Watch TV" closes and am at the Menu Guide...03:39
cjtinant1who is the moderator tonight?03:40
cjtinant1*foxbuntu, superm1, rhpot1991????03:40
MistStlkrnot 100%, superm1 perhaps?  sorry03:41
cjtinant1thanks MistStlkr03:41
darthanubisthere is no Mod03:41
darthanubisand you will have to be much more specific period03:41
cjtinant1darthanubis:  not sure what you mean by being more specific....03:42
iamlindorocjtinant1, What you are seeing is symptomatic of a general recording issue for most people03:42
iamlindorocjtinant1, which means you want to read the backend logs03:42
iamlindoro/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log03:42
cjtinant1http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f743e77f503:42
iamlindoromost of the recording-related errors are plain-english03:42
cjtinant1Live TV wont start...03:43
iamlindorocjtinant1, That's just a tail of your backend log, not the part that actually shows the error03:43
iamlindorocjtinant1, pastebin a lot more of the backend log03:43
iamlindorocjtinant1, tentatively I'll guess a capture card setup issue or a storage dir permissions error03:44
iamlindoroplease also mention what kind of capture device you are trying to use03:44
cjtinant1You are CORRECT....   but dont know how to fix....03:45
cjtinant1http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m5345ca3003:45
cjtinant1PVR500 (2)03:45
iamlindorocjtinant1, okay, your problem is you have set them up as V4L card type03:45
iamlindoroand they're not03:45
iamlindoroPVR-500 is ivtv/MPEG-2 encoder card types03:46
iamlindoroso go back to mythtv-setup and in the capture card setup, modify the cards you have created and change the type to ivtv/MPEG-203:46
cjtinant1Ahhhhh thanks...03:51
cjtinant1Made changes and still is hanging...  Need to reboot?03:51
iamlindorono, need to restart the backend and see the new logs03:52
iamlindoroAlso, please don't cut out bits and pieces of the log03:53
cjtinant1nknown video codec.  Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles.03:53
cjtinant1sorry....  jsut went to the most recent activity03:53
iamlindoroThat means you are still set up as v4l card type03:53
iamlindoroif you are seeing the above03:53
cjtinant1Complete Log file:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m57f0a803:54
iamlindorocjtinant1, You ahve not successfully changed your cards to ivtv type03:54
iamlindoroThe fact that it mentions software encoders means at least one card (the one it's trying to use for liveTV) is still set up as v4l03:55
cjtinant1I just reconfirmed in Mythbackend Setup....   all "4 tuners" are showing as MJPEG03:56
iamlindoroMJPEG isn't ivtv/MPEG-2 :)03:56
iamlindoronotice the extra j03:56
cjtinant1So use the IVTV for ALL cards?03:57
iamlindoroyes03:57
cjtinant1arrrrr....  will try again... Thanks for being patient03:57
iamlindoronp03:58
cjtinant1ok...   Video is streaming, but is not that great  (seems a bit blurred - not crisp) ...  Also, no sound04:02
iamlindoroYou are probably using default resolution and bitrate, you should read about and edit recording profiles04:02
iamlindoroand switch the recording resolution to 720x480 (it is probably 480x480 right now)04:03
cjtinant1I have a 9600 Nvidia card connected to a 37 in plasma via DVI to HDMI cable....   can it go to 1080p resolution?04:04
iamlindoroyou can display that resolution, but your capture card is only capable of 720x48004:05
cjtinant1Ahh,  would need HD Homerun or something comparable04:05
cjtinant1?04:05
iamlindoroThat would record Clear QAM channels, so yes, that would include (if unencrypted) the ability to record 1080i04:06
cjtinant1Thanks....   also, to get audio; what profile should I use?  have a stereo cable connected to audio port that splits to coax (red/white) - which connects to TV04:07
iamlindoroAudio should already be in there04:07
iamlindoroin fact, it probably is04:07
iamlindoroit's more likely your audio settings in Myth aren't correct (ie, the output settings)04:07
cjtinant1Output settings (MCC)?04:08
iamlindoroNo, General settings in mythfrontend04:08
iamlindoroUtilities/Setup->Setup->General04:08
cjtinant1K--->  what should I use for that (setting)04:08
cjtinant1ALSU (I think)04:08
iamlindoroWhatever is right for your setup :)04:08
iamlindoroAny answer I gave you would be a guess04:08
cjtinant1Thanks....  will need to mess with that then...04:09
cjtinant1Thanks SOOO much!!!  Now I can finalize this....04:09
iamlindoronp04:09
papertigerscan anyone point me in the direction of setting up a mythbuntu diskless system05:05
MistStlkrOHH!  I know that one!  Y0ou can't at the moment.  The fix is in the works.  It broke some time in the last couple of updates05:27
MistStlkrpapertigers:  ddempsey3 is working on remaking the diskless image creation05:38
MistStlkrit apparently broke a couple updates back05:38
