[02:37] <DanaG> http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/asus-nx90jq-hands-on-dual-touchpads-unite/ -- ooh, perfect for multi-pointer X.
[02:47] <MTecknology> !info openbox
[02:47] <MTecknology> tap tap
[02:48] <MTecknology> how do I check the version of an app?
[02:49] <MTecknology> oh :(
[02:49] <MTecknology> I just saw it download; it's installing openbox 3.4.8 instead of 3.4.9 :(
[02:57] <crimsun> openbox |    3.4.9-2 |      unstable | source, alpha, amd64, armel, hppa, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, sparc
[02:57] <crimsun> do you need a sync from sid?
[03:02] <DanaG> weird... my notify-osd is really, really, really tiny.
[03:02] <DanaG> Looks like size 2 font, whereas the rest of my desktop uses 8.5 point font.
[03:02] <DanaG> Okay, maybe it's 3 points.
[03:03] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/469508
[03:12] <DanaG> grr, gnome's zero-volume-is-exactly-the-same-as-mute behavior irks me to no end.
[03:12] <DanaG> Because zero volume should NOT assert the mute pin!
[03:13] <DanaG> Then again, KDE did something even weirder: every time it tried to play a sound, it actually deactivated the hardware-mute!
[03:13] <bjsnider> why not?
[03:13] <bjsnider> zero master volume is not equal to mute?
[03:14] <DanaG> In Windows, I can hold volume-down and hit zero-volume without the mute LED going orange.
[03:14] <DanaG> Some test case: press hardware mute.  Turn volume to zero.  Turn volume back up.  Card will unmute.
[03:14] <DanaG> In Windows, it will stay muted.
[03:15] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/332081
[03:15] <bjsnider> so you want to be able to adjust the volume while muted
[03:19] <DanaG> Interestingly enough, when Windows Media Center is open, then Windows does do the zero-asserts-mute thing.
[03:19] <bjsnider> here's another thing you can do on windows: get a severe virus infection
[03:19] <DanaG> Not if you're not a n00bcake.
[03:20] <DanaG> Or at least, it's harder.
[03:23] <DanaG> I also had the annoyance of my rfkill LED blinking on network activity, until I installed the compat-wireless stuff and set led_mode.
[03:25] <DanaG> *blue*orange*blue*orange*blue*orange*blue*orange*blue*orange*
[03:45] <DanaG> hmm, all that new GTK alpha stuff... will that mean we can use alpha-transparent wallpapers and have them actually work (and show the underlying stuff through compositing)?
[03:47] <bjsnider> sure
[04:02] <DanaG> Oh, and I found a wallpaper that looks nice with the latest Human theme in the repos (still same as Karmic?).
[04:02] <DanaG> Now we just need gnome-appearance-properties to offer the Alpha channel setting.  =þ
[04:09] <bjsnider> those types of features will be worked into future mutter versions
[04:19] <DanaG> Mutter?  What does Mutter have to do with it?
[04:20] <DanaG> All we need is the option to choose R,G,B,A in gnome desktop settings thingy, instead of just R,G,B.
[04:20] <DanaG> ... and have it do the same for loaded png images, and such -- keep the alpha channel.
[04:21] <DanaG> I'm curious about this "client-decorated windows" thing, though.
[04:21] <DanaG> Interesting use case for the alpha stuff: compiz cube, with wallpaper being an image of a window or a door, with transparent inside.
[04:21] <DanaG> So, if you look through the window or door, you see the other virtual desktops.
[04:47] <colombofish> I have recently installed ubuntu 9.10 karmic version. Its fast and every things work. I want to setup my WIFI. The GUI is not helping me to setup. Can anyone help Please?
[04:53] <bjsnider> colombofish, not in this channel. go to #ubuntu
[05:24] <DanaG> oh, and I wish eog had alpha channel support.
[05:24] <DanaG> That is, alpha in the image would make it REALLY transparent.
[05:30] <bjsnider> DanaG is all about the desktop bling
[05:30] <DanaG> Actually, that could be useful.
[05:30] <DanaG> Bling for bling's sake is silly if overdone... but used correctly, effects can be nice.
[05:31] <DanaG> I'd love to be able to preview images with transparent parts actually being transparent.
[05:31] <bjsnider> oh, so you think compiz is silly?
