[00:47] <gslauen> hey all
[00:49] <gslauen> i have 2 mythtv backends. I changed one machine to no frontend so I could log into the other machine and now I can not log back into the 1st machine.
[00:51] <gslauen> Both machines are full frontend backends
[03:28] <cjtinant1> New Mythbuntu 9.10 install --> unable to watch live tv
[03:31] <cjtinant1> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f743e77f5
[03:31] <cjtinant1> Any Help would be much appreciated
[03:33] <darthanubis> !details
[03:33] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about details
[03:33] <darthanubis> ugh
[03:35] <cjtinant1> Zinn: can you help?  been wrecking my head on this one...
[03:36] <MistStlkr> you'll have to be a bit more specific to get help from  Zinn I think :-P
[03:38] <cjtinant1> Thanks....
[03:39] <MistStlkr> sorry.  Pretty sure Zinn is a bot.  And I don't know the answer... so I'm not much use
[03:39] <cjtinant1> I select "Watch TV" from menu....   Get Black Screen with message "Please Wait"...  Then "Watch TV" closes and am at the Menu Guide...
[03:40] <cjtinant1> who is the moderator tonight?
[03:40] <cjtinant1> *foxbuntu, superm1, rhpot1991????
[03:41] <MistStlkr> not 100%, superm1 perhaps?  sorry
[03:41] <cjtinant1> thanks MistStlkr
[03:41] <darthanubis> there is no Mod
[03:41] <darthanubis> and you will have to be much more specific period
[03:42] <cjtinant1> darthanubis:  not sure what you mean by being more specific....
[03:42] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, What you are seeing is symptomatic of a general recording issue for most people
[03:42] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, which means you want to read the backend logs
[03:42] <iamlindoro> /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[03:42] <cjtinant1> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f743e77f5
[03:42] <iamlindoro> most of the recording-related errors are plain-english
[03:43] <cjtinant1> Live TV wont start...
[03:43] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, That's just a tail of your backend log, not the part that actually shows the error
[03:43] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, pastebin a lot more of the backend log
[03:44] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, tentatively I'll guess a capture card setup issue or a storage dir permissions error
[03:44] <iamlindoro> please also mention what kind of capture device you are trying to use
[03:45] <cjtinant1> You are CORRECT....   but dont know how to fix....
[03:45] <cjtinant1> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m5345ca30
[03:45] <cjtinant1> PVR500 (2)
[03:45] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, okay, your problem is you have set them up as V4L card type
[03:45] <iamlindoro> and they're not
[03:46] <iamlindoro> PVR-500 is ivtv/MPEG-2 encoder card types
[03:46] <iamlindoro> so go back to mythtv-setup and in the capture card setup, modify the cards you have created and change the type to ivtv/MPEG-2
[03:51] <cjtinant1> Ahhhhh thanks...
[03:51] <cjtinant1> Made changes and still is hanging...  Need to reboot?
[03:52] <iamlindoro> no, need to restart the backend and see the new logs
[03:53] <iamlindoro> Also, please don't cut out bits and pieces of the log
[03:53] <cjtinant1> nknown video codec.  Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles.
[03:53] <cjtinant1> sorry....  jsut went to the most recent activity
[03:53] <iamlindoro> That means you are still set up as v4l card type
[03:53] <iamlindoro> if you are seeing the above
[03:54] <cjtinant1> Complete Log file:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m57f0a8
[03:54] <iamlindoro> cjtinant1, You ahve not successfully changed your cards to ivtv type
[03:55] <iamlindoro> The fact that it mentions software encoders means at least one card (the one it's trying to use for liveTV) is still set up as v4l
[03:56] <cjtinant1> I just reconfirmed in Mythbackend Setup....   all "4 tuners" are showing as MJPEG
[03:56] <iamlindoro> MJPEG isn't ivtv/MPEG-2 :)
[03:56] <iamlindoro> notice the extra j
[03:57] <cjtinant1> So use the IVTV for ALL cards?
[03:57] <iamlindoro> yes
[03:57] <cjtinant1> arrrrr....  will try again... Thanks for being patient
[03:58] <iamlindoro> np
[04:02] <cjtinant1> ok...   Video is streaming, but is not that great  (seems a bit blurred - not crisp) ...  Also, no sound
[04:02] <iamlindoro> You are probably using default resolution and bitrate, you should read about and edit recording profiles
[04:03] <iamlindoro> and switch the recording resolution to 720x480 (it is probably 480x480 right now)
[04:04] <cjtinant1> I have a 9600 Nvidia card connected to a 37 in plasma via DVI to HDMI cable....   can it go to 1080p resolution?