papertigersMistStlkr: oh okay, I was wondering what happened to it. I remembered seeing it and I just went to use it for the first time and its gone05:38
MistStlkrthey were discussing it last night.. it's in the works.05:39
MistStlkrthey = (ddempsey3 and iamlindoro) if you wanted to follow up and see if there is any sort of timeline.. I have to run, cheers05:40
iamlindoronot me, not a MythBuntu honcho05:40
MistStlkryou and ddempsey were discussing it, thought maybe you might know more.. sorry to mislead.  *gone for real this time*05:41
rhpot1991MistStlkr: papertigers: I believe the MCC plugin is just missing, if you follow the old directions and do the process with the command line it *should* still work05:42
papertigersrhpot1991: where could i find that05:43
MistStlkrback, and I should correct myself, it was superm1, not iamlindoro that I meant to refer you to.06:32
Gumbyhi all.  has anyone had an issue when the guide is completely black in the latest mythbuntu?07:56
hipitihopwhat is the correct way to run an arbitrary script as root after reboot ?14:08
wsuetholzquit17:42
cjtinantperforming a fresh install of 9.10....  Have a question about partitioning.17:56
cjtinantBACKEND Server:  Have an 80gb drive (OS) and a 640gb drive (Recordings)....  With the extra space on OS drive, would it be wise to set a /db_backups partition (50gb) or set the backup directory on the Recording drive?17:57
cjtinantRECORDING DRIVE:  partition as JFS or XFS?18:01
cjtinantOS DRIVE: Ext4 or Ext3?18:01
cjtinantRead somewhere that the "new" partitions were recommended - would like a second option....18:02
cjtinantAt Partition now so imput would be nice...18:02
cjtinantBACKEND Server:  Have an 80gb drive (OS) and a 640gb drive (Recordings)....  With the extra space on OS drive, would it be wise to set a /db_backups partition (50gb) or set the backup directory on the Recording drive?18:08
rhpot1991cjtinant: ext4 across the board, is the default anymore18:11
cjtinantrhpot1991: JFS for data storage?18:11
rhpot1991data storage = recordings?18:11
cjtinantyes18:11
rhpot1991ext4 that too18:12
cjtinantseperate drive18:12
cjtinantok.....   Partitioning:  Backup directory on 80gb drive or Recording drive?18:12
rhpot1991you should be fine doing db backups on the main partition if its 80gb18:12
rhpot1991you should never fill that up18:12
rhpot1991if you want to be safe you can put that on the recording drive just to keep it away, shouldn't matter though18:13
cjtinantDidnt think so, just thought it would be a waist to not use some of the extra space.18:13
cjtinantOK, so the only way it would be lost is if the drive crashes.18:13
cjtinantI have 4gb RAM.....   Any 64bit OS?18:14
rhpot1991ya we have 64bit mythbuntu18:14
rhpot1991or you can use ubuntu and add mythtv to it18:14
cjtinantdidnt find the distro link to it....  only the 32bit from the website18:15
cjtinantwill 32bit os support 4gb RAM?18:15
rhpot1991don't think so18:16
rhpot1991should limit it at 3.something18:16
cjtinantsame as Windows18:16
cjtinantI assume18:16
rhpot1991I think18:16
rhpot1991not positive18:16
cjtinantOHHH, almost forgot....  use a SWAP file?  3gb or so?18:17
rhpot1991"The size of your swap should be equal to twice your computer's physical RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM. For physical RAM above 2 GB, the size of your swap should be equal to the amount of physical RAM above 2 GB. The size of your swap should never less than 32 MB. "18:19
cjtinantOk, THANKS!  read a few threads where users were recommending NOT to use a Swap file for 4gb ram18:20
cjtinantThat is of course the reason to ask.18:20
rhpot1991ya you could go without one18:21
rhpot1991but it doesn't hurt18:21
cjtinantk....  Thanks so much for taking the time to answer teh questions.18:21
rhpot1991no problem18:21
cjtinantgonna install now18:21
rhpot1991good luck18:21
cjtinant:-/18:21
cjtinantFound the ISO for 64 bit....   Says AMD;  assume it will not work on intel/18:27
rhpot1991cjtinant: it will18:27
rhpot1991amd made 64bit first, so they get the glory18:27
rhpot1991cjtinant: http://mythbuntu.org/downloads18:28
rhpot1991is where you want to go18:28
cjtinantIC....   Would it be wise to go 64bit to gain the loss of RAM?  concerned with compatibility issues (harware/software)18:28
rhpot1991you should be fine18:29
rhpot1991a lot of people run 64bit18:29
cjtinantK...  halting the installl for the 64bit.... thanks again.18:29
rhpot1991if your hardware can handle it I'd run it18:29
cjtinantright on....  it aint windows;-)18:29
cjtinantOne last question that has plagued my mind....   Needing another tuner card here soon...18:31
cjtinantHD HOMERUN, Fusion HDTV7 Dual Express, or the pcHDTV HD-550018:33
cjtinantreplacing old PVR500s....  WANTING crisp, fast, reliable cards....   Using Cable TV Premium pkg18:34