[05:31] <DanaG> No, but "burn", specifically, is.
[05:31] <bjsnider> and the stupid water effects?
[05:31] <DanaG> They're amusing to play with, but I don't use the ripple notification -- too distracting.
[05:32] <DanaG> I use Lamp for min/unmin, Dream for open, and Sidekick for close.
[05:32] <DanaG> and menus use Vacuum.
[05:32] <DanaG> So it's like the mouse cursor "slurps" up the menus.
[05:32] <DanaG> And I have the times short... 250 ms or less.
[05:33] <bjsnider> i hope the gnome-devs don't bother with any of that on gnome-shell
[05:33] <DanaG> Why?  Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be possible.
[05:34] <DanaG> I don't like anchovies.... does that mean pizza makers should stop offering anchovies?
[05:34] <DanaG> Not the best analogy, but, eh.
[05:34] <bjsnider> because other than close, none of the things exist anymore
[05:35] <bjsnider> well, i guess menus still do
[05:35] <DanaG> As it is right now, when the animations for close and minimize were exactly the same..... that's bad.
[05:35] <bjsnider> in individual programs
[05:35] <DanaG> And the open animation sucked last time I tried it.
[05:35] <DanaG> With my compiz settings, my desktop feels snazzy, but not stupid.
[05:37] <bjsnider> compiz has too many options, too many plugins, too many things that can be turned on/off
[05:54] <DanaG> I'd agree with that, actually.
[05:54] <DanaG> Same thing with qtcurve.... options paralysis.
[05:54] <DanaG> ... but that's even worse.
[05:54] <DanaG> Actually, most of my settings could even be done with simple-ccsm.
[05:55] <bjsnider> i like simple-ccsm
[05:55] <DanaG> I did have to change window-types a bit.... group dialog with regular-window, and popup and dropdown and such menus together.
[05:55] <bjsnider> but i'm sure the fact that the options and plugins exist at all is cause for hte code to overly large/slow/complex
[05:55] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Dana_Compiz.profile
[05:56] <DanaG> weird... I hit super-w, and my whole desktop went transparent-ish.
[05:56] <DanaG> That's supposed to trigger water.
[05:57] <DanaG> Time to disable water, then.
[05:57] <DanaG> hmm, and colorfilter isn't working.
[05:58] <DanaG> I have super-tab set to circle-switcher, and alt-tab is static switcher with animation speed set to be essentially instant.
[06:01] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-lucid-20100105-4.png
[06:01] <DanaG> hmm, boot has gotten a bit cleaner now.
[06:02] <DanaG> But, is ureadahead supposed to run TWICE?
[10:29] <Guest51408> hi all
[10:30] <Guest51408> I get an unsatisfied dipendence
[10:30] <Guest51408> k3b: Dipende: k3b-data (= 1.68.0~alpha3-0ubuntu1) ma 1.69.0~alpha4-1ubuntu2 è installato
[10:30] <Guest51408> can I force it?
[10:35] <BUGabundo_work> morning
[10:51] <Adys> Xorg segfaulting on startup with nvidia official drivers =/ known bug?
[10:51] <BUGabundo_work> dont use nvidia site drivers :p
[10:51] <BUGabundo_work> keep with repos or X team PPA
[10:52] <Adys> mm fair enough
[10:52] <Adys> the repo ones are quite old though
[10:52] <Adys> 18x
[10:52] <Adys> I'm running 195.30
[10:53] <Adys> Synaptic also crashing on startup, Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.19.2/gtk/gtkrbtree.c:1098:_gtk_rbtree_find_offset: assertion failed: (tree)
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> Adys: as i said: PPA
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> it has 195
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> but : why do u need 195??
[10:55] <BUGabundo_work> does it fix any serious bug u have?
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> 185 is stable and works well enough for me
[10:56] <Adys> because its miles better than 18x branch, fps-wise in games
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> ah.. i dont play games..
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> plus it needs a bump for the new X
[10:56] <Adys> whats the ppa again? xorg-edgers?
[10:58] <yofel> Guest51408: that should have been resolved with -1ubuntu3. Did you run apt-get update before?
[10:58] <yofel> morning BUGabundo_work
[10:59] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: and 195 has a lot of performance improvements (especially noticable in kwin)
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> ahh
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> ok i guess i'll get it from bjsnider  PPA
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> why the heck aint archive updated yet?