[04:05] <iamlindoro> you can display that resolution, but your capture card is only capable of 720x480
[04:05] <cjtinant1> Ahh,  would need HD Homerun or something comparable
[04:05] <cjtinant1> ?
[04:06] <iamlindoro> That would record Clear QAM channels, so yes, that would include (if unencrypted) the ability to record 1080i
[04:07] <cjtinant1> Thanks....   also, to get audio; what profile should I use?  have a stereo cable connected to audio port that splits to coax (red/white) - which connects to TV
[04:07] <iamlindoro> Audio should already be in there
[04:07] <iamlindoro> in fact, it probably is
[04:07] <iamlindoro> it's more likely your audio settings in Myth aren't correct (ie, the output settings)
[04:08] <cjtinant1> Output settings (MCC)?
[04:08] <iamlindoro> No, General settings in mythfrontend
[04:08] <iamlindoro> Utilities/Setup->Setup->General
[04:08] <cjtinant1> K--->  what should I use for that (setting)
[04:08] <cjtinant1> ALSU (I think)
[04:08] <iamlindoro> Whatever is right for your setup :)
[04:08] <iamlindoro> Any answer I gave you would be a guess
[04:09] <cjtinant1> Thanks....  will need to mess with that then...
[04:09] <cjtinant1> Thanks SOOO much!!!  Now I can finalize this....
[04:09] <iamlindoro> np
[05:05] <papertigers> can anyone point me in the direction of setting up a mythbuntu diskless system
[05:27] <MistStlkr> OHH!  I know that one!  Y0ou can't at the moment.  The fix is in the works.  It broke some time in the last couple of updates
[05:38] <MistStlkr> papertigers:  ddempsey3 is working on remaking the diskless image creation
[05:38] <MistStlkr> it apparently broke a couple updates back
[05:38] <papertigers> MistStlkr: oh okay, I was wondering what happened to it. I remembered seeing it and I just went to use it for the first time and its gone
[05:39] <MistStlkr> they were discussing it last night.. it's in the works.
[05:40] <MistStlkr> they = (ddempsey3 and iamlindoro) if you wanted to follow up and see if there is any sort of timeline.. I have to run, cheers
[05:40] <iamlindoro> not me, not a MythBuntu honcho
[05:41] <MistStlkr> you and ddempsey were discussing it, thought maybe you might know more.. sorry to mislead.  *gone for real this time*
[05:42] <rhpot1991> MistStlkr: papertigers: I believe the MCC plugin is just missing, if you follow the old directions and do the process with the command line it *should* still work
[05:43] <papertigers> rhpot1991: where could i find that
[06:32] <MistStlkr> back, and I should correct myself, it was superm1, not iamlindoro that I meant to refer you to.
[07:56] <Gumby> hi all.  has anyone had an issue when the guide is completely black in the latest mythbuntu?
[14:08] <hipitihop> what is the correct way to run an arbitrary script as root after reboot ?
[17:42] <wsuetholz> quit
[17:56] <cjtinant> performing a fresh install of 9.10....  Have a question about partitioning.
[17:57] <cjtinant> BACKEND Server:  Have an 80gb drive (OS) and a 640gb drive (Recordings)....  With the extra space on OS drive, would it be wise to set a /db_backups partition (50gb) or set the backup directory on the Recording drive?
[18:01] <cjtinant> RECORDING DRIVE:  partition as JFS or XFS?
[18:01] <cjtinant> OS DRIVE: Ext4 or Ext3?
[18:02] <cjtinant> Read somewhere that the "new" partitions were recommended - would like a second option....
[18:02] <cjtinant> At Partition now so imput would be nice...
[18:08] <cjtinant> BACKEND Server:  Have an 80gb drive (OS) and a 640gb drive (Recordings)....  With the extra space on OS drive, would it be wise to set a /db_backups partition (50gb) or set the backup directory on the Recording drive?
[18:11] <rhpot1991> cjtinant: ext4 across the board, is the default anymore
[18:11] <cjtinant> rhpot1991: JFS for data storage?