rhpot1991I have a HDHR and love it18:34
rhpot1991only gonna get you clear QAM18:35
cjtinantI just put 2 in today... . needing another 2 tuners...18:35
rhpot1991unless your cable is doing the conversion now then your analog stations are prob available but may go away18:35
rhpot1991HDHR is a dual tuner too (they make a single too, but thats silly)18:35
cjtinantso clear QAM will only capture upper channels....  not the local stations.18:35
rhpot1991generally it will be your locals in HD18:36
cjtinantMeant, have 2 HD-550018:36
rhpot1991http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us18:36
rhpot1991plug your zip into that18:36
cjtinantI dont follow....   sorry, will NOT get the upper channels, just basic cable?18:37
cjtinantoops:  No channel information known for US:57702 (from link)18:38
cjtinantWhat if I connected a STB into it and bought CommandIR II18:39
cjtinantshould run from IP?18:40
cjtinantWill I get all the channels then?  sorry, not very clear with this stuff - learning.18:40
rhpot1991...18:47
cannonfodderhelp, I broke my lirc in the upgrade process from 8.10 to 9.10 :(.  I changed two variable...the os version and the remote.  I have a directv remote pretending to be a Microsoft windows media center remote and I have a serial IR receiver on my mythbuntu box.  In the control center, I set it to the windows media center which assumes a usb, so I went to hardware.conf and changed from lirc_usbblah to19:19
cannonfodder lirc_serial, I restarted lirc and tried irw and nothin...so I am not sure if the serial parts not working or the fake windows media part19:19
cannonfodderthe serial receiver is a homebrew type that I got from IRblaster.com19:20
jquintanaCan someone suggest a mobo with HDMI output with either P4 or Sempron CPU support?20:25
wsuetholzHello,  can I take one of my tuners on my backend server and dedicate it to a particular diskless frontend?  If so, how?  Pointer to WIKI entry that I missed in my searches is fine.  Thank you20:52
iamlindoroNo, you cannot20:55
wsuetholzIf I install the backend on the frontend in question, and add the tuner there, will that frontend use that tuner?  I have HDHomeRun devices as my tuners..21:07
rhpot1991wsuetholz: it will use a tuner based on availability and priority21:22
wsuetholzI haven't noticed priority making any difference to live tv..21:36
wsuetholzI have also on this front end noticed that on occasion,  it picks a tuner that seems to be stuck on one frequency.  I can see all the sub channels for that frequency, but I cannot tune to a different frequency.21:37
wsuetholzIf I switch to a different tuner, things will work.  The tuner in question seems to work ok for recording other channels..21:38
wsuetholzBTW:  I'm running Mythbuntu Karmic21:38
mrguitaranyone here from the flash conversation yesterday?21:56
mrguitaroh well. I removed the flash deb (forgot the package name) and grabbed the 10.2 beta. There are some noticeable improvements. Hulu programs like Family Guy look perfect. normal HD-ish stuff is still jerky but it's better.22:16
mrguitarCheers22:16
wsuetholzHow would I go about getting audio to output to both analog and digital at the same time?22:19
wsuetholzI have things currently configured with the HDMI volume control hack presently.22:20
superm1mrguitar, great to hear22:29
jac1dHi all.  I am having a real problem getting the Nvidia driver to work on 9.10 32 bit when connected via HDMI to a Samsung 720p TV22:47
jac1dIt just keeps starting in low graphics mode.  I used nvidia-xconfig to try and generate a valid config and still just start in low graphics mode.  Chipset is an onboard GeForce 940022:48
cjtinantIssues with installation --> NO SOUND (Video or TV), and RESOLUTION is terrible on TV not VIDEO.22:48
cjtinantPlease help!22:48
cjtinanthttp://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m40aed98222:48
cjtinant9.10 64bit / GF 9600 / On-board Sound22:50
jac1dcjtinant: Are you using HDMI?22:52
cjtinantjac1d: no, line-in connection (jack)22:57
cjtinanttrying to "dig-up" information on this but to no avail....  arggg22:58
cjtinantbump...  still no audio;-)23:02
cjtinantThis may further help!  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m129f166823:09
cjtinantPossibly usefull?  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m262ecee423:26
cjtinantIssues with installation --> NO SOUND (Video or TV), and RESOLUTION is terrible on TV not VIDEO.23:26
wsuetholzjacld: After boot, can you run the nvidia-settings program?23:28
wsuetholzjacld: Is it able to properly detect your TV?  Can you adjust the settings in there?23:29
wsuetholzjacld: I had to manually configure X for one of my displays, because the information about the display was not being told to the nvidia driver.23:30

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