[11:00] <yofel> no idea, doesn't at least edgers have 190?
[11:00]  * BUGabundo_work pulls our fiendly italian X dev ears
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: 195 i think
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> but x edgers doesnt work with X 1.5
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> or at least didnt last time i tried
[11:00] <yofel> hm, well, I'm using bjsniders ppa anyway
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> have  to ask sarvat for an update
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> oh cool
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> i'll update tonigh
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> (and brake my system a 3rd time)
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> need a quick test
[11:01]  * BUGabundo_work loves to find GNU tools bugs
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> create a dir and sub dir
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> symlink to the sub dir from top level
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> enter the link with cd
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> rm ../somefile
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> result: FAIL
[11:02] <yofel> oh yeah, that's broken
[11:02] <yofel> noticed that too awhile ago
[11:02] <yofel> forgot about it...
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> wanna file it?
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> i'll push upstream
[11:02] <yofel> I  have /tmp symlinked to $HOME/tmp
[11:02] <BUGabundo_work> and add to my GNU bug list :D
[11:04] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: do you know what is broken to cause that?
[11:04] <BUGabundo_work> i have a friend here thats says he knows
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> waiting for him to have a few free min to explain
[11:05] <yofel> since it doesn't matter if I use ls cd rm or whatever
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> wait
[11:05] <yofel> only pwd doesn't seem broken
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> all of them break!?
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:05] <BUGabundo_work> ext4 bug?
[11:05] <yofel> ah wait
[11:06] <yofel> s/cd/cp
[11:07] <yofel> 'ls ..' shows the wrong dir
[11:08] <yofel> bash completion on 'rm ../somethin' works, but rm says no such file or dir
[11:08] <yofel> cp too
[11:08] <yofel> mv too
[11:08] <Adys> how do I disable the auto-resizing of maximized windows when I move them? its extremely annoying
[11:09] <Adys> (kwin)
[11:09] <yofel> actually almost everything that accesses the FS: stat, file, chmod, ...
[11:11] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: can u test it on another FS ?
[11:12] <yofel> if I had any...
[11:12] <yofel> ah wait
[11:12] <yofel> I do have a btrfs test-fs on my server
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> 180 ppl in here and no one to test it
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> i can try it on debian and ext3
[11:14] <BUGabundo_work> $ mkdir -p 1/2/3
[11:15] <BUGabundo_work> $ ll ../.. total 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 mainroad mainroad 4096 Jan  6 11:14 2
[11:15] <yofel> nope, doesn't matter if it's btrfs, tmpfs, linked over different FS
[11:15] <BUGabundo_work> $ touch /tmp/1/2/foo
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> $ rm ../foo
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> $ ls /tmp/1/2/ 3
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> the darn thing removed foo, but autocmplete showed /tmp
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> FAIL
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> so autocomplete bash bug ?
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> + pwd
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> or every other tool?
[11:18] <yofel> no idea, I would have to know how its supposed  to work for that
[11:20] <ripps> Are we going to see kernel 2.6.33 in Lucid? Or are we waiting until it matures a little before testing the waters
[11:20] <Trewas> BUGabundo_work: looks like bash feature, tcsh works differently
[11:20] <BUGabundo_work> ripps: no idea
[11:21] <BUGabundo_work> ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[11:21] <BUGabundo_work> Trewas: then is a bash-autocomplete bug
[11:21] <yofel> yep, could be a bash bug, there is a 'pwd' builtin command
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> can someone file it please, and sub me to it
[11:26] <yofel> lemme test it in a vm with bash3 first
[11:32] <yofel> heh, same in my hardy VM
[11:32] <yofel> bash 'pwd' != /bin/pwd
[11:32] <yofel> nice 'feature'
[11:34] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:34] <BUGabundo_work> $ /bin/pwd /tmp/1/2/3
[11:36] <BUGabundo_work> so lets trace $ pwd
[11:36] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[11:56] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: bug 503761
[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: thanks. confirmed and subed
[12:00]  * BUGabundo_work wonders if he is subbed to the n2n/TUN bug 
[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> cwillu_at_work: did u progress anything more on the TUN bug?