[18:11] <rhpot1991> data storage = recordings?
[18:11] <cjtinant> yes
[18:12] <rhpot1991> ext4 that too
[18:12] <cjtinant> seperate drive
[18:12] <cjtinant> ok.....   Partitioning:  Backup directory on 80gb drive or Recording drive?
[18:12] <rhpot1991> you should be fine doing db backups on the main partition if its 80gb
[18:12] <rhpot1991> you should never fill that up
[18:13] <rhpot1991> if you want to be safe you can put that on the recording drive just to keep it away, shouldn't matter though
[18:13] <cjtinant> Didnt think so, just thought it would be a waist to not use some of the extra space.
[18:13] <cjtinant> OK, so the only way it would be lost is if the drive crashes.
[18:14] <cjtinant> I have 4gb RAM.....   Any 64bit OS?
[18:14] <rhpot1991> ya we have 64bit mythbuntu
[18:14] <rhpot1991> or you can use ubuntu and add mythtv to it
[18:15] <cjtinant> didnt find the distro link to it....  only the 32bit from the website
[18:15] <cjtinant> will 32bit os support 4gb RAM?
[18:16] <rhpot1991> don't think so
[18:16] <rhpot1991> should limit it at 3.something
[18:16] <cjtinant> same as Windows
[18:16] <cjtinant> I assume
[18:16] <rhpot1991> I think
[18:16] <rhpot1991> not positive
[18:17] <cjtinant> OHHH, almost forgot....  use a SWAP file?  3gb or so?
[18:19] <rhpot1991> "The size of your swap should be equal to twice your computer's physical RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM. For physical RAM above 2 GB, the size of your swap should be equal to the amount of physical RAM above 2 GB. The size of your swap should never less than 32 MB. "
[18:20] <cjtinant> Ok, THANKS!  read a few threads where users were recommending NOT to use a Swap file for 4gb ram
[18:20] <cjtinant> That is of course the reason to ask.
[18:21] <rhpot1991> ya you could go without one
[18:21] <rhpot1991> but it doesn't hurt
[18:21] <cjtinant> k....  Thanks so much for taking the time to answer teh questions.
[18:21] <rhpot1991> no problem
[18:21] <cjtinant> gonna install now
[18:21] <rhpot1991> good luck
[18:21] <cjtinant> :-/
[18:27] <cjtinant> Found the ISO for 64 bit....   Says AMD;  assume it will not work on intel/
[18:27] <rhpot1991> cjtinant: it will
[18:27] <rhpot1991> amd made 64bit first, so they get the glory
[18:28] <rhpot1991> cjtinant: http://mythbuntu.org/downloads
[18:28] <rhpot1991> is where you want to go
[18:28] <cjtinant> IC....   Would it be wise to go 64bit to gain the loss of RAM?  concerned with compatibility issues (harware/software)
[18:29] <rhpot1991> you should be fine
[18:29] <rhpot1991> a lot of people run 64bit
[18:29] <cjtinant> K...  halting the installl for the 64bit.... thanks again.
[18:29] <rhpot1991> if your hardware can handle it I'd run it
[18:29] <cjtinant> right on....  it aint windows;-)
[18:31] <cjtinant> One last question that has plagued my mind....   Needing another tuner card here soon...
[18:33] <cjtinant> HD HOMERUN, Fusion HDTV7 Dual Express, or the pcHDTV HD-5500
[18:34] <cjtinant> replacing old PVR500s....  WANTING crisp, fast, reliable cards....   Using Cable TV Premium pkg
[18:34] <rhpot1991> I have a HDHR and love it
[18:35] <rhpot1991> only gonna get you clear QAM
[18:35] <cjtinant> I just put 2 in today... . needing another 2 tuners...
[18:35] <rhpot1991> unless your cable is doing the conversion now then your analog stations are prob available but may go away
[18:35] <rhpot1991> HDHR is a dual tuner too (they make a single too, but thats silly)
[18:35] <cjtinant> so clear QAM will only capture upper channels....  not the local stations.
[18:36] <rhpot1991> generally it will be your locals in HD
[18:36] <cjtinant> Meant, have 2 HD-5500
[18:36] <rhpot1991> http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us
[18:36] <rhpot1991> plug your zip into that
[18:37] <cjtinant> I dont follow....   sorry, will NOT get the upper channels, just basic cable?