[12:05] <tgpraveen12> !info evince
[12:31] <yofel> BUGabundo_lunch: heh, found debian 538891 just now
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> yofel: cool. i forgot to look it up
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> since i can reproduce here too
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> with latest unstable
[13:10] <BUGabundo_work> have u linked them on LP?
[13:10] <yofel> BUGabundo_work: I linked both bugs
[13:11] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[13:11] <BUGabundo_work> i was just going to do it
[13:11] <BUGabundo_work> didnt show up here
[13:12] <BUGabundo_work> thanks, once again
[13:16] <cwillu_at_work> poke?
[13:17] <cwillu_at_work> re tun, no, I've been having fun with neon code on armel
[13:18] <BUGabundo_work> weeeehh
[13:21] <bmm> Hi. I've installed CompizConfig settings manager in Lucid but the Shadow Windows option in the Decorator plugin does not seem to have any effect. Is that a bug or intentional?
[13:33] <bmm> I've just updated and I'm going to try to log in again, if that fails, I'm filing a bug. Cya!
[13:52] <bmm> I've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/503797 and the problem will be dealt with there. Greets!
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> bmm: ping Amaranth_
[14:44] <bmm> I hate it when I decide to sink more time into a bug and then solve it myself, makes for an ugly online read :) But https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/503797 has now been closed. Thanks BUGabundo_work and Amaranth_ !
[14:49] <BUGabundo_work> bmm: as long as it is working for u :P
[14:50] <bmm> I mis-understood the option, the implementation and the description are not in sync. If I encounter that same thing in the C++ rewrite, I'll file another bug, but then titled "the description is wrong" ;)
[14:51] <Hew> anyone else have a problem with synaptic not working?
[14:51] <bmm> Hew: I have not upgraded yet, what is the command line output? Sounds scary :?
[14:52] <Hew> there's no output, it's very strange
[14:52] <Hew> well if I use gksu there is no output
[14:52] <Hew> if I run it as user:
[14:52] <Hew> Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.19.2/gtk/gtkrbtree.c:1098:_gtk_rbtree_find_offset: assertion failed: (tree)
[14:52] <Hew> Aborted
[14:53] <Hew> which now looks like bug 503781
[14:54] <BUGabundo_work> Hew: trying now
[14:54] <BUGabundo_work> $ synaptic ** Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.19.2/gtk/gtkrbtree.c:1098:_gtk_rbtree_find_offset: assertion failed: (tree) Aborted
[14:57] <Hew> might already be fixed, bug 503576
[14:58] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:02] <ripps> Does anybody know of any good tools to downscale and convert 720p mkv's into a standard definition movie dvd?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ripps ffmpeg might do it or mencoder
[15:03] <Hew> ripps, devede is a good all-in-one program for creating video DVDs
[15:04] <cwillu_at_work> anybody remember any of the quoting issues with completion in bash 4?
[15:05] <tobylane> by movie dvd, do you mean divx/xvid?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ripps, handbrake is another if you like guis ...slow but effective
[15:06] <ripps> tobylane: lane I mean a standard video dvd, so mpeg2 I assume
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ripps, I just ripped a dvd to mpg with handbrake , it has lots of decode/encode options ..I must admit it was my first time trying it due to dvd encoding wasn't being recognized by ffmpeg , very unusual
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> arent we promoting pitivi for lucid cycle?
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> so stop using everything else and burn try that new app
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> file ALL bugs
[15:39] <acicula> a real poroper editor?
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> in a cycle or two, sure
[15:43] <acicula> cool, all i know linux didnt had much in the sense of movie editors so far
[15:45] <BUGabundo_work> acicula: please try it
[15:47] <joaopinto> video editing is not my area, but LiVES is also popular
[15:48] <joaopinto> if you don't use the official package which is broken :P
[15:49] <acicula> seems the karmic version is also .13.3
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> joaopinto: let me guess: getdeb downloads? :p
[15:52] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_work, yup, we work around a problem related to dpkg, the package on ubuntu comes directly from debian, it works fine on debian but not on Ubuntu due to different default flags for dpkg
[15:55] <BUGabundo_work> LOL
[15:55] <BUGabundo_work> bug filed?
[15:55] <BUGabundo_work> patch submited?
[15:56] <joaopinto> bug filed, no patch submited, software author getting mad
[15:57] <BUGabundo_work> User question of the day: "how can i tweak Ubuntu to support easy passwords like User:User?"  LOL reply : $ sudo passwd user http://twitter.com/marcopinheiro/status/7444439338
[15:57] <BUGabundo_work> joaopinto: mad?
[15:57] <joaopinto> yes, because his application his broken by default on Ubuntu, it get's a lot of complains from users, and he didn't got any help on the fix which is not software related, it's package built related
[16:05] <BUGabundo_work> ahh
[16:10] <BluesKaj> strange happenenings, when I call up a file like /etc/fstab in kate it shows blank if I use kdesudo kate with the run command box , but if i call it up with sudo nano in the terminal it's all there . Also id I just use the run command without sudo then kate shows all the text/data ....any ideas what could be causing this ?
[16:11] <yofel> lemme try...
[16:14] <yofel> BluesKaj: WFM
[16:16] <BluesKaj> yofel, WFM?
[16:16] <yofel> works for me
[16:16] <yofel> either running 'kdesudo kate /etc/fstab' or 'kdesudo kate' and opening the file later both work fine
[16:19] <BluesKaj> yofel, works with konqueror but not kate ...very strange. Another thing , if click on properties on a large file such as a 5G video , it takes almost 30 secs before the properties dialog comes up
[16:22] <yofel> BluesKaj: seems to me like it reads the whole file before opening the properties window
[16:22] <yofel> tired it with a cd iso, now my NFS mount is stuck until the window opens...
[16:23] <yofel> *tried
[16:29] <BluesKaj> yofel, are you getting this when opening some files ? "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly"
[16:34] <yofel> BluesKaj: not yet, any specific file type?
[16:42]  * BUGabundo_work points guilt finger to apparmor
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work> BluesKaj: time to run a debsum ?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> yofel, yeah text or bash files using kate , using gksudo kate path/to/file works in place of kdesudo
[16:44] <arand> Is the evolution-documentation-en package supposed to go? As suggested by full-upgrade.
[16:46] <BUGabundo_work> arand: come on... dont fo full upgrades like that
[16:46] <BUGabundo_work> arand: $ sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[16:47] <arand> Have done but this specific thing has remained like this for a couple of weeks now...
[16:48] <arand> the evolution set of packages are being held back since they want to remove that package...
[16:53] <Crashbit> mm
[16:54] <Crashbit> my aptitude fails today
[16:54] <Crashbit> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main libc6-i386 2.11~20100104-0ubuntu1 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[16:57] <arand> Crashbit: try other server, try apt-get..?
[17:03] <Crashbit> o mm, apt-get works fine
[17:18] <SwedeMike> nice, Xorg works again on my nvidia-machine for the first time in a month
[17:24] <BluesKaj> SwedeMike, xorg isn't really necessary with the new kernel modules , it vcan help in some situations but there is no default xorg.conf file
[17:26] <SwedeMike> BluesKaj: hm, let me rephrase. X is working again, before it wouldn't start at all, it crashed (I don't remember if it was SIGSEGV or if it was some other signal when it crashed)
[17:26] <SwedeMike> so it didn't even revert to the low-res fail-safe
[17:27] <BluesKaj> I see , I've neen getting some strange unpredictable logins like dropping to a TTY and having to startx etc
[17:29] <SwedeMike> well, I'm not using it much, this is on a test machine I have that I boot once a week or so
[17:48] <alex_mayorga> when I do "lspci" I get "Bus error" is that a bug, faulty hardware or both?
[17:52] <arand> alex_mayorga: works on this side, no idea if bug/hw-err.
[18:10] <tgpraveen12> !info gnome-shell
[18:14] <alex_mayorga> arand: thanks
[18:14] <alex_mayorga> any other ideas?
[18:16] <yofel> alex_mayorga: 'Bus error' is all that it says?
[18:16] <yofel> maybe run 'strace lspci' and see where it errors out
[18:18] <alex_mayorga> yofel, that's all, trying your command right now
[18:49] <oorah> i tried out the xubuntu daily live and something weird is up with the panels
[18:49] <oorah> they're very unusable looking
[18:49] <oorah> they're bigger and the open applications are not shown at the bottomm panel which seems useless
[18:50] <oorah> anyone here?