[18:38] <cjtinant> oops:  No channel information known for US:57702 (from link)
[18:39] <cjtinant> What if I connected a STB into it and bought CommandIR II
[18:40] <cjtinant> should run from IP?
[18:40] <cjtinant> Will I get all the channels then?  sorry, not very clear with this stuff - learning.
[18:47] <rhpot1991> ...
[19:19] <cannonfodder> help, I broke my lirc in the upgrade process from 8.10 to 9.10 :(.  I changed two variable...the os version and the remote.  I have a directv remote pretending to be a Microsoft windows media center remote and I have a serial IR receiver on my mythbuntu box.  In the control center, I set it to the windows media center which assumes a usb, so I went to hardware.conf and changed from lirc_usbblah to
[19:19] <cannonfodder>  lirc_serial, I restarted lirc and tried irw and nothin...so I am not sure if the serial parts not working or the fake windows media part
[19:20] <cannonfodder> the serial receiver is a homebrew type that I got from IRblaster.com
[20:25] <jquintana> Can someone suggest a mobo with HDMI output with either P4 or Sempron CPU support?
[20:52] <wsuetholz> Hello,  can I take one of my tuners on my backend server and dedicate it to a particular diskless frontend?  If so, how?  Pointer to WIKI entry that I missed in my searches is fine.  Thank you
[20:55] <iamlindoro> No, you cannot
[21:07] <wsuetholz> If I install the backend on the frontend in question, and add the tuner there, will that frontend use that tuner?  I have HDHomeRun devices as my tuners..
[21:22] <rhpot1991> wsuetholz: it will use a tuner based on availability and priority
[21:36] <wsuetholz> I haven't noticed priority making any difference to live tv..
[21:37] <wsuetholz> I have also on this front end noticed that on occasion,  it picks a tuner that seems to be stuck on one frequency.  I can see all the sub channels for that frequency, but I cannot tune to a different frequency.
[21:38] <wsuetholz> If I switch to a different tuner, things will work.  The tuner in question seems to work ok for recording other channels..
[21:38] <wsuetholz> BTW:  I'm running Mythbuntu Karmic
[21:56] <mrguitar> anyone here from the flash conversation yesterday?
[22:16] <mrguitar> oh well. I removed the flash deb (forgot the package name) and grabbed the 10.2 beta. There are some noticeable improvements. Hulu programs like Family Guy look perfect. normal HD-ish stuff is still jerky but it's better.
[22:16] <mrguitar> Cheers
[22:19] <wsuetholz> How would I go about getting audio to output to both analog and digital at the same time?
[22:20] <wsuetholz> I have things currently configured with the HDMI volume control hack presently.
[22:29] <superm1> mrguitar, great to hear
[22:47] <jac1d> Hi all.  I am having a real problem getting the Nvidia driver to work on 9.10 32 bit when connected via HDMI to a Samsung 720p TV
[22:48] <jac1d> It just keeps starting in low graphics mode.  I used nvidia-xconfig to try and generate a valid config and still just start in low graphics mode.  Chipset is an onboard GeForce 9400
[22:48] <cjtinant> Issues with installation --> NO SOUND (Video or TV), and RESOLUTION is terrible on TV not VIDEO.
[22:48] <cjtinant> Please help!
[22:48] <cjtinant> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m40aed982
[22:50] <cjtinant> 9.10 64bit / GF 9600 / On-board Sound
[22:52] <jac1d> cjtinant: Are you using HDMI?
[22:57] <cjtinant> jac1d: no, line-in connection (jack)
[22:58] <cjtinant> trying to "dig-up" information on this but to no avail....  arggg
[23:02] <cjtinant> bump...  still no audio;-)
[23:09] <cjtinant> This may further help!  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m129f1668
[23:26] <cjtinant> Possibly usefull?  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m262ecee4
[23:26] <cjtinant> Issues with installation --> NO SOUND (Video or TV), and RESOLUTION is terrible on TV not VIDEO.
[23:28] <wsuetholz> jacld: After boot, can you run the nvidia-settings program?
[23:29] <wsuetholz> jacld: Is it able to properly detect your TV?  Can you adjust the settings in there?
[23:30] <wsuetholz> jacld: I had to manually configure X for one of my displays, because the information about the display was not being told to the nvidia driver.