[18:53] <rr72> people are here
[18:53] <rr72> :-P
[18:55] <alex_mayorga> yofel: that tells a bit more
[18:55] <alex_mayorga> !paste
[18:55] <oorah> there is a bug with the panels in xfce
[18:55] <oorah> they have window borders and the bottom panel is useless
[18:56] <oorah> the open applications are not included into the bottom panel
[18:56] <alex_mayorga> this is my lspci bug/error can somebody, please take a look http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4ad7b529
[18:57] <oorah> i know almost nothing about scripts sorry
[18:58] <yofel> alex_mayorga: err... interesting ^^
[18:58] <oorah> is kde getting any faster or is it still slow?
[18:58] <yofel> I'm clueless
[18:58] <oorah> i like the look of kde but hate the performance
[19:01] <alex_mayorga> yofel: thanks, I guess I file a bug, right?
[19:02] <yofel> hm..
[19:03] <yofel> can you run 'debsums pciutils' first?
[19:03] <afv> hi. my suspend (resume?) is broken. trying to resume i get only a gray screen. it was working fine with jaunty/karmic and at lucid's pre-alpha.
[19:03] <yofel> alex_mayorga: just to make sure that the binary isn't corrupt
[19:03] <afv> nvidia, 195.30
[19:04] <afv> i can only go to a tty (still with a gray screen) after doing a SysRq+R and the Ctrl+Alt+..
[19:05] <alex_mayorga> yofel: debsums: can't check pciutils file /usr/bin/lspci (Reading from filehandle failed)
[19:05] <alex_mayorga> I guess is the faulty HD on this laptop
[19:05] <afv> can anybody help me debugging it?
[19:05] <yofel> alex_mayorga: could be, but run a fsck first
[19:06] <alex_mayorga> just that command?
[19:07] <yofel> alex_mayorga: moment please
[19:08] <yofel> alex_mayorga: 'sudo touch /forcefsck' should check the / FS on reboot
[19:08] <yofel> afv: hm, can you actually do something in the ttys?
[19:09] <afv> yes, but i can't see it
[19:09] <alex_mayorga> yofel. thanks I'll confirm next time I reboot
[19:09] <yofel> how do you know then that you're on a tty?
[19:09] <afv> because i do login and do a sudo reboot now :p
[19:09] <yofel> alex_mayorga: ok :)
[19:09] <afv> and watch the disk activity when logging in too.. lol
[19:09] <yofel> afv: ah ok ^^
[19:10] <yofel> that should be a X crash then
[19:11] <yofel> afv: since 195.30 is the beta driver afaik you should run the nvidia-bug-report.sh script and report the bug to nvidia
[19:12] <afv> hmm, but it is happening with older versions too
[19:13] <yofel> really? hm... do  you find anything useful in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old?
[19:13] <afv> i'll take a look. just a sec
[19:34] <rr72> update gnome cache fail for anyone besides me?
[19:40] <wind-rider> hi
[19:40] <wind-rider> does anybody know how to change wacom settings in lucid?
[19:40] <wind-rider> there is no Xorg.conf anymore to edit
[19:41] <wind-rider> I'd like to set my mouse to relative mode
[19:42] <rr72> is launchpad down?
[19:42] <rr72> i can't seem to file a bug report
[19:53] <geser> does lucid have currently problems with locales?
[19:59] <afv> back. yofel, there's nothing special at xorg's log
[20:02] <afv> http://pastebin.com/d2ea69b61
[20:29] <gspr_> Anyone have any experience getting radeonhd with kms up and running (kernel 2.6.33)?
[20:30] <gspr_> Without passing radeon.modeset=1 to the kernel, everything is working fine, except for KMS, which I'd really like (for vblank).
[20:30] <gspr_> I'm using 2.6.33-rc3 from mainline, plus radeonhd and libdrm for the xorg-edgers PPA
[20:31] <gspr_> The R600_rlc.bin R700_rlc.bin firmware files are in place.
[20:32] <gspr_> Whenever I boot with radeon.modeset=1 (or add radeon modeset=1 to /etc/modules), I just get a solid black or white screen when X starts. Hitting control alt f1 refreshes a black screen, and I can press control alt delete to reboot, indicating that things are not hung
[21:05] <yoasif_> is there a specific channel i should go into with requests for packaging of new perl modules? or should i just submit bugs to debian
[21:54] <puchat3k> hi i'd like to help out and submit bugs, but i'm not advanced enough to deal with major "system breaking" bugs. i have expierience with past ubuntu alpha releases and up until now i hadn't had any major problems. at the moment is lucid fairly stable and good to start playing around with?
[22:02] <BUGabundo> hey gyus
[22:02] <RAOF> puchat3k: Fairly?  I'm not aware of any system-eating bugs at the moment, but the day is still young!
[22:02] <BUGabundo> gonna be a bit OT, so please bare with me.
[22:02] <BUGabundo> I got this
[22:02] <BUGabundo> gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! video/x-raw-rgb ! pngenc compression-level=9 ! filesink location=foo.png
[22:03] <BUGabundo> but I need the equivalent to save as JPG
[22:03] <BUGabundo> help wanted :D thanks in advance
[22:03] <RAOF> BUGabundo: You know, there's #gstreamer on this very network :).  Anyway... you want to grab just a single image from your v4l2src?
[22:03] <BUGabundo> yep
[22:04] <BUGabundo> pics hourly
[22:04] <RAOF> jpegenc doesn't work?
[22:04]  * BUGabundo heads to #gstreamer
[22:04] <BUGabundo> RAOF: WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "jpgenc"
[22:04] <BUGabundo> le me swap jpg for jpeg
[22:04] <BUGabundo> WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no property "compression-level" in element "jpegenc0"
[22:04] <RAOF> jpeg:  jpegenc: JPEG image encoder
[22:05] <RAOF> BUGabundo: gst-inspect jpegenc
[22:05] <RAOF> You're probably after “quality"
[22:06] <BUGabundo> RAOF: jpegenc quality=9 ?
[22:06] <puchat3k> RAOF, hey, thanks i'm downloading an image know, i'll try it out in virtualbox for a couple of days and then maybe try to install it on one of my boxes, thanks for the info :-)
[22:06] <BUGabundo> or 85 % ?
[22:07] <RAOF> BUGabundo: Given gst-inspect says quality goes from 0-100, with a default of 85, I'd suggest that quality 9 is probably pretty crap.
[22:07] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:07] <BUGabundo> ill try 85
[22:07] <RAOF> You don't actually need to set that unless you want to be explicit; the default is 85.
[22:08] <BUGabundo> $ gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! video/x-raw-rgb ! jpegenc quality=85 ! filesink location=hour.jpg
[22:08] <BUGabundo> WARNING: erroneous pipeline: could not link videoscale0 to jpegenc0
[22:10] <RAOF> We're both looking at http://pastebin.ca/1740727 , right?
[22:10] <BUGabundo> that doesn't do it RAOF
[22:10] <BUGabundo> nor the tip I got at #gtreamer
[22:10] <BUGabundo> gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! jpegenc ! filesink location=foo.jpg
[22:11] <BUGabundo> it just gets stuck
[22:11] <RAOF> Notice the SINK specification there - in the “capabilities" line it says “video/raw-x-yuv", but you're trying to feed it x-raw-rgb.
[22:27] <douglasawh-work> am I missing something with not being able to do full disk encryption off the life CD...it looks like the download from LP is 501.7 KB
[22:27] <douglasawh-work> https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs
[22:28] <BUGabundo> hey douglasawh
[22:28] <douglasawh-work> BUGabundo: sup
[22:28] <BUGabundo> having fun
[22:28] <BUGabundo> hacking away my webcam
[22:28] <BUGabundo> to do daily photos of me :D
[22:28] <douglasawh-work> life == live  ^^
[22:28] <douglasawh-work> good stuff
[22:29] <douglasawh-work> I was hoping this would be changed in Lucid, but it's not in the alpha 1 installer :(
[22:30] <BUGabundo> having a fight with crontab
[22:39] <douglasawh-work> is their a ubiquity IRC channel?
[23:36] <douglasawh-work> does it matter that grub is .97 and grub-common is 1.97?
[23:36] <douglasawh-work> and what's the deal with the .97 naming convention?
[23:40]  * Crashbit pira pal sobre
[23:49] <RAOF> douglasawh-work: That's where grub upstream wants to say “This is (still) beta".